1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Ye, wrapper it up podcast. Elly, we'll see what's up baby. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: We got a baby in the building. Black. What's going on, sir? 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: And that's your lovely thought of course six six six goddess. 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: I know why she see it. Man, you guys have 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: the RV album of the year so far, and we 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: want to talk about that cover in particular. Man, you 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: guys are on the cover together. Man about to say 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: she might she might say something like throughout this, she 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: might not make it through the whole thing. We're gonna see. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: We'll figure out talk about that album cover. When I 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: first saw it, I was like wow, Like it's just 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: it's powerful on so many different levels, Like how did 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: you come up with that? Idea? To the cover? Was 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: just like a random father's to day shoot, just walking 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: around this house in l A. They were just taking pictures, 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: so we weren't really shooting for the album. We were 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: just taking pictures. And when it came time to figure 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: out the album cover and just kind of going through 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: like options that we already had, and I was like, 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's the one right there, Like nothing 21 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: is going to be duper than that picture right there. 22 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: So that's really like you making breakfast making songs that 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: is now more so of a depiction of like, since 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: I've been gone, I barely get those moments with her, 25 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: so like moments like those where I do get that 26 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: second to like have her on me and like move around, 27 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: make music, make breakfast, like whatever it may be. Like, 28 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: that's what I wish I could do every single day. 29 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's be like, well, it looked like a 30 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: house that you know, yeah, you have to run about 31 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: mom first, not about to say yeah, they do a 32 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: ton of photo ships, so yeah, that's crazy now, But 33 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: congrats on the album again. Man, Like I think you 34 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: said somebody with sophomore albums, you know, you looked at 35 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: it from an analytical sample. You said, sometimes people get 36 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: either too confident or a lot of confidence. Right, yeah, 37 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: I think um, as long as you like avoid those 38 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: two things, like you don't get your head too far 39 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: ahead of you know, what's going on, because you might 40 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: have had like a hit single or you know, you 41 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: might be being championed by everybody else. Or as long 42 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: as you don't feel the pressure of what do I 43 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: have to do next to I have to change? Do 44 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 1: I have to impress you know this person that person 45 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: like I kind of stayed in the state of I 46 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: just want to make music. I want to make it 47 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: feels natural. The show progression and like the rest is, 48 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, to figure yourself out. Well, was it important 49 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: to like, you know, have these female female voices kind 50 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: of narrate the album because I was listening you have 51 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Tierra whack on you know, let her go sorry, like 52 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: sink Keysha, even your daughter's mom on seasons No, Now 53 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: that was a mistake. Uh, I don't know how that 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: got on the internet. But um that the last one 55 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: is actually Marie Ba. She's signed inter Scope to. Uh. 56 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: The name used to be Mary and Marie Ba, but 57 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: now it's just Marie Ba. But um, yeah, as far 58 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: as it skitts go one, I didn't have any female 59 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: features as you can see. So for me, the main 60 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: thing was like figuring out how to keep that strong 61 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: female presence. And as I'm like navigating through like all 62 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: these perspectives and like all these different um emotions that 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm running through, I wanted to make sure that I 64 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: offered like an opposite, you know, side of it, or 65 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: you know what the rebuttal might be. So I wanted 66 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: to like kind of infiltrate that and like put that 67 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: in certain parts and just keep the storyline going. So 68 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: would you start knowing into that concept that he was 69 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: going to make the sort of album you said really 70 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: tackles love and the complexity other the language of love. 71 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: And because I saw, like, you know, ent of the 72 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: year you would make saying you had a hundred songs, 73 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: and you know, you obviously been working like when did 74 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: it click that you sort of the shape take form 75 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: of what the concept was going to be. Um as 76 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: soon as we finished the last project, I was probably thinking, well, 77 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: we were trying to figure out what the theme was 78 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: going to be for the next project, and I was 79 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: telling them, like, bro, the last project was everything I 80 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: went through up until that point. I'm going through so much, 81 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: you know right now that I'm just like, there's nothing 82 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: else that I can talk about. There's nothing else I 83 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about. Like, in two years, my life 84 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: went from one side of the spectrum all the way 85 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: to the other side. So and with that, obviously, with success, fame, 86 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: money like comes new problems, you know, new things you 87 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: gotta figure out. Uh, And yeah, that was pretty much it. 88 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: I was just trying to presently capture what I was 89 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: going through then when I think too far trying to 90 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: figure out anything, you know, to left field a creative 91 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: or like it's like talk about what you're going through. 92 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: People want to hear it. They only ever got a 93 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: loving songs from you, so that you know they aren't 94 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: tired of you. Just extend a story. You talk about 95 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: new problems. Man, I was listening to Load of Gun. 96 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: You talk about how more money, more problems, and like, 97 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, people coming up to you asking for things 98 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: and things like have to ask increase since the last 99 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: for sure, And for sure I think like the perception 100 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: of of success is a thing for everybody back home, 101 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: and you know, the people that you kind of grew 102 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: up with and came up with, whether it be family, friends, like, 103 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: they don't really understand that just because you know, I 104 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: quote unquote made it that money isn't like forever, you know, 105 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: like it isn't endless. You know, I haven't made it 106 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: to the point where I can like kick back and 107 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: be like all right, you know you're taking care of 108 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: you taking care of You're taking care of like now 109 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: we're good. I'm still working, you know, to make sure 110 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: that once I get to that point, then I could, 111 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, make sure mom is straight, and make sure 112 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: you know that the team is straight, make sure everybody 113 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: else is straight. So the request they increase cash cash 114 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: app is like my my worst enemy right now. It's 115 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: so easy to give me money black back when it 116 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: was Western Union and you know stuff like that. I 117 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: could be like, you know, give me a couple of 118 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: days or it's gonna take them in the cash apps 119 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: like no, I need it like before five o'clock, or 120 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: I'm getting big fans like cash after I thought to go, yeah, 121 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: you see stuff like that is rare, Like they don't 122 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm going now they now that I did that, my 123 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: d M is full of like can you send me 124 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: four hundred dollars footlah blah blah blah blah. So um yeah, 125 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: that was some fans coming from Florida. They were trying 126 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: to get to the drive through. It's like yeah, yeah, 127 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: yeah to drive in. They were just like, yeah, we 128 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: want to come up there. You don't have don't gas money. 129 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: I just happen to see it. I was like, cool, 130 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: just send me a cashop because it wasn't hard to 131 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: say no though. Um to family and friends, Yeah yeah, 132 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: and I have business managers. So his biggest thing is 133 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: like budgeting that and making sure like, Okay, you know, 134 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: clearly you gotta take care of your people, but you know, 135 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: don't ever get into a habit that you can't like 136 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: keep up with or don't ever you know, do something 137 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: that it's just gonna like not benefit you in the 138 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: long run. So his job is to make sure I 139 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: don't go broke, and my job is, you know, to 140 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: make sure everybody's comfortable in some kind of way speaking 141 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: to your team. Feel like, as much as praise has 142 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: been with the album, it's also been praised around the 143 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: whole rollout of the album. Man, you know, the execution 144 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: of it. Like you mentioned you debuted this driving in Atlanta, 145 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, talk about some of these ideas and how 146 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: did this all take for him to just make sure 147 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: this is presented the right way. Rollouts are a lost cause, 148 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: especially with like new artists. I think we kind of 149 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: put our projects together, throw them out, you know, whatever 150 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: happens happens or like surprise drops or the new rollout. 