Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
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Speaker 1: Season four, Episode two Things I forgot at birth? Why
Speaker 1: is everybody a stalker? That's just what I want to know,
Speaker 1: because we're teenagers. This is my takeaway. Oh man, it's
Speaker 1: a sloppy one. Brooks Birthday I forgot. Wait, I thought
Speaker 1: you had a summer birthday. I didn't realize that Brooke
Speaker 1: was an October birthday. Well it isn't. Brooks birthday is
Speaker 1: March fourth, what yeah? So, but I don't know why
Speaker 1: this aired on October four. But remember every season of
Speaker 1: our show was a semester. I guess in high school,
Speaker 1: so like we were doing annual years, but the show
Speaker 1: was only doing six month periods, so it made everything
Speaker 1: a little sticky in that like second semester every year.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Listen, hey, I gotta give
Speaker 1: it to the fans then for like keeping track of that,
Speaker 1: like and yeah, because you know what it is. It's
Speaker 1: it's about to be playoffs and March madness is obviously
Speaker 1: in March. Girl, you read these signs sports, I'm just like, wait, second,
Speaker 1: it's October fourth, What is that? What's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This air October four, two thousand six. God you guys,
Speaker 1: Joyce here, she's here. You got here just in time
Speaker 1: for the synopsis. Tell them about your traffic, your traffic fiasco.
Speaker 1: Um No, I was just on my way back from
Speaker 1: my writing session of working on some music, and on
Speaker 1: my way back, I'm just getting to know the highways here,
Speaker 1: so I missed my exit. You know, of course one
Speaker 1: time I'm really in a rashow. I'm here, we got you.
Speaker 1: We're just reading the synopsis. You watched the episode earlier.
Speaker 1: Cooper's life remains uh, precaring, Like his life remains precarious,
Speaker 1: hanging precariously in the bad. It feels like a weird sense.
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to say. Anyway. Nathan still struggling
Speaker 1: with what happened in that river. Brook celebrates her big
Speaker 1: eighteenth birthday, but finds it diminished by her struggles with Peyton.
Speaker 1: Lucas and Karen come to terms with her pregnancy while
Speaker 1: also trying to figure out who's pregnancy tests they found
Speaker 1: in the purse and Deb's past addictions. Intersect with Haley
Speaker 1: in an explosive manner. Good, God that was that was
Speaker 1: Like that was upsetting? Yeah, for sure, I just I
Speaker 1: didn't like it. I will say what I What I
Speaker 1: like so much in this episode is the misdirect with
Speaker 1: Brooke and Haley about who's pregnant, because it's one of
Speaker 1: the better things that they've done in terms of the
Speaker 1: fact that you just really don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: And I watched it like it's like when you've seen
Speaker 1: The Sixth Sense and you know the ending and then
Speaker 1: you go back to watch the need to figure out
Speaker 1: if they were telling you about the ending the whole time,
Speaker 1: and you realize that they were. Like I watched that
Speaker 1: scene of us in the back of Karen's cafe like
Speaker 1: a hawk, just being like, who says exactly what? And
Speaker 1: how did we do this? And God, it was good.
Speaker 1: It was really saying, uh, it's it's gonna be okay, right,
Speaker 1: And I remember because I kind of I was like,
Speaker 1: why is she asking me if it's okay? I'm the
Speaker 1: one who's freaking out. But then that's the mr. The
Speaker 1: audience doesn't know. Yeah, everyone's really thinks it's brooke. And
Speaker 1: with with Rachel catching her and and the perfume you
Speaker 1: know that Lucas talks about before the pregnancy test was
Speaker 1: in a purse with your perfume minute, you know, like
Speaker 1: it really the writers did a good job of really
Speaker 1: making you lean to think that that's what it was,
Speaker 1: even with Haley saying did you guys ever talk about it?
Speaker 1: And then Brook asking the question and these girls talking
Speaker 1: about their experiences, you know, in their young intimate relationships.
Speaker 1: When Haley goes to Karen and she's like, boy, that
Speaker 1: must have been really hard for you at seventeen, and
Speaker 1: you know she's wishing. But they also remind the audience
Speaker 1: when you're like, hey, have you ever dealt with this?
Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, last year when I had the scare,
Speaker 1: which means like, yeah, I'm sexually active. Yeah, I've had
Speaker 1: scares in the past. And Haley's like, well, we got
Speaker 1: in a fight about birth control, which makes you think like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Haley is on birth control. It couldn't possibly be her.
Speaker 1: They've already had this fight, don't don't a little bit
Speaker 1: of exposition. Yeah, this was This was a big episode.
Speaker 1: This was like packed. Well, there were so many things
Speaker 1: I loved. I loved seeing the river Court even just
Speaker 1: so much. Skills, so many like moments with Skills finally
Speaker 1: coming back, and those shots um when Barry and Chad
Speaker 1: were in the car and you could see not just
Speaker 1: the River Court but then passed it onto Front Street
Speaker 1: or Water Street across the river. I miss seeing those. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And because we did all that lighting, like we lit
Speaker 1: down down and then the lights stayed up and it
Speaker 1: became this really iconic vista. I just about fell out
Speaker 1: of my chair when Hillary rolls up in the comment
Speaker 1: and Skills goes, hey, home wrecker. Here is how I
Speaker 1: want all of you to say hello to me from
Speaker 1: now on. Do you remember was I'm turning so red
Speaker 1: that made me laugh so hard? Was that in the
Speaker 1: script or did Antoine just yell that at you man? Listen.
Speaker 1: That's the best part about working with Antoine is that
Speaker 1: his lines were funnier than the lines that are on paper,
Speaker 1: and they would try all the time to try to
Speaker 1: match his cadence and his rhythm and just like the
Speaker 1: way that he talks, and it was always just like
Speaker 1: white people writing for a black man, and it sounded
Speaker 1: so forced and dumb, and so Antoine very well could
Speaker 1: have have written that or come up with it on
Speaker 1: the spot. But what I like about him is that
Speaker 1: he commits to the material. And when we're in Peyton's
Speaker 1: room and he's like asking about records and he's teasing
Speaker 1: her about like this sounds like a lot of white
Speaker 1: girl drama, and he's just leaning into it. He can
Speaker 1: just take a scene that could be like awkward and
Speaker 1: clunky and make it funny. It is a skill set
Speaker 1: I don't have. And so I'm en Vince Vaughan thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know how Vince Vaughan can just you
Speaker 1: just drop room and he'll just go until something happens. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Antoine is the same way. Yeah, we were lucky.
Speaker 1: We're seeing more and more and more of him. They've
Speaker 1: put him in the new opening credits um, which is
Speaker 1: great and our show need at that. Our diversity problem
Speaker 1: is major huge huge, Um. So, yeah, I and I
Speaker 1: like that Skills is going to be on the team.
Speaker 1: I think it was cool to watch before we even
Speaker 1: like round, like came back to it at the end
Speaker 1: of the episode, watching that first scene where Luke takes
Speaker 1: Barry to the river court and does the same exact
Speaker 1: thing that Keith did in the pilot. It is great.
