1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and iHeartRadio Podcast. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Ladies, are we lit to perfection? 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 3: We are gonna try. Sometimes I just feel like somebody 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 3: the other day I was talking. I was at the 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 3: dance studio. That's my new life. Cat jump in the second. Anyways, 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: we don't really need to. But this woman was like 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 3: talking to another woman. She's like, you know, and then 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: I got a ring light like she was shameful, and 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: I just stopped her. I said, I don't want to. 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: I don't want to interrupt or even be in in 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: your conversation, but you deserve the ring light. And she 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: was like, thank you. 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: I mean it does make me feel better. 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: And I said, sis, at a certain level, you at 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: a certain age, you just deserve the lighting you deserve 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 3: and that's okay, So get what you need ring lights. 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 4: I feel like we should post a video on socials 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 4: and people should tell us what we should do to 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 4: make it better. 20 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: Listen, were they. 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: Just get more sun? 22 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Maybe? 23 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: So? 24 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, if you guys want, there's spray 25 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: tan and stuff. 26 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: I cannot I don't spray tan. 27 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: But also there is a beautiful sun. You can get 28 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: some vitamin D. 29 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 5: It's just I think that's it too, do I Yeah, 30 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 5: I put fifty on every day and I feel is like, yeah, 31 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 5: not ok you Ristine is still like a golden California pause. 32 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: German skin, exactly. It gave me nice German skin. How's 33 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: everybody doing? 34 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Great? 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: Real? I actually feel better, right, I know it's lovely 36 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: how I feel right now? What are you taking? I 37 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: did the blood cleaning thing that I was very scared about, 38 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: and I felt like even the next day. I texted 39 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: Nate and I said, is this placebo or Do I 40 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: feel better? And He's like, nope, You're going to continue 41 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: to feel better. He's on a mission. Oh that's so awesome. Yeah, 42 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: and I'm doing different testosterone ish things. Uh, you know, 43 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: the little melty. I always forget what that's called. But it 44 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: just metabolizes like testosterone without raising your estrogen as much. 45 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: So we're just gonna calm the estrogen. We're gonna get 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: me out of my own personal storm. 47 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 6: Good. 48 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: But I got a lot of messages, a lot of 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: women are like, I feel nuts. I'm like, oh, listen, 50 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: I'm certifiable. I would not have passed a psych exam 51 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: for the last two months. Well again, I think it's 52 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: just the trying to get the estrogen all I mean, 53 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: all all the things you know, and that's all goes 54 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: into hormones in wild this age. So I was exhausted 55 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: from like trying to keep it in the middle of 56 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: the road all day, my emotions. Just by the end 57 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: of the day, I'm like, I just got to go 58 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: to bed before I say something people can't forget, you know. Yeah, 59 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: I think it's that too, But it's also like sometimes 60 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, is what am I low in? Because I'll 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: I'm so tired at the end of the day. But 62 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: I also have to remember, like it is, roman is 63 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: a handful and it's exhausting, and all the sports on 64 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: top of it. So it's it's a lot. Yeah, but 65 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: we're doing it. Yeah, Yeah, we. 66 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: Are doing this. It's interesting. 67 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 4: I was just talking to a friend and who has 68 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 4: a teenager who she finally took her to the doctor 69 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: and was like, can you please just do panels because 70 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 4: things are not right? Yeah, And it's like it's so 71 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: interesting to me because even as a teenager that stuff 72 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: can be really off and nobody really checks for that, 73 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: you know. And then if you think like you're in 74 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 4: high school and you're dealing with all these emotions already 75 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: and then those you know, and it was it was 76 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: very similar like estrogen, you know that type stuff as 77 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 4: a teenager and I'm like, they don't even look at that, 78 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: you know, and it's so fascinating because think about how 79 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: crazy you felt and how like and then to be 80 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: a teenager on top of it and to like it 81 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: was just I know, I literally was like, I wish 82 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: that we could go get all of it. And we've 83 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: talked about that before, but we could get panels on 84 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: all of our children and check all of those things 85 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: and get that and check before you get to a point, 86 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: you know. 87 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: I was just talking to Alan about this because I 88 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: can't remember how this came up, but we were talking 89 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: about back in the day, like high school stuff, and 90 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: I was telling them that I got y, I was 91 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: hyperga but that is like there was so much probably 92 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: more going on because of you know, not actually doing 93 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: proper level things back then, like that was you know, 94 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: not really available. But the doctor's advice to me, oh, 95 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: this is why because he had a mountain dew in 96 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: his car, and I said, wow, the mountain dew just 97 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: like brings me back to yeah, because he was he 98 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: was training and it was a really hot day and 99 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: so well I'll get to that. So yeah, he was 100 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: I'm like shocked, I know, but he was just craving 101 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: because his body was low in the sugar and stuff. 