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Speaker 1: Smell off now, lady. Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia.

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Speaker 2: The Metater podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hosts Yannis cal Brody length fifty to seventy minutes. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm reading from a script here. If you

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Speaker 1: can't sell, hold on, let me start it again. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to me Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time

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Speaker 1: on September twenty sixth, and we're live from Meat Eater

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Speaker 1: Headquarters World Headquarters here in Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host today,

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Speaker 1: Yannis Ptellus, and I'm joined by Brody Henderson and Ryan Callahan.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, we'll recap a recent move elk and

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Speaker 1: deer hunt. Then we'll talk to BHA President Patrick Berry

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Speaker 1: about a concerning public lands lawsuit. After that, we'll look

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Speaker 1: at a hunting tattoo that was performed by a man

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Speaker 1: who was high on meth, followed by one minute fishing

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Speaker 1: with the one and only my dad, Papa Yannis. Then

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Speaker 1: we've got a hot tip off where Stephen Ranella is

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Speaker 1: guaranteed to lose. Think about that one. Followed by an

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Speaker 1: interview with Wyatt Seep who's currently logging my Wisconsin deer property.

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Speaker 1: And finally Phil will school us in some pop culture trivia.

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Speaker 1: But first let's hear from cal Cal. You're recently in

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Speaker 1: Wyoming hunting deer and elk. Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Actually I went down the Thursday before Labor Day weekend.

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Speaker 3: Buddy mine had a unit sixty one tag or still

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Speaker 3: he just took off on the hunt yesterday, and so

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Speaker 3: I went down there and helped him scout very wilderness

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Speaker 3: based hunting them zorcas, and so wrote around with him,

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Speaker 3: checked a bunch of stuff out, saw antelope at ten

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Speaker 3: four hundred feet, which was a highlight, a bunch of

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Speaker 3: super cool country there. And then yeah, kind of fortunately,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately I drew an elk and a deer tag in Wyoming,

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Speaker 3: which is not the way I had wanted it to be.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's definitely too much of a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, hiked her butts off, had pack lamas,

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Speaker 3: which was super fun characters to have in camp, And.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how'd that go? How would you rate your overall

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Speaker 1: um experience?

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Speaker 3: You know, we had one character with us who's just

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Speaker 3: not much of a pack animal enthusiast. And as long

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Speaker 3: as I can human a human, and as long as

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Speaker 3: I could keep that human away from the pack animals,

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Speaker 3: things went great, Things went great. But you know, he's

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Speaker 3: like the type of dude who like grabs the lead

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Speaker 3: rope and pulls it around with him, and he's like

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Speaker 3: the goddamn loma won't sit still, you know, and you're like,

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Speaker 3: well you you literally just told it to follow year round.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise good though, otherwise great, No stubborn Lama's no spitting.

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Speaker 3: No, Honestly, we had They're supposed to like their cruising

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Speaker 3: speeds like two miles an hour, right, and I mean

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Speaker 3: one day, and they crushed it. They were a little

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Speaker 3: like a very steep headwall, and they weren't real jazzed

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, you're telling me before the show

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Speaker 1: started you had a little encounter with another hunter. What

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, unfortunately, I had many, many, many

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Speaker 3: region H, and the human hunter density was just insane.

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Speaker 3: very low potential, and no people then yeah, so I

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Speaker 3: Garrett Smith was film on with me and he's like

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Speaker 3: see two hunters actively hunting that ridge. What do you do?

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Speaker 1: They're like out ahead on the ridge like sort of

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Speaker 1: You could just turn around, but that'd be tough because

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Speaker 1: But you know, obviously give them, you know, first choice

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Speaker 4: You know, I would probably like, I'm assuming this is

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Speaker 4: like you're hunting one draw. It's like you're hunting a

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Speaker 3: The unfortunately, like the biggest stories that I have out

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Speaker 3: That was horrible. There was Yeah, just just like glassing

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Speaker 1: Did you too bad? I guess you're not sounded like

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Speaker 3: I did find one big giant buck, as Doug Durream

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Speaker 3: the really good story of human encounter where I'm in

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Speaker 3: then I'm gonna kill this thing. So for over a mile,

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Speaker 3: I stay on this Bucks track and you know, you

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Speaker 3: good morning. I just tracked this huge buck into this

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Speaker 3: laying any claim to this thing, but somebody should kill it.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be me, but you're nobody's gonna

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that like restored my faith in humanity

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Speaker 1: So it's nice to end on a high note.

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Speaker 3: Yep, for sure, Brody, you were in.

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Speaker 1: Alaska while Col's in Wyoming.

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Speaker 4: I got the invite from Steve to do my dream hunt,

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Speaker 4: which is a bull moose in Alaska.

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Speaker 1: So was that You're like, seriously, you're dream like your

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Speaker 1: top bucket list hunt.

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Speaker 4: The very top.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool, that's all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So yeah, we went and did the hunt that

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Speaker 4: he's done with your dad with Clay a couple of times,

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Speaker 4: went to the same area that he killed his big

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Speaker 4: bull last year. There we do what's called a ridge

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Speaker 4: top hunt, where there's different ways to hunt bulls in Alaska.

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Speaker 4: You can float a river one hundred miles of river

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Speaker 4: We do what's called the ridgetop hunt, where you fly

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Speaker 4: you're you're stuck basically, and you know, we've heard some

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's like bad hunting tactics because you're late,

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Speaker 4: Down, and you're just never going to find the thing,

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Speaker 4: Like you get down in that thick shit and you're

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Speaker 4: never gonna find them, right, So it's you just got

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Speaker 4: to bring them to you. Uh So we flew in.

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Speaker 4: Can't hunt the first day because you you fly that day.

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Speaker 4: Three days I saw three cow moose, no bulls. The

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Speaker 4: Steve was very bummed that his brother Danny wasn't there

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Speaker 4: because he could have killed that bear. But about mid

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Speaker 4: morning of day four, I kind of moved away from

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Speaker 4: and like, holy shit, there's a bull. And he was

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Speaker 4: mile away, but he was already. You just tell he

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Speaker 4: was walking, thrashing brush, walking, thrashing brush, ran over to

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Speaker 4: where Steve and our buddy Matt Cook were sitting, like

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Speaker 4: there's a bull, and then it was just kind of

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Speaker 4: a way from there. We called. He kept coming. He

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Speaker 4: reappeared maybe eight hundred yards away, and at that point

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Speaker 4: it was like he's definitely coming. So like I got

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Speaker 4: set up for the shot and all that, and and

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Speaker 4: the idea is you're gonna call him right into your lap, right,

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Speaker 4: They're just gonna.

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Speaker 3: You guys draw straws as to who is, Like, how'd

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Speaker 4: It was all brush.

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Speaker 4: The meat was still in the brush, but we had

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Speaker 2: We just took a.

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Speaker 4: But it was, it was awesome.

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Speaker 4: It's in no way boring or was it psychologically challenging

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Speaker 4: Four cows and two bulls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said it before, I'll say it again.

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Speaker 1: Everybody thinks Alaska is like the land of plenty, and

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Speaker 4: It was cool leaving camp. You've been with those pile

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Speaker 1: You'll see it is that it right in the beginning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he cleared that entire area like a bulldozer and

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Speaker 1: Swat that fly right out of the sky.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and obviously like really big Barry's got a gut

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got it all. Did you? Did Phil

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Speaker 1: for Brody, but we got to get to Patrick Barry,

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Speaker 1: who's joining us on the line now. He's the president

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Speaker 1: and CEO of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and he's here

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Speaker 1: that's been filed with the US Supreme Court. Patrick, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Although I got to tell you that's a tough fact

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Speaker 1: we're talking about villains and possibly fees now right, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I guess the way I would frame it

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Speaker 7: I think anybody out there who cares about that would

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Speaker 3: So what's happening in Utah? Patrick?