Speaker 1: That's right. I forgot about that hill. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: you've got you've got Nathan telling the whole story of
Speaker 1: like Keith was with me in the car, and you've
Speaker 1: got Luke emulating Keith's behavior. You know the effects, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: those are the Luke's drives Keith's car now, and yeah
Speaker 1: that you see his influence everywhere, and it's really cool
Speaker 1: to see his positive influence on the boys while the
Speaker 1: absence of him is making Dan Scott crazy, Like Dan
Speaker 1: is losing his mind, he's hallucinating, he's miss hearing things
Speaker 1: that you know. The UPS guy comes in and he says,
Speaker 1: signed here Mr Mayor, but he hears Mr Murderer. Mr
Speaker 1: works at the way the way Paul looks at the
Speaker 1: UPS guy. Did you make a note about that? Because
Speaker 1: I did, I did, I totally did. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: if there was someone in political office that you go like,
Speaker 1: you're just there to drop off a package, and they'd
Speaker 1: say they stare at you and glare at you, and
Speaker 1: they're like, from now on, just leave the package to
Speaker 1: the front door. So I'd be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I do not want this person in charge in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. Paranoid right now and be like are
Speaker 1: you okay? No one in the Scott family is okay.
Speaker 1: Dan's losing his debs, like nearly causing a shooting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then having these crazy visions and fears. Um. For
Speaker 1: the episode in a Row, I know, listen, they worked
Speaker 1: that water tank and they were like, we're going to
Speaker 1: fit this water work that's very expensive into no less
Speaker 1: than six episodes. We are making this work. We got
Speaker 1: to invest. Yeah, Barbara's great. I love watching her work.
Speaker 1: I love the things that she creates. Um. I love
Speaker 1: the scene with Moira. I don't know if you, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you've ever talked with someone who is high in
Speaker 1: a really troubling way. It was so realistic because that
Speaker 1: her total lack of concern and actual She was laughing
Speaker 1: at her, like you are so uptight. This is ridiculous
Speaker 1: um and seeing Moira really drop into this, really drop
Speaker 1: into this fear um and like, you're not going to
Speaker 1: threaten seventeen years of my business just because you're stressed
Speaker 1: out and you know your life is falling apart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very it was realistic and yeah, troubling. As
Speaker 1: you said, Sophia, it was really bothered me. Well, it
Speaker 1: kind of it was like light and any like oh
Speaker 1: ha ha gun went off to the cafe today. We
Speaker 1: both screamed, like when when the scene happened, Hillary and
Speaker 1: I both shouted. We were so startled, and it's terrifying.
Speaker 1: And you're right, it is really interesting to see somebody, yes,
Speaker 1: who's struggling, but like, look, Deb's acting out. She's afraid,
Speaker 1: so she's masking and she's acting out. She's saying, I
Speaker 1: want to feel better, I want to feel good. I
Speaker 1: don't care what it does to anybody around me. And
Speaker 1: and Karen comes in with such vulnerability and says, you
Speaker 1: will not do this. You need help. What you're doing
Speaker 1: is hurting you, it's hurting me, and it's hurting this business.
Speaker 1: And I got to set up a boundary. And Dev's
Speaker 1: just not ready to hear it. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: that thing that they say when we talked about this
Speaker 1: a little bit last week, right, like you have to
Speaker 1: be willing to look in and excavate and when you
Speaker 1: when you have to layer the things people need to
Speaker 1: heal from with addiction and and where that can send people.
Speaker 1: You know, It's why they say, like nobody gets sober
Speaker 1: until they're ready. Sometimes you have to send people to
Speaker 1: rehab three times. Sometimes there have to be multiple interventions
Speaker 1: with family, and those people who lead those interventions always say,
Speaker 1: you have to set up a boundary. You cannot be
Speaker 1: an enabler. And it's wild in this adult female friendship
Speaker 1: to watch Karen trying to set up a boundary and
Speaker 1: deb trying to hold onto her dignity and the last pills.
Speaker 1: Oh god, Okay, So here's what I loved about that
Speaker 1: moment because I had a couple of these moments with
Speaker 1: our writer where something would be scripted to be really
Speaker 1: really bitchy and instead like we would choose to play
Speaker 1: it really vulnerable or really earnest, and it would bug
Speaker 1: them And the last us two lines of the of
Speaker 1: the scene are it's an altoyd and Deb like plops
Speaker 1: it on her purse anyway, And I know exactly how
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be scripted. It was supposed to
Speaker 1: be like a bitchy judge line from Karen, like a
Speaker 1: little button not on the scene, it's cute, And instead
Speaker 1: she played it like it was breaking her heart to
Speaker 1: say it. And so when deb popped it in her
Speaker 1: purse anyway, it hurts so bad instead of being a
Speaker 1: bitchy moment between women who were shrews, you know. And
Speaker 1: I just I love that you caught that. I was
Speaker 1: so happy Moira made that choice because it's not what
Speaker 1: was on the paper at all. That was something that
Speaker 1: we had to do a lot on this show when
Speaker 1: we would have because we had so many guest directors
Speaker 1: come in and most of the time they think they
Speaker 1: just wanted to stick with what was on the page.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to make waves. There were a lot of
Speaker 1: people coming in who were newbie directors and wanted to um,
Speaker 1: not rock the boat. They just want to maintain a
Speaker 1: good standing in their reputation and um and so whatever
Speaker 1: the producers were telling them, this is how the line
Speaker 1: should be read, is how they were instructed to instruct us.
Speaker 1: And you know, we were getting to a point now
Speaker 1: where four years in this show was ours. Now we
Speaker 1: knew these characters, we knew what we were doing, and
Speaker 1: I encountered the struggle a lot. I think you guys
Speaker 1: did too, where the directors would tell us, okay, we
Speaker 1: have all right, great, we have it basically, we have
Speaker 1: it your way, all right, we got that. That's great,
Speaker 1: so we just give me one. Just do one the
Speaker 1: way it's scripted on the page, you know, just one,
Speaker 1: and we would we would accommodate often until we figured out,
Speaker 1: oh wait, that's that ends up always being the only
Speaker 1: take they use. They always inevitably use the tape um
Speaker 1: that that wasn't really true to our character. And so
Speaker 1: we would have to wrestle a lot with some of
Speaker 1: these directors and be like, look, I'm sorry, I'm realized
Speaker 1: this might reflect on you and you might get in
Speaker 1: trouble for not being able to force me to do it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, just blame me. I'm telling you I know
Speaker 1: the best way for this thing to go down. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Did you guys experience that? Yeah? And and look,
Speaker 1: I think what's kind of tough about knowing what to
Speaker 1: do in those situations is, yes, sometimes we do know
Speaker 1: the right thing for our characters, and directors are responsible
Speaker 1: for building the roller coaster, so they know, like what
Speaker 1: track from scene eight is needed in scene nine to
Speaker 1: connect it to scene ten, Like they have to build
Speaker 1: that track to be able to carry the car. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's not that they were always wrong, it's just well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like having been in the director's chair, I've
Speaker 1: also experienced when somebody just cannot get out of their
Speaker 1: own way to help like build the scene. And and
Speaker 1: what I think becomes the really tricky kind of high
Speaker 1: I aer act is figuring out how to really be
Speaker 1: your character's best champion and be a really good team player.
