1 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Well, no dogs here on the Athletic Podcast Network. Free 2 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Agency Watch continues here in July. First, Happy Canada Day, everybody, 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm tasmelus with me. It's the man in the middle, 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Trey Kirby. 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: He and the man making the magic happened as always, 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: it's super producer JD. 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Hello, what's up, JD? How are you feeling? How are 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: you celebrating Canada Day? That corn dogs? 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Corn dogs, corn dogs dipped in maple syrup. 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: Okay, probably actually good that you mentioned it. That's pretty good. 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be all right. 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: What about a breakfast sausage corn dog style dipped in 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 3: maple syrup would be pretty good? 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you guys are putting it all together, really 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: putting it all What do they call that? I don't know. 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: I like, I like the idea of it. It's like 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: a pig and a blanket. Yeah, in a like a 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: pancake blanket a pancake. 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably is. I thought we got some good 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: moves here, not huge ones. Remember what Adam Silver said 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: at the NBA Draft when he came out and he said, oh, 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: he's celebrating the okay, see Indiana Final And then he said, 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: welcome to a new era of NBA basketball where every 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: team has a chance. Yeah, kind of feels like that. 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: I think he was onto something like you made these 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: smaller moves. 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Know if any of these moves has put a single 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: team on the thunders level. But every team has a 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: chance to finish second right now, I think. 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Is at least true. Well, let's jump right into that 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: first move. The Denver Nuggets, the team that took the 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: NBA champs to seven games, they made a very important 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: move here going to get a shooter. They traded away 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior to the Brooklyn Nets for Cam. Cam 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Johnson is coming. Over All they had to give up 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: was Michael Porter Junior and a first round pick in 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: twenty thirty two, a long time from now that's unprotected. Yeah, exactly, 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: Yoki is gonna be an old man, thirty seven years old, right, Yeah, 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: and here they get Cam Johnson. What do you think 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: of this trade? Trade? I like it. 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: I like it for the Nuggets just because we saw 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: how Game seven went. They were down to one armed 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior for the most part, one leg, Aaron 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: Gordon and Russell Westbrook around their four guys in Jokic, 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: Murray Christian Brown, and I mean it was MPJ at 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: the time, but Jamal, I guess, and Jamal Murray of course. 47 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: But I think this is the Nuggets taking on a 48 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: little bit of risk here. Cam Johnson is older than 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior thirty years old by the playoffs to 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: mpg's twenty seven. He's a little bit smaller. MPJ has 51 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: a legit six foot ten, a pretty good rebounder, which 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: is something that the Nuggets are gonna have to address 53 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: going forward because Cam Johnson at six foot eight isn't 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: quite the same rebounder as Michael Porter Junior, but he's 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: a little bit better with the ball in his hands. 56 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: Cam Johnson is, He's a little bit better of a playmaker, 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: really stretched his game with the Nets last season. They're 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: maintaining the shooting basically, you know, forty percent essentially for 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: MPJ and for Cam Johnson. Doesn't go by CJ. Maybe 60 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: a quicker trigger on Cam Johnson. But the Nuggets. I 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: like the move in general. I like the move. I 62 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: like to see them use one of their assets to 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: change things up. I like that it opens up a 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: little bit of flexibility, which brings because the Nuggets will 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: now be underneath the aprons. Gives them some access to 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: their exceptions. The key is they have to go and 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: use those exceptions. Like Al Horford would be an incredible 68 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: fit here. But right now they're bringing in Bruce Brown 69 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: we'll get to in just a minute here, and they're 70 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: swapping out MPG for Cam Johnson. I don't think the 71 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: nugget it's got a lot better. I think Michael Porter 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: Junior is a little bit underrated at this point, just 73 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: because you know, he was like a top five recruit 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: out of high school. He was a guy who was 75 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: maybe gonna be the next Kevin Durant if he could 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: ever get his off the dribble game going. 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: That never came about in Denver. 78 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: But he's still a really good player and has been 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: more available than Cam Johnson has been for the Brooklyn Nets, 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: for the Phoenix Suns, which you know, you think of 81 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: MPG as an injury guy. There's definitely concerns about his back, 82 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: but he was pretty tough last year playing through that 83 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: shoulder injury. So do I think the Nuggets got a 84 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: lot better trading for Cam Johnson? 85 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Not really. 86 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: I think this is kind of a money move all 87 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: things considered, But I still like it for Denver because 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: they needed something to change up, I think, and maybe 89 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: the ball handling, the self creation that Cam Johnson brings 90 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: can be good for the Nuggets because they would definitely 91 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: struggle when Jokic would go to the bench and it 92 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: was Murray and MPG trying to run the show. So 93 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: I think a good move for Denver, not necessarily a 94 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: great changing move like challenge or title changing move. I'm 95 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: not totally convinced on that one. 96 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited this for this for the Nuggets just 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: because Cam Johnson. I believe it is a better offensive player. 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I know Michael Port Junior can. 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 2: Shoot that thing, but if you get Cam and Johnson 100 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: playing with a gravity like Nikoli. 101 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: Jokis, you'll see his numbers even go up even higher. 102 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: But basically they're the same as Michael Porter juniors. He's 103 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: a more solid defender. And yet Michael Port Junior obviously 104 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: a champion and played hard and was playing on one 105 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: shoulder after that terrible turnover. Why would you throw the 106 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: ball like that into the front court. Cam Johnson wouldn't 107 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: do that. I just think Cam Johnson will be playing 108 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: off Jokic a little bit better and can give it 109 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: on the defensive end. And you mentioned the money part 110 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: of things. I think this is the front office front officing. 111 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: They did really well. They turned a forty million player 112 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: into a twenty million dollar player, and now they have room. 113 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, they're gonna go get Bruce Bowen, which 114 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about in a second, as a veteran minimum guy, 115 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: and they can do some things off the bench. You 116 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: basically have a new starting lineup, Cam Johnson over Michael 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Port Junior, and improved bench by this new front office 118 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: that's taken over for Calvin Booth, that has two guys 119 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: who are basically the same. They have the same title. 120 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: They were like this split heead type guy Executive VP 121 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: of Basketball Operations for Ben Tenzer and John Wallace. Ben 122 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: Tenzer's more of the I know every job in the 123 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: organization type of guy, and John Wallace is the learn 124 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: everything around the NBA, develop relationships type of guy. So 125 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: there's the split mentality here, same title for both of 126 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: those guys. So I think they did a great job 127 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: in terms of the financial part, and I think Cam 128 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: Johnson will pay off. You do bring up a good 129 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: point that he is older than you think. I wouldn't 130 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: consider him a thirty year old. He's already gonna be 131 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: thirty next year. I just wouldn't think of him as that. 132 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: But I do think he's a baller. He can put 133 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: it on the floor a little bit better than Michael 134 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: Port Junior in my opinion, especially when the gravity comes. 135 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: He shoots the ball well. He was part of a 136 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: a team that went to the finals with the Phoenix Suns, 137 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: So I think he's got it. I think he's got 138 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: it all. And yeah, there was a time that needed 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: to change here in Denver. They just needed something new, 140 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: and I think this is smart in all facets here 141 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: for Tenser and John Wallace in this new front office. 142 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Cronky made put his foot in his mouth 143 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: talking about Nicola Jokic at their pre free agency press 144 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: conference right saying, we need to get underneath the tax 145 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: so we don't even have to think about. 146 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Trading number fifteen. 147 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 2: This gets them under the tax, but if they don't 148 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: actually use that money those exceptions that are now available 149 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: to go and get somebody that helps. I look at 150 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: this as just a salary dump. It's a good salary 151 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: dump being able to bring in Cam Johnson and essentially 152 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: replace what they're sending out in Michael Porter Junior. But 153 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 2: if trading a unprotected first round pick way down the line, 154 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: something that would be pretty valuable around the NBA, only 155 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: brings you back of a like for like player in 156 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: Cam Johnson, it turns into more of a business move 157 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: than a basketball move for me, because, yeah, Bruce Brown 158 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: definitely helps, but that's just one guy off the bench. 159 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: The Nuggets need multiple guys, and now they've opened up 160 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: avenues to be able to address that, to finally maybe 161 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: have a backup center for Nicola Jokic, which has not 162 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: been the case since he has been. 163 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: Playing in Denver. 164 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: I guess they drafted a center last year. He tore 165 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: his achilles right before the season started. Holmes should probably 166 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: be coming back this year. I don't know what you 167 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: can expect out of a rookie coming off a serious injury, 168 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: so there'll be an opportunity at the very least. But 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: I think the Nuggets can still get better with these 170 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: financial moves that they pulled, and you know, maybe Cam 171 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: Johnson is better for Michael Porter Junior. I think that 172 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: we're just expecting so much more from MPG that it 173 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: makes Cam Johnson look good in return because he is 174 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: kind of like hitting his potential, whereas MPG you think 175 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: there's something more out there. 176 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Maybe there isn't. 177 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I would like to see the 178 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: Nuggets continue to be active throughout free agency. 179 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: I do think Cam Johnson, yeah, has gotten he's gotten better. Frankly, 180 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: if you watched a lot of the Brooklyn Nets games 181 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: last year, which I'm sure a lot of people didn't, 182 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: he had to take that on upon himself as the 183 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: number one guy. He had to put it on the floor. 