1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic girl Cheering for the drama Queens up girl fashion. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: But you'll tough, girl, you can sit with us Girl Drama, 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Queens Drama, Queen's DRAWNA Queen's Drama Drawn MC Queen's Drama Queens. Hey, Rookie, 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: Happy birthday for a quick Davis is birthday? So cutey guys? 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Season four, Episode two Things I forgot at birth? Why 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: is everybody a stalker? That's just what I want to know, 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: because we're teenagers. This is my takeaway. Oh man, it's 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: a sloppy one. Brooks Birthday I forgot. Wait, I thought 12 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: you had a summer birthday. I didn't realize that Brooke 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: was an October birthday. Well it isn't. Brooks birthday is 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: March fourth, what yeah? So, but I don't know why 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: this aired on October four. But remember every season of 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: our show was a semester. I guess in high school, 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: so like we were doing annual years, but the show 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: was only doing six month periods, so it made everything 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: a little sticky in that like second semester every year. 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Listen, hey, I gotta give 21 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it to the fans then for like keeping track of that, 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: like and yeah, because you know what it is. It's 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: it's about to be playoffs and March madness is obviously 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: in March. Girl, you read these signs sports, I'm just like, wait, second, 25 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: it's October fourth, What is that? What's going on? Yeah? 26 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: This air October four, two thousand six. God you guys, 27 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Joyce here, she's here. You got here just in time 28 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: for the synopsis. Tell them about your traffic, your traffic fiasco. 29 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: Um No, I was just on my way back from 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: my writing session of working on some music, and on 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: my way back, I'm just getting to know the highways here, 32 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: so I missed my exit. You know, of course one 33 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: time I'm really in a rashow. I'm here, we got you. 34 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: We're just reading the synopsis. You watched the episode earlier. 35 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Cooper's life remains uh, precaring, Like his life remains precarious, 36 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: hanging precariously in the bad. It feels like a weird sense. 37 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to say. Anyway. Nathan still struggling 38 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: with what happened in that river. Brook celebrates her big 39 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: eighteenth birthday, but finds it diminished by her struggles with Peyton. 40 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: Lucas and Karen come to terms with her pregnancy while 41 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: also trying to figure out who's pregnancy tests they found 42 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: in the purse and Deb's past addictions. Intersect with Haley 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: in an explosive manner. Good, God that was that was 44 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: Like that was upsetting? Yeah, for sure, I just I 45 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: didn't like it. I will say what I What I 46 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: like so much in this episode is the misdirect with 47 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Brooke and Haley about who's pregnant, because it's one of 48 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: the better things that they've done in terms of the 49 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: fact that you just really don't know what's going on. 50 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: And I watched it like it's like when you've seen 51 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: The Sixth Sense and you know the ending and then 52 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: you go back to watch the need to figure out 53 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: if they were telling you about the ending the whole time, 54 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: and you realize that they were. Like I watched that 55 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: scene of us in the back of Karen's cafe like 56 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: a hawk, just being like, who says exactly what? And 57 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: how did we do this? And God, it was good. 58 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 1: It was really saying, uh, it's it's gonna be okay, right, 59 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: And I remember because I kind of I was like, 60 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: why is she asking me if it's okay? I'm the 61 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: one who's freaking out. But then that's the mr. The 62 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: audience doesn't know. Yeah, everyone's really thinks it's brooke. And 63 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: with with Rachel catching her and and the perfume you 64 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: know that Lucas talks about before the pregnancy test was 65 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: in a purse with your perfume minute, you know, like 66 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: it really the writers did a good job of really 67 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: making you lean to think that that's what it was, 68 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: even with Haley saying did you guys ever talk about it? 69 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: And then Brook asking the question and these girls talking 70 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: about their experiences, you know, in their young intimate relationships. 71 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: When Haley goes to Karen and she's like, boy, that 72 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: must have been really hard for you at seventeen, and 73 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: you know she's wishing. But they also remind the audience 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: when you're like, hey, have you ever dealt with this? 75 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, last year when I had the scare, 76 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: which means like, yeah, I'm sexually active. Yeah, I've had 77 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: scares in the past. And Haley's like, well, we got 78 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: in a fight about birth control, which makes you think like, oh, well, 79 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: Haley is on birth control. It couldn't possibly be her. 80 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: They've already had this fight, don't don't a little bit 81 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: of exposition. Yeah, this was This was a big episode. 82 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: This was like packed. Well, there were so many things 83 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: I loved. I loved seeing the river Court even just 84 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: so much. Skills, so many like moments with Skills finally 85 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: coming back, and those shots um when Barry and Chad 86 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: were in the car and you could see not just 87 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: the River Court but then passed it onto Front Street 88 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: or Water Street across the river. I miss seeing those. Yeah. 89 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: And because we did all that lighting, like we lit 90 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: down down and then the lights stayed up and it 91 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: became this really iconic vista. I just about fell out 92 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: of my chair when Hillary rolls up in the comment 93 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: and Skills goes, hey, home wrecker. Here is how I 94 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: want all of you to say hello to me from 95 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: now on. Do you remember was I'm turning so red 96 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: that made me laugh so hard? Was that in the 97 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: script or did Antoine just yell that at you man? Listen. 98 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: That's the best part about working with Antoine is that 99 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: his lines were funnier than the lines that are on paper, 100 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: and they would try all the time to try to 101 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: match his cadence and his rhythm and just like the 102 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: way that he talks, and it was always just like 103 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: white people writing for a black man, and it sounded 104 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: so forced and dumb, and so Antoine very well could 105 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: have have written that or come up with it on 106 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: the spot. But what I like about him is that 107 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: he commits to the material. And when we're in Peyton's 108 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: room and he's like asking about records and he's teasing 109 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: her about like this sounds like a lot of white 110 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: girl drama, and he's just leaning into it. He can 111 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: just take a scene that could be like awkward and 112 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: clunky and make it funny. It is a skill set 113 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't have. And so I'm en Vince Vaughan thing. 114 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: It's like, you know how Vince Vaughan can just you 115 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: just drop room and he'll just go until something happens. Yeah. 116 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: I think Antoine is the same way. Yeah, we were lucky. 117 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: We're seeing more and more and more of him. They've 118 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: put him in the new opening credits um, which is 119 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: great and our show need at that. Our diversity problem 120 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: is major huge huge, Um. So, yeah, I and I 121 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: like that Skills is going to be on the team. 122 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: I think it was cool to watch before we even 123 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: like round, like came back to it at the end 124 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: of the episode, watching that first scene where Luke takes 125 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: Barry to the river court and does the same exact 126 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: thing that Keith did in the pilot. It is great. 