151 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: So it's just like you know, they they kind of 152 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: bank on impulse to to make the music splash. And 153 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: for us, when I introduced myself to the world. It 154 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: was like a photo shoot and it was a hairstyle, 155 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: and it was a color theme and it was you know, 156 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: like the Bear. It was like all these things to 157 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: where people like had to pay attention to something other 158 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: than you know, the music. So with this rollout, we 159 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: were like, how can we make it Atlanta, but make 160 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: it you know for everybody. The drive in is a 161 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: place that everybody in Atlanta has been to it if 162 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: you were on my side of town, Like people got 163 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: in the trunk to sneak into the drive you know. 164 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: So that was one of the places we did Magic 165 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: City in l A. Man about to say they might 166 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: have to step out for this, and I don't want 167 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: to talk about this right now, l A. They've never 168 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: seen anything like that ever. So yeah, Magic City was 169 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: really dope. But back to the driving. You was having 170 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: so much fun you ended up like jumping to people's 171 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: cars and stuff. So they like listening to They listened 172 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: to the album bobeing out. I'm like walking through um 173 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: the grass, like hopping in random cars. People turning around 174 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: like who in my car? And then they look and 175 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: they're like, oh ship. I'm like, you know, just keep listening. 176 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: To keep listening. I'm in the back seat, vibe and 177 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: chilling um, kicking it in trunks. I'm like just walking 178 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: around because at the end of the day, like what 179 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to to instill in Atlanta, especially since most 180 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: of them saw my come up, was I'm still a 181 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: regular person and I always want to be a regular 182 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: person and anything I do, you know, anything I can 183 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: do to make sure you guys know that, Like, That's 184 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. So I see that last time 185 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: in social media, they'll be something like I went to 186 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: third grade with the freestyle and class. You know what 187 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know you're from where elementary school. Man, 188 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: I got like super just extensive ties in Atlanta, and 189 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: I moved around so much and like it was in 190 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: so many different neighborhoods and classes and schools. Like so 191 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: when I did my Tabernacle show in Atlanta, when I 192 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: was performing, it wasn't like, yeah, it wasn't like I 193 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: was looking at you know, fans. I was performing and 194 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking at fans here and there, but I'm also 195 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: looking at third grade, elementary school, high school, college, neighborhood. 196 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Like everywhere I looked out saw face you know that 197 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: was familiar to you and g I d come up 198 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: together because I saw a tweet that he said that 199 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: you guys performed at some university. Was like people, Yeah, man, man, 200 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: I was sleeping on their couch like before everything kicked off. Yeah, 201 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: I was like couch from everywhere, But that was like 202 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: one of the last couches that I got to before. 203 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: You know, everybody ended up doing their things. So I'll 204 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: be at jaz crib and he would have his mic 205 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: set up with as I'm at we record record record. 206 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: We probably made like to three mixtapes worth the music, 207 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: and um, I ended up doing my thing, he ended 208 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: up doing his thing. We both ended up at in 209 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: the scope. It's crazy I worked out right, It's crazy, 210 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: I said even out of that. You met Mac Miller 211 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: during that time, right, so like you expressed time much 212 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: you was. You know, we all hurt by his loss, 213 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: but you definitely got to spend some time with him 214 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: in those early days. Yeah, Mac, I actually met for 215 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: the first time just in person when I was at Coachella. 216 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: This was the year before I performed, so I was 217 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: just you know, and a as a as a fan. 218 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: I went show face promote all that but maybe two 219 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: thousand and ten is when Mac first said something to me, 220 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,479 Speaker 1: And that was when I was like in my dorm 221 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, what was next, like 222 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: am I dropping out and my wasting my time? Like 223 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: what am I doing here? And that's when he gave me, 224 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, some words of advice. Just like nothing that's 225 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: ever said back. You know, everything you're going through, everything 226 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: you're doing is just something you know, more to write about, 227 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: more to talk about later. So, speaking of Coachella, you 228 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: mentioned that jay Z and Beyonce you set this year 229 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: and he waited for I'm glad they saw the second weekend, 230 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: first weekend. Everything that could have went wrong went wrong 231 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: from the minute we pressed play like that they that 232 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: counts me down to beat on beat didn't come on, 233 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: so piano comes in, no drums, and I'm just like 234 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: where am I supposed to be right now? And I 235 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: had to, like I ran through the whole entire set 236 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: like that, So I'm like powering through like um one song. 237 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: If you ever look at the footage, I actually was 238 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: like cut because like second verse dropped in, I was 239 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: a little bit off beat and I'm like, yeah, not 240 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: about to make me look like this out here so 241 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: cut that one went to the next song. But everything 242 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: that could have went wrong went wrong. The second weekend 243 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: we came back, everything was perfect, got off stage, You're like, yo, 244 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: J and B. Honest, by the time they said J 245 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: and B, I was like already emotion. I was like 246 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: running backstage. Um, they were chilling on the cart and yeah, 247 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: that's pretty a chill. Yeah, I mean, you know, fan 248 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: of the music, amazing show, and somebody one of my 249 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: guys was actually like recording capturing the moment. And in 250 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: that moment you see J like wave his hand like 251 00:10:52,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: no cameras. Yeah, it's important. We got the footage stuff. 252 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: You got the footage. That was a great shot. Yeah, 253 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: but you also pay me even having future, Like how 254 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: trippy is it to like, you know, to have future 255 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: beyond the title track of this record one of your 256 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: biggest records, thinking like one of his mixtape records, and 257 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: here you get to really collaborate with him. It was 258 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure surprising for the city. I was surprising 259 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: for a lot of people because being in the internet era, 260 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: Like once I flipped his song, you know it was 261 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: it was a halfway between. I loved the new version 262 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: and now it's a future song. So um, most people 263 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: didn't even know what our relationship was. But I had 264 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: seen him in passing maybe about twice before we did 265 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: that song East Lina love Letter, and by the time 266 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: I sent the idea, it was like excitement about just 267 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: being a part of it. You know. It wasn't it 268 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: was no business talks to be had. It was no 269 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: like figuring out anything. It was he loves it, he 270 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: wants to do it, and it was done. Was it 271 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: a strategic move this time? Around? A half features on 272 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: the album, because like the first album was kind of 273 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: mainly you had tea paint. What was the I did 274 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: to have more features and more collaborations this summ around? Um, yeah, 275 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: the first one is me all by myself. And it 276 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: wasn't because I didn't want to work with anybody, but 277 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: just more so I just wanted to show I can 278 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: stand on my own, do my own hooks, cut my 279 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: own records. Uh, you're about to cry, It's all good, yeah, 280 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: hold on, m hm six knows what time is there? 281 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: You go give it a bank card already. But yeah, 282 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to just like invite different fan bases 283 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: into my world. And through Cold, through Future, through Khali 284 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: through Offset, like we got to put a template down 285 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: for for them to do something, to say something they 286 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: might not have done. He set on their songs or 287 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: that album The Pretty Little Fits seems to be a 288 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: big fan favor right now. Yeah for sure. Yep. Jick 289 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: just kept saying like, yo, Cols, the fan wants to meet. 290 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: And eventually I ended up pulling up to the studio. 