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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, June third, and we've got a special

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Speaker 2: episode today. We're joined for a really nice, long, meaty

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Speaker 2: interview and I'm not just saying that because of our

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Speaker 2: pause structures, a nice big start.

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Speaker 3: Big beef, you know, keep going, keep going.

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Speaker 2: We're joined by Dan Levittar, the man that met the

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Speaker 2: Legend guy. All three of us are fans of As always,

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Speaker 2: Jenkins and Jones is hosted by my good friends, the

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Speaker 2: Jethro Jenkins aka John What's lobbas Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: and I'm Grdi b A ka Mike aka Dan Lebaton.

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Speaker 2: We we had Dan this morning. He's doing uh if

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Speaker 2: you go to YouTube and search Leviattard and Friends, he's

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Speaker 2: doing a twenty four hour live stream called Freedom with

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Speaker 2: everyone basically that you've ever seen on any of Levotard shows.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a blast twenty four hour live

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Speaker 2: stream tomorrow, so go check that out for sure. He

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Speaker 2: came on to promo that we didn't know how much

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Speaker 2: time we're gonna get with him, and he we ended

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Speaker 2: up with a really long, meaty interview John. So this

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Speaker 2: is so, this is coming out as a special episode.

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Speaker 2: We will be breaking down more NBA playoffs on our

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Speaker 2: next episode, which will be out on on Monday next week.

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Speaker 2: But I can run. We can run through the highlights.

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Speaker 2: We're sad about the Lakers, We're happy about the MAVs, Clippers.

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Speaker 4: The Celtics, the Celtics fucking imploded.

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Speaker 5: Don't take bron for granted.

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Speaker 4: Let's just enjoy every second that too. Lucas a bad motherfucker.

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Speaker 5: Lucas a cole motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Man, call we okay, I need Tyler to talk about

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Speaker 2: Lucky the Leprechaun for thirty fucking seconds.

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Speaker 6: Like I'll give you thirty seconds, okay, but for one

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna be disingenuous or naive here and act

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Speaker 6: like I don't get people upset about a logo being

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Speaker 6: stepped on. I understand how much that means some people.

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Speaker 6: But the ship that makes the shit funny is it's

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Speaker 6: a fucking Leprechaun. We got grown ass men threatened in

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Speaker 6: violence over a fucking Leprachaun named Lucky with that little

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Speaker 6: weak ass wink he got going on. This motherfucker Kyrie

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Speaker 6: stepped on a damn logo that gets stepped on a

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Speaker 6: million times per game, and these motherfuckers want to see

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Speaker 6: him in the streets for disrespecting the Leprechaun. Y'all are

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Speaker 2: The millionaires are brillionaires.

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Speaker 4: Risk it all over a leprechaun.

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Speaker 2: I do think the fact that the leprecaun is named

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Speaker 2: Lucky adds an element as well.

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Speaker 4: That's funny as you fuck with Lucky?

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Speaker 6: You fucking with me, motherfucker what I will die for

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Speaker 6: Lucky the left dah.

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Speaker 2: live for their big Freedom event. Dan, thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for coming on the show man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I'm happy to see you

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Speaker 1: guys have a platform, an earned platform now that the

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Speaker 1: content space is a little more a little more of

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Speaker 1: a meritocracy where people can see who's good and there's

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Speaker 1: not like a line to get into mainstream media. It's

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Speaker 1: good to see that you guys have a platform where

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Speaker 6: So well, Dan, first off, thank you very much for

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Speaker 6: that means a lot. But building all what you said,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think we all knew your time at

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Speaker 6: ESPN was coming to and end, like with your radio show,

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Speaker 6: was kind of unsaid, but it wasn't unacknowledged, if you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean. Like it wasn't an elephant in

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Speaker 6: It was more like like like the like the last

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Speaker 4: Like that was the vibe.

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Speaker 6: It was like the entire show was like I really

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Speaker 6: need to do this worksheet. My English teacher gave us

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Speaker 6: a homework. Come out this bitch next week. You know

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And I'm not at all saying you

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Speaker 6: which was always when the show, and you and your

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Speaker 6: all that to say this, like, you know, like what

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Speaker 6: more of a meritocracy. And you know, we kind of

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Speaker 6: had that anonymous GM Danny Ainge, We all knows you

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Speaker 6: motherfucker who said that the player empowerment era was like

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Speaker 6: the worst thing to happen in sports. But to draw

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Speaker 6: that parallel, we're kind of in the era of like

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Speaker 6: creator empowerment in the media world, like you said, where

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Speaker 6: And we came up in the era where those opportunities

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Speaker 6: You know, you kind of went all those routes. So,

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Speaker 6: so how do you feel about this, Like creator empowered

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Speaker 1: But I do see where mainstream media would be threatened

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Speaker 1: by it being made a meritocracy. I do understand why

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Speaker 1: the mainstream media looking at that and saying, wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: You got to earn your fame. You got to get

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Speaker 1: very much it's like, fuck it, We'll do it ourselves.

