1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Quick Bolepsicks has the first animo or up the side 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: by forty thirty forty ten time touchdown Joston. There is 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: no off season for your Houston Texans. Game Day is 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: every day. No, it's Texans All Elexans Welcome into Texans 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: All Access. Happy NFL Draft Day. We're kicking off three 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: days of coverage with tonight's All Access Mark vandamer John 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Harris will be on a little bit later, but first 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: it's a Draft day tradition, myself and the General John 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: McLain for a little pre draft Texans All Access. John, 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: are you there? Hi'm here DP. How are you? I'm great. 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm really happy that I'm not doing this show from 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: my bedroom like i was last year. So this year 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: where I'm in Sports Radio six ten, the studios here 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: off of inside of Greenway Plaza. You are where John, exactly, 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm at home more. I've benned since we started doing 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: MS and I've been doing all my taxos here for 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: almost a year, and hopefully next year everything we'll be 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: back to normal and we can be a NRG stadium. Yeah, 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: I do miss being in the press box for the picks. 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: Although Day three gets kind of slow with it being 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: such a long day, but I am happy that we're 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more in person. I'm happy to be 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: back in the studio. I remember last year I did 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: the show with you, and it just felt really strange 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: because normally we do this show from the draft party 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: inside the stadium. So while there's obviously no party this 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: year inside the stadium because one COVID and two there 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: are no picks tonight for the Texans, it is nice 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: to have a little semblance of normalcy. So well, I'll 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: tell you something a minute mentioned slow before you were born. 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: I covered my first draft and it was sixteen rounds 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: and they were doing one day, and then he cut 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: it to twelve and they do it one day, and 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: you talk about boring. Especially, teams had to make so 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: many pigs and they didn't make as many trades as 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: they do now. And when they went to seven, it 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: was then it went from twelve to eight to seven, 38 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: and it's been seven for quite a while. And I 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: like the way they spread it over three days, because 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: that's three days at three days instead of one to 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: talk about, to write about, to tweet about. And then 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: we'll have rookie minicamps coming up after the draft, and 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: so it's a fine time of the year. And I'm 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: already thinking about the Texans draft in two thousand and 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: twenty two, when they have their first and second round 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: picks again for the first time since two thousand nineteen 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: when they drafted Titus Howard and Make Sharping and Lonnie 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Johnson in the first two rounds. But I think that'll 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: be exciting. But there's so much going on right now, 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: especially involving the intrigue with the quarterbacks. You know what 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: happens up high, the Aaron Rodgers, the Aaron Rodgers reports 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: that he wants out of Green Bay, so there's still 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: plenty to be interested in. Is just such such an 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: exciting time, even when the team you cover dozen a 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: pics in the first two rounds. Yeah, I totally agree 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: with you, John, And actually that's going to bring us 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: to some headlines because I have to ask you about 58 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers reports. It seems like they're really taking 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: they're picking up some steam. But I want to get 60 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: your thoughts on is this smoking mirrors? Is this Aaron 61 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers angling for a new contract? The timing of it. 62 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: I was talking to Brandon Porter, we were walking in 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: he thinks it suspect. I just feel like it's a 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: lot of pieces that have to fall into place very quickly. 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: But do you see something happening with Aaron Rodgers over 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the course of the next three days. No, because according 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: to reports forty nine Ers offered third overall pick and 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: more yesterday and we're turned down. And something in reading 69 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: the national media and the green Bay media today they 70 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: mentioned at his agent had been in Green Bay trying 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: to negotiate an extension and didn't get an extension, and 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: so now he's leaked his bomb right before the draft, 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: kind of like to get revenge. Last year they said 74 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: he was upset when the Packers didn't tell him they 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: were trading up to take Jordan Love, and they said 76 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: Rogers didn't like that. But if it was a move 77 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: to light of Fire, and I made sure work because 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: he was the MVP. They came one game from the 79 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: Super Bowl for the second year in a row, and 80 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: if they were to trade him, elevate Jordan Love. But 81 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he played. He wasn't active, and also 82 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: with no preseason games last year, and I just don't 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: see them going with him when you're trying to get 84 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and so they don't have to 85 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: trade Aaron Rodgers. First time a player has ever been 86 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: able to use a game show as leverage. I've seen 87 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: him use baseball, I've seen him use wrastling, I've seen 88 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: him use a lot of things, but I've never seen 89 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: us a game show and they can call his bluff 90 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: and say, okay, you can walk away from your thirty 91 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: five million or whatever he gets paid a year and 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: go to Jeopardy and I'm pretty sure they're not going 93 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: to pay you that much money. But I'll be surprised 94 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: if he's traded. But then again, stranger things have happened. 95 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Deep Yeah, you're right, John, and I you know, I 96 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: was reading some of the reports. It seems like Pro 97 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: Football talk is all over it because the first four 98 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: stories are about Aaron Rodgers, and I was trying to 99 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: understand where the being disgruntled had come from, because you're right, 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: he did have a fantastic season. Drafting Jordan Love while 101 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: everyone sort of questioned it last year, did light a 102 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: fire under Aaron Rodgers. But it seemed like he's still 103 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: very upset by the fact that instead of drafting a 104 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: player that could help him on offense or on defense. 105 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: They went and they drafted his replacement. It seems a 106 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: little odd that a year later this would be the 107 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: catalyst for Aaron Rodgers coming out. I mean, I personally, 108 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: I think maybe he's just angling for a contract extension 109 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: or more money. Maybe he is unhappy, but hey, you 110 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: know what, maybe money would make him happier, because you're right, 111 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: how much money are gonna make playing Jepardy and he's 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: hosting Jeopardy and he can do that for the rest 113 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: of his days. I still feel like he's got a 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of great football left in him, and he obviously 115 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: still wants to win that Super Bowl. The other thing 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: about him is, like you mentioned a contract, the fact 117 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: that his agent did go there and try to get 118 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: an extension that was satisfactory and he did not, And 119 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: they didn't redo his contract to turn his base salary 120 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: into signing bonus to lower his cap figure like everybody 121 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: expected them to do. One thing I have not said, well, 122 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: one thing I did see from a reputable national reporters. 