291 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: We sat down Cole's you know super chill asketball shorts 292 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: T shirt. I played him everything I had, all my 293 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: rough drafts, and he was like, that's the one I 294 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: want to work on. And this was like before me 295 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: even saying like I want, you know, I want, can 296 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: I get a feature type thing? And it was just 297 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: like he was like, I like that one. Let me 298 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: work on that. Send me that. We surprised how he 299 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: tackled It's kind of like one of Doornes. It was. 300 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: It was perfect, like I feel like I set it 301 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: up and in a way where all he had to 302 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: do was just like finish it. I know when people 303 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: get heavyweight features, the big question or the big debate 304 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: is like all he killed or I'm like no, like 305 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: I did exactly what I was supposed to do, and 306 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: you know, Cole came through with like a thirty two. 307 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know all the but I mean, I 308 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: can't speak for cold, but to me, that was a 309 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: letter to his wife, you know, like I don't I 310 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: don't know personally who he was writing too, but that's 311 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: what I took it as it. I'm like the fact 312 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: that he had the space to to do something that 313 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: he might not have done on his album. It's like perfect. 314 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: But I'll take it away and go my favorite journal, 315 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: the Scripture. I felt like you went out there, got 316 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: your ship off on that particular record. Was that was? 317 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: Was that the mission? Yeah? Scripture records like scripture nonchalant, 318 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: uh old the gun, Like those are moments where I 319 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: do get to like stick my chest out a little bit, 320 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: because yeah, I say, most of the time is a 321 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: super humble or super R and B or super like 322 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: just just passive. In those are moments where I get 323 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: to like talk, you know, just tell my story, uh 324 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: kind of like never know on the first album, Um, 325 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: I think Scripture was like a two point oh and 326 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: never now, So you really wrote that in the hotel 327 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the size of a closet and Montreal yeah, yeah, you 328 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: gotta put that up on I g I didn't notice it, 329 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: and I look back to your feet the day you 330 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: did it, or so, I was in Montreal and they 331 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: made a mistake and booked a bad hotel, like a 332 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: horrible like the bed was the bed was touching the desk, 333 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: like the desk the back of the chair for the 334 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: death was touching the bed. The night stand was right 335 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: next to the bed. It was like literally a square 336 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: that's like an apartment in Brooklyn. It was Yeah, they 337 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, yeah, we can like switch you out. 338 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: We can get you another on Mike, just like set 339 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: up the studio equipment. Me just figure this out, right man, 340 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: For that one particular line you said, don't pay me 341 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: to know niggad, I'm better than it seems like. It's 342 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: if you always get those chips off your shoulder. Yeah. 343 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: I think when you're a new act, clap it up. 344 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: When you're a new act, the first thing people do 345 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: to to process who you are what you do is like, 346 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: compared to you, compared you to somebody else. So it's like, yeah, 347 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: I like him. He sounds like so and so makes 348 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: with so and so and so and so, and it's 349 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: just like maybe if you got to combine all those 350 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: people did not sound like myself. You know, it's just 351 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: like so um yeah, coming up, you get comparisons, You 352 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: get like, oh he sounds like this, or he reminds 353 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: me of that. But at the end of the day, 354 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: like I don't do what they do and they can't 355 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: do what I do. Yeah, you hate that people try 356 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: to lump you in with that and try to dark 357 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Everything's like, well it's dark and it's it's simp it's 358 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: a certain sound. But I mean, I just I just 359 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: know what I do, Like I'm super confident on what 360 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: I do and knowing that, like I'm not here to 361 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: duplicate anybody else, and that nobody can duplicate you know, 362 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: me and what I went through as far as battle rap, 363 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: as far as rapping writing songs, like I have a 364 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: particular style and my fans know my voice a minute 365 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: they hear me. You talk about how meticulous you are 366 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: with your music. You said somebody you spent twelve hours 367 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: on two bars, Like, man, you know what's something that 368 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: album was that? Do you remember? Mmmm? I Mean sometimes 369 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: it takes like it it can get really really vigorous, 370 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: like when I'm in the studio. I'm in the studio 371 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: by myself. I usually kick my engineering producer out and 372 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm like tracking by myself at the at the boards. 373 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's quick, but other times I'll be in 374 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: a studio for like the entire night and I won't 375 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: like get to the next four bars until like six am, 376 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: just because like I won't. I won't force it out, 377 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, like I'll I'll listen to it, I'll play 378 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: it back, I'll try to like you know a few 379 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: different things. I'll take a nap, you know again, and 380 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: then I like get up and then maybe like five am, 381 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I got it and all. Because it's 382 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: just like when you don't have like that block schedule 383 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: of the studio time where it's like I gotta be 384 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: out of here by whatever clock. It's like, bro, just 385 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: take your time, think, rest um, get on the internet, 386 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: like do whatever you gotta do to make sure the 387 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 1: next lines are perfect lines and not just like I 388 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: can wrap, so let me just put some lines down 389 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: on paper. Like every line that I put out has 390 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: to be like it has to be you know, better 391 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: than the next or just you know, comparable to the next, 392 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: right speaking of lines, like one of the most meaningful 393 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: lines that I found on the albums we talked about 394 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: an episode we had like a gun to your face 395 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: at sixteen years old or Yeah. This was in my 396 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 1: old neighborhood, Qui Ridge on South Harriston, and random night 397 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with me, Like I didn't know 398 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: who it was. I was just like walking down the 399 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: street late at night, going to going to the crib. 400 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: And usually in like neighborhoods like that, and during that time, 401 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: like if somebody drives past you and they hit the 402 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: break lights, then you already know like the night's about 403 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: to get ridiculous, you know. So I see the break 404 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: lights like oh ship, and they hop out going to 405 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: my face and I'm just like in my head like 406 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: during that time, I'm literally thinking like I haven't even 407 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: had a kid yet, bro Like, and to be that 408 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: younger to think something that old is it's kind of 409 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of weird to think, but that's all I 410 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: can think about in that moment. It's just like I'm 411 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: not done, you know, Like I a lot of stuff 412 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: to do, so uh yeah, smack the gun down, take 413 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: off running down the street. It's like so It's like 414 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: it's a tall fence to my right, so I can't 415 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: hop it, so I have to run straight. And then 416 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: I look back and I see him with the gun again, 417 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: holding it just like pointing out my back. I'm like, please, please, please, 418 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: please please. As soon as I get to where the 419 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: fence breaks, I just cut right from my house. Was 420 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: like right across the street, going the house. Say what's 421 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: uping to my mom? Lay on the couch, go to sleep. 422 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: I don't say nothing, and she had no idea what happened. 423 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: You also talk about surviving cards too, right, yep. And 424 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: I was never driving, never the driver, so I don't 425 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: even know how to drive. Yeah, but yeah, the worst 426 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: one was just coming from a Denzel curage on Florida. 427 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: This is before everything. Yeah, I want to go see 428 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: Curry somewhere in Florida. And on the way back, we 429 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: were deciding like are we gonna drive back or stay 430 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: tonight because we didn't have like a hotel, um, so 431 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: we decided to drive back. In the person at the 432 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: wheel fell asleep. I wake up. We hit the meeting 433 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: and then I see him like he hanked the wheel. 434 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: And from there, you know, if you like Yanko Wills, Right, 435 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: you're about to spend, You're about to flip. So just 436 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: held on, spun flipped and did it and ditch everybody 437 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: miraculously was okay. Um, you know, we crawled up out 438 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: of there, and to this day, like those are moments 439 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: where you know it's a lot going on, but I 440 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: still think about like just the bigger picture, which is 441 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: it's just not over yet, right six is going in. 442 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: You said your mom didn't know about that gun and sident. 