1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Yah yah. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: H h h h m hmm. 3 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: Our guest is ready to join us your lifetime. You'd 4 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: like to do your intro. 5 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 4: Elijah Burn couple of down because now I'm mad Instagram? 6 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 5: You mount you my friends? Elijah Hi, honey. 7 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: Hey, what is going on? 8 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 5: Are you giving me the eyes already? 9 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: Who got you with that? Girl? 10 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: It's uh, it's people being cheap on social You got 11 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: me high. 12 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking about Instagram and people being cheap 13 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 4: and not buying stuff and not being able to post links. 14 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody wants stuff free these days. 15 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 5: I know it. I know it, but it's lovely to 16 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 5: see you. 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted to apologize. You know, we got 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: the ten minute ruler wrestling Freddy. 19 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: Well, it's eleven minutes for you. So you will get 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 4: the little slap on the wrist when I see you 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: next time. I saw my man twice lest I saw you. 22 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 5: What you got your coffee? 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: And that's what happened. 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: You got me scared with your message from Twitter, and 25 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: so I was like, let me get everything together, and 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: I tried to make sure I have my cup of 27 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: coffee and I spilled it because I was rushing. 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 5: Are you kidding you spilled your dunkin Donuts with the lid, not. 29 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: The duncans all now, so I spilled my other coffee 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: that I made because I can drink coffee all day. 31 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: May I just say, your skin looks amazing. I I 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: thought I was looking kind of tan, and now with 33 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: him on the screen, I look as palace Casper. I'm 34 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: really I'm really angry. 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 5: I saw you a couple of weeks ago and Fort Wayne, 36 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 5: which was a delight. What did you think of that? 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 6: Uh? 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 5: That crowd? 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: It was different. 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: It's Indiana, you know, it's Fort Wayne, not indian Indianapolis. 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 5: It's Fort Wayne, which is like this big. 42 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: Looks very forgotten part of uh, you know, Indianapolis. 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: I'll say so, yes, it was great. 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: It's always great just because you get the h The 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: crowd was interesting, but certainly having all of you guys there, 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: and you know. 47 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: Anytime I see you, I just freaking lose it. 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 5: So I have what is that? 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: What is that? 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: Does it go back to our first encounter? 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: Fake e C dub know it goes not not not 52 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: not w W e c W know it goes it 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: goes back to the Sunshine Network and and and Chad 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: just let me first, allow hope to say what up? 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Because Franny, You know, when me and Franny get in 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: the right it can be it can be one hundred people, 57 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: it could be thirty of the boys. 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: Nothing matters at that point in time. 59 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 3: It's just like I'm not even here. 60 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: I just not. 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: I'll laugh, I'll throw it a quip here and there, Oh, 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: I see the pusic. 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm not here. But uh, it goes back to the 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: school Shine network. 65 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: Like I told you originally during w W E c W, 66 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: you know, I was I was, I was man that 67 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: I was in high school and maybe a little beyond 68 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: or before that, and I'm watching you and I gotta 69 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: say you upside down was always my favorite position. 70 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: Uh, the pile driver Tommy. 71 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so when you know that is the memory 72 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: one of the memories that always stays in my head 73 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: is him putting you up for the pile driver. But 74 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: then just the queen of extreme, you know, coming through 75 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: that curtain and through the interest way, and and when 76 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: you're in there, you just got there's something that was 77 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: always so innocent. There's nothing like a bad girl that 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: comes across innocent. 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I am Bill. 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, So she had that whole innocent girl vibe even 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: though she was presented and played this vicious, you know, 82 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: extreme queen that she was. And I just always dug it. 83 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: I always dug her. 84 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. 85 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: We just watched the clip of her jumping over a 86 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: table onto Paul Hayman, so that wasn't very reserved. 87 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: And and and the one thing that I each when 88 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: I'm doing some holding seminars and teaching now in the 89 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: Fighting Evolution wrestling in Miami, Florida, I wish we had 90 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: that type of realism I should say, uh today with 91 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: the women, I don't. 92 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: And this is a credit to you, and. 93 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: And uh Beulah McGillicuddy and and all the you know, 94 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: the other main stays that was there when I saw 95 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: you guys go at it. 96 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: Paul Hayman been such an evil genius. He is in 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: his own way. He knew how to present a cat fight. 98 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to see women try to be men 99 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: and a wrestling ring. 100 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to see It's okay. I understand when there's. 101 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: New day and age women are athletic, they can do this, 102 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: that great, But when I want there's nowhere in the 103 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: world when you are on. 104 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: The street and pops from the streets. 105 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: Okay, when when when women go at it, there's hair pulling, 106 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: there's hair tugging. 107 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 5: Like a real fight. 108 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: Where's a real fight, And you guys presented that at 109 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: times with the sex appeal as well. And I remember 110 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: in my backyard. I remember my backyard of my home, 111 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: my mom's home, dad's home. 112 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: There was a cat fight going on. We were in 113 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: the one to watch it. 114 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: You know, the the g strings are all out who 115 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: they are fall falling out that you. 116 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: No, there was fighting over another dude, but it was 117 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: in my backyard. 