102 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: So but my doctor was like, have a mountain dew 103 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: every day at eleven because that would like help me 104 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: not pass out in school or be dizzy the sugar 105 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: because of the sugar. But I'm like, couldn't you have 106 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 3: told me to do like a fresh squeeze orange shorge juice? 107 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could have, but that was orange juice, you guys. 108 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: We were still a happle juice or like healthy sugars 109 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: instead of a mountain dew. But we were operating inside 110 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: the food pyramid at the time. Do you remember when 111 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: you had to eat like twelve servings of grains? And yes, I. 112 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: Bet like a little like a shot of mountain dew 113 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 4: probably brings you back so quick. 114 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just made me think of that, and 115 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: I was like, wow, that is sad that that was 116 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: what the doctor's advice was. Yeah, it is back in 117 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: the day you got dating ourselves. Wow, mountain that's crazy 118 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: prescribed by a doctor. 119 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: What a time what you got? 120 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: Wow? 121 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 4: That is so funny that Alan had a mountain dew 122 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: and You're like, why I know? 123 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: I was like what I mean? 124 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 5: I literally feel shocked, like I Alan is so I 125 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 5: knew he liked mountain dew. 126 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: Like that's the first time him or seen him drink 127 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: it over. 128 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 4: We had a conversation one time about it. I feel like, 129 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: not that he it was something about it, like he 130 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: had never had it, or like what is it or something. 131 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: There was like a whole conversation about it. I feel 132 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: like maybe it was somebody else, but yeah, that was awesome. 133 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he was like it was it was one 134 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: of his players had it or something. 135 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, I bet that helped quickly. 136 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. 137 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: Track your best. 138 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 7: From executive producers Ben Higgins and Ashley Iikeinetti. This is 139 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 7: Famously available. 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Moments. 163 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 8: Listen to Between Us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 164 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 8: or wherever you get your podcasts. 165 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: Does anybody have a whine about it today? 166 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: I mean I do, Hey, I really want to talk 167 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: about it. 168 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: But those are the ones we like the it's interesting 169 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: because well, by the time we listen to this, this 170 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: will have already happened. 171 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, but yeah, so I've never really I've talked. 172 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 4: About like my issues with like my you know, past 173 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: with my mother and like stuff like that. 174 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: Wait, sorry pause, have you ever talked to your mom 175 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: about talking about your mom on the podcast? So when 176 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: she called you that one day, you still didn't kind 177 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: of did not call her. She hasn't said, like, don't 178 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: talk about me. Do you think she still listens before 179 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: we go because we have said things on this podcast 180 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: we shouldn't say. 181 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 10: Night here. 182 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: I forget how many people listen. 183 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if she listens or she doesn't. Now 184 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: I have sat next to her in softball games for 185 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, and I sit there and 186 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: I pray the whole time. 187 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: Do not bring it up? Do not bring it up? 188 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: Because I'm stuck here. What will I do? Where will 189 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: I go? But anyways, this actually isn't fully about her. Okay, 190 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: so great news. She's entangled in it. 191 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: Caculi Karen's like laughing about it. 192 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: Okay, we probably shouldn't laugh, but I laugh when I'm uncomfortable. 193 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: Let's say so. Oh, Basically, I've never really talked about 194 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 4: kind of like really my brothers and my relationship with them. 195 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: Jana knows a little bit about that, you know whatever, 196 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 4: But there's a lot there. But long story short, my 197 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 4: whine about it for this week is that one of 198 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: my brothers who we used to have a great relationship. 199 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: Everyone lives here, just so we're clear, everyone lives within 200 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: ten minutes of each other, maybe fifteen, but we don't 201 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: see them very often. Well, he is turning fifty and 202 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: my mother asks me at the last offball game. Actually, 203 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: she was like, what are we doing for his fiftieth birthday? 204 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: And I go, I don't know what y'all are doing. 205 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: And she was like, wait what? And I was like, 206 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. Plan something and if we 207 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: can be there, we'll be there. So that kind of happens. 208 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: They planned something that's a dinner tonight. 209 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 11: Again, Can I pause to ask a question, Yeah, does 210 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 11: it make you sad in that moment that you wouldn't 211 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 11: know what to plan or how to plan for your 212 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 11: own brother? No, because I'm not planning it, But do 213 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 11: you does it make you sad that you don't have 214 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 11: that relationship? 215 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 4: Not anymore because deep down probably yes, deep deep down 216 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 4: feel yeah. 217 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: Is there a way that you can rekindle that. 218 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: Or talk to him about it or not anymore? 219 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: It's been years of sit downs ending and got it 220 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: not good. So we've just decided that we will. Do 221 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 4: you pray about it? 222 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: I do pray about it, and we're still sitting where. 223 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 3: We're sitting, So I don't know, or do you pray 224 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 3: for reconciliation? 