443 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean, how was she she heard the album? What 444 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: did she respond to it after? Um, I mean she 445 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: found out a lot of stuff after the fact. I 446 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: just never wanted to bother her, like what whatever was 447 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: going on in the street, Like you never want to 448 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: bring myself to your crib, you know, as a young man, 449 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: as a kid, just like I can handle it on 450 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: my own, or I just don't want to stress you out. 451 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: So I went through a lot of stuff, and you know, 452 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: it was in a lot of different situations that she 453 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about until later where people are just like, oh, yeah, 454 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: you ain't know when blah blah blah happened, or he 455 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: was over there with blah blah blah, and that happened 456 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: like until one of the homies got killed in the neighborhood. 457 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: Like she had no idea that anything like that was 458 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: even going on. And that was because like that night, 459 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: it was just a night where everybody came out the house, 460 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: like police were there, everybody's mom was outside, and that 461 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: was that was when she was like, okay, cool, like 462 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: we gotta move, we gotta get out of here, somewhere 463 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: between humble and hell no, why are you? Why are 464 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: you that way? Like I thought that was a pretty 465 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: poignant line on nonchalant um, just because I do like 466 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: to I'm just big on leading by example, which is, 467 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, with my fans, with my friends, like what 468 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: everybody is like, I want to always give them the 469 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: idea that you know, I do feel like I'm talented, 470 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: but I don't feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be. 471 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: And every day I wake up, I'm working to get better. 472 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: So staying in a humble space, standing in the grounded space, 473 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, makes it keeps me like, you know, certain 474 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: of what I need to be working on versus feeling 475 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: like I already figured it out. And then you know, 476 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you have flashes where it's like you need to 477 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: patch yourself on the back, Like you need to to 478 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: look at everything that you've done and realize that it's 479 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: not something that everybody can do. Also, the biggest thing 480 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: about you is that you've made it very clear. You know, 481 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: you've had bad experiences this industry to put it mildly, 482 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: and like you know, you wanted to do it and 483 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: succeed on your own terms, and you've done it that way. Um. Yeah, 484 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: I had to go through like a couple of bad deals. 485 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: I had to go through. Uh. I mean a lot 486 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: of it has been you know, become more public lately. 487 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: But um, in that story and in all of those stories, 488 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: like it was never you know, told to to ask 489 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: for sympathy or to to like share some kind of 490 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: sob story. It was to let people know other artists 491 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: coming up. You know, like you need to look at 492 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: the paperwork, you know, before you sign it, and you 493 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: need to get a lawyer. And if you do end 494 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: up in a bad situation, you don't need to be 495 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: discouraged because it's bad, Like you can figure it out. 496 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: You can figure a way out. If I know somebody 497 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: to tell you, like you look out for him, I'm 498 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna tell you like look out for them, like don't 499 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: go over there. So that's my job. So I thought 500 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: it was interesting you tweeted that it took you like 501 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: eight years to make real money in this game, and 502 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: you would do it all over again. Yeah. I remember 503 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: like going out to eat and people being like you hunger. 504 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm like no, I'm good, stomach growling, and just like 505 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: or like ordering the advertising and then waiting for somebody 506 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: else to pick up the check, just like I have 507 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: so many weird moments like that, to the point where 508 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: I was like, bro, it's better be worth it, like 509 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: everything that you're going through, like, better be worth the embarrassment, 510 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: better be worth like all these pride shots that you're taking, 511 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: because you know, it's just like a weird space to 512 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: be in, especially like once I left and I got 513 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: signed for the first time and everybody back home thought 514 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: like he made it. So then you have to go 515 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: back home and like not pretend, but it's just like 516 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: still keep them inspired. It's like, you know, I don't 517 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: want you all to know what I'm going through, so 518 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you the good side. And yeah, 519 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: whatever she said, she got to call it up. What's 520 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: it like now having to manage money and having money 521 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: and being successful in terms of finances and stuff like that. 522 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: What have you learned in that process? Business managers are 523 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: the keys to life. Uh. They make sure I don't 524 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: go broke. And yeah, it's just cool to have like 525 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: people who know exactly what they're doing and what they're 526 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: talking about and any question I could possibly ever want 527 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: to know money related, music, business related, like I asked, 528 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: no matter how stupid it may sound, like I have 529 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: to know because at the end of the day, I 530 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: want to know the business side of it too, Like 531 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: I want to know where all my money is going, 532 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: who I'm you know, breaking it down with how much 533 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: I gotta pay for taxes, how much I'm getting back, 534 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: Like I need to know all of this stuff. So 535 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: my business managers are my best friends. But you say, 536 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: you know you're not where you want to be. Where 537 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: do you want to be? It seems like you've made 538 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: it already, man, Yeah, Grammy nominated, when that Grammy that's 539 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: about to be about to get yeah nominated as part one. 540 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: But I honestly just want to make as much music 541 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: as I can make. I want to take it as 542 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: far as I can take it, so I know that 543 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: that comes with a lot more work, a lot more 544 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: uh consideration of of what the Sonics need to be 545 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: for it to break, you know, like a new crowd, 546 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: a new uh, just like just to bring more people in. 547 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: And then honestly, I want to be able to like 548 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: after all that has done, Like I want to be 549 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: able to tour with like loyal fans and not really 550 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: worry about a release date or a deadline or anything 551 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: like that. I just want to get to a point 552 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: where I can feel like I've placed my you know, 553 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: my feet in the ground, and my fans are here 554 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: to stay or like some of them go, It doesn't 555 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: really matter. I just want to be comfortable. I want 556 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: to make what I want to make, and I want 557 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: to make sure she is good. And once that's like 558 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: all said, I'm good. Roost. The five nine called you 559 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: a gift to the culture. That's how about to say, 560 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: that's ca and that's that's amazing coming from him, That's amazing, 561 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: and yeah, amazing that. Yeah you're not gonna battle him, 562 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: you got a boss, no, never that, but you're going 563 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: on the world toward two and a couple of next month, right, 564 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: I'll start next really Like next week I go to 565 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: South Africa and I start there, then Australia and then 566 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: Europe and then the States break down the artist you 567 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: shows because it's kind of yeah, it's kind of us 568 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: the group select dates for select places, but um, we 569 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: have they in Australia, boogie in Australia, and then I 570 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: have Tierra Whack on like select days mainly like the 571 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: LID dates in the States, and then I have Summer 572 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: Walker supporting the whole way through. And then I'm thinking 573 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: about bringing one more person on just like for the States, 574 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: just as a surprise. Why Tierra Whack is on the 575 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: toy and when she's also on the album, Like what 576 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: is it about her that you like so much? Um? 577 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, she's just innovative, Like I like, I like 578 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: that she does what comes natural and I can like 579 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: see that and I can hear like when I first 580 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: heard her project, like with every minute that passed, with 581 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: every song that came on, like you didn't know, yeah, 582 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: you didn't know where it was going next, but you 583 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: were excited, you know, to hear it and to see it, 584 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: Like Tierra's amazing. Everywhere I've been, I've been saying, like 585 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: when they asked me what I listened to him like 586 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: Tierra Wax, Tierra Wax to the point where I was 587 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: somewhere and somebody like pulled me to the side and 588 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: they're like, yo, uh did the label tell you to 589 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: talk about it? I'm like, no, I just I just 590 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: love to hear I see you guys. It's direct on 591 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: social so you guys have a good, good report. Yeah, 592 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: they thought it was like a label thing where it's 593 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: just like make sure you plug. Yeah, she signed to 594 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: a production company. Yeah, just rock with her. That's all 595 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: another female artists that you rocked with Last year's Dreasy 596 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: on the spa verse, man, that was that. That was 597 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: a crazy verse for her too. Like I did my thing. 