184 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: He had to create for himself. And I think there 185 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: will be space created by Jokic where those creations won't 186 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: be that hard. He's just going to be good at it. 187 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: I think he's he's very solid. Yes, he's a twenty 188 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: million dollar player versus a forty million dollar player in 189 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior that they had to pay after winning 190 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: the championship, and I just think you're in a good 191 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: spot here. It was a good contract from the Brooklyn 192 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: Nets and this is the time here for Cam Johnson 193 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: to show it on a bigger level. I think he's 194 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: that good. And for the Brooklyn Nets, yeah, they had 195 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: a twenty million dollar cap space that they had to 196 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: create something. They created an unprotected first round pick. So again, 197 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: I just think the front office was front officing very 198 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: well in Denver to see that opportunity and to jump 199 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: on it, to sick it, because that was what they 200 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: need to do, as you said, to get better in depth, 201 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: and what they did to well. 202 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it for the Nets. I think this 203 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: is actually a really good move for the Nets as well. 204 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: They got a lot younger. Michael Porter Junior still has 205 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: more upside than Cam Johnson has. Like I said, I 206 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: think he's a little bit underrated. He's probably gonna look 207 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: worse away from Jokic as a lot of these guys have. 208 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: You know, KCP has not been the same since he left. 209 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: Bruce Brown has not been the same since he left. 210 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: Maybe there's some self creation left in Michael Porter Junior. 211 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: He'll at least get to stretch his legs. Him and 212 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: Cam Thomas will be a hilarious pairing. And you know 213 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: that post Jokic first round pick, that might be great. 214 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: How are the Nuggets going to get a lot better 215 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: after Nicola Jokic leaves retires to Serbia to race horses. 216 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: By the time he's thirty seven. This pick is going 217 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: to be looking good for the Nets. So if you're 218 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: a rebuilding team, this is what you need to do, 219 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: take on big contracts and get juicy picks for it. 220 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: We're also looking at the team that's going to be 221 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: the worst team in the league in the Brooklyn Nets. 222 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: I saw Robbie callin tweet last night. NBA TV just 223 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: put the nets projected starting lineup on the screen and 224 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: it was a full on jump scare. As of right now, 225 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: they would probably be starting jegor Demon, their rookie Cam Thomas, 226 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: Terrence Mann, MPJ, and Nick Claxton. That looks like a 227 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: first in lottery odds kind of team to me. So 228 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: I think smart move by the Nets to get off 229 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 2: a desired player in Cam Johnson who doesn't mean a 230 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 2: lot for their team. Maybe they get a dice roll 231 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: in the future with MPJ, and then they get that 232 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: big one way down the line in twenty thirty two. 233 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: So I think good stuff for both teams. 234 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: Y well, let's get to the depth that Denver has 235 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: created now by going to get not only Cam Johnson here, 236 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: but also Bruce Brown. We're going back to twenty twenty 237 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: three in the championship, when Bruce Brown was coming off 238 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: the bench and having fun out there. They go and 239 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: get him for a veteran minimum contract, which seems extremely 240 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: low for Bruce Brown and a guy who helped them 241 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: win a championship just a couple of years ago. Ain't 242 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: that old yet? What do you feel about Bruce Brown 243 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: join the Nugs. 244 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: I like it, but I swear I haven't seen Bruce 245 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: Brown play basketball since he left Denver. I know he 246 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: was there in Indiana. I know he was a Toronto 247 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: Raptor somehow. I even know that he finished the season 248 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: with the New Orleans Pelicans last season. But I feel 249 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: like all I've seen from Bruce Brown since leaving Denver 250 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 2: is him wearing cowboy suits on the sideline and then 251 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: getting involved in these transactions. 252 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: He's going to be thirty by the playoffs. 253 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: The best season he's ever had was that year in 254 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: Denver when he was on a player option and then 255 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: was able to cash out at the end of the season. 256 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: If he's able to shoot thirty six percent from three 257 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: like he did in Denver, awesome. If he's a thirty 258 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: three percent shooter like he was the rest of his 259 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: NBA career not quite as awesome, but I like him 260 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: being able or I like I would bet on him 261 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: being able to rediscover what made him great playing in Denver. 262 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: And honestly, they just needed guys. Like we said, by 263 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: the end of Game seven, they were scratching the bottom 264 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: of the barrel. So getting anybody who's reliable and a 265 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: veteran presence is going to be good. Julian Strother did 266 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: have a moment in the playoffs. Maybe Jaln Pickett improves, 267 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: Maybe Peyton Watson becomes something besides a defensive specialist. I 268 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: don't know if I would be betting on that one, 269 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: but they're getting closer and closer to the necessary seven 270 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: to eight guys you need in the playoffs, because as 271 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: we saw last postseason, they didn't have that. So as 272 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: long as they're able to get Bruce Brown back on track, 273 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: and as long as they're able to do something with 274 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: that little bit of money that they opened up, I 275 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: will be happy with the Nuggets. But does Bruce Brown 276 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: on a minimum change things. I'm not totally convinced, but 277 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: that's just because I haven't been totally convinced by what 278 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: he's done in the NBA since he left Yokich. 279 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been two seasons coming off surgery where he 280 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: was hurt and came back and had to start with 281 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these teams. Now he'll be off the bench. 282 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: We'll see if he can get that. Back to twenty 283 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: twenty three when the Denver Nuggets and Calvin Booth said 284 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: we'll just let him go because he did get a 285 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: monstrous contract from the Indiana Pacers. He got paid twenty 286 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: two million and twenty three million over two years, and 287 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets weren't going into the tax. That's what 288 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: it was about. It was about the dollars, and unfortunately 289 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: they lost some of them that they had. They just 290 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: lost some of that locker room that they had. We 291 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: saw Nikola Jokicic being that type of guy trying to 292 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: put the team on his back last season. That was 293 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: Bruce Brown's kind of role. He just yelled a lot, 294 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: he talked a lot. We were both at the finals 295 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. We saw him in practices. He 296 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: was their mo O and that's why they went and 297 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: got Russell Westbrook to come off the bench to be 298 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: that type of guy. Now Bruce Brown goes back to 299 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: the bench, there's no way he's going to start. I 300 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,119 Speaker 1: would consider him the best player on the bench immediately 301 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: if he's you know, playing well. You mentioned all the 302 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: guys in Strouther and Peyton Watson and maybe Jaalen Pickett, 303 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: young guys who can improve, but Bruce Brown if he 304 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: can come back to that guy, and I don't think 305 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: it's a big if. I think there's a good chance 306 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: that he can do that, he'll be the best. But 307 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: guy off the bench. He's still fairly young. He's going 308 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: to be twenty nine soon or birthday. Bros Me and Bruce, 309 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: and so as long as the injury hasn't worn him down. 310 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: You know, watching him with the Toronto Raptors, he tried 311 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: to do a little too much where he was a 312 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: starter and maybe this is my new role. Maybe he 313 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: was flashing back to his Brooklyn Net days when he started, 314 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: where they were trying to just run him as the 315 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: sort of that swing guy in the starting lineup. He 316 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: just has to be Bruce Brown again, and at least 317 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: the Nuggets have that vibe back where they're trying to 318 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: make that up for the flub. It was, honestly, it 319 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: was a flub. As soon as they let him go 320 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: and now they're trying to rectify that. So we'll see 321 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: if it works. It should in theory, I think it does. 322 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: If Bruce Brown's the best player on their bench, they 323 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: still don't really have a bench because the guy's on 324 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: a veteran minimum and it means everybody else is a 325 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: question mark. They need to see significant improvement from the 326 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: guys that they let case p go for that they 327 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: Bruce Brown once upon a time go for, because those 328 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: guys still haven't been replaced now they're kind of just 329 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: getting back to square one. Like you said, Bruce Brown 330 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: left because of financials. The Michael Porter Junior trade was 331 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: because of financials. Even though Stan Kronky is one of 332 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: the wealthiest owners in the NBA, they could be overspending 333 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: into the second apron if they wanted. They could have 334 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: a better bench if they wanted. It makes things tricky 335 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: with team building going forward. But as long as Bruce 336 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: Brown's able to get back to the form that we've 337 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: seen in Denver, I'll remind you literally only one season 338 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: that we have seen this. If he's able to do 339 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: that again, I think this is great for the Nuggets, 340 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: and he just seems like a fun guy to have around, 341 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: Like you're saying, he's got a personality, he's got a 342 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: little bit of attitude, and he's got a lot of 343 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: versatility that the Nuggets definitely need. So, like I've been 344 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: saying the entire time, they still need to make another 345 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: move because I don't think they have a backup big guy. 346 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: It ain't Sharitch, it ain't Zeke Nausey, and I'm not 347 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: totally sure that Sharp is going to be our homes 348 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: is going to be the guy, but we shall see. Nonetheless, 349 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: I think a good day yesterday for the Nuggets, considering 350 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: they didn't have a ton of avenues to get better. 351 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's exactly what Adam Silver was saying 352 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: when he got to the podium in the draft. Nobody 353 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: can win back to back champions this essentially, No, there 354 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: aren't teams that can just say, hey, we're adding to 355 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: the top of our roster, go top heavy and be 356 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: good for a long period of time. But there is 357 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: there is one. Yes, they just created that they Yes, 358 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: So I guess he was sort of wrong in saying 359 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: and not referring to Okay, see as this name, he 360 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: just saw seven champions in seven years. Yeah, Yeah, but 361 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: then he started talking about OKAC in Indiana a lot 362 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: and said, we are in the heartland of America. 