118 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: Well, I I thank you for the compliments. We're not 119 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 4: here to talk about me. I want to talk about you. 120 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: And so you mentioned Paul. I'm jumping ahead a little 121 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: bit because you've been wrestling before two thousand and six. 122 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 4: But what was your relationship like with Paul in the 123 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 4: Fake E C. 124 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: Dub? 125 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 5: Did you get to work with him a lot? There? 126 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: I did work with Paul. 127 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 5: It was the fake E C. 128 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: Double can't Yeah, we just call it w W E 129 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: C W. That's that's our you know, that's your originals. 130 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 4: Call it the fake there you go, Yeah, I'm sorry, 131 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: no disrespect to anyone. 132 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I worked with Paul. 133 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: Paul Paul is was. 134 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: And will probably always be a genius. 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: And and and by genius, it doesn't necessarily from my 136 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: take on Paul, it doesn't necessarily mean that all of 137 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: his ideas are just money and great and no, no, no, 138 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: genius means the worker in him, Paul, and you probably 139 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: got more of it than I. But Paul is a 140 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: freaking work. Paul can talk the flesh off of a skeleton. 141 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: Paul Hayman, you know, Paul Hayman can convince you that 142 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: there's life after death, and he can convince you of 143 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: heaven the hell, and then he'll could miss you that 144 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: hell's the better place to go to. 145 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: We always said, he will tell you the sky is 146 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: green and the grass is blue, and you'd be like, 147 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: yes it is, because that's he. 148 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 5: Just has that gifted gab. 149 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 150 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: People, people always told us that we were like zombies. 151 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: We did whatever, like puppets. They called us puppets. We 152 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: would he was the puppet master and we were his 153 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: puppets and stuff. But it was we believed in our 154 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: products so much that we wanted to believe that what 155 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: he said was gospel, right, It wasn't that oh we 156 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: drank the kool aid. I hate that expression, but that's 157 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: that's another thing that was always out there. You guys 158 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: were so stupid because we weren't getting paid at the time, 159 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 4: you know, but we were just so hopeful that something 160 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: would click and that the company would be saved and 161 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 4: whatever Paul told us was going to come true, which 162 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 4: it didn't. 163 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 5: But you know, we were his soldiers. 164 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: So that was the bond. That was the you know, 165 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: you guys were they. 166 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: Out cast quote unquote promotion even from a fan watching 167 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: like myself. 168 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: You know, you guys were the little edge, and that could. 169 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: Every time I thought about the c W, I thought 170 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: about that Christmas story, Uh, with the Christmas Missives. 171 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: Toys, the Island of the Misfit Toys. That's what we 172 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 4: called ourselves. 173 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: That and that's how that's how I envisioned, uh. 174 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: And it took somebody like Paul, you know, to to 175 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: make it work. As far as pushing and encouraging you 176 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: guys and motivating you guys. He he tried to bring 177 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: that same aspect to w W E c W as well. 178 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: Sure it was only one problem, Uh, it wasn't his 179 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: show true and problem, you know. So so so there 180 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: were times when Paul can get you by yourself and 181 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: motivate you. I remember when they sent him down to 182 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: ob W and and and and you know when they 183 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: took him just W. You know, so they sent him 184 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: down the old b W de Vince and I and 185 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: I was working with him there before I got you know, uh, 186 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: when they sent him down demoting him for SmackDown. So 187 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: I worked with him in OBW before he went back 188 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: up to e c W. And I remember Paul coming 189 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: in and he's like, he just I want you to 190 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: go out there and just preach. 191 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: Just there. There are your congregation, there are your people. 192 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: Go talk to him, go beat you and and and 193 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: that's all. 194 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 5: You know, you got the hands down pat. Yeah. 195 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, he's a great motivator. 196 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 5: Yeah he really is. He really is. 197 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: So you you you were digging e c W as 198 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: a kid, Did you always know you wanted to be 199 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 4: a wrestler, like from. 200 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, now now you're talking about e c W. 201 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: I'm digging you, guys because even when I went into 202 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: law enforcement, uh straight out of high school, I went 203 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: to there. 204 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: I was an officer for ten excuse for five years. 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, and so when I came home, uh here 206 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, I come home, it's you know, midnight. I 207 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: may have had my raw or you know, night show 208 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: may have had that recording on the VCR, and by 209 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: the time I get done with my shower and stuff, 210 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: I may have fast forward and watch what I wanted 211 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: to watch. Guess what's coming on at one or two 212 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: am in the morning on the. 213 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 5: S we had the worst time slots. 214 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: It was great. 215 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: I stayed up to watch it. You guys are coming 216 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: on on the Sunshine net Work at freaking one and 217 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, right out anyway, So okay, 218 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 2: let me sit here and watch it. But n w 219 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: A man, And that's that's the other flip side. I 220 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: grew up watching loving n. 221 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: W A, and and here I am. N n w 222 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: A had the opportunity. Dusty Dusty was my guy. 223 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Okay, everybody knows Dusty Rose, Yes, everybody knows his influence 224 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: on me. 225 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: I got a chance to work with him hands on 226 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: in WWE. 227 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: Yes. 228 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: I remember when I walked in there with my suitcase 229 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: and here comes the dream walking down, you know, through 230 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: the corridor, and I just freeze I'm right by catering 231 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: I freeze to come to Dream. I'm like, Okay, what 232 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: am I going to do? What am I going to say? 233 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: How do I react? How do I respond? So as 234 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: he got near me, I go, hey, Dream, Elijah Burd, 235 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. He goes, put that hand out 236 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: the way. Boy, I know all about you. 237 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: I love that. 238 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah you and now we're gonna make a lot of 239 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: money together. 