123 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: He just don't like people in the front office there. Now, 124 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: I can't imagine why that is in a blanket indictment 125 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: of those guys, because you haven't heard anything about him. 126 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: Evanated jerks up there. One thing I'll bet deep that 127 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: irritates him is he sees every everything the Buccaneers have 128 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: done to help Tom Brady. He wants Antonio Brown, they 129 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: make it happen. He wants Gronk come out of retirement. 130 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: They make it happen. They put players around it, and 131 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: they consulted. They made sure to get all twenty two 132 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: starters back for another Super Bowl run to help him 133 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: win an eighth three, saying they just about everything they 134 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: do is designed to benefit Tom Brady, and other than 135 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: paying Aaron Rodgers a lot of money, it doesn't seem 136 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: like they've done a lot of that. Everybody last year 137 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: said that they thought they were draft a receiver and 138 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: they didn't. But as it turned out, you know, he's 139 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: got Pro Bowl running back, Pro Bowl receiver, Pro Bowl 140 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: tight end, Pro Bowl offensive lineman. They have not done 141 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: as much in free agency and the draft as I'm 142 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: sure he wants them to do. All right, John, Another 143 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: story I want to bounce off of you the New 144 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: Orleans Saint apparently trying to move up into the top 145 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: ten per ESPN's Diana Russini. What are your thoughts on 146 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: that that the Saints are trying to move into the 147 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: top ten, and also not for a quarterback but for 148 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: a cornerback. What do you make of that? I think 149 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: it is almost impossible to go from twenty eight into 150 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: the top ten. Number one. Say they gave you two 151 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: number ones the next two years and swapped ones this year. Okay, 152 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: you're going to get two number ones and they're going 153 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: to get a corner Patrick's certain or j C. Horn, 154 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: both the sons of Farmer NFL longtime NFL players. But 155 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: based on what we think we know about the Saints, 156 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: those are going to be low picks. And the Saints 157 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't see them giving up two ones, and I'm 158 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: not swapping this year and giving up a one next 159 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: year that they think's going to be low like twenty eight. 160 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: Sure I could see them doing that, but what do 161 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: you give up two ones? And would you take them? 162 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Just like that trade with Detroit and the Rams, Detroit's 163 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: probably going to get two low number one picks out 164 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: of that. Now, we thought when the Texans made that 165 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: deal for Laramie Tonsole and Kenny Stills that the Texans 166 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: were gonna have low number one picks, and they did 167 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: last year, so Miami had that low pick, so we thought, okay, 168 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: going into this past season, they're going to get another 169 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: low pick. Oops, that's not the way it worked out, 170 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: and they got the third pick, which they par laid 171 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: down to twelve and backup to six. So a lot 172 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: of it. If somebody's trying to trade up with you 173 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: and you're going to drop a way down, you better 174 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: make sure it hurts them. I agree. But you know 175 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: what John here, and this is the conspiracy theorist in me, 176 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: what if the Saints and we've heard these reports about 177 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots too, I don't know how accurate they are 178 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: that they're also trying to angle into the top ten 179 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: because they need a quarterback and they're looking at justin fields. Now, 180 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: do you think a lot of these teams are maybe 181 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: angling to get into the top ten because they know 182 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: that fields might be available, Top ten, top twelve, maybe picks. 183 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: And these are all teams that need quarterbacks because obviously 184 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: the Saints that they lost your Breeze a retirement, and 185 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: while they say they have their quarterbacks on their roster, 186 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: it's Jamis Winston and Taysom Hill. I mean, maybe I 187 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: don't know if those are their long term solutions. Maybe 188 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: they think they are, but how much do you think 189 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: teams are going to try to make a move tonight 190 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: to get to Justin Fields. Well, first of all, we 191 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: don't know Fields is not going third. Over all, they're 192 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: trying to get Mac Jones or they're trying to get 193 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. But I'll say this last week, Mickey Loomis 194 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: did these Saints pre draft news conference and talked about, oh, 195 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: we love our quarterback room. And I think if they're 196 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: trying to go from twenty eight into the top ten, 197 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: neither of those top corners is worth sacrificing as much 198 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: as it would take to make that big of a jump. 199 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: And so I think if they go up, it'd be 200 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: for a quarterback. And the thing about the Patriots, they've 201 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: never had to draft a quarterback. They've drafted a couple 202 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: like Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacobe Brisette and Ryan Mallett, but 203 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: they haven't needed one because of Brady. So Bill Belichick 204 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: has his eyes number one pick since two thousand and eight. 205 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't see him trying to jump up in the 206 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: top five or six. But if say one of those 207 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: guys slipped down too, I think they're all going to 208 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: be gone Denver at number nine. But say the Broncos 209 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: just gave up a six for Teddy Bridgewater and they 210 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: still have Drew Locke and people saying they still take 211 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback if one was there, But say they didn't 212 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: say they were happy to go with Bridgewater or Locke. 213 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: And I can't imagine Vic Fangio, the coach, would be 214 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: happy with them because he's trying to save his job. 215 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: He'll go into the season on a hot seat. So 216 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: maybe Bill Belichick would jump from fifteen to ten or 217 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: eight or nine, But his mo has always been the 218 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: trade down for extra peck. But maybe he thinks Cam 219 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Newton is the guy to take advantage of signing as 220 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: many free agent players as they have. But I just 221 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: I think somebody's going to trade up to get a quarterback. 