363 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so getting Cam Johnson for MPJ adding Bruce Brown, 364 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 2: does this put the Nuggets on the Thunders level for 365 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 2: you now? 366 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: But they're super close. I do think we're talking about 367 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: the bench. At twenty twenty three when they won the championship, 368 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: Bruce Brown was their best player. Why can't they be 369 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: that because they are so good? That was two years ago. Yeah, yeah, 370 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: So Bruce Brown just ain't that same guy. He hasn't been. No, 371 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: he hasn't been, but he's also been starting now he 372 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: just needs to go to that patch. We just saw 373 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: that Denver Nuggets take Okaycee to seven games, and I 374 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: do think, no matter what Adam Silver said, no matter 375 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: how many times I refer to it, this is a 376 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: league that refer or that relies on the stars. Nikolaie 377 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: Okitch is fricking that good and he can take his 378 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: team that far. Now they do need a backup, sure, 379 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: they need guys. Last year running Westbrook and Sharich and 380 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: Strawther and Peyton Watson did not work out. So the 381 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: only thing that's really different from that twenty twenty three 382 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: championship is Christian Brown has now replaced KCP. Bruce Brown 383 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: is a couple of years older, and they do lack 384 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: a tiny bit of depth on the bench. Ye, Jeff 385 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: gree was solid for that team. Jeff Green was solid. Yeah, 386 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: Calvin Booth couldn't bring the same two guys back. Yeah, 387 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: they're paying for it now. I mean they paid for it. 388 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: And that's why you saw Jokic more mad than I've 389 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: ever seen more mad than when his horse doesn't do 390 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: things for him. I don't think he gets mad at 391 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: his horses. I take that back, but I've never been 392 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: mad at a horse, and I agree, but I've never 393 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: seen Yokic more mad. He just needed more guys, and 394 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: that's exactly why they brought Russell Westbrook in there, who 395 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: could return with this team. There is that possibility of 396 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: him coming back because he was good for them. Yeah. 397 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: I do think they're close to okay. See, I mean 398 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: talent wise, depth wise, and that's what I'm silver was 399 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: talking about. You go on the run through ten deep 400 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: now in terms of an NBA roster, that's what we're 401 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: doing here. No, they don't have that type of depth. 402 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: There's no doubt they don't have that type of depth, 403 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: but Jokich up top is damn good. 404 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got Jokich, which is the main thing, and 405 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: they're still trying to win around Jokich. 406 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: But I think they can be doing more. 407 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: They can certainly be spending more, and that's kind of 408 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: been the story for the Nuggets since they win the championship. 409 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: It's been all financial moves since then rather than basketball 410 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: moves necessarily. 411 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: And they have the opportunity now turning a forty million 412 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: dollar player and Michael Port Junior into a twenty million 413 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: dollar player in Cam Johnson. They have that opportunity. You 414 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: only spend a vet minimum on Bruce Brown. We'll see 415 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: what they do. Otherwise, moving on, we're coming here to 416 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: Atlanta local team Nikhil Alexander Walker signing with the Atlanta 417 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: Hawks four years, sixty two million dollars. What do you 418 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: think about not joining the Atlanta Hawks bench tray, I'm 419 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: benching him. I'm already benching him. I shouldn't say that immediately. Yeah, Yeah, 420 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. 421 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen and a half million dollars average annual value. 422 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: He starts at twenty seven years old, so Basically, the 423 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: Hawks are going to be paying him through his prime years. 424 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: You gotta love that. Also, they use the trade exception. 425 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: Trade exceptions hardly ever get used in the NBA, but 426 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: the Hawks actually found a way to use it. They're 427 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: getting a secondary ball handler in Nikile Alexander Walker. He's 428 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: obviously a good defensive player as well, and then a 429 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: good three point shooter. I think he had an up 430 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: and down playoffs, but had some good moments for sure 431 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: for the Timberwolves. There it is a question mark though, 432 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: like is he going to start? I don't really know, 433 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: because he's a better offensive player I think than Dyson 434 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: Daniels and Zach Arshiashe. I think if you're like slotting 435 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: the defenders up between those three, it would go Daniels 436 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: and then Nikil Alexander Walker and then Resa Sa. Probably 437 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: he is smaller than both of them, so I think 438 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: you're probably choosing between Daniels and Nikkeil Alexander Walker. But 439 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: Daniels just had such an awesome season. Most improved Player 440 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: all defense kind of guide. Perhaps Nikhil Alexander Walker starts 441 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: at small forward for Zacharychiachet, but I doubt that's the case. 442 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: So more than likely. 443 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: You're right, he's coming off the bench, and this would 444 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: be an awesome defensive substitution, an awesome backcourt rotation, because, 445 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: like we've been talking with the Hawks since the Porzingis trade, 446 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: they need somebody else to come and handle the ball, 447 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 2: and I think Nikhil Alexander Walker, if he ends up 448 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: being the third guard for the Hawks, is a big 449 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 2: time upgrade over Kris LeVert, who did decent in his 450 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: little stint here and is let in Atlanta. 451 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: So I like the. 452 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: Hawks seeing Nikail Alexander Walker actually come available after the 453 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: Randall and Read deals for Minnesota and Striking while using 454 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 2: the assets that they have available so to be able 455 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: to get him for a second round pick and pay 456 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: him a pretty good contract like Gonna. You're not breaking 457 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: the bank at sixteen million per season, But that's nice 458 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: for Nikhil Alexander Walker. It's a nice bump for him. 459 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: So I think good stuff for Atlanta and Ohnci Sale here. 460 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Auntie Sale killing it so far with the move 461 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: on to get probably the more favorable h draft pick 462 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: next year of the Bucks or the Pelicans, whoever's worse. 463 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: That's their pick. Now it's necessarily going to be an 464 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: incredible pick. We'll see about that. But to go along 465 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: with Chris Aaps Worzingis and now Nikil Alexander Walker and 466 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: another move that they made we'll get to it looks 467 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: incredibly solid, especially because you know that they're building around 468 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: Trey Young. These are the type of guys to pair 469 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: with Trey Young to be on ball defenders in naw 470 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: and Dyson Daniels, who was awesome last year. Doesn't look 471 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: like Trey Young is going anywhere. They've just built so 472 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: many type of guys around Trey Young, Zachary Resa Schet 473 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: and his length, Jalen Johnson and his length. I mean, 474 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: they could do different things. And so when I say 475 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: he's coming off the bench, maybe and maybe not, maybe 476 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: you start him alongside Dyson Daniels and Trey Young and 477 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: Zachary Resa Sche can be your four. He's only twenty 478 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: years old. I see those videos of him working out. 479 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson to the bench, yeah, yeah, just enrolling situations. No, 480 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: he's not going to Jalan Johnson's not coming off the bench, 481 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: but he's got to be able to play on the floor. 482 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that there's multiple things that they can 483 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: do like Christops can start at the five, and there 484 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: are lineups where a Nek and Kongu can start beside him, 485 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: and Jalen Johnson can play the three. I mean, there 486 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: are so many things, and there's so many ball handlers, 487 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: as you said, now with Na and Dyson Daniels who 488 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: got better at that as being the secondary ball handler, 489 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: and Jalen Johnson is a damn good ball handler. Now 490 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: they lose Karris Lavert, which we'll get to, who was 491 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: a good ball handler and a decent guy. Bought Nikhil 492 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: Alexander Walker, a very very good player in his prime here. 493 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: As you said, it's it's a no lose situation, and 494 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: for him he gets three years guaranteed plus a player 495 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: option into year number four, so it's good money for 496 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: him as well. The Hawks just seem like this team 497 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: that's can throw all these arms at you to go 498 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: around Trey Young. Excuse me, With Trey there in your 499 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: back court, you need incredible defenders around him. Every single 500 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: one of these guys I mentioned can play d so 501 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: they've just got an incredibly good team beside them. They 502 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: go big, they go small. As I said, it's nice 503 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: to see Trey Young not getting all those rumors, Oh 504 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna be gone now, He's going to be there 505 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: at the very least for this next season. I guess 506 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: things can go things can go bad. But Tray Young, 507 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: by all accounts, is in the you know, the back 508 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: end of things, being vocal about who he wants, and 509 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: Nikile Alexander was a guy he wanted and you could 510 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: just tell if you throw Nikile Alexander Walker out there 511 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: with Trey Young and Dyson Daniels again, the other team 512 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: is going to have trouble bringing up the ball up 513 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: the floor. This is a very very good couple guys 514 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: to throw out there with Trey Young. 515 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 516 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: I do think Resa Cha is probably getting squeezed a 517 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: little bit with this deal, but that's fine. The Hawks 518 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: have a lot of depth, and the Tray Young piece 519 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: of it is interesting because this is a well built 520 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: team around Trey Young. As we're saying, they got backup 521 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: ball handlers that they need. We'll get to Canard in 522 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: a second here, but like even that guy can run 523 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: a pick and roll in a pinch. 