Speaker 1: And what I thought, yeah, and what I thought was
Speaker 1: was always important for us was knowing the way I
Speaker 1: felt like I began to know the difference was being
Speaker 1: able to see what directors had done their homework and
Speaker 1: knew the shape of the roller coaster versus the ones
Speaker 1: who were parroting something that I knew they didn't believe in.
Speaker 1: But they've been told that there and you can tell
Speaker 1: you start to tell after you do this long enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and that that then has become a really interesting
Speaker 1: thing for me, you know, post our show like on
Speaker 1: other jobs, being able to make sure um as a producer,
Speaker 1: as a co star that I know why we're advocating
Speaker 1: for the things we are and if somebody can punch
Speaker 1: holes in it, it means our argument sucks and we
Speaker 1: need a better one, you know. Yeah, And it's and
Speaker 1: it's so refreshing, I think to be at a place
Speaker 1: in our careers where we work with people who actually
Speaker 1: talk to us about what's going on. Instead of saying, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I I really just believe in this for your character.
Speaker 1: It's like, do you just need it for the shot?
Speaker 1: Because if you do, just tell me that. Do you
Speaker 1: need her just to stand on the bridge? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: There were some directors who had come in and I've
Speaker 1: seen this on other jobs too, where they're like, listen,
Speaker 1: I realize it makes no sense for you to say
Speaker 1: the line this way, or to walk across the room
Speaker 1: after you say this line or whatever. Can we please like,
Speaker 1: we have to find a way to make this work
Speaker 1: and here's why. And then they it's either the hours
Speaker 1: of the day that we're in or you know, I
Speaker 1: have to get you over there because they're dying for
Speaker 1: this transition shot and there's too many people you mean
Speaker 1: the door, the door I need, Yeah, whatever, the door.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I'm totally happy to help with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is really interesting. So it's cool when you see
Speaker 1: I guess that's what it is, right, It's like seeing
Speaker 1: these women you just want to be trusted with it.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but but this scene I think we love
Speaker 1: because we're seeing these women who were the seasoned professionals
Speaker 1: that we are now, who said, oh, we're going to
Speaker 1: do something so much more real with this dumb thing
Speaker 1: that some guy wrote, you know, yeah, like and they
Speaker 1: made it heartbreaking and you saw how sad it made
Speaker 1: Moira to say it, and you saw it hit Barbara.
Speaker 1: But her pride wouldn't let her let Karen see it,
Speaker 1: and so she made this flourished gesture with her hand
Speaker 1: that was very like, well i'm you, I'm leaving, and
Speaker 1: and all of it was actually pain and oh it's delicious,
Speaker 1: Like that's a delicious scene to watch. Also, Barbara had
Speaker 1: to commit to some heinis in this episode. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's just address it. Uh. There's the scene where deb
Speaker 1: has a customer up a complain and she attacks the
Speaker 1: way this woman's body looks, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: we cast Always Wrestle with the always for that, Like,
Speaker 1: I just it was also Fhia said while we watched,
Speaker 1: She's like, it's literally the only dig that our writer
Speaker 1: knew how to make against women. Yeah, it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna attack your weight because in the same episode,
Speaker 1: Lucas is talking about Peyton's chicken e legs. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just like the female body shape was the target. Um,
Speaker 1: it's and it's gross and it's cheap. It's so cheap,
Speaker 1: such low hanging fruit, for sure, But Barbara had to
Speaker 1: do it because the whole point was that Deb's behavior
Speaker 1: was like character. Yeah, but like can you imagine getting
Speaker 1: that script? And that's hard to Yeah, how do we
Speaker 1: cast for that? How do you I mean, how do
Speaker 1: you get that call? As an actor? You're sitting at
Speaker 1: home and your agent calls and says, here's the sides.
Speaker 1: But you know, like as an agent, how do you
Speaker 1: send that to I mean, this is I'd really like
Speaker 1: to know how they pull that off. Now it's all
Speaker 1: just bad. Well, hopefully it's like not a problem anymore,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, maybe we get
Speaker 1: to a place where it's like those jokes aren't the
Speaker 1: jokes we tell because they're not funny. Well, they're not
Speaker 1: funny and they're incredibly lazy. You know. There was there
Speaker 1: was a big debate years ago with a bunch of
Speaker 1: male comics about how maybe they should stop making jokes
Speaker 1: about sexual assault, like just stop, it's not funny. And
Speaker 1: you know, all these guys said, well, we have a
Speaker 1: right to joke about whatever we want. And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe be funnier then, maybe be better writers, maybe observe
Speaker 1: something in society that has anything to do with you
Speaker 1: not being a total And that's the way I feel
Speaker 1: about like men who do this stuff. I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: what you're really doing is telling me you're lazy and
Speaker 1: that you don't want to work harder to be better
Speaker 1: at the thing that you claim as you chosen career path.
Speaker 1: I see you. Because Deb could have made fun of
Speaker 1: anything like this, could have been a woman with like
Speaker 1: a horrendous beehive hair, do you know, or like who
Speaker 1: could have been wearing something like very provocative, like wearing
Speaker 1: like Junior's clothing, but she's really, like, you know, fifty
Speaker 1: five years old. It could have been a moment for
Speaker 1: for Deb to still be offensive and still be shocking,
Speaker 1: but not as to your point like lazy. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: she could have been holding a baby, and she could
Speaker 1: have like made a made a joke about the baby
Speaker 1: or something like like a person who's not going to
Speaker 1: know what's happening in the script, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like if you have to, if she's gonna go for
Speaker 1: the joy, is gonna go through all the scripts. Listen,
Speaker 1: if we could just like make fun of the baby,
Speaker 1: would be a baby, but then we don't hurt anybody
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, you're right, Hillary, It definitely could have
Speaker 1: been something just as offensive about a choice that somebody
Speaker 1: made rather than exactly a choice instead of like their
Speaker 1: hereditary shape. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Yeah Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's just weird. And you see it. You see it
Speaker 1: in those moments that feel kind of cheap, and then
Speaker 1: you also see it again, like God, there's so much
Speaker 1: good stuff in in the last episode. In this episode,
Speaker 1: the blossoming truth and and sort of hard one friendship
Speaker 1: between Brook and Rachel makes me so happy. I love it,
Speaker 1: and then it makes me just want to like punch
Speaker 1: a wall. That On the flip side, the guys say,
Speaker 1: how do we get what we wish we were getting
Speaker 1: from these young women. Let's make Rachel go and do.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's like a line they've given to Brooke.
Speaker 1: Take two and call me in the morning about boys,
Speaker 1: like they say, you know. Rachel's like, we'll pick one
Speaker 1: and they'll make you feel better. And Brooke now is
Speaker 1: the one saying, listen, it's not gonna it's just gonna
Speaker 1: make me feel worse. It'll make you feel worse. And
Speaker 1: Rachel's like, I don't care. So they've got her going
Speaker 1: off to hook up with some guy and then like
Speaker 1: being super stalkery and creepy with Nathan and saying, you
Speaker 1: have Cooper's eyes all of a sudden, like she literally
Speaker 1: learned nothing. The whole thing. It's just not real. It's
Speaker 1: like it's creepy, porny fantasy that they made her stay
Speaker 1: in her bra and she walked out of that bed.
