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Speaker 1: On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we have the

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Speaker 1: free agent frenzy, all the new signings, we discussed them all.

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Speaker 1: We talked XFL kickoff rule.

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Speaker 2: Fred, what do you think, man, I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean too. I'm really excited about. We got

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Speaker 1: legend lineup. We're taking baseball and football and mix them

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Speaker 1: in together. We got read Doddy stories and we got

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Speaker 1: Lauren Landry swinging for the fences. It all starts right out.

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Speaker 2: Gets your gas man, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: On into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan, Paul sit

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Speaker 1: here with Fred Smoot and Santana mostin guys. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about in the production meeting girls basketball.

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Speaker 3: It's on top of everything. It's the best basketball in

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Speaker 3: college right now.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, and I think it has.

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Speaker 3: A lot to do with you know, back in the

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Speaker 3: day Pat and Ewan played at Georgetown. Yeah, but he

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Speaker 3: would play his freshman year, sophomore year, junior year. So

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Speaker 3: we get we get a history now with the with

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Speaker 3: the girls. We just watched Angel Reese go against Ill

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Speaker 3: last year, like, so this is a this is I'm

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Speaker 3: turn into a trilogy. Alro So, I think right now

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Speaker 3: women's basketball has captured our imagination because one they stars

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Speaker 3: stay like two they repeatedly go to war against each other.

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Speaker 3: And I think this the romantic size part that we're

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Speaker 3: missing in the male's basketball.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the things we spoke about, and

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure how long ago this was. I think

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Speaker 4: it was me and you were sitting in the room

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Speaker 4: just talking about how how much of their.

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Speaker 2: Games have changed. You know what I mean? These women.

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Speaker 4: Nowadays their game is on the level of some men,

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Speaker 4: and I think they have to even be more. I

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Speaker 4: guess you can say critical about certain things that they

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Speaker 4: do like men have, you know, different ways of beating you.

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Speaker 4: They can out jump through you, dunk the ball, they

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Speaker 4: can do so many things.

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Speaker 2: These women have to be skilled. They have to have skill.

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Speaker 4: They have to be able to drive, they have to

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Speaker 4: be able to shoot, so that the game is transcendent.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's one of the things that you know,

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Speaker 4: when you watch the game, it pulls us into because

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Speaker 4: you see these women now they're elevating, and it's one

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Speaker 4: of the reasons why QB saying, Hey, Helen, come on

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Speaker 4: us VIC three, show me sluve.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So do you think she should do it.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think.

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Speaker 4: I think not only for the sake of the money

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Speaker 4: gonna make that in her career. With the w NBA,

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Speaker 4: they don't make much.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem with that. I do believe. I do believe.

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Speaker 4: Now they're a bigger star, so they getting these these

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Speaker 4: shoe deals.

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Speaker 2: Now they're getting different.

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Speaker 4: She got to deal with Nike and she will be

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Speaker 4: able to make it over time.

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Speaker 2: But I think that five million would be straight.

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Speaker 4: So it would be something that she can do something

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Speaker 4: with her family out the gate and not have to

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Speaker 4: worry about trying to do this over her career.

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Speaker 3: I think this is how because w NBA wages it's terrible,

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Speaker 3: Like that's.

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Speaker 2: Why these girls are staying in college. They make it

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Speaker 2: more when nil deals.

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Speaker 1: Also they go overseas Toney.

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Speaker 3: This is the way I think you blow up the

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Speaker 3: had this thing I call high school proposal. Even when

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Speaker 3: we go to high school games, the girls.

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Speaker 2: Play and the boys play.

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Speaker 3: Because sometimes when I go to a Wizard game, by

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Speaker 3: the time I sit down for a little bit, the.

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Speaker 2: Game is over. Yeah, I'm serious, say it's the quickst

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Speaker 2: doing so much. Yeah, it's going quick.

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Speaker 3: So what if we went to a Wizards game, but

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Speaker 3: the Mystics play first and then the Wizards play session.

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Speaker 4: Now you feel the seat, Now you feel the se

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Speaker 4: plus I get like.

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Speaker 3: Six hours, four or five hours to be here, all right,

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Speaker 3: So think about how much eye buy from the concession

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Speaker 3: staying out, Think about my daughter watching the game, that

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Speaker 3: she's watching this game with me. I just think that's

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Speaker 3: the way to truly monetize it is to put it

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Speaker 2: We got to put a petition out man, all these ideas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's bright though, because honestly, bro, you know, you

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Speaker 4: know I haven't meant to missed this game yet, not

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Speaker 4: to say that I don't want to, but who goes.

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Speaker 2: To these games? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: I watch them on TV right now and then you

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Speaker 4: can see the seats now it starting to get, you know,

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Speaker 2: But I think that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: The Hamlet voice, all right, So we can't escape it, boys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a free agent frenzy and it's back. And we

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Speaker 1: voted on. It's horror music. Yeah, why I don't understand

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Speaker 3: Because you know what, it's Free agency is so scared

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Speaker 3: because because you watch these guys be great somewhere else

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Speaker 3: and you automatically think they're gonna be.

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Speaker 3: But one out of five free agents actually help your

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Speaker 3: New York Giants signed Brian Burns, gave him a hundred

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Speaker 2: What if Brian Burns ain't a hundred million dollar pass rushing.

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Speaker 3: So it's scary, but it's also satisfied, just like Halloween is.

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Speaker 2: Halloween is scary, but you know you're gonna get that

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Speaker 2: candy all day and it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: This guy over here, all right, Well, so these guys

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Speaker 1: aren't one hundred million dollar guys have just been signed.

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Speaker 1: We got Jeff Driscoll. I don't know how to say

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Speaker 1: Jerryman Nichols and then Malachi Walker are the guys that's

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Speaker 1: last show, and just high level, like what did you

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Speaker 1: think about these signings, Like what does this mean for

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Speaker 2: Just keep it, I mean high level.

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Speaker 4: I just think one of the things that stands out

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Speaker 4: Like they're veterans, They're guys that's going to be you know,

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Speaker 4: these guys have sweat equity in the game already. These

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Speaker 2: We have a spot for them to either.

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Speaker 4: what we have to do is basically build a team

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Speaker 3: Like the floor of the band has to be raised.