240 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: And yeah, So to watch this guy to be influenced 241 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: by this guy, you. 242 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Know, we didn't have. 243 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: Any black heroes at that time in wrestling, have any 244 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: black world champions? Dustin Rose was the closest to a 245 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: black world champion that a black. 246 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 5: Guy had because of Sapphire. 247 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: Oh we're talking rap. He had it. 248 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: He had it down. 249 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, when he said when he's when he said, your 250 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: hand reach out right now, your hand. 251 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 5: Talked. 252 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're missing a point. Though. 253 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: Dusty was like a Southern Baptist. Yes, and you've been 254 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: from up where you are, you probably wouldn't get that. 255 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: You know, it probably wouldn't resonate with you the way 256 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: that it does with us down here, you know what 257 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So yeah, so Dusty had that and not 258 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: just that he was charismatic. Dusty was influenced by Muhammad 259 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: Ali as well, you know what I'm saying. So he 260 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: took a lot of Muhammad Ali's rap and applied to 261 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: his game. 262 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 5: Okay, I see where you're coming from. 263 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm too sweet, babe power. 264 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, you took all that stuff from a Yeah. 265 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 2: So we resonated with dust Rose, the American dream, the 266 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: common man. We resonated with the fact you know that 267 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: he the whether you're black, whether you're white, you're big 268 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: and small. 269 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: We we got it. 270 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: And Dusty just had that connection, not just with one race, 271 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: but with everybody. 272 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: Everybody, brought everybody together. 273 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: That's why he's so beloved. Yeah. 274 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And he taught me the figure four because I 275 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: had to do it too. We worked a program with him, 276 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: and uh, it was I think it was me Dreamer, 277 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: somebody else. I can't remember. Oh maybe Terry funk I 278 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: I don't remember. And it was no, it was me, 279 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: It was dust and Dusty, But then it was Korea. Yeah, No, 280 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it was we baby case. So is there 281 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: three of us against Corino, Jack Victory and somebody else. 282 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: But we all did the figure fours in the ring. 283 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: And I had to give it to Steve Carrino. So 284 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: before the show, Dusty took me in there let me 285 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: do it to him a couple of times. 286 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was so cute. He says, honey, you 287 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 5: do it better than I do. 288 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't think so, but thank 289 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: you anyway. But he was great to work with and 290 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: he was such a doll. 291 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: And then he was the guy that when I got 292 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: up there, as I said, I remember, uh, you know, 293 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: I've never had a problem talking. 294 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: You know. 295 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: They brought me in, actually they brought me up. I 296 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: was going to be a member of the Spirits squad. 297 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know this news flash. 298 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 5: You heard it here first. 299 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: Man, that was a big deal because that was, yeah 300 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: that I remember that highly speculated back then. 301 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to be a member of the 302 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Spirits squad. It was Bence McMahon's idea. 303 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: My dear, we're gonna make a lot of money, a 304 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: lot of money. 305 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: I didn't take the offer. I declined. 306 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 5: Everybody's telling you you're gonna make a lot of money, though. 307 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: And everybody gave me a lot of hell, a lot. 308 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 4: Of Wait a minute, you decline this McMahon tells you, 309 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: I want you to be on the Spirit and you say, no, sir, 310 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: thank you. 311 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 5: Is that career suicide. 312 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: In a way, that's what a lot of people thought. Okay, 313 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: but but but here's the thing with Vince. He clearly 314 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: told us it's my idea. I'm riding on my jet 315 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: and I say to myself, what can And all of 316 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: a sudden, I thought male cheerleaders. Everybody hates cheerleaders. He said, 317 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: So this is not from the writing team. He's he's 318 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: talking to us like this. It was only four of us. 319 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: Not it wasn't five. It was four me, Ken doone, uh, 320 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: Nick Niman and Nick Mitchell. That was the four original 321 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: for the Spirit Squad says, I don't want you to 322 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: do it if you not comfortable with it. But I'm 323 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: telling you immediately, you're finna make the most money you've 324 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: ever made in your life. 325 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: And those guys did. Here's the thing. 326 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: You know, I'm an athletic black guy, but and I 327 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: know I was going to stand out. I know I 328 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: can work, and I was the only black guy, so 329 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: I knew I was going to stand out, and I 330 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: was not comfortable going out there and put your in 331 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: a male cheerleader. And to those guys credit, you know, 332 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm not finna be running down, jumping off with a 333 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: trampoline and over the top rope and killed myself either. 334 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 4: So you think the gimmick was too silly or too 335 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 4: corny for you, I mean, did you aspire to be 336 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 4: something bigger that that too? Uh? 337 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: It was? 338 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: It was goofy, but it was gonna again. He put 339 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: money in front of us. It was a goofy gimmick. 340 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: I'm thinking career longevity, okay, where you know I'm not. 341 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to be here for a minute. I 342 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: want to have a career. I want to have a 343 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: twenty plus year career and and be one of the greats. 344 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: And I didn't see that as I saw it as 345 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: a money making right now opportunity. 