Speaker 1: For the first ten seconds, it follows her on her
Speaker 1: tits through the room, on her face. I missed that.
Speaker 1: I must have been looking at something, because I looked
Speaker 1: up and I was like, why is she still in
Speaker 1: her bra? It starts on the back of her bra
Speaker 1: with her clasping it. She turns around into camera, but
Speaker 1: only the bra. They don't ever start collecting her clothes.
Speaker 1: And then it's not un till she's leaving the room
Speaker 1: that you see her face and it's like, it's so
Speaker 1: stupid that she would be leaving the room without her shirt, Like, get,
Speaker 1: this is the first thing you do is get dressed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like the guy's waking up. She had another
Speaker 1: four seconds to put her shirt on. Yeah. Also, it's
Speaker 1: not like it's a house she knows, or like what
Speaker 1: is she going into an apartment hallway or that's the house?
Speaker 1: Is there? I was like, what if they wouldn't have
Speaker 1: done that to the three of us because we were
Speaker 1: established at that point. But for Danielle was guest starring,
Speaker 1: who's not in a position to be like why wouldn't
Speaker 1: I just put my shirt on? You know? You see
Speaker 1: that trickle down of like, oh, well these girls won't
Speaker 1: do this now, so we'll hire someone who will classic
Speaker 1: power dynamic. What's also really important for listeners to know
Speaker 1: is when you're on camera, you don't see what the
Speaker 1: frame is. We had no playback back then, so no,
Speaker 1: we had no playback, So it's not like daniel knew
Speaker 1: that they were zoomed in on her chest. She thought
Speaker 1: she was getting up out of bed and the camera
Speaker 1: was tracking her out of the room. And I just
Speaker 1: do have to say, like on behalf of her and
Speaker 1: us who were putting similar positions in any woman anywhere,
Speaker 1: it's a real experience when you see the finished edited
Speaker 1: product that is in the world and you go, oh,
Speaker 1: you zoomed in on my tits, Like ill, I didn't
Speaker 1: agree to that. Nobody even asked me. Just ask me,
Speaker 1: like there were times when I might be okay with it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It depends on the story. It depends
Speaker 1: on how the structure of everything's going. Like it's not
Speaker 1: that I'm saying no, it's just ask me. Don't just
Speaker 1: take it. It's gratuitous and it's and it's creepy and
Speaker 1: I don't know, y'all. All I'm gonna say is now,
Speaker 1: more often than not, on a set you have playback.
Speaker 1: Ladies ask to see it, yea, and gentlemen, if you're uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: you asked to see it too. It's free for all
Speaker 1: in terms of consent. Everyone deserves it. Uh. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was weird her coming on to Nathan and that Nathan
Speaker 1: would slowly leaning to kiss him, and Nathan at this point,
Speaker 1: after she's already like released the time capsule and ruined
Speaker 1: his wedding and almost killed almost killed his uncle, lets
Speaker 1: her kiss him on the cheek. I'm like, and what's
Speaker 1: and what is he doing waiting in that room? Cooper's gone?
Speaker 1: And he went to go get his wallet leftovers or something,
Speaker 1: But it's like he's standing there to tell her Cooper's gone.
Speaker 1: It's so weird and high school and I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: know this is I know this is dumb, but I
Speaker 1: will just never get over that. They wrote a line
Speaker 1: for her to say, you have Cooper's eyes to James
Speaker 1: Lafferty who has big blue eyes and Michael Truco's eyes
Speaker 1: or brown? Are they out there blue? They're blue? Yes,
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just seeing Daniel's eyes reflected in the scene
Speaker 1: and in my rage, I'm reassigning them. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: who would say that anyway? It's just so dumb. It
Speaker 1: didn't For a minute there, I was like, why didn't
Speaker 1: he push her away? But then I thought about the
Speaker 1: times when I've been in positions where I was I
Speaker 1: just wasn't myself, like my my brain was somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I was feeling awkward and I've had people like I've
Speaker 1: had someone hit on me and it just and like
Speaker 1: I don't I just don't have the wherewithal and have
Speaker 1: it in me in that moment, I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: like you just get frozen. And he's a seventeen year
Speaker 1: old boy and having this girl sort of like crawl
Speaker 1: on him, and she's vulnerable because she just had this
Speaker 1: horrible thing happened to him, and he's also got a
Speaker 1: kind heart, and it's like if I pushed her away, also,
Speaker 1: is that going to confound, you know, insults injury for
Speaker 1: her in the bigger picture. I don't know. It didn't
Speaker 1: bother me so much. I could see why. I didn't
Speaker 1: think he was giving into it. I think he just
Speaker 1: felt paralyzed. And I will say, for a scene that
Speaker 1: I thought was so obviously stupid and terribly written, I
Speaker 1: didn't think James did a very think. You know, I
Speaker 1: thought James did a very good job because he did
Speaker 1: look so uncomfortable and vulnerable, Like that look on his
Speaker 1: face was like what is happening? It wasn't like I'm
Speaker 1: attracted to her, Yeah, And I wasn't getting that no, no,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I thought it was a good
Speaker 1: choice on his part, because listen, we talked about this
Speaker 1: when we were watching the episode. Sometimes you just gotta commit,
Speaker 1: even if what's on the page is dumb. It's your job.
Speaker 1: If the dialogue is bad, you're an actor. You have
Speaker 1: to do it, you have to say it. So what
Speaker 1: I really respect is that I believe Danill. The way
Speaker 1: she looked at him made me uncomfortable, and the way
Speaker 1: he reacted was uncomfortable. And those two, James and Denil
Speaker 1: really committed to the scene regard us of what their
Speaker 1: opinions of it were, and and they they did the
Speaker 1: actors work, and so yeah, from the from the bird's
Speaker 1: eye view, we're all going, what was this? How ridiculous?
Speaker 1: But they really lent into the material. And like, there's
Speaker 1: also the flip side from the bird's eye view, where
Speaker 1: I'm like, our friends are great. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1: What it signaled to me and what we're gonna start
Speaker 1: seeing more and more of our show eventually reached a
Speaker 1: place where we were getting made fun of on the soup,
Speaker 1: where um, we there were there were storyline things that
Speaker 1: would fall through the cracks. And it started with little
Speaker 1: things like why is Nathan hanging out in Cooper's room?
Speaker 1: Why is Rachel just allowed in Cooper's room all the time?
Speaker 1: You know, like little piddlie. I mean, there was another
Speaker 1: one that made me crazy. Oh how did Dan refurbish
Speaker 1: this crib all in one day? He's got like the
Speaker 1: Brooke Davis five hour energy drinks, or he's like, I
Speaker 1: want to get it all done on net. By the way,
Speaker 1: he didn't even paint it. He sanded the whole thing down,
Speaker 1: stained the wood, and then painted the stars and then
Speaker 1: we'll cobbled the whole thing together. Cobbled it. That's the
Speaker 1: perfect vocab word. But what it what it signals to
Speaker 1: me is that what was going on behind the scenes
Speaker 1: is we had a boss who was increasingly unable to
Speaker 1: hear like feedback, where certainly someone caught all of these things.