524 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: If you need so. 525 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: They have addressed their backup creation, which I think is 526 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: an issue for the Hawks. Their defense has gotten a 527 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: lot better. So Trey Young has this season under contract, 528 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: he's got I believe a player option for next year, 529 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: so he's extension eligible. But like you're saying, if things 530 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: go poorly for the Hawks this season, imagine Porzingis just 531 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: isn't able to stay healthy on the court. All of 532 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: these guys take a step back, and the team somehow finishes, 533 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: you know, like forty three wins, not the big jump 534 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: that everybody's expecting. You know, they won forty this season, 535 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: but right now it feels like this team should be 536 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: a top four playoff team in the East. Let's say 537 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: it all goes perfectly wrong for the Hawks and they 538 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: don't really reach the heights that everybody's expecting here on 539 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: July first, they can still trade Trey Young next season, right, 540 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: and then they had Nikhil, Alexander Walker, Dyson Daniels in town, 541 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 2: Resa che Johnson, whatever they would decide to do with Porzingis, 542 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: who's an unexpiring deal as well. 543 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: They're still outs. 544 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: For Atlanta, especially since they did that deal for the 545 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: Pelicans slash Bucks pick, which the Bucks side of things 546 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: is looking nicer and nicer as the off season goes on. 547 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: The Hawks are doing a. 548 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: Good job of going for it with Trey and probably 549 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: giving him his last chance and his best built team 550 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: around him. 551 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: But if it goes poorly, there's still ways. 552 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 2: To pivot and have a future in Atlanta, which I 553 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: don't think was the case after the first de Jontay 554 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: Murray trade when they traded a bunch of first round 555 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: picks and first round swaps to the Spurs. Things are 556 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: looking more and more stable in Atlanta, and the team 557 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: looks a lot better as well. 558 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely, it didn't look good when they trade for 559 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: Jontay Murray. When you turn around for de Jontay Murray 560 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: going out for Dyson Daniels and a first round pick, 561 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: things are getting better and better, as we've said, including 562 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: that first round pick, which may be Milwaukee's first round 563 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: pick next season. So you're saying that it could be 564 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: incredible for Atlanta because Milwaukee and what they've done so 565 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: far this offseason ain't looking all that good. Yeah, Yeah, 566 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: that's bus possible for sure. 567 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're down two starters so far, Lillard out for 568 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: the season, Lopez is a Clipper. If Jannis misses forty games, 569 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: the Bucks pick is going to be in the same 570 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: realm as the Pelicans. 571 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, it's it's the other way. If Yanis 572 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: is playing, like because he's Yannis, that's the they're gonna 573 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: win games because he'sis at a Goobo. So it's going 574 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: to be like a you know, a middle of the 575 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: pack type of draft pick. 576 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: The Pelicans is more likely to be the one that 577 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: conveys to the Hawks for sure, But like I think 578 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: that it would be when they did the trade. I 579 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: think you would say ninety ten it's going to be 580 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: the Pelicans picks going to the Hawks. Now, maybe like 581 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: seventy five to twenty five Pelicans over Bucks. 582 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: But we'll see. Yeah, I'm interested to see what John 583 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: Horst in the front office with the Bucks do. Is 584 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: there's nothing they can do, no, no, in terms of 585 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: Janis Is playing, and maybe they just say, hey, let's 586 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: just get super bad if we can manage to get 587 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: a pick here and there, just to be able to say, 588 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: Yani's just sit, we just want you to sit now. 589 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: I say that, and they've given away they can't do basically, 590 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: they're picks and is going to the Hawks. It's likely 591 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: going to the Hawks, yeah, if they if they're super bad. Yeah, 592 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: but maybe they can that's that's the that's the conversation 593 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: right now, is let's trade Yannis out so we get 594 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: our pick back to the Hawks. Yeah, well yes, yes, yeah, 595 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: they are Jalen Johnson. 596 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: That might be the best player they could get back 597 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: for Yannis at this point. 598 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 599 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: I mean that's definitely interesting for the Hawks too, right, 600 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: Like they've positioned themselves to at least be the Yanna 601 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 2: Soup sweepstakes if it ever opens up. 602 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have. It would be Jalleen Johnson. It would 603 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: be getting their pick back. And yeah, I guess I 604 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: say that back. I say, sit Janis, I take that 605 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: all back, because really they can't at this point with 606 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: the way the trades have gone. Yeah, they got to 607 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: go get their pick back somehow if if they want to, 608 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: sit Yanis to be bad. But here we are here, 609 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: Janis is in July. Here, this is the exact same 610 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: team that the Milwaukee Bucks are going to run back 611 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: that they had last year, minus Broke Loop as obviously 612 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: minus Damian Lillard. But it is Giannis. They're just gonna 613 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: be a there's gonna be a fine They're gonna be 614 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: a fine team. They can't be bad. They can't be 615 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: good at this point. Anyway, we'll get into them the 616 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: Yannis talks a little bit later. Sticking with the Hawks, 617 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: they made one other deal, signing Luke Canard one year, 618 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: eleven million dollars for Big Luke, the active leader in 619 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: three point percentage in the in NBA history. That's pretty 620 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: solid to say, hey, we've got that guy. If you're 621 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: a numbers skiek forty three point eight for his career. Again, 622 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 1: active leader of anybody in the NBA. They got him 623 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: off the bench. He's definitely coming off the bench. Luke 624 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: to the Hawks, what do you think? 625 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: This is the first Hawks move that I wasn't like, 626 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: oh Man, Ancey killed it, But then I thought about 627 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: it and I was like, Aunci kind of killed it. 628 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: Here he's giving you the three point shooting. A big 629 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: portion of the reason that Canard shoots so well is 630 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: because he only takes wide open shots because it takes 631 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: him forever to shoot a three. He just doesn't have 632 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: a very quick release. But when he shoots it, it 633 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: usually is going in. Like we mentioned earlier, he can 634 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: handle the ball for a second unit. He can create 635 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: for a second unit, though Nikhil Alexander Walker will do 636 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: some of that as well, So I think that is 637 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: a nice pairing of those. 638 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: Two coming off the bench. 639 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: Plus Luke Canard right now is on an eleven million 640 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: dollar contract he just signed with the Hawks, becomes expiring immediately. 641 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: Teams are always interested in shooting, though that was the 642 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: case last year and the Grizzlies weren't able to trade 643 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: him at all. However, the Hawks, if they wanted to, 644 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: could include that New Orleans Slash Bucks first round pick 645 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six, eleven million dollar expiring contract on 646 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: a shooter who can help other teams, plus a valuable 647 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: pick that could bring back a real player for the 648 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: Hawks if they decide in February they want to beef 649 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: up even more, so good stuff once again from Atlanta. 650 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: They turned Bogdan Bogdanovich and DeAndre Hunter into Terrence Mann, 651 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: George Niang and Karris Lavert. Then they turned those guys 652 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 2: plus the twenty two pick into Porzingis Nikhil, Alexander Walker, 653 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: Luke Canard, the twenty three pick which turned into Asa 654 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: newle and this pick in twenty twenty six from the 655 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: Pelicans or the Bucks. So they got better players and 656 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: they got better assets. And it's been one week since 657 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: this guy has been on the job. Perfect start to 658 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: his tenure. 659 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: With the Hawks. 660 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: Let's see what they look like when they're actually on 661 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: the court together. Yeah, it looks nice right now though, 662 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: So I'm feeling optimistic for Atlanta here. 663 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, being a local guy here is the most positive 664 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: that you can be watching this front office do their 665 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: thing in years, in a very long time, in probably 666 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: a decade. I mean, they did some good things right 667 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: before they went to the conference finals in twenty twenty. 668 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: That was a good year. But Anci Silat has done 669 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: extremely well. It does matter if they can play. And 670 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: so Kristap Sporting is a very good basketball player. But 671 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: when we see him on the floor for a long 672 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: time this year to be determined, we will see if 673 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: he can play. That being said, they can throw out 674 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: so many different lineups like they do have other capable 675 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: bigs now with Anika kagu Jalen Johnson and zacharysa Chet 676 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: who's only twenty is only gonna get better. So it 677 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: just seems like they've built up some depth. They do 678 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: have a bunch of guys here in Atlanta now. Luke Kenard, 679 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: yes he's he's a shooter, and when he was drafted 680 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: way long ago with the Detroit Pistons. He was supposed 681 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: to be a creator, and I think he is a 682 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: pretty good creator coming off the bench to some degree. 683 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: You can see the assist numbers there with Memphis, and 684 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: he's decent at that. And so saying goodbye to Karas Slavert, 685 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: I think is totally okay. Considering all these guys that 686 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: can now put the ball on the floor, I think 687 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: Canard can do that a little bit along with Nikailexander 688 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: Walker and Trey and Dyson Daniels. It goes on and 689 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: on and on. Now he's not an incredible defender. If 690 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: there's anybody in that rotation that's not a good defender 691 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: along with Trey Jung, it's this guy. But they just 692 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: don't have many bed defenders. So I don't think you're gonna 693 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: see too much Lukenard with Trey Young, He's just gonna 694 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: be this guy who comes off the bench while Trey 695 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: is sitting, probably, but they have a bunch of guys. 696 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: He's obviously a good shooter, as we've said. So, yeah, 697 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: it seems like eleven million dollars for only one year. 698 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Why Why does it seem a little high? I guess, 699 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: but Lukenard's probably saying this is a contract year for me. 700 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: Uh and he's gonna try and get paid again in 701 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: a year. And Anti Salle does a very good job 702 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: here of not saying or not paying a bunch of 703 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: guys for a long term where he can still keep 704 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: things flexible in twelve months. 705 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. I like we were talking about with 706 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: Trey earlier. If things go bad, they're still outs here, 707 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: and that includes Canard's contract being up at the end 708 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: of the year. I think Canard makes more sense to 709 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: this team after than Nikhail Alexander Walker move than Kars 710 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: Lover would have. So we'll see if he actually decides 711 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: to shoot and if he does. 712 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: Cool. All right, let's move on to what feels like 713 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: kind of the end of an era with the Milwaukee Bucks. 714 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: Basically everybody from the twenty twenty championship team besides Giannis 715 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: leaving Brook Lopez is going to twenty one? Did I 716 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: say yes? 717 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 718 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty was that was a good Lakers twenty twenty 719 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I'll say both years? Are we done 720 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: saying both years? Now? In terms of an NBA season, 721 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: it feels like people are now going to the in 722 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one year. 723 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: Well, they've never used the first year, Like you said, 724 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty champions. If you say, yeah, no it's 725 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: the Lakers. Yeah, but I mean I think yes, I 726 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: think the twenty twenty of it makes it a little confusing. Yeah, 727 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: I just mean in terms of you would say if 728 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 2: the thunder were the twenty five champions, Yeah, exactly, exactly. 