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Speaker 7: Sure, like this like this twenty four hour maraton this

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Speaker 7: this is crazy, it's great.

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Speaker 6: But it's it's the perfect levitard man brilliant, right right,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: So what does it take for you to veto an idea?

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Speaker 7: Like for you to be like, nah, it's ain't it

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Speaker 7: because you tend to push a lot of boundary with

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Speaker 1: I don't veto. Like our space is unplanned and no rules.

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Speaker 1: This is the most planned thing we've ever been. I

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Speaker 1: the phrase elephant in the room. Like when I got

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Speaker 1: When I came back from you know, whatever happened publicly,

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Speaker 1: my wife and I had gone and physically bought twenty

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Speaker 1: Disney Dumbo elephants Disney the name Dumbo, the head of

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party. We put it in the middle of

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Speaker 1: our studio, twenty of them hanging around everywhere, the elephant

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Speaker 1: Let's cause some sparks. People appreciate the authenticity. Look at

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Speaker 1: any good. A lot of people thought it was shit,

432
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Speaker 1: uh and and didn't like my father. But for the

433
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Speaker 1: people who do, they appreciated that part of it, that like,

434
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: how does this thing exist here? Why is it here?

435
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 1: Why is that man on television?

436
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Speaker 5: Why?

437
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: And and they were talking about my father, not me,

438
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 1: although some of them might have been talking about me dad.

439
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not gonna say fucking you got to you

440
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 6: got to quote unquote work with your dad, which I

441
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 6: imagine isn't much like work.

442
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 4: So fuck then, yeah, I love.

443
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Speaker 1: Well what you'd also like about my dad this this part.

444
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: This week, he's a favorite guy that we don't know.

445
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, as much as I'd love to

446
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 8: take credit for the genius of things, I can't say

447
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 8: that I had any idea that my father specifically was

448
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 8: the strangest thing.

449
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: And we saw it from the very beginning. You guys

450
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: are liked this story because the way my father resonated

451
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: with the black community was a really great thing for

452
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: me to watch. Uh Eudonis Haslum, who I've covered his

453
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: entire life in Miami, like, never seen him really laugh.

454
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Speaker 1: I walk into a studio one time. He is leaning

455
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: on my father uproariously laughing because they're just watching my

456
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: father doing doing you know, rap videos like he's doing

457
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: videos with with the actual artists. And it's ridiculous because

458
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: my father sounds ridiculous and he's laughing that way. And

459
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: one of the great happy accidents about what happened with

460
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Speaker 1: the show, And we saw it in a focus group

461
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: early on. We showed them like a pilot and there

462
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: were ten people in the room and you know, eight

463
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: of them are like, I don't like this. This this

464
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: is not good. And there was one young dude and

465
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Speaker 1: he actually had grills, and he was a black dude,

466
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: and he had sunglasses. In the focus group, and he

467
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: was telling everybody in the room, what you guys don't

468
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: like something fucking different. You guys want everything to look

469
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: the same. And he badgered them into better scores. Heed.

470
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: He badgered them into liking my father more than they did.

471
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: Because my I don't know, I really can't explain that.

472
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: You guys can explain.

473
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 5: It's me.

474
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: I was surprised and delighted that, like when Memorial Day

475
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: weekend happens down here in Miami, my father walks down

476
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: Ocean Drive and it's like a homecoming king in the

477
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: way that people behave around him, like he is a

478
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: amused and befuddled star among among black people in a

479
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: way that's been delightful but confusing to me.

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes your.

481
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Speaker 7: Dad beautiful, you know what I mean, Like that's your dad, yourself,

482
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 7: and we lean into at you know what I mean,

483
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 7: like you know, just being real, you feel me, So

484
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 7: I think that's what I love, you know what I mean.

485
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: I never had to wonder if that was really him

486
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: on TV.

487
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 5: Got on TV with himself I thought that was incredible.

488
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 5: You don't see that shit, you feel me everybody spend.

489
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Speaker 6: Also also also I feel like black people we hold

490
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 6: our elders in a very high That's true, right, Like

491
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Speaker 6: you see all these these TikTok challenges where white people

492
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 6: are clowning their elders. When you see black people like

493
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 6: posting videos on shit, we are having a good laugh

494
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 6: or or you know, exalting our elders, you know what

495
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 6: I mean, Like like if you specting our elders is

496
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 6: a big part of our culture. And that's kind of

497
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Speaker 6: why we kind of lead in the loving poppy the

498
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Speaker 6: way we do.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had a greater professional blessing, and I you know,

500
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: I've had some things that really, you know, can make

501
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: me emotional that I'm so moved with gratitude by them.

502
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: Then being able to spend those specific years aging with

503
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: him on television post retirement, and like be able to

504
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: give a guy who's a political exile, right, a guy

505
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: who came to this country as an engineer, a guy

506
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: who you know it was driving a nineteen sixty nine

507
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: Valiant with holes in the floorboard and a dashboard that

508
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: opened every time we hit a bump. So that I

509
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: could go to private school to make me an American dream,

510
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: so that he could sit next to me on television

511
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: and get some stardom in his second language, not knowing

512
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: very much about sports, Like I won't do better than that,

513
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm excited. This is one of the biggest days

514
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: we'll have as a show what we're doing tomorrow on

515
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: YouTube Tomorrow I do, I should say LeBatard and friends.