127 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: That's right. I forgot about that hill. Yeah. I mean 128 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: you've got you've got Nathan telling the whole story of 129 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: like Keith was with me in the car, and you've 130 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: got Luke emulating Keith's behavior. You know the effects, Yeah, exactly, 131 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: those are the Luke's drives Keith's car now, and yeah 132 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: that you see his influence everywhere, and it's really cool 133 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: to see his positive influence on the boys while the 134 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: absence of him is making Dan Scott crazy, Like Dan 135 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 1: is losing his mind, he's hallucinating, he's miss hearing things 136 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: that you know. The UPS guy comes in and he says, 137 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: signed here Mr Mayor, but he hears Mr Murderer. Mr 138 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: works at the way the way Paul looks at the 139 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: UPS guy. Did you make a note about that? Because 140 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: I did, I did, I totally did. Can you imagine 141 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: if there was someone in political office that you go like, 142 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: you're just there to drop off a package, and they'd 143 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: say they stare at you and glare at you, and 144 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: they're like, from now on, just leave the package to 145 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: the front door. So I'd be like, oh my god, 146 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: I do not want this person in charge in any way, 147 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: shape or form. Paranoid right now and be like are 148 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: you okay? No one in the Scott family is okay. 149 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: Dan's losing his debs, like nearly causing a shooting. Yeah, 150 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: and then having these crazy visions and fears. Um. For 151 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: the episode in a Row, I know, listen, they worked 152 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: that water tank and they were like, we're going to 153 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: fit this water work that's very expensive into no less 154 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: than six episodes. We are making this work. We got 155 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: to invest. Yeah, Barbara's great. I love watching her work. 156 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: I love the things that she creates. Um. I love 157 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: the scene with Moira. I don't know if you, I mean, 158 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: if you've ever talked with someone who is high in 159 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: a really troubling way. It was so realistic because that 160 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: her total lack of concern and actual She was laughing 161 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: at her, like you are so uptight. This is ridiculous 162 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: um and seeing Moira really drop into this, really drop 163 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: into this fear um and like, you're not going to 164 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: threaten seventeen years of my business just because you're stressed 165 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: out and you know your life is falling apart. Yeah, 166 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: it was very it was realistic and yeah, troubling. As 167 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: you said, Sophia, it was really bothered me. Well, it 168 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: kind of it was like light and any like oh 169 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: ha ha gun went off to the cafe today. We 170 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: both screamed, like when when the scene happened, Hillary and 171 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: I both shouted. We were so startled, and it's terrifying. 172 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: And you're right, it is really interesting to see somebody, yes, 173 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: who's struggling, but like, look, Deb's acting out. She's afraid, 174 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: so she's masking and she's acting out. She's saying, I 175 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: want to feel better, I want to feel good. I 176 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: don't care what it does to anybody around me. And 177 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: and Karen comes in with such vulnerability and says, you 178 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: will not do this. You need help. What you're doing 179 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: is hurting you, it's hurting me, and it's hurting this business. 180 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: And I got to set up a boundary. And Dev's 181 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: just not ready to hear it. You know, it's like 182 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: that thing that they say when we talked about this 183 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: a little bit last week, right, like you have to 184 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: be willing to look in and excavate and when you 185 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: when you have to layer the things people need to 186 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: heal from with addiction and and where that can send people. 187 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: You know, It's why they say, like nobody gets sober 188 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: until they're ready. Sometimes you have to send people to 189 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: rehab three times. Sometimes there have to be multiple interventions 190 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: with family, and those people who lead those interventions always say, 191 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: you have to set up a boundary. You cannot be 192 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: an enabler. And it's wild in this adult female friendship 193 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: to watch Karen trying to set up a boundary and 194 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: deb trying to hold onto her dignity and the last pills. 195 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: Oh god, Okay, So here's what I loved about that 196 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: moment because I had a couple of these moments with 197 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: our writer where something would be scripted to be really 198 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: really bitchy and instead like we would choose to play 199 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: it really vulnerable or really earnest, and it would bug 200 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: them And the last us two lines of the of 201 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: the scene are it's an altoyd and Deb like plops 202 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: it on her purse anyway, And I know exactly how 203 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be scripted. It was supposed to 204 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: be like a bitchy judge line from Karen, like a 205 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: little button not on the scene, it's cute, And instead 206 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: she played it like it was breaking her heart to 207 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: say it. And so when deb popped it in her 208 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: purse anyway, it hurts so bad instead of being a 209 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: bitchy moment between women who were shrews, you know. And 210 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: I just I love that you caught that. I was 211 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: so happy Moira made that choice because it's not what 212 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: was on the paper at all. That was something that 213 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: we had to do a lot on this show when 214 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: we would have because we had so many guest directors 215 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: come in and most of the time they think they 216 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: just wanted to stick with what was on the page. 217 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to make waves. There were a lot of 218 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: people coming in who were newbie directors and wanted to um, 219 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: not rock the boat. They just want to maintain a 220 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: good standing in their reputation and um and so whatever 221 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: the producers were telling them, this is how the line 222 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: should be read, is how they were instructed to instruct us. 223 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: And you know, we were getting to a point now 224 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: where four years in this show was ours. Now we 225 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: knew these characters, we knew what we were doing, and 226 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: I encountered the struggle a lot. I think you guys 227 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: did too, where the directors would tell us, okay, we 228 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: have all right, great, we have it basically, we have 229 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: it your way, all right, we got that. That's great, 230 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: so we just give me one. Just do one the 231 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: way it's scripted on the page, you know, just one, 232 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: and we would we would accommodate often until we figured out, 233 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: oh wait, that's that ends up always being the only 234 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: take they use. They always inevitably use the tape um 235 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: that that wasn't really true to our character. And so 236 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: we would have to wrestle a lot with some of 237 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: these directors and be like, look, I'm sorry, I'm realized 238 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: this might reflect on you and you might get in 239 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: trouble for not being able to force me to do it. 240 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, just blame me. I'm telling you I know 241 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: the best way for this thing to go down. I 242 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Did you guys experience that? Yeah? And and look, 243 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: I think what's kind of tough about knowing what to 244 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: do in those situations is, yes, sometimes we do know 245 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: the right thing for our characters, and directors are responsible 246 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: for building the roller coaster, so they know, like what 247 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: track from scene eight is needed in scene nine to 248 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: connect it to scene ten, Like they have to build 249 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: that track to be able to carry the car. Yeah. 250 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: It's not that they were always wrong, it's just well, yeah, 251 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: but it's like having been in the director's chair, I've 252 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: also experienced when somebody just cannot get out of their 253 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: own way to help like build the scene. And and 254 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: what I think becomes the really tricky kind of high 255 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: I aer act is figuring out how to really be 256 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: your character's best champion and be a really good team player. 