225 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: No, okay, I don't. 226 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: Do you pray? 227 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: Do you pray about it? 228 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 10: Well? 229 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 3: I just wonder like. 230 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: And knowing that I had to kind of walk away 231 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: from it for my own there you go, my own, 232 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: my own self and my own family. 233 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: So this is where this kind of comes in. 234 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: You know, babature no coach, No, not the coach. 235 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: No, not the coach. They live in our city. We 236 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: see them a lot more. 237 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 6: Yes. 238 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: So within this, my son, who is sixteen, sits down 239 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: with us and he's like, we're talking about plans for 240 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: tonight the other day, and he was like, why do 241 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: you not have a good relationship with them? I said, well, 242 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: let's talk about that, so and he was really interested, 243 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: like really wanted to hear. So I just went from 244 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 4: the beginning, not realizing he knows a lot of it. 245 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: He does know a lot of it, not realizing I 246 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 4: hadn't told him everything because this would have been years ago. 247 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: So there was a few things that he was like, whoa, 248 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 4: that happened, and that happened. I didn't realize that. So we're, 249 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 4: you know, kind of talking through it. But him being 250 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: the way that he is, you know, I was like, 251 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: so come to Tuesday and dinner and we do already 252 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: have plans. I could cancel the plans probably and we 253 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 4: could be there. But he was kind of like, well, 254 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: why would we do that, Like, why do we just 255 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: show up on Easter now, which we did, and all 256 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: the time, you know, we were kind of back and forth. 257 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: We would do friends stuff, we would not why do 258 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: we just show up? 259 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: Show up? 260 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: And you know, Nick was like, well, because it's family, 261 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: and I said, we don't. Actually we don't. If friends 262 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 4: asked me to do something on that holiday and they 263 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: asked me first, and I want to be there, and 264 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 4: like we'll be there now if they ask and I say, 265 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: we'll be there, We'll honor that and we'll be there. 266 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: So we were just kind of talking through that. So 267 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 4: it just really got me thinking, not even to whine 268 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: about like the whole thing, but it really got me thinking, like, a, 269 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: was it okay for me to go through all of 270 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 4: that with my son? Was it okay to tell him 271 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: every little detail essentially that has kind of happened with us? 272 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: Like is that fair to put that on him? Is 273 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: that fair for him to know all of those details? 274 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 4: And then essentially he's not making his own opinion of 275 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 4: his family and making his own choice to go see them, 276 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: you know, I kind of started thinking, well, man, I've 277 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: kind of put this onto him now, and he's like, well, 278 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 4: why would we go see them? 279 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: Because you know? 280 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: And so that that was one thing that just really 281 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: had me thinking a lot that night after I talked 282 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: to him, because I was like, is this fair to 283 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: my children? 284 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 6: Like? 285 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: Should I just show up to all the things because 286 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: they're family? 287 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: That's rhetorical because I don't know that answer. This is 288 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: literally something I think about probably every single day. 289 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: If your family lived here. 290 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: I mean, we don't talk to them, we don't FaceTime, 291 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: we don't. 292 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: I wonder if you would you feel like they're. 293 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: Here and we don't, right, Like, I can't imagine if they. 294 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: Weren't here we definitely would not talk. Yeah, and I doubt. 295 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: I just think you have such a really good discernment, 296 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: I really do. I feel like you really are such 297 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: a level headed thinker that if you think that's something 298 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: he needed to know. I think it depends on the 299 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: type of what you're like reporting the things that you're 300 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: telling him. If you're like, he's a drug addict? Who? 301 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 12: Right? 302 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And I don't know all 303 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: of the things, but like, I think it's the type 304 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: of information. For example, I think of the lady at 305 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: the airport, remember how she was like that guy. I 306 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: think it's how you say it, and it's the information, 307 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 3: like the type of information, right, I think, right, it 308 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: would be what I would age appropriately, right, have a 309 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: you know Russian that piece of it. 310 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,479 Speaker 4: Right, Like I wouldn't tell the girls all the details, 311 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: but I definitely I definitely told him all that. But 312 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: it wasn't in a yeah, it wasn't in like necessarily 313 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: a negative tone. It was more matter of fact and 314 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: this is what and a lot of it. And I 315 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: did finally kind of tell him this. You know, if 316 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: I'm being completely honest and I'm digging down deep, it's 317 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: not just these things that happened as adults. But I 318 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: also still have a lot of pent up resentment as 319 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: a child and being left by them as older brothers 320 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 4: and you know. And he was like, whoa you know? 321 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, I mean, I'm just being honest, like. 322 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: There is you have had conversations with him about this? 323 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure I talked about that when 324 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: we I mean Nick and I had so I had said, 325 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: neveral sit downs with his wife through the years, we 326 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 4: had several sit downs meet Nick, him and his wife, 327 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: and they never and it always was kind of I'm 328 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: the older brother, this is the way it's going to 329 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: go when everyone needs to fall in line. 330 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: That was kind of the overriding. 