Speaker 1: Certainly someone must have been like, there's no way a
Speaker 1: writer's room of what people is like. Hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: it's still day one, and this feels weird. We're at
Speaker 1: the hospital at ten o'clock at night to get pregnancy tests,
Speaker 1: you know, um, and so we're starting to see more
Speaker 1: and more of that disinterest in reality. So that's why
Speaker 1: when we start to move into like gun in the Cafe,
Speaker 1: you know, psycre Stalker from the Internet, some of these
Speaker 1: like bigger, crazy storylines, it's because we had a we
Speaker 1: leadership that didn't care about reality anymore. I was like,
Speaker 1: who cares? The fans don't care, so we can do
Speaker 1: whatever we want. That's right. It's like now knowing we're
Speaker 1: gonna be watching Rachel chase after Nathan for another I
Speaker 1: don't know what's five six episodes that's going to start happening,
Speaker 1: and it just again, it feels lazy and boring. And
Speaker 1: it would have been so interesting to to watch Rachel's
Speaker 1: trajectory into uh getting worse instead of having it instantly happened.
Speaker 1: And now she's just like, I'm not gonna grow, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to change from this. I'm just gonna start
Speaker 1: chasing after boys again. I would love to have actually
Speaker 1: watched her. She proved herself as an actress to be
Speaker 1: able to watch her go through a journey of trying
Speaker 1: to change, finding out it felt too hard for her,
Speaker 1: and then continually making the weaker choice every time. That's
Speaker 1: interesting to watch well, and by the way, how cool
Speaker 1: would it have been if in the spittal, instead of
Speaker 1: immediately creeping on Nathan, she had been really vulnerable with
Speaker 1: Nathan and he had offered her some really kind advice
Speaker 1: because they're both kind of traumatized from what happened, and
Speaker 1: he had just been friendly, and then in the next
Speaker 1: episode at school, she could have begun watching him in
Speaker 1: a way like it's it's the flip, it's the immediate,
Speaker 1: like I'm zooming in on pictures of you in my
Speaker 1: phone and you're going to fix it. It's like stupid,
Speaker 1: Calm down, just like, slow down a little bit. You're right.
Speaker 1: So think about if that had happened, if if Rachel
Speaker 1: had started to take it the wrong way and really
Speaker 1: fell Wait a second, I'm actually falling in love with
Speaker 1: this boy and started coming up with and then you
Speaker 1: see the long journey that she's doing the same thing
Speaker 1: with him that she did with Cooper, making it up
Speaker 1: in her mind, creating this imaginary scenario where he really
Speaker 1: loves her back. That takes you somewhere, because then when
Speaker 1: that crashes and burns, it's so much harder to come
Speaker 1: back from that. That's second time. Then it's like you
Speaker 1: know what, just I'm throwing everything out the window and
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go be a manipulative party girl or
Speaker 1: whatever label she wanted to live under. But instead it
Speaker 1: was just that immediate switch and we missed it. We
Speaker 1: got robbed. We keep getting robbed. They passed it a
Speaker 1: little bit. There was that one visual after the crash
Speaker 1: where you see Nathan and Rachel and her little dress
Speaker 1: all wet on the banks of the shore and they're
Speaker 1: laying there together with his arm over her, and so
Speaker 1: the audience has had this like subliminal viewing of like,
Speaker 1: you know, their bodies close together, his arm around her,
Speaker 1: and if she had flashbacks of that, you know, like yes,
Speaker 1: seized me, you know, that could have been interesting instead
Speaker 1: the transference he's my hero. There was a great storyline
Speaker 1: to be had, and and then she could have been
Speaker 1: the one saying to him, but you are a hero.
Speaker 1: You are a hero, and he's like I think I am,
Speaker 1: and all the guys are saying, look, dude, it makes
Speaker 1: sense if you blacked out, but like you were, you
Speaker 1: had to be the one who got us out of
Speaker 1: the car, you know, like it could have gone a
Speaker 1: little deeper instead of more of that like single white
Speaker 1: female energy which Peyton hadn't in the last episode, and
Speaker 1: now Rachel has it in this episode. And you know
Speaker 1: who else has it in this episode? Brooke Davis? Because
Speaker 1: where did she get a printer to print out that
Speaker 1: creepy asked picture she took a Peyton and Lucas walking
Speaker 1: out of the mall on her birthday? Did we have
Speaker 1: at home printers in two thousand six? I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: they have them in the trailer. Oh, that's true. We
Speaker 1: printed out continuity pictures in the trailer, did we at
Speaker 1: that point? Yeah, we had switched over I think from polaroids.
Speaker 1: We were like we were the last one of the
Speaker 1: last in the row for but they, I mean rich
Speaker 1: to have a well Brooke Brooks broke, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? As she always walks in exactly the wrong moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and by the way, how often in a red dress
Speaker 1: Season one after the wedding on her birthday? I'm like,
Speaker 1: stop wearing red girl. It's like an omen. It's a
Speaker 1: bad omen for you. Have you guys ever had, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the worst birthday you ever had? Who? Worst birthday? Uh? Okay,
Speaker 1: so listen, this is terrible story. I barely I briefly
Speaker 1: touched on this in my book and Jeff was like,
Speaker 1: you're going to tell that story and I was like,
Speaker 1: just a little bit. I won't go into detail, but
Speaker 1: I had had this had that the boyfriend I had
Speaker 1: when I first started One True Hill was like whatever,
Speaker 1: he's fine, but not for me. And one year for
Speaker 1: my birthday, he gave me a watch and I was
Speaker 1: like a watch? How, Like I don't wear watches and
Speaker 1: he was like yeah, but like I don't know, You've
Speaker 1: got all these weird hobbies and I'm really hoping you
Speaker 1: grow out of most of them, so at least a
Speaker 1: watch like you can keep for a long time. And
Speaker 1: so to me, I always felt like that wasn't a
Speaker 1: gift that said I support your interests. It was just like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's a watch. And so after I gave birth to Gus,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like a couple of months postpartum um,
Speaker 1: Jeff showed up in the city like he had got
Speaker 1: into the city, and he definitely didn't plan anything beforehand.
Speaker 1: There was like no planning involved. In the day before
Speaker 1: my birthday, He's like, I can't hang out with you.
Speaker 1: I have to go buy your birthday present. And then
Speaker 1: his parents were flying out in the morning, and he
Speaker 1: really wanted us to open up presents before his parents
Speaker 1: flew out. And so it's like nine o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning and I've got an infant, and like everybody wants
Speaker 1: me to open presence and like be all performative. And
Speaker 1: I opened up this present sking watch and I lost it.
Speaker 1: I lost it, Oh my gosh. And and he didn't
Speaker 1: know the back story, and he's just like, I bought
Speaker 1: you a nice thing. Why are you being psychotic? Um?
Speaker 1: And and so it was just it was a whole thing.