516
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: I need you guys to subscribe to this and support

517
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: the stuff that I'm talking about because it's important for us,

518
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: me and John Skipper to empower podcasts like this one

519
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: so they can grow and the meritocracy can be something

520
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: that allows for more content for everybody. As big a

521
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: day as that is, I don't have a greater professional

522
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: blessing than being able to work with my father for

523
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: for ten years across the worldwide leader in sports platform

524
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Speaker 1: in a way that allowed me to share him with

525
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: you and get the joy of that in adulthood. Because

526
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: the sitcom Dad is sort of gone on television as

527
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: it changes, right, Like you don't see an adult son

528
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: having a relationship with his adult father on television. It

529
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: was nice to be able to share that with the countries.

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Speaker 4: Definitely.

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Speaker 6: I was just gonna ask, you know, Dan, you know,

532
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 6: like like going back to Poppy. The big thing is

533
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 6: he's die hard Miami everything right, diehard heat fan, dieheard

534
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 6: dollfice fan. Was how did that? How did that sports

535
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 6: fandom cull devate? Was it something that when he moved

536
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 6: to Miami he adopted everything or did you kind of

537
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 6: you know, your big sports guy, did you kind of

538
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 6: grow up and kind of pull him into your world

539
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 6: or did you did he pull you into his world?

540
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Speaker 9: Like?

541
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: How did that come about?

542
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: The starting place on? This is the simplest thing, right,

543
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: And I imagine many people listening to this have a

544
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: point like this somewhere in their childhood. Like one of

545
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: the few things that I remember from my earliest childhood,

546
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: one of my earliest memories is being at the Orange Bowl.

547
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: How big his hand was, how many people were there

548
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: holding his hand? And he got bad seats. Nobody wanted

549
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: to go see the Buffalo bills. He worked in a factory.

550
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: He got the tickets nobody wanted. We packed the lunch,

551
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: didn't have any money, and sat in the worst seats

552
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: anywhere in sports, And it was the most magical place

553
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: I had ever been like I was. You know, it

554
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: felt like freedom, It felt like something outside of our

555
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: very small lives. And he wasn't a huge sports fan.

556
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: But the connection point between me and my father was

557
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: he was always working, always working, always working. I end

558
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: up playing sports, I strike out. He comes to one

559
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: of the games and a tie. I'm terrible at sports.

560
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: And his you know, he was very frustrated at how

561
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: bad I was at everything. And my mom was like, look,

562
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: I can handle everything else, everything else, but if you

563
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: want this kid to be a man, you're gonna have

564
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: to handle that because like I can't, I'm not gonna

565
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: be able to teach him how to be a man.

566
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: So you could be frustrated and embarrassed all you want,

567
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: but if you want him to be better, you're gonna

568
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: have to help with that. And from then on, my

569
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: father coached all my teams. Like he was super hard

570
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: on me, but super hard on me. Like I threw,

571
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: you know, a no hitter one time. I I you know,

572
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: I missed an All Star team one year by one vote.

573
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: His as the coach. But but but he was the yeah,

574
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: but he was the.

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00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 5: Found out that it was his vote.

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00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: It's a lifetime of suffering of never being good enough

577
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: for my father, even when I give the asshole a

578
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: television show and he steals it from me, and he

579
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: steals it.

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00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: Just right there, nuts right, you know what I mean.

581
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: That's how it happened too. I'm not lying about that.

582
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: A lifetime of scars wrapped up in insecurities and vulnerabilities

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00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: that I now concealed comedically on television because I was

584
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: never good enough for my father.

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00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: It's good you guys are doing a convincing job.

586
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 4: You can of coca mechanism the way you have, that's

587
00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: a fucking win.

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Speaker 10: Bro Right you talked about you know, I know you

589
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 10: work super hard to get where you are, but your

590
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 10: brand is very different because it's you, it's your friends,

591
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 10: you know what I mean?

592
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: Is there any point when you're wondering, like, how the fuck.

593
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 5: Did I do this?

594
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Every day? Like every every day,

595
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: I like, honest to God, I should crawl to work

596
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: with gratitude. Like again, my family, my parents didn't have freedom.

597
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: They didn't they they they fled a country where people

598
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: are literally throwing their lives to the wind, dying in

599
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: the ocean on vessels made of tires because they wanted

600
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: to get away from an absence of freedom and to

601
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: come from that to being someone who only dreamed of

602
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: being a sports writer, of just writing about sports, that

603
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: would have been enough make a modest career that way,

604
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: to be able to employ my friends, laugh with my friends,

605
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: to have work be fun, to have work be a hobby,

606
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Speaker 1: Like I don't I mean, I suppose we take everything

607
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: for granted in some ways, Like I don't know how

608
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: many times people are thinking every day that they have

609
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: hearing and how different their life would be if they

610
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: did not have hearing. But I should crawl to work

611
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: every day because I mean, imagine, I don't know what

612
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: you guys's frustrations are at work, but imagine if you

613
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: got to fuck around with your friends every day and

614
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: it just felt good, like it wasn't a suffering. And now,

615
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: more than ever, now I'm my own boss. Like now,

616
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: get everybody out of the way, because now we're really

617
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna fuck around because we don't have to answer to

618
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: anybody anymore. I want to.