331 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: And that's just not me. What's the main issue? Is that? 332 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: Fair to ask her? 333 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: Y's okay, it's all about my mom. 334 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: It all stems from from my mother and then childhood stuff. 335 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: The resentment is that he got up with him, he 336 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: up and left and he got out. I get that, 337 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: Like I understand that, Like it wasn't a healthy home situation. 338 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: When I go to college, like I'm out, I'm not 339 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: looking back, I'm not even like checking on you kind 340 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: of thing. That's kind of where the childhood resentment comes in. 341 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 4: But as we got older, it was y'all need to 342 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: fall in line with the mother issues. And before we 343 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: found out that she was a drug addict, it was 344 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: we need to give her money. Well, no, we're not 345 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: giving her money. No, no, no, you're you're you know, 346 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: and so it was kind of those kinds of things. 347 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: And we were really good friends, like we'd become adults 348 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: and we lived with them for a while, we'd become 349 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: really good friends. 350 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: So it was a lot of that. 351 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: And then it was a lot of we all had 352 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 4: three kids the same age, and a lot of them 353 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: getting really close and kind of leaving the third child out, 354 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: which would have been Caden, which we also then talked 355 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: about that. 356 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: You know. 357 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: So it's a lot of stuff, and I feel fine 358 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: with where I'm at. I just now I'm kind of like, ma'am. Now, 359 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: I've got kids that are becoming adults soon, who are 360 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: getting older, and they don't really have relationships with those cousins. 361 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: Really, they do with their other cousins. 362 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: But your question is basically their family, But at what 363 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: point do you not go You're going just because they're family, 364 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: not because you wanting to go, and so how does 365 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: that It's like, does it affect you more to go 366 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: or does it affect you more to stay. I think 367 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: that's the answer that you should ask yourself whether it's 368 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: family or not, because Alan will always be like they're 369 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: family at the end of the day. It's like it's 370 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, but this person has hurt me. It's 371 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: it's your it's your this person or that like this 372 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: is this is your family, and I'm like but and 373 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: so that's always kind of like his motto I said, 374 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: but I think at some point, if the pain of 375 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: it being around that person is worse family or not, 376 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: you should have to endure that. 377 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that is why I stopped going for a 378 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: long time, because I didn't like who I became there. 379 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 10: Yeah. 380 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, because then I'd go to the family and I 381 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: would just sit there angry and in a corner by myself, 382 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is no fun for anyone, And 383 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: then they didn't like me even more because like, well 384 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: she's you know, like pissed off in the corner, you know. 385 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 4: So that is why I stopped. I think it doesn't 386 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: affect me as much anymore. So showing up every now 387 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: and then is fine. 388 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: Well, time, space, maturity. You've also done a lot of healing. 389 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: Do you feel like the kid part is still there 390 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: for you? Because I I think it is like he 391 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 3: didn't come back and left you guys, But I don't 392 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: want that to exist in your body anymore, Yeah, because 393 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: it feels like maybe misplaced. 394 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I've dealt with that a lot in therapy 395 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 4: and stuff, and it is definitely one of those and 396 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: it's like I'll feel like I'm like good, you know, 397 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 4: with it, and then it'll just pop up at those 398 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: random times. I haven't thought about that in years, probably 399 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 4: at this point. But when I was talking to Caiden 400 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 4: and then I started getting deep into it, and I 401 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 4: was like, you know what, it was a really honest 402 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: conversation with my son, and he was asking a lot 403 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: of questions, so I was like, you know, I'm just 404 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: going to tell him like honestly, you know, And we 405 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: even talked about how, you know, kids can grow up 406 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: and have different ideas of what their childhood was, you know, 407 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So I mean, yes, I think 408 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: I've kind of gotten over it and understanding. I understand 409 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: why he did. But at the same time, I looked 410 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: at Cayden and I said, this is why I preface 411 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: so much like your relationship with your sisters. I know 412 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: Ramsey is like way far behind you, but when you 413 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 4: get up and go call and check on her, a 414 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: call would mean a lot, whether we're crazy or not crazy. 415 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: You don't know. 416 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 4: We could be crazy at home when it's just her 417 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: and you're gone, you don't check on her, call and 418 00:18:59,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: check on her, you know. 419 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: So I am I learned from that well. 420 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: And hopefully that he will too. Right, you know, it's 421 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: like an honesty is right, it's honest. I almost think too, 422 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: it's like a I think like back to my big brother. 423 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: I think it's again. I can tell you if my 424 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: I don't think my brother ever called me until like 425 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: my middle like mid twenties, Like we didn't have a relationship, 426 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: you know. And I think it's the only reason we 427 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: have one now is because I'm the one calling. 