222 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: Don't know who, But I don't think everybody will just 223 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: stand pat and be able to get the top five 224 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks where they want them. John, I was looking at 225 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: your mock draft you just released it yesterday. That's your 226 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: final mock draft, right for the fifth and final one. 227 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: It's the one I consider the official one. And I 228 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: knew if I went back after the draft DP, and 229 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 1: I went over every pick in the first round and 230 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: all five of my mock drafts, and did I get 231 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: him in any of the mock drafts. I still wouldn't 232 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: get very many. One year I got double figures. I 233 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: had twelve, and to me, I see people, oh I had, 234 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I had twenty eight or thirty two first round picks. 235 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: So what if you don't have them going to the team. 236 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: You're not playing in the big leagues, you're playing in 237 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: the miners. Yeah, it's funny that you should say that. 238 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Because I was looking at your mock draft. I don't 239 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: know how much it's involved. Since your first version you 240 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: probably have a better idea of that. Lots a lot, okay, 241 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: because your final one. You have the draft order for 242 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: the first five the same. You've got the Jaguars, Jets, 243 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, Falcons, Bengals, and you've got the quarterbacks 244 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: going to the top four teams. You've got Jaguars taking 245 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Jets Zach Wilson, forty nine, Ers taking Matt Jones, 246 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: the Falcons trade Lance and then and then the Bengals 247 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: taking tight end Kyle Pitts. Well, first of all, DP, 248 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: most people have gone with the Falcons, gone with Kyle Pitts, 249 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that's what they'll probably do. I wasn't 250 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: buying into the mac Jones speculation, but I decided to 251 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: jump on board with everybody. Yeah, and here's my reasoning 252 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: on that. Kyle Shanahan made that trade. He has finals 253 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: say and we all know what you want a quarterback. 254 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: Nobody talked about mac Jones as a top five prospect 255 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: until he did that deal. And Chris Simms, his good 256 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: buddy and his former teammate at Texas, he immediately says 257 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: they're going to draft mac Jones, and everybody's going, well, 258 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: Chris Simms would know because he's best friends with Shanahan. Now, 259 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure Kyle Shanahan said, Chris, we're making this trade 260 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: for mac Jones, and you can put it out there 261 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: on Pro Football Talking NBC for everybody to know. Now, 262 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: if he told him, Chris, we're taking mac Jones, but 263 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't want you to put it out, of course, 264 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: he's not gonna put it out. So I'm guessing they 265 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: probably are going to take somebody besides mac Jones. I 266 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: think it'd be something else if they took Kyle Pitts, 267 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: but I'm guessing it'll betray Lancer Justin Fields. But the 268 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: reason I picked a quarterback for the Falcons, Matt Ryan 269 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: will be thirty six next month. He's still a good quarterback, 270 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: not a great quarterback. His salary, they had to restructure 271 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: his contract to get below the cap. Their new cap expert, 272 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: Chris Olsen, did such an outstanding job with the Texans 273 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: before he got fired. He was hired and he had 274 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: inherited a cap nightmare, but he got him under the 275 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: cap by the deadline. And I think next year Ryan's 276 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: cap is forty eight million. Well, you can't have a 277 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: quarterback who's cap figure is forty eight million. You have 278 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: a new coach, Arthur Smith, a former offensive coordinator. You 279 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: have Terry Fontineau, the new GM who spent thirteen years 280 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. It just seems to me that they 281 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: are going to think, we're not going to be picking 282 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: this high again. And next year doesn't look like it's 283 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: going to be a good year for quarterbacks. Now, there 284 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: may be is Zach Wilson that develops their Joe Burrow 285 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: who develops Texans a better hope they do, And so 286 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that they're gonna go, you know what, we 287 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: like this guy, Let's take him and we'll see how 288 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: he does for a year, and then we'll worry about 289 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan next year. Now I say that I'm probably wrong. 290 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: You know the Julio Jones trade talk that they if 291 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: they if they were to trade Julio Jones on gen second, 292 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: they would say fifteen point three million off their cap. 293 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: Terry Foulton of the GM has said two or three 294 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: times this week he can't guarantee that Jones is going 295 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: to be on a roster. But the key to this 296 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: DP is do you give up a second round pick 297 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: for a thirty two year old wide receiver who has 298 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: a bad contract and is coming off an injury plagued gear. 299 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you do unless you think you are 300 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: one wide receiver away from going to Super Bowl the 301 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: next year or two. Who knows, maybe Tom Brady, I'll 302 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: tell the Buccaneers front office, Hey, I want him to. 303 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: He seems to like collecting veteran players. But it is 304 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: a draft that's very deep. It's a draft that's deep 305 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: and wide receivers. So I don't know how much I'm 306 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: buying into the Julio Jones trade. Maybe they're just trying 307 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: to throw feelers out there to see who might bite. 308 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: But do you do you think that Atlanta might trade 309 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: out of that trade back out of that number four, 310 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: because yeah, if yeah, if t is not the guy 311 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: that they necessarily want, I think there's a good chance 312 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: they could trade down. Now, they don't get the pick 313 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: of any position player in the draft, whether it's Kyle Pitts. 314 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: If they traded, I could see them taking Pits. If 315 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: they traded Julio Jones, they still got Calvin Ridley receiver. 316 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: He's really good, and so if you had Ridley and 317 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: Jones and pitch, you'd have a great offense. But the 318 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: passing game's not your problem problem. You need to run 319 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: the ball better and play better defense. But I could 320 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: see them trading down, but not a long way down 321 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: unless they decided we want a defensive player. This is 322 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: a top heavy offensive draft. Let's trade down to like ten, 323 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: and there's a good chance we'll have a choice. That 324 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: would be the Cowboys of every defensive player on the board, 325 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: or just about all the defensive players on the board, 326 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: and that would give them a great option. Plus i'd 327 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: want extra picks next year. Not this year. This draft 328 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: DP is such a crapshoot because you go back, no combine, 329 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: no private workouts, no in person luncher dinners, no bringing 330 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: thirty prospects into your facility. You have game take, you 331 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: have you have pro days, and then of course you 332 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: have some zoom calls with players. Your doctors didn't even 333 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: get to examine every player with health issues. So we're 334 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: going to have more mistakes, I believe in this draft 335 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: than ever, and so that's why I'm trying to load 336 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: up next year. That's like I think Nick Assaria, I 337 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: think we you would agree with me. Deep He's not 338 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: gonna sit on his hands for seven rounds. He's been 339 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: too active in the off season, so I think he'll 340 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: made a trade or two, and I think it'd be 341 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: down And I'm guessing he'd rather have pick next year 342 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: when you have thirty seven new players, and you have 343 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: draft choices coming, undrafted free agents coming, and there are 344 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: a whole lot, a whole lot of still unsigned veterans 345 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: who are available to be signed anytime before training camp, 346 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: farmer starters, the kind of guys that Nick Caserio has 347 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: been signing. So to me, the draft is not as 348 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: important this year if you don't have your top picks, 349 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: you know, stockpile for two twenty two. Yeah, it does. 350 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: It is a smaller draft pool than in recent years. 