Speaker 1: And so now he's like anytime I'm being high strung,
Speaker 1: he's like, do I need to go buy you a watch? No,
Speaker 1: but don't buy me a watch ever. I hate them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about you? Like I don't like watches either. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's my long story. God, I love watches. I don't
Speaker 1: remember which birthday it was, but I definitely had a
Speaker 1: birthday that was like covered in rain and I couldn't
Speaker 1: get where I needed to go, you know, miss the reservation,
Speaker 1: like and you know, four of my friends couldn't show up,
Speaker 1: like out of six, and you know, something happened the
Speaker 1: last minute, and they were all like I hope you
Speaker 1: guys all have fun, but you know those when you
Speaker 1: know you don't, you throw a party and then like
Speaker 1: everybody thinks everybody else's to be there, so they're like,
Speaker 1: it's okay, I guess I can anyway, And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I just remember, like I think I was living in
Speaker 1: New York at the time, and just you know, trying
Speaker 1: to get a cab back home, and you know, trying
Speaker 1: to get a cab in New York City in the
Speaker 1: rain the hardest, so hard. That's why I got invented. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just got back to the apartment and probably put
Speaker 1: on I think I put on a movie and called
Speaker 1: it a night. But it was definitely one of those
Speaker 1: like this did not This birthday did not go the
Speaker 1: way I wanted. But then you take it as a
Speaker 1: bad omen You're like, the whole year is gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awful. But he loves Oh my god,
Speaker 1: here and Sophia. I mean, I had a real bad birthday.
Speaker 1: I can't really share the story of on this podcast,
Speaker 1: but I think the I think the top level would
Speaker 1: just be that I finally said to, you know, my
Speaker 1: bad boyfriend, we'll just use that terminology for all of us, right.
Speaker 1: I was just like, don't come, don't come, don't be here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, don't, don't get on the plane, don't
Speaker 1: come to see me here. I will I will call
Speaker 1: reinforcements if you show up. And then the birthday wound
Speaker 1: up being nice. You guys. I just can't get over
Speaker 1: I can't get over that you hate watches. I love
Speaker 1: what doesn't? Watches are fine? No, I know, I get it.
Speaker 1: You bought yourself like a vintage Rolex and we're all
Speaker 1: wood Tree Hill, And I was like so feeling. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is my gift to myself. That's the thing. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something even you know me. It's
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm just like I'm such like a like
Speaker 1: a like a professor trapped like a cute man professor
Speaker 1: in a tweet jacket kind of professor. I'm like that
Speaker 1: guy trapped in my body. So like I just want
Speaker 1: all the blazers with the elbow patches and all the
Speaker 1: like big old men's watches. Like I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever had a nice watch. Maybe that's why I don't
Speaker 1: really like that, because I'm always like they're they're they're
Speaker 1: like kind of not the big thick ones. I have
Speaker 1: had one that was big and thick, but then it
Speaker 1: stopped working. That's my problem with watches. They stopped working
Speaker 1: and then you have to replace the battery. But it's
Speaker 1: the same thing with me in the post office, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm never going to replace that battery. The watch is
Speaker 1: gonna sit on the shelf. You know what I'd prefer.
Speaker 1: Let's just get cough bracelets, same energy, same weight. But
Speaker 1: I don't have to look at numbers. I don't like
Speaker 1: you love a cuff. I don't like something on me
Speaker 1: that makes me feel guilty for not being where I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Maybe that's I look at a clock
Speaker 1: and I think guilt pressure. Yeah I don't want that. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's what you're That's what your bad boyfriend assigned
Speaker 1: to that watch for you. He guilt tripped you with
Speaker 1: that watch. How rude? My hobbies are cool? God damnit listen.
Speaker 1: I I as an actor. As a viewer is a
Speaker 1: Peyton enthusiast. Really liked how hard Peyton was working for
Speaker 1: Brooke on this episode and for herself trying to find Derek.
Speaker 1: Like Peyton was eager in this episode. I liked it.
Speaker 1: And you know what those scenes between the Peyton and
Speaker 1: Lucas scenes in the comment, like between you two sitting
Speaker 1: out in front of them all and then back in
Speaker 1: the car after you went into the mall, Like it
Speaker 1: is so sweet and you see the friendship and the
Speaker 1: lightness and the silliness and the chemistry and it it
Speaker 1: really does, at least as a viewer for me, like
Speaker 1: because I wasn't there, Like I don't remember those scenes,
Speaker 1: I didn't film them. Watching it, I go, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's what was brewing even in the first season as
Speaker 1: those two became friends. And then obviously it's a team drama.
Speaker 1: There has to be drama and conflict so other people
Speaker 1: get in the way. But that you come back to
Speaker 1: something that feel is really like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be cheesy and say pure, but kind of you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's a little sparkly and it's
Speaker 1: really fun to watch. I remember shooting those scenes with
Speaker 1: Chad and you know, it's all night work, so that
Speaker 1: was probably what two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's why we were so giggly, because you
Speaker 1: get punchy at that time. But I I remember the
Speaker 1: feeling of, oh my god, this might be something like
Speaker 1: the scenes between Peyton and Lucas, because I've never really
Speaker 1: gotten it before, Like it was always just like broody
Speaker 1: kids being broody, right, And I'm like, this is like
Speaker 1: a misery tar pit. And I remember like like legitimately
Speaker 1: laughing in the car with Chad while we were shooting
Speaker 1: those scenes, being like, well, this feels different, Like I
Speaker 1: was just clocking a different energy, and we legitimately had
Speaker 1: a nice time together in that car because it was
Speaker 1: kids being kids, just like what's your favorite color? Anyway?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite you know? Cereal? Okay, It's just it's fun. Well,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's part of why it also feels so
Speaker 1: fun to watch, because there was a lot going on
Speaker 1: around you two in this episode that was intense or
Speaker 1: that did feel a little not grounded in reality. So
Speaker 1: then you get in the car and you're like, tell
Speaker 1: me a story, and you're just laughing and sharing and bonding.
Speaker 1: Yet it feels real. It's not a huge semi truck
Speaker 1: driving by. That says murderer Boy. He's really coming unraveled,
Speaker 1: and it's so annoying that he won't leave Karen alone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is so strange. Yeah, why doesn't debar Why doesn't
Speaker 1: Dan have the stalker wall, like of all of us
Speaker 1: to have like the weird photo stalker images, it would
Speaker 1: be Dan, not us girls. Maybe he'll start on Sam
Speaker 1: going through his old yearbook. Look at us Karen, where
Speaker 1: we adorable Karen going to Kinks and Seox and all
Speaker 1: the photos. Hey, did you guys notice the appearance, like
Speaker 1: the sudden appearance of the giant red chair in Nathan
Speaker 1: Haley's apartment. Listen, I didn't want to bring it up.
Speaker 1: It's from the London episode. The set dressing in Nathan
Speaker 1: and Haley's apartment is so jarring, it's so awful when
Speaker 1: it's from the last episode. Remember you guys come back
Speaker 1: and you say what is Yeah, and there's a giant
Speaker 1: red chair under the that all it's under a canvas
Speaker 1: of those London phote um where they called the London
Speaker 1: telephone booths, and it's like a mural of a bunch
Speaker 1: of them in a row and under and there's a
Speaker 1: red chair, and the whole apartment is navy blue with
Speaker 1: the London Bridge thing. And then she's already made a
Speaker 1: pinterest board based on it. She's like word because when
Speaker 1: you guys walked in and he was like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we spent all our money on the wedding
Speaker 1: and now all this new furniture. I was like, who
Speaker 1: did this? Like look at that, look at that, look
Speaker 1: at that, look at that. This is crazy to think
Speaker 1: that a teenager did this. But it's just overkill. Also,
Speaker 1: it was like friends style furniture. It's all like big
Speaker 1: and it's like the central perk. Girl, it's pee Wee's playhouse.