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Speaker 7: So the there's a long history in the state of

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Speaker 7: a half million acres of land within the state of Utah.

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Speaker 7: But the implications are go well beyond that. So if

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Speaker 7: where there's federally on public land.

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Speaker 3: What do you think the intent is, Like, why is

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Speaker 7: Well, there's a there's a big distinction here, I think

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Speaker 2: And what actually is going to happen. I mean, if

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Speaker 7: The way they talk about it, they say, you know,

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Speaker 7: it's land by owned by every American. That's part of

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Speaker 7: in the best interest for Utah and we'll keep that

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Speaker 7: and they would have no choice but to sell it off,

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Speaker 7: as they've done with other land owned.

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Speaker 2: By the State of Utah.

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Speaker 7: They were they were granted at the time of statehood

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Speaker 3: Intention, and is isn't the lawsuit doesn't lawsuit itself use

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Speaker 7: They do, And that's a really good point, cal because

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Speaker 7: You know, he introduced a bill it's pretty clear to

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Speaker 7: they're questioning if you look at the lawsuit, they question

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Speaker 7: we did. But the clauses in the Constitution that give

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Speaker 2: It's incredibly broad.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't specifically say BLM or US for Service

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Speaker 7: They'll claim it's about a specific type of BLM land.

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Speaker 7: But when you question in the constitutionality of whether the

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Speaker 7: they can own any kind of land under that congressional clause.

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Speaker 7: So all six hundred and forty million acres of federally

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Speaker 7: why I you know, I said at the at the

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Speaker 7: you should pay attention to what's happening in Utah.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Patrick, what is it about Utah?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 4: Like, why does this stuff continually pop up in Utah?

437
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 4: You've got you know, other conservative states like Wyoming with

438
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 4: tons of federal public land where this doesn't seem to

439
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 4: be as much of an issue.

440
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 7: Well, it's an issue in Wyoming, for sure, but you know, uh,

441
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 7: there's Look, there's a long some of this has to

442
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 7: do with a long history of battles with the federal

443
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 7: government in general, and the you know, the easiest leverage

444
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 7: that I think they have in front of them is

445
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 7: the is a federal landish in Utah. And it is

446
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 7: also true that you know, seventy percent of the land

447
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 7: in Utah is is publicly owned land. But you know,

448
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 7: on one hand, they'll talk about the incredible value of

449
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 7: having all this land for recreational purposes and all the

450
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 7: economic activity and everything it brings, and then in the

451
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 7: very next sentence talk about how it's this huge disadvantage

452
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 7: and you know, the federal government should known this land

453
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 7: and Utah should have it. So it's it's just kind

454
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 7: of baked into the culture over time and these ongoing

455
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 7: battles with the federal government over a whole bunch of issues.

456
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 7: And you know, honestly, the craziest thing is how much

457
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 7: money the State of Utah has just pissed away on

458
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 7: a bunch of these legal actions trying to get control

459
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 7: over over federal public land. I mean, this current lawsuit

460
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 7: at a minimum, is going to cost, by their own acknowledgment,

461
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 7: fourteen million dollars of Utah taxpayer money. And man, they're

462
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 7: also spending a lot of money on billboards and advertising campaigns,

463
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 7: and not just in Utah, but but well.

464
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: Beyond the border.

465
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 7: So you know whatever that history is and why Utah,

466
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 7: you know, has a has a great with the federal government,

467
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 7: and why they've decided to take aim at the at

468
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 7: federal public ownership. I suppose you'd have to ask the

469
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 7: folks at Utah. But but the stakes are high and

470
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 7: it's cost them a lot of money to go down

471
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 7: this road, and if they don't prevail, man, that's another

472
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 7: big waist of taxpayer money.

473
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: Where's the best place to stay on top of this issue?

474
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: Just like so you can, you know, watch what's going on,

475
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: and then what should people do if there's any action

476
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: they can take right now?

477
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: That's a that's a great question.

478
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 7: I mean, listen, we're you know, we bha as you

479
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 7: guys know is you know, we we lead with inficacy

480
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 7: for protection of of public land and the opportunities that

481
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 7: provides for hunters and anglers, and we're going to do

482
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 7: everything we can to keep folks updated. I mean, you know,

483
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 7: we're not afraid to jump into fights whether we have

484
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 7: dedicated funding or not, because we know it's incredibly valuable.

485
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: So we're we'll do the best we.

486
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 7: Can on our own website to continue to provide updates.

487
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 7: Really happy to see a lot of other organizations in

488
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 7: our space or taken interest and and even frankly, organizations

489
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 7: that aren't connected to hunting and fishing but just outdoor

490
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 7: recreation in general, I think recognize the threat as well.

491
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 7: So folks can certainly get involved. I mean, frankly, I

492
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 7: would encourage folks to call Governor Spencer Cox's office directly

493
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 7: and tell them to drop the lawsuit that folks don't

494
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 7: support it. There is a building coalition if this ends

495
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 7: up at the Supreme Court decides that take this up

496
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 7: to UH to fight this on legal grounds and and frankly, guys,

497
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 7: that's going to require support from from folks who care

498
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 7: about public land and UH and the opportunities they provide.

499
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 7: So you know, stand formed through you know our website

500
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 7: backhuntry hunters dot org. Call the Governor's office h and

501
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 7: tell them to drop this you know BS lawsuit. Make

502
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 7: sure that you know you support all the organizations that

503
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 7: are digging in on this effort to UH so that

504
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 7: we can continue to fight this because out of you know,

505
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 7: all the federal land issues that have come up and

506
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 7: all these threats to public lands, this one has the

507
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 7: potential to have the farthest reaching implications, and uh, you know,

508
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 7: I think that'd be a concern to to everybody, uh

509
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 7: who who enjoys the same stuff we do.

510
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: All right, well, keep us up speed if you don't mind,

511
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: and appreciate your time today, Patrick.

512
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 7: Hey, thanks so much for you guys taking some few

513
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 7: minutes to cover this issue. It's it's pretty important stuff.

514
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 7: And you know, in the midst of all the great

515
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 7: stories that you guys are sharing to you gotta have

516
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 7: a little bit of uh, I guess, uh medicine with

517
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 7: with all.

518
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: The sugar, uh, you know, make sure that we got

519
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: places to go down the road.

520
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: That's right. We won't be able to tell any of

521
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: these fun stories that we have without public plans. So

522
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: thank you again. Now we're moving on to tattoos. I regret.

523
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 2: I've made a huge mistake.

524
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the whole thing. All ly say that

525
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: because some of the other little sound ups that you

526
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: made are a little bit lost.

527
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 8: That was the very first one I did for EPISP

528
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 8: for the pilot episode one, and since then I've kind

529
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 8: of gone off the rails with my with my weird out,

530
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 8: my my bea tier weird al covers, uh, which yeah, sorry,

531
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 8: I really enjoyed. No, that's great, Yeah, I missed weird

532
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 8: al Well, I've just been doing really bad parody songs

533
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 8: then changing the lyrics to to sound up these segments.

534
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: You used to have many weird Al cassette tapes.

535
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah nice, Oh yeah, weird Al Yankovic. Today's

536
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: regrettable tattoo comes from Evan Flowers. If you have a

537
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: hunting or fishing related tattoo that you regret, please email

538
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: us at radio at the meat Eater dot com. Says here,

539
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Phil then pulls up the picture of the tattoo. Here

540
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: we go. Can we zoom in a little bit? Phil slightly? Yeah?

541
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: All right. Kevin Evan writes in with these details, I

542
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: had envisioned a hunting sleeve when I was young. It

543
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: was going to be a full sleeve of a big

544
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: buck ducks, flying waterfall, bow hunter, all with the sun

545
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: setting in the background. What I got instead is just

546
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of quickly lies looked likehing that looked nothing

547
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: like what I pictured in my head. One of my

548
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: friends even says he can see a corn dog in

549
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: the mural, which I haven't found a corn dog yet,

550
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: but I'll keep looking. The tattoo was done in my

551
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: kitchen by a guy who kept nodding off during the

552
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: tattoo process. He did it in two eight hour appointments,

553
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: and I paid him twelve hundred dollars. While in my house,

554
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: he and his girlfriend ate all my food. Later I

555
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: found out he was on meth, had lost his tattoo shop,

556
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: and was only doing home appointments to make ends meet.