351 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: And this is something I when I asked John Harris 352 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: when he comes in in a little bit, just how 353 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: to evaluate players when a lot of them didn't play 354 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 1: last year they opted out due to COVID concerns, or 355 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: like Big ten players, their season was canceled, then it 356 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: started and it was delayed. They played fewer games, there 357 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: was less game film, Like a lot of these players 358 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: just don't have the same quality of you know, game 359 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: film and medical exams and interviews. You just don't have 360 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: that same information that you do in normal years. So 361 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: you're right, like the twenty twenty two draft, I feel 362 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: like there's gonna be a lot it's it's hard enough 363 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: to make an informed decision in the draft and to 364 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: make the right pick, and this year it just seems 365 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: like it's even more challenging. Outside of maybe you know, 366 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: the top two or three at every position group, I 367 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: think those everyone pretty much agrees who those top players 368 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: are for the most part. But you know, next year, 369 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be so much better to have those picks 370 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: because you're right, we've got all these free agents here. 371 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: For the Texans, you've got a number of new players, 372 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: and then you had a number of new draft picks. 373 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: It's it's a lot. It's a lot of adjusting for 374 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: a team to to have that many new players when 375 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: there are so many veterans that are still available out there. 376 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: There are four number one picks already traded for twenty 377 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: twenty two. If Carson Wentz reaches certain bonuses with the Colts, 378 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: then he's going to cost a number one pick to Philadelphia, 379 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: so that would be five, and we may see more 380 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: that here. If I'm the Jets and the Dolphins, I 381 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: got two number one picks. I don't want both of 382 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: them this year. I don't want to pick into twenties 383 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: this year. I'd rather parlay that into something it might 384 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: be higher next year, or in the same neighborhood. And 385 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: because it reduces a chance you're going to make mistakes. 386 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: You know, the best teams are always going to do well, 387 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: no matter what the circumstances. The bad teams are usually 388 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: going to do poorly no matter what the circumstances. But 389 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: I go back to what Gary kulbiacc used to say 390 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: Gary didn't like going to pro days. He'd do it, 391 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: but the only reason he liked to He always liked 392 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: to sit down with a player and look him in 393 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: the eye while he was talking to him, and he 394 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: did that at the combine. He would do that at 395 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: Pro days, and he thought that was important. And he 396 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: could because he said, I can get the workouts on 397 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: tape and watch them, watch him in the office and 398 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: or at home. I don't need to sit there and 399 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: watch him the same thing. But so this year, unless 400 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: you could look a guy in the iyron zoom, which 401 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: is kind of hard if you're like Gary Kubiak, and 402 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: that part was important to you. Chance you're gonna make mistakes. 403 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: But the truth is deep, it's a crapshoot anyway. Could 404 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: they make any more mistakes than they always make? Think 405 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: about the money they invest, the sophistication of the scouting process, 406 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: the resources, the tools, not this year, but in normal years, 407 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: and they still it's about his Nicossario told us it's 408 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: about a fifty fifty proposition. Yeah, and you'ren't even more 409 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: limited with the with the information you have this year. John. 410 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: As far as the Texans, are concerned. Let me ask 411 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: you this, what do you predict for position groups where 412 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: the Texans are gonna we're what the draft needs are now? 413 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: Because Nickossario was asked about it as a pre draft 414 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: pressor a few weeks ago, he pretty much said, and 415 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, not to look at all the players at 416 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: each particular position group that they have signed, but that 417 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: he's trying to create competition. So he gave the example 418 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: of a running back for the Patriots that they drafted 419 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: Damian here, Damian Harris, Yes, a few years ago. That 420 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: you know how they drafted him even though they had 421 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: four running backs and a fullback on their roster. So 422 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: with that being said, we've we've seen sort of the 423 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: roster and how it's how it's shaken out. Does it 424 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: change your thoughts on the position groups that the Texans 425 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: will be looking at, especially tomorrow. That was easy for 426 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots to do because they won Super Bowls and 427 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: they had Tom Brady. Yeah. True, you know to me, 428 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: you can't operate that way here. But what to Sarrio 429 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: has done by bringing in thirty seven new players, He's 430 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: made it where they they have needs almost every position, 431 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: but not one is so glaring that he and Matt 432 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Bazigan at James Liftford they said, Okay, we got to 433 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: find a corner you know, I think their biggest needs 434 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: a cornerback. Even though they've signed four defensive line because 435 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: you never have enough pass rushers. I think they specially 436 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: need a guy to play tackle. And love Ee Smith's 437 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: four three. I think because they're going for two to 438 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: four to three for the first time since twenty ten 439 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: as the base defense, and they'll play three four as well. 440 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: But I think when you make that kind of change, 441 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: you got to have different kind of players in your 442 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: front seven, and they'll get smaller, they'll get faster, quicker, 443 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: they'll get off the ball and get up the field 444 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: on the line. And they got a lot of candidates, 445 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: but not somebody where you go right now, uhha, that 446 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: guy is going to be great. You got outside linebackers 447 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: moving to defensive end. So I feel confident that they'll 448 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: come away with more defense than offense. And if you 449 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: think about it, on offense, he needs a third quarterback. Now, 450 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm not counting to Shaun Watson because I don't think 451 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: he'll be on the team when the season starts, but 452 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: so you got to have a third quarterback. He signed 453 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: to Rod Taylor, he traded for Ryan Finley. So I'm 454 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: guessing he's going to draft a quarterback just because of interest, 455 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, for to talk about to write about having 456 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the third round would generate more of 457 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: a buzz, especially if it's Kellen Mahn from A and 458 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: M or Kyle Trash from Houston and But I don't 459 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: seem using that pick on a running back or a safety, 460 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: but just about any other position. But he signed so 461 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: many linemen, I'll say this, I don't think he'll draft 462 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. If they played tomorrow DP, their top 463 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: three receivers be Brandon Cooks, Randall Cobb and Kiqt, so 464 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: they need another receiver. Isaiah Coulter didn't get on the field. 