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Speaker 3: And that's when you when I look at these guys,

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Speaker 2: So if you raised the floor, the ceiling can only

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Speaker 4: I think one thing too that stands out about seeing

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Speaker 4: And one of the things I noticed about that team.

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Speaker 2: So when I'm.

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Speaker 4: Watching these guys strategically build his team together.

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Speaker 2: They're getting veterans, they're getting guys.

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Speaker 4: That have a leadership that's going to go out there

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Speaker 4: and like you said before, show some of these young

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Speaker 2: You need that.

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Speaker 3: You need big shot Bob, you need Robert or you

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Speaker 2: I just want to see it work.

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing about it is they want to see

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Speaker 1: Now there's a penalty. Now the ball comes back out

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Speaker 4: But it also shows you too that they're more worried about,

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, I think it takes

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Speaker 1: I just think it makes it more relevant. Like I

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Speaker 4: to see the return part of it.

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Speaker 2: But I understand the part of what you make.

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Speaker 4: You know, the point you're making about you don't have

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Speaker 4: to be a guy that's you know, that can run

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Speaker 4: fast and get down.

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Speaker 3: And I think you're gonna have to because returners are

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Speaker 3: usually fast. And if you know, we all want bad

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Speaker 3: angle from getting dusty.

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Speaker 2: But this right here, now you know, it's no angle.

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Speaker 4: It's like you're right here, Like the only thing you

449
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Speaker 4: can do is block a guy will If you can block,

450
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Speaker 4: you can make sure you get that behind in that hole.

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Speaker 2: So you be like and be tight because.

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Speaker 3: But if one of them returners hit that thing running

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Speaker 3: and like, think about it, we go, it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a small burst. You're gonna wait till he catch it.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna burst, but then you're gonna have to break down.

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Speaker 3: So that small burst and then you get to the breakdown. Now,

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Speaker 3: I got to find the runner that's gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be different. I'm gonna need them to be chasers. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna need my kickoff team to be great chase.

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Speaker 4: But if you watch the XFL and you saw what

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Speaker 4: I was because I paid coach.

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Speaker 2: You know, we went to together, we went to a

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Speaker 2: cup of game.

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Speaker 4: It just seemed like it was a bunch of just like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be the ball of me down right here,

466
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Speaker 4: because they ain't going nowhere until one or two guys

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Speaker 4: burst one.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know I had.

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Speaker 1: One of the things they showed when they made the

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Speaker 1: rule announcement is the teams in the XFL that were

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Speaker 1: the most creative, so they were running you know, reversus

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Speaker 1: counters and then all of a sudden it takes it

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Speaker 1: Because I think about it, this is this is nerdy

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Speaker 1: football talk, but essentially right now it plays like the

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Speaker 1: run duo just blocking straight right and you're asking somebody

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Speaker 1: to win on the hole, which is tough, right, But

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Speaker 1: if you look at the teams that were successful, they

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Speaker 1: were running it like power and counter on the outside zone.

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Speaker 1: And if you can get that kind of line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage action there, you can get a pretty dynamic runner.

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Speaker 1: So's it'll be interesting to see what it turns into

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad from a football standpoint that the play

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Speaker 1: is now relevant that I actually have to watch the play.

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Speaker 1: I used to like literally, I record the game and

485
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Speaker 1: buzz throll on the TV copy. I wouldn't even stop

486
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Speaker 1: because it's going to be a touchback, it's going to

487
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Speaker 1: go to commercial. I don't care, right, but now I

488
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Speaker 1: gotta watch it. I gotta watch play and so, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to help guys again, like the

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Speaker 1: keyst guys who have some returnability to find a home

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Speaker 1: on a team and running back, and they might be

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Speaker 1: different skill sets than what we're traditionally accustomed to, but

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Speaker 1: you better be able to shock and shed get to

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Speaker 1: that football and make a tackle. So I'm excited for

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Speaker 1: that one. The other one that I think is a

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Speaker 1: little bit maybe more controversial because I actually think people

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Speaker 1: are coming around on the kickoff thing, is the hip

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Speaker 1: drop tackle. And this one, to me seems like it'll

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Speaker 1: be impossible.

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Speaker 2: Just tail us defensive players not show up. Just tail

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Speaker 2: us not show up anymore. But you don't have to

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Speaker 2: tackle like that though we already listen.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you saw some of the tackles that

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Speaker 4: day was basically highlighting saying you can't do bro, It's obvious, like, Bro,

505
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Speaker 4: you're gonna hurt somebody.

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Speaker 3: One of the reason I'm jumping on your back is

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Speaker 3: because you gotta step on me already.

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Speaker 2: That's why you get a jump.

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Speaker 1: But it's so let's be clear, I can still tack

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Speaker 1: you from behind. I can still I can still do

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Speaker 1: a hip drop, like I can still tackle that way.

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Speaker 1: And just to be clear, Australian rules rugby took this

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Speaker 1: tackle out last year or two years ago, and everything's

514
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Speaker 1: been fine. It's a very specific action. It's two hundred

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Speaker 1: plays from last year's NFL. It's not anytime I'm behind

516
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Speaker 1: you I tackle you. It's not me tackling you and

517
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Speaker 1: flunging your legs. It's when you are dragging me and

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Speaker 1: I intentionally drop my weight onto your legs, which is

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Speaker 1: a play so fun that if you tackle correctly, it

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be an issue.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny.

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Speaker 3: This tackle came because of one day in queenn Do

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Speaker 3: y'all not remain a melma. It's it's Seattle. They stole

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Speaker 3: it to what they call alligator.

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Speaker 1: It's a gat role, which is a different tackle than this.

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Speaker 3: But it started because we couldn't hit we couldn't hit

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Speaker 3: high no more.

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Speaker 2: So one rule change for this rule.

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Speaker 1: Change, it was it wasn't. It wasn't because the high.

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Speaker 1: It was because of the helmet to helmet cond So

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Speaker 1: they went and they consulted with the rugby leagues and

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Speaker 1: the way rugby league's coaches. So like traditional like high school,

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Speaker 1: like you know, you're out there, it's like get.

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Speaker 2: Your head across the ball. Across the ball, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so.

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Speaker 1: Now you got to get Now with a alligator tackle,

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Speaker 1: your hat goes behind the ball, but you get into

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Speaker 1: an alligator role. And if you don't get the role

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Speaker 1: right away, you're gonna fall in the dude to like probably, look, this.

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Speaker 2: Is what I'm saying. So one rule a birth the

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Speaker 2: other one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But so ultimately, let me just say this, I do

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Speaker 1: think that the rule on helmet to helplet contact makes

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Speaker 1: players safer, allows player to have longer, healthier lives post football,

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Speaker 1: and so I think that that is an important rule.

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting rule because now it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like you said, it's a consequence of that initial rule change.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know because like when you look at

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Speaker 1: the so they did the thing on the NFL Network

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Speaker 1: where they showed clips that they thought were hip drops

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Speaker 1: that actually weren't hip drops. So even people who are

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Speaker 1: who know what they're looking for are having a hard

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Speaker 1: time identifying a sackle. So that's the thing. It's like,

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Speaker 1: it's happened so quick, so like, are you gonna just

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Speaker 1: call it if someone gets hurt?

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Speaker 2: People have made that tackle and guys got up.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. I've been hip dropped a ton of my career.

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Speaker 2: To Roy Williams was good at that.

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Speaker 4: He was doing it a different way though he would

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Speaker 4: come dah.

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Speaker 1: He got He was the guy that I heard the

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Speaker 1: horse call. Yeah. So I just think I think it's

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Speaker 1: a I appreciate the NFL's response and motivation to make

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Speaker 1: the game safer, and I think it's still pretty physical game,

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Speaker 1: like when you watch games on Sunday, like like there's

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Speaker 1: still big hits. Guys have adapted to the tackling rules.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how you give this to the

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Speaker 1: officials and be like, hey, this is super subjective legislature.

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Speaker 1: And so what I did here because I was complaining

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Speaker 1: to something about this, is that the NFL is actually

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Speaker 1: not going to encourage refs to call this penalty unless

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Speaker 1: it's very obvious they're going to find players post game

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Speaker 1: right to kind of get.

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Speaker 2: It out of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what you think about that.

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Speaker 1: It's just I don't know. It seems like it's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: That's like me going through a light and I know

578
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Speaker 4: I stopped at delight and then you're gonna get me

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Speaker 4: a ticket in the middle, Like, I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: Give me a flag if I did some wrong, don't

581
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Speaker 2: make me get home. And I look at my locker.

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Speaker 2: I got this dog on thing. You got, fine, give

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Speaker 2: me five pouts. So that's I think.

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Speaker 1: I think we all appreciate they're trying to make the

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Speaker 1: game safe for the players. I just don't know. I

586
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Speaker 1: just don't know how you call this play.

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Speaker 2: I like trying to take the body slam out of rest.

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Speaker 2: It just can't. Sorry but I did.

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Speaker 1: But you but you know, but you didn't hip drop tack.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say to me, hip drop tackling

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Speaker 2: is a very.

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Speaker 4: Specific thing, and it's a lot of these guys and

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Speaker 4: you see nowadays who catch who catch tackle?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like to me, I think those are the guys

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Speaker 2: that you you say.

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Speaker 4: Okay, bro got a hit you gotta tackle because I

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Speaker 4: see a lot of linebackers waiting for the guy to

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Speaker 4: get on the side.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna jump on the back of and

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Speaker 2: try to pull them down.

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Speaker 4: So if you want to highlight those guys, yes, because

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's the only time you see this

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Speaker 4: tackle being made, or if it's someone that's just so

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Speaker 4: so awkwardly tackled a guy and he didn't realize that

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Speaker 4: this guy is strong, and the guy started getting carried

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Speaker 4: and he's like, oh, I got to save myself because

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna look bad on TV.

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Speaker 3: So you right, My hip tackling didn't come with dB.

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Speaker 3: I mean with WHI receive was a running back. It

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Speaker 3: came with tight ends.

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Speaker 2: It came with bigger because tight ends are.

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Speaker 3: So damn I need to I need to use everything

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Speaker 3: I got and so I'm grabbing you, gonna match me

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Speaker 3: grabbing you, you dragging me, And now I got a

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Speaker 3: hollow shine.

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Speaker 2: I need you because I need to get you down.

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Speaker 1: And just to be clear, like you can still drop

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Speaker 1: your hip to tackle, I just can't drop on your

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Speaker 1: less And so it's a the march seems like line.

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Speaker 2: They'll figure it out. They always do.

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Speaker 1: All right, So now we have a legend lineup, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, here we go. So, so what

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Speaker 1: we're going to do today is we're going to make

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Speaker 1: a roster of veterans.

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Speaker 2: A baseball lineup.

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Speaker 1: Baseball lineup, and so I don't know that much about baseball,

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Speaker 1: but our producer, Jason, just a guy. Jason did a

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Speaker 1: great job of getting this all set up. So basically

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Speaker 1: what he's done is he said, we're going to make

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Speaker 1: like a hitting lineup for baseball, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: put kind of Washington legends in there. So number one

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Speaker 1: in the in the hitting lineup is a consistent hitter.

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Speaker 1: So I'm on above average speed, gets on base, right,

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of what we're looking for. So we'll

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Speaker 1: read off each position as we go down, just to

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Speaker 1: kind of give some clarity. Let's start with number one here.

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Speaker 1: Who kind of fits that mold? Do you think in

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Speaker 1: the in the storied history of the Washington franchise.

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Speaker 2: I'm my leadoff hitter, and.

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Speaker 1: We gotta we all gotta be on the same page

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Speaker 1: with this.

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Speaker 2: My lead off here is Dayre Green.

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Speaker 3: Wait above every speed he gonna get on the base,

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Speaker 3: he gonna allow the next hitter to make sure, Like

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Speaker 3: I want, I want the first gown base to be

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Speaker 3: a base stealing threat.

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Speaker 1: But isn't he like isn't he like? He's like a

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Speaker 1: home run guy though, because he's made big plays interceptions time.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, maze, Hey he more speed, Like once I'm

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Speaker 3: on the bags, now you gotta watch him.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Darrel, is that second base he could steal third?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Now he becomes a legit threat for the second hitter

661
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Speaker 3: because the second hitter is a power hitter, right, yeah.

662
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Speaker 1: So second hitter is the best contact hitter, has good

663
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Speaker 1: back control, surgeon with the bats, so.

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Speaker 3: That means the ball wheel get it into the field

665
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Speaker 3: with this guy. And if I got Dale green Lee,

666
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Speaker 3: now I got a threat to go in and score

667
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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: So are we actually Jason, I got a question for

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Speaker 1: you can kind of here for a second. Are we actually,

670
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Speaker 1: like kind of are we saying this is the based

671
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Speaker 1: on athletic traits? Yes, so we're trying to do or

672
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Speaker 1: are we saying based on play style while they were here?

673
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Speaker 2: Whatever you want to do.

674
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Speaker 1: I'm taking it's pretty serious, guys. I'm taking it's pretty serious.

675
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Speaker 2: I think I think both things could be right. I

676
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Speaker 2: like that. When I heard it, I put myself there.

677
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, you know, because the first thing stood

678
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Speaker 4: out was consistent hitter. And when I think a consistent

679
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: hitter and a football terminology, it's a guy that's moving

680
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 4: the chains consistently with my physician, you know what I'm saying.

681
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, when it was a first

682
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Speaker 4: down need to be made, even when I was long

683
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Speaker 4: into two and I was a third down guy coming in,

684
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Speaker 4: I was in the I was in the option of

685
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Speaker 4: getting the ball movie changed.

686
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Speaker 2: You know.

687
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Speaker 4: I was a guy I remember, like, you know, I

688
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: played cards in the off season with and Trail Row,

689
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 4: you know, and Trail's and you guy he was younger

690
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 4: than me, but he played with the Giants and he

691
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: was like he's like, Tanny, you know what I hate, man.

692
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Speaker 4: You know when you moved to the slot. We've been

693
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Speaker 4: getting ready for y'all games. And I dB coach would

694
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 4: tell of young guys, don't get don't get side traded

695
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 4: and see eighty nine coming in the game and think he's

696
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: he's no longer eighty nine. He not still gonna move

697
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: the chains on you. So don't be that guy. And

698
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: he said, I be damn third down, you got a

699
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Speaker 4: first down, he said. The coach is shaking his head

700
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Speaker 4: at So I laughed when I had those conversations with guys,

701
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: because I never considered myself as still like being a

702
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Speaker 4: guy that you talked about in your locker room year twelve,

703
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: thirteen and fourteen. And I'm in the slot and I'm like,

704
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 4: I'm coming in third down. But so when I saw this,

705
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Speaker 4: I said, Oh, that's me. That's the guy that's gonna

706
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Speaker 4: get on base and let.

707
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Speaker 2: Everybody else do that. I can live with that. I

708
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: could live with Santana.

709
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: Like like Brigands or somebody like just the guy who's

710
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: gonna be consistent, like cloud of dust, gut on there.

711
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Speaker 2: I'm not my leadoff.

712
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Speaker 1: So you're like, so we're not talking play style here.

713
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Speaker 1: We're talking more.

714
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Speaker 5: Like we're mixing the athlete and the play stoff the place.

715
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Speaker 5: I like both those. Okay, all right, so leadoff. I

716
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Speaker 5: mean either one is fine.

717
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Speaker 4: It's no wrong the right answer. I just think it's

718
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: just us saying who we like at des spot.

719
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Speaker 1: All right, Number two, best contact hitter who has good

720
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Speaker 1: back control, Surgeon with the bat. I don't know it's

721
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: because he said surgeon, but I think Surgeon is.

722
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Speaker 2: The number one thing standing out in my head.

723
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna start this one off. I'm gonna say, d

724
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: Hall give you my example why. And like I said,

725
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Speaker 4: we just trying to them into what they do.

726
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Speaker 1: He also played baseball. NY worry about d Hall.

727
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: So and one of the things about go ahead.

728
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Speaker 1: Do you remember during the lockout year? I remember d

729
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Speaker 1: We're having a meeting with the n f L p

730
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Speaker 1: A and we're all talking about what we're gonna do

731
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Speaker 1: and how we're gonna save this money, and we had

732
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Speaker 1: this emergency fun if it early long and everyone's taking

733
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Speaker 1: it really serious, and the Hall says, he stands up

734
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Speaker 1: and says, I just go play baseball in the MLB.

735
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Speaker 1: And I was like what, And he's very good baseball.

736
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, he's a hell of

737
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Speaker 2: an athlete. I know, like, didn't you play basketball to

738
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Speaker 2: you can, but.

739
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Speaker 3: This is one of the best, one of the better

740
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Speaker 3: athletes I've been around. I think I have been around

741
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Speaker 3: some like class A athletes like class A.

742
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Speaker 4: So when okay, they have number two best best contact hitter,

743
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Speaker 4: I think and I'm not so so I'm not trying

744
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Speaker 4: to say that he was a good hitter when it

745
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: came to football, but when it comes to his position

746
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: being a cornerback. Yeah, the things that stood out to

747
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: me about d Hall he was a surgeon and what he.

748
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Speaker 2: Did best and this says a surgeon with the bat.

749
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Speaker 4: He was a surgeon at dissecting and when the when

750
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Speaker 4: they jumped that dog on interception. So I think of him,

751
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: he's a he's a perfect guy for that, you know

752
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: that fit, you know that criteria that just he was

753
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Speaker 4: one of those guys that don't try him over there

754
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: because he's.

755
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Speaker 2: Good at what he does and he's going for show,

756
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: make it hurt for you, and.

757
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: He's gonna get a good outfeel to too. You might

758
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: want to put him in shortstop. So he was I

759
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Speaker 3: can dig d hout right there.

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Speaker 1: I seeking like Sonny Jergensen because the surgeon, you know,

761
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Speaker 1: like that kind of precision elemental. Okay, yeah, like like

762
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: the Hall is a better athlete than say no offense

763
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Speaker 1: to Sunday. But you know all right, okay number three,

764
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: this is easy all around best hitter, contact power smart

765
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Speaker 1: in London here, what would you do?

766
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Speaker 5: I was going Sean Taylor there as opposed to power,

767
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Speaker 5: scary window come on that.

768
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Speaker 2: That you get. I seen the scary you can read

769
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Speaker 2: a little more.

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Speaker 3: But when I say when I see it all around,

771
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: when I see it all around, I think that's what

772
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Speaker 3: brought me to Sean because.

773
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Speaker 4: But London was an athlete. London was a point guard

774
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: in basketball. You can run better than the average and told.

775
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Speaker 2: You to Washington dinastay. London is on that getting then interception.

776
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: He can interceptions. He does spin move. He showed you

777
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: young London. He almost got Tom Brady fire.

778
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Speaker 3: So I enjoy that I can dig London there because

779
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: we are gonna push on Taylor the scary guy.

780
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Speaker 1: It's a scary guy power he's a yeah, so what

781
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: is it? Hits hits the diggers makes the other team scared.

782
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Truent Williams for this one. Honestly,

783
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: he's a freaking yeah, he's a freaking dude. But Sean Taylor,

784
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: Trent Williams kind of that freak athlete that fits in

785
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: that spot, the guy that I mean Like, so for Trent,

786
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously everyone knows Sean Taylor, but for Trent,

787
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 1: like he was that dude. Man. You remember him run

788
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: down on screens, getting out in the front, setting the tone.

789
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: Have you ever played basketball with dude? I remember walking with.

790
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 4: Him when he told me he played running back as

791
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: a kid. I said, yeah, he was. He just grew

792
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: up one day. He got older one day and it

793
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: got bigger.

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Speaker 1: And my favorite thing about Trent ever is him making

795
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: tackles and interceptions, like because he would run down, he'd

796
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: run past people, sink his hips and like light dudes up.

797
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, man, like, where'd you learn how

798
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: to do that? He's like I used to cover punts

799
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: in college. He used to cover punts in college.

800
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Speaker 2: What like a Dalius Thomas was a gunner?

801
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Speaker 1: What are you doing? Man? Like?

802
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: He's an athlete. Man.

803
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: I remember walking up playing the Baltimore in my first

804
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: year and I as a coloner, I have to block

805
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: the gunner for the point. And Jed, I mean my coach,

806
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: was like, hey, we're gonna put up this lineback out

807
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: there with you to help you.

808
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: Like for what, because you're gonna have to block a dish.

809
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: To watch film?

810
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: You're telling me, no, no, this is before the week store.

811
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Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, that's fine because I

812
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 3: knew a day he's from Mississippi.

813
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: And they were like, no, he is the gunner and

814
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: he's the best gunner in the NFL. And I was like,

815
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: my god, what have I got myself?

816
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: Here?

817
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Speaker 5: Was he?

818
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Speaker 2: He was like big, six hundred and fifty pounds, ran

819
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Speaker 2: a four.

820
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Speaker 1: Four forty playing college like Blacker him him.

821
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Speaker 3: All these boys was at us at the same time. Uh,

822
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 3: Pat Curtain a, Dlius Thomas.

823
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

824
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: They had like seven pros, TJ. Slaughter, Oh got like

825
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: they was all the top Easton. They was all at

826
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Speaker 3: the school at the same exac time.

827
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Speaker 1: That's pretty wild. That was like when like Greg Hardy

828
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: or like even when Darren Waller was playing gunner, Like

829
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: Darren Waller is like six two yes, covering down there anyway,

830
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Speaker 1: So we got a little side track. So five hit

831
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Speaker 1: her in the fifth spot is a contact with some

832
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Speaker 1: pop like number three, but just a little less inability.

833
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Speaker 2: I gotta read Doddie doubting. I gotta read Doddy some love.

834
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Speaker 2: You hit me.

835
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Speaker 4: He would have and won't and won't blink, you know,

836
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 4: and but you put him in space.

837
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Speaker 2: I was you know, read was money. We was DB's again.

838
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: And see people don't stay read. Were hearing Nate and

839
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: people didn't know he couldn't hear.

840
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Speaker 1: You tell his story all the time. Every time we talk.

841
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: About He used to get so mad at me. You know,

842
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: I'm not the type of guy that played tricks doing

843
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: the game.

844
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: You play tricks in the game, you know.

845
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: I get to the huddle and read a look at

846
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Speaker 3: me because he won't on me to tell him to call,

847
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: and I just I.

848
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Do this with my lips and I'd be.

849
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, making those sounds, no sound, what's the call?

850
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: Was such a good dude. You were just making that

851
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: guy and he was probably like young when you played

852
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: with him.

853
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but but listened. Would go to the wall

854
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: for you.

855
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Speaker 3: Though with his body said percent. He leave him by

856
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 3: to be a bit of two percent.

857
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: He used to give his body.

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Speaker 1: I remember him tackling Brandon Jacobs, like just throwing his

859
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: soul into the tackle. They come out with like a

860
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: broken stern up and then play play the rest of

861
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Speaker 1: the game. Dude.

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Speaker 4: For all our fans that listen to this, y'all, y'all

863
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Speaker 4: give a special shot to read make sure y'all tag

864
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: him on this podcast because we got to get read

865
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Speaker 4: out more Flowers. Man, he was one of those guys

866
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 4: that you know how like when you're on the team

867
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: with guys keeps the team together. It's not even that

868
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: it's like I told you how it was with guys

869
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: like you might not I might not share nothing with you.

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00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had love for I would look at like,

871
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Speaker 2: you know what, but that worked. I think I invite

872
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Speaker 2: him to my house with dinner, like he's one of

873
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Speaker 2: those and we Re showed up with a neck break.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the neck row. The netro that's right, had

875
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: a cracked up. Dude. He was crazy, man. He was

876
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: not like a big guy.

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Speaker 4: In rep right, bro, but he threw his body or around.

878
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: You know, Re said, I got one way to make it.

879
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: He would have been great with his defense. The defense.

880
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: He would have been great with his defense.

881
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: No doubt anybody else that kind of fits that.

882
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 5: Well.

883
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: I got another read tight end read Jordan Reed. Jordan's

884
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: Oh Jordan Reed.

885
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: Jordan Reed is one of the biggest Washington football ifs ever.

886
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: I just think this dude talent was through the roof,

887
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: like I think highly the guy.

888
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was, you know, outside of Santana,

889
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe the best route runner that I played with my career.

890
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you what I'm saying, but like the type

891
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: of guy, like I remember him doing one on ones

892
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: with the DB's. I remember, this is not to hate

893
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: on Josh s. Norman. He came to the first practice.

894
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: Josh Norman is this guy just made all this money,

895
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: all this part. Remember that he's bawling in Carolina. It's

896
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: his first day of practice. And Jordan's like, all right,

897
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: let's do one on ones. And it's like kind of like, no,

898
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: you're a tight end. And Jordan gets out there.

899
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, dangate Adams.

900
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 3: When I watched Adams him and joyed rerun the round

901
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: like basketball.

902
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: Players patient, Yeah, just how to set you up?

903
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: All right?

904
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: So number six, y'all gonna laugh with this one.

905
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: Swings for the fences, swings out of his shoes will

906
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: strike out a lot.

907
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: I got run Landry, that's my dog.

908
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: But that damn Landry gonna here. You're gonna knock you out.

909
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna miss, You're gonna hit the TV. Landry.

910
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: That's funny, so funny.

911
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: I talked to l Run two weeks ago.

912
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: Real, I'm having call in on one should so we're

913
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 3: gonna get him back in the fold.

914
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: But you hit this from right on the road. That

915
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: damn you know what?

916
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 4: You know what always stands out to me him getting

917
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: that Djack that game against the first game of the season,

918
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: talking that crap.

919
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 2: With DJA and the first player of the game. Look,

920
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: they did this to that boy, and that boy came

921
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: up running.

922
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: And is the post safety like that?

923
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: Why did you bite him back there?

924
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: Man? Also, I know Lauren gets a lot of hate

925
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: for that play specifically, but my rookie year, that dude

926
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: was on pace to be defensive MVP. I think through

927
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: like six games he had like one hundred and five tackles,

928
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: two interceptions, and five sacks.

929
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: That was through like eight games.

930
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 4: And what I'm saying, you remember people, people forget that

931
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 4: like he was like when he was on he was

932
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: on Offen say this hateful to run that he didn't

933
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 4: get a chance to have Sean, because if he had Sean,

934
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: the Holy Team would have.

935
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 2: Made his career.

936
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: Like having Sewn Kase, Sean would no longer got to

937
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 4: play strong. Just let let the run go up and

938
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: do what he want to do. He want to, he

939
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 4: want to, He want to go in there and eat.

940
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 4: He want to go out there and tackle. Seawn could

941
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 4: have played that center field, and he was a strong

942
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 4: safety naturally, but he was a hell of a cover

943
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: safety too.

944
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 5: Man.

945
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: He would go sideline aside.

946
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: At the time, you're talking me Sean Streams, Collos Rogers,

947
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: Sean Taylor run. You can't get too many defensive backfields

948
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: like no, then we add a d hall in the

949
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: middle of it, like you gotta realize when we stepped

950
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: like my DV coach, like, I ain't got to do muhing, listen,

951
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put whatever five of.

952
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: Y'all I wanted.

953
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: No One was so sad about that because as a receiver,

954
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 4: I see this every day and I'm like, how in

955
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: the hell they getting beat? And then look up at

956
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: our front line. We ain't got nobody, nobody getting out

957
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: to the quarterback. I mean it was at one time.

958
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: I sat there. I told you, I waited for Dee.

959
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: Hall come off the field, and de Hall came off

960
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 4: like he was like pissed, and I said, bro, I

961
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: counted the rocks rest Wes Welker ran eight different routes

962
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: to get open, and Tom was just sitting there waiting.

963
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: The Hall had covered him so long somewhere he couldn't

964
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: cover him no more. And then he got open and the.

965
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: Boot touchdown and I said, d All, that one't your fuck, bro,

966
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 4: No one's putting pressure on this quarterback. So I hate

967
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: to the fact that we had so much talent in

968
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: our secondary man, and we just ain't have No, we

969
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 4: ain't have a good enough rush didn't come together.

970
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: I like that one though. That's probably the best one

971
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: so far. All right, seven, you're okay, nothing great, but

972
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: everything you do everything, well.

973
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's me, is it you? I'm gonna say that

974
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: something like that, I say, I put Kejr. Ghost.

975
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Ketj put Ketch you.

976
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: I think he was just solid man, like he was

977
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: one of those guys who you know, they didn't give

978
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: him no credit, but he was every time you put

979
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: him in the game.

980
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: He made a play, Yeah, made a play.

981
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: Was excellent at that, Like he was just such a

982
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: good leader, very solid.

983
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: Another one I got Rocky mcintized, Rocky mcintize, because nothing.

984
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: Makes me feel better than walking to hudder and look

985
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 3: around and Rocky smile.

986
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 4: I still I still laugh at the story that London

987
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: gave me with Rocky. He said, I have to tell

988
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: you this story one day about rock You know, Rocky

989
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 4: and Hurricane. He said, Man, you know you know as

990
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 4: a linebacker. You know I watched so much to whereas

991
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 4: that if I see something go different, i'ma I'm gonna

992
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: do it.

993
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call a play.

994
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: That's gonna benefit that up because of it, because we

995
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: know it we ran in the week before or whatever.

996
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: He say. Man, I ain't trying to put your boy

997
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: on it. I ain't trying to put him out there.

998
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: He say. I told Rocky, hey, we're gonna do this,

999
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: do this because they keep doing it. Rocky saying, no,

1000
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: we ain't go We ain't go over.

1001
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: There this week.

1002
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: I'm doing what coach said, these ain't Rocky, we done

1003
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: ran it before, not this week. We ain't doing any practice.

1004
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: He said. Rocky would not go outside of the box.

1005
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 2: Tell him. So it was just funny.

1006
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 4: Else it was funny because I remember me and Reggie

1007
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 4: doing that in college. So you know, for you know,

1008
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: we played together four years, you know as true freshman's.

1009
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: You know, Reggie started as a true freshman. I came

1010
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: in on third downs as a slot receiver, and then

1011
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: next year I started at the Z and still played slot.

1012
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: So Reggie got tired of like we just not up

1013
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: on the same side. We just do.

1014
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 4: Everybody knows Reggie's on the ball and was off the ball.

1015
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: So we got to the point that every time we

1016
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 4: came in till we was doing Zacha zip Zacha zipp

1017
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: would be like zach to the other side of zip

1018
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: to the short side. There was emotions and when we

1019
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: had like you know, a bunch of formations or something,

1020
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: instead of Reggie taking the ball, you take the Ballggie

1021
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 4: come over. So CJ, our receiver coach, which is the

1022
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 4: head coach of the Houston team right now, are for

1023
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: the UFL.

1024
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: CJ got mad.

1025
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 4: He got us on the phone. Bro, say b you know,

1026
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: he from New Orleans, say, Bro, what y'all doing out there?

1027
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: And reggis like, calm down. He made the play, right,

1028
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 4: He's I just don't want the other guys to get

1029
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: confused and say, no, we're letting everybody know that me

1030
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 4: and Tan are gonna switch positions to try to get

1031
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 4: other guys over.

1032
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, you y'all, y'all made it. Y'all, y'all

1033
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: don't need me no more. You know what I'm saying.

1034
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: And it was just funny because once you watched the film,

1035
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: you realize that we really was out there, you know,

1036
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: playing chess instead of checking.

1037
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: You do that on your own own. That's unbelievable because

1038
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: I know, like Kyle would spend like days formation trying

1039
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: to twitch a bitch and get and you guys just

1040
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: said we was to the point.

1041
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: Where we played as freshmens, we dominated a freshmans, we

1042
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: had great sophomore season, we had our junior year, and

1043
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 4: le's go ahead and play with these guys.

1044
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 5: Now.

1045
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: You know we're gonna make you think a little more

1046
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: because now you know you can't just say ready to

1047
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: X ten of disease.

1048
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: Them gonna tell us the truth?

1049
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, So we're on eight now eight and

1050
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: that is you're here for defense. Not a good hitter,

1051
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: but you an excellent fielder.

1052
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: So I don't even That's where I got stuck at. Yeah,

1053
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: like it's you like I didn't have a guy because

1054
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, I ain't got to be a defensive with

1055
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: offensive prowise.

1056
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: But how are you defensive player with offensive? You got

1057
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: something Jason we got.

1058
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: Was of a defensive player with offensive Sean Taylor had

1059
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: off Champ Bailey.

1060
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: Receiving yours and rushing yards.

1061
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 6: Maybe you could look at it as a guy that

1062
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 6: did one thing exceptionally well, like that was his thing.

1063
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Andre Cottle, Dude, what arens Alexander.

1064
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 2: Games?

1065
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying.

1066
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: He just was like he don't fit that because he

1067
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: was he was great.

1068
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: That we like the special like the special team's ability,

1069
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he just was a

1070
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: he's a dude.

1071
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: Let's go Mike Sales here because Mike, I'm just here. Indeed,

1072
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: his he did what he great? Like Mike for that,

1073
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: Mike Sales.

1074
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: All right, that's one number nine speed demon.

1075
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: Not a right hitter, heyst town of number one in

1076
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: the leadoff. It's gotta be dyrel great, No, but it don't.

1077
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: But it's a great hitter, but.

1078
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: Can't fly like this is need somebody who is like

1079
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: arms We need somebody Armstrong.

1080
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 4: We need somebody who wasn't great at that position, but

1081
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: was great when it came to just running by you.

1082
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: So you got to look at the whole thing. So

1083
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: Darryl Green was great, you know what I'm saying, all right,

1084
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: all around great.

1085
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: So we need a guy who wasn't what's his first name?

1086
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: Armstrong? Yeah, Armstrong, who you're talking about? Go with the

1087
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: return guy?

1088
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: That was thanks dude, Armstrong. Dude, this is this star

1089
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: about Armstrong.

1090
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: So we used to do fly.

1091
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: So Armstrong can't remember his first name, Brandon Banks. Yeah,

1092
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that, but he used We used to

1093
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: do flying. You could run into the kickoff, right, and

1094
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: so Danny Smith used to measure forty times to see

1095
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: how it was a flying forty Anthony Armstrong, great, dude, Sorry,

1096
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Speaker 1: remember your first name, Anthony. But anyways, she used to

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Speaker 1: do flying forty times. I remember we're in a meeting

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Speaker 1: one time and he's going over everyone's flying forty times,

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Speaker 1: so like mine's like a four eight, you know, like

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Speaker 1: it's like my normal forty times slow. And he gets

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Speaker 1: to Anthony, who was the number two, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: it was if you can guess it, it was like

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Speaker 1: for two it was a three seventh. I know, it's crazy,

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Speaker 1: it was My dude could straight.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 4: You remember in twenty ten, man, when he became the

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00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 4: starter at Z had like a thousand.

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Speaker 2: You know, he had nine hunred I had.

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Speaker 4: I had a thousand that year he had nine hundred,

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Speaker 4: and I was mad because I'm like, this was gonna

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Speaker 4: get him paid, you see what I'm saying. And I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 4: and he I remember had that conversation. I was like, Bro,

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Speaker 4: it's all you needed that thousand because you know these

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00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: teams are look at that and be like, well he

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Speaker 4: just got a thousand yards. We gotta pay him like

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00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 4: a one a thousand yard receiver, you know. And he

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00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 4: ended up going to the Cowboys next year?

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Speaker 1: Was that the next year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? The next year he didn't come back and they

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Speaker 2: didn't even use him.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm like that dude could straight fly. Brandon Banks

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00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: and fly. Did you play with anybody like that? Listen?

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Speaker 2: Man? Hey, my generation was speed personified.

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Speaker 4: I got a great story about Brandon. So you know,

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Speaker 4: Brandon is just going straight out fly little dude, So.

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Speaker 1: You have to use you know, three the servet forty

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Speaker 1: started to cut you off.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't hear it.

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Speaker 1: So we were we were. He was here for he

1130
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: was a trial and we were at their same rookie municamp.

1131
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: We came at the same time. So they said, hey,

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00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: everybody who's not a priority for agent has to come

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Speaker 1: out and run a forty if they want. So Brandon

1134
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: is fully spatted up. Just finished practice, mind you, okay

1135
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: on that turf outside the astro turf. He ran up

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Speaker 1: four two four two four and spatted cleats on astro

1137
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Speaker 1: turf after practice.

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Speaker 2: He could fly, but don't thee Star wars fly to.

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00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he can fly to So no, no getting back

1140
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 4: to Brandon. So he was running these kickoff he kept

1141
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 4: breaking them. And I remember when I was with the Jets,

1142
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: I had a guy named Jonathan Carter and he was

1143
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 4: a guy from Troy. He from Alabama, Alabama bread guy.

1144
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: I had to play that Troy had. He played a

1145
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: year at the Giants. He came over to us, and

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00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: I remember I take I took him home one off

1147
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: season and brought him back and her Matt was brought

1148
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 4: me in his office said hey, you did that, So

1149
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 4: what you're talking about?

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00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: He said, He said, who who Jay? Call him?

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Speaker 5: Ja?

1152
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: He said who Jay Gud was working with this summer.

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00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: I said, Now, I took the Miami with me. We

1154
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 2: worked together.

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00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 4: He said, Tannah, you got a job at this if

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00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: you ever want to come and be a coach. He said,

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00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: I have never seen a turner. The guy was a

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00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 4: running back, but he was tall. The man was running

1159
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: routes like but all he did was just watch me

1160
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: run routes. And he just did everything I.

1161
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: Did, so I couldn't take credit for it.

1162
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: But he just came around guys like myself so fast,

1163
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: fast forward. Brandon Banks reminded me of Jay Gutter.

1164
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: They so fast. Put You're in the NFL. Everybody's fast,

1165
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: so they would break these things and guys will.

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00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: Catch him in an angle. So I told Jonathan the

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00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: same way I told Brandon. I said, bro, when you

1168
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 4: getting open cut across field, don't try to outrun everybody

1169
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 4: getting the guy up on you and break put it,

1170
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Speaker 4: put your foot in the ground. His first return, both

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00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 4: of those guys first return was off of me telling

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Speaker 4: me both of those guys, So, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, great coach. All right, So Jason you got there,

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00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: you got our team. He got our lineup.

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Speaker 6: I got it, all right. I want to reiterate here

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00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 6: to our fans if we didn't say it. These are

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00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 6: guys you played with most like there are a lot

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00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 6: of legends that are obviously hollering.

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00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't want to go to back. We didn't

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00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: want to do guys, you know, right.

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Speaker 6: Uh So here we go leading off, Santana Moss, d Hall,

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00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 6: London Fletcher, Sean Taylor, cleaning up, Read Dowdy, Lauren Langy

1183
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 6: just swinging for the fence, Kendrick Goldsend, Mike Sellers and

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00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 6: then Anthony Armstrong or Brandon Banks and I put at

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00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 6: d H Trent Williams.

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00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 3: Like see that what I'm saying that they had no

1187
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: rivalries and no no major group come be wrong or right.

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00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: Some guys people remember, some guys people don't. But I

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00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: also would like to tell the ax, the fans, tell

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Speaker 2: us who you think that's best for those slots.

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00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 6: It's great, absolutely, And I'm gonna throw one out to

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00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 6: you guys, all right, who's the ace, the starting pitcher,

1193
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 6: the guy you need?

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00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: You need them to come in?

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00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 6: You're like an ace and baseball, if you're losing four

1196
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 6: games like you, you're ready for this guy to come in.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna put your back.

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Speaker 1: Guy.

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Speaker 3: People ain't gonna like this, but he threw gays how

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Speaker 3: all the time, and they probably got him fires.

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00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: Pat Ramsey, Yeah, and you was and you were sniffing

1202
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: that day because because you're tripping right now.

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Speaker 4: So so what I would say is, this is the

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Speaker 4: only time I would dig deep outside of a guy

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Speaker 4: that that I played with. And I'm only gonna do

1206
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 4: it because I feel like this guy deserves that.

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Speaker 2: I say, Joe Thimany, we used to return punts.

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Speaker 4: We talked so much about Doug. Doug did a hell

1209
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Speaker 4: of a job Unner, you know, winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: But I think thisman and Ripken don't get enough credit

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Speaker 4: for what they've done as quarterbacks. Here and Joe, Joe's everywhere,

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Speaker 4: He's all over everywhere, but we don't talk enough about who.

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00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: He was to this team before he got hurt. Loved Joe.

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Speaker 2: He was that dudey Joe, and you played football in

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You great.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, no bad Joe.

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Speaker 4: Now you look at his career like Joe was like,

1219
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 4: like you know how you and tell us you did everything.

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00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 4: Joe actually did everything.

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Speaker 2: I don't know he did. He may return punts in

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Speaker 2: the game like.

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Speaker 4: Number Seriously, he's number eight on the punt return listen

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Speaker 4: here every Yeah, he turned punts bro as a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, is there anybody like from

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Speaker 1: a past rush standpoint that would be like the closer

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Speaker 1: for you? Like I was thinking like Ryan Carrigan, like

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Speaker 1: Bruce Say. I played with Brew but he was like

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Speaker 1: near the end though, right, but he was still he was.

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Speaker 2: Still past rush. So you know, you got your Drake cords.

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Speaker 2: Other world you got. You know, if I could say

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Speaker 2: one position we.

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Speaker 3: Probably ain't hit on all the time, probably has been

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Speaker 3: there with Char's man and dexter manmon guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, those guys we didn't. We didn't go that deep.

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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna say a guy who was with us

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Speaker 4: who I feel like the defense changed and and it

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Speaker 4: messed him up and why Marcus Washington. Yeah, if he

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00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 4: was able to play the play the guy. If he

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Speaker 4: was able to get outside as an outside lineback three

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Speaker 4: rush and just going go out to the quarterback and

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Speaker 4: do what he did best, man, this guyud have been

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl every year.

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Speaker 2: Leavar Arrington too. The bar was not supposed to be

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Speaker 2: in space.

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Speaker 1: Just kind of wondering because I always think of, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously quarterbacks, strong guys.

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Speaker 2: So Rush, I would probably go LeVar. LeVar had some specials,

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Speaker 2: special stretch. Still, yeah, he was different. He was just

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Speaker 2: an animal, man, he just yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so like Tanna said, if you guys have different lists,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're an older fan. You want those guys, those

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Speaker 1: kind of legends to be able. Yeah, yeah, put them

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Speaker 1: in there.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: We love to hear it because I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: get to set evolved. That's right, that's right. So guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining and thanks for listening, and that's gonna

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