1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. Of course, I got my 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: girl Michelle with me once again, and I'm so excited 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: to catch up with you. Yes, it's so great to 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: be back this week for some girl chat with you. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: And speaking of girl chats, today we're gonna be joined 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: by Ali Yost of TikTok Fame and Girly Pop podcast. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. It'll be fun to have Ali on. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: She's just such a badass. She's all about female empowerment. 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: She just launched a new podcast on her own, so 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to catch up with her. But 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: before that, Michelle, I got to catch up with you 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: because I haven't chatted with you in a week and 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: I know. Okay, But first Becca, Yes, happy related birthday. Oh, 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. We need to talk about your 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: celebrations today. We're starting with you. Chicken nugget cake. That's 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. Chicken nugget cake. Tell us about it. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: I am well, okay, So that was the best surprise. 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: I gave up sweets for lent and so I obviously 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: can't have a real cake. And they like my tour 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: team and the dancers and Thomas obviously know me far 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: too well. So instead of an actual cake for the birthday, 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: they came out with this spectacular chicken nugget bouquet cake 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: that was just incredible. It had all of the chicken 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: nuggets like on like skewers, and then just all of 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: the sauces down below, and so I was living on 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: chicken nuggets for like a good twenty four hours. It 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: was delicious. I was the best surprised, though. I don't 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: know how you gave up sweets, truly, because especially when 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: I go on a road trip, a really long road trip, 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: and you were on this bus for Bachelor Live on stage, 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: like you've been on this bus for a minute, if 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: I could not have candy or sweets, I think I 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: would be so grumpy. Oh well, see, usually it's easy. 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: I do it every year because I have such a 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: bad sweet tooth, and like after the first couple days 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: and I feel good, I'm like I got this. But 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: because I'm on the tour bus and you know, there's 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: like eight or nine of us living on this bus, 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: everybody loves their sweets, so they're constantly with every city, 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: they're constantly bringing cupcakes, cookies, brownies, like whatever it is 41 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: that the city is known for we have on our bus, 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: and so it's been extra extra difficult this year. Like 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: I'm truly surprised that I've lasted this long. But Lent 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: is over very very soon, and I'm so excited because 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: the day that it ends will be in New Orleans, 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna stock up on vignets when we're there. 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what is the first thing that 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: you're eating? Oh, all the Vignet's even think I've ever 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: had a bignet. Oh my gosh, it's Oh, you would 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: love it. I mean, if you have a sweet tooth, 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: you would love it. It's kind of like it tastes 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: similar to a funnel cake, like the same texture and consistency, 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: but with all the powdered sugar on it. But just 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: whenever you try your first one, don't wear black because 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: every time you breathe, the powdered sugar literally goes everywhere, 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: and just like, we'll cake your shirt. So the first 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: time I ever had when I wore black, and it 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: was the worst idea. But they're mouse is literally watering 59 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: over here. If you just see me start to drool. 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Theay no attention, attention I'm going to see you on 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: Instagram later just buying pignets and just shoving your face 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: full of them. So please tell me. If you do, 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: let's do it. I will let you know for sure. 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: So we saw on Instagram that your mom and Thomas 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: this mom met they were at this show. Was this 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the first time that they have met in person? Yes, 67 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: officially met in person? Was on my birthday? I mean 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: they had been talking for so long since Thomas and 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: I got together. They had been on the phone, like 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: constantly texting each other, so I feel like when they 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: actually physically met, they were best friends, like, and they 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: love each other now every day. My mom's like, I 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: love Mama Jacobs. I love Because his sister was there too, 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: She's like, I love his sister. So it was so 75 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: fun to finally have us all together other. It was 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: just like it was long overdue and it was just 77 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: the absolute blast to have all of our families there 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: for my birthday was really really special. I'm gonna say 79 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: that was probably so nice for you. Warmed your heart 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: being up on stage now. Yeah, literally, like every one 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: of your supporters in the audience. That's all I know. 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: I know, But it's been such a blast with Bachel 83 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: eleven stage. Okay, I don't know how you're keeping up 84 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: with it? Are you tired? Because I'm over here teaching. 85 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm tired, so I don't absolutely you are not exhausted. Well, okay, 86 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean I have to give credit work. Credit is 87 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: due teachers. You all do so so much, especially with 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: twenty five thirty students each and every day, like you 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: deserve to be exhausted, like you have earned that. I mean, 90 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: I just go up on stage every night and sing 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: a dance and facilitated show. But I mean I can. 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a constant state of exhaustion 93 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: right now, like my feet are broken. But but I 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: don't want to complain because I absolutely love it. I 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: have such a blast. It's been truly like the most 96 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: fun thing I've ever done. I feel like I just 97 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: I found my thing and so it's been so wonderful. 98 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: Are you gonna be so sad when it's like your 99 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: last show? You think, oh yeah, definitely, definitely. It's it's 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna be weird. I mean, because we did this a 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, prior you know, to COVID, and 102 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: even when that shutdown, because we only got I think 103 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: like eighteen or nineteen shows under our belt. Like, even 104 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: when that ended, I was like, what do I do now? 105 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: You know, it was like this weird transition where I 106 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: was fixated on one thing for so long and now 107 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: luckily I still have my wine line and bordone and everything, 108 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a very weird adjustment. You have 109 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: so many things going on that after this show's over, 110 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: maybe you'll like taking a deep breath. But also you 111 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: just launched a new collapse. Can you tell us a 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: little bit about that? Oh? Yes, of course. I partnered 113 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: with a brand called Lulu Simon and they make just 114 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: so many different varieties of pieces of clothes, a lot 115 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: of loungewaur so I actually did a small little collab 116 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: with them that launched last week. It's all comfy clothes, 117 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: So tease a sweatshirt. I'm actually wearing it right now. 118 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: So I noticed that first of all. Yeah, but it's 119 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: all pieces that like basically are mey. So we have 120 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: one for the dogs, we have one for the champagne, 121 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: my sparkling wine line, and then just like a fun 122 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: oversized sweatshirt because I'm always in my loungewur, So if 123 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: anyone wants to get it, you can get it all 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: online at Lulu Simon dot com. I've been taking it 125 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: in my stories on Instagram, but it's just fun, comfy, 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: cozy pieces. I like, I hate to get all dressed up, 127 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: so whenever I can just wear my loungewur, that's all 128 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: I live in these days. So yeah, it's it's been 129 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: a fun project that I've been working on. But Michelle, 130 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: I want to pivot to you and hear from you. 131 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of fun things, So I saw that you and 132 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Nate recently ran into both Matt and Rachel at the 133 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: ncuble A Women's Final four. How was that unexpected? You know, 134 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: when you like you run into you expect to run 135 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: into one of your exes, right, I feel like it's inevitable, 136 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: like you break up whatever down the line, like you're 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: always going to run back into them, right, And so 138 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: I always knew that there's like gonna come a time 139 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: where you know, I crossed Matt's path again. And you know, 140 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Rachel and I still always catch up every once in 141 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: a while, and so you know we're not like completely disconnected. 