619
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Speaker 2: That was what I wanted to ask you about, Dan,

620
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: And just for people who haven't followed you know, your

621
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: path out of ESPN and everything else that closely you know,

622
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: you've got John Skipper, who's you know, a guy that

623
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people sort of thought of

624
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: as mister ESPN. You guys have started meadow Lark, which

625
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: seems like it's sort of the umbrella for everything you're

626
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: talking about. The freedom, the new show, everything else. That's

627
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: what you guys are kind of operating under. You got

628
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: capitalized in a lovely way that was very public. I

629
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: know that you're not necessarily someone who personality wise wants

630
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: to be out there with all that information. Has it

631
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: been weird transitioning from kind of the counterculture guy at

632
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: the Suit Institution to you're not the counterculture anymore. You're

633
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: the face of something that's a big, legitimate, well capitalized

634
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: media company. What's that transition been like for you? Personally?

635
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: It is much much much easier to be anti establishment

636
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: from within the establishment because you have an enemy and

637
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: people are people notice it, and so we could use

638
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: an enemy, and the show will probably suffer from not

639
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: having an enemy. What I would tell the audience though,

640
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: that is attracted to our authenticity is when you ask

641
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: that question first. The transition has been terrifying. That platform

642
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: is safe, that platform is a destination I'm not a CEO.

643
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm not an entrepreneur. I don't know anything about how

644
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: to get the kids of these kids who have grown

645
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: up on my watch as producers for the show health

646
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: insurance because I'm learning all of that and I don't

647
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: use that side of my brain, like I can't handle

648
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: my bank account, so I want to focus over here,

649
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: and I'm building a company. So that's one of the

650
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Speaker 1: scary parts. But the other thing that I just don't

651
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: think people have noticed about what we're doing. When you

652
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: say I'm the face of something, the specifics of what

653
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: we just did here that to me are amazing that

654
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: I want people to see so they don't think it's

655
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: me just cashing in on something. Is DraftKings as our

656
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: first sponsor, not our only sponsor, giving us that amount

657
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: of money with no traditional mainstream media to support the

658
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: specifics of what we're doing. Think about it this way.

659
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: They just gave us the equivalent of about fifteen million

660
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: dollars year over three years to rent us, which is

661
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: more by a lot then Stephen A. Smith is being

662
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: paid by ESPN is the biggest star that we know

663
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: in this sport. But that money does not come to me.

664
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: That money is poured into the business that we are

665
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: now building. It's not me being like whoa I'm you know,

666
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm getting all this money. I'm bathing in gold coins

667
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: every night. It's it's it's poured back into a business

668
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: where everyone's going to get an equity on this thing,

669
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: so that it's not just mine, so that it really

670
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: is the family business that's a media content company with

671
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: a soul, so it has a creative spirit and everyone's

672
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: got a proprietary interest in what it is we've built,

673
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: we're building. And this ship is dangerous. You guys saw

674
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: what happened with the Button podcast, Like, this ship is dangerous.

675
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 9: I can't talk quite a bit about the butt okayuck

676
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 9: is yes, think.

677
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Speaker 1: About this though. So the pandemic starts. This is a

678
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: crazy time, a crazy time to start a business. And

679
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: and our show are in similar circumstances going into some

680
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: sort of free agency. And all I see is like

681
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: issues and problems and things I am scared of because

682
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: I do not want money coming between me and my friends,

683
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: and everyone tells you do not work with your family

684
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: and friends. And so I had to go get a

685
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: friend of mine who's a great white shark and then like,

686
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: build a business here, John, Like, please build a business

687
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: here that is that that has the soul that I want,

688
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: but that can work and make the people feel fed

689
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: and make the feel make them feel like they own it.

690
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: And so this is what we built. So we go

691
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: into free agency not knowing what we're gonna get right,

692
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: and and then the offers are about like putting our

693
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: fans behind a paywall, which would have been just rejected

694
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: and they would have been angry about it. So how

695
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: do we figure out the creative way to not put

696
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: it behind a paywalt? And it becomes fuck it, We'll

697
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: do it ourselves.

698
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: I love fucking fu and anything happen greatest.

699
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 6: You feel, I mean Dan, Dan, and you truly believe

700
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 6: you shouldn't get in a business with your friends, because you know,

701
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 6: I cann't see myself potting with anybody who I'm not

702
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 6: friends with.

703
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 4: Like a lot of podcasts come about, hey, people on.

704
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 6: The internet are like, Yo, this guy and this guy

705
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 6: will be great together and and and good for that model.

706
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 6: But I can't see myself doing this ship with anybody

707
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 6: but Mike and John.