346 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: But it was not something. 347 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 2: I mean, nobody talks about the Spirit Squad today and 348 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: they had they had lined multiple Biger views with this 349 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: mcmon Immediately they second Vince McMahon when he fought Sean 350 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: Michaels and god they went and won the title. They 351 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: defeated and are lost to Rick Flair Roddy Piper. The 352 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: guys were all over the place doing everything with Vince 353 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: McMahon d X. But once it was done, they put 354 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: him in a crate. Literally literally they put him on 355 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: a crate. 356 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 5: Come to it end. 357 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: But still and that's and so they came to an end, 358 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: and Elijah Burke began. 359 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: Did you get heat for saying? 360 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: No? 361 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: Of course? 362 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: Of course? 363 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 5: How long? Did I mean? Was it like? 364 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: How long? 365 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: One of the one of the top guys up there 366 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: at the time, and and legend dairy and you know, 367 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: I won't. 368 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: Say his name now because I gotta save it. 369 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 4: From a book, Okay, but you know, you. 370 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: Know I was actually sharing this story with two of 371 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: my good friends, Christmasters and JTG right behind you. Yeah, 372 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: I was sharting when we were talking. And when we're 373 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: in developmental, they pull you and have you drive to 374 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: shows that were within hours of driving, you know. So 375 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: like we were in Louisville, so I think it was Cincinnati, 376 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: So we had to go to Cincinnati and or maybe Tennessee, 377 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: but I believe it was Cincinnati hour and a half away. 378 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: So and got there and asked customary. All the young 379 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: guys got to go shake the main guy's hands, you know, 380 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: certainly the main guy. 381 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: You know, hey, thank you thank you for being here. Whatever. 382 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: And I go to one of the guys not tak her, 383 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: obviously not taking her, go to shake. 384 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: His hand and then he goes, all right, okay, hey. 385 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: Uh, I'm like, yo, what's going on? And he's like, 386 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: you said no? O, like like what you need? You 387 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: said no? You said no, and you're still here. A 388 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: lot of people don't get taken chances and you're still here. 389 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: Like what hell? Dustin Roses over there? This is like 390 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: it's fourth run. What do you mean. 391 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: Yourself? 392 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: Wait where you're smart too. 393 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: There's two things in there that that are kind of funny. 394 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: So you were replaced by Mitch in the Spirit squad, 395 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 3: who had nothing to do. 396 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: No, I don't mean to cut you off. 397 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: No, no, go ahead. 398 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: I was replaced by two guys. It went from four 399 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: guys to five guys. I was replaced by Johnny Jeter. 400 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: And okay, okay, so Mitch was already in the lineup. 401 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, So me saying no opened the door for the 402 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: and they thanked me. You're lost, but they thank me. 403 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: The other point was that when they threw him in 404 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: the box, they threw a stamp on the side of 405 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: it that says back to. 406 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: O b W. Well, yeah, and only two of those 407 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: guys survived momentarily that was Kende, who still to this day. 408 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: But certainly then he was such a young prodigy. 409 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: Uh maybe didn't have the might skills that Vent's like, 410 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: maybe didn't have necessarily. Look, the boy just was I 411 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: love Kendo. He is a athletic guy. And and he 412 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: they tried to give him a little singles run and 413 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: and and then Dolph. 414 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 5: Ziggler, he's still kicking? 415 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Who was still kicking? He went down, He stayed in 416 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: the territory. 417 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: He went left from OBIW and got a new life, 418 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: went to f c W at the time, which is 419 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: down at Florida. 420 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 5: To Florida. 421 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and. 422 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: He just he stuck it out, reinvented himself, died his hair, 423 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: got the dogs. Sigler character and his talent could not 424 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: be denied, even though even to this day is suppressed. 425 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 2: You probably don't even know that the man's a former 426 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: world champion. 427 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 5: Oh I knew that to do that. 428 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: Okay, they don't even acknowledge. 429 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: But I understand what you're saying. But for me, like 430 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 4: listening to your story, like I always had respect for you, 431 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: because I mean, we've been friends for a while, and 432 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 4: I admire your work and everything. This makes me respect 433 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: you so much more because you don't hear a lot 434 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: of people say no, I'm not gonna do that because 435 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: they're so scared of like losing their job or being 436 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 4: blackballed from the business. So you had the balls to 437 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: tell Vince McMahon, I'm not gonna do this. 438 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Respect actually absolutely. 439 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 5: I mean that takes a lot of courage. So kudos 440 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: to you. 441 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: Well, you know, and I tell people, include some of 442 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: the guys that I've been in the ring with. You know, 443 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: I was officer for five years. I boxed for three years. 444 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: I got a record of one old I got I 445 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: lost one time. I only lost one fight in my life. Okay, 446 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 2: So from a fighting standpoint, I always tell people, uh, 447 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: don't get it twisted. 448 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: Don't fuck with me, you know, because I will mess 449 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: you up. I don't have a problem. 450 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't have to get I didn't get 451 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: the bullying. If you will love a JBL you know 452 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: those stories are yeah. 453 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, Because I just read Justin Roberts book, right holy. 454 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: He gave me the book three years ago, but I 455 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 4: just read it on the plane wing because I forgot 456 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 4: about it. 457 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: To be honest, you won't be getting. 