557
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Everything in my bones told me to kick him out,

558
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: but I was young and dumb, and now I'm stuck

559
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: with this on my right arm forever. Luckily, I've learned

560
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: to laugh it off as I've gotten older. Boys. What

561
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: do you think?

562
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 9: What are you guys seeing?

563
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: I mean, from this distance, it just looks like a tattoo.

564
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get like the lack of details hard to

565
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: like comment on.

566
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: But I did see his great big buck on there.

567
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not as bad as he thinks.

568
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, as far as bad tattoos go,

569
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 8: this this one isn't terrible. But the story behind it is,

570
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 8: I think, is the raw Yeah yeah, yeah.

571
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he didn't come away with like hepsi or

572
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: something like that, right.

573
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he didn't get it on his like wrapped

574
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: around his neck.

575
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: And even though you were young and dumb, you were

576
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: also you know, loyal to your tattoo artist.

577
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: Right, And you know there's a lot of morals, as

578
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: there always are in these stories. But uh, if you

579
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: are young and dumb and thinking about getting your first tattoo,

580
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: maybe don't start with the full sleeve and maybe just

581
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: like give it a year.

582
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 5: You know.

583
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: That's what I always tell everybody, Like, you want a tattoo,

584
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: think about it for an entire year. If you still

585
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: want to get that too, that tattoo, then go ahead

586
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: and get it.

587
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: You have a tatto.

588
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: You have a tattab one. Yeah, it's only maybe I

589
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: don't know, it's three or four inch, uh, like a

590
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: Latvian peg and son on my shoulder. I don't regret

591
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: it has meaning to me, but I know a lot

592
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: of people that do that have regrettable tattoos. Oh yeah,

593
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: they're not hunting and fishing related. So I like this

594
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: guy because his last sense is that he's like he's

595
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: learned to laugh it off, you know, so he's not

596
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: letting him get to him. Although his arm is covered

597
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: with ink from his shoulder to his wrist.

598
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

599
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, when my grandma passed away last year. A bunch

600
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 3: of the girls in the family m hm. I think,

601
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: fueled by grief and wine, went down got matching tattoos.

602
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: And like, what like a date her birthday or.

603
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: I don't and I think, oh, it's an orchid. Grandma

604
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: used to grow orchids. You know, it can be kind

605
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: of tricky to grow.

606
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was just like, yeah, this guy should

607
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: just be happy.

608
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: He didn't get some life threatening infection during this process for.

609
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: Sure, sepsis, and you know, if he's gonna go ahead

610
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: and just keep it sounds like he is. He's not

611
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: saying it. He hadn't said anything about removing it. He

612
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: could just have it touched up, like I mean, there's

613
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: all kinds of people that do work with existing tattoos,

614
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: and he still might be able to have this beautiful

615
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: scene that he once envisioned. He's probably gonna cost him

616
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: twenty four hundred. Now, yeah, thanks for sharing though, Oh yeah,

617
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: thanks Savin. All right, if you want to see, uh,

618
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: possibly see your tattoo. Oh no, you can see this

619
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: tattoo on our YouTube channels. If you're just listening and

620
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: our description of it wasn't enough for you, go to

621
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel and you can see the pictures of

622
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: it there. And uh again, if you have a regrettable

623
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: hunting and fishing tattoo, send it on over to radio

624
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: atthemeadeater dot com. All right, now, we're gonna do a

625
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: little listener feedback.

626
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 8: What you got, Phil, Yeah, we'll run a little long,

627
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 8: so let's just keep it short for this. But there

628
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 8: we're getting a lot of comments about those tomatoes on

629
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 8: the table, bru if you Yeah, I kind of want to.

630
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: Just I grow some damn good tomatoes, man.

631
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, people of them.

632
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 8: People want to want someone to take a bite out

633
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 8: of it.

634
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: We've got so many I can't keep up with them.

635
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now. This is the the Allerton

636
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: Valley is not like the gardener's friend.

637
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: It can be tough, man, But like every year, my

638
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: tomatoes just crush it.

639
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 4: And now I've got way too many, and I want

640
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: to share the wealth.

641
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: Well, man, he used to give me zucchinis when you

642
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: first moved to town.

643
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the first year.

644
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: So everyone can grow zucchinis. Yeah, but those are good

645
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: my fresh guards.

646
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: And my family doesn't either.

647
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: I switch to cucumbers. That's way better.

648
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: But what I still don't understand how come you can

649
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: produce this. Yeah, you go to any grocery store in

650
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: Montana or really in the West where I've lived in

651
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: the last twenty some years, you can't get anything that

652
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: kind of resembles the taste of this.

653
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think it's like that with most

654
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: commercially produced.

655
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: Our fruit system is completely broken. We're shipping these things

656
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: hundreds of miles, if not thousands.

657
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're picked when they're green, they're ripened artificially, like

658
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 4: it's just.

659
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it was so good. And currently in the

660
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 3: Gallatin Valley we're just plowing under fantastic farm ground.

661
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: For some of the richest soil in Montana.

662
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: Some of the richest soil in Montana. Had it not

663
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: been for that soil, there wouldn't be people here. But

664
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: here we are a crashing it.

665
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: Moving on.

666
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Thanks for the feedback. Those tomatoes are delicious. Brody grew them.

667
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: You can't get anything like it in a storm. Maybe

668
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: i'd have Farmers Market in North Carolina were tomatoes there, all.

669
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: Right, I'd get my left arm for blt out of

670
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: these things.

671
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 5: Right now.

672
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: Oh, buddy, I've eaten a couple uh from earlier this

673
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: summer that Broy's giving me belts. Yeah, I might go

674
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: home and make one.

675
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 5: All right.

676
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: Our next segment is one Minute Fishing.

677
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 5: Do I feel lucky?

678
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: We'll do you punk, go ahead, make my cast.

679
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Who saltry tones of tailor. One minute Fishing is where

680
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: we go live to someone who's fishing and they have

681
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: one minute to catch a fish and if they're successful,

682
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: we'll make a five hundred dollars donation to a conservation

683
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: group of their choice. I think usually right this week,

684
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: our angler is, like I said earlier, the one and

685
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: only my dad, Papaiannis, who's on Mud Lake in Michigan,

686
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: which I'll add Brody told me mud Lake is the

687
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: most common lake name in the United States at eight

688
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety seven mud lakes. My dad is fishing

689
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: for a donation to the National Wildlife Federation. Now, before

690
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: I introduced who you see on camera there right now,

691
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you how this all started

692
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: with my dad signing up for one minute Fishing. He

693
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: calls me out of the blue. He's not an angler.

694
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: Not an angler. Yeah, So last thing I expect is

695
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: that he's gonna call me and say, hey, man, I

696
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: can for sure catch a fish in one minute. I'm like,

697
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Oh yeah, right, the one

698
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: minute fishing segment. To me, I'm like, oh, you want

699
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: a little spotlight, you want to get in front of

700
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: the camera. All right, we can do this. So we

701
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody for this week. I figured, oh, we'll

702
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: give the old man a shot. As soon as I

703
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: told him he's in, he's like, all right, going down

704
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: to the store to buy a fishing rode. So that

705
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: tells you how much of an angler he is. We've

706
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: got my younger brother on the line right now. It

707
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: says poppy honest, but that's actually mating putellis and he

708
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: luckily he's in town golfing. According to my dad, what

709
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: else are you doing while you're there, I've been working, Oh,

710
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: working a little bit, golfing a lot, working on that handicap.