598 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: I said it up. But obviously she like she shined 599 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: on that and that was that was a perfect you know, yeah, 600 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: she killed she can. I mean she can. But you know, 601 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: in my defense, that's all wouldn't even exist if it 602 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: wasn't for the boys. Okay, that was my producer. That 603 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: was my producer, you know. That was that was my situation. 604 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, like I said, it was just like it 605 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: was it was more fit for her to take the 606 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: stage on Showcase. What she could do. You know Trump 607 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: didn't and those people at you today you know him 608 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: rest with it. She said, let ago was the last 609 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: song without the last song you did for album. Yeah. 610 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: They told me like, no more records, don't no more records. 611 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm itching because I'm like something's missing, bro, 612 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: like special intricate, especially with the sequencing. Did you know 613 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: that that's what you were missing? Or just before a fact, 614 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: because like we know this is like a slower paced, 615 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: you know album, So I'm like, something upbeat is missing, bro. 616 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: So I'm not like gonna stop recording records until we 617 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: figure out what that last one is. And business boys 618 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: sent me that be last minute. We were like mixing 619 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm making a new song and 620 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't care what they say. And I made that 621 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: song and it was immediately like throwing on the list 622 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: of songs to go an album. I was kind of 623 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: upset that that Far didn't make the album. I know 624 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: you put it as a lucy last year, but that 625 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: was like my go to record, like for the at 626 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: a part of Yeah, That Far and Cutting Ties. Honestly, 627 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: those are like two songs that could have made the album, 628 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: especially still it's a good song, like he dropped cutting 629 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: Tis on Valentine's Day. That's savagery, man. But if you 630 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: have like a troll on Twitter or like social media, 631 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: all them you, I recommend everyone to go listen to 632 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: that far in that Far. Yeah, that's what that far was. 633 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: It was like a random tweet. This guy was like, yeah, 634 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: black is cool. He's just a little one track minded, 635 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, you got some nerves from your mom. 636 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: And I didn't even feel that kind of way when 637 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: I read it. I was just like, I'm literally recording 638 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: right now, so I'm just gonna throw this in the 639 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: hook and we're gonna keep it rocking. But it seems 640 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: like as if you respond good to the negativity, like 641 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: because I see it all, So I take what I 642 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: hear and I see, and I decide with stays like 643 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: I can see anything. It doesn't matter if it's good negative, 644 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: Like I see it all because I like to see 645 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: it all. First of all, I'm only seeing it because 646 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: I want to see what my fans are saying. So 647 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: if I happened to run into somebody else, it's just 648 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: like I don't take it with a grain of sal 649 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: keeping moving make a hit song and toward Australia, because 650 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: if I didn't make that song, I probably wouldn't have 651 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: toward Australia that quick. Like that far was my second 652 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: biggest song in Australia after Problems and Man, so shout 653 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: out to him. So it's important that you stay connected 654 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: to follow these social things, Like it doesn't drive you crazy, 655 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: like some artists can't handle all that. Yeah, I mean 656 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: negative and the positive comes with it, right six But 657 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and I know, like I can definitely understand 658 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: why it is so our candle. Like imagine seeing like 659 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: that many opinions and that many like you know, critiques 660 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: and the real time Yeah yeah, yeah, Like it can 661 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: literally drive you crazy. And I think people forget that 662 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: we are human. So, um, I can handle it. I 663 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: see it. You know, I've seen everything from the best 664 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: things to the worst things. At the end of the day, 665 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: like I know what I'm supposed to be doing, I 666 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: know what my purpose is. I know I'm making her proud. 667 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard to have that tough skin. 668 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: But um, I didn't get it from the Internet. I 669 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: got it from the neighborhood. So it's like you see, 670 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: say what you want you know, do what you want. 671 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: But at the watch, what's up with you? Are you sleepy? 672 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: But for people that don't know, can you break down 673 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: the whole thing of the black and the six and 674 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: the six lack? We have fun with that, like can 675 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: you break down for people who don't know the situation? 676 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: The name came from just the areas on six. The 677 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: color was just the color I was decked out in 678 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I got the name when 679 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: I was in middle school and I just rocked with 680 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: it for the rest of the return six. And that 681 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: was representative of this baby that that won't stop moving 682 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: and you don't know what she want to do or 683 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: you want the card, want the plastic people on so far, 684 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: just hold on to it. But then sometimes people friends 685 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: you still call they call you six as a nickname, 686 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: and you're okay with that. Yeah, I mean that's because 687 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: they actually know. So it was like, clearly, you can 688 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: call me six if you know. Uh, I mean, at 689 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: this point, I'm over like all the I don't. I 690 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: never really cared about the mispronunciation, especially since my merch. 691 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: It's created great merch, it does exceptionally well. Have you 692 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: seed your name yet? No? No, but they swing jack them. Man. 693 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: But at least it ended up in urban um and 694 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: then I might end up making merch for the people 695 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: who just really don't want to say it right. It's 696 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: like cool, if you don't want to say it right, bro, 697 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: I got a shirt for you, you go buy it. 698 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: We have a divided but united fan base. Like you know, 699 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: the check still the same, right, as long as they 700 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: spell the name right on the check, that's all that 701 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: really matters. Why do you think it's so like it 702 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: seems like we first interviewed you had long hair, we 703 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: couldn't film you on camera. You know. Now it's like 704 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: almost the complete opposite, Like why do you feel more 705 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: comfortable put yourself out there and sharing more? Um? I 706 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: just had to hit reset, honestly, Like, I had a 707 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: point where I noticed I was performing six at a 708 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: point where I was performing and I just noticed like 709 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: I was performing with my head down, I was meeting 710 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: people with my head down. I was like, I just 711 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I became pret black and that was 712 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: like a thing I was trying to move past. So 713 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: I just had to hear reset, start over from scratch, 714 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: and I feel way better. Was it cutting your hair? 715 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: Like what was that process like for six? You put 716 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: it in the video on the switch video. Yeah, you 717 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: had a little clips of it. I didn't go anywhere 718 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: for a week after. I come on, really trauma tiz. 719 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: How long you were growing it for? Like maybe like 720 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: a little over two years? Okay, man, So you have 721 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: something like a barba come through and do it or 722 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: you did it though, and oh yeah I had first 723 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: I started to because she's about to get in trouble 724 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: on the podcast. On the podcast six, she is our 725 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: youngest guest. She might be record there you go, sleepy? 726 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: Could you keep dropping the same? It's all good? Yeah, 727 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: rap rightous for the kids episode like this, and we 728 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: were like child guests before, so okay, okay, I forgot. 