428 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: Right. 429 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: He's never ever just called me to say hi, what 430 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: happens though to the glue? Because I'm the glue and 431 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: I'm tired, That's that's the thing. And we haven't talked 432 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: because I'm like, why am I the only one that 433 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: calls to say hello. 434 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: You get to a point where you're like don't want 435 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: to Yeah. 436 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, and now we're on like a two year hiatus. 437 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: So I talked to his wife more than anything, you know, 438 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: because we FaceTime just so I can just keep up 439 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: with my nieces and you know, nephew and stuff. But yeah, 440 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 3: when it comes to I'm like, it's as if you 441 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: don't want to put in the effort and energy. Why 442 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: am I I know? And it's not it's not an immaturity. 443 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: I don't I want anyone to miss hear what we're saying. 444 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: It's not about to me like, well I've done this 445 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: and you've done that. Like it's really just I can't. 446 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't like who I am. Yeah, I do not 447 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: like who I am. I can tell that there is 448 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: a full line of feelings that come from his family 449 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 3: history and I'm trying to put out fires in a 450 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: passive aggressive way or and I just don't like it. 451 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's when I realized, you know, 452 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: when you start really becoming someone you don't want to become. 453 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 4: But yep, anyway, well, and there's a lot too. I mean, 454 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 4: you were the youngest, and you were at home and 455 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 4: maybe there's no there. But I think about that, and 456 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 4: I'm just like I think about like Ramsey thinking of 457 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 4: being at home and her brother and sister living their lives, 458 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: and if they don't check in or if they don't 459 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: see them, how that could make the hell that could make. 460 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: It interesting though is and because again people can have 461 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: kind of the same situation, but I never for some reason. 462 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking about this because like, my brother went 463 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: away to college right when my parents divorce, so it 464 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: was just me. I'm in the turmoil. He's not being like, 465 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: how are you? You know what I mean, how are you? 466 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 3: But I didn't. I'm not saying you put this on 467 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: your brother, but I just didn't put that on him. 468 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: I put it on my dad, you know what I mean. 469 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: So my resentment just went to my dad. Yeah, not 470 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: to my brother. My brother was just all right. He 471 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: went off to college and he left me in the desk. 472 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: But it wasn't he left me. He had to leave, right, 473 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he was going to 474 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: do a thing. But I wonder if it's easier for 475 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 3: you to give it to brother, because brother would be 476 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: easier than giving it to your mom in that point. 477 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: No, I definitely. 478 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 4: It's mostly to my mom, And it wasn't until later 479 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: in therapy where I kind of came to the realization 480 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: that I had a little bit of that resentment and 481 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 4: it was coming out in our adult issues. 482 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: Sure, so I don't well. 483 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: And I'll say to say this too, I always felt 484 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: bad for my brother growing up because he always got 485 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: the brunt of my dad's aggression. So that's where I 486 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: never so I always kind of like put him in 487 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: a bubble rap. He could do no wrong, right. 488 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: And in my mind when I was little, you know, 489 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: she was obsessed with the boys. Nothing ever happened. Now 490 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: the middle one is the angel to her. They're the 491 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: same person. I love him, but they're the same person. 492 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 4: I though in my mind being young, he went off. 493 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: They treated him like an angel, he was gone. But 494 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: then I found out later as an adult that that 495 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 4: was not the case, that he was also not treated 496 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: very well and so he So I understand it, and 497 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: I see why. But to me at the same time, 498 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, we could have connected over the fact younger 499 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: and earlier, and the fact that we were both being 500 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: treated that way, you know, But I also can't put 501 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 4: that on him. 502 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: I really family I know. 503 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, that was a lot family. 504 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: Family. It's we could do, we could do an I know. 505 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 4: I feel like, y'all, yeah, sorry, we go about families 506 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: a lot. 507 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 12: No. 508 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 3: I just think we forget that we're the Sandwich generation. 509 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: They call us the Sandwich generation. We're healing what was 510 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 3: before us and trying to make sure that the after 511 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: us is And that is the conversation that I just 512 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: have with my mom. It's like things like, we're this 513 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: generation where we're the age that we're at, are uncovering 514 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: and discovering this and there's almost peace and talking about it. 515 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 3: I said, I actually got more. I have more empathy 516 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: for you, knowing the general that I'm not alone in 517 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: the generations of generations. 518 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: Sure, you know what I mean. 519 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: So it's like it's not just me, it's the generations, 520 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: and like I can actually just go okay, right right, 521 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: I don't love it, but okay, I feel right it 522 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: deft really feels less heavy, yeah, because I'm like, oh, 523 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people okay, and so now you're going 524 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: to get flooded and then it'll be like okay, yeah, yep, 525 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: you know, and hopefully that maybe we'll take a little 526 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: yeah tinge off. 527 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 10: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about sorority life, the good, 528 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 10: the bad, and the sisterhood with your hosts me Gia Judice. 529 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 12: Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Rush, the recruitment, the ritual. 530 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 12: The reality of Greek life has been a mystery for 531 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 12: those outside the sorority circles until now. 532 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Is it really a supportive sisterhood that's simply misunderstood, or 533 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: is there something more scandalous happening on campuses across the country. 534 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: In this podcast, we pledge to feel back the layers 535 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: and spell out the truth, one Greek letter at a time. 536 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 10: Pledges and actives, rush chairs, and ritual keepers. Some call 537 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 10: it the best time of their life, while others say 538 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 10: it's a nightmare. 539 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 12: From a perfect rush to recruitment scandals. What is really 540 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 12: going on behind the doors of those sorority houses from 541 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 12: Alpha to Omega. 542 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: We're taking you inside sorority row, including the chapter room, 543 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: as we explore the fellowship in the front of mees. 544 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: Let's get dirty. 545 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: Listen to Dirty Rush on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 546 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. 547 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 6: Can't stop talking about the traders. 548 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: You've come to the right round table. 549 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 8: Relive the betrayal all over again with your favorite Faithfuls 550 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 8: like Me, Tama, Judge. 551 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: Dolores Catana and Wells Adams. 552 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 6: In the Ultimate Rewatch podcast, by Order of the Faithful, we. 553 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: Will take you inside the Castle starting from season one. 554 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: For Rewatch That's to die For. 555 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 6: Listen to by Order the Faithfuls on America's number one 556 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 6: podcast network, iHeart. Follow by Order of the Faithfuls and 557 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 6: start listening on the free iHeartRadio app Today. 558 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: Millie Bobby Brown wanted to be a young mom. Head 559 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: of marriage to Jake, she announced that they had welcomed 560 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: their first child via adoption this week. While fans might 561 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: be surprised at the twenty one year old Stranger Things 562 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: star was so quick to grow her family following her 563 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: marriage in May twenty twenty four, a source tells people 564 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: that they've always been Brown's plan. She's so young, but 565 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: so focused, and she has the biggest heart. There's no 566 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 3: doubt that she's a great mom. Pretty Much everything she 567 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: sets her mind to, she crushes. They continued, and they 568 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: have really worked on creating this special family life in Georgia. 569 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: This summer, we welcomed our sweet baby girl through adoption. 570 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 3: We are beyond excited to embark on this beautiful next 571 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: chapter of parenthood, both peace and privacy. And then they 572 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: were three, so she's twenty one. So some thoughts stars 573 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: having kids as young isn't very common anymore. Do you 574 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: guys think them someone should live more life before becoming 575 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: a parent. 576 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: I had my first child at twenty five, which seemed 577 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 4: relatively young. Then I and I understand that we're in 578 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 4: different places, so this doesn't take away from I loved 579 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 4: having kids young. I absolutely loved it. I love being 580 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 4: kind of a younger mom with older kids, even though 581 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: it's hard because a lot of my friends don't have 582 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: the same age. 583 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: I absolutely love it. 584 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 4: I love being a little bit younger when I'm enjoying 585 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 4: all the high school stuff and you know, and stuff 586 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 4: like that. But I think it just completely depends on 587 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: the person and the personality. And I wanted kids young. 588 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: I didn't care to have all that extra time before. 589 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: But I completely understand so many people that do. 590 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: I just am glad I didn't have kids the person 591 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: I was with twenty one, Well that's the thing. 592 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that. 593 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 3: But I do think, like to Millie, like she's been 594 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 3: in the entertainment space for so long that she definitely 595 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: grew up fast. So I think she's probably wiser than 596 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: I was at twenty one and more mature. But yeah, same, 597 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: I mean at twenty one, I wouldn't have wanted to 598 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 3: be with the person that I went to Vegas with, so, 599 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: you know, but I you know, I do what works 600 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: for you, and if that's it's I think it's a 601 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: beautiful thing. I I again, I would probably even just 602 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: getting married young. I know a lot of kids are 603 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: getting married now, super young, twenty twenty one, and I'm 604 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: just like, I would never want my kids not to 605 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: marry the love of their life. But I will try 606 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: to speak, you know, waiting till you grow and mature 607 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: a little bit more personally, I will do I actually 608 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 3: was going to ask you that the other day because 609 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: I know that we're both on another marriage and I 610 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: don't know what I would do. I have friends who 611 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: have these boyfriend girlfriends that are like, I'm pretty sure 612 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: that they're going to ask to be married, and they're 613 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 3: like twenty right now. I'm like, wow, I just don't 614 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 3: I don't know how to I wouldn't know how to 615 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: parent that. Yeah, I mean, so much life after twenty Yeah, me, 616 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: that's wild. But I grew up in a you know, 617 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: in our the town that I was at, Like it's 618 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: prom engagement babies. I mean most every all of my friends. 619 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 3: I'm the oldest mom for sure by thirty three. When 620 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: I didn't have a baby, they were like, I don't 621 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: know that you can have children, Like it's a wild 622 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: So right, it's crazy, But I love that for her 623 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: if that's what she wants. Babies will grow you too. Oh, absolutely, 624 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: that's exciting. Maren Morris says fan grab my ass at 625 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: meet and greet, don't override someone's personal space. Speaking of off, 626 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: she was lugily groped during a recent meet and greet 627 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: with her fans. Hey y'all, tonight's show was fun, but 628 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: someone grabbed my ass during the meet and greet before 629 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: the show, she wrote on her Instagram, without identifying the individual. 630 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to continue them because one person shouldn't ruin 631 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: it for everyone. Please know I'm there to connect, share, hug, 632 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: all the things, but please don't override someone's personal space. 633 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: Love you. I think it's one of those things where, yeah, 634 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: people can be inappropriate in those meet and greets. I've 635 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: I've I've had the many drunken country fans in a 636 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: meet and greet that haven't been the most appropriate. Uh 637 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: you know obviously the ones really can you kiss me? 638 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: And like that, I'm like, no, no, thank you. We've had. 639 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I don't meet and greet, but Preston does. 640 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: And there's been a lot of inappropriate mm hmm, like 641 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: a lot of inappropriate like a woman at one point 642 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: grabbing trying to grab his fronte. I know, like it 643 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: just I think there's just so much the level of 644 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: intoxication of alcohol. That's the thing. It's like, I don't 645 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: mind the hugs from my One Treehill convention people. They're 646 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: amazing and they're so sweet and there is like love 647 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: and heart. But when a drunk person is trying to 648 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: hug me at a meet and greet and they're hanging 649 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: on me and getting their sweaty armpits all over me, 650 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: that's where I'm like, I don't want this hug. This 651 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: doesn't feel nice. A sweet, loving One Tree Healer hug away. 652 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 4: I actually love to hug your stated Yeah yeah, well, 653 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: and that's hard because it's like you're expected to just 654 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 4: in a way you're inspected. Yeah, and like even if 655 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 4: you feel uncomfortable, it's almost like you can't. You don't 656 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: feel like you can say anything, and that's an unfortunate situation. 657 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: And getting grabbed in the butt, like come on, you know, 658 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 4: like is that really appropriate? Like and I understand it's 659 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: probably somebody that was drunk, but at the same time, like, 660 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: is that. 661 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: You're just gonna grab some a stranger's they're. 662 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: So in person and you know, a wife or a 663 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: husband or a mom or a dad. It's like, what 664 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: are you doing? Yeah, And just like that EPs hints 665 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: at a possible Carrie Bradshaw return after in three. I 666 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: feel like they're playing with their heartstrings a little bit here, 667 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: Sarah Jessica Parker. She was saying in an interview that 668 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: her character is alive, meaning a return could happen. But 669 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: I choose to believe this because I'm having a really 670 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: emotional time. 671 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 4: Because that is for sure done right and just like 672 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: that and just like that is for sure done, But 673 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 4: they're saying possibly something with Carrie. 674 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: I've also read some things that said that the reason 675 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: just like that is done is because there was a 676 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: little bit of a creative direction conflict and so maybe 677 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: that portion of it is just done. Which I did 678 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: you like the series finale? Okay? So I mean I 679 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: did at first. I wanted like him to come back 680 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 3: or something, But I also get why she. I loved 681 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: her last statement. I did too. She's on her own, 682 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: She's not alone. Yeah, I mean, like I love that. 683 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: I also just like where everybody gets left happy. I 684 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: think sometimes we leave like we don't get to wrap 685 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: much up with a bo anymore, and so just kind 686 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: of felt kind of them. I mean, we've spent twenty 687 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: seven years with these characters, like I want them to 688 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 3: be left happy. Everybody was smiling, and we didn't have 689 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: any definite direction where anyone was going, and that felt 690 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: okay too, but it also left it open for something. Sure. 691 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 692 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: Biggest headline we have though, is Taylor and Travis are engaged. 693 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: I am over the zoon wedding will be in insane, insane, 694 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: in beautiful. I can't even imagine. It's like the Royal 695 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: princess getting married, you know what I'm saying though, Like 696 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: it's like I wonder, will she watched us just shock 697 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: us all and just go get married and we don't 698 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: even know that would actually be. 699 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: I was so funny. Yeah, I think y'all think y'all 700 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: get to be a part of this. 701 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 3: I love a person's happy ending. Yeah, I've been together 702 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: a couple of years. Yeah, it's definitely been a couple 703 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: of years at this point. I'm excited it's overdue. 704 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: I liked their the when she was on his podcast. Yeah, 705 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 4: and I'm not Yeah, it was all of that was 706 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: very cute. I like the way it was done and 707 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 4: the things that she said. 708 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: I enjoyed. Are you a Taylor Swift fan? 709 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 12: Now? 710 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: I don't know that I would say. I mean, I 711 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 4: can appreciate her. I can appreciate her. 712 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: That's her closet, Taylor Swifty. 