708
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's interesting, though I don't know what the relationship

709
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: is with with the crew on or what it was

710
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: with the butt and crew. But I would say rock

711
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: bands break up. It's easy to say that when you're starting,

712
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: but inevitably, and well maybe not inevitably because it hasn't

713
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: yet happened to us. But people fight over am I

714
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: getting mine? Like? Am I? Am I getting the proper

715
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: amount of credit when the success comes like it's it's

716
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: why bands break up, and it's why creative environments like

717
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: at the end John Stewart as one example. John Stewart

718
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: is one example. His environment had become such that the

719
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: last couple of years he didn't like there wasn't a

720
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: connection point between him and other people. Letterman's environment had

721
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: totally dried up. There'd be writers he didn't talk to

722
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: for two years because it you know, Saturday Night Live.

723
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: Writers rotate, because nobody spends fifteen and twenty years in

724
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: these spaces with their friends, cultivating it without the thing

725
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: blowing apart, without people needing to go get their own thing.

726
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: Like So it's it's easier to say as you enter it, right,

727
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: but if you're real friends when you get to the

728
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: button stuff, then you can navigate it. And furthermore, I

729
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: need a lot of help to navigate it, like I'm not.

730
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: I do not want money coming between me and ste gods,

731
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't want to be responsible for

732
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: like what these people make. I need people who are

733
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: less emotional than that to make business decisions on my

734
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: behalf because I'd give everybody everything. Fuck we already have basically,

735
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: like I've asked them, like, just give everybody everything so

736
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: we can all share this, But.

737
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 4: You know they don't know what you said.

738
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 6: I don't necessarily thinks it's guys wanting theirs. I think

739
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 6: when you look at these situations where shit falls apart,

740
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 6: it's people feeling that they.

741
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: Weren't given their property.

742
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 6: And I think if you're being transparent with your friends,

743
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: if y'all are cutting the pie equal ways, I think

744
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 6: that shit is avoidable.

745
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: Honestly, I've been able to avoid it, but I'm scared

746
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: of it, is what I would say, Like, I think

747
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: there are warning signs all over the place, and maybe

748
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: it is avoidable if you are strictly vigilant and adherent

749
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: adherent to being aware that it's possible to threaten everything

750
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: in your environment, because it's the most normal thing in

751
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: the world no matter how selfless you are to wonder

752
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: and on occasion, am I being properly valued in the

753
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 1: way that I do the measurements? Because nobody cares about

754
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: your issues the way you care about your issues.

755
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 7: I think there's an amount of money when you can

756
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 7: just fuck me over, though Joe Budden made that amount

757
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 7: of money, Like if I'm making me all the way

758
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 7: whatever's above that, fuck me over or like two hundred

759
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 7: and fifty maybe even less.

760
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 5: Honestly, bro, like y'all get half on that. I'd rather

761
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 5: have the fore if you.

762
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 2: Made that for if you made that for fifteen years. Yeah,

763
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: but what I mean it's five hundred KAN. I just

764
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: I think that's where it goes sideways for some people.

765
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: Is five hundred K to us sounds like five hundred K,

766
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 2: But to Steven A. Smith or Joe Buden or whatever,

767
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: that doesn't sound like the same amount of money.

768
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: I'd go another step on that, though I know I'd

769
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: go another step on that, like this thing has all

770
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: been inverted, Like you guys have crawled through so much

771
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: shit to just get to where the microphones are, to

772
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: get the chance that you have a profound gratitude because

773
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: you've worked real jobs. On Wait a minute, You're gonna

774
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: give me legitimate money to do this, to do this

775
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: with my this ridiculous thing of yes, I'm gonna smoke

776
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: dope and laugh with my friends and there's not gonna

777
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: be drug testing over.

778
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 11: Here, like like yeah, right, And so you're like, you're

779
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 11: you're gonna pay me half a million dollars and I'm

780
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 11: gonna come in here baked and do this show with

781
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 11: my friend and nobody's gonna know that we're on gummies,

782
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 11: and I'm gonna be treated as a media professional.

783
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 7: Whatever you want to do outside of that, bro, that's

784
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 7: all that matters, you know what I mean?

785
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: Like you said, we've had real jobs.

786
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 7: We fucking hated every day going into So if I'm

787
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 7: gonna be with my friends, but yeah, like you said,

788
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 7: I mean, people want their propers, I guess you know.

789
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 5: But hey man, I just want my homies. You feel me? No,

790
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 5: May you may you stay that?

791
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: May you stay that grateful because I'm telling you that

792
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: I have, and it has served me in in avoiding

793
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: some of these landmines because I think the people that

794
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: I work with know that I like I our company,

795
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: Metal Lark Media, like everyone, I'm talking to and there's

796
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: a line out the door of people who are like,

797
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: get me in there. I want to figure out how

798
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: to get in there. I'm trying to figure out how

799
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: do we make this your dream job so that you're

800
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: having maximum fun with something that you're doing, so that

801
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: you're doing your best work. And it's our job or

802
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: the business's job, to figure out how to monetize your

803
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: your best work. Because you're a talented person that we have.