711
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: So Marting. Marting is a professional photographer and has worked

712
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: as a videographer as well. So this is going to

713
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: work out really good for us that you're going to

714
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: be running the camera for dad, because if it was

715
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: just him out there, we wouldn't have a great visual

716
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: experience today. But questionable, all right, what do you think

717
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: the odds are of your dad catching a fish right

718
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: now in one minute.

719
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 5: Uh, they're actually pretty good.

720
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: I saw some testing out here earlier and it actually worked,

721
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: so okay, I think it might be good. I did

722
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: want to. I want to note, though, if you had

723
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: remembered Brody's story about the moose got me thinking. I

724
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: just saw our first or our first trip together to

725
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: the Brooks Range was ten years ago, just recently. If

726
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: you remember that moose hunt, Yeah, anyway, that was a

727
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: lake hunt. It's kind of the opposite of the ridge hunt.

728
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: You just go to a lake and then don't move,

729
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: except for then we moved a lot and killed it

730
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: way far away. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that too,

731
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: all right, flipper around, let's talk to the poppy honest there.

732
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: All right, so no, no, listen, that wasn't too bad

733
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: at all. I want to hear in your words, what

734
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: prompted you to want to participate in one minute fishing?

735
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 5: Just to show that old old folks can do it too.

736
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: You know.

737
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 6: Last week I think that there was a pretty good

738
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 6: example of that with Pat Durkin.

739
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 5: And we're just going to continue on that line.

740
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Now, when when when is the last time

741
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: prior to today that you've handled a fishing rod?

742
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 6: Well, as your your brother asked me, like, other than

743
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 6: fishing with your grandkids, I think twenty years ago, maybe

744
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 6: twenty five.

745
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: Well that's not true, because we went on a charter

746
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: on Lake Michigan like five summers ago.

747
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 5: Oh you're right, Oh yeah, but that's not kind. That's

748
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 5: that's that's like trolling and then then just pulling them in.

749
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 5: That's right, you're right, that is correct, man. I'm proud of.

750
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: You for knowing the difference that when you're on that boat,

751
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: that grant does all the work you all right, So

752
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: when you when you decided to do this, did you

753
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: have to go down to the local fishing store to

754
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: get some advice on how to catch a fish?

755
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 6: Well, as everybody knows, you'd explained, No. I just remembered

756
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 6: that all these things that I had to practice, and

757
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 6: they were all coming back to me, like when my

758
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 6: dad was teaching me how to fish, and basically it

759
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 6: was yeah, don't do this, don't do that. Here's the

760
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 6: right way to put a worm on. Make sure your

761
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 6: bobber's shut right, make sure your weights are right.

762
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: What's the right way to put a worm on. Everyone

763
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: needs to know how you put a worm on.

764
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: See that hide that hook, bury that hook in there?

765
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 5: There you go. Okay, so to make sure it's moving still.

766
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're going with a pretty standard uh bobber

767
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: with the worm and uh you're on your you're on

768
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: your own little dock that you built for the grandkids,

769
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: and uh you're you're you're targeting panfish. I'm guessing you

770
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: got it.

771
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 6: Although there are largemouth fast in here in northern but

772
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 6: uh on the testing they have not come through.

773
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be panted.

774
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: Okay, are you ready? We've got a claw here, eagle

775
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: claw with uh big reds.

776
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 5: You're ready?

777
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: Are you ready? We're ready with the clock is going

778
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: to start on your first cast? All right, all right,

779
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: he's made a cast. The bobbers in, he's closed the bail.

780
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: It's in the zone. We're looking for any twitches now watching.

781
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: If you can zoom in on that bobber, he'd be

782
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: my favorite brother. Oh no, not a bite. He's going.

783
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: He's going for another cat.

784
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 4: I think he's panicking, don't.

785
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 5: He a little bit of punk?

786
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: So then a little mother bast Oh oh he didn't

787
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: hit a spot. Don't tangle cantion, the one that lives

788
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: under the dock. Where's the timer?

789
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 8: He's got about fifteen seconds.

790
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: He got a little bit more.

791
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: Hissed him fifteen seconds. We just need to get him

792
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: on the line in a minute, right he look, that's

793
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: the minute has ended.

794
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: I think he did too much practicing and trained up

795
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: all this little pet panfish.

796
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, well, good, good try. I'm glad.

797
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: It's fun to start a disappoint No, that's all right.

798
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: It's fun to see you with the rod in your hands.

799
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: Maybe this will spur a little more fishing in uh

800
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: in your days.

801
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: I know I'm a disappointment to the meat eater group.

802
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: We'll do better. No, not not, We're not disappointed. That

803
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: was fun. That was fun. Thanks for participating.

804
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 5: You're welcome.

805
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: All right. A hot tip off, Oh man, it's moving

806
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: so fat.

807
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 5: Here we go.

808
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: Hot tip Off is where we played two videos that

809
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: contain advice for hunters and anglers. Then we declare which

810
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: tip was hotter this week. It is Steve Ranella versus

811
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: Steven Ranella.

812
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 10: Steven Ranella, welcome to another Hot tip Off. Now, in

813
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 10: the past, people have sized my hot tip offs as

814
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 10: being things that are too obscure for normal use, right

815
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 10: like things that don't really pertain to a wide enough

816
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 10: audience of hunters and angers. So for this hot tip off,

817
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 10: I'm gonna do something. It's appropriate men, women, children, hippies, stoners, headbangers, partiers, jocks, Southerners,

818
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 10: something for everybody. Everybody knows. When colin moose, you want

819
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 10: to use a scapula because it.

820
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 5: Gives you a good sound. Okay, good breaking it right now.

821
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 10: Well, typically use a moose scapula, but on one moose hunt

822
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 10: you might burn through two moose scapulas because they give

823
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 10: out right here, here's the hot tip. Get yourself a

824
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 10: buffalo scapula. I sourced mine from north Bridge or Bison.

825
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 10: You see how I cut down that little bone to

826
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 10: make it a nicer handle.

827
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: This has got.

828
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 5: One dead hold to it, the name days of Colin.

829
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: Indestructible.

830
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 10: I'm gonna hang this from a tree here in moose

831
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 10: camp that'll be waiting for me next year.

832
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining.

833
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: Good ship, Steve and Vanilla.

834
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 10: Welcome to another hot tip off. When you're leaving your

835
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 10: moose camp and you want your scapulous to be available

836
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 10: next year.

837
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: Time up in a treat. We did this.

838
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 10: Last year and something stolen, and so I'm doing it again.

839
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: What are you using scapula for?

840
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: Oh?

841
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 10: For rake and brush or moose hunt? Last year we

842
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 10: hung fresh ones up in a tree with the meat

843
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 10: still on them, and they got stolen. This year, I'm

844
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 10: just trying to hang some dry ones up and hopes

845
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 10: they'll be waiting for me next year.

846
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 4: Who do you think you're honest?

847
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: A couple of good tips. I think I like the

848
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: use of the bison and scap you love better than

849
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: hanging it up in the tree.

850
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: Uh, well, yeah, we don't know if the hanging up

851
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: in the tree is gonna work.

852
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: Cow, this piece of dog hair has been on your

853
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 4: hat all morning and it's really bargaining.

854
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: Life, that's true, and it didn't work last time. The

855
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: only thing, too, that I don't necessarily like about hanging

856
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: up in that, especially a small little tree like that,

857
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna see a lot of sun and uh, you

858
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: know it's gonna become more brittle exactly, So, Steve, you'll lose,

859
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: but you also won. Hey, good job, Steve.

860
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, loaded the deck, so to speak.

861
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: Joining us U. Next right now on the line is

862
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: logger white Seep who owns Old Northwest Timber and Habitat.

863
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: He's calling us from my deer hunting property in Wisconsin

864
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: where he's on day three of logging it. Let me

865
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: tell you for me, it is like Christmas. I was

866
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: introduced to Wyatt through Doug Dirt about two years ago

867
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: when I acquired the property and needed a logger due

868
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: to our managed forest law plan which required to cut.