729 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: We were at about what are we talking about? Babies 730 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: will do that? Bro ther hair? Yeah, I tried to 731 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: like save um. So I never had anybody touched my 732 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: dress at all. So it was free form, like without 733 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: even like starting a certain kind of way. So once 734 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: the loctician is like I looked at my head, she 735 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: was like, all of this gotta go, well, most of 736 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: it has to go. So when I saw what was left, 737 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not keeping no man button on 738 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: my head. I'm not We're like, we're not about to 739 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: silence any kind of way. It gotta it, just all 740 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: gotta go. I cut it. My guy out in l 741 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: A cut it, and it just took me a lot 742 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: except what was going on. So I was in a 743 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: crib like I ain't going nowhere, I ain't talking to nobody, 744 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: and I need to like figure out how to how 745 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: to be comfortable with this. It's like where I was 746 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: Astar Game with all these guys. He came up the 747 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: locker room and it was like, oh man, you cut 748 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: the braids. You remember when you first went out, Like 749 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: what was that experience like for you? Yeah, people were 750 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: looking at me to try to figure out who I 751 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: was again. People would see me and they would be like, damn, 752 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: I think that's black, but it can't be black. And 753 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: it was cool for me to be able to like 754 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: have that space again to where it took people a 755 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: minute to recognize my face. Did the affect your recording 756 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: process a little bit? Maybe not so much on the 757 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: recording then, maybe not so much on the recording and 758 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: just performance, especially like the minute I came out on 759 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: stage in l A. That was the first time back 760 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: on stage. Yeah, I came out on stage in l 761 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: A and like I was just moving differently, like I 762 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: was running on stage, and before then I was never 763 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: running on stage. I wanted to. I just felt like 764 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: I was held back. Right, that's still I saw that 765 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: cool stage moment. Was it last year when he got 766 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: the gold plaque and your mom was there, Cruiser? Yeah, 767 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: that was in I got what's your goal? Like? We 768 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: double platinum with Problems, right, we're platinum with ex calling in. 769 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: The album's platinum too, Yeah, double platinum Problems, Uh album 770 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: is probably almost platinum, and X callings platinum and Free 771 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: is Free is gold? Yeah? Man, you come a long way. 772 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: I remember you tweeted you said he used to tell 773 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: you take five Okay, okay, cool, he said things you 774 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: tell you how to make it hit every day. And 775 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: now you know all you had to did was engineered 776 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: by yourself in the kitchen and drop dope stuff on 777 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: your SoundCloud. So that's a recipe for success. Yeah, recipe 778 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: for success is also trying to keep this one happy. 779 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: You're all right, don't this is what you're gonna sleepy? 780 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: She died, rap rate our kids. You gotta have a 781 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: a baby your podcast, So you tackle her head on 782 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: about you know what has this process been like fatherhood 783 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: for you, like and sharing some of it with us. Yeah, 784 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean I really don't get to see her like 785 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: that much at all. So with touring, with recording um 786 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: and then with like trying to figure out like the 787 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: relationship between me and her mom has just been like 788 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: it's been like a process, you know, so nothing nothing, 789 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: and it has been like seamless. But oh it's just 790 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: like I get to work, I get to do what 791 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: I love. And it's never been like solely about making 792 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: sure she's good financially, but it's been more so about 793 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: like leaving their legacy and like leaving something behind for 794 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: her to figure out like what her purpose is one day. 795 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: And I mean it's almost like that's it's like you 796 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: always talk about a lot of being the music outside 797 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: of her loss of relationships that it's hard for you 798 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: to put anything less than your work before that, Right, 799 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: it's a common thing that you tackle. It's going back 800 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: to the main theme of the record. You talk about 801 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: like opening up a conversation about love, like what And 802 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: you've empowered a lot of your fans to ship their 803 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: thoughts about a lot of things, like what's that process 804 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: been like like putting it out there and giving all 805 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: this feedback back and MNNA think what people don't really know? 806 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: It's while I'm telling these stories. While I'm writing these stories, 807 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: like in addition to coaching other people through it, I'm 808 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 1: trying to coach myself through it, like in real time. 809 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: So a problem that I developed, you know, within my 810 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: relationships and the people I know is like I would 811 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: write about it before I would talk about it, and 812 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: I would think because I wrote about it, that I 813 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: didn't have to talk about it, And the next thing 814 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, you're in a room with somebody and they 815 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: hear something in your song and they're like, so, you know, 816 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: it was a habit I had developed, and I had 817 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, how to break it and 818 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: how to actually communicate. More So, this album was about communication, 819 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: not only for you know, other people to open up discussion, 820 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: but just like a reminder in my everyday life is 821 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: like bro, like you have to talk about things like 822 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: you have to not beat around the bush, you have 823 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: to like not leave you know, things to people's imagination, 824 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 1: Like you have to say exactly what you mean because 825 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: one day your daughter is gonna have questions and you're 826 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: gonna have to answer and not be like you know, 827 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't know or so it's just a different thing 828 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: of like having a few more voices just shows that 829 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: sometimes men and women communicate differently. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. 830 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: And like I said, it was just like about having 831 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: that different perspective, you know, on the album in general, 832 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: like with the skits, and I wish that I could 833 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: have had like, uh that that that strong female feature 834 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: or reverse you know, that that was the only thing 835 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: that I felt like was missing from the album. But um, 836 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: through the skits and through you know other things, background vocals, 837 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: we got to like just implement that because I don't 838 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: think I can ever make a project without some kind 839 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: of female you know, like presence on it. But towards 840 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: the end of the album, we had this tear jerker 841 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: stand like what was the throat process behind that? You 842 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: just wanted to make a wedding record? Yeah, I heard 843 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: the production. It was a completely different song. At first, 844 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: Um it went like super left. But I was just 845 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: like take everything off, like let me let me figure 846 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: out the song, let me figure out the vocals or 847 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: words all of that, and line for line, it was 848 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: just like a stream of what I thought like love 849 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: was supposed to feel, like, what it was supposed to 850 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: sound like, things I wanted to say to the person 851 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 1: I love and you know, hopefully a song that people 852 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: can get like married to one day or like whatever. 853 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: So Stand was definitely more on the soft side on 854 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: the side of things, and for it to be at 855 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: the end of the album was kind of letting people know, 856 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: like at the end of all these conversations, at the 857 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: end of these ups and downs and like these disagreements 858 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: and disconnects, like this is what we should all be 859 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: trying to get to, you know, is to feel like this, 860 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: you know, to be in a state where this song 861 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: is is your favorite song with this song is the 862 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: one that represents like the conclusion of it all. So 863 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: Stan was placed at the end to just kind of 864 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: show like where I'm headed towards, and you know where 865 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: I want everybody else to head towards. Is that is 866 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: that one of your favorites on the album? Like what 867 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: do you have a favorite? Yeah, I think all of 868 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: them are my favorite, because if it wasn't my favorite, 869 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: it didn't make the album, that's for sure. Like we 870 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: had a ton of songs, and every time I narrowed 871 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: down the list, like I had to keep narrowing down 872 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: the list. So we narrowed it down to like forty, 873 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: and then we narrowed down to like and then we 874 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: narrowed down to like twenty, And once I got to twenty, 875 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: I was like, we cannot have any more than twenties. 