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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we have the

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<v Speaker 1>free agent frenzy, all the new signings, we discussed them all.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked XFL kickoff rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Fred, what do you think, man, I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean too. I'm really excited about. We got

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<v Speaker 1>legend lineup. We're taking baseball and football and mix them

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<v Speaker 1>in together. We got read Doddy stories and we got

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Landry swinging for the fences. It all starts right out.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets your gas man, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>On into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan, Paul sit

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<v Speaker 1>here with Fred Smoot and Santana mostin guys. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about in the production meeting girls basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on top of everything. It's the best basketball in

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<v Speaker 3>college right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, and I think it has.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot to do with you know, back in the

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<v Speaker 3>day Pat and Ewan played at Georgetown. Yeah, but he

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<v Speaker 3>would play his freshman year, sophomore year, junior year. So

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<v Speaker 3>we get we get a history now with the with

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<v Speaker 3>the girls. We just watched Angel Reese go against Ill

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<v Speaker 3>last year, like, so this is a this is I'm

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<v Speaker 3>turn into a trilogy. Alro So, I think right now

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<v Speaker 3>women's basketball has captured our imagination because one they stars

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<v Speaker 3>stay like two they repeatedly go to war against each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think this the romantic size part that we're

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<v Speaker 3>missing in the male's basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>I think one of the things we spoke about, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure how long ago this was. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it was me and you were sitting in the room

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<v Speaker 4>just talking about how how much of their.

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<v Speaker 2>Games have changed. You know what I mean? These women.

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<v Speaker 4>Nowadays their game is on the level of some men,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think they have to even be more. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess you can say critical about certain things that they

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<v Speaker 4>do like men have, you know, different ways of beating you.

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<v Speaker 4>They can out jump through you, dunk the ball, they

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<v Speaker 4>can do so many things.

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<v Speaker 2>These women have to be skilled. They have to have skill.

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<v Speaker 4>They have to be able to drive, they have to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to shoot, so that the game is transcendent.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's one of the things that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you watch the game, it pulls us into because

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<v Speaker 4>you see these women now they're elevating, and it's one

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<v Speaker 4>of the reasons why QB saying, Hey, Helen, come on

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<v Speaker 4>us VIC three, show me sluve.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think she should do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I think not only for the sake of the money

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<v Speaker 4>part of it. I mean, because who's to say she's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna make that in her career. With the w NBA,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't make much.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the problem with that. I do believe. I do believe.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they're a bigger star, so they getting these these

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<v Speaker 4>shoe deals.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're getting different.

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<v Speaker 4>She got to deal with Nike and she will be

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<v Speaker 4>able to make it over time.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that five million would be straight.

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<v Speaker 4>So it would be something that she can do something

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<v Speaker 4>with her family out the gate and not have to

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<v Speaker 4>worry about trying to do this over her career.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is how because w NBA wages it's terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Why these girls are staying in college. They make it

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<v Speaker 2>more when nil deals.

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<v Speaker 1>Also they go overseas Toney.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the way I think you blow up the

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<v Speaker 3>w n B A but also get them paid. I

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<v Speaker 3>had this thing I call high school proposal. Even when

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<v Speaker 3>we go to high school games, the girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Play and the boys play.

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<v Speaker 3>Because sometimes when I go to a Wizard game, by

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<v Speaker 3>the time I sit down for a little bit, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Game is over. Yeah, I'm serious, say it's the quickst

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<v Speaker 2>doing so much. Yeah, it's going quick.

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<v Speaker 3>So what if we went to a Wizards game, but

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<v Speaker 3>the Mystics play first and then the Wizards play session.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you feel the seat, Now you feel the se

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<v Speaker 4>plus I get like.

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<v Speaker 3>Six hours, four or five hours to be here, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>So think about how much eye buy from the concession

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<v Speaker 3>staying out, Think about my daughter watching the game, that

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<v Speaker 3>she's watching this game with me. I just think that's

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<v Speaker 3>the way to truly monetize it is to put it

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<v Speaker 3>in the high school format and make the girls play

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<v Speaker 3>before them.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to put a petition out man, all these ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's bright though, because honestly, bro, you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>know I haven't meant to missed this game yet, not

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<v Speaker 4>to say that I don't want to, but who goes.

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<v Speaker 2>To these games? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I watch them on TV right now and then you

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<v Speaker 4>can see the seats now it starting to get, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a little more full than they was before.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 1>What you read it like that, he's like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bread.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my Shakespearean voice, right, the Hamlet.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hamlet voice, all right, So we can't escape it, boys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a free agent frenzy and it's back. And we

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<v Speaker 1>got some theme music for it, the one that Fred

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<v Speaker 1>voted on. It's horror music. Yeah, why I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>the horror.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you know what, it's Free agency is so scared

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<v Speaker 3>because because you watch these guys be great somewhere else

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<v Speaker 3>and you automatically think they're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Great for you.

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<v Speaker 3>But one out of five free agents actually help your

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<v Speaker 3>team win. So at the end of the day, as

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<v Speaker 3>glorified as he is, and you know, some of these

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<v Speaker 3>guys signed a hundred million like think about it. For instance,

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<v Speaker 3>New York Giants signed Brian Burns, gave him a hundred

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>What if Brian Burns ain't a hundred million dollar pass rushing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's scary, but it's also satisfied, just like Halloween is.

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<v Speaker 2>Halloween is scary, but you know you're gonna get that

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<v Speaker 2>candy all day and it's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy over here, all right, Well, so these guys

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<v Speaker 1>aren't one hundred million dollar guys have just been signed.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Jeff Driscoll. I don't know how to say

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<v Speaker 1>his name. I just called him Oz when I played

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<v Speaker 1>with him, but Olama day Zakiyas, I'm sorry if that's wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and called him o Z. That's what we're gonna call him.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerryman Nichols and then Malachi Walker are the guys that's

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<v Speaker 1>signed here over the last couple of weeks since our

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<v Speaker 1>last show, and just high level, like what did you

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<v Speaker 1>think about these signings, Like what does this mean for

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<v Speaker 1>the team, and like what do the role these guys have?

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<v Speaker 2>Just keep it, I mean high level.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think one of the things that stands out

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<v Speaker 4>with all these guys you see in eight year veteran,

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<v Speaker 4>six year veteran, four year five you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they're veterans, They're guys that's going to be you know,

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<v Speaker 4>these guys have sweat equity in the game already. These

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<v Speaker 4>guys have played a number of years where they put

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<v Speaker 4>enough on film that these coaches say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>they we have a spot for them.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a spot for them to either.

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<v Speaker 4>Earn them a spot on this team or come in

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<v Speaker 4>here and compete and show, you know, this team and

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<v Speaker 4>what we are trying to you know, become. So I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's great because one of the things that we

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<v Speaker 4>talked about leading up until you know, the draft is

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<v Speaker 4>what we have to do is basically build a team

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<v Speaker 4>all over. I mean, we had twenty some odd guys

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<v Speaker 4>on the team, you know, under contract, so you have

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<v Speaker 4>to build that team. You have to build a base

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<v Speaker 4>of that team up, and I think these have just

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<v Speaker 4>added pieces to the base.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think when you gotta when you got a band,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody can't be Michael Jackson. Somebody gotta be t though, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the floor of the band has to be raised.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's when you when I look at these guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I say they raising the floor of this building. They

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<v Speaker 3>understand that we only good as the fifty third person

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<v Speaker 3>on the roster. The fifty third person on the roster

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<v Speaker 3>is a seven year of it that's been there, done

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<v Speaker 3>that really to play and the drop off a dime.

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<v Speaker 3>That tells me a lot about where the ceiling is going.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you raised the floor, the ceiling can only

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<v Speaker 2>get hired.

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<v Speaker 4>I think one thing too that stands out about seeing

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<v Speaker 4>some of the things that we've been doing here. I

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<v Speaker 4>talked a lot to you guys about how my ten

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<v Speaker 4>years here went to three playoffs. Yeah, you know it's

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<v Speaker 4>crazy that with the guys that we had ten years

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<v Speaker 4>only had three playoffs appearances, only one one game, one

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<v Speaker 4>playoff game in those ten years, and four years with

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<v Speaker 4>the Jets we went to three the same thing three

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<v Speaker 4>but that's in four years. Yeah, So we was going

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<v Speaker 4>automatically almost every year when I was with the Jets.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the things I noticed about that team.

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<v Speaker 4>I came in as a guy who they know that

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<v Speaker 4>they wanted to depend on. I got hurt my first year,

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<v Speaker 4>but they got a lot of us, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>the draft, like my year, the year before me, they

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<v Speaker 4>got colds, and those guys you had John Abraham, you

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<v Speaker 4>had Ellis Or you had Chad Peninsula, Ray mickens Day

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<v Speaker 4>was in the draft before me, you had me. Then

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<v Speaker 4>every draft they got some young talent. But when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to the base of our team, it was all veterans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and that one was one of the reasons why we

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<v Speaker 4>was going to the playoffs because you had guys you

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<v Speaker 4>just said it, guys that if somebody went down or

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<v Speaker 4>somebody wasn't ready, you had a veteran there that could

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<v Speaker 4>step in and be solid. I'm talking about he might

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<v Speaker 4>not be like you said, Michael Jackson or that Curtis

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<v Speaker 4>Martin all that. You know, that Wayne Quebec, but he

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<v Speaker 4>was solid enough that he can go out there and

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<v Speaker 4>get the job done.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Watching these guys strategically build his team together.

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<v Speaker 2>They're getting veterans, they're getting guys.

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<v Speaker 4>That have a leadership that's going to go out there

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<v Speaker 4>and like you said before, show some of these young

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<v Speaker 4>guys what it takes to be a pro and how

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<v Speaker 4>it is to be able to be one of those

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<v Speaker 4>role players to come in and just do your job.

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<v Speaker 2>You need that.

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<v Speaker 3>You need big shot Bob, you need Robert or you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like you know, when the star

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<v Speaker 3>but when you need me to make the play, I

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<v Speaker 3>will be there and I will be waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, like you know, I played with Oz when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Atlanta. Yeah, he was a rookie when

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<v Speaker 1>it was my last year there. And he's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I think he was like a lot. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's tough, he's competitive, kind of like what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy like he could come in and spot duty and

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<v Speaker 1>play a little bit. I played with Jeremy McNichols when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in San Francisco. Again, that guy that's always

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<v Speaker 1>he's always been the bride's baid, never the bride, like

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of on the fringe, but has played played

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee. Was a good third down back for them,

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<v Speaker 1>carried the ball well, So again, just a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>key is, yeah, he did. I think he returned kickoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind that he's kind of that body type, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of you know, he's six, he's five eight,

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<v Speaker 1>he's competitive, and I just you know, he played a

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<v Speaker 1>lot as a rookie and I thought he did a

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<v Speaker 1>really good job. And he's played a lot in Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>like relatively speaking, given the depth there. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>those are guys that are really interesting. Jeff Driscoll is

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<v Speaker 1>also interesting to me as a signing because he's a he's.

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<v Speaker 2>A veteran athletic quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>He's athletic quarterback. He's a veteran guy that again has

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<v Speaker 1>think about you're probably drafting a quarterback at two, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think having guys around him that have

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<v Speaker 1>played a lot, you know, like Jake from I like

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<v Speaker 1>Jake from a lot, but having guy with this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of experience, it's been in multiple systems, that could possibly

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<v Speaker 1>another another resource for a young quarterback going in. I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a pretty cool idea.

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<v Speaker 3>So every time you say Jake for I just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>It's very close, very close, It's very close. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it kind of speaks to the general philosophy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you talked about this too, and I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good point. Is I think Peters has

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to kind of build through the draft. But

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<v Speaker 1>The Well, so, Fred, you were starting talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>kickoff rule. Yeah, and so let's the new kickoff rules.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about that rule a little bit, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So the ball will be still be kicked from the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five yard line. That's not a change. Every player

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<v Speaker 1>on the kicking team, other than the kicker themselves is

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<v Speaker 1>will now line up with one foot on the team

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<v Speaker 1>on the returning team's fourty yard line. Yet right, ye,

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<v Speaker 1>during this new kickoff, no players can move until the

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<v Speaker 1>ball is fielded by the collar turn. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>the old XFL rule. And I think Fred, you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up a great point right at the gate. This now

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<v Speaker 1>makes the kickoff returner a relevant position you need on

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<v Speaker 1>the game. But how do you guys feel about this

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<v Speaker 1>rule change. I know it's a departure from tradition and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of football purists, at least in my experience,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a little bit critical of this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get your guys thoughts on.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to see it work.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, I saw a snippet of it watching

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<v Speaker 4>XFL a year ago, and it wasn't that many big returns.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you probably have two or three of them

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<v Speaker 4>ran back the entire spring. I guess you could say,

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<v Speaker 4>but you saw God be creative. And I remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I had a guy that I played with in New York,

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<v Speaker 4>Tory Woodbury.

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<v Speaker 2>He was I forgot the team that he was.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a special teams coach for now he's a

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<v Speaker 4>special teams coach here at Howard. Yeah, I was so

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<v Speaker 4>crazy that how you know for a circle he's back

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<v Speaker 4>in the area. But I remember him telling me. I

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<v Speaker 4>asked him about it. I'm like, bro, how did like,

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<v Speaker 4>how do you like that? He was like, man, got

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<v Speaker 4>to be creative. Like we're finding ways to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to use these guys like they're in the backfield. Like

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<v Speaker 4>it's basically like a running back getting the ball out

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<v Speaker 4>of the backfield. You have to bring guys from one side,

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<v Speaker 4>do different things, you know what I mean, try to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, get that to spring that kick or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just want to see it work. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to see how creative some of these special team gurus

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<v Speaker 4>are on this level and see we can get more

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<v Speaker 4>returns than two or three this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing about it is they want to see

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<v Speaker 3>the return just happen, and what what was getting in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL was I think maybe thirty to twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>percent even just raining the ball out right now with

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<v Speaker 3>their kicking rule in the AX fil this eighty five

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<v Speaker 3>percent return because most of the kicks they bringing them

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<v Speaker 3>out because for the return team it's in your favor

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<v Speaker 3>to bring it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's a penalty. Now the ball comes back out

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<v Speaker 1>to the thirdidah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it says, now let the return man return. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it just it brings another level to the game,

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<v Speaker 3>cause we know this offense defense very exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>But especially team got something very exciting about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it also shows you too that they're more worried about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, wanting to see the I guess you could

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<v Speaker 4>say the excitement part of it, then worried about a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Jeremy Reeves who who made his living running down

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<v Speaker 2>on kicks.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, Like, I think it takes

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<v Speaker 4>away from guys who really made a living out of

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<v Speaker 4>running down on kicks because now you put me in

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of mouths, they slowed the impact that no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>that's no doubt, no doubt, it's about safety. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just saying, like, how many guys this is going to

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<v Speaker 4>affect that was that was just you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>kickoff demon, you know what I mean. You know, we

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<v Speaker 4>had so many guys on our team that we knew that, Man,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna sit here and watch this kickoff because those

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<v Speaker 4>guys sitting in the middle of a thing, I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's gonna go peel somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I want to walk. I'm gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be interesting to me just to see what

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<v Speaker 4>it takes from those guys who may live in just

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<v Speaker 4>doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I see when I was watching the XFL

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<v Speaker 1>and I was covered. This was back when during COVID

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just a couple of years ago now. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that stuck out to me is

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it makes those special teams guys more

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<v Speaker 1>relevant because this is a play that was almost completely dead,

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<v Speaker 1>like you could get away, like you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>Joey slide Like one of the things like his superpower

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<v Speaker 1>was they they had no returns allowed this year because

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<v Speaker 1>he just kicked them all out the back of the end.

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<v Speaker 1>So now those guys, you could put anybody out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I could go out there and cover a kick. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need to be Sean Taylor, Logan Paulson who's terrible

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<v Speaker 1>at covering kicks and no one would even know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think, like now you're trying to promote

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<v Speaker 1>that this play is relevant again, You're gonna get guys

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<v Speaker 1>who have special teams value. The back end roster guys

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<v Speaker 1>are not just gonna be who's the best four string

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers like who also can play teams. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it helps, It adds value to guys in my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>after watching the XFL two guys like Jeremy Reeves, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is the same format that you do when you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it in practice. People forget that, like you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the same skill set that you're utilizing when you're covering

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<v Speaker 1>kicks in practice the using games. It's just again, like

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<v Speaker 1>Fred said, the impacts not quite.

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<v Speaker 4>I get your point too, because I wasn't looking at

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<v Speaker 4>it like this, because you know it's it's we always prided, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>those guys on the team, especially the kickoff team, to

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<v Speaker 4>be in a run. And so now if you're not

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<v Speaker 4>a runner, but you still make you can tackle tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ain't, you ain't got to worry about your running.

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<v Speaker 2>We gonna put you right here.

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<v Speaker 4>You know up front and when that guy get the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>go make a play. So I get your point with that.

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<v Speaker 3>This this, I think it opened up the NFL to

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<v Speaker 3>say welcome back to the Mike Sellers and the rock

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<v Speaker 3>Cock rights of the world, the people who made their

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<v Speaker 3>living on special teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it makes it more relevant. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think you could get away with having bad guy like

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<v Speaker 1>bad relative term here, bad guys covering kicks and bad

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<v Speaker 1>guys on the return team because it just wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>thing you had to do very often. And now something

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to put some time in on to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, get created from a coaching standpoint, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got to teach skills. Now you got to teach skills

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<v Speaker 1>on how we're gonna block this, how we're gonna return this.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta have a guy who's gonna hit this, because

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<v Speaker 1>say what you want about the blocks, that returner still's

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<v Speaker 1>got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, you gotta know he still gotta he still gotta

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<v Speaker 2>hit that. He's still gotta be the toughest part.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when I'm watching it was like pulling tea last

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<v Speaker 4>year watching the XFL, cause I'm like, you can't. It's

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<v Speaker 4>no right way to hit it like you gotta go full.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta be patient one or the other. You know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying, And so it's not I say I'm

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm gonna pay attention from the standpoint I want

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<v Speaker 4>to see the return part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I understand the part of what you make.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the point you're making about you don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to be a guy that's you know, that can run

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<v Speaker 4>fast and get down.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you're gonna have to because returners are

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<v Speaker 3>usually fast. And if you know, we all want bad

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<v Speaker 3>angle from getting dusty.

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<v Speaker 2>But this right here, now you know, it's no angle.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you're right here, Like the only thing you

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<v Speaker 4>can do is block a guy will If you can block,

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<v Speaker 4>you can make sure you get that behind in that hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So you be like and be tight because.

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<v Speaker 3>But if one of them returners hit that thing running

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<v Speaker 3>and like, think about it, we go, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>a small burst. You're gonna wait till he catch it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna burst, but then you're gonna have to break down.

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<v Speaker 3>So that small burst and then you get to the breakdown. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I got to find the runner that's gonna it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be different. I'm gonna need them to be chasers. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna need my kickoff team to be great chase.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you watch the XFL and you saw what

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<v Speaker 4>I was because I paid coach.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we went to together, we went to a

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<v Speaker 2>cup of game.

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<v Speaker 4>It just seemed like it was a bunch of just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be the ball of me down right here,

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<v Speaker 4>because they ain't going nowhere until one or two guys

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<v Speaker 4>burst one.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know I had.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things they showed when they made the

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<v Speaker 1>rule announcement is the teams in the XFL that were

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<v Speaker 1>the most creative, so they were running you know, reversus

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<v Speaker 1>counters and then all of a sudden it takes it

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think about it, this is this is nerdy

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<v Speaker 1>football talk, but essentially right now it plays like the

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<v Speaker 1>run duo just blocking straight right and you're asking somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to win on the hole, which is tough, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the teams that were successful, they

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<v Speaker 1>were running it like power and counter on the outside zone.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can get that kind of line of

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmage action there, you can get a pretty dynamic runner.

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<v Speaker 1>So's it'll be interesting to see what it turns into

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really glad from a football standpoint that the play

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<v Speaker 1>is now relevant that I actually have to watch the play.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to like literally, I record the game and

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<v Speaker 1>buzz throll on the TV copy. I wouldn't even stop

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<v Speaker 1>because it's going to be a touchback, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to commercial. I don't care, right, but now I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta watch it. I gotta watch play and so, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to help guys again, like the

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<v Speaker 1>keyst guys who have some returnability to find a home

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<v Speaker 1>on a team and running back, and they might be

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<v Speaker 1>different skill sets than what we're traditionally accustomed to, but

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<v Speaker 1>you better be able to shock and shed get to

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<v Speaker 1>that football and make a tackle. So I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 1>that one. The other one that I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit maybe more controversial because I actually think people

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<v Speaker 1>are coming around on the kickoff thing, is the hip

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<v Speaker 1>drop tackle. And this one, to me seems like it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>Just tail us defensive players not show up. Just tail

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<v Speaker 2>us not show up anymore. But you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>tackle like that though we already listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you saw some of the tackles that

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<v Speaker 4>day was basically highlighting saying you can't do bro, It's obvious, like, Bro,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna hurt somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the reason I'm jumping on your back is

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<v Speaker 3>because you gotta step on me already.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you get a jump.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so let's be clear, I can still tack

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<v Speaker 1>you from behind. I can still I can still do

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<v Speaker 1>a hip drop, like I can still tackle that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to be clear, Australian rules rugby took this

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<v Speaker 1>tackle out last year or two years ago, and everything's

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<v Speaker 1>been fine. It's a very specific action. It's two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>plays from last year's NFL. It's not anytime I'm behind

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<v Speaker 1>you I tackle you. It's not me tackling you and

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<v Speaker 1>flunging your legs. It's when you are dragging me and

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<v Speaker 1>I intentionally drop my weight onto your legs, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a play so fun that if you tackle correctly, it

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>This tackle came because of one day in queenn Do

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<v Speaker 3>y'all not remain a melma. It's it's Seattle. They stole

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<v Speaker 3>it to what they call alligator.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a gat role, which is a different tackle than this.

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<v Speaker 3>But it started because we couldn't hit we couldn't hit

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<v Speaker 3>high no more.

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<v Speaker 2>So one rule change for this rule.

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<v Speaker 1>Change, it was it wasn't. It wasn't because the high.

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<v Speaker 1>It was because of the helmet to helmet cond So

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<v Speaker 1>they went and they consulted with the rugby leagues and

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<v Speaker 1>the way rugby league's coaches. So like traditional like high school,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, you're out there, it's like get.

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<v Speaker 2>Your head across the ball. Across the ball, yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got to get Now with a alligator tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>your hat goes behind the ball, but you get into

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<v Speaker 1>an alligator role. And if you don't get the role

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<v Speaker 1>right away, you're gonna fall in the dude to like probably, look, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is what I'm saying. So one rule a birth the

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<v Speaker 2>other one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But so ultimately, let me just say this, I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that the rule on helmet to helplet contact makes

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<v Speaker 1>players safer, allows player to have longer, healthier lives post football,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think that that is an important rule.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an interesting rule because now it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it's a consequence of that initial rule change.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know because like when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the so they did the thing on the NFL Network

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<v Speaker 1>where they showed clips that they thought were hip drops

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<v Speaker 1>that actually weren't hip drops. So even people who are

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<v Speaker 1>who know what they're looking for are having a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time identifying a sackle. So that's the thing. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's happened so quick, so like, are you gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>call it if someone gets hurt?

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<v Speaker 2>People have made that tackle and guys got up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. I've been hip dropped a ton of my career.

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<v Speaker 2>To Roy Williams was good at that.

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<v Speaker 4>He was doing it a different way though he would

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<v Speaker 4>come dah.

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<v Speaker 1>He got He was the guy that I heard the

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<v Speaker 1>horse call. Yeah. So I just think I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a I appreciate the NFL's response and motivation to make

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<v Speaker 1>the game safer, and I think it's still pretty physical game,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you watch games on Sunday, like like there's

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<v Speaker 1>still big hits. Guys have adapted to the tackling rules.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know how you give this to the

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<v Speaker 1>officials and be like, hey, this is super subjective legislature.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what I did here because I was complaining

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<v Speaker 1>to something about this, is that the NFL is actually

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<v Speaker 1>not going to encourage refs to call this penalty unless

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<v Speaker 1>it's very obvious they're going to find players post game

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<v Speaker 1>right to kind of get.

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<v Speaker 2>It out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know what you think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I don't know. It seems like it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like me going through a light and I know

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<v Speaker 4>I stopped at delight and then you're gonna get me

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<v Speaker 4>a ticket in the middle, Like, I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a flag if I did some wrong, don't

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<v Speaker 2>make me get home. And I look at my locker.

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<v Speaker 2>I got this dog on thing. You got, fine, give

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<v Speaker 2>me five pouts. So that's I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all appreciate they're trying to make the

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<v Speaker 1>game safe for the players. I just don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know how you call this play.

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<v Speaker 2>I like trying to take the body slam out of rest.

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<v Speaker 2>It just can't. Sorry but I did.

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<v Speaker 1>But you but you know, but you didn't hip drop tack.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say to me, hip drop tackling

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<v Speaker 2>is a very.

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<v Speaker 4>Specific thing, and it's a lot of these guys and

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<v Speaker 4>you see nowadays who catch who catch tackle?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like to me, I think those are the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that you you say.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, bro got a hit you gotta tackle because I

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<v Speaker 4>see a lot of linebackers waiting for the guy to

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<v Speaker 4>get on the side.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna jump on the back of and

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<v Speaker 2>try to pull them down.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you want to highlight those guys, yes, because

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's the only time you see this

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<v Speaker 4>tackle being made, or if it's someone that's just so

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<v Speaker 4>so awkwardly tackled a guy and he didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 4>this guy is strong, and the guy started getting carried

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<v Speaker 4>and he's like, oh, I got to save myself because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna look bad on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>So you right, My hip tackling didn't come with dB.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean with WHI receive was a running back. It

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<v Speaker 3>came with tight ends.

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<v Speaker 2>It came with bigger because tight ends are.

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<v Speaker 3>So damn I need to I need to use everything

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<v Speaker 3>I got and so I'm grabbing you, gonna match me

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<v Speaker 3>grabbing you, you dragging me, And now I got a

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<v Speaker 3>hollow shine.

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<v Speaker 2>I need you because I need to get you down.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to be clear, like you can still drop

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<v Speaker 1>your hip to tackle, I just can't drop on your

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<v Speaker 1>less And so it's a the march seems like line.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll figure it out. They always do.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, whoa, here we go. So, so what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do today is we're going to make

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<v Speaker 1>a roster of veterans.

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<v Speaker 2>A baseball lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball lineup, and so I don't know that much about baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>but our producer, Jason, just a guy. Jason did a

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<v Speaker 1>great job of getting this all set up. So basically

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<v Speaker 1>what he's done is he said, we're going to make

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<v Speaker 1>like a hitting lineup for baseball, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>put kind of Washington legends in there. So number one

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the hitting lineup is a consistent hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm on above average speed, gets on base, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of what we're looking for. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>read off each position as we go down, just to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of give some clarity. Let's start with number one here.

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<v Speaker 1>Who kind of fits that mold? Do you think in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the storied history of the Washington franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm my leadoff hitter, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta we all gotta be on the same page

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<v Speaker 1>with this.

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<v Speaker 2>My lead off here is Dayre Green.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait above every speed he gonna get on the base,

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<v Speaker 3>he gonna allow the next hitter to make sure, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I want, I want the first gown base to be

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<v Speaker 3>a base stealing threat.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't he like isn't he like? He's like a

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<v Speaker 1>home run guy though, because he's made big plays interceptions time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really, maze, Hey he more speed, Like once I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on the bags, now you gotta watch him.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Darrel, is that second base he could steal third?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Now he becomes a legit threat for the second hitter

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<v Speaker 3>because the second hitter is a power hitter, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So second hitter is the best contact hitter, has good

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<v Speaker 1>back control, surgeon with the bats, so.

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<v Speaker 3>That means the ball wheel get it into the field

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<v Speaker 3>with this guy. And if I got Dale green Lee,

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<v Speaker 3>now I got a threat to go in and score

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So are we actually Jason, I got a question for

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<v Speaker 1>you can kind of here for a second. Are we actually,

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of are we saying this is the based

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<v Speaker 1>on athletic traits? Yes, so we're trying to do or

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<v Speaker 1>are we saying based on play style while they were here?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking it's pretty serious, guys. I'm taking it's pretty serious.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think both things could be right. I

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<v Speaker 2>like that. When I heard it, I put myself there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I said, you know, because the first thing stood

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<v Speaker 4>out was consistent hitter. And when I think a consistent

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<v Speaker 4>hitter and a football terminology, it's a guy that's moving

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<v Speaker 4>the chains consistently with my physician, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like, okay, when it was a first

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<v Speaker 4>down need to be made, even when I was long

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<v Speaker 4>into two and I was a third down guy coming in,

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<v Speaker 4>I was in the I was in the option of

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<v Speaker 4>getting the ball movie changed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a guy I remember, like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>played cards in the off season with and Trail Row,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and Trail's and you guy he was younger

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<v Speaker 4>than me, but he played with the Giants and he

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<v Speaker 4>was like he's like, Tanny, you know what I hate, man.

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<v Speaker 4>You know when you moved to the slot. We've been

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<v Speaker 4>getting ready for y'all games. And I dB coach would

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<v Speaker 4>tell of young guys, don't get don't get side traded

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 4>and see eighty nine coming in the game and think he's

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 4>he's no longer eighty nine. He not still gonna move

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 4>the chains on you. So don't be that guy. And

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 4>he said, I be damn third down, you got a

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 4>first down, he said. The coach is shaking his head

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 4>at So I laughed when I had those conversations with guys,

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 4>because I never considered myself as still like being a

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 4>guy that you talked about in your locker room year twelve,

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 4>thirteen and fourteen. And I'm in the slot and I'm like,

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm coming in third down. But so when I saw this,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 4>I said, Oh, that's me. That's the guy that's gonna

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 4>get on base and let.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Everybody else do that. I can live with that. I

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>could live with Santana.

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Like like Brigands or somebody like just the guy who's

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna be consistent, like cloud of dust, gut on there.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not my leadoff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're like, so we're not talking play style here.

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>We're talking more.

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<v Speaker 5>Like we're mixing the athlete and the play stoff the place.

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<v Speaker 5>I like both those. Okay, all right, so leadoff. I

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 5>mean either one is fine.

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 4>It's no wrong the right answer. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 4>just us saying who we like at des spot.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Number two, best contact hitter who has good

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<v Speaker 1>back control, Surgeon with the bat. I don't know it's

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>because he said surgeon, but I think Surgeon is.

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<v Speaker 2>The number one thing standing out in my head.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna start this one off. I'm gonna say, d

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Hall give you my example why. And like I said,

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 4>we just trying to them into what they do.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>He also played baseball. NY worry about d Hall.

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 2>So and one of the things about go ahead.

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember during the lockout year? I remember d

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>We're having a meeting with the n f L p

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>A and we're all talking about what we're gonna do

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and how we're gonna save this money, and we had

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>this emergency fun if it early long and everyone's taking

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it really serious, and the Hall says, he stands up

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and says, I just go play baseball in the MLB.

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.479
<v Speaker 1>And I was like what, And he's very good baseball.

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Like, he's a hell of

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 2>an athlete. I know, like, didn't you play basketball to

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 2>you can, but.

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 3>This is one of the best, one of the better

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 3>athletes I've been around. I think I have been around

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<v Speaker 3>some like class A athletes like class A.

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 4>So when okay, they have number two best best contact hitter,

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 4>I think and I'm not so so I'm not trying

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 4>to say that he was a good hitter when it

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 4>came to football, but when it comes to his position

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 4>being a cornerback. Yeah, the things that stood out to

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 4>me about d Hall he was a surgeon and what he.

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Did best and this says a surgeon with the bat.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 4>He was a surgeon at dissecting and when the when

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 4>they jumped that dog on interception. So I think of him,

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 4>he's a he's a perfect guy for that, you know

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 4>that fit, you know that criteria that just he was

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 4>one of those guys that don't try him over there

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 4>because he's.

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Good at what he does and he's going for show,

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>make it hurt for you, and.

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna get a good outfeel to too. You might

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 3>want to put him in shortstop. So he was I

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 3>can dig d hout right there.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I seeking like Sonny Jergensen because the surgeon, you know,

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.959
<v Speaker 1>like that kind of precision elemental. Okay, yeah, like like

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the Hall is a better athlete than say no offense

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>to Sunday. But you know all right, okay number three,

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>this is easy all around best hitter, contact power smart

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in London here, what would you do?

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 5>I was going Sean Taylor there as opposed to power,

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 5>scary window come on that.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>That you get. I seen the scary you can read

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 2>a little more.

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>But when I say when I see it all around,

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 3>when I see it all around, I think that's what

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 3>brought me to Sean because.

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 4>But London was an athlete. London was a point guard

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 4>in basketball. You can run better than the average and told.

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>You to Washington dinastay. London is on that getting then interception.

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>He can interceptions. He does spin move. He showed you

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 2>young London. He almost got Tom Brady fire.

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>So I enjoy that I can dig London there because

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 3>we are gonna push on Taylor the scary guy.

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a scary guy power he's a yeah, so what

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>is it? Hits hits the diggers makes the other team scared.

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say Truent Williams for this one. Honestly,

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>he's a freaking yeah, he's a freaking dude. But Sean Taylor,

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Trent Williams kind of that freak athlete that fits in

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that spot, the guy that I mean Like, so for Trent,

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously everyone knows Sean Taylor, but for Trent,

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.719
<v Speaker 1>like he was that dude. Man. You remember him run

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>down on screens, getting out in the front, setting the tone.

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever played basketball with dude? I remember walking with.

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Him when he told me he played running back as

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 4>a kid. I said, yeah, he was. He just grew

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 4>up one day. He got older one day and it

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 4>got bigger.

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>And my favorite thing about Trent ever is him making

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>tackles and interceptions, like because he would run down, he'd

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>run past people, sink his hips and like light dudes up.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:37.479
<v Speaker 1>And I said, oh, man, like, where'd you learn how

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to do that? He's like I used to cover punts

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>in college. He used to cover punts in college.

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 2>What like a Dalius Thomas was a gunner?

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? Man? Like?

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 2>He's an athlete. Man.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I remember walking up playing the Baltimore in my first

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 3>year and I as a coloner, I have to block

0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 3>the gunner for the point. And Jed, I mean my coach,

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, we're gonna put up this lineback out

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 3>there with you to help you.

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Like for what, because you're gonna have to block a dish.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>To watch film?

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 2>You're telling me, no, no, this is before the week store.

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, all right, that's fine because I

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:13.959
<v Speaker 3>knew a day he's from Mississippi.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 2>And they were like, no, he is the gunner and

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 2>he's the best gunner in the NFL. And I was like,

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>my god, what have I got myself?

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 4>Here?

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 5>Was he?

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 2>He was like big, six hundred and fifty pounds, ran

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a four.

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Four forty playing college like Blacker him him.

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 3>All these boys was at us at the same time. Uh,

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 3>Pat Curtain a, Dlius Thomas.

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 3>They had like seven pros, TJ. Slaughter, Oh got like

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 3>they was all the top Easton. They was all at

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 3>the school at the same exac time.

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty wild. That was like when like Greg Hardy

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>or like even when Darren Waller was playing gunner, Like

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Darren Waller is like six two yes, covering down there anyway,

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>So we got a little side track. So five hit

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>her in the fifth spot is a contact with some

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>pop like number three, but just a little less inability.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I gotta read Doddie doubting. I gotta read Doddy some love.

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>You hit me.

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 4>He would have and won't and won't blink, you know,

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:16.280
<v Speaker 4>and but you put him in space.

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I was you know, read was money. We was DB's again.

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 3>And see people don't stay read. Were hearing Nate and

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 3>people didn't know he couldn't hear.

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>You tell his story all the time. Every time we talk.

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 3>About He used to get so mad at me. You know,

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm not the type of guy that played tricks doing

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 3>the game.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 2>You play tricks in the game, you know.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 3>I get to the huddle and read a look at

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 3>me because he won't on me to tell him to call,

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 3>and I just I.

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Do this with my lips and I'd be.

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, making those sounds, no sound, what's the call?

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Was such a good dude. You were just making that

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>guy and he was probably like young when you played

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>with him.

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but but but listened. Would go to the wall

0:34:58.120 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 2>for you.

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Though with his body said percent. He leave him by

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:02.720
<v Speaker 3>to be a bit of two percent.

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 2>He used to give his body.

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I remember him tackling Brandon Jacobs, like just throwing his

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>soul into the tackle. They come out with like a

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>broken stern up and then play play the rest of

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the game. Dude.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 4>For all our fans that listen to this, y'all, y'all

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 4>give a special shot to read make sure y'all tag

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 4>him on this podcast because we got to get read

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 4>out more Flowers. Man, he was one of those guys

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 4>that you know how like when you're on the team

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 4>with guys keeps the team together. It's not even that

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 4>it's like I told you how it was with guys

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 4>like you might not I might not share nothing with you.

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I had love for I would look at like,

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>you know what, but that worked. I think I invite

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 2>him to my house with dinner, like he's one of

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 2>those and we Re showed up with a neck break.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the neck row. The netro that's right, had

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>a cracked up. Dude. He was crazy, man. He was

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>not like a big guy.

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 4>In rep right, bro, but he threw his body or around.

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, Re said, I got one way to make it.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 2>He would have been great with his defense. The defense.

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 2>He would have been great with his defense.

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>No doubt anybody else that kind of fits that.

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 5>Well.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I got another read tight end read Jordan Reed. Jordan's

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh Jordan Reed.

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Reed is one of the biggest Washington football ifs ever.

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I just think this dude talent was through the roof,

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 3>like I think highly the guy.

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he was, you know, outside of Santana,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe the best route runner that I played with my career.

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you what I'm saying, but like the type

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>of guy, like I remember him doing one on ones

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>with the DB's. I remember, this is not to hate

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>on Josh s. Norman. He came to the first practice.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Josh Norman is this guy just made all this money,

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>all this part. Remember that he's bawling in Carolina. It's

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>his first day of practice. And Jordan's like, all right,

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>let's do one on ones. And it's like kind of like, no,

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you're a tight end. And Jordan gets out there.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, dangate Adams.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 3>When I watched Adams him and joyed rerun the round

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 3>like basketball.

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Players patient, Yeah, just how to set you up?

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 1>All right?

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 2>So number six, y'all gonna laugh with this one.

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Swings for the fences, swings out of his shoes will

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>strike out a lot.

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 3>I got run Landry, that's my dog.

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>But that damn Landry gonna here. You're gonna knock you out.

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:26.760
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna miss, You're gonna hit the TV. Landry.

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>That's funny, so funny.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I talked to l Run two weeks ago.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Real, I'm having call in on one should so we're

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:35.760
<v Speaker 3>gonna get him back in the fold.

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 2>But you hit this from right on the road. That

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 2>damn you know what?

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.240
<v Speaker 4>You know what always stands out to me him getting

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 4>that Djack that game against the first game of the season,

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 4>talking that crap.

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:49.959
<v Speaker 2>With DJA and the first player of the game. Look,

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 2>they did this to that boy, and that boy came

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>up running.

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>And is the post safety like that?

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Why did you bite him back there?

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Man? Also, I know Lauren gets a lot of hate

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 1>for that play specifically, but my rookie year, that dude

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>was on pace to be defensive MVP. I think through

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 1>like six games he had like one hundred and five tackles,

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>two interceptions, and five sacks.

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 2>That was through like eight games.

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 4>And what I'm saying, you remember people, people forget that

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 4>like he was like when he was on he was

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 4>on Offen say this hateful to run that he didn't

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 4>get a chance to have Sean, because if he had Sean,

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 4>the Holy Team would have.

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Made his career.

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 4>Like having Sewn Kase, Sean would no longer got to

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 4>play strong. Just let let the run go up and

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 4>do what he want to do. He want to, he

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 4>want to, He want to go in there and eat.

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 4>He want to go out there and tackle. Seawn could

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:43.240
<v Speaker 4>have played that center field, and he was a strong

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.879
<v Speaker 4>safety naturally, but he was a hell of a cover

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 4>safety too.

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 2>He would go sideline aside.

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 3>At the time, you're talking me Sean Streams, Collos Rogers,

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Sean Taylor run. You can't get too many defensive backfields

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>like no, then we add a d hall in the

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 3>middle of it, like you gotta realize when we stepped

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.439
<v Speaker 3>like my DV coach, like, I ain't got to do muhing, listen,

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna put whatever five of.

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Y'all I wanted.

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 4>No One was so sad about that because as a receiver,

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 4>I see this every day and I'm like, how in

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 4>the hell they getting beat? And then look up at

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 4>our front line. We ain't got nobody, nobody getting out

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 4>to the quarterback. I mean it was at one time.

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 2>I sat there. I told you, I waited for Dee.

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 4>Hall come off the field, and de Hall came off

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 4>like he was like pissed, and I said, bro, I

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 4>counted the rocks rest Wes Welker ran eight different routes

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 4>to get open, and Tom was just sitting there waiting.

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.760
<v Speaker 2>The Hall had covered him so long somewhere he couldn't

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>cover him no more. And then he got open and the.

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 4>Boot touchdown and I said, d All, that one't your fuck, bro,

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.439
<v Speaker 4>No one's putting pressure on this quarterback. So I hate

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 4>to the fact that we had so much talent in

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 4>our secondary man, and we just ain't have No, we

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:53.760
<v Speaker 4>ain't have a good enough rush didn't come together.

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I like that one though. That's probably the best one

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>so far. All right, seven, you're okay, nothing great, but

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>everything you do everything, well.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's me, is it you? I'm gonna say that

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>something like that, I say, I put Kejr. Ghost.

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say Ketj put Ketch you.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 4>I think he was just solid man, like he was

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 4>one of those guys who you know, they didn't give

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 4>him no credit, but he was every time you put

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 4>him in the game.

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 2>He made a play, Yeah, made a play.

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Was excellent at that, Like he was just such a

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>good leader, very solid.

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 4>Another one I got Rocky mcintized, Rocky mcintize, because nothing.

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Makes me feel better than walking to hudder and look

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:33.320
<v Speaker 3>around and Rocky smile.

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 4>I still I still laugh at the story that London

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 4>gave me with Rocky. He said, I have to tell

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 4>you this story one day about rock You know, Rocky

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 4>and Hurricane. He said, Man, you know you know as

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 4>a linebacker. You know I watched so much to whereas

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 4>that if I see something go different, i'ma I'm gonna

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 4>do it.

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna call a play.

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 4>That's gonna benefit that up because of it, because we

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 4>know it we ran in the week before or whatever.

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 2>He say. Man, I ain't trying to put your boy

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 2>on it. I ain't trying to put him out there.

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 2>He say. I told Rocky, hey, we're gonna do this,

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 2>do this because they keep doing it. Rocky saying, no,

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 2>we ain't go We ain't go over.

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>There this week.

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing what coach said, these ain't Rocky, we done

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.760
<v Speaker 2>ran it before, not this week. We ain't doing any practice.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 2>He said. Rocky would not go outside of the box.

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Tell him. So it was just funny.

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.280
<v Speaker 4>Else it was funny because I remember me and Reggie

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 4>doing that in college. So you know, for you know,

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 4>we played together four years, you know as true freshman's.

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 4>You know, Reggie started as a true freshman. I came

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 4>in on third downs as a slot receiver, and then

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 4>next year I started at the Z and still played slot.

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 2>So Reggie got tired of like we just not up

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 2>on the same side. We just do.

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 4>Everybody knows Reggie's on the ball and was off the ball.

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 4>So we got to the point that every time we

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 4>came in till we was doing Zacha zip Zacha zipp

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 4>would be like zach to the other side of zip

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 4>to the short side. There was emotions and when we

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 4>had like you know, a bunch of formations or something,

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 4>instead of Reggie taking the ball, you take the Ballggie

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.800
<v Speaker 4>come over. So CJ, our receiver coach, which is the

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.080
<v Speaker 4>head coach of the Houston team right now, are for

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 4>the UFL.

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 2>CJ got mad.

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 4>He got us on the phone. Bro, say b you know,

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 4>he from New Orleans, say, Bro, what y'all doing out there?

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 4>And reggis like, calm down. He made the play, right,

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 4>He's I just don't want the other guys to get

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 4>confused and say, no, we're letting everybody know that me

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 4>and Tan are gonna switch positions to try to get

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 4>other guys over.

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said, you y'all, y'all made it. Y'all, y'all

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 2>don't need me no more. You know what I'm saying.

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 4>And it was just funny because once you watched the film,

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 4>you realize that we really was out there, you know,

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 4>playing chess instead of checking.

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>You do that on your own own. That's unbelievable because

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, like Kyle would spend like days formation trying

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to twitch a bitch and get and you guys just

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>said we was to the point.

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Where we played as freshmens, we dominated a freshmans, we

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 4>had great sophomore season, we had our junior year, and

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:45.399
<v Speaker 4>le's go ahead and play with these guys.

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 4>You know we're gonna make you think a little more

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 4>because now you know you can't just say ready to

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 4>X ten of disease.

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Them gonna tell us the truth?

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, Okay, So we're on eight now eight and

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that is you're here for defense. Not a good hitter,

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>but you an excellent fielder.

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 2>So I don't even That's where I got stuck at. Yeah,

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>like it's you like I didn't have a guy because

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I ain't got to be a defensive with

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 2>offensive prowise.

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>But how are you defensive player with offensive? You got

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 1>something Jason we got.

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Was of a defensive player with offensive Sean Taylor had

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 3>off Champ Bailey.

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Receiving yours and rushing yards.

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 6>Maybe you could look at it as a guy that

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 6>did one thing exceptionally well, like that was his thing.

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Andre Cottle, Dude, what arens Alexander.

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Games?

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm saying.

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 2>He just was like he don't fit that because he

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 2>was he was great.

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>That we like the special like the special team's ability,

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Like he just was a

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>he's a dude.

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Let's go Mike Sales here because Mike, I'm just here. Indeed,

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.800
<v Speaker 2>his he did what he great? Like Mike for that,

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Mike Sales.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's one number nine speed demon.

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 3>Not a right hitter, heyst town of number one in

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 3>the leadoff. It's gotta be dyrel great, No, but it don't.

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>But it's a great hitter, but.

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Can't fly like this is need somebody who is like

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 2>arms We need somebody Armstrong.

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 4>We need somebody who wasn't great at that position, but

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 4>was great when it came to just running by you.

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>So you got to look at the whole thing. So

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Darryl Green was great, you know what I'm saying, all right,

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 2>all around great.

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>So we need a guy who wasn't what's his first name?

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Armstrong? Yeah, Armstrong, who you're talking about? Go with the

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 2>return guy?

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>That was thanks dude, Armstrong. Dude, this is this star

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:33.840
<v Speaker 1>about Armstrong.

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 2>So we used to do fly.

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>So Armstrong can't remember his first name, Brandon Banks. Yeah,

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry about that, but he used We used to

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>do flying. You could run into the kickoff, right, and

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>so Danny Smith used to measure forty times to see

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.879
<v Speaker 1>how it was a flying forty Anthony Armstrong, great, dude, Sorry,

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>remember your first name, Anthony. But anyways, she used to

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>do flying forty times. I remember we're in a meeting

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.959
<v Speaker 1>one time and he's going over everyone's flying forty times,

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>so like mine's like a four eight, you know, like

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 1>it's like my normal forty times slow. And he gets

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>to Anthony, who was the number two, and you know what,

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>it was if you can guess it, it was like

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:10.280
<v Speaker 1>for two it was a three seventh. I know, it's crazy,

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 1>it was My dude could straight.

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Listen.

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 4>You remember in twenty ten, man, when he became the

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:20.280
<v Speaker 4>starter at Z had like a thousand.

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, he had nine hunred I had.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 4>I had a thousand that year he had nine hundred,

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 4>and I was mad because I'm like, this was gonna

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 4>get him paid, you see what I'm saying. And I'm like, bro,

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 4>and he I remember had that conversation. I was like, Bro,

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 4>it's all you needed that thousand because you know these

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 4>teams are look at that and be like, well he

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 4>just got a thousand yards. We gotta pay him like

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 4>a one a thousand yard receiver, you know. And he

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 4>ended up going to the Cowboys next year?

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Was that the next year?

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? The next year he didn't come back and they

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:44.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't even use him.

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Man, I'm like that dude could straight fly. Brandon Banks

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and fly. Did you play with anybody like that? Listen?

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Man? Hey, my generation was speed personified.

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 4>I got a great story about Brandon. So you know,

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 4>Brandon is just going straight out fly little dude, So.

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.359
<v Speaker 1>You have to use you know, three the servet forty

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>started to cut you off.

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't hear it.

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>So we were we were. He was here for he

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 1>was a trial and we were at their same rookie municamp.

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>We came at the same time. So they said, hey,

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody who's not a priority for agent has to come

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.720
<v Speaker 1>out and run a forty if they want. So Brandon

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>is fully spatted up. Just finished practice, mind you, okay

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>on that turf outside the astro turf. He ran up

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:27.240
<v Speaker 1>four two four two four and spatted cleats on astro

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>turf after practice.

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:34.320
<v Speaker 2>He could fly, but don't thee Star wars fly to.

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he can fly to So no, no getting back

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 4>to Brandon. So he was running these kickoff he kept

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.879
<v Speaker 4>breaking them. And I remember when I was with the Jets,

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I had a guy named Jonathan Carter and he was

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 4>a guy from Troy. He from Alabama, Alabama bread guy.

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 4>I had to play that Troy had. He played a

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 4>year at the Giants. He came over to us, and

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 4>I remember I take I took him home one off

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 4>season and brought him back and her Matt was brought

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:00.080
<v Speaker 4>me in his office said hey, you did that, So

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:00.839
<v Speaker 4>what you're talking about?

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 2>He said, He said, who who Jay? Call him?

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 5>Ja?

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 2>He said who Jay Gud was working with this summer.

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, Now, I took the Miami with me. We

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:08.919
<v Speaker 2>worked together.

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.359
<v Speaker 4>He said, Tannah, you got a job at this if

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 4>you ever want to come and be a coach. He said,

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 4>I have never seen a turner. The guy was a

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.760
<v Speaker 4>running back, but he was tall. The man was running

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<v Speaker 4>routes like but all he did was just watch me

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<v Speaker 4>run routes. And he just did everything I.

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<v Speaker 2>Did, so I couldn't take credit for it.

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<v Speaker 4>But he just came around guys like myself so fast,

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<v Speaker 4>fast forward. Brandon Banks reminded me of Jay Gutter.

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<v Speaker 2>They so fast. Put You're in the NFL. Everybody's fast,

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<v Speaker 2>so they would break these things and guys will.

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<v Speaker 4>Catch him in an angle. So I told Jonathan the

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<v Speaker 4>same way I told Brandon. I said, bro, when you

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<v Speaker 4>getting open cut across field, don't try to outrun everybody

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<v Speaker 4>getting the guy up on you and break put it,

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<v Speaker 4>put your foot in the ground. His first return, both

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<v Speaker 4>of those guys first return was off of me telling

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<v Speaker 4>me both of those guys, So, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, great coach. All right, So Jason you got there,

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<v Speaker 1>you got our team. He got our lineup.

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<v Speaker 6>I got it, all right. I want to reiterate here

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<v Speaker 6>to our fans if we didn't say it. These are

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<v Speaker 6>guys you played with most like there are a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of legends that are obviously hollering.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't want to go to back. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do guys, you know, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh So here we go leading off, Santana Moss, d Hall,

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<v Speaker 6>London Fletcher, Sean Taylor, cleaning up, Read Dowdy, Lauren Langy

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 6>just swinging for the fence, Kendrick Goldsend, Mike Sellers and

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<v Speaker 6>then Anthony Armstrong or Brandon Banks and I put at

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<v Speaker 6>d H Trent Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>Like see that what I'm saying that they had no

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<v Speaker 3>rivalries and no no major group come be wrong or right.

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<v Speaker 2>Some guys people remember, some guys people don't. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also would like to tell the ax, the fans, tell

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<v Speaker 2>us who you think that's best for those slots.

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<v Speaker 6>It's great, absolutely, And I'm gonna throw one out to

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<v Speaker 6>you guys, all right, who's the ace, the starting pitcher,

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<v Speaker 6>the guy you need?

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<v Speaker 2>You need them to come in?

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<v Speaker 6>You're like an ace and baseball, if you're losing four

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.800
<v Speaker 6>games like you, you're ready for this guy to come in.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna put your back.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy.

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<v Speaker 3>People ain't gonna like this, but he threw gays how

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, and they probably got him fires.

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Ramsey, Yeah, and you was and you were sniffing

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<v Speaker 2>that day because because you're tripping right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So so what I would say is, this is the

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<v Speaker 4>only time I would dig deep outside of a guy

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<v Speaker 4>that that I played with. And I'm only gonna do

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<v Speaker 4>it because I feel like this guy deserves that.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, Joe Thimany, we used to return punts.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked so much about Doug. Doug did a hell

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<v Speaker 4>of a job Unner, you know, winning the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think thisman and Ripken don't get enough credit

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<v Speaker 4>for what they've done as quarterbacks. Here and Joe, Joe's everywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>He's all over everywhere, but we don't talk enough about who.

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<v Speaker 2>He was to this team before he got hurt. Loved Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>He was that dudey Joe, and you played football in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>You great.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, no bad Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you look at his career like Joe was like,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know how you and tell us you did everything.

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Joe actually did everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know he did. He may return punts in

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<v Speaker 2>the game like.

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<v Speaker 4>Number Seriously, he's number eight on the punt return listen

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<v Speaker 4>here every Yeah, he turned punts bro as a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was gonna say, is there anybody like from

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<v Speaker 1>a past rush standpoint that would be like the closer

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Like I was thinking like Ryan Carrigan, like

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Say. I played with Brew but he was like

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<v Speaker 1>near the end though, right, but he was still he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Still past rush. So you know, you got your Drake cords.

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<v Speaker 2>Other world you got. You know, if I could say

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<v Speaker 2>one position we.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably ain't hit on all the time, probably has been

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<v Speaker 3>there with Char's man and dexter manmon guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, those guys we didn't. We didn't go that deep.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm gonna say a guy who was with us

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<v Speaker 4>who I feel like the defense changed and and it

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<v Speaker 4>messed him up and why Marcus Washington. Yeah, if he

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<v Speaker 4>was able to play the play the guy. If he

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<v Speaker 4>was able to get outside as an outside lineback three

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<v Speaker 4>rush and just going go out to the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 4>do what he did best, man, this guyud have been

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<v Speaker 4>Pro Bowl every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Leavar Arrington too. The bar was not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>in space.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of wondering because I always think of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously quarterbacks, strong guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So Rush, I would probably go LeVar. LeVar had some specials,

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<v Speaker 2>special stretch. Still, yeah, he was different. He was just

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<v Speaker 2>an animal, man, he just yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so like Tanna said, if you guys have different lists,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're an older fan. You want those guys, those

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<v Speaker 1>kind of legends to be able. Yeah, yeah, put them

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<v Speaker 1>in there.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We love to hear it because I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get to set evolved. That's right, that's right. So guys,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining and thanks for listening, and that's gonna

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