WEBVTT - Alarmed State 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.760 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to bokay f Daily with 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:19.799 me your girl, Danielle Moody recording from the bunker. Folks, 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:27.960 it is amazing that we are still reeling, still reeling 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:33.400 from the first bombshell hearing for the one six House Commission. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.360 I have to tell you that this country is so 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:42.760 fucking wild. Like I forgive me because I'm stalling in 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.000 my brain right now, just trying to think about what 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.400 part I want to start with first. But here's what 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.519 I will say. I'll start off with this Fox News 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.360 not playing the insurrection and not only not playing it 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.760 with sound, but doing their whole you know, livetime maneuvering 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.240 and editing to try and shelter their audiences from reality, right, 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.600 and then having the audacity of that piece of shit 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.840 Tucker Carlson going on and saying, Oh, this is just 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.000 all propaganda. You're the only network. And I know that 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.160 you guys think that it's like a badge of honor 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.040 to be the only network that isn't covering reality because 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.440 you're so terrified right of what it is that your 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.160 viewers are going to think that you have to think 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.800 for them, that you have to shield them because they 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.000 are a bunch of radicalized children, and God knows what 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.399 they will do or what they will say when you 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.680 start to create a monster, and then eventually that monster 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.120 will turn on you. It is only a matter of time. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.680 But now I just want to go to the contents 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.080 of what it is that we saw. First of all, 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.960 to see these video images at these at these different endles, 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.480 to see the brutality, to see the force with which 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:58.920 this white domestic terrorist mob took and descended upon our 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.200 capital building, and watching the faces of these capital police 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:10.120 officers is particularly the one that gave her testimony. The 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.000 Republican Party is supposed to be the party that believes 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.959 in blue lives, that believes in the military, But I 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:21.640 realize that everything about them is as fraudulent as Fox News. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.440 Everything is just about like they think that patriotism is 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.919 going to Old Navy the day before the fourth of 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.680 July and getting themselves donned in had to tow American 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.640 flag gear. That's to the extent of their understanding of 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.880 patriotism and the Republican Party. They don't understand at all 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.920 the Constitution, the context of it democracy, and what democracy 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.240 is actually supposed to look like, which is that Hey, 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:51.320 you vote, your candidate doesn't win, you say, oh that sucks. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.720 You go back, you figure out what it is that 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.800 you need to do to engage the American public. You 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.200 do that, and then you get another bite at the apple. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.919 You don't do what Donald Trump did, which would say, nah, 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.399 fuck it, I'm just not going to leave, spread an 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:10.200 entire lie, put up over sixty court cases that get 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.560 laughed out of court, and then when that doesn't work, 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.600 create your own militia and then have them descend upon 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.000 the Capitol Building in search of your vice president, who 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.080 you believe is treasonist because he refuses to go along 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.680 with the big lie, as does your own fucking daughter, 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.160 the Attorney General, and the entire circle of people around 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:35.160 you who said you lost right. I just don't understand 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.320 like the character of these people, and they just they 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.240 don't have any And I guess that's what gets me 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.040 to this place is that we continue to refer to 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.800 Republicans as if they are a legitimate political party, as 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.920 if all that they have is a difference in ideology. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:56.200 This is not about a difference in ideology between two groups. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.800 This is about one that refuses to deal with reality 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:05.800 and instead creates their own is terrified of people of color, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:11.480 and the fear extends so greatly to the shifting demographic 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.640 that you foresee that all you need to do is 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:20.440 descend upon these communities with abject violence, have the courts 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.840 in your pocket, and then all is going to go. Well. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.000 I'm looking around this place and I'm saying, America is 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.680 a fucking tinderbox, and we are about one step away 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:36.280 from just a full out blown civil war. And you know, 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:41.440 I don't think that these people, if in fact, they 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:47.560 will ever be reflected, reflection, ever reflect excuse me over 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.200 what it is that they have sided with, if any 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:55.279 of them will ever have an epiphany, Like I didn't 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.599 know that you could get brainwashed into a cult. And 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.880 I don't even want to say that they're brainwashed, because Frank, 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:05.320 that doesn't allow them to hold responsibility for the decisions 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.520 that they're making. You know, I did TV over the weekend, 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:14.680 and you know, Katie Fang on MSNBC, she said, you know, 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.159 do you think that Liz Cheney, who voted with Donald 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.760 Trump ninety percent of the time, is going to be 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:27.000 remembered in history as this great person of courage? And 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.359 I said, here's The thing that pisces me off is 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:35.839 that Liz Cheney actually agrees with every single abysmal, racist, misogynistic, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.760 you know, anti American policy that Donald Trump put forth. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.839 The only thing that she didn't agree with was that 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.080 our election was stolen, and for that she was turned 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.760 into an incredible villain. This bitch is a Cheney, do 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.360 you know what I'm saying. So it's like, how is 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.840 history going to remember her the way that we remember 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.720 everyone in history, regardless of how terrible they were, how 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.520 horrible their parents were, all of their connections to the 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.159 demise of our democracy into limiting the voice of the people. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.360 She'll be remembered as a hero if, in fact, by 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:14.159 then we have history books that tell the truth at all. So, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.479 you know, I want to applaud on one hand, you know, 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.440 Liz Cheney for what grasping reality, But at the same time, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:25.279 I'm like, Liz Chaney was terrible for America, right, Like, 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.400 she has not done good for this country outside of 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:35.240 this one thing. But our attention spans are short and 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.279 our memories even shorter, which is why you know, I 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:44.200 hope that the one six House Commission goes out with 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.920 the same energy that they came in with meaning that 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:51.360 I hope that the closing it's in primetime at seven pm. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.480 You know, today's edition is going to be at ten 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.760 in the morning where people work. So I'm just like, again, 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.200 do this thing right, Have it, you know, not every night, 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.479 but have it weekly seven pm for the next you know, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.960 six weeks or however many weeks that it's supposed to be. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.600 But do it in primetime, and do it when people 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.280 are sitting down with their families at home and everyone 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.480 can gather around and then pummel it all of the 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.720 days in between on social media, on radio, on every 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.720 single television show, on every single network. It's the most 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.920 important thing that people should be watching right now, right. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.600 And so where it leads us, folks, I still don't know. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.760 Our friend Glenn Kirshner is coming up next and he's 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.360 going to walk us through everything that we saw why 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.560 it is important in what he believes that the Department 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:49.240 of Justice will be doing. But I don't know. I 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:54.000 will say that it was jaw dropping, right, jaw dropping. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.640 The fact that we know that the oath Keepers and 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.640 the Proud Boys met ahead of time, the fact that 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.880 they weren't even in attendance at the President's speech at 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.800 that time because they were getting ready to lay out 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.240 their plan to take over the Capitol Building. Right, Donald 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.080 Trump absent for a hundred and eighty seven minutes and 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.400 Vice President Pence is acting as president calling on the 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.960 National Guard. What is Donald Trump doing for one hundred 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.680 and eighty seven minutes? Well, I said on Amin Mohadean 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.559 show that Donald Trump wasn't in charge of the White 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.280 House or America for that matter, in that one hundred 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.600 and eighty seven minutes, because he was leading the insurrection 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.640 from inside of the White House. Right, people like, what 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.679 was Donald Trump doing? He was in coordination. I am 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.840 one hundred percent sure with the Oathkeepers and the Proud Boys, 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.320 you know, the group that he told to stand back 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.840 and stand by and who after saying such. What we 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:53.520 learned from the first hearing is that membership within those 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:58.440 organizations tripled after Donald Trump called them into arms and 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:03.120 into action. So you know, when we say, oh, well, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.200 we have to prove in the court of law this 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.720 that and the other thing, I mean, this country throws 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.920 innocent black and brown people in jail all the fucking 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.360 time for life sentences for shit that they did not do. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.160 So you are telling me that again once again, for 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.840 a wealthy white man who is powerful, the burden of 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:26.880 proof is outside of our stratosphere. Donald Trump told these 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.160 people after his entire inner circle told him that he 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:35.520 lost the election well before January sixth, decided that he 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:40.079 was going to continue spreading this lie. He knew, he knew, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.200 and how do you tell him? Because his Attorney general 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.800 told him, his polster told him, his own family members 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.840 told him that he lost. He just refused not to 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:57.520 believe it right, but to accept it. And those, to me, 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.400 are two different fucking things. Donald Trump didn't choose to 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:05.160 believe it because he believed an alternative thing. No, he 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:09.319 refused to accept those results. And I think that that's 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:16.600 the language that needs to have a shift here. I 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.000 just am tired of living in this alarmed state where 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.359 I'm wondering whether or not everyone is just in cahoots 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.320 and the only people who aren't right are those of 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.760 us that are black and brown, low income, or from 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.680 other marginalized groups. We're the ones that are not in 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.840 on the joke. Because I'm like, is the Department of 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:40.120 Justice just waiting for this documentary series to be finished? 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.200 And then they're going to rain down with indictments. Because 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.560 I gotta tell you, the twenty million Americans, and that's 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.559 not even the real number. That's just the Nielsen number 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:52.000 of like one screen in one home. You're not talking 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.359 about the people that were watching on streaming. I guarantee 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.560 you that that number of people that viewed the first 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.680 day of the hearing is much higher. They saw all 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.200 of the evidence, all of these things unfold, and you're 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.160 going to tell me that everyone is just going to 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.319 accept the fact the Department of Justice isn't going to 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:15.040 do anything with the actual architect. Donald Trump, I think 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:19.360 that you're setting up more dangerous precedent than investigating and 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:25.040 indicting a former president. So we will see. Coming up next, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:29.599 my conversation with our friend Glenn Kirshner about the first 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:37.440 first installment of this very long summertime series Blockbuster Hit Insurrection. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:42.000 Who Done It? Hey, I'm David. Plots of Slights Political Gabfest. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.560 As another election season accelerates, it can be tricky to 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.600 sort through all the noise and the news. 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The first 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:38.120 public hearing episode one of America's reminder of the insurrection. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.600 Give us everything about what it is you saw picked 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:48.280 up and is this just infotainment or is it going 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:53.160 to turn into something of substance like charges if Daniel. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:57.640 Last night was a phenomenal opening statement that the jury 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.320 heard of. The jury, of course, is the people. To 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.040 the extent we the people tuned in, and I think 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:08.400 a lot of folks did. It was a remarkable opening 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.480 statement setting out the evidence that the J six Committee 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:17.480 has amassed, showing that Donald Trump was at the center 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:22.880 of this conspiracy. That's what Representative Thompson said, That's what 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:27.479 Representative Cheney said. They said it was a sprawling, multiple 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:35.800 step conspiracy to deny the voters of America. And what 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:40.400 I was most surprised by was that the evidence we 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:44.800 saw last night, through the video clips of witnesses, they 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:50.400 were almost exclusively Republicans. They're going to prove this case 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.960 in large part with the voices and the testimony and 0:14:55.080 --> 0:15:01.200 the evidence provided by Republicans. That help helps draw the 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:05.160 sting out of the criticism that will come that this 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.280 is just partisan politics. You know who the first witness 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.680 we saw a clip of what Bill Barr. I didn't 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.720 expect that. Bill Barr. They put him up there, and 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.480 I will go with the unredacted version, even though I 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:24.400 don't ordinarily cuss on TV or on podcast. He said, 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:29.640 I told the President his claims of election fraud were bullshit, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.760 and I told him over and over again. The reason 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.400 it was so important that they start with that was one, 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:41.840 that's incriminating evidence from his own attorney general. And two, 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:48.680 it provides direct evidence of the only minimally open question 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.400 we have. It's really alcohol. It a foe open question. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.160 Did Donald Trump do all this with corrupt intent, with 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.840 a guilty state of mind, with criminal men's raeth, Yes 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.200 he did. And Bill Barr, right at the beginning of 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:07.600 the hearings told you he did. And then they continued 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:12.840 to play clips but incriminating clips by Jason Miller and 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:17.280 Alex Cannon who knews who Alex Cannon was a Republican 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.360 poster who walked in and pull Trump your loss and 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:26.640 Mark Short and you know all of these Republicans who 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.600 are proving the case against Donald Trump and Ivanka of 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.040 all people. They played a clip of Ivanka saying, I'm 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:39.080 going to paraphrase here, I believed Bill Barr. I did 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:44.680 not believe my father. No, that was the only clip 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.360 they played of her. They were asked. They were asking 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.560 her and videotaped testimony. You know, what did you make 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.640 of Bill Barr, you know, contradicting your father and saying 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.560 the election was not stolen, was not fraudulent. And she said, yeah, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.040 I took to her what Bill Barr said. In other words, 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.000 I didn't believe. And of course Trump has now truth social, 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.800 not tweeted, but truth social. I call it sending out 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:11.480 a lie, not a tweet. But when you do it, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.760 when Trump doesn't, you lie something out on truth social. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.639 And he threw Ivanka under the bus. Ivanka Trump had 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.040 checked out, she didn't know, blah blah, blah blah. She's 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.240 just trying to be nice to Bill Bar. I mean, 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.800 she's just trying to be nice to Bill Barr. Bill 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.600 Barr is not her dad, right, Bill Barr is the 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.320 Attorney General of the United States at that time, And 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.560 what she is saying, I'm not part of this conspiracy. 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.040 I'm not part of this big lie. I'm not like 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.320 my brothers who have continued to be on social media 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.439 upholding my father's lie. And the other thing that Liz 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:55.280 Chane Liz Cheney told us was that not only Scott Perry. Now, 0:17:55.320 --> 0:18:01.360 remember Scott Perry was pushing this true reasonist lawyer Jeffrey 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.480 Clark from the Department of Justice on Donald Trump, saying, Hey, 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.399 make this guy your attorney general because he'll weaponize the 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.600 Department of Justice and he'll lie and say the election 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.080 was stolen. Take him, take him, take him. So Trump 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:18.520 wanted Jeffrey Clark. Yeah, and then what did we learn 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:23.400 while Scott Perry begged for a presidential pardon? And it 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:28.560 wasn't only Scott Perry. Liz Cheney told us other Republican 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:33.800 members of Congress sought presidential pardons for their role in 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.960 the insurrection. And pocket pardons are about to make a 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.440 comeback and hit the news in a very big way, 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.840 I predict. And here's the other thing we heard about pardons. 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:49.840 They played a clip of Jared Kushner, who, if you 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.680 can't imagine a scenario that would make him even more 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:59.680 distasteful to you that clip did it? And here's the 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:05.000 clip they played. They said, the Chief of the White 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:09.480 House Counsel, Pat zipp Alone, threatened to resign because Donald 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.280 Trump was trying to corruptly overturn the elections results. That's 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.879 a big deal. When the White House Council threatens to 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:20.240 resign because the president is trying to kill the democracy. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.680 And who did he report this to trying to make 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.439 his way to the president, Jared Kushner. And you know 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.960 what the one clip they played of Jared Kushner's testimony 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:32.199 was he said, yeah, yeah, pat zipp Alone, you know, 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.920 saying he's gonna resign. I was busy working on getting 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:39.920 as many pardons out as I could before Trump, before 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:42.240 the end of Trump's turn. So I just took Pat 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:47.200 zipp Alone as whining about stuff. So here's the good 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:51.640 news day, I'm out done. Here's the good news. Last night, 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:56.399 Jared Kushner moved closer in my estimation to becoming a 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.399 charge defendant in the conspiracy to commit offenses against the 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.119 United State. It's based on that clip alone. We're not 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.480 there yet, but we're getting there. And so I think 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:09.600 pocket pardons are gonna make a comeback in a big 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.080 way very soon. And I say that because of another 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.120 important data point, which was when Kelly Ann Conway wrote 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.359 a book. I don't know if it's alternative facts or not, 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.439 but in her book she said at the end of 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.520 the turner, in her very low selling book go On, 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.200 at the end of Trump's turn he turned, he ambles 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.919 up to her and says, this is her her word, Hey, honey, 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.400 you want a pardon, And she's like, I don't think 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.639 I did anything wrong. Just take one. Everybody's going to 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:42.000 need one, right Like it's a party favor. It's it's 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.560 it is. It's a parting gift. You know, you hit 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.240 and take your box of rice Seroni and thanks for playing. 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:53.000 So but here's the thing, Danielle, if he unsolicited offered 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.639 Kelly an a blanket pardon, do you really think he 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.119 didn't give everybody else pardons? Those people who were closer 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:03.240 to him is family members, his criminal associates. So pocket pardons, 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.320 which I've been yelling and screaming about for more than 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.600 a year, are going to make a comeback in a 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.520 big way. But last night, Danielle, it was a pitch 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:16.560 perfect opening statement. And let me hasten to add I 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:21.000 you know Benny Thompson, who opened the proceedings and who 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:29.600 has this brilliant, understated, earnest presentation of information to us. 