257 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: And what I thought, yeah, and what I thought was 258 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: was always important for us was knowing the way I 259 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: felt like I began to know the difference was being 260 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: able to see what directors had done their homework and 261 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: knew the shape of the roller coaster versus the ones 262 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: who were parroting something that I knew they didn't believe in. 263 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: But they've been told that there and you can tell 264 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: you start to tell after you do this long enough. Yeah, 265 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: And and that that then has become a really interesting 266 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: thing for me, you know, post our show like on 267 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:50,119 Speaker 1: other jobs, being able to make sure um as a producer, 268 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: as a co star that I know why we're advocating 269 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: for the things we are and if somebody can punch 270 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: holes in it, it means our argument sucks and we 271 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: need a better one, you know. Yeah, And it's and 272 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: it's so refreshing, I think to be at a place 273 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: in our careers where we work with people who actually 274 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: talk to us about what's going on. Instead of saying, yeah, well, 275 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: I I really just believe in this for your character. 276 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: It's like, do you just need it for the shot? 277 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Because if you do, just tell me that. Do you 278 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: need her just to stand on the bridge? Oh yeah. 279 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: There were some directors who had come in and I've 280 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: seen this on other jobs too, where they're like, listen, 281 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: I realize it makes no sense for you to say 282 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: the line this way, or to walk across the room 283 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: after you say this line or whatever. Can we please like, 284 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: we have to find a way to make this work 285 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: and here's why. And then they it's either the hours 286 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: of the day that we're in or you know, I 287 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: have to get you over there because they're dying for 288 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: this transition shot and there's too many people you mean 289 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: the door, the door I need, Yeah, whatever, the door. 290 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I'm totally happy to help with you. Yeah, 291 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: it is really interesting. So it's cool when you see 292 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: I guess that's what it is, right, It's like seeing 293 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: these women you just want to be trusted with it. 294 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but but this scene I think we love 295 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: because we're seeing these women who were the seasoned professionals 296 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: that we are now, who said, oh, we're going to 297 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: do something so much more real with this dumb thing 298 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: that some guy wrote, you know, yeah, like and they 299 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: made it heartbreaking and you saw how sad it made 300 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: Moira to say it, and you saw it hit Barbara. 301 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: But her pride wouldn't let her let Karen see it, 302 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: and so she made this flourished gesture with her hand 303 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: that was very like, well i'm you, I'm leaving, and 304 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: and all of it was actually pain and oh it's delicious, 305 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Like that's a delicious scene to watch. Also, Barbara had 306 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: to commit to some heinis in this episode. I mean, 307 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: let's just address it. Uh. There's the scene where deb 308 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: has a customer up a complain and she attacks the 309 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: way this woman's body looks, and I don't know how 310 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: we cast Always Wrestle with the always for that, Like, 311 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: I just it was also Fhia said while we watched, 312 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: She's like, it's literally the only dig that our writer 313 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: knew how to make against women. Yeah, it was like, 314 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna attack your weight because in the same episode, 315 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: Lucas is talking about Peyton's chicken e legs. You know, 316 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: it's just like the female body shape was the target. Um, 317 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: it's and it's gross and it's cheap. It's so cheap, 318 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: such low hanging fruit, for sure, But Barbara had to 319 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: do it because the whole point was that Deb's behavior 320 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: was like character. Yeah, but like can you imagine getting 321 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: that script? And that's hard to Yeah, how do we 322 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: cast for that? How do you I mean, how do 323 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: you get that call? As an actor? You're sitting at 324 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: home and your agent calls and says, here's the sides. 325 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: But you know, like as an agent, how do you 326 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: send that to I mean, this is I'd really like 327 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: to know how they pull that off. Now it's all 328 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: just bad. Well, hopefully it's like not a problem anymore, 329 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, maybe we get 330 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: to a place where it's like those jokes aren't the 331 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: jokes we tell because they're not funny. Well, they're not 332 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: funny and they're incredibly lazy. You know. There was there 333 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: was a big debate years ago with a bunch of 334 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: male comics about how maybe they should stop making jokes 335 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: about sexual assault, like just stop, it's not funny. And 336 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, all these guys said, well, we have a 337 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: right to joke about whatever we want. And it's like, well, 338 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: maybe be funnier then, maybe be better writers, maybe observe 339 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: something in society that has anything to do with you 340 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: not being a total And that's the way I feel 341 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: about like men who do this stuff. I'm like, so, 342 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: what you're really doing is telling me you're lazy and 343 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: that you don't want to work harder to be better 344 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: at the thing that you claim as you chosen career path. 345 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: I see you. Because Deb could have made fun of 346 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: anything like this, could have been a woman with like 347 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: a horrendous beehive hair, do you know, or like who 348 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: could have been wearing something like very provocative, like wearing 349 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: like Junior's clothing, but she's really, like, you know, fifty 350 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: five years old. It could have been a moment for 351 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: for Deb to still be offensive and still be shocking, 352 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: but not as to your point like lazy. Yeah, I mean, 353 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: she could have been holding a baby, and she could 354 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: have like made a made a joke about the baby 355 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: or something like like a person who's not going to 356 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: know what's happening in the script, you know what I mean, 357 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: Like if you have to, if she's gonna go for 358 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: the joy, is gonna go through all the scripts. Listen, 359 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: if we could just like make fun of the baby, 360 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: would be a baby, but then we don't hurt anybody 361 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, you're right, Hillary, It definitely could have 362 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: been something just as offensive about a choice that somebody 363 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: made rather than exactly a choice instead of like their 364 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: hereditary shape. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Yeah Yeah. 365 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: It's just weird. And you see it. You see it 366 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: in those moments that feel kind of cheap, and then 367 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: you also see it again, like God, there's so much 368 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: good stuff in in the last episode. In this episode, 369 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: the blossoming truth and and sort of hard one friendship 370 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: between Brook and Rachel makes me so happy. I love it, 371 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: and then it makes me just want to like punch 372 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: a wall. That On the flip side, the guys say, 373 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: how do we get what we wish we were getting 374 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: from these young women. Let's make Rachel go and do. 375 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: By the way, it's like a line they've given to Brooke. 376 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Take two and call me in the morning about boys, 377 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: like they say, you know. Rachel's like, we'll pick one 378 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: and they'll make you feel better. And Brooke now is 379 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: the one saying, listen, it's not gonna it's just gonna 380 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: make me feel worse. It'll make you feel worse. And 381 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: Rachel's like, I don't care. So they've got her going 382 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: off to hook up with some guy and then like 383 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: being super stalkery and creepy with Nathan and saying, you 384 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: have Cooper's eyes all of a sudden, like she literally 385 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: learned nothing. The whole thing. It's just not real. It's 386 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: like it's creepy, porny fantasy that they made her stay 387 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: in her bra and she walked out of that bed. 388 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: For the first ten seconds, it follows her on her 389 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: tits through the room, on her face. I missed that. 390 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: I must have been looking at something, because I looked 391 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: up and I was like, why is she still in 392 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: her bra? It starts on the back of her bra 393 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: with her clasping it. She turns around into camera, but 394 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: only the bra. They don't ever start collecting her clothes. 395 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: And then it's not un till she's leaving the room 396 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: that you see her face and it's like, it's so 397 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: stupid that she would be leaving the room without her shirt, Like, get, 398 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: this is the first thing you do is get dressed. Yeah, 399 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: it's not like the guy's waking up. She had another 400 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: four seconds to put her shirt on. Yeah. Also, it's 401 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: not like it's a house she knows, or like what 402 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: is she going into an apartment hallway or that's the house? 403 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: Is there? I was like, what if they wouldn't have 404 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: done that to the three of us because we were 405 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: established at that point. But for Danielle was guest starring, 406 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: who's not in a position to be like why wouldn't 407 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: I just put my shirt on? You know? You see 408 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: that trickle down of like, oh, well these girls won't 409 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: do this now, so we'll hire someone who will classic 410 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: power dynamic. What's also really important for listeners to know 411 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: is when you're on camera, you don't see what the 412 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: frame is. We had no playback back then, so no, 413 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: we had no playback, So it's not like daniel knew 414 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: that they were zoomed in on her chest. She thought 415 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: she was getting up out of bed and the camera 416 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: was tracking her out of the room. And I just 417 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: do have to say, like on behalf of her and 418 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: us who were putting similar positions in any woman anywhere, 419 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 1: it's a real experience when you see the finished edited 420 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: product that is in the world and you go, oh, 421 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: you zoomed in on my tits, Like ill, I didn't 422 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: agree to that. Nobody even asked me. Just ask me, 423 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: like there were times when I might be okay with it. 424 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. It depends on the story. It depends 425 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: on how the structure of everything's going. Like it's not 426 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: that I'm saying no, it's just ask me. Don't just 427 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: take it. It's gratuitous and it's and it's creepy and 428 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, y'all. All I'm gonna say is now, 429 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: more often than not, on a set you have playback. 430 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: Ladies ask to see it, yea, and gentlemen, if you're uncomfortable, 431 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: you asked to see it too. It's free for all 432 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: in terms of consent. Everyone deserves it. Uh. Yeah, that 433 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: was weird her coming on to Nathan and that Nathan 434 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: would slowly leaning to kiss him, and Nathan at this point, 435 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: after she's already like released the time capsule and ruined 436 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: his wedding and almost killed almost killed his uncle, lets 437 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: her kiss him on the cheek. I'm like, and what's 438 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 1: and what is he doing waiting in that room? Cooper's gone? 439 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: And he went to go get his wallet leftovers or something, 440 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: But it's like he's standing there to tell her Cooper's gone. 441 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: It's so weird and high school and I'm sorry, I 442 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: know this is I know this is dumb, but I 443 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: will just never get over that. They wrote a line 444 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: for her to say, you have Cooper's eyes to James 445 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: Lafferty who has big blue eyes and Michael Truco's eyes 446 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: or brown? Are they out there blue? They're blue? Yes, 447 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just seeing Daniel's eyes reflected in the scene 448 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: and in my rage, I'm reassigning them. But I'm like, 449 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: who would say that anyway? It's just so dumb. It 450 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: didn't For a minute there, I was like, why didn't 451 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: he push her away? But then I thought about the 452 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: times when I've been in positions where I was I 453 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: just wasn't myself, like my my brain was somewhere else. 454 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: I was feeling awkward and I've had people like I've 455 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: had someone hit on me and it just and like 456 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't I just don't have the wherewithal and have 457 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: it in me in that moment, I'm just kind of 458 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: like you just get frozen. And he's a seventeen year 459 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: old boy and having this girl sort of like crawl 460 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: on him, and she's vulnerable because she just had this 461 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: horrible thing happened to him, and he's also got a 462 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: kind heart, and it's like if I pushed her away, also, 463 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: is that going to confound, you know, insults injury for 464 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: her in the bigger picture. I don't know. It didn't 465 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: bother me so much. I could see why. I didn't 466 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: think he was giving into it. I think he just 467 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: felt paralyzed. And I will say, for a scene that 468 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: I thought was so obviously stupid and terribly written, I 469 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: didn't think James did a very think. You know, I 470 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: thought James did a very good job because he did 471 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: look so uncomfortable and vulnerable, Like that look on his 472 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: face was like what is happening? It wasn't like I'm 473 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: attracted to her, Yeah, And I wasn't getting that no, no, 474 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I thought it was a good 475 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 1: choice on his part, because listen, we talked about this 476 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: when we were watching the episode. Sometimes you just gotta commit, 477 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: even if what's on the page is dumb. It's your job. 478 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: If the dialogue is bad, you're an actor. You have 479 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: to do it, you have to say it. So what 480 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: I really respect is that I believe Danill. The way 481 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: she looked at him made me uncomfortable, and the way 482 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: he reacted was uncomfortable. And those two, James and Denil 483 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: really committed to the scene regard us of what their 484 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: opinions of it were, and and they they did the 485 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: actors work, and so yeah, from the from the bird's 486 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: eye view, we're all going, what was this? How ridiculous? 487 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: But they really lent into the material. And like, there's 488 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: also the flip side from the bird's eye view, where 489 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, our friends are great. I'm so proud of you. 490 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: What it signaled to me and what we're gonna start 491 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: seeing more and more of our show eventually reached a 492 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: place where we were getting made fun of on the soup, 493 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: where um, we there were there were storyline things that 494 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: would fall through the cracks. And it started with little 495 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: things like why is Nathan hanging out in Cooper's room? 496 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: Why is Rachel just allowed in Cooper's room all the time? 497 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: You know, like little piddlie. I mean, there was another 498 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: one that made me crazy. Oh how did Dan refurbish 499 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: this crib all in one day? He's got like the 500 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: Brooke Davis five hour energy drinks, or he's like, I 501 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: want to get it all done on net. By the way, 502 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: he didn't even paint it. He sanded the whole thing down, 503 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: stained the wood, and then painted the stars and then 504 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: we'll cobbled the whole thing together. Cobbled it. That's the 505 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: perfect vocab word. But what it what it signals to 506 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: me is that what was going on behind the scenes 507 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: is we had a boss who was increasingly unable to 508 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: hear like feedback, where certainly someone caught all of these things. 509 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: Certainly someone must have been like, there's no way a 510 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: writer's room of what people is like. Hey, by the way, 511 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: it's still day one, and this feels weird. We're at 512 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: the hospital at ten o'clock at night to get pregnancy tests, 513 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, um, and so we're starting to see more 514 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: and more of that disinterest in reality. So that's why 515 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: when we start to move into like gun in the Cafe, 516 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, psycre Stalker from the Internet, some of these 517 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: like bigger, crazy storylines, it's because we had a we 518 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: leadership that didn't care about reality anymore. I was like, 519 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: who cares? The fans don't care, so we can do 520 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: whatever we want. That's right. It's like now knowing we're 521 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: gonna be watching Rachel chase after Nathan for another I 522 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: don't know what's five six episodes that's going to start happening, 523 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: and it just again, it feels lazy and boring. And 524 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: it would have been so interesting to to watch Rachel's 525 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: trajectory into uh getting worse instead of having it instantly happened. 526 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: And now she's just like, I'm not gonna grow, I'm 527 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: not going to change from this. I'm just gonna start 528 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: chasing after boys again. I would love to have actually 529 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: watched her. She proved herself as an actress to be 530 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: able to watch her go through a journey of trying 531 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: to change, finding out it felt too hard for her, 532 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: and then continually making the weaker choice every time. That's 533 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: interesting to watch well, and by the way, how cool 534 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: would it have been if in the spittal, instead of 535 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: immediately creeping on Nathan, she had been really vulnerable with 536 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Nathan and he had offered her some really kind advice 537 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: because they're both kind of traumatized from what happened, and 538 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: he had just been friendly, and then in the next 539 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: episode at school, she could have begun watching him in 540 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: a way like it's it's the flip, it's the immediate, 541 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: like I'm zooming in on pictures of you in my 542 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: phone and you're going to fix it. It's like stupid, 543 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: Calm down, just like, slow down a little bit. You're right. 544 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: So think about if that had happened, if if Rachel 545 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: had started to take it the wrong way and really 546 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: fell Wait a second, I'm actually falling in love with 547 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: this boy and started coming up with and then you 548 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: see the long journey that she's doing the same thing 549 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: with him that she did with Cooper, making it up 550 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: in her mind, creating this imaginary scenario where he really 551 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: loves her back. That takes you somewhere, because then when 552 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: that crashes and burns, it's so much harder to come 553 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: back from that. That's second time. Then it's like you 554 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: know what, just I'm throwing everything out the window and 555 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go be a manipulative party girl or 556 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: whatever label she wanted to live under. But instead it 557 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: was just that immediate switch and we missed it. We 558 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: got robbed. We keep getting robbed. They passed it a 559 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: little bit. There was that one visual after the crash 560 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: where you see Nathan and Rachel and her little dress 561 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: all wet on the banks of the shore and they're 562 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: laying there together with his arm over her, and so 563 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: the audience has had this like subliminal viewing of like, 564 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, their bodies close together, his arm around her, 565 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: and if she had flashbacks of that, you know, like yes, 566 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: seized me, you know, that could have been interesting instead 567 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: the transference he's my hero. There was a great storyline 568 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: to be had, and and then she could have been 569 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: the one saying to him, but you are a hero. 570 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: You are a hero, and he's like I think I am, 571 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: and all the guys are saying, look, dude, it makes 572 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: sense if you blacked out, but like you were, you 573 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: had to be the one who got us out of 574 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: the car, you know, like it could have gone a 575 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: little deeper instead of more of that like single white 576 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: female energy which Peyton hadn't in the last episode, and 577 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: now Rachel has it in this episode. And you know 578 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: who else has it in this episode? Brooke Davis? Because 579 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: where did she get a printer to print out that 580 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: creepy asked picture she took a Peyton and Lucas walking 581 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: out of the mall on her birthday? Did we have 582 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: at home printers in two thousand six? I don't know. Well, 583 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: they have them in the trailer. Oh, that's true. We 584 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: printed out continuity pictures in the trailer, did we at 585 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: that point? Yeah, we had switched over I think from polaroids. 586 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: We were like we were the last one of the 587 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: last in the row for but they, I mean rich 588 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: to have a well Brooke Brooks broke, what are you 589 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: talking about? As she always walks in exactly the wrong moment. Yeah, 590 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: and by the way, how often in a red dress 591 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: Season one after the wedding on her birthday? I'm like, 592 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: stop wearing red girl. It's like an omen. It's a 593 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: bad omen for you. Have you guys ever had, Like, 594 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: what's the worst birthday you ever had? Who? Worst birthday? Uh? Okay, 595 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: so listen, this is terrible story. I barely I briefly 596 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: touched on this in my book and Jeff was like, 597 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: you're going to tell that story and I was like, 598 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: just a little bit. I won't go into detail, but 599 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: I had had this had that the boyfriend I had 600 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: when I first started One True Hill was like whatever, 601 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: he's fine, but not for me. And one year for 602 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: my birthday, he gave me a watch and I was 603 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: like a watch? How, Like I don't wear watches and 604 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: he was like yeah, but like I don't know, You've 605 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: got all these weird hobbies and I'm really hoping you 606 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: grow out of most of them, so at least a 607 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: watch like you can keep for a long time. And 608 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: so to me, I always felt like that wasn't a 609 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: gift that said I support your interests. It was just like, okay, 610 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: it's a watch. And so after I gave birth to Gus, 611 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like a couple of months postpartum um, 612 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: Jeff showed up in the city like he had got 613 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: into the city, and he definitely didn't plan anything beforehand. 614 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: There was like no planning involved. In the day before 615 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: my birthday, He's like, I can't hang out with you. 616 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: I have to go buy your birthday present. And then 617 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: his parents were flying out in the morning, and he 618 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: really wanted us to open up presents before his parents 619 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: flew out. And so it's like nine o'clock in the 620 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: morning and I've got an infant, and like everybody wants 621 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: me to open presence and like be all performative. And 622 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: I opened up this present sking watch and I lost it. 623 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: I lost it, Oh my gosh. And and he didn't 624 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: know the back story, and he's just like, I bought 625 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: you a nice thing. Why are you being psychotic? Um? 626 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: And and so it was just it was a whole thing. 