713 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: I actually really like. 714 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 4: I definitely appreciate her as a business woman, hands down, 715 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 4: without a doubt. Never you know, I might not necessarily 716 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: listen to all the music, but but. 717 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: I really like how they did that podcast with her 718 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: on there. 719 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was great. It was well done, 720 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: but it was really good. I hey there, I'm a 721 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: mom of three, and lately I've been feeling like I'm 722 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: constantly stuck in the role of referee. My kids age four, 723 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 3: nine and thirteen. Bick er NonStop and it's draining the 724 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 3: joy out of our family time. I'd love to know 725 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 3: how you encourage sibling connection and cut down on the 726 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: constant fighting. Do your kids actually get along and if not, 727 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: how do you deal with it without losing your mind? 728 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: I feel like I could have written this question. It 729 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: has been NonStop at our house. Oh really fighting big 730 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: east yep. I feel like I got really lucky. Jolie 731 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: and Jason hardly fight. I mean, they'll get on each 732 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: other in the summer at the very end of like 733 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 3: a long break, but they're I mean, like a long 734 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: time like together, but they really do. They play legos 735 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: at night together. Like I feel pretty lucky. We're trying. 736 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: I did. 737 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: I had a pretty obvious realization the other day. Legend's 738 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 3: just really missing data. Summer is just really hard, and 739 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: he acts out so much when he misses data. He 740 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 3: just does it is like it is it is just 741 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 3: zero to one thousand. He loses his emotions. So I 742 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: actually just this morning got on the treadmill and I 743 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 3: started listening. I'd already read Raising Emotionally Well Boys by 744 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 3: David Thomas, who I think just hung the Moon. He 745 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 3: is freaking incredible. But I started listening to it again 746 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 3: today because I think what I've noticed most about when 747 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: they bicker is when they're not each getting what they 748 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: need from a parent, So mind fight more and hopefully 749 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 3: they shed some light. Like almost always one on one 750 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 3: time with them changes their bickering. It's like their tanks 751 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 3: aren't full so they can't get along. 752 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's what I was going to say. I mean, 753 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 4: my kids are the same age differences as this woman's 754 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 4: obviously older, but the same gaps and age and mine 755 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 4: truly have never really fought. Having said that, and I 756 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 4: was thinking through this as you were talking, they are 757 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 4: very almost separate a lot. Oh, and they always kind 758 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: of have been because of their sports. You know, when 759 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 4: Ramsey was little, she would stay with someone while we 760 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: went to football or and Emmy was, you know, at cheer. 761 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 4: There's a lot of kind of separation so that when 762 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 4: they do kind of come together, they're coming together now 763 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 4: more and as friends like Kayden and Emmy are now 764 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 4: like friends and it's fun. You know, it's a middle 765 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 4: almost high schooler and a high schooler and they're you know, 766 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: and Ramsey's starting to grow up and not being kind 767 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 4: of the annoying little sister anymore now, like she's kind 768 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 4: of slowly getting into the mix. 769 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: But I do think that I had a lot to 770 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: do with it. For us. 771 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 4: You don't really have the luxury of getting that one 772 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 4: on one time a lot, I'm sure, yeah, because you 773 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 4: kind of have because you kind of always have all 774 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 4: three of them, and right or wrong or just just different. 775 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 4: I do think that's why mine have not bickered as much, 776 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 4: because it's not a constant. And I'm sure yours are 777 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 4: together all the time, so that isn't the same for her, 778 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 4: But I do believe for us it has been that 779 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 4: they it's just we're kind of go, go go, but 780 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 4: different places. 781 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 3: A lot of it. Well, we even do school together 782 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: three days a week, sure. 783 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 4: And that's a lot to think about being with anyone 784 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 4: all the time like that, you know, So if you 785 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 4: think about that, that's where the bickering can easily come in. 786 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 4: And then as they get older and they spend more 787 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 4: time in their rooms and doing their separate things, and 788 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 4: that kind of changes the dynamic too. But I just 789 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 4: think that that one on one time can really change. 790 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: And listen, it's not like my kids are perfect like 791 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 3: this morning, you know, obviously Julie was giving Jason luck apparently, 792 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 3: and he's like, well, you give me that look, and 793 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 3: he's just like, I'm not giving you a luck, you know. 794 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 3: And I'm like, say one nice thing about each other, 795 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 3: and that's what I make them do, like every single time. 796 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, and they always say the same thing, You're 797 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 3: funny and then like she has good hair? Yeah, like okay, 798 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, I'm like, but that's usually how it 799 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: snaps them out of it, right, right, But like the 800 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 3: they're kids. I mean, god, my brother was we thought 801 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: all the time sane growing up. Same, I mean we 802 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: I don't think we became friends until after his college, 803 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, there's hope. 804 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: How far apart were y'all three? Oh wow? 805 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think I do think, Like I 806 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: can notice right now specifically it is legend needing it 807 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: and so he's instigating. He just needs attention, right, He 808 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 3: doesn't care if it's good or bad. Mm identify one 809 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 3: on one. Yeah, Well, ladies, until next week, Bye bye