729 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: That's happening more than it used to happen. Sure, and 730 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: it feels better. I mean, it's just it's easier to 731 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: better or to reference that. It does feel better. Brook 732 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: Lopez leaving the Milwaukee Bucks, agreeing with the Los Angeles 733 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: Clippers to a two year, eighteen million dollar deal. Chris 734 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: Middleton gone, Brook Lopez gone, Drew Holiday gone. Kind of 735 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: an end of the era in Milwaukee. But what do 736 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: you think about brook definitely coming off the bench in 737 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: Los Angeles? Now. 738 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: I think this is a good get for the Clippers. 739 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: They needed size off the bench. They've shuffled through guys 740 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: in the past couple of seasons as Zubots has gotten 741 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: better and better. They still have small ball five options, 742 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 2: but brook Lopez at only nine million dollars a year. 743 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: That's a really good price for a backup center, and 744 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 2: he's going to be a good one. He plays defense 745 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 2: similarly to Zubots. I think Zubots is probably a little 746 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: bit more switchable, but both in general would like to 747 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: play drop coverage, so not gonna have to be a 748 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 2: lot of scheme change for the Clippers. But Lopez definitely 749 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 2: gives you different offensive style than Zubots. Is a pick 750 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: and roll player predominantly, also a decent post player. 751 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: Lopez can post up, but the guy's. 752 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: Going to pop threes, which I think is a nice 753 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: curveball for the Clippers to add. It's also only a 754 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: forty minute drive from the into It Dome to Disneyland, 755 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 2: which surely had to factor into Brooks Lopez's choices here. 756 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 2: So I think this is a win for LA to 757 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 2: be able to pick up Lopez on pretty decent contract 758 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 2: for a backup center. Two years, eighteen million, that's what 759 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 2: guys are going for right now, and that was an 760 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: area of need for LA. 761 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: The Disney discount, as our man John Hollandrew put it, Yeah, 762 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: two years eighteen is nothing, and this is the first 763 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: time he's coming off the bench forever. He does play 764 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: a lot of games, which kind of doesn't go talked 765 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: about Brook Lopez, but he's here to be that backup 766 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: to guard Jokic. I think would help. He would be 767 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: he would have been big in that series Clippers Nuggets 768 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: instead of Ben Simmons or Nicola Bitoom, just to throw 769 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: out there against Jokic and to stretch him at the 770 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: other end because he's out there. So that would have 771 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: helped a little bit. Yes, a smart move I think 772 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles Slippers. 773 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: Now they're old, yes, yeah, but this is a backup center, 774 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: that's right. That's the good thing. They've got a starting 775 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: center who is actually their Jokic stopper. In Zubots, he's 776 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: their main and he's one of the better Yokic defenders. Now, 777 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: Yogic is gonna put up a thirty point triple double 778 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: on him every single night, but he might have to 779 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: work for it. So I think that Lopez, this is nice. 780 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: You want him as a backup center at this point 781 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: in his career. He just can't function as well if 782 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 2: he's having a sprint up and down the court for 783 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: thirty minutes a game. So if they're able to get 784 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: him twenty minutes a game, playing his tempo, his style. 785 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: That's good for LA. Yeah, and he still alters shots 786 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: back there. But yes, the Clippers again, they're just getting 787 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: older and older and older. Although they do have some 788 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 1: financial flexibility going forward because of that incredible contract they've 789 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: got for Vitza Zubats. It's so cheap to go along 790 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: with Kawhi and James Harden. Will they bring Norman Powell 791 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: back or will they go get another starting guard to 792 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: help out in replacement of Chris Dunn potentially because you're 793 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: going to see Harden, Kawhi, Zubats, those are locked in 794 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: as you're starting Big three. We'll see what they can do. 795 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: They've got some depth. You got an announcement for us shake. 796 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: Gil Just Alexander just signed a four year, two hundred 797 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 2: and eighty five million dollars super maximum contract extension with 798 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: the Thunder through twenty thirty thirty one, richest annual salary 799 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: for a player in league history. 800 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: Do you think he deserves it? 801 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he just won finals, MVP, MVP, the scoring 802 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: title in a championship. 803 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: But does he deserve it? Does he deserve seventy one 804 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: million dollars per season? Wow? Yeah, so that would be 805 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: the most ever that's ever ever? Yes, yes, yes, is 806 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: it single season? Yes, that's the most ever. That's the 807 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 1: most ever, although it could be topped soon. Apparently Devin 808 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: Booker could be signed to a MAX contract very soon earlier. 809 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so he gets the little bump, but uh, yeah, 810 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: this is awesome. I'm at some point, shake guil just 811 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 2: Alexander is going to be making a million dollars per game. 812 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: It's very very much, very very close. Yeah, paid for that. 813 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 2: Do you think that phone call took Sam Prestyan, SGA's agent, 814 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: negotiating his contract after just having the best season in 815 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: Thunder history and one of the greatest guard seasons we've 816 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: seen since Michael Jordan. Five seconds? 817 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: About five seconds, I guess he calls his agent and says, 818 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: I could make more money if I hold off until 819 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: next year, right, I think? And now if I'm I'm 820 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: doing the front office CBA thing because it's two years 821 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: he's under contract, he's signing a four year extension. If 822 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: he waits till next year, can he sign a five 823 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: year deal or wait two years to sign a five 824 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: year deal that's worth more? Whatever, I'm being a loser 825 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 1: about numbers about how much he's getting paid per game. Yes, 826 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: it took two seconds yep to say, hello, cool, sign 827 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: me nice, that's a lot of money. Sign me a 828 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: contract extension since being traded to the Thunder. The first 829 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: one was like, ooh, are you so sure you want to? 830 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: And he told Andrew Schlect, yeah, we're going to win 831 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: and it's not going to take very long. And he 832 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: was right. It's worked out very well. Congrats to Shake Gildas, Alexander. 833 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: Are we going to say congrats to the Houston Rockets 834 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: for this signing. They signed Clint Cappella, which was an 835 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: interesting move because they have a lot of centers already. 836 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: I'll brin Cheng Gooon is there, Steven Adams is there, 837 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: and now they got a third one three years, twenty 838 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: one point five million dollars for Clint Coppella to be 839 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: their third center. 840 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 2: I suppose sometimes second center. 841 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: I would say. 842 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 2: I would say that that's kind of the move. 843 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: Here. 844 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 2: Shout out to Malvernie. It's going to be a long season. 845 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: You better stock up on centers because now they've got three, 846 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 2: basically in Shng Guon who was an All Star last season, 847 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: Steven Adams. They did the deal for him three years 848 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: thirty nine? Yeah, is that what he ended up got paying. 849 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: That's too much now that I think about it, especially 850 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: when they signed Capella to a seven million. 851 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: Per year deal for three years. 852 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: You're talking twenty million dollars for your backup center. For 853 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: Klopez just went for nine million dollars as a backup center, 854 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 2: So that's kind of weird. But the Rockets are definitely 855 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: committed to the double big lineup, which we saw have 856 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,439 Speaker 2: success for them during the regular season and especially during 857 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 2: the playoffs. And of course they've got to go up 858 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 2: against Nicola Jokic, so it helps to have different sets 859 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: of guys to throw against him. Because when you're looking 860 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 2: at specifically Rockets versus Nuggets, I think you would say 861 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 2: biggest advantage is Jokic over the centers for the Rockets. There, 862 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 2: so Cappella and Adams both thirty one years old, you 863 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 2: probably want to limit how often they have to play 864 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 2: and how many minutes they have to play, so like literally, 865 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 2: if they want it, it could be Clint Capella, you're 866 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: the backup center for tonight, Steven Adams, you're the backup 867 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: center for tonight, and then just switch every other game. 868 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 2: If they want to get those guys the forty one games. 869 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: But uh, Rockets are a huge team. Now. It's like 870 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 2: they've got these three guys at center. Jabari Smith Junior 871 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 2: can play small ball five, Kevin Durant can play small 872 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 2: ball five, Dorian Finney Smith can play small ball five. 873 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of options there. 874 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 2: So I think it was a little weird to invest 875 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 2: this much in Capella, But maybe he comes in handy 876 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 2: if Adams goes down with an injury or something like 877 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: that and you still want to have that double big option. 878 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: Totally. You're right about the length of a season and 879 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: just being able to throw guys at Nikola Jokic like 880 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: those twenty twenty champion Lakers did when they threw out 881 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, Dwight, Here you go, Jae McGee, here you go, 882 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: just basically to bang Nikol Jokich. Now do you have 883 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: to do that to have three guys? I mean, it 884 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: does sound like a lot. And how big this team is. 885 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: Jingo and Adams Kapella at your center, Jabari Smith, Dorian 886 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: Finney Smith, you can call them your power forwards. Aman Thompson, 887 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: Tarry Easton, Kevin Durant there at the small Ford or 888 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: maybe Kevin Durant's going to go back to his Seattle 889 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 1: Sonics days in his rookie year where he's playing shooting 890 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: guard with PJ Carlissimo. This team is huge. I guess 891 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: they do lack a little bit of ball hamling Fred 892 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: van Vliet their number one ball handler, all good there. 893 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: Otherwise his backup guards Reach epperd who barely didn't play 894 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: last year, and Cam Witmore to go along with with 895 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. They have Aaron Holliday. That's what they got 896 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: to be a ball handler. So maybe they go and 897 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: get another one just to round out the roster in 898 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: terms of rotation. But you are going to see a 899 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: lot of length from Imau Doka, that's for sure. It 900 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: is Copella at three years, a little bit too much 901 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: money and length, I guess. I mean he is past 902 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: his best days. But at seven million, what's strict? What's 903 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: really going to be a third center? I guess it's 904 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: totally fine if he's not. 905 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: That's a lot of money for a third center. 906 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, but they can afford How can they 907 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: afford it? 908 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 2: Well, they're probably gonna They're either gonna cut Jock Clandale 909 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: or find a way to trade cam Witmore to afford it. Really, 910 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: and then they're given these longer deals, like three years 911 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 2: is kind of a lot for Capella. He's kind of 912 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 2: looked washed here in Atlanta. He's thirty one years old. 913 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 2: Four years is a long contract for Dorian Finney Smith. 914 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 2: But you give these older players that kind of security, 915 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 2: and that's why they're on the Rockets and not on 916 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 2: the Lakers. 917 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: Right, Just just a bit of a of a payday here. 918 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, depth wise, he probably isn't gonna play 919 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: a lot. He's gonna play as much as Jacques Landale 920 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: did last year, but it is a pay savings than 921 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: what Jock was getting. But yeah, it's not a good contract. 922 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: And yeah they out of a Landale Fandale for a 923 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 2: second there. But Capella is better than Landale is yeah, yeah. 924 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And when you saw him go out there 925 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 1: as a backup with the Atlanta Hawks, he was capable. 926 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: He's still as capable when and Yaka Congu took over 927 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: the starting type of minutes. So they have an incredible, 928 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: incredible roster. Would you throw them close to the ok 929 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: see sphere of things? Oh definitely, I as of right now. 930 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 2: I mean, they finished number two in the West, so 931 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 2: not a hot take, but I think Rockets are the 932 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 2: biggest competition to the Thunder going into next season. 933 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. 934 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: The other takeaway I had for this is, once Lopez 935 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 2: went to the Clippers and Capella went to the Rockets, 936 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 2: it's like all sites are set on DeAndre Ayton going 937 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: to the Lakers. I guess they probably just got to 938 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 2: figure out the contract for him. But as of right now, 939 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 2: the Lakers don't really have a starting center, and they 940 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 2: need a starting center going forward, so I have to 941 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: imagine that there are some serious conversations going on there. 942 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, there aren't a lot of bigs that are available. 943 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: Obviously Myles Turner's still available, but the Lakers can't afford 944 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: that that ain't gonna happen. So it does feel like 945 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: Deandretan's going to be there. We talked about him yesterday 946 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: on our free agency podcast as the time ticked down 947 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: that Deandrayton could be there in Los Angeles. He ain't 948 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 1: the best fit for a Luka Doncic run offense because 949 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: he wants to hang out in the mid range. He 950 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be a just roll to the rim 951 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: and do a Derek Lively or that type of thing. 952 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: So we'll see how he works out there. But we 953 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: will see on Wednesday at five pm. That's when Deandreton 954 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: becomes available to sign. Sure seems like he'll be a 955 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: Laker emergency podcast. Of course not. We won't be doing 956 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: an emergency for Deandraten the number one pick a mere 957 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: seven years ago. We'll see what he can do. If 958 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: he can, he could just rehab his career in Los Angeles, 959 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: I guess there's a chance. There's a chance. There is 960 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: a chance. Moving on to centers who got paid, Luke 961 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: Cornett got paid four years and forty one million dollars. 962 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot for lou Cornett obviously gonna be 963 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: the backup. What's your take for Luke Cornett going to 964 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: the Spurs? I like it, you know. 965 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be a backup big for the Spurs. 966 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: So ten million dollars a year, that's pretty fair, as 967 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 2: we're seeing with these other deals around the league. Can 968 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 2: he play alongside Victor wembin Yama a little bit? 969 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: Probably? 970 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: Double big lineups are becoming more and more common. Wenby 971 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 2: likes to shoot from outside, so the role is still 972 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 2: there for Cornett. He has abandoned the three point shot 973 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 2: since leaving Chicago when Jim Boylan was trying to turn him. 974 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: Into Robert Or. 975 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 2: But it does feel like a This is a bit 976 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 2: of an overpay, but I think a valid overpay for 977 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: the Spurs. Cornett can play. He seems like a fun 978 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 2: guy to have around, like a good locker room guy 979 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 2: as well. He's not gonna threaten Wemby minutes. Wise, perhaps 980 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: they can share the court a little bit together. So 981 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 2: you know, they've wanted another big since doing the Zach 982 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 2: Collins trade at the deadline last year, and I think 983 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 2: Cornet is a better player than Collins. I don't necessarily 984 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 2: know that I'm gonna want to pay in ten million 985 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 2: dollars a year when he's thirty four years old. But 986 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: the Spurs have money, Their books are pretty clean. They 987 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: don't have big contracts on their ledger right now outside 988 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 2: of Deer and Fox, and I guess Vassell got paid 989 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 2: as well, maybe Calvin Johnson, but I don't know if 990 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 2: he's a long termer there. So if Spurs can afford 991 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,959 Speaker 2: it right now, at the very. 992 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: Least, watching Luke Cornett in the playoffs with the Celtics 993 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: and then seeing this contract, you'd think, oh, it's a 994 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: perfect match. I mean, he played well in the playoffs. 995 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: He was bouncing around defense lee, But it is that 996 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: old question can the guy stay healthy. He's turning thirty 997 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. Happy early birthday to Luke Cornett. 998 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: But he's going to be thirty four at the end 999 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: of this thing. And he hasn't played a ton in 1000 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: his career. He played eighteen point six minutes this past season, 1001 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: the highest of his NBA career. So it is a 1002 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: question of whether or not he'll be out there. But 1003 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: he's a very, very skilled player, and you look at 1004 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: the stats when he's out there, he is he's super 1005 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: efficient and if he can bounce around defensively, yeah, and 1006 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: he makes sense whether or not he's playing with Webby 1007 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: or not, he can just be their backup center and 1008 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: that's it. I guess he's the Zach Collins replacement there, 1009 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: and Luke Cornett has show him that he's a better 1010 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: player than Zach Collins when he's out there. Four years 1011 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: forty one sounds kind of high, but in today's NBA 1012 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: got to have a backup center yeah, and a good 1013 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: one it. Yeah, and you also need to have a 1014 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: starting point guard, and that's what the Dallas Maverick scott 1015 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:05,240 Speaker 1: from D'Angelo Russell signing there two years. Thirteen million dollars 1016 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,439 Speaker 1: sounds like nothing for D'Angelo Russell six and a half 1017 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: per year. They just needed somebody with Kyrie Irving out 1018 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: and they got it. 1019 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. The price is right for D'Angelo Russell here. 1020 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 2: They're paying him basically six million dollars with a player 1021 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 2: option next season, so if he has a good year, 1022 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 2: he can go into free agency next season, which is 1023 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 2: probably beneficial to the Mavericks as well. You would like 1024 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 2: to have D'Angelo Russell playing during a contract year, so 1025 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 2: I think that's kind of smart. His best run offensively 1026 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 2: was playing alongside Anthony Davis with the Lakers. Now Lebron 1027 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 2: James is also on the court there, so that definitely helps. 1028 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 2: But at the very least there's some familiarity between AD 1029 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 2: and D'Angelo Russell. You would also, if you're a Mavericks fan, 1030 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: point to Russell and eighty being a part of a 1031 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 2: decent defense in twenty three to twenty four. They were 1032 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: like middle of the pack Obviously, the Mavericks have their 1033 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: sights higher than middle of the pack, but maybe the 1034 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 2: rest of the defensive talent around the Mavericks can mitigate 1035 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 2: Russell's weaknesses in that area. They need him to chuck threes. 1036 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 2: The Mavericks are a low three point shooting team after 1037 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 2: the Lukadancich trade. Kyrie Irving is going to be out 1038 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 2: for the majority of the season. They're bringing in a 1039 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: rookie and Cooper Flag. They're bringing in Anthony Davis for 1040 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 2: a full season. This is a team that needs some 1041 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 2: perimeter creation. So chuck threes if you're D'Angelo Russell, and 1042 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 2: don't kill us until Kyrie Irving comes back, at which 1043 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 2: point Kyrie moves into the starting lineup and Russell becomes 1044 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 2: a decent guy off the bench, which is probably where 1045 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 2: he's best suited. 1046 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 1: At this point in his career. 1047 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 2: At only six million dollars, like the Mavericks didn't have 1048 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 2: a ton of options, I probably would have went for 1049 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 2: Chris Paul would be the guy that I would have preferred. 1050 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't want to be a Maverick, though, so 1051 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell is a fine save. 1052 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: After the Kyrie Irving injury, I think, and he's an 1053 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 1: improvement on what they had besides Kyrie Irving last year 1054 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: when they were healthy, they had Dante Axim really as 1055 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 1: their other guard who may not be back this season. 1056 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: So it is an improvement. Nico Harrison making magic happen, 1057 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: the favors the bold tasks. Yeah, they're they're bolding it 1058 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: up and hopefully Kyrie Irving comes back at some point 1059 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: in the regular season. He's going to be out for 1060 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: the calendar year of twenty twenty five. It feels like 1061 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 1: he's going to be back early twenty twenty six. So 1062 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: a couple months of D'Angel Russell as your starting guard 1063 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: who was starting last year with the Los Angeles Lakers. Yeah, 1064 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: it's it's it's totally decent. I got the Chris Paul thing. 1065 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: But Dangel Russell can ball and can score obviously, So 1066 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: if he goes to your bench afterwards after Kyrie's back, 1067 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 1: it's all good. Yep, six and a half sounds cheap. 1068 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: That's very cheap. So I mean Russell, Yeah, he'll get 1069 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: paid again, whether or not he wants to do it 1070 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: next season because he has a player option for that 1071 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: second year or wait for two more years. It's all 1072 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: up to him. I guess he may be a little upset. 1073 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: All I got was six and a half. I mean, 1074 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: I guess there just weren't many many suitors saying, hey, 1075 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: we'll pay you fifteen million, or pay more, or he 1076 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: wants to win in Dallas, go back with I say 1077 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: win because I figure that they'll be decent, or go 1078 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: back with Anthony Davis. I don't know what the idea 1079 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: there is for Diegel Russell, but I guess he didn't 1080 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: have suitors. 1081 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't have suitors. The Nets were the team 1082 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 2: with the most cap space his previous team. Now at 1083 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: this point they drafted a million point guards, so obviously 1084 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: they don't want Russell as their development. 1085 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: Piece going forward. 1086 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 2: I guess he could have hopped on with the Clippers 1087 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 2: in the same sort of a deal, perhaps something cheap, 1088 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 2: but probably the most opportunity for him is in Dallas 1089 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 2: and the best chance to kind of rehab his value 1090 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 2: and his image around the league. You play with this team, 1091 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 2: they make you look serviceable on defense, you help lead 1092 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 2: Dallas to. 1093 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they're dreaming at the sixth seed right now. 1094 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 2: I think would be a goal for Dallas, and if 1095 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 2: that plays out, they get Kyrie Irving back, maybe they 1096 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 2: get a favorable matchup in the first round. Put a 1097 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,720 Speaker 2: scare into a team who knows if everything clicks right. 1098 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell could perhaps get a bump on this salary 1099 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 2: next season if he decides to decline. 1100 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: His player option. So I think. 1101 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 2: Dallas and D'Angelo Russell probably making the most of a 1102 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 2: bad situation. 1103 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the Clippers there. That's somebody that's going 1104 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,959 Speaker 1: to have to get a guard. And whether it's Chris 1105 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: Paul or Malcolm Brogen or something like that, I'm sure 1106 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: we'll see that happen over the next couple of days. 1107 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday to talk about every single 1108 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: teeny tiny deal. We got a decent deal here for 1109 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: Ty Jerome. We should get to Ted Jerome, who was 1110 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: balling in the playoffs, was dropping shots in for the 1111 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers. He's balling for you know he wasn't balling 1112 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Well, he was scoring. He had some 1113 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: big scoring nights, some big scoring nights. 1114 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 2: He was a great regular season player last year. I 1115 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 2: actually the playoffs left the poor taste in my mouth. 1116 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: He had bad moments, Yeah, yeah, had bad moments. 1117 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: He was pretty bad in the second. He was a 1118 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 2: target defensively, but that's the thing. He's making less than 1119 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 2: ten million dollars, so it's hard to get upset about anything. 1120 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 2: The Grizzlies need guard depth. Ja Morant misses huge chunks 1121 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 2: of time every season. Scottie Pippen Junior, I think is 1122 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 2: a good player, but it's nice to have options. They're 1123 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,240 Speaker 2: saying goodbye to Cole Anthony. I do think ty Jerome 1124 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 2: can probably play alongside Ja Morant and some smaller lineups 1125 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 2: for the Grizzlies. But good stuff, you know, like I said, 1126 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 2: three years, twenty four million dollars, you're living with that everywhere. 1127 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: He was making some headlines in the playoffs when he 1128 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 1: was dropping. When he dropped twenty one against the Pacers 1129 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: in Game one, he was helping out. Then they show 1130 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: that he just doesn't want to play defense. I mean 1131 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: they were really exploiting him through the rest of that 1132 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 1: playoff series. He had a twenty eight point game in 1133 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 1: round number one when they destroyed the Heat, and so 1134 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: he was making headlines. I had people texting me yesterday 1135 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: saying ty Jerome at nine million a season, that's nothing. 1136 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: Because he was making making those headlines now coming off 1137 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: the bench for the Memphis Grizzlies. He's going to score, 1138 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: but he can be exploded defensively. And that's why the 1139 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: Cavs were saying, okay, saying we'll go with Lonzo Ball 1140 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 1: that they went and acquired, because he's going to be 1141 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 1: solid defensively and he's going to keep moving that basketball. 1142 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: And Ti Jerome, you know, he wants to put it 1143 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: upon himself and score, So it seems like it's a 1144 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 1: cheap deal for a guy who can can drop whatever 1145 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: you need him to drop. He can score, but he 1146 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: could score last year. 1147 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he's got he's had one good year in 1148 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 2: the NBA and he's getting paid off of it, so 1149 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 2: good for him. But I think he scored twenty one 1150 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: in Game one against that Pacer series in the nineteen 1151 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 2: the rest of the series. 1152 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So I like Ty Jerome. 1153 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 2: He can't be good again next year, but you got 1154 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 2: to have two good years to prove to me that 1155 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 2: you're actually going to be a reliable player. 1156 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: Well, we shall see what he does with the Memphis Grizzlies. 1157 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: Moving on to a guy who started the season with 1158 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavaliers ended up being traded here to Atlanta. 1159 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: Now he's going to Detroit Karris Lavert. Two years, twenty 1160 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 1: nine million dollars for Karris Lavert. What's your take on that. 1161 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 2: This is too much for Kars Labert. This is the 1162 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 2: first one that I'm kind of like, Oh, I don't 1163 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 2: know if I would have done that. He's their Shrewder replacement. 1164 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 2: Shrewder is pretty solid for the Pistons after coming over 1165 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 2: midway through the season, so I think decent insurance. They're like, 1166 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 2: Karris Lavert is kind of like the perfect replacement level 1167 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 2: bench guy. He can handle the ball. He's not a 1168 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 2: great defensive player. Some games he'll have twenty points off 1169 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 2: the bench. Some games will have four points off the bench. 1170 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 2: If I'm the Pistons, I would certainly rather have Malik 1171 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 2: Beasley on a deal like this, But that guy's underneath 1172 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 2: federal investigation right now, so I think this was kind 1173 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 2: of a scramble for the Pistons to get Karris Lavert. 1174 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 2: You know, Jade and Ivy's going to be coming back. 1175 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 2: That guy's going to be a big second unit ball handler, 1176 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 2: because Kid Cunningham is the number one guy you want 1177 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,760 Speaker 2: shooting around Caid Cunningham which is why Beasley is definitely 1178 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:04,959 Speaker 2: preferable for the Pistons. Circumstances have changed, however, so nice 1179 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 2: of Karris Lavert or nice for Karris Lavert to get 1180 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 2: paid here. Not my favorite move for Detroit, but they 1181 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 2: needed to make a move, and with the Beasley situation 1182 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 2: in Flux, I guess this is the best they can do. 1183 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Beasley situation has changed things there and they 1184 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: let go Dennis Shuder, who was finishing games with Kate 1185 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: Cunningham beside him and was playing really, really well. I 1186 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: think Krsilvert can replace that. I think he's good enough 1187 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: to do that. I know he didn't. He didn't get 1188 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: a lot of storylines or didn't do a lot with 1189 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks, but I think he's a good, solid 1190 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: player who can create for others. And you look at 1191 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham and you think we just want three point 1192 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: shooters around him, and I suppose that that's true. You 1193 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: want Malik Beasley out there, and if he's not get 1194 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 1: another shooter. Why would you get Carrislvert If he's not 1195 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: that type of guy. He's more of a I'm going 1196 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: to create for myself. But I think he he did 1197 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: show even when he started the season under Kenny Atkins's 1198 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: offense with Cleveland. He's a good playmaker. I think he's 1199 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: developed that in his NBA career. So I think this 1200 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: is a fine, fine contract. And yes, it was probably 1201 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,439 Speaker 1: an emergency. We need somebody other than the guy who's 1202 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: being federally investigated. Very that is an odd scenario. That 1203 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: was supposed to be replaced by a contract from the 1204 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: Detroit bisiness. He was supposed to get a contract, and 1205 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: this is all happening. So here we are July first, 1206 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: and he has not signed, So we will keep an 1207 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: eye on that. Who would you. 1208 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 2: Rather have Karris Lavert at fourteen million dollars or Jordan 1209 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 2: Clarkson at veteran minimum. 1210 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: Clarkson, Nah, well, fourteen mil. I guess that's yeah, a 1211 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: lot of money. That's what they paid him. I know 1212 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: they did. They did. I mean, he's he's still a 1213 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: good play he's still he can still He's not going 1214 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: to be a ball stopper, he's not. He was decent 1215 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: at creating for others. Jordan Clarkson can't do that, sure, 1216 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, I know, if you're comparing a veteran welver, 1217 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: it's not a ball mover. 1218 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 2: He can be No, no, he's not a ball mover. 1219 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 2: He can create off the dribble ye others, but he's 1220 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 2: not a ball mover. This is a weird signing to me. 1221 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't think that the Pistons needed this type of player. 1222 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to figure out their deal for Tim 1223 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 2: Hardaway Junior, who now has to become Malik Beasley. 1224 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: We'll figure out. 1225 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with Beasley, but he was vital 1226 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 2: to their team. 1227 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 1228 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 2: This is just unusual, and I think you can you 1229 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: can find a player like Lavert anytime. There are so 1230 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 2: many of these guys. Oh and Sexton just got traded 1231 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 2: to the Hornets, same exact kind of guy, Jordan Clarkson 1232 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 2: on a way cheaper deal for the Knicks fourteen and 1233 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 2: a half million. 1234 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: It's it's weird for Karroslivert. 1235 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 2: The guy hasn't The guy hasn't made a difference for 1236 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 2: any team. 1237 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's fine. I think he was good with 1238 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: the Kavs off their bench. I think he's they said 1239 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 1: we need an upgrade. Yeah, they went to a different, 1240 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: totally different position to say DeAndre Hunter, we need height, 1241 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: and that was that was the move that they got. 1242 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,959 Speaker 1: But I will say Caro Slovert can replace what Dennis 1243 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Schruter did. I mean they need another ball handler to 1244 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: make things happen. Denis Sruter again was a guy that 1245 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 1: they desperately needed in Detroit and again he was finishing games. 1246 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: So we'll see what he can do there with the 1247 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Detroit Pissons. Do you want to bounce around? Yeahs bounce buddy, 1248 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Clarkson, As you said, let's just start. We'll just 1249 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: get that one out of the way. Minimum deal with 1250 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: the New York Knicks to come off the bench. Nothing 1251 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: wrong with that for a guy who can score. Yep. 1252 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 2: They were playing a campaign as their backup point guard 1253 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 2: in the biggest moments against the Indiana Pacers. 