869
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: Due to the smaller size of the property and my

870
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: custom needs around the project, finding a logger was difficult.

871
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: Most logging companies are interested in only logging, not building

872
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: wildlife openings, access roads, fire brakes, flash file explosures, et cetera.

873
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: Old Northwest Timber and Habitat specializes in exactly this. Now

874
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: that the work has finally commenced, I am beyond ecstatic.

875
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: Like if you've never been in this position, it's just

876
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: hard to relate. But baby, oh my gosh, man, I'm

877
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: so fired up. So why welcome to the show, buddy.

878
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up?

879
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: Guys? What's going on there right now? And don't say

880
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: where you're exactly out. I'm trying to keep my little

881
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: located there is as private as possible. But in central Wisconsin,

882
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: what's going on?

883
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got you going down.

884
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: Right now.

885
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 11: Kind of like you said, we kind of do everything

886
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 11: right from we can utilize you know, all tools right

887
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 11: down from a backpack sprayer to this harvester that I'm

888
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 11: sitting in right now, and uh, in a minute, I'm

889
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 11: gonna show you what exactly is a timber harvester and

890
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 11: how we're using it.

891
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: Cool. You want to start with that or you want

892
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: to get in on that. Although loopold quote quote, you

893
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: were telling me that you thought might kind of sway

894
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: Steven Ranella to being a little bit more pro my project.

895
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 11: All right, I can start off with that, okay. So yeah,

896
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 11: due to the seventy fifth anniversary of the Saint County Almanac,

897
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 11: I was reading it a little bit earlier and I

898
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 11: thought this would pertain to your situation with Steve a

899
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 11: little bit out of Chapter thirteen of the Sand County Almanac.

900
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 11: Although Leopold says, I have read many definitions of what

901
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 11: is a conservationist and written not a few myself, but

902
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 11: I suspect that the best one is written out with

903
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 11: a pen, but with an axe. It is a matter

904
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 11: of what a man thinks about while chopping or deciding

905
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 11: what the chop. A conservationist is one that is humbly

906
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 11: aware that with each stroke he is writing his signature

907
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 11: on the face of his land. Signatures, of course, differ

908
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 11: whether written with an axe or pen, and this is

909
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 11: as it should be.

910
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. That makes me feel

911
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: really good about what I'm doing. I'm hoping, see Steve's listening.

912
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 11: Forestry in general is real situationally specific. You know, sometimes

913
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 11: it can be nice and cute and other times it

914
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 11: can be really messy. But the important thing is that

915
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 11: you've got a really solid plan going into it.

916
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 5: Yep.

917
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: And like you were showing me yes yesterday, Wyatt sent

918
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: me a little video of he was just walking through

919
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: the woods and showing me just not quite a carpet

920
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: but kind of a loose carpet of two foot tall

921
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: oak seed links. And so I've got my regeneration already started.

922
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: And so when he cuts now, it's just gonna release

923
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: those suckers and they're gonna go straight to the sky.

924
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: All right, let's see what the what the harvester does.

925
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 5: All right, guys, I'm gonna turn you around.

926
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 11: Hopefully I can get this in in the film here.

927
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm real interesting, man. Is a side

928
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: by side comparison of who gets to run the backpack

929
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: sprayer versus who gets to run the harvester. That looks

930
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: like a pretty fancy machine.

931
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like something out of Mad Max.

932
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: So we're looking at two wheels of this machine. I

933
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: can tell you because I've seen the whole thing. There's

934
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 1: six giant tires. And then this must be the head

935
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: that just came off the ground. Okay, that's cutting head.

936
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: It can open up.

937
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 11: I've got rullers here that moves the tree back and

938
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 11: forth so I can cut it.

939
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: It also takes log.

940
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 11: Measurements, and then it's got a hydraulically saw right there,

941
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 11: and that's what can cut the tree in bucket plans.

942
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 11: So I'm gonna cut a jack line right now.

943
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: Oh not that one. I want to save that one. Yeah,

944
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: just kidding, just kidding, cut all right.

945
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 11: So now that we've caught it, this thing has a

946
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 11: computer in it that measures log lines. I'm making pulp

947
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 11: wood right now, which is one hundred inches.

948
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: Holy moly. Yeah, it's like wow, measuring it, stripping all

949
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: the bark and the limbs off of it, and then

950
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: cutting it at one hundred inches and holy count you

951
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: just made like five or six hundred inch logs in

952
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: less than thirty seconds. Nope, go for number two. I

953
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: pick these two grads are at the bottom, cuts it

954
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: off and then just starts working up at one hundred

955
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: inch increments. I love it. It's gonna be messy, man,

956
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are gonna come and look

957
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: at it the first two three maybe in five years

958
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: and gonna go, oh, you destroyed this place. But man,

959
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: I have total faith at five years from now, they're

960
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna go, dude, can I come hunt and sit there? Uh,

961
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: because there's just deer all over the place, you know why,

962
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: real quea and just.

963
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 11: To put a little plug into you know, as far

964
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 11: as young forest goes, oftentimes it's ugly, especially at first,

965
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 11: it can be pretty ugly. But there's a lot of

966
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 11: wildlife species other than deer that are you know, that

967
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 11: need it, the rough grouse being one of them. Like

968
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 11: you alluded to, we're in the central third of the state.

969
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 11: There's still some rough grouse up here. Due to uh,

970
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 11: poor soil quality. There's not quite as much farmland. A

971
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 11: lot of that's being managed for timber. But when you

972
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 11: get down to the where Doug and I come from.

973
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 11: There's really not much grouse to speak of where there

974
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 11: used to be, you know, and that there's a lot

975
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 11: of different reasons for that. But you know, having old

976
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 11: trees is really important, but having young trees is really

977
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 11: important too.

978
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're leaving some of the old ones. So hey, man,

979
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for taking the time and showing

980
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: us around a little bit. This is mostly just for me.

981
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed it too, but I'd drive

982
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: Wyat crazy because I would just be checking in with

983
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: him every ten minutes to see what he's cutting and

984
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: what you got going on. So thank you for that.

985
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: We'll let you get back to it. Man, have a

986
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: great day.

987
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: You too. Man, it was great chatting with you guys.

988
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Wytt.

989
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 3: You didn't talk about the fact that you really got

990
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: to knock the piss out of those white tailed deer

991
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: if you want those oaks to grow up?

992
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 5: Oh dude.

993
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we again, very tight schedule in this show. We

994
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: can talk about that sometime. We have a why and

995
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: I kind of throw Silver Culture podcasts back and forth

996
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: with each other with each other, which is again something

997
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: I thought i'd never listened to is a silver culture podcast,

998
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: but I just listened to one. We have a big

999
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: issue with a lot of this stuff in the southern

1000
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: half of that property is what they call unmerchantable timber.

1001
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: It's just too small, too skinny. But I don't want

1002
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: it growing there anymore. I need to get it done.

1003
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: So we kind of landed on how to deal with it.

1004
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: Was just going to be built huge slash piles, like

1005
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: literally the size of a house, and then this winter

1006
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: burn them, okay, and just get rid of it. But

1007
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: it costs money to make the pile. It costs a

1008
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: time of money to go there and burn them. Just

1009
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: listen to one where they're doing these basically deer exclusions

1010
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: using the slash. So they build a wall twenty feet

1011
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: wide ten feet tall, and you make the exclusion how

1012
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: big you want. It could be all forty acres, it

1013
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: could be five acres. The smaller you get, you're sort

1014
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: of taking up almost too much space by the wall

1015
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: itself and not getting the center big enough to make

1016
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: it work. Diminishing return, yeah, yeah, but compared to because

1017
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: some places like Pennsylvania a very popular thing to do.