465 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: They've signed three I think veterans, But if there was 466 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: somebody he really liked in the third round, I could 467 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: seem taking a receiver. But I still feel confident that 468 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: first pick is going to be defense. Yeah I would, 469 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: I would agree with you. But if you combine the 470 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: defensive lineman and the linebackers group together, the Texans have 471 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: twenty three players on their roster. But I think you're right. 472 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: I think moving from a three four to a four 473 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: three it's a different skill set. Maybe you've got a 474 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: different vision for what sort of player you want to 475 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: fit in those spots, so I would I would go 476 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: defense too, although I do always like it when we 477 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: draft offensive players. I think it's kind of exciting to 478 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: write about a new wide receiver running back. So we'll see. 479 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: We'll have to wait till tomorrow. Unless something crazy happens tonight, 480 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: which I'm not predicting or foreseeing for the Texans. Well, 481 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: we'll keep watching tonight's draft and see what happens tomorrow. John, 482 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: You'll be watching the draft from tonight, and then you'll 483 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: be writing stories and where else can people follow your stuff? 484 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: Texas Sports Nation and everything we do columns, podcast, TV show, Twitter, Twitter, 485 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: everything we've got goes on Texas SportsNation dot com. Thank 486 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: you very much. It's a tradition that I always enjoy 487 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: have fun with a draft, and I'll hope to see 488 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: you very soon somewhere besides on a zooe. I agree, John, 489 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: and my pleasure. It's always fun catching up with you 490 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: before the draft. Thanks so much. Have a great draft 491 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: week and coming up, we've got the very very the 492 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: one and only John Harris. He'll be joining me a 493 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: little bit later on the show. We've got Mark Vandermer. 494 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: We got more pre draft coverage right before Texans Draft 495 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: Live kicks off at seven pm. Right now, it's Texans 496 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: All Access. Will be write back with more draft coverage. 497 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: You don't go anywhere touchdown, Texans Radio continues in a moment, 498 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the conversation. It's Texans All Excess on 499 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Welcome back to Texans All Access dpcity joining 500 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: you on a draft day pre Draft Texans All Access 501 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: as we head into what thirty more less than thirty 502 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: minutes until the twenty twenty one draft begins. And right 503 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: now I've got John Harris with me. It's Johnny. This 504 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: is the first time we have done radio in person, 505 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: face to face in an over a year. I just 506 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: realized that is so sad. Like that makes me truly 507 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: truly sad. I mean of and I'm not saying this 508 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: because I'm on the air. You are one of my 509 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: favorite human beings on the face of this earth, and 510 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: I just I hate that. I mean, that's what this, 511 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: that's what this has done. I mean, you know, Mark 512 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: and I we talk a lot. Obviously, we're you know, 513 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: we do zooms a lot. I mean, this is the 514 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: first time I've seen him and I don't know how long, 515 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's just odd. I thought about this the 516 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: other day when I went into building and I was 517 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: in the building for the first time in a little while, 518 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: and I'd been talking to guys like Tyler Marcott and 519 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: Tyler Shuttarth who do a lot of our do our 520 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 1: videography and do just a tremendous, tremendous job of all 521 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: our TV shows. And I saw them and I just 522 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: was kind of like, we're a like my little brothers 523 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: in some sense because they're way younger than us, and 524 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: I just I love seeing them. And it was like, 525 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: because I hadn't seen him in so long, I felt 526 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: like my social skills were like off. You know, I'm 527 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: just off. I was so happy to see them, but 528 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: it was like I was speaking Yoda to them. It 529 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: was like happy day you two. You know, have you 530 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: noticed that when you run into people like I spend 531 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: like I am a chatty person anyway, but now when 532 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: I see someone, I spend so much longer talking to 533 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 1: them because you just really like I didn't realize how 534 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: much I missed in person, Like I actually enjoyed being home. 535 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I was cool with it. Yeah, and then I started 536 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: going back to the office. And then I came home 537 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: and I told my husband. I was like, I really 538 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: like being in the office just for the socializing, Like 539 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: I still can get work done. And he said, do 540 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: you not know who you are? Like, why are you 541 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: surprised that you like being around people? Yeah, I guess 542 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: I just sort of forgot. But now that we're actually 543 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: doing radio and person, I'm excited. I'm excited that you 544 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,239 Speaker 1: guys get to do the draft in person and not 545 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: from your respective homes for the next three days, because 546 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how. I think it's it's just hard 547 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: to do radio like that anyway, and then you know, 548 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: you want to bounce things off of each other, and 549 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: you just you guys naturally have that report anyway. But 550 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: I want to ask, you know, heading into draft week, 551 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: this is this is really your time to shine, Johnny. 