458 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 4: Read right away seriously, but it's I mean, it's a 459 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: sad story because Justin's one of the nicest people out there, 460 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 4: and to read about the hazing and the bullying, like 461 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 4: we had a discussion before, I don't understand why this 462 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: needed to be done. I can understand if you're being 463 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: an asshole to somebody and this is going to be 464 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: the way that they you know, they get you back 465 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: for it. But if you're a nice kid and you're 466 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 4: doing your job and you're respectful and you're a good 467 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: work why do you have to be hazed like that? 468 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: I think it was just a culture of wrestling at 469 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: It's just like it was very much so, and you know, 470 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: it was a college atmosphere. We won't even talk about you. 471 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 5: I know, I know, but I'm glad you didn't have 472 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 5: to go through all of that. 473 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 2: Well. I mean, where I'm from, we say something like 474 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: I wish up, would you know what I'm saying? 475 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 5: A person like you wouldn't have taken that, of course not. 476 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you can't walk around with 477 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: your your butt cheets clinched, you know, because when you 478 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 2: clinch your butt cheeks. Yeah, well, well, when you clinch 479 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: your butt cheets, your pants, your shorts, your skirt, your 480 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: material is going to get caught up in between the cracks. Therefore, 481 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: everybody knows your butt cheets or clinch. Analogy there is 482 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: you just got to be loose. 483 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: Oh if you just said if. 484 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: You stay loose, but there's no challenge, there's no there's no. 485 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: There's no encouragement to try to go up in there, 486 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: that's right. 487 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: But when when you clinched and it's tight, it's like, okay, 488 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: I got to get up in that right there. 489 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm learning so much today, right, And. 490 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: So that's what you did that. 491 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: They did that to those who walked around with their 492 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: you know, and they were just two uptight and whatnot. 493 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: It's more so as a I don't I don't know 494 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: justice issue. I'm not I'm not justifying anything because I 495 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: haven't read that book. What I'm saying is I know 496 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: that even in my days of coming up, you know, 497 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: we did the same thing, not to a bullying degree. 498 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: But you're gonna sell a joke to a guy to 499 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: see how they take the joke. 500 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's breaking up, you know, that's you know, breaking 501 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: the ice all the other stuff. I got in the 502 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: ring with Bob Holly as soon as I got up there. 503 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: We're in Australia or New Zealand, whichever it was. We're 504 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: doing the SmackDown. 505 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: Oh my, got my phones along. 506 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: We're doing the SmackDown ECW sorry, smack Down e CW. 507 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: Tour and we got this huge battle roll with SmackDown 508 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: and Raw at ec way And this is my first 509 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: time in the ring with Bob Holly. 510 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: You know what I did as I as as that 511 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: Battle Royal starts, I fight my way over to Bob 512 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: Hawk and I said, Bob shop me. Bob was beating 513 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: up someone and he stops and goes and then the 514 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: guy just leaves. 515 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: He's like what. 516 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just leaves and and Bob freezes and he goes, 517 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: what I said, chop me, And he goes all right, 518 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: and he puts me in the corner and he gives. 519 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: Me a chop. 520 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: Right, it wasn't his best chop, but I sold it 521 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: like a million dollars. And then I tried to leave 522 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: and he goes come back and he gets another chop, 523 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: so I tried to go the other way. He grabs 524 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: me again. You know those uh you know the scaffold 525 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: things that they have around the. 526 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: Rings with the lights when you're Yeah. 527 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: I climbed up and the whole out place pop. Now, 528 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 2: now you may ask, well, why did you do that? 529 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: It was because I was him. Know I can take 530 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: what he gives me. I'm not afraid of him. 531 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 5: Right and afterwards did he come up to you? 532 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: It was he loved it. He loved it. I know 533 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: him all over the place. 534 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna pull over time and dreamer and stances 535 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: issues up today. But he was my favorite E c 536 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: W guy. But going back to to the bullying aspect, 537 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: Bully Ray Okay, yeah, I told you, Papa, go in 538 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: the woods, but I'll come back. 539 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 5: Out where were going. 540 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: Billy Ray comes to t NA. Okay, and him and 541 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: and and uh mh, I'm a top babyface there. We're 542 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna do a six man tag. 543 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: They got their student Jesse and Neal with them, and 544 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: I'm with Homicide and Matt Morgan, but uh the other 545 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: Hernandez thank you sir. So all three of us are 546 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: going to take on those two. Those three, I get 547 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: tagged in Bullyard. This is my first time in the 548 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: ring with Bully Ray, we lock up, we do a 549 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: little something something, I think, but it all came down 550 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: to that. No, we didn't even lock up. We still 551 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: face to face and the crowd is chatting. 552 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Spampinpin. 553 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: You know what Bully Ray did. He slapped the piss 554 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: out of me. You know what I did? 555 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 5: Oh no, oh no, I. 556 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: S I shoot double legged. 557 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 5: Him, Oh you did? Oh wow? 558 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: And I punched him right on top of his eye, 559 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: one good punch. Well, I'm all look at that point, 560 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: I'm three to four years professional and professional professional on TV. 561 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: I know how this works. 562 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: But you know when I double legged him and I 563 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: hit him, I didn't. I mean I didn't again, nothing hard, 564 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: but I hit him. 565 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: You know what he was. 566 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: Doing when I was on top of him, he was saying, 567 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: you know what because he was seeing where I was. 568 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: He was testing me. After it was over with, look 569 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: what you did to my eye? You sell them a beat? 570 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 5: Right? 