Speaker 1: It's like, why is that chair so big? And that's
Speaker 1: a giant red painting. I don't even know what that
Speaker 1: was on the walls, Like somebody said, we need more
Speaker 1: red in this room, but they threw a complimentary color
Speaker 1: up on the wall. Strange. It's very strange that everything
Speaker 1: very strange. Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one
Speaker 1: who noticed. I wasn't into it, But the scene that
Speaker 1: you guys had in the apartment I did love because
Speaker 1: Nathan's whole speech where he's like, I'm the kid. Should
Speaker 1: my mother have a gun? Am I gonna let it
Speaker 1: my life up? No? Like I'm the kid is something
Speaker 1: that I have said as an adult to people in
Speaker 1: my family and that, and I like to surprise myself
Speaker 1: saying it, and I thought I was the only immature
Speaker 1: person on the planet that had said stuff like that,
Speaker 1: And so a teenager on TV saying I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. And what I loved too is that
Speaker 1: he was so just frank about it. I'm the kid.
Speaker 1: My dad's got a restraining order, my mom's got a
Speaker 1: glock enough, And and then that moment where you two
Speaker 1: are really bonding over how this is so inappropriate and
Speaker 1: you're just supposed to be able to be the kids,
Speaker 1: and then he says, I'm not going to let anything
Speaker 1: get in the way of my dreams. I'm going to
Speaker 1: play basketball. And we know what, Haley, How Haley takes
Speaker 1: that you have that moment where you take a breath.
Speaker 1: My god, I didn't even think about that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a kid. Oh man, it like it hints. Yeah. Wait,
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to go back and watch
Speaker 1: it now. It's amazing to me how the writing can
Speaker 1: sometimes nail it so hard and be so good and
Speaker 1: right on, and then sometimes it's so far off. It's wild,
Speaker 1: especially in an episode like this, because it's seesaws back
Speaker 1: and forth so aggressively it like gives you whip lack.
Speaker 1: You're like, how can this show be so good and
Speaker 1: so embarrassing? Like what's happening? Yeah? Well, you also had
Speaker 1: another really good moment when you came and you found
Speaker 1: him on the bridge where he's just been like taking naps.
Speaker 1: I guess um, and you're like, you know, you have
Speaker 1: to let me in. We will do this together, and
Speaker 1: Nathan says something like, you know, I'm not quite ready
Speaker 1: to let you in yet. I'm still I'm still like
Speaker 1: figuring this out. Did you write that line down, Sophia,
Speaker 1: I did. He says, I don't understand it enough to
Speaker 1: let you in yet. Yeah. Oh I felt that I
Speaker 1: did too, because we've all been there, right when you're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out why something is affecting you the
Speaker 1: way that it is and you don't have the words yet,
Speaker 1: and it's such a it's such a beautiful thing for
Speaker 1: him to say, rather than to be like stop, leave
Speaker 1: me alone, you know, to to freak out, to just say, yes,
Speaker 1: you're right, I am going through something, but I don't
Speaker 1: know how to tell you about it yet. I don't
Speaker 1: have the words for this. Yet it's it's such a
Speaker 1: gift to give to the person who loves you that
Speaker 1: sees that you're having a hard time. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I loved it. I really really loved it. And then
Speaker 1: we went from that moment to Brooke putting her creepy
Speaker 1: little stalker photo of Peyton and Lucas in her photo album,
Speaker 1: and I was like, here we go, We're back on
Speaker 1: the Seesaw. I'm uncomfortable. Um, what I will say about
Speaker 1: that seesaw is this scene gave us the push Vice
Speaker 1: mug with the little message we got to see on
Speaker 1: the bottom at the end of the episode that's like
Speaker 1: it says to my posh best friend, love Peyton. And
Speaker 1: it feels really like nice and full circle that now
Speaker 1: we have kids that have like mugs and t shirts
Speaker 1: and like little pictures with their friends that are like,
Speaker 1: you're the book to my Peyton, You're the posh to
Speaker 1: my Scary Spice. I was always Scary Spice in my
Speaker 1: group of girlfriends. Like that was the one that I
Speaker 1: was like, Jimson Scary, I like her. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that so much. Oh my god, I don't
Speaker 1: know why. That just reminded me something about like picturing
Speaker 1: those girls remind it, like gave it gave me such
Speaker 1: a flashback when you were asking about birthdays. So I
Speaker 1: was like, I can't really tell you the story of
Speaker 1: my worst it's not it's not fit to be printed.
Speaker 1: But no, the weirdest birthday I've ever had my twenty
Speaker 1: fifth birthday. My friends took me to Vegas and joy
Speaker 1: that's the birthday. There's a photo of me and one
Speaker 1: of my best friends and I'm in a little black dress.
Speaker 1: It's like a very posh by Stress And it's that
Speaker 1: birthday party that the fans or perhaps fans with no
Speaker 1: boundaries whatever they're called, have photo shopped all the photos
Speaker 1: with us into them. So there are photos of you
Speaker 1: and me and it looks like I'm kissing you on
Speaker 1: the cheek. They photo shopped a bunch of pictures of
Speaker 1: me and James. They photoshopped this picture and I yes,
Speaker 1: and there's like all these pictures floating around, but you,
Speaker 1: James and Lee were not there. I was like on
Speaker 1: a trip with my college best friends in Vegas. But
Speaker 1: they've created all these pictures and I feel sort of
Speaker 1: bad about it because fans are like, oh, I love
Speaker 1: these pictures of them and I'm like, those aren't real,
Speaker 1: and I'm uncomfortable. Listen, I thought they were real. I
Speaker 1: was like, where were they that they were kissing? Where
Speaker 1: was everybody? What I missed out? You're like where, We're like,
Speaker 1: where was that party that Sophia bit Joy's face? I didn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't her. It was a joke. It was like
Speaker 1: an old running joke from childhood. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: do we tell people these are fake? Maybe we just
Speaker 1: let them believe the fantasy. It's okay. It's so weird.
Speaker 1: And also, I'm like, there are a few people I
Speaker 1: have as many photos with as you guys. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: why are they photoshopping? Like anything? There are so many
Speaker 1: photoshops I've seen over the years. So many people have
Speaker 1: sent me photos, even friends of mine who were like, uh,
Speaker 1: asking me about a hair color or something, and they're
Speaker 1: like screen grab. They said, they screen grab something from
Speaker 1: their phone, and I'm like, this photo is completely fabricated.
Speaker 1: First of all, that's not my body at all, and
Speaker 1: I never was. I was never in that place with
Speaker 1: this person. There's so many James and I that look
Speaker 1: really personal and enacted and they're totally photos. I'm just
Speaker 1: like have a couple of those, dude. Weirdly, I have
Speaker 1: some of those. I have some of those with him.