552 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: We all joke about it for like a leading up 553 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: to the draft, like it's John Harris time, He's got 554 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: the John Harris one hundred. That is um, in my 555 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: husband's words, the best the single best piece of content 556 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: that anyone produces anywhere, anywhere, and and we all and yeah, 557 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: Sean's and I totally agree with you with him as well. 558 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: But how do you prepare for these next three days? 559 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: I know it starts like last It started like last year, 560 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: but just for the draft and knowing all these guys, 561 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: the recall, remembering who gets drafted when, because I know, 562 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: names start to jumble together in my mind. How do 563 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 1: you keep everybody straight and what you want your You're 564 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: talking points about each particular player. It's so funny you 565 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: say that, because the other day I had had a 566 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: thought as I looked at my Harris one hundred and 567 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: so I have a sheet I haven't excelled. Uh I'm sorry, 568 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Google sheet, but I have every position kind of broken down, 569 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: and then I've got to, you know, all their different heights, 570 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: weight speeds, all that kind of stuff. And then I've 571 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: got a column in which I've got an evaluation, you know, 572 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: right up on them, and a lot of them are long. 573 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: But I've got so many players in there that I'm like, man, 574 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: should I take some of these and to shorten them 575 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: to like, you know, three words short stout, which you 576 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: know something, you know, that makes for the radio a 577 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: little bit easier, But there's so much time on the 578 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: radio to expand on it. I don't really feel like 579 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: I've got to do that. But there there are times 580 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: where where I'm like, Okay, wait a second, when did 581 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I watch that guy? I watched him back in Okay, 582 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: I watched I study in February. So some guys I 583 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: go back and I watch again, and then some guys 584 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: I go back and I end up just watching them 585 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: because I'm watching somebody else. You know, I'm getting my 586 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: final pieces together on a particular player, and it's like 587 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: this other guy keeps showing up, like, Okay, are my 588 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: notes right on this guy? Do I like? Do I 589 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: like this guy? There are always guys I say for 590 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: the very end. Collie Wearing was one of those guys 591 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: because I had heard hi him at San Diego State, 592 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: but he was a junior. I knew he hadn't played 593 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot of football, so I was I was not 594 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 1: expecting him to player. So he then does, and I'm like, 595 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: oh crap. So I knew I was behind the eight 596 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: ball on him, and so I was like, you know what, 597 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna be one of those guys I just have 598 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: to save to the very end. He goes to combody 599 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: crushed the combine. Now I'm even more intrigued. I watched him, 600 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: I think three days before the draft, at three games 601 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: of him, and I watched him. I'm like, oh, man, 602 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: I love this guy. I love him. I love everything 603 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: about him. Collie just hasn't been able to stay in 604 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: the field as too healthy, and I think if he can, 605 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: I think we'll see something from him. It's no matter 606 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: whether he could stay healthy. And I mean that's a 607 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: big factor. Kyle Shannon talked about it with Jimmy Garoppolo. 608 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: We talked about it for years with Will Fuller. If 609 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: a guy could just get on the field, we could 610 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: see what he could do. And I think ye. But 611 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: Collie was one of those guys I just I say 612 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: for the very end, and that's happened a few times, 613 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: guys at the very end where I'm like, oh wow. 614 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: Breshott Perriman was another one of those guys. I remember 615 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: watching Brashote Perriman the very and going, Wow, this guy's 616 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: got he's got some ability. And he's been around the 617 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: league I think now for six seven years and done 618 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: a very good job, but it's hard. It helps to 619 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: have that document in front of me just to make sure, 620 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: like I know, I know, I think I know what 621 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: I want to say, but I got to make sure 622 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: that it jabs with up my notes. Say so, I've 623 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: always I've got that with me at all times, and 624 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: I'll share it with you and Mark and Drew if 625 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: you want it. I would be thrilled. Okay. The other 626 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: the other question I have because I feel like now 627 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: in the last few years, we've kind of gotten a 628 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: sense of the sort of players that Texans would draft. 629 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: Now you've got Nicko Sirio, you've got David Culley, you've 630 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: got a brand new coaching staff, you've got Lovey Smith. 631 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: Do you still feel like you have a good sense of, Hey, 632 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: this is a guy that would fit this team or 633 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: is it? It just seems like there's a lot of 634 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: intangible qualities that coaches and general managers and scouting departments 635 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: look for. Now the scouting department for the Texans, there's 636 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot of playover. There's Matt Basserger 637 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: and this James Lippworth. There's still some of the same 638 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: guys that you've seen in the past. If they've looked 639 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: at how hard is it this year heading into this 640 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: year's draft to sort of know, hey, this this would 641 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: be a good a good player that the Texans might want. Well, 642 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is the change in defense, 643 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: going from a three four to four three. I asked 644 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: love you about that. I said, is too much made 645 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: about that? And you said no, I don't think. So 646 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: he goes, it's a it's a different it's a different animal, 647 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: especially for those outside guys. There's a different type of 648 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: player that you're you're looking for in four man fronts 649 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: versus three man fronts. It's just that that's the way 650 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: it is. He said, no, I don't think. I don't 651 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: think too much is made of it. I think it 652 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: is a legit thing. And so you start looking at guys. 653 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: For example, I was talking to a buddy of mine, 654 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: today's agent. He's asking me about quitty pay defensive end 655 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: from Michigan, and a lot of times I just have 656 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: a column called edge, and that's where I put guys 657 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: that are four three defensive ends three four outside linebackers, 658 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: and there's a distinct difference between them. You know, A 659 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: Zizos large from Georgia he's a three four outside linebacker. 660 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: I don't know that he could hold up as a 661 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: four three defensive end. So as much as I love 662 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: him and said the Texas did have a pick and 663 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: at range where he would be available, it would be 664 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: tough because he's two hundred and forty three pounds. Now, 665 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: he's physical, everything you want and an outside guy, but 666 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: I just don't think he could hold up in a 667 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: four to three quit. He pays two hundred and seventy 668 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: two pounds. Now, that's a four three defensive end. So 669 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: that change right off the bat. That's there. But Mike 670 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: Guy tells me that the same sort of things that 671 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: they were looking for, you know, tough m guys that 672 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: were versatile, guys that could do a few different things, 673 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: but guys they could rely on, guys that didn't have 674 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: a lot off the field red flags, those sort of things. 