571 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: I love he loved it. 572 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: He's like I wish I could get other people to 573 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: react to, you know, emotionally respond accordingly. Right. I didn't 574 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: stand there and wait for him to say, Okay, this 575 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: is what we're going to do after you just slapped 576 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: the pists out of my mouth. No, I'm coming at you. 577 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: He rolled out, and then we resigned. 578 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: Okay, that's how you do it. 579 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 5: That's how you do it. 580 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: Well, now let me take it to today because you 581 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 4: mentioned n w A and you were blowing it up. 582 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 5: Sir. 583 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: Oh by the way, he had to tell me in 584 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 4: Fort Wayne that he was the main event. Forgot to 585 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: mention that, I said, I said, hey, you working tonight? 586 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 4: Just very innocently main event, I said, because we start 587 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: sure where you were on the park, you know? 588 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: Oh? 589 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: No, it was It was more. 590 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: Like in the room now with old friend and when 591 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: she sees Pop, everything is Pope being sexy, you. 592 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: Know, Is that what it is? No, it wasn't. 593 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, main event, which meant that, and 594 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: she's like, oh wow. 595 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 7: So long you know, Like I was like to go too, yeah, 596 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 7: said I said, well, I'm not booked on that, and 597 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 7: the main event is going to go on at twelve 598 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 7: pm later. 599 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 4: Tell us about n w A. Now, how did you 600 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 4: get involved? Did you reach out to Billy? Did they 601 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 4: reach out to you? 602 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: No? 603 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 5: Okay, what happened? 604 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: I was I was sitting right here, okay here but home, and. 605 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: I was watching the first season of n W A 606 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: Power And again we're talking coming full circle as a 607 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: kid sitting watching n W eight Power Hour and watching 608 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: Dusty player Arn and the TV title that I you know, 609 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: I'm the sixth longest reign in the world television champion 610 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: in the. 611 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: History, not the seventh, but the sixth. 612 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Six. 613 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: It means a lot because you got you got Tudy 614 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: Blancher at number one. Excuse me, Paul Jones at number one, 615 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: Tudy blanche at number two, Mike Rotundo at number three, 616 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: On Anderson number four, Steve Auston at number five. 617 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm proud of that. 618 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 5: You should be. And by Mike Rotundo is my mom's 619 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 5: favorite wrestler. 620 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: Just want to let you know. 621 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 5: He's so cute and my mom's ninety one years old. 622 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, please continue. 623 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: So anyways to I'm watching n W A Power. 624 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: I'm seeing this, you know, one hour show on YouTube 625 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: and I'm just the only wrestling show and I do 626 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: my podcast post Point of View with Elijah Burke. 627 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: I'll get you on there soon. 628 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: But I'm watching and I'm like, man, this is entertaining. 629 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: This is wrestling. It's not all the skits and all 630 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: of It's just wrestling the way that I remember wrestling 631 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: being with a new school feel to it. It's old 632 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: school wrestling with a new school feel. It's wrestling. And 633 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: you'll get a dive maybe on the pay. 634 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: Per view here and there. 635 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: You know, you ain't getting all the over the ropes 636 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: and crazy. It's just wrestling. I loved it, and it 637 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: was entertaining so much entertaining that I would sit and 638 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: watching the commercials. The commercials were entertaining really okay, yeah, 639 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: because the commercials were their own in commercials, which were 640 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: which was ridiculously funny. 641 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: The city. 642 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: You know, they would have like I'm Madam Ruby, and 643 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, get to w a power, I reach your future. 644 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 4: Like a flashback to whatever year it was they were recreating. 645 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: No, they just created. They created it in an old school. 646 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was saying. 647 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: Right. It was great, and so I'm a fan. I'm 648 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: watching it. 649 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: It's the only wrestling at the time that I can 650 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: sit and watch one without fast forwarding, without losing my 651 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: attention span. 652 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: And after the first season, I got a call from 653 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: n W A say hey, and I'm like hey, like 654 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: you know hey. 655 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: They're like like so, uh, you're tied up or anything. 656 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, h what do you think have you 657 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: seen it? I'm like, yeah, I'll watch you guys. I 658 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: love it. What do you think about coming to join us? 659 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 4: No problem? 660 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: Crazy part. 661 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: It happens all the time, much like with WWE when 662 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: I was bought in. I was bought in to be 663 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: the mouthpiece for semester turcaie girl, I'm the interview when 664 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: you bring popol, you got somebody that can just talk. 665 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: I need the falls and let you pitch your stuff. 666 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: But I came in. 667 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: I came in with Sadesta Turkai to be his mouthpiece, 668 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: his manager, okay, and then they're like, we're gonna put 669 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: you in the ring. We're gonna put him outside the range. Sure, 670 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: the same thing here I go to NWA. I'm just 671 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 2: the mouthpiece. I'm supposed to be the manager, and somehow, someway, 672 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: they always find a way to get me back in 673 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: the ring because. 674 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 5: They know how talented you are. 675 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. 676 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: And I mean if you sucked, you'd still be on 677 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 4: the outside and with the microphone. 678 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I appreciate that. That's what happened. 679 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: I was a manager and COVID hit like, look, we 680 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 2: want you to back in the ring. 681 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: And now I got a. 682 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: After having that fantastic run with the World Television Champion 683 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: or the championship, now I have the opportunity to become 684 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: the second black man in the seventy three year history 685 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: of the n WA to become the world's heavyweight champion. 