1018
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: And again this is going towards oak regeneration and preventing

1019
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: deer from eating seedlings is they actually go in there

1020
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: and put up fences to keep deer out so they

1021
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: can get these oaks going. And so this is sort

1022
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: of a natural way to do it. You put up

1023
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: basically a big giant slash pile. Everything on the inside

1024
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: can't get touched by the deer. And I think they said,

1025
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: like a fence can be like five six bucks a

1026
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: foot and doing this slash exclusion pile you can get

1027
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: it down to like a dollar dollar fifty a foot. Wow,

1028
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: and then it just disappears. Every year it goes down

1029
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: by ten percent and like ten twelve years into it,

1030
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: like it's almost non existent. Inside you've got you know,

1031
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: these growth hopefully that you've been looking for itself.

1032
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure service as wildlife habitat for little critters.

1033
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. What they said was amazing is that the

1034
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: only thing that that really keeps out is the deer.

1035
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: Everything else, turkeys, raccoons, possums, and grouse they just fly

1036
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: right over and get in there and use it.

1037
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: It is like a funny like you know, like down

1038
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 3: to lodge pole, lots of just down timber areas, like

1039
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: if you have a zone that you like to hunt

1040
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: because those are good refuge areas because they're they're hard, Like,

1041
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: not a lot of people go there to hunt.

1042
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: But I have a.

1043
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 3: Couple of spots where it's like you catch yourself thinking, like, boy,

1044
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 3: this used to be a lot harder, and it's not

1045
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: just an old man thing of like, oh I walked

1046
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: to school uphill both ways.

1047
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: It actually did it was worse. Oh yeah, right because

1048
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: increasing in heighth Yeah, because that timber breaks down and

1049
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: gets closer and closer and closer to the ground.

1050
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1051
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to have your finger on that pulse

1052
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: man to do that, because yeah, and those when those

1053
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: things first get started, like after a burn, it sucks.

1054
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh I did some log hop in this weekend. Worn out?

1055
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for everybody for what's the word when

1056
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: you're like not that into it, but like you give

1057
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: somebody else, uh suffering through no.

1058
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: No following along?

1059
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not either of the indulging me. Yeah, thank you,

1060
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: thank you for indulging me and my timberwork over there

1061
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. Next, this is the news segment, I think.

1062
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: Uh Phil's Trivia.

1063
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 8: Welcome to Phil's Trivia, the only game show where I

1064
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 8: always win. I'm your host, Phil the Engineer, and today

1065
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 8: we are joined by Jannis Putellis, Ryan Callahan and Brody Henderson.

1066
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 8: This is a three round quiz show with questions that

1067
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,840
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1068
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 8: and instead of being senator or instead will be center

1069
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 8: around pop culture, entertainment or whatever the hell I feel

1070
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 8: like asking Frankly, and there's definitely not a prize. And

1071
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 8: for the stat of the week this week, today, September

1072
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 8: twenty sixth, marks the release of a new Legend of

1073
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 8: Zelda game, the Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, which

1074
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 8: is the twenty first mainline entry in the franchise. I

1075
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 8: already have it downloaded onto my switch and we'll be

1076
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 8: diving in later tonight. And hey, if you're interested in

1077
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 8: watching me live stream any games and hanging out in

1078
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 8: the chat, whether in my personal time or on the

1079
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 8: company's dime, please write into radio at the meateater dot com.

1080
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 8: If we get three or more emails asking for a

1081
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 8: certain type of project or a pitch for an idea,

1082
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 8: we legally have to do it. That's just company policy.

1083
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 8: And for this week's housekeeping, I just want to call

1084
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 8: some anxiety in the room about questions that I will

1085
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 8: be asking. It would be no fun for me to

1086
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 8: just roll in here and ask you guys a bunch

1087
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 8: of questions that I know you wouldn't know the answer to.

1088
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 8: So rather than ask you to recite the recipe of

1089
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 8: a nineteen forty four trader vix my tie to the

1090
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 8: quarter ounce, I have prepared three questions that I believe

1091
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 8: are very accessible, and I think there's a solid chance

1092
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 8: that one of you goes three for three?

1093
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: Could you recite this?

1094
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: My Thai rest Phil? The original My tie is actually

1095
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: very simple. I learned this from Phil.

1096
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

1097
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 8: Crazy, It's like I just won't shut up about the

1098
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 8: same things all the time. Uh, Joannis, No, I could not.

1099
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 8: Actually I can tell you the ingredients, but not not

1100
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 8: the recipe to the quarter ounds. But you know, I

1101
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 8: think I think Brody, you frankly surprise me. We'll talk

1102
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 8: about movies sometimes and you bring up something that you've watched.

1103
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 8: You seem like you're kind of a pretty religious watcher

1104
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 8: of things, like whether it's like HBO shows or come out.

1105
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: It all depends, Phil, like some stuff sure, like thirty

1106
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 4: year old Jim Carrey movies. No, oh yeah, but yeah,

1107
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 4: you know, I like I like to watch a movie

1108
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 4: now and then.

1109
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 8: Yeah right, well, I wish you all good luck today.

1110
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 8: Let's see where are we in the script man Spener,

1111
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 8: this is hard. The Adrian index this week is one

1112
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 8: point five, meaning our winner should get I don't really

1113
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 8: have any idea actually, and with that, we're onto the

1114
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 8: game of trivia.

1115
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: Play the drop me power resides where men believe it resides.

1116
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: It's a trick, a shadow.

1117
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 7: On the wall.

1118
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 10: I'm very engaged game now, and the great games terrifying.

1119
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 8: Okay, let's see. It's the first time I've ever done

1120
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 8: trivia this way. Let's see here.

1121
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm entertaining that are we doing this?

1122
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 4: Are we like as far as answering, Phil, that we

1123
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: got a question one?

1124
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, we don't have any whiteboards, you know what?

1125
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 8: Just tell me, yeah you want to grab some white boards?

1126
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 8: Career really quick. I'll go ahead and ask the question

1127
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 8: first question number one. The topic is not quite public lands.

1128
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: Here's one for you.

1129
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 8: Musician Jackson Brown wrote in nineteen seventy two about quote

1130
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 8: standing on a corner in this Southwestern American city.

1131
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh got this one, Phil, I think.

1132
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 8: Ready everybody's writing everyone's ready. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I

1133
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 8: like to hear. Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers.

1134
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 8: We have Giannis saying Winslow Arizona, cow and Brody both

1135
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 8: saying Winslow Arizona. Holy crap, everyone got it right, but

1136
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 8: not from Jackson Brown. Well here's my uh follow up

1137
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 8: facto at time.

1138
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: Brody.

1139
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 8: Despite being made famous by the Eagles in the same year,

1140
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 8: the song take It Easy was initially written by Jackson

1141
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 8: Brown with the intention of it being part of his

1142
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 8: debut album. After hitting a wall and finishing the song

1143
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 8: that was only partially written, he played a rough version

1144
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 8: for his neighbor and Eagles guitarist Glenn Frye quote, I

1145
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 8: showed him the beginnings of that song and he asked

1146
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 8: if I was going to put it on my record,

1147
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 8: and I said it wouldn't be ready in time. He said, well,

1148
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 8: we'll put it on. We'll do it because he liked

1149
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 8: it for fry put the finishing touches on the song,

1150
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 8: and it went on to be the first track of

1151
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 8: the Eagles debut album, and was later recorded by Brown

1152
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 8: himself and released as a part of his second album,

1153
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 8: For every Man. That's good trivia, Phil, that is thanks.

1154
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 8: That's beat And see how you guys feel about that beast.

1155
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 8: The next question, question number two. The topic is woodsmanship.

1156
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 8: Bat guano and sulfur are the two components needed to

1157
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 8: cast the fireball spell in this role playing game that

1158
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 8: is celebrating its fiftieth anniversary this year.

1159
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh, Brodie's having to think a little bit.

1160
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 4: I listened to the question, but I didn't read it.