876 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: So if I make a new song, who's the taken out? Yeah? 877 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, if I make a new song, 878 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: something has to be replaced, like if something else is 879 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: getting added to the list, and what's gonna go. So 880 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: we were like alternating around Tony and then once we've 881 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: figured out like the strongest of those who were like, Okay, 882 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: now we can figure out the project and it together. 883 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: It's such a craftsman of words. Is there any particular 884 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: lyrics they're really saying out to you that you're very 885 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: proud of? Mm hmm all of the lyrics on Nonchalant? Uh, 886 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: just from a skill point, you know, just like being 887 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,959 Speaker 1: able to weave and then out of like a beat 888 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: that's looping and it doesn't really like change, but to 889 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: to just show different flows, different metaphors. Every line on 890 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: Nonchalant is my favorite, and sorry might be like one 891 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: of the more personal ones, and every line in that 892 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: means something like it just means something super potent to me. Um, 893 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: sorry and disconnect really but uh sorry, just being like 894 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: that song where I know in my life like sometimes 895 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: sorry just isn't enough. So um, and I'll talk about 896 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: like writing my wrongs and like all these things. So yeah, 897 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: just like me telling myself again, like, bro, you can't 898 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: right yourself out of these situations. You know you have 899 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: to you have to figure it out in person. It 900 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: seems like you said that like a little bit on 901 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: Unfair on the beginning track, like you feel like your 902 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: mistakes make you less than the man, but lately I 903 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: feel like them really, Kay, Like what made you come 904 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: to that conclusion? Um, just like just like that that 905 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: feeling of of knowing that you can't do everything right now, 906 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: that you're not always going to do everything right, and 907 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: I guess excepting that it's okay to not be right sometimes. 908 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: It's just like, of course I'm apologetic for for my 909 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: wrongs and for the things that I didn't have figured 910 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: out when I needed to figure them out. But I'm 911 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: also human, you know, And I'm also like trying to 912 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: figure it out. And anybody who can look at you 913 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: and tell you like they got to figure it out, 914 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: is like, because we're all just kind of in this ship, 915 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: just you know, kind of just figuring it out day 916 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: by day. It's like sometimes you're on course, sometimes you 917 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: get off course, sometimes you focus, sometimes something distracts you, like, 918 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: but I just have to accept that, like being him 919 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 1: and you know, it doesn't mean I'm a bad person, 920 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: and knowing that I want to get better is like 921 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: the first step in all of it. All Right, you 922 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: definitely have this maturity on this album. Like even on 923 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: that record I think it was I forget what trick 924 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: it was, but you said, you even have this attitude 925 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: of a veteran, like even though you're like a rookie. 926 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: Un Yeah, I mean because like my my, my introduction 927 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: to the world was after maybe ten years of rapping, 928 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: and even though I was a kid, it was literally 929 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: like ten years of sharpening on swore, ten years of practicing, 930 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: teen years of writing so um by the time everybody else. 931 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: So I mean, I felt like in my own sense 932 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: and in my own way, I'm like I'm not I'm 933 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: new to the game, but I'm not new to this, right, 934 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: I know you showed up love to dug on on 935 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: the album You might be on his next album? Yeah, 936 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: definitely on the next album. Definitely, definitely on his next album. 937 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: We got like a few together dope to work with U. 938 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: He kind of runs like like if you ever see 939 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: him in the studios, like a point guard, and he'll 940 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: like start the idea, lay the melody, lay a first first, 941 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: and then like point out somebody and be like you 942 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: go right here, and then you you guys go back 943 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 1: and forth and like you try this. Like he's literally 944 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: in their calling place and just like breeding, just like 945 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: the best out of everybody. So because he joints too small, 946 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: he don't want to. Yeah, pretty good. He was like 947 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: when I got finished playing, he was like that's it. 948 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah. If he walked out and somebody 949 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: was saying that he um he wanted me to send 950 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,959 Speaker 1: it and he's like, man, it's too short. I needed 951 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: to send me that. But at that point I'm like, no, 952 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: I gotta wrap this album. We mentioned the idea, but 953 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: you seem still very I'm should the phone gets rang 954 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: a lout, but you're really selected before you work with everyone, 955 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: can't get a black feature Like no, no, I mean 956 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: it's never been about you know, like the check or 957 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: anything else. For me, it's like I meet you if 958 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: if if it, if it works out as far as 959 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: like how we interact, then maybe we work. But even 960 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: before then, like coming up as an artist, I was 961 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: never on the side of like how much for a feature? 962 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: Let me at the future, Like you have to connect 963 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: with people first. You have to build a relationship and 964 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: if you know things match up, then you work. You 965 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: know you don't you don't kind of put that out 966 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: there first. You don't really know like who somebody is, 967 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: you know if you want to work with him, if 968 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: you don't know who they are. I thought you and 969 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: every cup I do were going to get in the 970 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: studio after you did the cover phone and on. I 971 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: hope so so. I love Erica, I love Erica. Everybody 972 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: loves Erica. But yeah, hopefully one of one of these days. Yeah, 973 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: it's like another you know, a goal, another goal. I 974 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: I saw you cross one of them. More with the weekend. 975 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: You guys went on tour last year? What was that experience? 976 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: Like I learned everything I needed to learn from my 977 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: own tour, Like I went on the arena tour, and 978 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: going from like two a cap to arena is a 979 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: crazy change. So I remember not because you remember your 980 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: first New York City show. It was at the Mercury Lounge. 981 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: It was like a closet, and now you're And that's 982 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: why I say, like going from like being thrown into that, 983 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: it's like you immediately have to figure out how to 984 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: be the best showman. It's either that or people you're saying, 985 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: I saw Black and he wasn't that good life, And 986 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: it's not even because like for any artist, it's not 987 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: even because you're not that good live. You just might 988 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: not be good in the arena because the arena is 989 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: not easy. So I went out there every night and 990 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: I figured it out. You know, I was I was 991 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: watching him, I was watching the crowd. I was just 992 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: figuring out. I'm like, Okay, what can I add to 993 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: my game from stage presence to crowd control to uh 994 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: call and response, like all these things that I didn't 995 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: know before, Like when I was that Mercury Lounge. I 996 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: learned on that tour because you would come out and 997 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: the crowd is not there for you, so they're looking like, yeah, 998 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: they're looking like who is this, and you have to 999 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: prove to them like I'm supposed to be here in 1000 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 1: a way. So I would go out there every night, 1001 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: I would look at them and I would just be like, 1002 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be here, and that's you know, how 1003 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: I would carry myself the whole time I'm performing. It's 1004 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: like when I say hands up, hands go up, and 1005 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: if you don't put your hands up, then you look 1006 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 1: silly because everybody else. So that that was that was 1007 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: like the challenges when you are performing on a big 1008 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: arena stage like that, because you know, as a fan, 1009 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: it just looks like, Okay, you're going stage, do your thing, 1010 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: and you will get chewed up and spit up. And 1011 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: I think, I think I think that's where like a 1012 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: lot of new artists like kind of get that rapping 1013 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: and beginning for not being good performers. I mean, some 1014 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: people aren't good performers, but you know, being in an 1015 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: arena is just a different ballgame. Like I said, it's 1016 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: just like you have to you have to know and 1017 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: learn and like do certain things in order to get 1018 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: the crowd on your side because otherwise they're going to 1019 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: have this perception of just like he's just not good 1020 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 1: and everything from the audio is different, like just stepping 1021 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 1: out there and like actually doing what you do vocally 1022 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: is more challenging because of the sound in the arena. 1023 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 1: And like you think you can take it in ears 1024 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: out when you're on a small on a small stage, 1025 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: you take it inners out in arena, You're not gonna 1026 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: hear ship. It's gonna be echoing everywhere. Yeah, like confusing 1027 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,760 Speaker 1: problem is no way that you can no way. So um, yeah, 1028 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: you're go on an arena tour and you'll definitely learn 1029 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: all the tricks you need to learn and take back 1030 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: on your own. And you're excited with this. You're coming 1031 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: up in terms of a lot of new material now 1032 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: and you said you want the fans st Yeah, I 1033 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: can't wait to like mix the shows because I've been 1034 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: going off for Free Black for two years, So I 1035 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: just can't wait to like put in some of these 1036 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 1: new songs and like figure out the balance, figure out, 1037 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, how the story is going to be on stage, 1038 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: figure out a new way to present it, you know 1039 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: on stage, because you know, as much as we care 1040 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: about rollouts is as much as we care about you know, 1041 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: the tour and the show. So for the people who 1042 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: have seen the Free Black Show maybe like twice or 1043 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: three times, you know in certain cities. It's just like 1044 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: what can I do differently? And you know, what can 1045 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: I do so that they leave in there like it 1046 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: was equally as amazing as you know the first time 1047 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: I saw or better? How do you how do you 1048 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: settle these debates between you know, Easterly a love Letter 1049 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: and Free Black? It seems like we get into me. 1050 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I mean, it's it's dope to 1051 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 1: even like see the conversation of people trying to figure 1052 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: it out because it could have been it ain't Free Black, 1053 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: and that's just it is what it is. Like, I 1054 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: still love the first album. It could have been that. 1055 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: So people you know, flocking to this album and like 1056 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: defending Free Black, like that's a great conference asan to have. God, 1057 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have it any other way. I think that 1058 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: this new album is an extension of the album and 1059 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: that they're related in some kind of way, so comparing 1060 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: them is it makes sense? Think Buddy Joe Button said 1061 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: that he wouldn't like the second albums like it had 1062 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: to be that type of it had to be, you know, 1063 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: it had to they had to connect and this one 1064 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: had to be the next one. So I don't know 1065 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: what's next, but I think that these two albums were 1066 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: like chapters that belong together, and what's next is completely different. 1067 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 1: So what's gonna happen to those records that you know, 1068 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 1: you record it? Putt put out a mixtape without EP. 1069 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: We could ship them off, you know, get some writing credits. Um, 1070 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: none of them are ever really dead. I'm always kind 1071 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: of just like moving songs around, trying to figure out 1072 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: if people need something, you know, maybe I can help um. 1073 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: But other than that, Yeah, like I make a ton 1074 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 1: of songs. None of them are just like lost causes, 1075 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: Like we we revisit stuff all the time. Like the 1076 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: second verse from Switch came from a song I made 1077 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: in like twenty maybe, like or like, yeah, I like 1078 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: the approach that you have for the Switch video, Like 1079 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: you're laying on the ground and people just instead of 1080 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: helping you, just taking pictures and things like that. You 1081 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: disabled my phone for four minutes. But yeah, that was 1082 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: just kind of Switch was about perspective, Like Switch was 1083 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: about not feeling like you have the answers of the 1084 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: solutions to what somebody else is going through. And just 1085 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: being mindful of that. You know, like you might be 1086 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 1: going through something, but somebody else is going through something, 1087 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: and don't ever think you know that. You can just 1088 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: be like, well, you could have just did this, or 1089 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 1: you could have just handled it that way, like and switch. 1090 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying my best to to understand the other side 1091 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: of the story and tell my side, you know, without 1092 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: being biased, without being selfish. Right, sacrifices are real. You 1093 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: lose money, friends, moments, and you put your body in 1094 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: its health, Tomits That's what I'm doing right now, right. 1095 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: I was out of it for two weeks, like a 1096 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: vocal rest. I couldn't talk, cords were like inflamed, all 1097 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: kinds of damn from touring so much. And then on 1098 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: the flight back from New York, something happened. I got 1099 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: like an infection. I woke up from a nap feeling 1100 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: like somebody had like cough right on me, and like, 1101 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: I just it wasn't mine because I want to sleep 1102 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: a certain kind of way, and I woke up different. 1103 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, what happened while I was sleep 1104 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: just felt like glass. I'm like, um, but yeah, I 1105 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 1: was on vocals. I had like a new diet. I 1106 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: couldn't eat, drink, do anything that I normally do. Um, 1107 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: So trying to fix that and get ready for tour 1108 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: now right, No new vices, nothing like that. Never Nope. Good, 1109 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm so good. Yeah, I got I kind a pretty 1110 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: good gauge on what the game is. Um. I smoked 1111 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: when I want to smoke. I drink when I want 1112 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: to drink. I'm not a small cord drink. I never 1113 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 1: learned how to roll, and I never will learned how 1114 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: to roll because like I just don't. I don't want 1115 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: to have Yeah, I don't want to have that luxury 1116 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: like yeah, I enjoy, you know, smoking here and there, 1117 00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: but I don't want to be like where do we 1118 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: you know? So yeah, I don't know how to roll. 1119 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: Never gonna learn. Um. I drink whenever I want to drink, 1120 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: which is on occasion, and that was coming o it's 1121 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: time to go. Other than that, No, nothing new. But 1122 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: you did get the new whip last year? Yeah, just 1123 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 1: xix that truck. I can't be out here getting uh 1124 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: buying all that other stuff you gotta have, like a 1125 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: back seat so I could put a car seat in it, 1126 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: even though I didn't put the car seat and I. 1127 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,959 Speaker 1: But now it's crazy. It's like two like you said 1128 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: two summers ago, you didn't have no money for the bus. Now, yeah, 1129 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: that's what I mean by like one side of the 1130 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: spectrum to the other. And that's why, like when I 1131 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 1: do go back to that line, I'm still like in 1132 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: the neighborhood and still moving around because I'm like, you 1133 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: guys saw me at the bus stop, like y'all saw me, 1134 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, walking sweating like down the street, you know, 1135 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 1: so I still try to keep my feet in working. 1136 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: So it's like the neighbor was really rallying behind you, 1137 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: the routing for you, and being back there yesterday. What 1138 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: I got to see after the album drop is just 1139 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: like y'all are actually proud, you know. And that makes me, 1140 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, feel really good because it's not just like 1141 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 1: here's a musician that we love. It's just like here's 1142 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: somebody that we're proud of. And it just kept saying 1143 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: like we're proud and you know, you inspire us. That's awesome. 1144 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: Congratsman on the album, Man six were out of here, 1145 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:25,240 Speaker 1: thankfully for you. Thanks six album. The yeah you ready 1146 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: you want to be that people are saying, that's what 1147 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: it needs to be speech ready. If I could try, 1148 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: if I could not try and end up at the Grammys. 1149 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: I need to be at the Grammys this year. I 1150 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: must speaking of the Grammys before we get out of here. 1151 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: I must admit that blazer that you have was very fine. 1152 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: The blazer that you wore the Grammars. Yeah, it was 1153 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: so high. I was trying to google it. I forgot 1154 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 1: what exactly it was. You know, I had to know 1155 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 1: for that day because everybody's like, what are you wearing? 1156 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: What are you wearing? But I forgot that. But you're prepared, 1157 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah you got the Grammy speech ready. But yeah, hopefully 1158 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: I ain't got to bring her own stage so she 1159 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: could be trying like this is alright, alright, sex Well, 1160 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: thank you Black, appreciate your brother, Thanks, appreciate you Grass 1161 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: on that album. Absolutely, yeah, wrap right up podcast. Yeah yeah, yeah,