Speaker 1: I have some of those with Lee. And the thing
Speaker 1: that makes me the most uncomfortable. One of my best
Speaker 1: best guy friends, who for clarification of like why we
Speaker 1: take ridiculous photos with each other is gay. There's a
Speaker 1: photo of us from a party and we were like
Speaker 1: sending it to a friend as a as a gag,
Speaker 1: and I like, we took a photo and I'm like
Speaker 1: licking the side of his face. I'm not like actually
Speaker 1: licking his face. I just take my sure, but like
Speaker 1: there's I'm like, you know, there's just like posing for
Speaker 1: a photo that's funny, and then there's the full action,
Speaker 1: which feels a little like were wolfee that don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm down with somebody, And this makes me so creeped.
Speaker 1: Somebody photoshopped Jensen in photo. It looks like I'm licking
Speaker 1: Danielle's husband's face. Just like I would like to call
Speaker 1: a time out here, Like there has to be a
Speaker 1: world in which there's a little bit of a boundary
Speaker 1: and people stopped doing this. I also just think, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm a little prude, but I
Speaker 1: think manipulated photos in general should be off limits. Like
Speaker 1: we didn't consent to that I have posted. I have
Speaker 1: posted a manipulated photo for Chad's birthday. One year. I
Speaker 1: had been to a party with Chad and so assumed
Speaker 1: that this picture that I posted was real. No, I
Speaker 1: had been with some reality TV star and it never
Speaker 1: occurred to me that that picture had been altered. I've
Speaker 1: been sitting at a table with this like reality TV kid,
Speaker 1: you know, like I was hanging out with my buddies.
Speaker 1: I didn't even but like some magazine came along and
Speaker 1: took a picture, and then over the years someone manipulated it.
Speaker 1: And I remember Chad and I were both at this party,
Speaker 1: so I just assumed the picture was real. And then
Speaker 1: one day I saw the real picture and I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, this is weird. I took this picture
Speaker 1: with Chad. My God, I got duped. I got duped
Speaker 1: by God. I love it well. Speaking of um Sophia
Speaker 1: being a werewolf, Okay, we have a fan question. Let's
Speaker 1: move to a fan question here from zib Would you
Speaker 1: rather be cast as witches or vampires in a supernatural movie?
Speaker 1: On which is I'm vampire all the way? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Interview with the Vampires like forever my obsession. And you
Speaker 1: were really good at throwing up blood on Sophia's show.
Speaker 1: You want to do that spittake with like all the
Speaker 1: bloody vomit, and you nailed that. I didn't. Like. I
Speaker 1: get to dress up in like eighteen century seven nineteenth
Speaker 1: century ruffles and things and then put vampire teeth in
Speaker 1: and just like bite on some handsome boys, you know
Speaker 1: on Our favorite costumer from One Tree Hill, Carol Cutshall
Speaker 1: is the designer of Interview with the Vampire. She's designing
Speaker 1: all of those costumes. Wait, design, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Is there a retail a remake? Yes, Interview with the
Speaker 1: Vampires on AMC the series act. Oh yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: like critics love you, sang to me right now that
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You know this, your weekend is planned. Joy,
Speaker 1: you have things, have something to do right now. Carol
Speaker 1: is killing it her Instagram page where she's showing all
Speaker 1: her inspiration videos. I gotta go look at this. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Carol Cultshaw is a beast. But yeah, so we're witches
Speaker 1: all day. But that's also my god. I mean When
Speaker 1: we heard they were doing another practical magic we were like,
Speaker 1: can we be in it? And they were like, it's
Speaker 1: a prequel, guys. The kids are like fourteen. And they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, okay, alright, bye. Don't they have mothers?
Speaker 1: Don't they have moms? Yeah, we could be witchy moms. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm into it? Can I tell you that funny? The
Speaker 1: Salem Witch Trials right now in seventh grade history class,
Speaker 1: and I am chomping at the bit to get into
Speaker 1: the classroom because they're doing a mock trial. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, hello, do you need any acting advice
Speaker 1: from a real witch? I would love to come and
Speaker 1: talk to you about it. Well, you're a little dog too.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I like it. I also like Samantha's question,
Speaker 1: do you want to kiss Mary or slap Uncle Cooper,
Speaker 1: Jake or Skills? I'm like, apparently it should be like,
Speaker 1: you know, kiss Mary or bite um? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to slap anyone unless it was a
Speaker 1: sexy slap. Oh who would give us? It was like,
Speaker 1: unless it was like a deb and Skills kind of
Speaker 1: a slap scene, like how dare you do it again?
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing Brookes should have married Uncle Cooper. Yeah.
Speaker 1: For me. From there, I'm Cooper is a Mary and
Speaker 1: and Jake and Skills are a kiss. I I don't no,
Speaker 1: I don't wouldn't slap any of them. I guess I
Speaker 1: don't want to write circumstances. Um. I can't see anybody
Speaker 1: needing to slap Jake for any reason, because he's just
Speaker 1: a puppy dog. But I don't know. I guess I
Speaker 1: guess skills could could get fresh sometimes. Maybe. I mean
Speaker 1: I I like the sage wisdom of skills. I could
Speaker 1: be down with Mary and that guy and Peyton would
Speaker 1: totally make out with Cooper, and I could see her
Speaker 1: slapping Jake just as like a just fucking be cool man,
Speaker 1: Like why down here? I took a plane ticket from
Speaker 1: Pete Wins, Like couldn't we just kiss all weekend? All
Speaker 1: these big talks. God, that feels that's it? Um, I
Speaker 1: love that fan question do we want to spin a wheel?
Speaker 1: I have to go pick up my son. I love it.
Speaker 1: We get a little most likely to start decorating for
Speaker 1: Christmas November one. I mean, like maybe a Haley thing.
Speaker 1: All of us are like, no, is it a Haley thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's probably Haley, maybe Karen for the cafe, like who
Speaker 1: who's hype? Ever, No, I feel like Haley is too
Speaker 1: chilled for it. I think it's like an Erica Marsh thing.
Speaker 1: M yeah, then Erica Marsh hyperchick thing, or maybe like
Speaker 1: of the boys Brooks Jewish. I don't know, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like because you know, I come from
Speaker 1: a blended family, so we do both holidays, and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like, I gotta wait till after Thanksgiving and
Speaker 1: then I put up like a little something for this
Speaker 1: side and a little something for this side, and things
Speaker 1: got easier once I got like a Christmas tree that
Speaker 1: lives in a box. Just pop it out. Um, got
Speaker 1: a Christmas tree over here when I'm Honora over here
Speaker 1: and everybody gets a holiday. Yeah, I don't know that
Speaker 1: it's any of our core five on the show. I
Speaker 1: think it's definitely like a sneak attack. It's like a
Speaker 1: jump or one of the board. Eric Marsh is a
Speaker 1: great instinct as well. Yeah, but in real life, who
Speaker 1: are always realized it's Buckley. Buckley is Psycho for Christmas,
Speaker 1: you guys, fun, Yeah, it's him? Okay, alright, good, So
Speaker 1: Erica Marsh and Robert Buckley. He literally wrote an entire
Speaker 1: ass Hamemark movie about his family's decorating for Christmas, like
Speaker 1: people would drive to their house to go see their decorations. Amazing.
Speaker 1: I love it. Um. What's next week? Hey, next week
Speaker 1: we have Season four, Episode three, Good News people who
Speaker 1: love bad News. Oh dear, oh dear, what fun. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. You're to find We're gonna find our
Speaker 1: way through it. Guys, we can't wait to watch with you.
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