1161
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: The only reason I'm knowing I'm gonna know this one

1162
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: is because of the fiftieth anniversary and it's been on

1163
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: the radio a little bit.

1164
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1165
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 8: I tried to provide some context clues. It's part of it,

1166
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 8: you know, making it accessible. How are we doing?

1167
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: Everyone's ready?

1168
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 8: All right, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have

1169
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 8: Yannis saying D and D, Cal saying D and D.

1170
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 8: Brody saying D and D. Everyone's got a perfect game.

1171
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 8: The answer is Dungeons and Dragons.

1172
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 3: I was like, when did computer games start?

1173
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 8: First published in nineteen seventy four, Dungeons and Dragons was

1174
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 8: developed by Dave Arnison and Gary Guy Gaxon was a

1175
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 8: notable departure from existing tabletop games of the era, which

1176
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 8: were largely centered around military units and conquest as opposed

1177
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 8: to individual characters on a quest. The game's mechanics, which

1178
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 8: are based around four to twenty cited dice rolls to

1179
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 8: determine the outcome of a character's actions, went on to

1180
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 8: be the blueprint for Japanese role playing video games that

1181
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 8: would in turn inspire role playing game design the world over.

1182
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 8: Actual play streaming shows such as Critical Role and Dimension

1183
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 8: twenty featured plotlines on shows like Stranger Things and Freaks

1184
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 8: and Geeks, as well as admitted celebrity players have made

1185
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 8: Dungeons and Dragons more popular than ever in recent years,

1186
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 8: with over one hundred and fifty hours million hours of

1187
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 8: D and D gameplay being viewed on Twitch and YouTube

1188
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty alone.

1189
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: All Vince Vaughn's big D and D guys.

1190
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: That's right.

1191
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's kind of a secret Hollywood D and D club. Yeah,

1192
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 8: and he's a part of it. Tom Morello from Rage

1193
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 8: Against the Chim Yeah, yeah, Stephen Colbert is.

1194
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 3: A big player.

1195
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 8: Well, you guys are doing are doing great. I wanted

1196
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 8: to make you feel good. We'll see how this last

1197
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 8: question goes. I do have a tie breaker, so I

1198
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 8: think and I think we might need it. Question number three,

1199
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 8: The topic is cooking. In the two thousand and four

1200
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 8: film Sideways, Paul Giamatti famously declares that he is not

1201
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 8: drinking any fing blank, a popular grape variety. Callok's confident,

1202
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 8: Jannis looks confident, Brody looks confident. Holy col go ahead

1203
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 8: and reveal your answers. He's not drink drinking anyfing Murlau.

1204
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 8: That is correct way to go gang. Because of its

1205
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 8: use as a standalone variety as well as a popular

1206
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 8: grape and blended wines, Merleau is the most widely grown

1207
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 8: grape in the Bordeaux Bordeaux wine regions of France. After

1208
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 8: the release of the film Sideways, the Western United States

1209
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 8: saw two percent decline in Merlau's sales that resulted in

1210
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 8: a noticeable fall of its price. However, the most significant

1211
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 8: ripple effect of the film was its effect on pino

1212
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 8: noir sales. Gmad's characters character Miles favorite wine, which jumped

1213
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 8: by sixteen percent in the Western US in the following years.

1214
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 8: A study in the Journal of Wine Economics, co authored

1215
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 8: by eight staff members from UC Davis, argued that the

1216
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 8: spike in demand of pino noir caused wine makers to

1217
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 8: plant the grape in less than suitable climates, causing a

1218
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 8: long term negative effect on the quality of pino noir

1219
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 8: in the country.

1220
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

1221
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody recently, and some wine person.

1222
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: They were saying that Merlow still hasn't recovered the sales

1223
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: in that movie.

1224
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 8: And I played a clip from the Project Grizzly, just

1225
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 8: like a video clip in the background, and we got

1226
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 8: dinged for it. I don't have a video clip, but

1227
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 8: I do have an audio clip of this quote.

1228
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and hear that.

1229
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 4: Do not sabotage me.

1230
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: If you want to be a lightweight, that's your call,

1231
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: but do not sabotage me.

1232
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 3: Oh my, I cap you got it.

1233
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 5: And if they want to drink Merlow, we're drinking Merlow.

1234
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: Now.

1235
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 3: If anybody orders Melow, I'm leaving. I am not drinking

1236
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: any Marlow.

1237
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: Kay, Okay, relax, Miles, Jesus no mere Low.

1238
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 4: Did you bring your xanax.

1239
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 3: Love that movie?

1240
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 8: Well, here's the thing, gang, we're going to a tiebreaker.

1241
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 8: I don't have a special sound up or anything. I'm

1242
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 8: just gonna ask the question. And I asked my wife

1243
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 8: the lovely Adrian Taylor to come up with my tiebreaker question.

1244
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 8: So it is a numerical question, and here it is.

1245
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 8: According to a study in an article published on puzzlehobby

1246
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 8: dot com, what is the average amount of puzzle pieces

1247
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 8: that are actually in the box of a jigsaw puzzle

1248
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 8: advertised to have one thousand pieces? What the answer is

1249
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 8: not one thousand?

1250
01:08:58,320 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 5: Hm?

1251
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, and really quick, guys, because of the sound

1252
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 8: effects I'm playing on the computer, I had to change

1253
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 8: them settings on my soundboard. So I apologize that you

1254
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 8: all just heard that more low quote, probably twice in

1255
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 8: a weird echo situation on the live stream.

1256
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: I'll fix that in the podcast.

1257
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 3: There's more bang for their bucky thank you.

1258
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 8: That's that's the framing I'm looking for. Does everyone have

1259
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 8: an answer? Yeah, all right, I'm happy go ahead and

1260
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 8: reveal your answers. We have Giannis saying one thousand and

1261
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 8: two pieces, cal saying one thousand and five, Brody saying

1262
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 8: nine hundred and ninety. The correct answer is one thy

1263
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 8: twenty six pieces, making Ryan Callahan our winner.

1264
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: Good job.

1265
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 8: Hell and anyway, I don't have like like a cool

1266
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 8: fun outro or anything. I just want to thank you

1267
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 8: in the bottom of I wrote a little victory speech

1268
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 8: Phil's trivia.

1269
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: That's great, Phil, thank you, Oh of course, my pleasure. Yeah,

1270
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. You're making us feel, you know,

1271
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: like we actually know something about pop culture. Yeah, real hill. Yeah,

1272
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: even though that one question was from before I was born.

1273
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: Listener Feedback, we're gonna wrap it up.

1274
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 8: Here, Phil Listener feed We got some great questions that

1275
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 8: came in today really quick. I just want to say

1276
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 8: someone asked for tips about getting his daughter excited about

1277
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 8: the outdoors, and we had a ton of people just

1278
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 8: respond to him in the live chat, giving him tips,

1279
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 8: things to do, ways to frame things. So thanks guys

1280
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 8: in the live chat. But first one is for cal

1281
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 8: How do lamas stack up to other pack animals.

1282
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: Well, they carry less weight and they move slower. Would

1283
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 3: be like the two broad negatives. If they step on you,

1284
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 3: you're probably not gonna break a toe. So they're they're

1285
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: a gentler beast to be around. They're not in it

1286
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 3: for affection. Don't get thinking that they're gonna end up

1287
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: loving you after a week. They can definitely hold their

1288
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 3: footing on some steeper terrain than conventional stock.

1289
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: Uh, and I've got you know for either, do.

1290
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 3: You well, that's a little bit of a miss.

1291
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1292
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they they are a browser there. The

1293
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 3: more you look at them, the more time you spend

1294
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 3: with them, you're like, that's a dinosaur. So they can

1295
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 3: find They'll eat tree bark, they'll eat pine needles, They'll

1296
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 3: they'll eat a bunch of things. But just like any

1297
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 3: animal out there, they go for the good stuff first

1298
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 3: and then they'll they'll go get get the other stuff.

1299
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, they're definitely like a little heartier here and there,

1300
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: but definitely something to consider real easy. I've known bo

1301
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 3: Baity at Wilderness Ridge pack lamas or trail lamas for

1302
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: i mean more than a decade and this is the

1303
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 3: first time I've ever actually rented any lamas from them,

1304
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 3: and they were awesome. They're they're great.

1305
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 4: I'm not going to have a life threatening wreck on

1306
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 4: a steep trail with them either, like you could with.

1307
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 3: You're not you know, we we had like a couple

1308
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 3: of blow ups that would never be considered a blow

1309
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: up in the horse mule community, right. But yeah, so

1310
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 3: they're definitely like more family friendly. There's fewer dangers out there.

1311
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 3: And then the babies there at w r L will

1312
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 3: w rt L. They have an online course these days

1313
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 3: that will get you up to snuff and the answers

1314
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 3: a ton of questions and and it really is valuable,

1315
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 3: so uh yeah, check them out.

1316
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 8: Right on, Brody m M. Did your Alaska hunt live

1317
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 8: up to expectations? And what was the best part?

1318
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 4: Oh, it exceeded expectations for sure. Like, I know this

1319
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 4: is gonna sound hokey, but the best part was like

1320
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 4: me and Matt and Steve had like a lot of laughs,

1321
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 4: Like like getting the moose was like, yeah, I'd have

1322
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 4: been bombed if I didn't get one. Probably like everyone's like, oh,

1323
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 4: I'm innute for the experience. I don't care about getting

1324
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 4: an animal. I wanted to get a bowl bad. But

1325
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 4: the laughs that we had, like constantly over the course

1326
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 4: of more than a week were super cool.

1327
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: Right on.

1328
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 8: I'm just kind of a big question, cal You can

1329
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 8: tackle as much of it as you want. But last question,

1330
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 8: in your opinion, how do you feel about the Montana

1331
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 8: block management system in comparison to other states. It's a

1332
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 8: question from Adam.

1333
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I think block management is awesome. You know, none

1334
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 3: of these systems doesn't matter if it's like wehaw so sorry.

1335
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 3: Block Management is a private land public access program completely voluntary.

1336
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 3: Landowners can can sign up with the state and then

1337
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 3: they get compensated by use. Basically, the more people who

1338
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 3: show up, the more money that they get. Every one

1339
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 3: of these programs, Montana's is thirty years old, started in

1340
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 3: one place and now it's at a different place because

1341
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 3: you know, it's got to change with the time so

1342
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 3: that you can make more money in block management than

1343
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 3: you used to be able to make. But it's a

1344
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 3: system that will will never be perfect. But I'll tell

1345
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 3: you right now, the opportunities that you get on these

1346
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: private land public access programs are are absolutely fantastic, and

1347
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: it weighs on every single hunter who participates. So you

1348
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 3: have got to sign up where you're supposed to sign up,

1349
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 3: pick up other people's trash, be respectful, don't drive on

1350
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 3: wet roads. And one thing that I don't think a

1351
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,520
Speaker 3: lot of people consider. When a lot of these areas

1352
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 3: are only open to foot traffic, you can't drive in there.

1353
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 3: That's not because they want people to have a harder time.

1354
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:37,480
Speaker 3: That's because they're really nervous about fire and invasive weeds, grasses,

1355
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So they're trying to increase their bottom

1356
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 3: line on that family property. This is another opportunity for

1357
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 3: them to do so, but they're they're trying to maintain

1358
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 3: that healthy forage for their livestock.

1359
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 4: So, like i'd jump in and say, as far as

1360
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 4: the examples that I'm familiar with, like the block Management

1361
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 4: program is like the star, like the scale of it,

1362
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 4: the ease of using it compared to some other states

1363
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 4: like Colorado, for example, ranching for wildlife, Like you've got

1364
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 4: to apply to hunt there. There's not a lot of

1365
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 4: places enrolled in it. It's very hard to get on it.

1366
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 4: Like block Management in Montana is like a prime example

1367
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,959
Speaker 4: of you know, private land access.

1368
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then WEEHAW in Kansas would be another, like

1369
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 3: very very good program. So yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

1370
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 4: On, thanks guys, thank you jump.

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01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 9: In for a second. There are a ton of people

1372
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 9: shouting out pill tons of D and D fans in

1373
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 9: the chat as well, and a lot of people saying

1374
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 9: that they want you Phil to host an upcoming episode

1375
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 9: of trivia, So maybe maybe that'll happen.

1376
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 8: Bring will bring the fastballs for that one ten questions. Yeah,

1377
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 8: I'm sorry about that echo, guys. I feel like a

1378
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 8: real a real schmuck is amateur hour. But yeah, uh,

1379
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,520
Speaker 8: thanks for thanks for putting up with it.

1380
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 3: All good you got you got a lot of leeway there, Bud.

1381
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 1: Thanks yea? Yeah, all make mistakes film all right? Two

1382
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 1: final notes. Next week is white Tail Week a meat Eater,

1383
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: meaning we'll be bringing you our best white tael content

1384
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: as well as some great deals on whitetail gear. The

1385
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: white tail specific articles, podcast videos, and shopping start on

1386
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: Monday at the meeteater dot com. Also in honor of

1387
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: Whitetail Week, the crew for next week's live show will

1388
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: be reviewing Escanaba in the Moonlight for the Meat Eater

1389
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 1: Movie Club. If you want to join in on the discussion,

1390
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: you can stream that Jeff Daniels classic on Amazon Prime,

1391
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 1: tob or Roku TV go root for the Buckless uper

1392
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: Have you watched that one yet?

1393
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 5: No?

1394
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need to.

1395
01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: You don't know when?

1396
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 2: Ye?

1397
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: Well, because it sounds like I need to do some

1398
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 3: drugs in order to watch it.

1399
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: Oh who said that?

1400
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 3: Everybody I've talked to? H? Can I throw in one

1401
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 3: one more thing here?

1402
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1403
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1404
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, just to touch back on this Utah public

1405
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 3: Land situation, it is so bizarre to me that people

1406
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 3: are like, oh, the Feds. The reality is is we

1407
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,879
Speaker 3: are the Feds. This is America. It is a government

1408
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: for the people, by the people. If you aren't participating,

1409
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 3: you have chosen to put your head in the sand

1410
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 3: or you know, between your butt cheeks and an orifice. Right,

1411
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 3: you have the ability to weigh in on this stuff.

1412
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 3: We always change the federal government changes. You need to

1413
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 3: weigh in and be active. That's why groups like backcountry

1414
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 3: hunters and angry exist. If you're a part of any

1415
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 3: other group, you should tell them that they need to

1416
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 3: weigh in on this situation. Right, these giant public lands,

1417
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: we talked about two public land experiences that Brody and

1418
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 3: I just had. We're going to be out on public

1419
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 3: land a bunch more. This stuff needs to stick around,

1420
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 3: and it's really up to us whether it does or not.

1421
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 3: So weigh in. Start at the state level. State representatives.

1422
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 3: Talk to your legislators. You can call any government office, okay,

1423
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter if you have some sort of

1424
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 3: degree in politics or policy. If you're turning a wrench

1425
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 3: or doing anything, you're spending money on public lands, that

1426
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 3: is your voice. You say, hey, my name's this. My

1427
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 3: family does this every year. This stuff is super important

1428
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 3: to me. That stuff needs to stick around. Your voice

1429
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 3: does matter. You gotta way if you choose not to,

1430
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear you, bitch. Thanks Gil, Call

1431
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 3: to action.

1432
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: There you go.

1433
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 8: Oh and speaking of a Call to action, Spencer would

1434
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 8: like to remind you that you're on next week's episode,

1435
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 8: so you have to watch Escanaba in the Moonlight.

1436
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, everybody, We'll see you next week.