686 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 5: That's very exciting. 687 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: That's mind boy going to me. 688 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 4: So when is there a pay per view coming up 689 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: that you want to plug or what's going on? 690 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 2: Well right now next week October twenty fourth. I don't 691 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: know when you guys listen to this, but we're going 692 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 2: to be an Oak Grove, Kentucky. We're going to be 693 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: doing especially being an Oak Growth Kentucky WA by enemies necessary. 694 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: I won't be taking on one of your friends' sons. 695 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 2: Kobe Corrino. 696 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, yes, So. 697 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm you know Kobe Carino. 698 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: He's young, Like I said, he's he's brash, he's ahead 699 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: of his class. 700 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: Give him the whooping that Steve Corrino should have. 701 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 5: Put on him. Okay, iby ever since he was a baby. 702 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, and a good good kid. 703 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 5: He's a good kid and funny quick story. 704 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 4: Steve used to bring him on the road sometimes, and 705 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 4: we'd be in the locker room, you know, and he'd 706 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 4: be he is a little like one two years old, 707 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 4: and I don't know why he was naked. 708 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 5: But Colby was naked and he came over to me 709 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 5: and he put his penis on my shoulder. Yeah, and 710 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 5: I said, hey, now, son. 711 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 4: He just started cracking up, laughing, and Colby was laughing 712 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 4: and uh, I don't know. I think i'd put a 713 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 4: towel around the resulting. But they started young. No, and 714 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 4: now look at him. I remember when Kobe put his 715 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 4: penis on my shoulder, and Sadman also did that when 716 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 4: he was drunk in Pensacola, Florida. 717 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: I was just about to say, you know how many 718 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 2: people wish they were Kobe Karino at that time. 719 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 4: I just said excuse me a little one. And then 720 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 4: with Samy and I I didn't even sell it. I said, sir, 721 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 4: get that off me right now. He was so drunk 722 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 4: he was. And it's on it's on DVD. It's when 723 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 4: Samon gets naked and pen to Cold Florida. If you 724 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 4: look it up, you're lying. No, he's naked in the 725 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 4: center of the ring. He takes off all his clothes. 726 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 4: He was bombed, he was obliviated, and he was started 727 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 4: drinking as soon as we got to the building. 728 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 5: It was a house shell, you know. But his penis 729 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 5: ended up here and I just saw. 730 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 4: I said, get that off me right now, and he 731 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 4: did and walked away, and I was. 732 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: Just like, oh, listen, I love that. 733 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 5: I do do. I don't love his penis on my shoulder. 734 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: I agree. 735 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: I'm just saying like, you have the opportunity to work 736 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: with you guys. First, have me finished his Bucks Necessary, 737 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: Toby to Willing both and Oak Rogue, and then Hard 738 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 2: Times Too, Hard Times Pay per View NWA, December the fourth, 739 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: in Atlanta, GA. I don't know what the plans are. 740 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 2: I know there's one man that runs the show literally 741 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 2: and we're grateful for him. His name is Billy Cogan. 742 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: So to have Billy Cogan, you know, just making his 743 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: own decisions, that's great. I have the title opportunity that 744 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: I can cash in at any time. 745 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm beginning to feel. 746 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 2: Like Hot Times is going to be that time for 747 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: yours truly. 748 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 5: Might be the time to cash that taken in. 749 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: Might be so, So there, you guys, go and we'll 750 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: do another round and taping as well. 751 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: But let me talk about Hack real quick before I 752 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: toss it back to you, girl. Hack you. 753 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: Hack Tommy Dreamer, who was my again, we both loved 754 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 2: dream I didn't know he was a dream guy and 755 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: that's why he became Dreamer. But I love Tommy Dreamer. 756 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 2: He actually hired me to w W. How about that first. 757 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 5: Crazy Yep, you never know who you're gonna work with 758 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 5: in this business. 759 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: I know this my favorite c W guys who hired me. 760 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 2: I have worked with you, Rob Van Damn good old Balls. 761 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: And Mahoney who love balls in Yes, knew Jack. 762 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: They worked with him but had but me and him 763 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: were like cool every time we came from each other. 764 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: And the list goes on. So to be in there 765 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: with you, guys, Sabu, you know who was just as 766 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: crazy then as he was back when, it is truly 767 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 2: an honor. And and to have a respected friendship with 768 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: you as well, who always brings out the boy and 769 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 2: me like gosh, always you are. I'm not lying to you, 770 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 2: you best Black. Pope's a big boy now. 771 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: I know you are, sir, And and Pope's growing by 772 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: the minute. 773 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 5: His milk and taking his vitamins. 774 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you took it that way, and I 775 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: hope everybody else did. 776 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 5: That's the only lay. 777 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: Well. 778 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I much love to you, girl. I have nothing 779 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 2: you are. Let me shut the story for your fans, 780 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: and then I'm going to shut up. When me and 781 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: Francine started, gosh, it's two hours already. When me and 782 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: Francine started with working together in w W E c W, 783 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 2: and I met her around the ring. It was my 784 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: first time introducing myself to Francine at ringside that's. 785 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: Where we first met. Remember, oh, don't worry, you know. 786 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 2: And she she was she was a little bit I 787 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: don't want I don't know if you were shy of 788 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: just being because of the environment up there. 789 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: I just no, no, not shot for me, I mean 790 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: shot period. Yes. 791 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 2: So I came around. I'm like, it's Francine. I'm finna 792 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 2: go talk to her. I'm going to introduce myself. And 793 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 2: I went to shake your hand because they would getting 794 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: some entering stuff together with the girls, and you had 795 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: to be out there. I see him so and so, 796 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 2: and you turned around. It's like and your eyes are 797 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 2: those big eyes? Just hi, o, God, nice to meet you. 798 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 2: And I just it just melted me on the inside. 799 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 2: I've never it just melted me, like your your look 800 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 2: like it's just like, Okay, I'm here. I don't know 801 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 2: what this is. I know what it is, but I 802 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 2: don't know what this place is. 803 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: It's not my E c W. 804 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 5: But I want to make it work and I tried. 805 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 2: I don't know who you are, but nice to meet you. 806 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 2: Oh no, but it was so Yeah, it made my day. 807 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 2: So every time I come into your presence, I feel 808 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 2: like it's two thousand and six seven all over again. 809 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 5: God adorable. I can't, I can't. 810 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: Don't try me. 811 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: Don't push me, I said popes ain't no homewreak, but 812 00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: don't push me. 813 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 1: Girl, you are. I can. 814 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 5: Give me some where can sign you? 815 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hey, listen, I'm behaving here because I'm. 816 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 2: On camera boy to full Pope mode when I get 817 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: friend see over on post Front of You Podcasts with 818 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: Elijah Burke, which you can find wherever it is you 819 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 2: listen to your podcast at Apple, Spotify, Citrus, Spreaker, Our 820 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 2: Heart Radio, Google Play, and the list goes on. You 821 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 2: can also catch up with your boy on Twitter and 822 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 2: Instagram at the Black Pope that's at DA not the 823 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 2: du Black Pope. You can follow me on Facebook as well, Facebook, 824 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 2: dot Com, Slash, Elijah Burke, and I got Twitch coming soon. 825 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: But you guys will be updated on all of that 826 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 1: and real quick. 827 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 5: Your charity, that's where your boy was going. 828 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Franny. My charity's tenth year anniversary is actually 829 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: coming up January the eighth. 830 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: We will be celebrating Serve in the community of Jacksonville 831 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 2: for ten. 832 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: Years. 833 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 2: This is our big annual event and we follow up 834 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 2: our again. We feed people frying. We don't feed them 835 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 2: out of a brown paper bag. We don't feed them 836 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 2: out of a soup truck. 837 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 1: Oh man. 838 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 2: We go down to Burger King in the center of 839 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 2: the homeless community in Jacksonville, and we ordered straight out 840 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: of Burger King where we got three, four or five 841 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 2: hundred people on mean, you know, any given day lined 842 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: up and we feed them the stuff that sometimes we 843 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 2: take for granted, because you know, I've seen people eat 844 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 2: half of a burger and then throw it in the trash, 845 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 2: and I saw a man walking to that same trash, 846 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 2: pull that bag and he ate it. That's when I 847 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 2: started my charity. That's when I said, you know, we 848 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 2: got we can do better. 849 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: We can do better. 850 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: So tip the anniversary is gonna be January the eighth. Guys, 851 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 2: you can head over to Love Thatashall Live and you 852 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 2: can learn all about my charity. You can see what 853 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 2: Pope's doing in the community. You can also donate on 854 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 2: that very same website. One dollar help makes the difference. 855 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 2: We just want to be the change that we wish 856 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: to see in the world. And if you want to 857 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 2: see it, because I make sure you guys see where 858 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 2: your money go, you can go over to Pope TV 859 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: and just scroll through and you'll see some of the 860 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 2: love a lot of charity advents. You'll see the people 861 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: line up, whether the homeless or not, if they stand 862 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: in line for hours. 863 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: They need it. 864 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: We give it clothes, shoes, hygiene products, book back for 865 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 2: kids filled with essentials to help them achieve academic success, 866 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 2: and the list goes on. 867 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 5: I love it. I love it. That's the one thing 868 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 5: I said when I get him on the show, I have. 869 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 4: To talk about that charity because it's wonderful what you 870 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 4: guys are doing down there, and I'm just so proud 871 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 4: of you. You're doing everything. You got it all going 872 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 4: on right now. 873 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 5: And you look good doing it, kiddo, So kudos to 874 00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 5: my friend. 875 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 1: Love it when you call me, when you call. 876 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 5: Elijah, good luck with n w A. 877 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 2: It's like you're well saying daddy, thank you. 878 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 5: You know, I hate that daddy. 879 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 3: We were talking about. 880 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 4: We did a sex quiz because we do Patreon the extras, 881 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 4: you know, and we get a little a little more 882 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 4: raunchy on the other shows that we do, right, because 883 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 4: you have to pay for those. 884 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 5: And the word daddy makes me cringe. I don't like it. 885 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 5: You make your women call you daddy. 886 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: No, no, no, daddy, that's d A d d e 887 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: h daddy. 888 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't it the same thing? 889 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: No, no, it's not. 890 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 5: Different. How is it different? 891 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 2: Well, well, because daddy is is a paternal term and 892 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 2: a sexual term. Pope says daddy to everybody. Oh, daddy 893 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 2: is more of a slang. 894 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 5: That never said that to me. That's what I'm all right. 895 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, your friend a girls, daddy, little girls, come up, 896 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 2: give me some dap daddy. 897 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: You know that's what that's what. 898 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 5: It must be. Because I live up here and you're 899 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 5: down there. 900 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: You don't you don't get you get alive. 901 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 4: You see, I get Okay, I get the real the 902 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 4: real stuff. 903 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: If you got Pope, you walk different. 904 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 3: All right, this. 905 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 5: Was a treat. Thank you for coming on and for 906 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 5: only being eleven minutes late. I appreciate it. 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