804
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: We think UH can do great work in this space.

805
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 5: And we can see it on the when you with

806
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: your when you're talking to it.

807
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 7: You know when you're on the pods that there's a

808
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 7: so much love there and respect between each other.

809
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, And that's your brand. You

810
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 5: know what I mean, and that's important.

811
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you guys noticing that though, right, because

812
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't like, are the stickiest of our fans, and

813
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: i'd argue, I'd argue that in the history of this medium,

814
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't think and when I say this medium, it's

815
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: sports radio, so it's a low bar. I don't think

816
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: that there has been an audience this fear fiercely loyal

817
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: because they because they see those specific things that the

818
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: discerning see and they're like, well, we get the show,

819
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: we get what this is about. We get that this

820
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: is just the loving space where people are enjoying each

821
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: other's company. And I want to be a part of

822
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: that too. I want to feel like these people are

823
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: my friends too.

824
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely. I feel like you could point to

825
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing you or your show to their show,

826
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: but it feels more like Howard Stern, you know.

827
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 5: What I mean.

828
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: There's not really in sports that kind of an audience,

829
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like it feels like

830
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: you have to go outside of sports to find a

831
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: similar relationship. I totally agree with that.

832
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: I will tell you something that I have not told

833
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: anybody because I don't know the Howard Stern Show, but

834
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people who understand the genius of the

835
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: community that he created with rebellion and anti establishment have

836
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: said in our space that we're the closest thing that's existed,

837
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: certainly in sports, to the ensemble ad libbing comedy troupe

838
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: that is, you know, funny to look in on because

839
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: it's a show about a show and everybody's a little

840
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: bit weird. We had a great offer to be like

841
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: the sports air apparent on Serious Satellite Radio to Howard Stern,

842
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: and we didn't want to put our fans behind a paywall.

843
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: We didn't want to turn them into credit cards. And

844
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: that is part of why it is that we chose,

845
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: like we almost had to choose that it would have

846
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: been a bad option. It would have been it would

847
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: have been a great option like that Serious XM was

848
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: really good to us and it was super tempting. But

849
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: this one is better because it doesn't It has total

850
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: freedom and it allows us. It has total freedom for us,

851
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: and it's literally free for our audience.

852
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: I think there's there's all of these little fights going

853
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: on in media's like the paywall is such a big

854
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: part of that, you know, for your old newspaper, for

855
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 2: every sort of local outlet like that. Figuring that out

856
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: is going to be part of this next step. I

857
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: think we've we've talked about a lot of smart stuff

858
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: including media, you know, future for media ship. My question

859
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: for you is how much do you think we do

860
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: or don't look alike Dan, Because every time we post

861
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: a video, every time we post a video, we get

862
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: at least ten comments like that's so cool that leviatars

863
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: hanging out with.

864
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: One. I'm sorry, start there, two all you're getting there.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of men in this

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Speaker 1: country are getting this. I don't think many women are.

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Speaker 1: I hope for their sake they aren't. It is everything

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Speaker 1: about merely having a beard and having a fat face.

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Speaker 1: If you combine those two things, okay, if you combine that,

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Speaker 1: you look a little swollen, a little unhealthy, a little cartoonish,

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Speaker 1: a little uh like, spherical, like the perfect the fat

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Speaker 1: is in perfect symmetry on your face in order to

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Speaker 1: make it bulbous. There's not much. We're wearing the beard

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Speaker 1: to hide our chins and we we, yeah, are The

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Speaker 1: hair in our face looks like it's trying to get

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Speaker 1: away from us. And behind that is just sort of

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Speaker 1: an engorged pink swelling that feels.

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Speaker 5: How fire you as up by fire him up.

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Speaker 9: So that's that's the most delicate flame ever pointing. It's

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Speaker 9: like shooting yourself in the chest and getting the person

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Speaker 9: behind you.

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Speaker 6: Like I've been saying, it's the hats too, man, Like

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Speaker 6: people don't know Dan Dan is a hat guy, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Like, a lot of people don't really know that, but

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Speaker 4: Dan is a hat.

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Speaker 6: Dude, like like that might be my brother might be

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Speaker 6: another part of while black. Yeah, I know you had

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Speaker 6: the libo thinging your brother's an artist in Miami, so yeah, well.

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Speaker 1: That that was one of the reasons, like the backstory

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Speaker 1: on us ending up at ESPN, And I mean it

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Speaker 1: is no disparagement to ESPN that we never wanted to

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Speaker 1: be there. But you guys, knowing a little bit about

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Speaker 1: what we do, would understand why I would not like

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Speaker 1: rules or corporate rules or any of that stuff. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I just wanted it to be a little Miami show,

897
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Speaker 1: always to be a little Miami show because I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: regionally proud in this area was built by people like

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Speaker 1: my exile parents. But what they said to me is,

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Speaker 1: we will let your brother do the art on the show.