675 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: I think that's still going to be there. So I 676 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: think there are some guys that I kind of I 677 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: kind of have over the side that I've I've put 678 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: in the Harris one hundred or in my hairs to 679 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: fifty actually, and and I've studied them because I've tried 680 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: to have a holistic view on everybody. But I got 681 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: a feeling that guy's not going to be a text 682 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: and that doesn't that guy doesn't fit what it is 683 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: that we're about. I don't think that's the kind of 684 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: guy we're gonna get. But I do think from a 685 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, twitchy, explosiveness, those sort of things, I think 686 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: those are going to be pretty similar across the board. 687 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: I think the biggest change will just be that on 688 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: the defensive line in particular, and at the linebacker position. 689 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: I think that's the other one, because you were looking 690 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: at guys that could play inside linebacker or what we 691 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: perceives inside linebacker. Now, if you're in a four to 692 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: three and you're in your base set that will linebacker, it, 693 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: it can be really interesting what you do with that 694 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: will linebacker could be a guy that's, you know, two 695 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: hundred twenty five, two hundred and thirty, can run a 696 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: little bit. Can also be a guy that's maybe like 697 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: two fifteen and really can fly. And it's kind of 698 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: a hybrid safety linebacker mix sort of thing too. So 699 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: that's another thing. We didn't really kind of have that 700 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: with the three four in a Romeo, but we could 701 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: have it in a four to three under Levey, So 702 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: there are gonna be some some subtle differences in what 703 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: they're looking for looking for from that aspect, but my 704 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: gut tells me that they'll be looking for players that 705 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: they got trustworthy information from from people on the road. 706 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: Because that's the trickiest part I think of this draft 707 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: is that they the scouts, weren't able to get on 708 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: the wrote as much. So who did they trust for information? 709 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: And that's where Lovey Smith comes into because, first of all, 710 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: love he coached Illinois. Illinois got some prospects of positions 711 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: that would make sense for us, and the Lovey coached 712 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: against guys in the Big Ten, so he has a 713 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: pretty good knowledge. I would think love He's gonna be 714 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: a pretty good resource as this draft goes on. And 715 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: I asked him about that and he was like, yeah, 716 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: you know that, really that helped being in college and 717 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: seeing some of these guys up closely. He brought up 718 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: Desmond King in the game that Illinois played against in 719 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: Love's first year Illinois, Desmond King had a pick in 720 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: that game, and love you remembered it. And so I'm 721 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: not gonna say that's why he's here, but that was 722 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: one of the things. I'm sure that Lovey was like, hey, 723 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: locked it away, And I'm sure there are probably some 724 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: players he did the same form in the Big Ten 725 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: and with at Illinois because he's got a few. He's 726 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: got a few players from Illinois for sure. All Right. So, Johnny, 727 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: when when you were coming up with your Harris one hundred, 728 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: how hard was it for you this year with obviously 729 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: no NFL combine and the season. John McClinton and I 730 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: were discussing this, how last season, for a lot of 731 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: players they either opted out due to COVID concerns or 732 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: like the Big Ten, they had a different season than 733 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: the SEC, different number of games. How hard was it 734 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: for you to evaluate because you didn't have that same 735 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: number of games to look at as you have in 736 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: the past. It wasn't It wasn't hard from that standpoint 737 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: because I could always go back. My man Tommy over 738 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: in our film department, hooks me up for anything I need. 739 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: If i'd like, Tommy, look this guy apped out twenty twenty, 740 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: I need some of his twenty nineteen film, He'd get 741 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: it for me. So I was able to, you know, 742 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: look at guys that that adopted out in twenty twenty. 743 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: We made it tricky for me, and I'll use Rashod 744 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: Bateman as an example. Rashod was tricky because when the 745 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: Big ten said we're out, he had this, he had 746 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: this statement He's leaving. Then the Big ten came back, 747 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: and then he said, okay, I'm coming back. Then he played, 748 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: and then he left with two or three games left 749 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: in the year, and I was like, ah, that just 750 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: feels like I don't like that. I didn't like it. 751 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: We'll come to find out. He actually had COVID and 752 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: so he played with it during the year, and he 753 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: just felt like he was never right from COVID, and 754 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: that's why at the end of the year he was 755 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: just like, I need to shut it down. And they 756 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: had already missed like two or three games in a 757 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: row because of COVID issues, and so he decided to 758 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: shut it down. But he also was having and so 759 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: at first where I looked at it as that that 760 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: seems kind of hope. You know, you leave with two 761 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: or three games left, that's I don't care for that 762 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: too much. But then when you find out and dig 763 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: a little deep run, I'm like, oh, you know, maybe, okay, 764 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't be as harsh on him because, but 765 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: I see in the field there's a late first early 766 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: second round player. But how do I factor that in? 767 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: How does that opt out thing come in? I asked 768 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: Nick about that. He said, look, you just look at 769 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: what you got. If they played three games, you look 770 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: at three games. They played twenty games, Look at twenty games, 771 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: he said, you just look at what you got. So 772 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't affect you. Don't think it'll hurt a player 773 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: that offered. Oh I do think it will. I think 774 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: there's not gonna tell me that. Nick's not gonna say, yeah, 775 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: we're right. Yes. Kevin Colbert from the Pittsburgh steel is 776 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: Jim for the Steelers. Set it point blank. If two 777 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: guys are even and one guy afted out and one 778 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: guy played, we're taking a guy that played. Interest. I 779 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: guarantee you that thirty two teams to go look at 780 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: it differently, but they'll all have a thought on the 781 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: guys that opted out. All right, Johnny, Any big predictions 782 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: for tonight, because we're all talking about trades. Who's gonna 783 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: move up? What's gonna be the big surprise of tonight? 