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:33.119 I could listen to him talk all day. And then 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:38.960 Liz Cheney, who has this direct in your face, unflinching. 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:43.160 These are the crimes Donald Trump committed. Let's not lose 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:47.280 sight of the fact that the people fighting their asses 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:51.480 off to save our democracy. An African American man chairman 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.560 of the J six Committee, a white woman vice chair 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.399 of the J six Committee, and they are fighting against 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:05.320 who Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Flynn, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:10.760 Jeffrey Clark, John Eastman, John Jr. Moe Brooks, Jim Jordan, 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:21.880 Kevin McCarthy, Ted Cruz, Josh Hollywood, A whole bunch of corrupt, egomaniacal, 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:30.720 power hungry, grubbing white men. Now that just is what 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:36.320 it is. But there's something very important about those two 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.960 people who are fighting their asses off for us, and 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:44.080 that batch of men who are trying to destroy our 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:50.360 democracy and propping up a criminal former president in the process. Glenn, 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:56.320 I mean, this is one of the most earth shattering 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:02.200 things that has happened in this country. This presentation lays 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.960 out everything that we've been talking about for well over 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.800 a year, everything that we have known. The question that 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:14.520 I have is is And I can't stand to say 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:20.720 this is it enough? Is this just speaking to the 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:25.720 choir who has been disgusted by what they have seen, 0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:30.080 who has been disgusted by what we know and continue 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:34.400 to see the bar be raised higher and higher, the 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:39.520 threshold get larger and larger for proof that there was 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:45.560 willful intent to overturn the government. It's more than enough. 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.400 It's more than enough. And Danielle and I'm with you. 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.320 I did a piece I think it went up yesterday 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:56.160 or the day before on MSNBC Daly, and it talked about, 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:59.520 you know how it seems like the investigation is turned 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.640 on its head, at least as compared to the way 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:09.520 federal prosecutors normally investigate, you know, enormous criminal conspiracies. DJ 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.439 wants to go first, and then they want Congress to 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:16.080 go second, because DJ needs to get a hold of 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.880 these witnesses, put them in the grand jury, lock in 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:23.600 their testimony so they can be used effectively in future prosecutions, 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:25.760 and then they give them over to Congress if at 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:32.359 all to do congresses legislative investigation. So the premise of 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:38.480 my piece is is there a method to this investigative madness? 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.600 And I try to answer that in as deep a 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:45.879 way as I can with the word restrictions. But I 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.879 went on several thousand words and got cut down. But 0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:51.440 that's okay. I love the editors, I really do, because 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:56.000 they polish up my work something fierce. There is a 0:24:56.080 --> 0:25:00.320 method to this investigative madness. The show we saw last 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.719 night and that we will see for six weeks running 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:08.000 is so important on the transparency front for the American 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:13.440 people to see with their own eyes before criminal indictments 0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.120 are handed down and we're now watching trials. The reason 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.600 I say that is because had the Department of Justice 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:23.239 gone first with these thousand plus witnesses, put them all 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.639 in the grand jury. First of all, I know my 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.200 brother and sister federal prosecutors, they couldn't have done it 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.359 as quickly as J six Committee did it. I am 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.840 confident of that. So they would still be trying to 0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:37.400 grand jury witnesses. Every single witness who testified the grant 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.000 before the grand jury that would have been secret by 0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:44.440 law forever unless than until they testified at a trial, 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.159 which could be three years down the road, and the 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:52.560 American people would know nothing about what those thousand witnesses 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:56.280 saw or knew, or did or tried to stop Trump 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.000 from doing, because it would have been buried in the 0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:03.399 secrecy of the grand jury for years and potentially forever. Now, 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.280 with J six going first, we get it all, We 0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:11.320 the people get all that information, and then the criminal 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:16.480 prosecutions will commence thereafter. I'm convinced, And that's just one 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.360 of the benefits. Other benefits is if we took all 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:23.639 these knuckleheads like Don Junior, Ivanka Rudy, and Jared, all 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.280 of whom testified to the J six Committee, and we 0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.480 now know some of them incriminated Donald Trump, if we 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.359 took them instead of putting them in front of the 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:35.960 J six committee, if DJ delivered them grand jury subpoenas first, 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.040 they would have invoked their Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination. 0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.679 They wouldn't have testified at all. So the fact that 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.040 J six went first because J six, when you get 0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.479