901
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: We will let your father do it with you. I

902
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: wanted something that could be more Miami than what I

903
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Speaker 1: was already doing, and I didn't think there could be

904
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Speaker 1: such a thing. But you put it on Ocean Drive.

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Speaker 1: You give me those things, and you let me wear

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Speaker 1: my brother's hats and look like a fifty two year

907
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Speaker 1: old skateboarder, fat skateboarder holding on trying desperately to hold

908
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Speaker 1: on to his youth against the threat of you people

909
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: coming with your microphones with your mind. And I didn't

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Speaker 1: mean you people the way I'd better not get aggregated

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Speaker 1: for you people.

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Speaker 11: I meant just podcasters with microphones in general of indistrained race.

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Speaker 2: Clif dancing, indiscriminate race shit.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you coming on though.

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Speaker 7: Man, my buddy Mike Cardozo put me on hes actually

916
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 7: Cuban and Lis in Miami when he's a huge fan

917
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Speaker 7: of yours. Man, so ever since then, I've been a

918
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Speaker 7: big fan of you, but I appreciate you coming.

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Speaker 2: Off with So before we let Dan go once again,

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Speaker 2: hit YouTube subscribe to LeBatard and Friends The Freedom twenty

921
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Speaker 2: four hour live stream. We'll be going from noon Friday

922
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Speaker 2: to noon Saturday. Go look at that lineup. We didn't

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Speaker 2: plug all the people on the lineup, but it's I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's everyone that you would want to see with the

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Speaker 2: with the with the crew.

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Speaker 5: Dan.

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Speaker 2: How before we get out of how excited are you

928
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Speaker 2: for the light stream? How crazy is that going to be?

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Speaker 1: It is the most exciting day I would say that

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Speaker 1: we have ever had doing this because we have a

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Speaker 1: connection with our audience that is unique. This is a

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Speaker 1: challenge and a risk that is scary, but we also

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Speaker 1: think that the audience will be along for the ride

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Speaker 1: in the new media age of you know, empowerment that

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Speaker 1: we're going to be able to I'm a fifty two

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Speaker 1: year old man who I believe we're going to be

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Speaker 1: able to produce all sorts of things that go viral

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Speaker 1: simply because we're a bunch of people who love each

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Speaker 1: other getting together and laughing about shit and things going

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Speaker 1: to go wrong, and who knows why it's going to

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Speaker 1: gather a crowd, what the things are that create it.

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Speaker 1: But we are doing something for the audience that is

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Speaker 1: symbolically about freedom, about loving each other, about what you

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Speaker 1: can do in creative spaces when you have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of support and when you love the people around you.

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Speaker 1: So for the discerning listeners that really like what we

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Speaker 1: do for reasons that are authentic, I'm really excited to

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Speaker 1: put in front of them what is basically eight straight shows, right,

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Speaker 1: it's two weeks worth of We're doing three pot three

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Speaker 1: a week now, so it's two and a half weeks

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Speaker 1: of shows in one day. With all we got the

952
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Speaker 1: movie Festival lineup but we got calls out to Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and at Riley, and you know, all sorts of

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Speaker 1: people are gonna be coming through there, just sort of

955
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Speaker 1: popping in and hopefully it's a lot of fun for

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Speaker 1: the audience. Thank you guys for bringing it up and

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Speaker 1: to the listeners. Just it's really easy Lebatar and friends

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Speaker 1: and YouTube. Thank you guys for supporting the stuff that

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Speaker 1: we do the way you do.

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Speaker 7: More dumb question, what's the most important part of a

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Speaker 7: peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

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Speaker 5: The peanut butter or the jelly?

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Speaker 2: Motherfucker?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gotta be any crunchy peanut butter, right,

965
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Speaker 1: how can it be that? How can it be the jelly?

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Speaker 1: What's what's the matt?

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Speaker 2: First of all, a tailor make the argument, but as.

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Speaker 1: A I'm disgusted with my fellow fat friend over here,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just mortified by you choosing the sugar over

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Speaker 1: the cream. But you've got to go with the crunchy

971
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Speaker 1: peanut butter, Like, what's the matter?

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Speaker 4: What would be your your your reasoning here?

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Speaker 6: Because I feel like people who say the peanut butter

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Speaker 6: is like, oh, you need a lot more peanut butter

975
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Speaker 6: than jelly to make it the peanut butter.

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Speaker 4: Just and I totally agree.

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Speaker 6: But on the same stance, I feel like, you know,

978
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Speaker 6: you need fucking five offensive lineman, but you need one quarterback.

979
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Speaker 6: You need one quarterback. Who's that guy? And Jelly is

980
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Speaker 6: that guy? And that's the scenario.

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Speaker 1: What tastes better? Do you a jelly sandwich or a

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Speaker 1: peanut butter sam, I don't eat peanut butter sandwich. Peanut

983
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Speaker 1: butter sandwiches are disgusting and honest, I mean.

984
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Speaker 5: You're talking about that.

985
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Speaker 1: You're singing the merits of Pippin when I got Jordan.

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Speaker 7: In this situation, it is Harry, it's carrying bro It's

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Speaker 7: a biscuits more important, No, it's more.