784 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: Who is it going to be? Is it going to 785 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: be someone not taking a quarterback in the first three picks, 786 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: there's gon be someone else moving up to get a quarterback. 787 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: What are you What is your prediction for the big 788 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: surprise for time, Well, the Baron Rodgers. Yeah. The one 789 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: that would really I mean wow, the one that would 790 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: really kind of throw us off our Axel is San 791 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers drafting a non quarterback at three. 792 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: That would be that would throw everybody off for Axel, like, 793 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: oh wow. Last year's draft really kind of the twenty 794 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: twenty draft kind of just stayed on course. I'm I'm 795 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: kind of checking them off as I went, like, oh, 796 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty well. And also the Packers took Jordan 797 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: Love and it was like, that's where it took a 798 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: left turn. That was a massive surprise, and that's where 799 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: it really took a left turn. I don't know, man, 800 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: there's so with the quarterbacks, you just don't know which 801 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: one one of them will will start to fall a 802 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: little bit and then which team will then trade up 803 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: to go get that guy. That's that's the one I'm 804 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: looking for, because there will be a quarterback that will 805 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: fall a little bit. Five m. Somebody's gonna fall. What 806 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: team moves up to go get that guy. If it 807 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: is Mac Jones and teams like, man, I don't know 808 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: does Mac how far does he fall? How far do 809 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: is justin fields fall? That's the one to me. But 810 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: if San Francisco takes no quarterback, oh my god, totally sideways. 811 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: That wasn't even on my radar, Johnny, But thanks for 812 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: pointing that out. All right, you can listen to John Harris. 813 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: He's coming up here and about what ten fifteen minutes 814 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: for Texans Draft Live. He'll be on, he likes to 815 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: say for the next thirty seven hours covering all of 816 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft and all of the Texans picks, So 817 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: you definitely don't want to miss that. We're gonna take 818 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: a break. But when we come back, we got one 819 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: final segment and Mark VanderMeer joins me to talk about 820 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 1: his takes and I have a lot of questions about 821 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: his vanderma That's all coming up one final segment of 822 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Don't go anywhere, don't miss a single 823 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: thing on your favorite team. Follow us on Twitter at 824 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. This is Texans Radio Work. You're listening to 825 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: Texans All Access for the latest stories and videos on 826 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: your Houston Texans. Check out Houston Texans dot com. We're 827 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 1: back for a final segment of Texans All Access. I've 828 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: got Mark vandermere joining me with just a few minutes 829 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: away from the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. But first, 830 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: the pick is Win presented by Miller Lite. If you 831 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: haven't done so, go to Houston Texans dot com. You 832 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: can sign up to win. It's a contest. It'll be 833 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 1: open until May one. You can win any number of prizes. 834 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: You just put in your name in your email. You 835 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: can win like bows, headphones, whatever for a year, Papa 836 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: John's for a year, mattress firm mattresses, tickets to a 837 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: Texans home game, and so much more. Checkout Houston Texans 838 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: dot com for more on that. But for more on 839 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, We've got Mark VanderMeer who joins me. 840 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: It's the first time you and I are also face 841 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: to face. It's true deal over a year. We have 842 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: about a minute before we have to go get ready 843 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: for the show. But it's great to see It is 844 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: great to see you too, Mark, and uh and it's 845 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: been fun listen to you at John McClean. You had 846 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: John Harris Johnny Harrison for sixteen hours. This is going 847 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: to be crazy. Look, I know you want to ask 848 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: me about the vandermock. Vandermock is crazy, of course, not 849 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: that I do it for clicks or anything, but you know, 850 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: I had a couple of quarterbacks going late in one 851 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: and then two one with Sam Ellinger from the University 852 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: of Texas and others Ian book. But those were late 853 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: round picks and just in case and also clickbait. So 854 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: I admit that the real stuff happens in just a 855 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: few minutes. It's gonna be awesome, all right, So how 856 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: do you prepare for the draft? Mark, Because when you 857 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 1: don't have a pick in the first or the second round, 858 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: do you practice pronunciations like you do on the road? 859 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: I actually have a pronunciation guy with me. Well, you 860 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: know how I think about you. I bring in the Henchman. Okay, 861 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: the best in the bids, John Harris Andre where these 862 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: guys know these players? I'm like, guys, what do you think. 863 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: It's the easiest job in the world. I got Robert 864 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: Hensley here producing and helping us out with all the 865 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: news and information that breaks, so we can't go wrong. 866 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm just a point guard, and I'm a point guard. 867 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't score. I'm just distributing the ball tonight. Really 868 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: good team player is what you are. Everybody's pat moving 869 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: in right now. We've got Andre Robert Hensley. It's so 870 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: nice to see everybody back. I'm sure you guys are excited. 871 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: Gosh to so excited day. It is like game day, 872 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: except it's been two years since we've had a game 873 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: because last year were all we were all doing this 874 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: from our homes last year. Mark So with with the 875 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: NFL Draft coming up, with three days of coverage, no 876 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: draft party obviously, so you're here doing it in studiou 877 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: what are you most looking forward to tonight? And sir 878 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: Arno picks the Texans aren't on the board unless something 879 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: crazy happens. What are you looking for? I think the 880 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: big stories Aaron Rodgers. Does anything happen with that tonight 881 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: other than what we heard today? Right? And I think 882 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: that you know, we all want to see how it 883 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: goes with number three in the draft San Francisco. Are 884 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: they gonna take Mac Jones, are they gonna take Field? 885 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: Are they gonna do something else with the pick? Is 886 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: Rogers involved? We'll find out soon enough. All right, Mark, 887 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: thanks so much. You can listen to Mark Vandermere, John Harris, 888 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: andre Ware. They're coming up at seven o'clock Texans at 889 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: Draft Live. The twenty twenty one NFL Draft coverage starts here. 890 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss it. They've got everything 891 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: for a draft and everything Texans related. It's right here 892 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six ten. That's gonna do for Texans 893 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: All Access. Thank you so much for listening. Check out 894 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com for all the coverage from this 895 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: year's draft. Thanks so much for listening, and as always, 896 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: go Texans. This is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten.