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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 2: What is up Straight Fire? Ray HiT's me Jason McIntyre

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Monday, May the twelfth. Hope everybody had

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Speaker 2: a phenomenal Mother's Day weekend. I wish I could say

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Speaker 2: the basketball was great, but unfortunately it was not a

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Speaker 2: lot of blowouts. We'll get to that. We had a

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Speaker 2: huge NFL story that kind of emerged out of nowhere

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. I had a low key fire weekend. It

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Speaker 2: was kind of exhausting. As you guys know, my kids

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Speaker 2: are due. My kids do sports, and my son plays chess. Well.

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Speaker 2: He won a chess tournament Saturday, which was kind of exciting,

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Speaker 2: and he won an undisclosed amount of money. I'm not

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Speaker 2: he's liked for tax purposes. Can you not put it

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Speaker 2: was a good feeling for him. And daughter played volleyball. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: celebrate a Mother's Day with a brunch in the beach,

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Speaker 2: and I am kind of excited. I got an e bike.

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Speaker 2: I'm not one of these early adopters for a lot

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Speaker 2: which is kind of lame, but whatever. So I got

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Speaker 2: an e bike, tinkered around with that thing. I know

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Speaker 2: they sound dangerous, this is It's basically a glorified bicycle

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Speaker 2: do this new thing. Guys. There's less sports happening obviously,

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Speaker 2: so I'm trying to do less phone. I didn't get

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Speaker 2: You know, I played hoops and I'm driving my kid

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Speaker 2: all this stuff, and I'm just like thrilled to not

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Speaker 2: I'm like, holy cal wait a minute. Derek Carr was

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Speaker 2: rumored to have like a shoulder issue and he was

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Speaker 2: I mean that was pretty stunning to me. I mean,

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Speaker 2: like incredible stories about you know, why he made this decision.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we know about the degenerative shoulder issue, but he's

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Speaker 2: only thirty four years old. Think about this, Guys, A

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Speaker 2: lot of listeners to this pod in their thirties and forties.

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Speaker 2: Imagine retiring at thirty four years old. Eleven seasons, zero

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Speaker 2: play off wins, one appearance lost to the Bengals. They

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Speaker 2: if you guys remember a couple of years ago, they

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Speaker 2: remember his Raiders were the team that failed in that

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Speaker 2: doing one of these silly victory laps. Here's the interesting

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollar contract. Okay, now the Saints

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Speaker 2: From everything I've read, this is like a win for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six draft when, oh, by the way, Arch

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Speaker 2: He's never been a starter. Guys, just let's settle down.

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Speaker 2: It's a year out. Tell me the last stud quarterback

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Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler competing for the Saints job. But I do

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Speaker 2: everybody knows you know, the Manning family in their history

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Speaker 2: a win for the Saints. They we're not gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: This is their quarterback room entering the off season. Jake

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean in the short term moving forward, at

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Speaker 3: That's how you make all your money betting and things

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Speaker 3: and here's another one for you, just to illustrate, Derek

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Speaker 3: Carr was much better than you think. All time touchdowns

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Speaker 3: Most touchdowns in the first ten years of your career.

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Speaker 3: he's a punch line because people don't like to it's broke.

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Speaker 3: around ten to twelve ish quarterback for the duration of

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Speaker 3: his NFL career, and if his leg didn't snap the

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Speaker 3: way it did, if he didn't quarterback the Raiders. Quite frankly,

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Speaker 3: we'd have a different conversation about him and his career.

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I did not see that positivity

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Speaker 2: But Rob, I came away pretty unimpressed with the OKAC thunder,

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Speaker 3: You know, Hartenstein's cool, but he's a rotational.

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Speaker 2: More the defense versus jokis just being exhausted. So, by

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Speaker 2: the way, Rob, why is just interim coach having Yokics

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the kind of listen. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: We will wrap up with the other two series because

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Speaker 2: they have big games tonight, and that's the Celtics, who

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Speaker 2: just curb stomped the Knicks. It's funny. Then, tickets to

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Speaker 2: the Knicks get their ass kicked. It was seventy one

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Speaker 2: to forty six and a half never got remotely close. Peyton

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Speaker 2: we can have a series. Carl Anthony Towns came away

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Speaker 2: If the Knicks win, I think they have a chance.

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Speaker 2: I know that doesn't sound fair. As a Knicks fan.

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Speaker 2: But I'm being realistic. Okay, Tatum five threes, Peyton Pritchard

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Speaker 2: five three. So, by the way, is Jason Tatum good again?

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Speaker 2: He had twenty two nine and seven. Is he good again?

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Speaker 2: Like you lead again? Okay, just make it sure and

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Speaker 2: the next kind of you know, return to form og Andnobi,

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Speaker 2: who was a superstar in game two, Game three, just

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Speaker 2: poops his pans one for six to two points. Come on,

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Speaker 2: So these are this is what I expected for the

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Speaker 2: next But I do think tonight's skate this will be

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Speaker 2: the series.

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Speaker 1: Rob.

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Speaker 2: If the Celtics win, it's over. They're not losing the series.

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Speaker 2: If the Knicks win, I think they've got a really

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Speaker 2: good chance because all they need is one out of

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Speaker 2: three from the Celtics.

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Speaker 3: Jason, you're so right. You can't turn left right now,

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Speaker 3: like you're just going circles. You're Boston rewind. For New

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Speaker 3: York to get those two wins, Boston had to have

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Speaker 3: a historically bad shooting. I mean, you saw the numbers

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Speaker 3: you got talk about on the herd, We talked about

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Speaker 3: on the radio on Fox Sports Radio, like the wide

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Speaker 3: open percent. Is that forty five percent of their attempts

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Speaker 3: were wide open and they just missed them. You know,

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Speaker 3: all their numbers were down across the board in terms

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Speaker 3: of layups, catch and shoot threes off the dribble, threes,

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Speaker 3: corner threes, open shots, like, everything was down. So you

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Speaker 3: knew eventually it was gonna regress back to the mean,

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Speaker 3: and we saw that in game three. For New York

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Speaker 3: to even steal those two it had to be terrible.

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Speaker 3: And you win those games by what two points? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Game three, they start making the shots they were gonna

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Speaker 3: that they were missing in the first two games. And

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Speaker 3: it's never close, by the way, it's all the Jason

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Speaker 3: Tatum haters. Future Laker Jason Tatum currently leads Boston again

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Speaker 3: the entire team in points, rebounds, assistance, steals in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just just saying, you know, at some point, we

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Speaker 3: need to stop trying to litigate this guy's career after

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Speaker 3: two bad games. He's twenty seven, Like he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: a history of coming up big in the big moments. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I think Boston's gonna roll in Game four. I'm

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Speaker 3: hoping that they don't, you know, as a Laker fan,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, I would like that realistically, I just think

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Speaker 3: that Boston is a much better team than the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: Now I have not I did not gamble a cent

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Speaker 2: all weekend on the NBA. It was just too unpredictable.

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Speaker 2: It does seem like the favorites, after being shaken a

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Speaker 2: little bit, are back. I feel like Minnesota Golden State tonight. Rob,

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Speaker 2: I want to take Minnesota. I don't have a strong

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Speaker 2: take on it other than I've now seen two games

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Speaker 2: of Golden State without Steph Curry, and I don't like

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Speaker 2: what I see at all. They are unwatchable. It's basically

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Speaker 2: Jimmy but They had thirty nine points at halftime. It's essentially,

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Speaker 2: hey man, let's get the ball to Jimmy Butler, hope

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Speaker 2: he can make something happen. And if Buddy Heels locked up,

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Speaker 2: were screwed. I mean, do you expect Jonathan Comena go

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Speaker 2: Kamenka to go for thirty again? They have nothing. Draymond

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Speaker 2: is a hot heead trace Jackson Davis. That experiment failed.

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Speaker 2: They barely played. Potzemski still cannot shoot. Ye. He's clearly

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Speaker 2: a regular season guy. He was terrible in last round,

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Speaker 2: terrible in this round. I think it's over for the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Rob I like the Timberwolves to win tonight and win

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Speaker 2: the series.

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Speaker 3: I would agree with you as long as Minnesota can

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Speaker 3: stop playing what I call irresponsible basketball where they've decided, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I know Julius has been guarded by Draymond. Julie's just

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Speaker 3: go at him, and to his credit, he's been reasonably successful.

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Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, discounting that. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 3: there's easier matchups for you out there. You don't have

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Speaker 3: to go at the guy who's guarding Anthony Edwards. You

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Speaker 3: don't have to go at Gary Payton Junior and Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 2: You know, let's gets action.

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Speaker 3: Let's get something going where we can get our two

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Speaker 3: best players on a Pajemski on a Kawong somebody else,

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Speaker 3: you know, because I think that they are just taking,

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Speaker 3: you know, the easy approach on everything, and they're kind

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Speaker 3: of not taking things as seriously as they probably could.

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Speaker 3: Because when they want to put their pedals to the

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Speaker 3: medal and they want to get aggressive and they want

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Speaker 3: to do some things that are making a little more creative,

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Speaker 3: you see what happens. You know, a two point deficit

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Speaker 3: becomes a nine point lead in a minute half, Like

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Speaker 3: they could do that throughout the game, they're just choosing

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Speaker 3: not to. So if they can come in with the

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Speaker 3: right focus and the right attitude, I think they're gonna

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Speaker 3: roll here. In game four.

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Speaker 2: It also feels like Kurr's grasping its straws. In game two,

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Speaker 2: he starts, Quentin Post plays three minutes. Done. Game three,

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Speaker 2: let's start trace Jackson Davis. Hey, what happened to Moses Moody?

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Speaker 2: He played three minutes. Moses Moody was like a valuable

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Speaker 2: piece with Curry. Now he's unplayable. Comingo was like bench.

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Speaker 2: Then he played thirty six minutes and goes off and scores.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Curr's doing, and again you lose Curry.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough, so I can't blast him. But

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Speaker 2: I do like the Timberleves. I haven't bet it yet,

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Speaker 2: but I'm looking at the Timberwolves to win. I guess

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Speaker 2: I could money line them with Celtics actual money because

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Speaker 2: Minnesota covering. I don't know about that. Anthony Edwards still

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Speaker 2: hasn't found his groove. But Julius Randall, Laker killer, Julius

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Speaker 2: Randall a triple double, and I'll go with the Timberwolves tonight.

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Speaker 2: All right, folks, that is it for today's pod. We

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Speaker 2: will be back tomorrow. There should be some news on

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Speaker 2: this podcast here in the coming week or two. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: if you listen to the very end you have an

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Speaker 2: idea what I might be talking about. We'll save that

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Speaker 2: for later in the week.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you tomorrow.