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Speaker 4: You need more peanut butter than jelly to make a

989
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Speaker 4: good peanut butter and jelly sanwich.

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Speaker 5: I need more jelly than you need more biscuit than

991
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Speaker 5: jelly too. Does that make jelly more No?

992
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 6: You need more peanut butter than jelly to make a

994
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Speaker 6: good peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Right, Jelly, it's the

995
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Speaker 6: thing you were one here, but I'm saying, and a

996
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 6: jelly jelly biscuit, what's you need.

997
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Speaker 7: There's more biscuit than jelly, but the biscuit is more important.

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Speaker 4: Bro, you how good with a peanut butter biscuit be?

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00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 5: You said, what?

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00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: How good would a peanut butter biscuit b?

1001
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Speaker 5: What with a peanut butter on turkey leg be?

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Speaker 6: We can, we can do a whole bunch of No,

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Speaker 6: you'll break it up, biskeuys, don't break turkey legs up.

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Speaker 4: How good would a peanut butter biscuit be?

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Speaker 3: First of all, peanut butter on a turkey leg would

1006
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Speaker 3: be delicious, because peanut butter is always delicious. I could

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Speaker 3: put it on my leg or dog feces, and it's peanut.

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Speaker 4: B from a biscuit. Though let's not run from the biscuit.

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Speaker 6: A peanut butter biscuit would be a fucking a manslaughter

1010
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Speaker 6: charge if you give that to somebody.

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Speaker 4: Jelly is delicious.

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Speaker 5: What's sandwich? What's a jelly sandwich? Peanut butter?

1013
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: Serial killers?

1014
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 7: But a peanut butter jelly, peanut butter sand which you

1015
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 7: give to your kids?

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1017
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 4: Come on, bro, listen, BRO.

1018
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: I would consider if you told me I could be

1019
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Speaker 1: someone who had peanut butter in my life at all times.

1020
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Speaker 1: But the only way I could have it is if

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Speaker 1: I were a cannibal, I might think about eating you

1022
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Speaker 1: three with peanut butter, because peanut butter is so important.

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Speaker 2: You love to.

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Speaker 4: He's a huge peanut butter dude. Which is part of

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Speaker 4: this out.

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Speaker 10: Everybody else said peanut butter too, literally, everybody but but

1027
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 10: but the Marcus cause.

1028
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: We had cousin but you come on, we we did,

1029
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: we did. We started to pour out here, Dan. The

1030
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: first answer was Jelly, if we've been getting dragged for the.

1031
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Speaker 1: Streets, I love how crushed you are, Like, you're just

1032
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: you're disappointed in me, You're disappointing in yourselves. You're like

1033
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: I thought Jelly was good enough. But this guy, he's

1034
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: he's so, he's so pervent about it. He's a cannibal.

1035
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: I might want to be careful.

1036
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 6: I can't believe you're that big of a peanut butter guy, say,

1037
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 6: being a peanut butter guy and a peanut butter and

1038
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 6: Jelly saying, which debate, but being that big of a

1039
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 6: peanut butter solo guy.

1040
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: I'm I'm a big disappointed Dan.

1041
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: There is nothing surprising. Look at my face. There is

1042
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: nothing surprising about the fact that I love peanut butter nothing.

1043
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: You got this way off fats and I got this

1044
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: way off sugar. It's okay, but we can we can

1045
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: all exist in one happy sandwich goes to so we

1046
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,479
Speaker 2: have aatarted friends on YouTube. Check out Freedom all Day

1047
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: Friday through Saturday. Dan, thank you so much for coming

1048
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: on other shows.

1049
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 5: I really appreciate you.

1050
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Please keep fighting, guys, keep fighting out here, don't let

1051
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: anybody stop you, and don't play by too many of

1052
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: the rules.

1053
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 5: Love it all right.

1054
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: Thanks so much to Dan for joining us. Uh. Just

1055
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 2: one of the most interesting dudes in sports man honestly,

1056
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: And I'm not someone who gives a fuck about like

1057
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: sports media generally, you know, But I'm always interested for

1058
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: his perspective on stuff. And I'm definitely fascinated to see

1059
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: where they go with that live stream tomorrow.

1060
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and very weird, very thoughtful, very fun, very Dan Levatar,

1061
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Speaker 7: you know.

1062
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Speaker 6: And Dan doesn't necessarily give a fuck about sports media either.

1063
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 6: If you listen to a show like like sports are

1064
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 6: are cool to talk about. But he's down to go

1065
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 6: wherever the fucking discussion takes. And that's what I love

1066
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 6: about him. And that's that's that's what everyone loves.

1067
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 2: About one hundred percent. We appreciate him coming on the show.

1068
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Speaker 2: As I said, we will be back on Monday next

1069
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: week breaking down NBA playoffs. Uh so sorry you didn't

1070
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: get to hear us cry about the lake. Here's I'm

1071
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: sure it'll all be over on Monday. Uh you can

1072
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: hear us.

1073
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 5: Cry about it then.

1074
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Speaker 2: So bye byeye h