142 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: But I was really surprised that that took place in Minnesota, 143 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: because that is like the last place I thought I'd 144 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: run into them. You know, Nate and are gonna be 145 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: traveling to New York here, and we've been in La 146 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: so much, so I thought that those were the places. 147 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: So it just kind of caught me off guard, and 148 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: definitely caught all the other fans who were at the 149 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: arena off guard too, and the amount of cameras and 150 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: phones that shot up as soon I was like, wait, 151 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: I was laughing. Everyone else around his laughing, Matt and 152 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Rachel were laughing, and so it was fun. It was 153 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: It was nice and you know, naked's along with everybody. 154 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right, It wasn't awkward or anything like that. Yeah. Well, 155 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: and I always say, like people always think, isn't it 156 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: weird running into your exes from the show, And it 157 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: all is probably dependent on who your ex is, but 158 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: everyone's paths crossed. There's always something going on that you 159 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: just know, especially in this world, you're going to run 160 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: into somebody. I have to say that I always forget 161 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: you were on Matt season. I forget too, but I yeah, 162 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: I actually forgot about that, and even when I posted 163 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: it on my story there, I have so many responses 164 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: that were like, I totally forgot that you were on 165 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Matt season, and I was like, honestly, I forgot too 166 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: until I saw him coming up the escalator with Rachel, Like, yeah, 167 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: it's something that you know, it's not necessarily a forfeit 168 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: of my mind. And it was. It was this huge 169 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: emotional roller coaster, right, but everything in this world changes 170 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: over so quick. So as quick as that breakup happened, 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: then you know, I was in this bachelorte role, and 172 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: now now I'm here, it seems like so long ago. Yeah, 173 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how you did it. Honestly, if I 174 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: would run into some of my exes, I would book 175 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: it the other way. I'd be like, I don't have 176 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: time for this. I could not chat with them. No, 177 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: it was just a public setting. But no, I mean 178 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: they seem you know, they seem like they're doing well. 179 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: Nate and I are doing really well. So yeah, it 180 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: was it was fun speaking of you and Nate and 181 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: you just mentioned this, but you guys are headed to 182 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: New York. What are you going there for? Is it 183 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: just for fun? So Nate and I were supposed to 184 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: go to New York after the finale. And it was 185 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: something that we were both looking forward to so much, 186 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: just because, like we always had in the background mind 187 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: that we were going to live in New York for 188 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: a period of time. That is not a hint or 189 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: anything like that, but we just we really wanted to 190 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: go there as a couple, and we're sad when we 191 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: had to cancel that trip due to the pandemic. And 192 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: so we got invited to Sherry Hill's fashion show, Bridal Version, 193 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: and so we decided to make a trip out of it. 194 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: And you know, we're going to meet up with Serena 195 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: and Joe, We're going to meet up Potentia with Bree 196 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: and her boyfriend that we've met before, and so it'll 197 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: be like a nice little trip. And I'm sure you could, 198 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, see us walking around doing all the touristy 199 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: things too. I mean, Nate's a huge museum person, so 200 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if we hit up a few museums. 201 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I love New York. I mean to 202 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: give you one recommendation. If you make it over to Brooklyn, 203 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: go to Ignazio's Pizza. It is my favorite spot, Thomas 204 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: introduced me, and it's and it's beautiful. It's right under 205 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: the bridge, like right on the water, beautiful setting. There's 206 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: so many other of course, it's New York and Brooklyn, 207 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: like so many other bars and restaurants around it, but 208 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: it is worth the hike over there, walk the bridge, 209 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: and just head on down. It's so good. Oh, I'm 210 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: so jealous excited for that again. My mouth is over 211 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: here watering. Okay, please take pictures of all of the 212 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: food you eat. I will live vicariously through you. Well, Michelle, 213 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: it's been so fun to catch up with you. You're 214 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: gonna have an absolute blast in New York. Live it 215 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: up for me. But we got to keep this fun rolling. 216 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: I think it's time that we just bring out our 217 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: amazing guest of the day. She is not only a 218 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: professional makeup artist, but she has a huge following on TikTok, 219 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: and she, like I mentioned, recently launched her own podcast 220 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: called Girlypop. So everybody please welcome Ali Yost. Hello. How 221 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: are you doing. I'm great, guy. Well, we were so 222 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: excited to have you. Congratulations first on the launch of 223 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: your Girlypop podcast. So exciting. I appreciate that, guy, So 224 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: we know that you were all about women empowerment and 225 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: just sending positive vibes and so Becca and I were 226 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: just super excited. I know that I followed you on 227 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: TikTok for a little bit, so I was really happy 228 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: to be able to interview you and just kind of 229 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: see how all of this came about. Yeah, you guys 230 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: are so sweet. Thank you so much. Thanks for me 231 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: first off, of course, but yeah, I don't know, it 232 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: kind of like happened on accident, if you're asking, like 233 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: how I even started my TikTok um. It was like 234 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: right at the peak of the pandemic and before my 235 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: social media really started to explode. I was a freelancing 236 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: makeup artist, so obviously once COVID hit, I couldn't do 237 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: makeup anymore. So, um, it was just one of those 238 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: times where I was we were all there, right, we 239 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: were just bored, like looking things to do from home, 240 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: So um, I just started making videos. And I think 241 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: also just as humans during that time, with all of 242 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: us going through something so traumatic where we didn't really 243 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: know how to navigate through it, I think, you know, 244 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: just like hope and encouragement was like so needed more 245 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: than any other time, you know, Like that was like 246 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: the most that we probably could have really needed some 247 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: type of like words of encouragement on the internet, you know. So, um, 248 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: I guess that that's probably like that's probably why it 249 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: exploded the way that it did, because I just think 250 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: the timing was really great. Um. But yeah, I've always 251 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: kind of I've always been like that. I've always it's 252 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: been very like back in the day, I used to 253 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: be on Vine, and so I had like, yes, I 254 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: miss Vine so much. I talked about it. But that's 255 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: the reason I love TikTok so much? Is it because 256 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it's very similar to Vine in that way, 257 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, just like a longer version. But um, yeah, 258 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I had a whole two thought one hundred thousand on Vine, 259 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: and I kind of felt like that was like the 260 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: peak of my social media presence, you know, like I 261 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: didn't really get any type of traction or like I 262 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: didn't get an audience bigger than when I had my Vine. 263 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: So it was just it was really cool for me 264 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: because the way that my TikTok exploded, I was like, Wow, 265 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: I guess like people still like want to hear what 266 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: I have to say, or like they still value the 267 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: content that I make. You know so um, But yeah, 268 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: I guess it kind of just happened on accident. But 269 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: then I just kept going with it and now it's 270 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: my full time and I love it. I still do makeup, 271 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: I still freelance, but TikTok and social media is my 272 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: full time now, which is such a dream come true 273 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: because I've been doing it for years. But yeah, so 274 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: that's my You have the whole creative mindset, which I 275 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: love because I am truly not that way. And so 276 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: every time I see people blowing up on TikTok or 277 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: whatever it is, I'm like, yeah, that's incredible. Just it 278 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: blows my mind. I have to ask you, though, and 279 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: I do want to get into more of the podcast 280 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: and everything, but before that, because Michelle and I are 281 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: fans of you, we obviously love like Michelle said, you're 282 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: you're just a badass female empowerment, good positive vibes. Just 283 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: to spread all throughout social media because it can be 284 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: a very scary place. Yeah. But were you a bouchhort 285 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: or boucherette fan? Um? So I was there a little 286 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: bit when I was younger, but I was like afraid 287 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: that you guys were gonna ask is Oh no, no, No No, 288 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: don't worry. I don't keep up with it. I really don't, obviously, 289 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: like I'm familiar with y'all, Like I'm familiar with, you know, 290 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: the people on the show, but I'm definitely not a 291 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: person who like watches all the episodes and keeps up 292 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: with it. Like every girlfriend of mine does. You know 293 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: these two women coming up, Alie, this is your chance 294 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: to maybe you know, get back on the Bachelorette chain. 295 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know for sure, I love it. I've 296 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: been wanting somebody on the podcast where they're like, no, 297 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan. I don't watch the show. I'm 298 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: like because like, realistically, there's so much more to everybody 299 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: than just like the one thing than the show. So 300 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you're like that's not like y'all, that's 301 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: not just like your only identity, right, yeah, Like yes, 302 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: it's a major part of your life, but we identify 303 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: in other ways than just the Bachelor, So like, yes, 304 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: like I'm glad. Yeah, absolutely. It is so crazy though, 305 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: like how just even being right like this is such 306 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: a small snippet of your life, like even with Becca too, 307 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: like when you were on the show, you have so 308 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: much more life outside of the show, but like those 309 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: few minutes or whatever airtime you have or whatever people 310 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: know of you, like, that's who you are. That's who 311 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: you are, right, that's your full identity, Like you were 312 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: a person before that show and you're show. Yeah, you 313 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: know exactly, And I like it's it's almost like you 314 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: can understand that. The people who've gone through it can 315 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: understand it, you know, but um, not necessarily like fans, 316 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: I always understand that piece to be kind of crazy. Yeah, 317 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: and it's reality TV, right, so it's like it only 318 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: shows like little parts of who you are, not as 319 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: the first full person you know. Yes, yes, it shows 320 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: two months of our lives and that's it and that's it, 321 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: and yes, there's so much more all of us. Not 322 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: a Bachelorette fan, but that is okay, not yet. We 323 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: might have you, we might have you next season. We'll see, 324 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: we'll see. But um okay, one I saw the other 325 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: day on TikTok you posted, um you did like a 326 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: little video of where you started, like your first makeup 327 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: that you did versus like where you are now. Yeah, 328 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: which is so wild to look. I'm like, can you 329 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: just come do my islander? Because of the wing islander. 330 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: I can't. Like I thought about bringing my island a 331 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: pencil here, like, oh my god, we should do a tutorial. 332 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: I need it bad, cook grab new pencil. Now. That's 333 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: one thing that I love about winged liners, like hasn't 334 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: gone out, Like even then six years ago, I was 335 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: wearing winged liner and I just hope it never goes 336 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: away because that's like such a staple, as like a 337 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: good eyeliner moment you feel like it. I mean, it's 338 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: been a thing since what like the sixties, probably been forever. Yeah, No, 339 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: honestly I need to. I need to. Yeah, I shall 340 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: loves her bomber Jackets bomber Jackets. At a moment, I 341 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: want to get into more of your TikTok presence, but 342 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: first because I we're all about building up women and 343 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: we're just so happy that we have a fellow podcast 344 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: on here. So you recently launched girly Pop. Where did 345 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: you get that name? Like? How what does it mean 346 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: for all of our listeners? Yeah? So um I okay. 347 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: So honestly, it just stems back from one day randomly 348 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: one of my girlfriends was like hyping me up on 349 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: my Instagram post. As we do as women, right, we 350 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: hype each other off in the comments. So she called 351 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: me girly pop. She was like, whatever, you look great, 352 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: girly pop, and I literally fell to the ground. I 353 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: was like, that is the cutest thing I've ever heard. 354 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: And then I just it kind of like stuck to 355 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: my own vocabulary. And then during one of the times 356 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: I was giving like my little encouraging moments or like 357 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: pep talk on TikTok, I threw in girly pop and everyone, 358 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: like my audience was like ran with it. They loved it. 359 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: So it just kind of stuck. So I feel like 360 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: every kind of like outro to my videos, I'm like, 361 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: you got this girly pop, or like even with my podcast, 362 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: I'll be like, you know, you got this girly pop, 363 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: love you girly pops. Whatever. So that's just kind of 364 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: like that's like my audience now is they're they're my 365 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: girly pops, and it's just become like such a part 366 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: of my brand. Yeah. So um, Honestly, my audience was 367 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: like a huge inspiration for me to start a podcast 368 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: because I just feel like there was so much more 369 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: conversation that we could have passed like three minutes Max 370 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: on TikTok. You know, so I had never really considered 371 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: having a podcast until they were like, no, you like, 372 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: we would really really listen to it. So I was like, Okay, 373 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: I mean I really love to talk. I was like 374 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: born to freaking talk, so my mom can vouch for 375 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: that for sure. Um, So I was like, I might 376 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: as well give it a shot. And then one day 377 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: I was brainstorming and I was like, shut up, Early popcast. 378 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: That's like the cutest thing I've ever heard. So it's 379 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: just yeah, it's just been like the center of my brand. 380 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: But I love it. You know what, I keep like 381 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: listening in my head. You know, we all know the 382 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: old school and sync song dirty Pop. I feel like 383 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: we gotta do a remix like girly Pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 384 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: I've got before. Yeah that's so cute. You need to 385 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: do a yes, totally, let's go. I love that. Well. 386 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: One thing about you and I feel like so many 387 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: probably of your followers have said this to you too 388 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: and can relate as you just spread so many positive 389 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: vibes sort of all of your content. But what I 390 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: do love about you two is you're very willing, which 391 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: actually could be perfect for the television show. Is you're 392 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: so willing to be vulnerable and open and honest and 393 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: even you know, get emotional and cry when the moment 394 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: calls for it. Um So, whether it's through advice, after 395 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: me motivational messages, how does it feel knowing that your 396 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: content brings so much happiness to people? Oh my god, 397 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: I love that. It's it's honestly what makes it all 398 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: worthwhile for me. And at the end of the day, 399 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: like my one mission in life is just that I 400 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: make a difference in one way, shape or form while 401 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm here on planet Earth, you know what I mean. 402 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: So if that means that I touch three people, twenty people, 403 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: one point four million people, like that's all that I 404 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: can ever ask for. So that is one hundred percent 405 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: what keeps me going because obviously with being you know, 406 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: a social media presence you have, it's a lot of 407 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: opportunity for people to critique you. And it's just like 408 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: it's just vulnerable to like put yourself out there for 409 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: strangers every single day. Like there's so many people who 410 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: know like every part of my life. You guys get this, 411 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: So it's like sometimes it can get a little overwhelming 412 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: or even discouraging, but I think at the end of 413 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: my day, like I just thank God every single day 414 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: that I can just be that person that can make 415 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: a difference for people even though I've never met them. 416 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: Like that's like the craziest thing to social media for 417 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: me is that I can touch people that I haven't 418 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: even really personally met, and that just like blows my mind. 419 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: It's like the coolest thing ever. And how like heavily 420 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: you can actually influence them, And I think, yeah, I 421 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: mean that is such an amazing thing. You definitely are 422 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: touching woman and young girls as well, so I con 423 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: like across the world and then that's wild, you know. 424 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: I think the coolest part for me is just you know, 425 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: watching it when you're in a position, right, you're doing 426 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: all these beautiful to makeup tutorials and all these different things, right, 427 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: and it's so easy for girls to take a look 428 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: at that and be like I want to be exactly 429 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: like that, Like this girl, this woman is perfect, but 430 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: you being so willing to show that vulnerable side shows 431 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: them like it's okay to break down, and that's real life. 432 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's a piece that I just a 433 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: lot of people connect with and right, Yeah, it's pretty 434 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: I even think as like a consumer of do I 435 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: say consumer, I don't know, like a person who scrolls 436 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: on the internet. You know, there's so much of that 437 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: already that I'm like, it's like that. It's like that 438 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: saying where it's like, if you don't see enough of 439 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: blank in the world, just be it. And so I'm like, 440 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: I don't see enough realness. I don't see enough like 441 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: mental breakdowns on the living room floor. So like I'm 442 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: gonna be that. No other people are doing it. I 443 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: know I'm not the only thing all doing it. We're 444 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: all there there a few minutes ago, you know exactly. 445 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: I actually love that you said that, And I want 446 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: to ask you both this question because this is something 447 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: that I've charted with some of my girlfriends, just like 448 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: from back home back in Minnesota with is I and 449 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: I recently went through I call I called it the 450 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: purge on Instagram, where I followed a decent amount of people, 451 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: but especially people who everything was so perfect, so curated. 452 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: It had like this seamless aesthetic where it was like 453 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: all just them with their selfies and their perfect clothes, 454 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: hair done up, makeup done like beautiful, like showing off 455 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: the bodies, and I'm like, this seems so fake to me, 456 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: Like this is not real, And so I just had 457 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: to stop following a lot of them, and like now 458 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: even you know, because you can go on the search 459 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: feed in Instagram and on TikTok, I don't even follow 460 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 1: them anymore because I'm like, I don't want to just 461 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: constantly be seeing this one side of things and like 462 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: think that this is reality. I think it's so damaging, 463 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: especially for young women. Do you both find yourselves kind 464 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: of having that same mentality of like, you know, you 465 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: only want the real now? Yeah? I think I think 466 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: that just like the overfiltered, like perfect stuff on the 467 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Internet has gotten really old, and I think it's it's 468 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: so important to be like self aware of what is 469 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: going through your brain when you're looking at that stuff. 470 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: So like sometimes I'll be following, you know, certain women 471 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: or certain accounts or whatever on Instagram and I've been 472 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: following them for years and I'm like, no, no, no, 473 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: I really love this person. And then I'm like, but Ali, 474 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: do you really love them? Or every time you look 475 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: at a post of them, you're like about yourself, you 476 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's not even anything where 477 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: you're like, she's such a fake whatever. It's like, you know, 478 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: I can I think she's beautiful, she's amazing, her life 479 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: looks awesome. But in reality, I every time I see 480 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: their stuff, I don't talk well to myself. And if 481 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: that's the type of response that I get by looking 482 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: at their stuff, I can't follow them anymore, you know. 483 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: So it's not it's like it's it's almost like you 484 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: just have to be really self conscious of like how 485 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 1: you're talking to yourself or what is going through your 486 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: brain when you see certain posts like that. You know. 487 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest part for me personally, is 488 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: just being able to identify those types of thoughts right, 489 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: not not allowing them to spiral out of control, because 490 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: it's like your brain really does fire all these random 491 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: things at times sometimes you don't even realize it. Yeah. Yeah, 492 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: it's hard, and it's like even if you're aware of it, right, 493 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: it still happens, and sometimes like it takes you a 494 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: minute to catch yourself for sure. But yeah, I mean 495 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: I just when I like sit and look at my 496 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: students and I hear my students talk about all these 497 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: different things on TikTok and Instagram and they're ten and eleven, 498 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: and the fact that like they're already comparing there's so 499 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: much that's really hard, you know, that's so hard to 500 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: to see. And so it's like, you know, if I'm 501 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: doing it, you know, they're definitely definitely and they don't 502 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: even have you know, necessarily, like life is so confusing 503 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: at that time as well. Yeah, well we at least 504 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: as adults probably have more of the wherewithal to kind 505 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: of know, like track our friend, and they can't. They 506 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: truly can't. It's they really believe it. I'm not gonna 507 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: let my kids have technology. They will not have phones, 508 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: access to the internet, anything. Intel tell you to get 509 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: your driver's license, go play, go play outside, go play kickball. 510 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: I'll get iPads and stuff. Before they even hit double digits, 511 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: they're like eight years old with like full access to 512 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: the Internet. And I'm like, I literally had like random 513 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: eight year olds duetting my TikTok and I'm like, why 514 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: are you on the internet. You're eight, Go play soccer? 515 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: Why I don't even know what I'm talking about. There's 516 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: no way this is all going right over your little 517 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: eight year old head. You totally like what stuff that 518 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: they're inundated with in this saying age is such a 519 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: scary thing. Oh my god. I was going to ask 520 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: you both actually at the top of this episode when 521 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned Vine, did either of you have my Space 522 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: or was that before your time? Yes? I had my Space? 523 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: Did you have my Space? No? I didn't because my 524 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: parents didn't let me. Okay I didn't, she said, No, 525 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: I had my Space, which I'm actually surprised because not 526 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: thinking about it, Like my parents were fairly strict growing up. 527 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: But do you remember when you had to rate to 528 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: your friends your top eight? You had to rate your 529 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: top friends, Like that's how best friends? Like, do you 530 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: know how unhealthy that is? Like, oh my god. What 531 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: about the Facebook status is where it would be like, 532 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it'd be like rate me or something. What 533 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: was it called? I know exactly what you're talking about. It. Yes, 534 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: that social media is this freaking scary place. And to 535 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: be honest was called to be honest, to be honest, 536 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: like write it, to be honest about me, to be 537 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: honest you like you're so beautiful, Like to be honest, 538 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: like your breath is really smelly, Like it was just 539 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: not nice stuff. Like, why are we setting each other 540 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: up to like to sleep at like right? Oh man, 541 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, man, Well, I'm glad that Michelle had 542 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: in my face. I was because I'm old, obviously older 543 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: than both of you. I just turned thirty two, and 544 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm really going to age myself right now 545 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: asking this question. I never had it, I honestly, I 546 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: when I had my first Facebook account, like all my 547 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: other friends had Facebook. I did have a cell phone 548 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: at this point, but my parents were like, no social media. 549 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: They were smarter, honestly, they knew what they were doing it. 550 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: At the time, I was like, you guys are such jerks, 551 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, like, just let me all my friends have Facebook? 552 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: Why can't I? M And I made a fake, well 553 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: not fake, but like I made a Facebook account behind 554 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: my parents back, and they found out obviously how long 555 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: did they go without finally, like how long did you 556 00:27:52,920 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: get away with it? Like twelve hours? Oh a week? No, 557 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: like what twelve hours night while I was sleeping. I 558 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: wasn't even using it and then they they found out 559 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: the next morning. How did they find out? Did they 560 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: go like did you forget to delete the history or 561 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: something on the computer got to log out like or something, 562 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: you know, because that was like when we had like 563 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: a family like computer. There was no rookie mistake. Ali 564 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: I didn't even mind, Like well I and then what 565 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: was it? We aol hey, you know like the whole 566 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: like phone thing would run yeah yeah, yeah yeah wait 567 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: do you do you both remember your handles? And it 568 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: breaks my heart. I don't remember it. It was probably 569 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: something so cheesy and I don't remember. I'm so bumped. 570 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: I just had this conversation again with my girlfriend's back 571 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and we were all reading our user names 572 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: to each other and I was like, this shit's embarrassing. 573 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: Well I had one, so my very first one because 574 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: I loved taking back Sunday back in the day because 575 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: I was emo. It was like Sunday's best and probably 576 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: like my birthday or something. And then I had one 577 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: that because my nickname was Booper, so like Boops or 578 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: Booper or something. Um. But like my friend, I mean, 579 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: of course, like when you're younger, you don't like fully 580 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: understand what like certain things or numbers mean. So like 581 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: all of my girlfriends had like, um like Blonde Chica 582 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: sixty nine, and I'm like we were literally ten, Like 583 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: we had no idea when sixty nine even meant at 584 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: that point, but like we just thought it was cool. 585 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: But Ali, I actually have this question for you because 586 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: if your parents were so again against like my Space 587 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: and Facebook, how do they feel now that basically social 588 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: media is your full time career. I wait, I love 589 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: that question so much. I thought about it helpful circle moment. 590 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: I haven't even asked them that yet, but um, I 591 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: mean they're extremely supportive of what I do, especially because 592 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: they're just proud of this type of content I make, 593 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, um, so, so so yeah, they're very supportive now. 594 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: But that's hilarious. I didn't even think of that. Like 595 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: they like, we're trying everything to not have me on it, 596 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: and you need to stop. Right by the time this airs, 597 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: hopefully you'll have chatted with them so you're back to us. 598 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: I will absolutely, I'll hold him tonight. I have Yes. 599 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: I love it. Ellie, you talked a little bit about 600 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: like making content right, because like it has become this 601 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: like huge part of your life. Is there a point 602 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: where like making content it's stressful for you now that 603 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: it's like right because it's do you feel like your 604 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: personal life is social media and your business life is 605 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: social media, and then you're just you know, you're trying 606 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: to make that daily content, you're trying to reach your viewers, 607 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: you're trying to do all these different things. How do 608 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: you figure out that balance? Yeah, it's it's crazy you 609 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: just bring that up now, because I feel like I 610 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: kind of had my first uh I don't want to 611 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: say breakdown, but yeah, kind of I had my first 612 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: moment of like really feeling like I hit like the 613 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: most overwhelmedness that I've ever felt. Because again, I've never 614 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: been full time social media, so like, leading up to now, 615 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: it's it's been like, yes, I did social media, and 616 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: I was uploading my tutorials and I was you know, 617 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: I was on Instagram and YouTube and stuff, but it 618 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: was really like I could only do it when I 619 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: had my free time. So there was still something taking 620 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: me away from social media, like freelancing or like you know, 621 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: when I worked retail, it was like I still worked 622 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: all day and then I kind of got a break 623 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: from it. In that sense, now it's almost like I 624 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: have all the freedom in the world, which is amazing, 625 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: but it's like because I have all this freedom, I 626 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: almost have to teach myself to set those boundaries and 627 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: like really make sure that I'm still prioritizing time away 628 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: from it otherwise. I literally like I had to step 629 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: away from my social media for a week, like probably 630 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: three weeks ago, and I was just like fully transparent 631 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: with my audience, and I was like, I just like 632 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm just not I just don't feel like myself. I 633 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: feel like I'm like in this weird fog. I just 634 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: really need to like to take a moment to realize 635 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm alive and I'm like in real world, you know, 636 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: because it's very consuming, especially with when you are a creator. 637 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: But then also like you feel like you always have 638 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: to be genuinely on social media to like know all 639 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: the trends and like make sure that you're like still 640 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: with it, you know what I mean. So um, yeah, 641 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: it's definitely it has its moments, especially because I've only 642 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: been living in North Carolina for six years, but I 643 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: was born and raised in upstate New York, so I 644 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: still have a lot of like my core besties that 645 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: I grew up with, you know. So again, like social 646 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: media like all that stuff is like also the only 647 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: way that I can stay in touch with those people, 648 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 1: So even just like simple text messages and stuff, I'm like, 649 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmed by you know what I mean. So I 650 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: do have to say that like my biggest advice, And honestly, 651 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: the week that I took off was like the most 652 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: I'd ever felt alive in like a year, because I 653 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: finally was like breathing and like going for walks outside. 654 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: It sounds so simple, but you know when you're just 655 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: like so consumed. And I love what I do too, 656 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: So that's the other thing is I just love to work. 657 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: I love to be busy all the time, and I 658 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: almost feel like if I'm not working, I get like 659 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: that guilt where I'm like I could be working right now, 660 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: like I could be productive, which is kind of a 661 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: toxic mentality, you know. So yeah, I started journaling every 662 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: morning and every evening and I've kept with it the 663 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: past three weeks. And it's just crazy how like simple 664 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: little things like that that you wouldn't think would be 665 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: all that impactful was so impactful. Like I felt it 666 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: within three days. I was like, Damn, this feels good, 667 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, like to just like sit and like write 668 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: to myself or read a book or whatever. So yeah, 669 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: it has its moments, but you know, you just have 670 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: to learn how to do it all in moderation and 671 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, set those boundaries with yourself. Well, kudos to 672 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: you for even being able to say, like, for my 673 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 1: mental health, I need to step away. I feel like 674 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: in this day and age, people say that and it's 675 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: so much harder to do, especially when it's constantly at 676 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: your fingertips, And it sounds like it was very needed. 677 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: One thing I want to ask you because you because 678 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: you even said you have to prioritize your time obviously, 679 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: whether that's for your personal life or content creation or 680 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: just being on social media to learn the trends and 681 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: the ticks. So I I'm sure our listeners would love 682 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: to know this too, But for me personally, I like 683 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: just started kind of going on TikTok and like I'm 684 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: still trying to figure out what the hell I'm doing. 685 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: I do not go went on TikTok. I was so overwhelmed. 686 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: It's just like getting a new app. Yeah, you're like, 687 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how to navigate this thing out. Yeah, 688 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: you know, I don't get it. I truly don't understand it. 689 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that I have you. But like, so, 690 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: what does a day in the life look like for 691 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: you when you're on social media, like trying to come 692 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: up with content creation? Like what does that look like? 693 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: How much time do you put into it? Like give 694 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: me any tips please? Sure? So Honestly, I mean, this 695 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: is just how I've always approached it. I've never been 696 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: the type of TikTok or who like does all this 697 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: crazy editing or vlogging, like you know, the TikToker is 698 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: that like obviously put a lot of time and effort, 699 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: like it's a production, like they use like a professional 700 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: camera or whatever, or they do all these crazy transitions. 701 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: I try with my transitions, but um, I just I 702 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I just feel like people really 703 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: love like just real moments, you know what I mean, 704 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: So like almost like as if you were just picking 705 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: up the phone and talking to a girlfriend. Or Honestly, 706 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: it was crazy because I saw somebody talk about this 707 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: on TikTok too, which I was like, damn, I guess 708 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: that's like kind of what I do. And I think 709 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: it's very effective. Is almost treating TikTok as you would 710 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: like your Instagram stories. So when you're hopping on an 711 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: Instagram story and you're just like talking about a random 712 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: thing or whatever. That's kind of how I treat my 713 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: TikTok and I just you know, and eventually I just 714 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,439 Speaker 1: think that that stuff like really catches up and people 715 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: really enjoy it. I do have to say, the algorithm 716 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: makes absolutely no sense. Your opinion on that, Yeah, because 717 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: I saw another like all these random videos will come 718 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: on my for you page though, people like trying to 719 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: get tricks and tips to like make sure your stuff 720 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: goes viral like this and one girl get video thing, 721 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: yeah right, like nothing longer than seven secondance or like 722 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: another one was U look back at your other videos 723 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: that have gone viral and just look at like what 724 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: time you posted or whatever, And all the ones that 725 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: have gone viral from me are like three pm noon, 726 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: two in the morning. Like it doesn't make sense, you 727 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So, like the algorithm I will 728 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: never understand, and I just crossed my fingers every time. 729 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, and then I don't know, just using like 730 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: any trending hashtags I guess worked too. But yeah, I 731 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: think people just appreciate realness. You know, Becca was in 732 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: my first TikTok video because I literally I had TikTok 733 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: for a little bit. I mean I've always had TikTok, 734 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: Like I downloaded it from the whole pandemic. It honestly 735 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: kept me mentally sane. I feel like, yes, as it 736 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: probably did a lot of other people. Um, but I 737 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: didn't post anything until like a month ago, and Becca 738 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: was on my first TikTok. We did a little dance. 739 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was so embarrassing. I'm screaming. It 740 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: was so embarrassed. It was a crazy Wait a minute, 741 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: I don't even remember the lyrics, no freaking Cloe. I 742 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: was with Michelle and then Serena, who's like who grew 743 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: up dancing and I haven't danced in years, and I 744 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: think you both kind of already knew the move. So 745 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: I was thrown into it and could not, for the 746 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: life of me, get it down. I was like, oh, 747 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: it was Um, it was a moment, but yes, didn't. 748 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: It entertained us for a really long time, and also 749 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: entertained the guys who sat like many takes before we 750 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: went on family Feud. So it's a workout too. I've 751 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: tried doing dancing to talk maybe twice, and I'm not 752 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: that never you guys, I will I've probably only tried 753 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: to dance twice out of the like almost two years 754 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: that I've been on TikTok Um. Yeah, it's a workout though, 755 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: Like I've been sweating sometimes try to. Oh, I just 756 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: trying to make one in general, because I have no 757 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: idea what the hell is going on right right? You're like, 758 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 1: it's just the anxiety, anxiety ranging right now and swamping deal. 759 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm fine, it's okay. That is so funny. Um, Okay, 760 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: one more thing I want to ask you about TikTok 761 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: and then we'll get into our game. But obviously we've 762 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: seen Gracie, your dog, make appearances on TikTok Um. Is 763 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: it just so much fun doing them with her? Yeah, 764 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: she's just like she's like my child's kind of sick, 765 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: Like she's literally like like I birthed her, Like I 766 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: just love her that much. Like sometimes I um, I 767 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: really think like I can only imagine the type of 768 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: mom I really will be one day because if this 769 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: is how I am with my dog, like, bless my 770 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: child's heart, they're gonna get off of me. I get it. 771 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: You love me like at Yeah, I'm gonna be a 772 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: smother mother for sure like that, Yeah, it's I. Um, 773 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: it's crazy because and I talked about this on an 774 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: episode of my podcast where um, this was right around 775 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: the time of my little breakdown where I was like, 776 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: I need to take a break from social media. I 777 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: was just kind of like one thing after another. But um, 778 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: Gracie's health was very strange. There was something going on 779 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: with her that I just didn't understand. So I got 780 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: on the internet and I had another one of those 781 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: vulnerable moments where I was like, you know, having a 782 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: dog can be really stressful. Uma is that's the damn true, 783 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, that living thing that you have to take 784 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: care of. Obviously there are there are bigger responsibilities like 785 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: a human being, you know. And I never like discredited that, 786 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: but um, that was probably the first time that I've 787 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: ever gotten hate in a way as well, because I 788 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: do like to consider myself pretty lucky that majority of 789 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: my audience or the people who see my videos are 790 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: very supportive and kind people. I don't really deal with 791 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: a lot of hate, but I feel I felt like 792 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: that TikTok like really got on the side of like 793 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: angry single mom TikTok, and they were all in my 794 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: comments like well, if you think a dog is overwhelming, 795 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: like just imagine having a child of three, working twelve 796 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: jobs and being a single mom. And I'm like, damn, 797 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: I never ever discredited that. But also I just felt 798 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: like that was and that like I had a whole 799 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: topic about that on my podcast where I was like, 800 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: just because other people have bigger struggles or bigger battles, 801 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that yours is any less of a struggle, 802 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, doesn't mean that you 803 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: should feel discredited in your feelings. So um, yeah, that 804 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: was like a whole Gracie's fine now, but yeah, but yeah, 805 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: I love her to piece it. So yeah, well I'm 806 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: glad that you say that too. It's and again to 807 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: never discredit anyone, but like you're living in your life 808 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: like that was the moment that was the biggest burden 809 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: for you, And it can be stressful. Dogs can't talk back, 810 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: trust me, I get it. I'm a doc mom and 811 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I have constant anxiety over minnow where I'm like, 812 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: holy shit, how am I going to actually raise a 813 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: human being if I'm like this right now? But I 814 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: get it. But yeah, like, and that's that's actually The 815 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: scary part of social media is when people, the trolls, 816 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: will they'll try to diminish you and you're struggling, yeah, 817 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: and but they always like want to one up, and 818 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: it's like this is not a competition here, like this 819 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: is just a place for me to share my story. 820 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: Like Martha, this isn't a competition. God bless you and 821 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: your children. But like, you know, okay, that was question. 822 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: Do you respond? Like do you t say, like, let's 823 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: say you see a message, do you I know that 824 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: we all probably are like you want to respond right 825 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: in our heads. Don't do it. You know. I've probably 826 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: slipped up a couple times and responded, But I do 827 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: have to say that a majority of the time, I 828 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: really do try to hold myself back because I think that, well, 829 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: when you're just stooping to their level, you're giving them 830 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: exactly what they want, which is a reaction, right, They 831 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: want to know that they got to you. So I 832 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: simply turned the comments off on that video, which I've 833 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: never done before. But I was like, I don't want 834 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: this anymore, and I'm not going to give them the 835 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,479 Speaker 1: power to feel that they can. Everyone can say whatever 836 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: they want. Obviously, we all have freedom of speech, but 837 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: this is my page, and so if I don't want 838 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: that energy, I'm turning the comments off. So and then 839 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: also it keeps me from getting upset. It keeps me 840 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: from reacting and maybe saying things in the heat of 841 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: the moment that I would not be proud of. So um, yeah, 842 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: try my best. I'm sure you can find something somewhere, 843 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: or maybe I got a little sassy with a troll. 844 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: But majority of the time I try not to respond 845 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: because it's just not worth it. It's really and it's 846 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: a stranger's opinion of me. That again, it's like kind 847 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: of tying back to what we said before, where it's 848 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: like that was only like thirty seconds of my life 849 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: that they saw, and so their opinion is so so 850 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: irrelevant because they have no idea the bigger picture of 851 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Yeah, you know, I don't 852 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: so much more reflection of that, you know what I mean, 853 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: Like when someone's commenting on someone's page like that, it 854 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: is more reflection of them than because honestly, like when 855 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm I've never left a hate comment in my life, 856 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: and I'm proud to say it. So it's like, but 857 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: also I've just been very content in the type of 858 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: person that I am or just even just my life, 859 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: And so I know that if anyone is going to 860 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: leave any type of hate or just negativity on the internet, 861 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: there's just no way that they are like sitting on 862 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: a yacht somewhere, like really happy with their life, Like 863 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: they're probably feeling a certain type of way about themselves 864 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: or where they're at. Um. And I honestly, in moments 865 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: like that, I just like I pray for them, and 866 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, I just hope that they get to be 867 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: in a better place where they don't feel like they 868 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: have to hate on strangers on the internet. Yeah you know, 869 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: like right really yeah, where they don't have to leave 870 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: a thirty second remark that isn't going to do anything 871 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: for anyone. Now, I feel like truly burns more calories 872 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: moving then you would have if you just just like 873 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: a paragraph like you use grammarly on this to make 874 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: sure that there are no errors, like come on, well 875 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes sometimes they don't. Sometimes they don't want to 876 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: be honest. Yeah this even English. Yeah, yeah, plus your heart, um, Ali, 877 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: it has been so much fun getting to know you 878 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: a bit more. But we do want to get to 879 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: know you even more because we have a game that 880 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: we want to play. It's very easy. It's basically a 881 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: rapid fire question that we're going to ask you and 882 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: you just give us the answer that comes to mind. So, okay, 883 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: I'll start it off. It's very easy. Um, what is 884 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: your guilty pleasure? Um? Pizza? Is that deep enough? That's 885 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 1: not deep enough? Pizza? We love? Okay, I can't emplain 886 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: what is your signature? Drink? Oh, is supposed to be 887 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 1: rapid fire. I feel so under pressure, but I honestly, 888 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm so bad about drinks. I just get a vodka 889 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 1: sotta with pranberry, which is so boring simple? Yeah, wait, 890 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: I have to champagne or just champagne a girl. Oh, 891 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: I will send you. I have a sparkling wineline, so 892 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: I will send you some of mine after that. Ali, 893 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: when are you most productive in the evenings? Okay? Like 894 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: it's the weirdest thing, but I feel like, as soon 895 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: as the sun is setting, I'm like, let's work what backwards? Opposite? 896 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing my makeup at one in the morning. Why? 897 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: Like you? Okay, what is what is your zodiac sign? 898 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: And if you know anything like about your sign? What 899 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 1: is like the most or what is the biggest trait 900 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: that relates to that you're smiling? Yeah, I'm do you guys? 901 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: Somebody guesses at all? Oh? Um, are you a Leo? No? 902 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: Are you a Gemini? No? Oh but I'm close. So 903 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm actually a Taurus. But I'm like the very last 904 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: day of a Taurus bors. Yeah. Um, but I would say, uh, 905 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: three major things that I would say definitely aligns with 906 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: who I am is I'm very stubborn. Um, and I 907 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: really love my food. I love food, and I love sleeping, 908 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: so like naps and food are very important to us horses. 909 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like you are my twin. Okay, 910 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: food and sleep. I'm like, yes, okay, Ali. What is 911 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: one thing that you never can leave your house without? Oh? 912 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: Probably my phone? Yeah, I can't leave the house without 913 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: my phone. M What is your favorite your all time 914 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: favorite dessert? Anything? Chocolate? Probably chocolate ice cream though, like 915 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: chocolate ice cream holds my heart so deeply, or like 916 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 1: if it's chocolate ice cream with a um or vanilla, 917 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: I guess. But but if it has like a chocolate 918 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: brownie or like a chocolate cookie with it done like 919 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: a warm one, Yeah, that if you could have any superpower, 920 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: what would it be? Um, maybe is time travel is superpower? 921 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: Yeah you can time travel? Are there superheroes that can 922 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: time travel? I think so, okay, it's a super power, 923 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: it's anything. Yeah, yeah, right, I've invented it. Yeah, I mean, yes, 924 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: definitely time travel. I don't know why, though, maybe back 925 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 1: I'd go back. I'd probably go back, and like it'd 926 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: these stupid little things like if you know, the waiter 927 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: was like enjoy and I was like you too, Like 928 00:46:53,840 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: I'd be like thank you. I couldn't get that so much. 929 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: But like the other day, I went for a walk 930 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: and I didn't take I didn't take my tag off 931 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: of my new leggings. So I was walking all around 932 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: the city like with a tagging out my butt and 933 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: like this girl, no one told me either, Like I 934 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like if I was in the 935 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: elevator with a girlfriend or not even a girlfriend, like 936 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: a stranger, like a chicken, I tell them. I would 937 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: tell her. Yea, maybe maybe they thought you wanted to 938 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: return it afterwards. No, yeah, maybe I was taking them 939 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: for a test drive. And yeah, I just like these 940 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: or whatever it's style boys leave like the stickers on 941 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: their heads. Exactly. It's the same thing, right, yeah, same thing. 942 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: The worst is I've actually worn a sweatshirt several times, 943 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: washed it several times, and then on the fourth fifth 944 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: time wearing it, realized it had the tag on it. 945 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well you could write for that brand 946 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: and say, hey, listen, the tags are durable. Yeah, that's 947 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: a good tag. Good material can go through like a 948 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 1: windstorm and they're fine a rainstorm. Okay, I'm super curious 949 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: about this one. Who is your celebrity crush, zac Efron? 950 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: You did not even hesitate? No high school? Did you 951 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: watched high school musical? Then? Yeah? He was like well, 952 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 1: I would say Jesse McCartney was probably like my first crush, 953 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: but zac Efron ever since has been a huge I 954 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: love him, love zach Efron. Okay, yeah, what is one 955 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: beauty trend that you rocked but wished you hadn't? Besides 956 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: the tag on the pants, I would say the bronze 957 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: were all over the face phase that we did once 958 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: upon a time where we didn't use bronze or just 959 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: for the cheeks. It was like all over for the 960 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: face as the setting powder, almost like I really wish 961 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: I didn't do that. I'm super super thin eyebrowsed you guys. 962 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, yeah, yeah. I'm still trying to back 963 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: What is what thing on your bucket list? Um? Can 964 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: it be careerly related? Yeah? Obviously yeah. Um, I would 965 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: say it's like attending a red carpet or being on 966 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: a red carpet. It's like such a major goal of mine, 967 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: even within this year. I would love to make that happen. Okay, 968 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: bucket listening, for sure, we will manifest that now. Yeah, 969 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: I love it. Well, that's that's a good question to 970 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: go out on because I want to leave it at 971 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: that because I really want to make this happen. Um, 972 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: but before we let you go, every week we share 973 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: our rose and our thorn of the week, which is 974 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 1: basically like our highlight, favorite moment and then low light. 975 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: So Michelle, do you want to start this off? Yes? 976 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: I will start this off. Um. My rose would be 977 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: that Nate ended up surprising me early to Minnesota. So 978 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: he was supposed to like drive up on Sunday, but 979 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: he ended up driving up on Thursday, And so when 980 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: I went to my family's house for dinner, I like 981 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: walked in. Give it Mama, hug and then when I 982 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: turned around, he was just that was a good surprise 983 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: him and Percy and my thorn would probably have to 984 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: be um, oh gosh, I think I'm trying to think 985 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: right now too. I'm like, oh gosh, I don't know. 986 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: Let's all talk about positivity and I'm like, what, Um, 987 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: I almost ran out of gas on the freeway, busy 988 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,919 Speaker 1: busy for my car didn't beat at me, so you know, yeah, 989 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: I got places to be Yes, all right, back, Well, 990 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: the biggest thorn you have, I feel like exactly I'm 991 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: having to complain about, you know, yeah for sure, Yeah, 992 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: who wants do you want to go back? Oh yeah, 993 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: I'll sort because I want to end with you, because 994 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: we always want to end with our guests. Perfect, So 995 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the thorn because I want to 996 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,439 Speaker 1: end on a good one. But thorn is I feel 997 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: like this is gonna be my thorn. Every week that 998 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,959 Speaker 1: I'm away from my dogs, but just being on the road, 999 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: like being super homesick for my dogs, it's been very, 1000 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: very difficult. But um to kind of make up for 1001 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: that as my rose. This week when I celebrated my birthday, 1002 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 1: I was able to see my mom. I was able 1003 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: to see Thomas's mom and sister and just spend that 1004 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: day in Washington, DC with my family, which was so 1005 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: so so special. I was so happy that they came 1006 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 1: out there. That's awesome. I thought you're gonna say Thornie 1007 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: didn't get at old card for your birthday yet? Oh yeah, 1008 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: I mean obviously that's gonna be my thorn every day 1009 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,919 Speaker 1: until Chipole sends me one. Okay, Chipole, all right, Alie, 1010 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: what about you hit us? Oh my gosh, I'll also 1011 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: start with a thorn so we can end on a 1012 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 1: happy note. Y'all told me this is a thing neat Nellie. Okay, No, 1013 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: not at all. Okay, Um, yeah, that's hard. I feel 1014 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: like I've been having a pretty good week. Um. I 1015 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: would say my thorn is maybe my anxiety. She's been 1016 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 1: she's been pretty active this week. Um yeah, but just 1017 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,760 Speaker 1: it's just like random. It's like sometimes just for no reason, 1018 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: you know. But um, and my rose. Can I say 1019 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 1: doing this like be Ye made it? Okay, I I 1020 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 1: love it. This has been so fun, This is awesome. 1021 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all for having me, of course. Well, Ali, it 1022 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: has been such a pleasure having you and I think 1023 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: this is a really good episode for anyone listening, but 1024 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: especially women, young women. UM to go and find you 1025 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: and check out your TikTok, your instagram and your podcast. 1026 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 1: So before we let you go, can you just direct 1027 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: everyone of where they can find you. Yeah. I appreciate 1028 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: that so much. Um. Well, obviously my podcast is available. 1029 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: It's called Girly Podcast, so it's on Apple podcast, um, Spotify, 1030 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: all the things, and obviously TikTok. My user name is 1031 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,240 Speaker 1: Ali underscoreost. Same with my Instagram and my YouTube channel. 1032 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: It's been my name pattywhere and I'll probably be there 1033 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: for you can't miss her. All right, Alie, thank you 1034 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. You're welcome back anytime. You 1035 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: have been such a pleasure and just an absolute gem. 1036 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: So thank you. You guys have been the sweetest. Thank 1037 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: you so much, so nice time to take care all right, well, Michelle, 1038 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: I absolutely love you. Thank you for another fun week. 1039 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: Thank you to Ali for joining us, come back anytime. 1040 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: I feel like we're soul sisters after that. 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