627 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: And so now he's like anytime I'm being high strung, 628 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: he's like, do I need to go buy you a watch? No, 629 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: but don't buy me a watch ever. I hate them. Yeah, 630 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: what about you? Like I don't like watches either. Anyway, 631 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: that's my long story. God, I love watches. I don't 632 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: remember which birthday it was, but I definitely had a 633 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: birthday that was like covered in rain and I couldn't 634 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: get where I needed to go, you know, miss the reservation, 635 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: like and you know, four of my friends couldn't show up, 636 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: like out of six, and you know, something happened the 637 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: last minute, and they were all like I hope you 638 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: guys all have fun, but you know those when you 639 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: know you don't, you throw a party and then like 640 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: everybody thinks everybody else's to be there, so they're like, 641 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: it's okay, I guess I can anyway, And uh yeah, 642 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: I just remember, like I think I was living in 643 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: New York at the time, and just you know, trying 644 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: to get a cab back home, and you know, trying 645 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: to get a cab in New York City in the 646 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: rain the hardest, so hard. That's why I got invented. Yeah, 647 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: I just got back to the apartment and probably put 648 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: on I think I put on a movie and called 649 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: it a night. But it was definitely one of those 650 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: like this did not This birthday did not go the 651 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: way I wanted. But then you take it as a 652 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: bad omen You're like, the whole year is gonna be like, yeah, 653 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be awful. But he loves Oh my god, 654 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: here and Sophia. I mean, I had a real bad birthday. 655 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: I can't really share the story of on this podcast, 656 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: but I think the I think the top level would 657 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: just be that I finally said to, you know, my 658 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: bad boyfriend, we'll just use that terminology for all of us, right. 659 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: I was just like, don't come, don't come, don't be here. Yeah. 660 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: I was like, don't, don't get on the plane, don't 661 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: come to see me here. I will I will call 662 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: reinforcements if you show up. And then the birthday wound 663 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: up being nice. You guys. I just can't get over 664 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: I can't get over that you hate watches. I love 665 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: what doesn't? Watches are fine? No, I know, I get it. 666 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: You bought yourself like a vintage Rolex and we're all 667 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: wood Tree Hill, And I was like so feeling. I 668 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: was like, this is my gift to myself. That's the thing. Oh, 669 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something even you know me. It's 670 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm just like I'm such like a like 671 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: a like a professor trapped like a cute man professor 672 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: in a tweet jacket kind of professor. I'm like that 673 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: guy trapped in my body. So like I just want 674 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: all the blazers with the elbow patches and all the 675 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: like big old men's watches. Like I don't think I've 676 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: ever had a nice watch. Maybe that's why I don't 677 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: really like that, because I'm always like they're they're they're 678 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: like kind of not the big thick ones. I have 679 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: had one that was big and thick, but then it 680 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: stopped working. That's my problem with watches. They stopped working 681 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: and then you have to replace the battery. But it's 682 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: the same thing with me in the post office, Like, 683 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm never going to replace that battery. The watch is 684 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: gonna sit on the shelf. You know what I'd prefer. 685 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: Let's just get cough bracelets, same energy, same weight. But 686 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: I don't have to look at numbers. I don't like 687 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: you love a cuff. I don't like something on me 688 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: that makes me feel guilty for not being where I'm 689 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be. Maybe that's I look at a clock 690 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: and I think guilt pressure. Yeah I don't want that. Well, yeah, 691 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 1: because that's what you're That's what your bad boyfriend assigned 692 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: to that watch for you. He guilt tripped you with 693 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: that watch. How rude? My hobbies are cool? God damnit listen. 694 00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: I I as an actor. As a viewer is a 695 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: Peyton enthusiast. Really liked how hard Peyton was working for 696 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: Brooke on this episode and for herself trying to find Derek. 697 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: Like Peyton was eager in this episode. I liked it. 698 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: And you know what those scenes between the Peyton and 699 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: Lucas scenes in the comment, like between you two sitting 700 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: out in front of them all and then back in 701 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: the car after you went into the mall, Like it 702 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: is so sweet and you see the friendship and the 703 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: lightness and the silliness and the chemistry and it it 704 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: really does, at least as a viewer for me, like 705 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: because I wasn't there, Like I don't remember those scenes, 706 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: I didn't film them. Watching it, I go, yeah, that's 707 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: that's what was brewing even in the first season as 708 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: those two became friends. And then obviously it's a team drama. 709 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: There has to be drama and conflict so other people 710 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: get in the way. But that you come back to 711 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: something that feel is really like I don't want to 712 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: be cheesy and say pure, but kind of you know 713 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's a little sparkly and it's 714 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: really fun to watch. I remember shooting those scenes with 715 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: Chad and you know, it's all night work, so that 716 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: was probably what two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning, 717 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: and maybe that's why we were so giggly, because you 718 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: get punchy at that time. But I I remember the 719 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: feeling of, oh my god, this might be something like 720 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: the scenes between Peyton and Lucas, because I've never really 721 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: gotten it before, Like it was always just like broody 722 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: kids being broody, right, And I'm like, this is like 723 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 1: a misery tar pit. And I remember like like legitimately 724 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 1: laughing in the car with Chad while we were shooting 725 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: those scenes, being like, well, this feels different, Like I 726 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: was just clocking a different energy, and we legitimately had 727 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: a nice time together in that car because it was 728 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 1: kids being kids, just like what's your favorite color? Anyway? 729 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: What's your favorite you know? Cereal? Okay, It's just it's fun. Well, 730 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: and maybe that's part of why it also feels so 731 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: fun to watch, because there was a lot going on 732 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: around you two in this episode that was intense or 733 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: that did feel a little not grounded in reality. So 734 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: then you get in the car and you're like, tell 735 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: me a story, and you're just laughing and sharing and bonding. 736 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: Yet it feels real. It's not a huge semi truck 737 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: driving by. That says murderer Boy. He's really coming unraveled, 738 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: and it's so annoying that he won't leave Karen alone. Yeah, 739 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: it is so strange. Yeah, why doesn't debar Why doesn't 740 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: Dan have the stalker wall, like of all of us 741 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 1: to have like the weird photo stalker images, it would 742 00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: be Dan, not us girls. Maybe he'll start on Sam 743 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: going through his old yearbook. Look at us Karen, where 744 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: we adorable Karen going to Kinks and Seox and all 745 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: the photos. Hey, did you guys notice the appearance, like 746 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: the sudden appearance of the giant red chair in Nathan 747 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: Haley's apartment. Listen, I didn't want to bring it up. 748 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: It's from the London episode. The set dressing in Nathan 749 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: and Haley's apartment is so jarring, it's so awful when 750 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: it's from the last episode. Remember you guys come back 751 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: and you say what is Yeah, and there's a giant 752 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: red chair under the that all it's under a canvas 753 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: of those London phote um where they called the London 754 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: telephone booths, and it's like a mural of a bunch 755 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: of them in a row and under and there's a 756 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: red chair, and the whole apartment is navy blue with 757 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: the London Bridge thing. And then she's already made a 758 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: pinterest board based on it. She's like word because when 759 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: you guys walked in and he was like, yeah, well, 760 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, we spent all our money on the wedding 761 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 1: and now all this new furniture. I was like, who 762 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: did this? Like look at that, look at that, look 763 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: at that, look at that. This is crazy to think 764 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: that a teenager did this. But it's just overkill. Also, 765 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: it was like friends style furniture. It's all like big 766 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: and it's like the central perk. Girl, it's pee Wee's playhouse. 767 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: It's like, why is that chair so big? And that's 768 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: a giant red painting. I don't even know what that 769 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: was on the walls, Like somebody said, we need more 770 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: red in this room, but they threw a complimentary color 771 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 1: up on the wall. Strange. It's very strange that everything 772 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: very strange. Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one 773 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: who noticed. I wasn't into it, But the scene that 774 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: you guys had in the apartment I did love because 775 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: Nathan's whole speech where he's like, I'm the kid. Should 776 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: my mother have a gun? Am I gonna let it 777 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: my life up? No? Like I'm the kid is something 778 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: that I have said as an adult to people in 779 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 1: my family and that, and I like to surprise myself 780 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: saying it, and I thought I was the only immature 781 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: person on the planet that had said stuff like that, 782 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 1: And so a teenager on TV saying I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 783 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 1: I love it. And what I loved too is that 784 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: he was so just frank about it. I'm the kid. 785 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: My dad's got a restraining order, my mom's got a 786 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: glock enough, And and then that moment where you two 787 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: are really bonding over how this is so inappropriate and 788 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: you're just supposed to be able to be the kids, 789 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: and then he says, I'm not going to let anything 790 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: get in the way of my dreams. I'm going to 791 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: play basketball. And we know what, Haley, How Haley takes 792 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: that you have that moment where you take a breath. 793 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: My god, I didn't even think about that. Oh yeah, 794 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a kid. Oh man, it like it hints. Yeah. Wait, 795 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I have to go back and watch 796 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: it now. It's amazing to me how the writing can 797 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: sometimes nail it so hard and be so good and 798 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: right on, and then sometimes it's so far off. It's wild, 799 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: especially in an episode like this, because it's seesaws back 800 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: and forth so aggressively it like gives you whip lack. 801 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: You're like, how can this show be so good and 802 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: so embarrassing? Like what's happening? Yeah? Well, you also had 803 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: another really good moment when you came and you found 804 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: him on the bridge where he's just been like taking naps. 805 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: I guess um, and you're like, you know, you have 806 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: to let me in. We will do this together, and 807 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 1: Nathan says something like, you know, I'm not quite ready 808 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: to let you in yet. I'm still I'm still like 809 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 1: figuring this out. Did you write that line down, Sophia, 810 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 1: I did. He says, I don't understand it enough to 811 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: let you in yet. Yeah. Oh I felt that I 812 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: did too, because we've all been there, right when you're 813 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: trying to figure out why something is affecting you the 814 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: way that it is and you don't have the words yet, 815 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: and it's such a it's such a beautiful thing for 816 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: him to say, rather than to be like stop, leave 817 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: me alone, you know, to to freak out, to just say, yes, 818 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: you're right, I am going through something, but I don't 819 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: know how to tell you about it yet. I don't 820 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: have the words for this. Yet it's it's such a 821 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: gift to give to the person who loves you that 822 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: sees that you're having a hard time. Yeah, I just 823 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 1: I loved it. I really really loved it. And then 824 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,760 Speaker 1: we went from that moment to Brooke putting her creepy 825 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: little stalker photo of Peyton and Lucas in her photo album, 826 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: and I was like, here we go, We're back on 827 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: the Seesaw. I'm uncomfortable. Um, what I will say about 828 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: that seesaw is this scene gave us the push Vice 829 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: mug with the little message we got to see on 830 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: the bottom at the end of the episode that's like 831 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: it says to my posh best friend, love Peyton. And 832 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: it feels really like nice and full circle that now 833 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: we have kids that have like mugs and t shirts 834 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: and like little pictures with their friends that are like, 835 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: you're the book to my Peyton, You're the posh to 836 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: my Scary Spice. I was always Scary Spice in my 837 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: group of girlfriends. Like that was the one that I 838 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: was like, Jimson Scary, I like her. I love it. 839 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: I love that so much. Oh my god, I don't 840 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: know why. That just reminded me something about like picturing 841 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: those girls remind it, like gave it gave me such 842 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: a flashback when you were asking about birthdays. So I 843 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: was like, I can't really tell you the story of 844 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,720 Speaker 1: my worst it's not it's not fit to be printed. 845 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: But no, the weirdest birthday I've ever had my twenty 846 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: fifth birthday. My friends took me to Vegas and joy 847 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 1: that's the birthday. There's a photo of me and one 848 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 1: of my best friends and I'm in a little black dress. 849 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 1: It's like a very posh by Stress And it's that 850 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: birthday party that the fans or perhaps fans with no 851 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,800 Speaker 1: boundaries whatever they're called, have photo shopped all the photos 852 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: with us into them. So there are photos of you 853 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: and me and it looks like I'm kissing you on 854 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: the cheek. They photo shopped a bunch of pictures of 855 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: me and James. They photoshopped this picture and I yes, 856 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: and there's like all these pictures floating around, but you, 857 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: James and Lee were not there. I was like on 858 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: a trip with my college best friends in Vegas. But 859 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: they've created all these pictures and I feel sort of 860 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: bad about it because fans are like, oh, I love 861 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: these pictures of them and I'm like, those aren't real, 862 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: and I'm uncomfortable. Listen, I thought they were real. I 863 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: was like, where were they that they were kissing? Where 864 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: was everybody? What I missed out? You're like where, We're like, 865 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: where was that party that Sophia bit Joy's face? I didn't. 866 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't her. It was a joke. It was like 867 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: an old running joke from childhood. And I'm just like, 868 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: do we tell people these are fake? Maybe we just 869 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: let them believe the fantasy. It's okay. It's so weird. 870 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: And also, I'm like, there are a few people I 871 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: have as many photos with as you guys. Yeah, so 872 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: why are they photoshopping? Like anything? There are so many 873 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: photoshops I've seen over the years. So many people have 874 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: sent me photos, even friends of mine who were like, uh, 875 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: asking me about a hair color or something, and they're 876 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: like screen grab. They said, they screen grab something from 877 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: their phone, and I'm like, this photo is completely fabricated. 878 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: First of all, that's not my body at all, and 879 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: I never was. I was never in that place with 880 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: this person. There's so many James and I that look 881 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: really personal and enacted and they're totally photos. I'm just 882 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: like have a couple of those, dude. Weirdly, I have 883 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: some of those. I have some of those with him. 884 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: I have some of those with Lee. And the thing 885 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: that makes me the most uncomfortable. One of my best 886 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: best guy friends, who for clarification of like why we 887 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: take ridiculous photos with each other is gay. There's a 888 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: photo of us from a party and we were like 889 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: sending it to a friend as a as a gag, 890 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 1: and I like, we took a photo and I'm like 891 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: licking the side of his face. I'm not like actually 892 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: licking his face. I just take my sure, but like 893 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: there's I'm like, you know, there's just like posing for 894 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: a photo that's funny, and then there's the full action, 895 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 1: which feels a little like were wolfee that don't know 896 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: if I'm down with somebody, And this makes me so creeped. 897 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:52,280 Speaker 1: Somebody photoshopped Jensen in photo. It looks like I'm licking 898 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: Danielle's husband's face. Just like I would like to call 899 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: a time out here, Like there has to be a 900 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,280 Speaker 1: world in which there's a little bit of a boundary 901 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:07,879 Speaker 1: and people stopped doing this. I also just think, like 902 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm a little prude, but I 903 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: think manipulated photos in general should be off limits. Like 904 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: we didn't consent to that I have posted. I have 905 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: posted a manipulated photo for Chad's birthday. One year. I 906 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,240 Speaker 1: had been to a party with Chad and so assumed 907 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: that this picture that I posted was real. No, I 908 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: had been with some reality TV star and it never 909 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 1: occurred to me that that picture had been altered. I've 910 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: been sitting at a table with this like reality TV kid, 911 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, like I was hanging out with my buddies. 912 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even but like some magazine came along and 913 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: took a picture, and then over the years someone manipulated it. 914 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: And I remember Chad and I were both at this party, 915 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: so I just assumed the picture was real. And then 916 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: one day I saw the real picture and I was like, 917 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 1: wait a second, this is weird. I took this picture 918 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:58,240 Speaker 1: with Chad. My God, I got duped. I got duped 919 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: by God. I love it well. Speaking of um Sophia 920 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: being a werewolf, Okay, we have a fan question. Let's 921 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: move to a fan question here from zib Would you 922 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: rather be cast as witches or vampires in a supernatural movie? 923 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: On which is I'm vampire all the way? Are you kidding? 924 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: Interview with the Vampires like forever my obsession. And you 925 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: were really good at throwing up blood on Sophia's show. 926 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: You want to do that spittake with like all the 927 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: bloody vomit, and you nailed that. I didn't. Like. I 928 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: get to dress up in like eighteen century seven nineteenth 929 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: century ruffles and things and then put vampire teeth in 930 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: and just like bite on some handsome boys, you know 931 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: on Our favorite costumer from One Tree Hill, Carol Cutshall 932 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: is the designer of Interview with the Vampire. She's designing 933 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: all of those costumes. Wait, design, what do you mean? 934 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: Is there a retail a remake? Yes, Interview with the 935 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: Vampires on AMC the series act. Oh yeah, and it's 936 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: like critics love you, sang to me right now that 937 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know. You know this, your weekend is planned. Joy, 938 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: you have things, have something to do right now. Carol 939 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: is killing it her Instagram page where she's showing all 940 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: her inspiration videos. I gotta go look at this. Yeah yeah, 941 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 1: Carol Cultshaw is a beast. But yeah, so we're witches 942 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,919 Speaker 1: all day. But that's also my god. I mean When 943 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: we heard they were doing another practical magic we were like, 944 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: can we be in it? And they were like, it's 945 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: a prequel, guys. The kids are like fourteen. And they 946 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: were like, oh, okay, alright, bye. Don't they have mothers? 947 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 1: Don't they have moms? Yeah, we could be witchy moms. Like, 948 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: I'm into it? Can I tell you that funny? The 949 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: Salem Witch Trials right now in seventh grade history class, 950 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: and I am chomping at the bit to get into 951 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: the classroom because they're doing a mock trial. And I 952 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh, hello, do you need any acting advice 953 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: from a real witch? I would love to come and 954 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: talk to you about it. Well, you're a little dog too. 955 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I like it. I also like Samantha's question, 956 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,280 Speaker 1: do you want to kiss Mary or slap Uncle Cooper, 957 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: Jake or Skills? I'm like, apparently it should be like, 958 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, kiss Mary or bite um? Yeah, I don't know. 959 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to slap anyone unless it was a 960 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: sexy slap. Oh who would give us? It was like, 961 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: unless it was like a deb and Skills kind of 962 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: a slap scene, like how dare you do it again? 963 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing Brookes should have married Uncle Cooper. Yeah. 964 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: For me. From there, I'm Cooper is a Mary and 965 00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: and Jake and Skills are a kiss. I I don't no, 966 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't wouldn't slap any of them. I guess I 967 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: don't want to write circumstances. Um. I can't see anybody 968 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: needing to slap Jake for any reason, because he's just 969 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: a puppy dog. But I don't know. I guess I 970 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,399 Speaker 1: guess skills could could get fresh sometimes. Maybe. I mean 971 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 1: I I like the sage wisdom of skills. I could 972 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: be down with Mary and that guy and Peyton would 973 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: totally make out with Cooper, and I could see her 974 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: slapping Jake just as like a just fucking be cool man, 975 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 1: Like why down here? I took a plane ticket from 976 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 1: Pete Wins, Like couldn't we just kiss all weekend? All 977 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 1: these big talks. God, that feels that's it? Um, I 978 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: love that fan question do we want to spin a wheel? 979 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: I have to go pick up my son. I love it. 980 00:56:54,320 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: We get a little most likely to start decorating for 981 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 1: Christmas November one. I mean, like maybe a Haley thing. 982 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: All of us are like, no, is it a Haley thing. Yeah, 983 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: it's probably Haley, maybe Karen for the cafe, like who 984 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: who's hype? Ever, No, I feel like Haley is too 985 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: chilled for it. I think it's like an Erica Marsh thing. 986 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: M yeah, then Erica Marsh hyperchick thing, or maybe like 987 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: of the boys Brooks Jewish. I don't know, yeah, right, 988 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, like because you know, I come from 989 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: a blended family, so we do both holidays, and I'm 990 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: kind of like, I gotta wait till after Thanksgiving and 991 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: then I put up like a little something for this 992 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 1: side and a little something for this side, and things 993 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 1: got easier once I got like a Christmas tree that 994 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: lives in a box. Just pop it out. Um, got 995 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 1: a Christmas tree over here when I'm Honora over here 996 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: and everybody gets a holiday. Yeah, I don't know that 997 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: it's any of our core five on the show. I 998 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: think it's definitely like a sneak attack. It's like a 999 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: jump or one of the board. Eric Marsh is a 1000 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: great instinct as well. Yeah, but in real life, who 1001 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: are always realized it's Buckley. Buckley is Psycho for Christmas, 1002 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: you guys, fun, Yeah, it's him? Okay, alright, good, So 1003 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: Erica Marsh and Robert Buckley. He literally wrote an entire 1004 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: ass Hamemark movie about his family's decorating for Christmas, like 1005 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: people would drive to their house to go see their decorations. Amazing. 1006 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: I love it. Um. What's next week? Hey, next week 1007 00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,959 Speaker 1: we have Season four, Episode three, Good News people who 1008 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: love bad News. Oh dear, oh dear, what fun. It's 1009 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna be fun. You're to find We're gonna find our 1010 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: way through it. Guys, we can't wait to watch with you. 1011 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining, Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to 1012 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: leave us a review. 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