1254 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 1: So I think this is good. 1255 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, not that Clarkson has really proven anything recently. Like 1256 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 2: you think, back man, this guy was a recent sixth 1257 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Man of the Year winner. That was five years ago 1258 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 2: at this point that he was. But who knows. He's 1259 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 2: a decent option on a veteran minimum. 1260 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a couple good year a couple of 1261 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 1: years ago with the Jazz, but last year was incredibly 1262 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: bad and he was injured. We'll see if he can 1263 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: add anything at that cheap. You give it a shot. 1264 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Let's go to Tias Jones joining the Orlando Magic one year, 1265 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: seven million dollars to be their backup point guard. What 1266 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: do you think of that? Tias Jones as a backup? 1267 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 2: I love it. Tias Jones is a starter, not good, 1268 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 2: so him as a backup I think is good. Like 1269 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 2: I said on yesterday's show, I would like to see 1270 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,919 Speaker 2: Jason Richards or Jace Richardson sorry get the opportunity as 1271 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 2: the backup point guard. But Tias Jones is really solid 1272 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,479 Speaker 2: and steady, So I think a seven million dollar deal 1273 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 2: that's good. 1274 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 1: He was on a veteran minimum with. 1275 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 2: The Suns the last season, so a pay bump for him. 1276 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 2: And at the very least, he's a professional guy who's 1277 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 2: gonna make wide open three pointers. That guy is a 1278 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 2: ball mover, Tias Jones. He loves to move the ball. 1279 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 2: He doesn't love to go inside. So I think if 1280 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 2: things worked out perfectly for the Magic, Tias Jones would 1281 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 2: be their third point guard behind Suggs as the starter, 1282 01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 2: and then either Anthony Black or Jace Richards And would 1283 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 2: be the backup. 1284 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: But more than likely. 1285 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 2: It's going to be Tias Jones with Anthony Black kind 1286 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 2: of like in the one two. And they're waiting for 1287 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 2: Jace Richardson, who's a shorty and a young guy to 1288 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 2: develop before he really has a. 1289 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: Big role, which is a bummer if you think he's 1290 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: the stealer of the draft like I do. 1291 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 2: But you know, the Magic want to win now. They 1292 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 2: don't want to win in three seasons. 1293 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 1: They do, and that's why they go and get this 1294 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: veteran type of guy who has some history playing with 1295 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Desmond Bain in Memphis and if you look some of 1296 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 1: those lineups and when John Morant was out or when 1297 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: Ty Jones was just playing with Desmond Bain, some really 1298 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 1: good numbers where he was just, yeah, exactly what you said, 1299 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: moving the ball. He's a traditional type of point guard 1300 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 1: and they want to be good and he'll be outside 1301 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: shooting the three ball and letting your ban Carrows, your 1302 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: franz Is work in the mid range to give them 1303 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: a more space than what they had last year. Yeah, 1304 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: he's a really good three point shooter. So that seems 1305 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: like a smart move. Get to a quick signing here. 1306 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, a new deal alert from Shaan's free agent center 1307 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Gershan Yabusele has agreed to a two year, twelve million 1308 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 2: dollar contract with the Knicks, has a player option for 1309 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 2: season two. That's a good deal for the next six 1310 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 2: million dollars for Yabu, who is pretty solid on the 1311 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 2: sixers last year, but after they drafted Joe and I Broom, 1312 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 2: the writing was kind of on the wall for Yabu 1313 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 2: sale The Knicks are a team, like we're talking about, 1314 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 2: that needed depth, and at the very least, I think 1315 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 2: Yabu Sele is a good depth piece. He can probably 1316 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 2: play along Karl Anthony Towns in a pinch if they 1317 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 2: need to start him for some reason. But I think 1318 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 2: a different player definitely than Precious at you but I 1319 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 2: think at least a minor upgrade. 1320 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Probably. Yeah, in desperate situations where Mitch Robinson is hurt, 1321 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Gershonabaselli can fill in. I mean you mentioned you said 1322 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 1: the position backup center or you said signed center. I 1323 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 1: should say I. 1324 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 2: Don't think of him as a center, but I guess 1325 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 2: he will. 1326 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Be in New York. It sure feels like at times, 1327 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: but yes, he'll replace Precious that Chew. He had a 1328 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: great year with the seventy six ers out of that 1329 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,840 Speaker 1: minimum now getting a huge pay raise to six mil 1330 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: per season. It's good for him. 1331 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 2: They need depth, There's no doubt the New York Knicks 1332 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 2: need to be bigger, and Girshan isn't your backup center 1333 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 2: type of size guy. 1334 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: He's six' eight on a good. DAY i think you 1335 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 1: know he could be even a little bit. Smaller but 1336 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 1: you need somebody to be able to play with kat 1337 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: AND i think he could. Help he was really good, 1338 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: defensively so he'll help yep and. 1339 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 2: AS jg is mentioning here in the, stream, team this 1340 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 2: will hardcap The knicks at the second. Apron so basically 1341 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 2: they've got their team going, forward Adding Jordan clarkson And 1342 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Gershan Yabu. 1343 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 1: Salle to a team a good season made it to 1344 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: the conference. 1345 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 2: Finals all they need now as a coach to figure 1346 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 2: out when these guys are. 1347 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: Playing, yeah, again you never know who can play in 1348 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: terms of their big SO i think this guy seems 1349 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 1: like he's entirely. Healthy at least he'll play again If 1350 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: Mitchell robinson is, hurt and he can shoot the three, 1351 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: balls so he'll be totally different than a precious that 1352 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 1: you he'll step out and shoot that thing to Give 1353 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 1: kat and others some space and something That Mitchell rubinson can't. 1354 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: Do so a different type of offense for whoever their 1355 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 1: head coaches to scheme a little, bit because we don't 1356 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 1: know who's going to coach that. 1357 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 2: Team Maybe Mike brown could Be Mike Dawn. Staley we shall, see, 1358 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 2: yes we shall all. 1359 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: Right jumping around still here in terms of the small 1360 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,440 Speaker 1: deals that were, Made Dennis shruder is going to The Sacramento. 1361 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 1: KINGS i was surprising to see that. Happening The kings 1362 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: have no. 1363 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 2: Plan they're just, like we see a guy that we, 1364 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 2: know and we're going to bring him. In it happened 1365 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,439 Speaker 2: With Zach, lavine it happened With DeMar De. Rosen it's 1366 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 2: now happening With Dennis. Shruder which there was some talk 1367 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 2: that maybe it would Be Malik monk would be going 1368 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 2: to The pistons in the sign and. TRADE i don't 1369 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 2: know if that's still going to. HAPPEN i guess this 1370 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 2: is still a couple of days from being made. Official 1371 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 2: all these deals are so things can. Change but, yeah 1372 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 2: The king said they needed a point, guard And Dennis 1373 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 2: shruder is literally a point. Guard but they don't need. 1374 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 2: Him they don't need another guy who's a score first 1375 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 2: guy on this. 1376 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Team, yeah this is a, yeah Puzzling, yeah team number 1377 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 1: ten For Dennis ruder, again who did really good things 1378 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: with The detroit. Business he helped out last, year SO 1379 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 1: i suppose she can help out with The Sacramento. Kings 1380 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 1: he's a capable. Guy but The, yeah, overall you want 1381 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: to be, Excited, yeah nothing to be excited. About and 1382 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 1: are these other contracts all that to be excited. About 1383 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: i'm segueing because we just saw a big deal. Happen 1384 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 1: and even though we were going to talk About Luca 1385 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 1: garza to The celtics And Kevin Porter junior And tory 1386 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 1: And prince And Gary trent going back To milwaukee And 1387 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Trade jones to The bulls And Kevon looney to The, 1388 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: pelicans we got to talk about The bucks Getting Miles. Turner. Hello, 1389 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: yeah and he's ain't going. Nowhere he's Got Miles turner 1390 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 1: playing beside. Him what a. Surprise four years and one 1391 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 1: hundred and seven million dollars For Miles turner to The Milwaukee. 1392 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: Bucks pacers losing their longest term player In Miles turner 1393 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: just went to the finals and he is. Gone he 1394 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 1: is going to play Beside. Yannistenekupo what upgrade for? Him beside? 1395 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 1: Him bucks ain't going to be. BAD i guess The 1396 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Atlanta hawks got to hope The pelicans are going to 1397 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: be super. BAD i assume That yannis And Miles turner 1398 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 1: will have a winning record. Together that is a surprise 1399 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: hundred and seven million bucks over four. Years one of 1400 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: those years is a player option at the end and 1401 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 1: a full fifteen percent trade, kicker according to our man Sham. 1402 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: Sharunya so he doesn't want to go. Anywhere he wants 1403 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 1: to be In, milwaukee wants to be up in The 1404 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 1: midwestern sort of part of THE. Us walks to The, 1405 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 1: midwest of, Course, yeah, YEAH i. Guess. So you know 1406 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: it feels more. East we're going east, anyways doesn't that 1407 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,440 Speaker 1: a guy not from The. Midwest, yeah, WELL i like 1408 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: looking at a map AND i like seeing The. West 1409 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: WHEN i talk about The, WEST i wanted to be 1410 01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 1: in the. West. 1411 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 2: Anyway this is farther west Than. Indiana oh, YEAH i, guess, y, 1412 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,959 Speaker 2: YEAH i guess. Right, anyways and. 1413 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: It's right in the. 1414 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 2: MIDDLE i can't believe. IT i can't Believe Miles turner 1415 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 2: is actually not going to be on The. Pacers, yeah 1416 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 2: the guy's played on The pacers Since Paul george was. 1417 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 2: There he was in trade rumors every season there was 1418 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 2: a trade deadline Where Miles turner was, like, yeah IF 1419 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 2: i were The, LAKERS i would trade For Miles, turner 1420 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 2: which was one of the craziest. 1421 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Things but, now. 1422 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,599 Speaker 2: Since Tyre's halliburton got injured In game seven of THE Nba, 1423 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,560 Speaker 2: Finals Miles turner is finally. LEAVING i think If halliburton 1424 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 2: finishes that, game who knows which way it. Goes let's, say, 1425 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 2: okay see still wins the championship In game, seven But 1426 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 2: halliburton is healthy going into the, SEASON i Think Miles 1427 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 2: turner is still A. Pacer today would be signing a 1428 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 2: deal for The pacers to go into the. Tax they're 1429 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:48,000 Speaker 2: not a team that, historically historically likes to pay the. 1430 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,720 Speaker 2: Tax so seeing That halliburton is going to miss the 1431 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,600 Speaker 2: majority of next, season likely all of next, season the 1432 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 2: writing was on. 1433 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:55,640 Speaker 1: The wall for The. 1434 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 2: Pacers are they actually going to pony up enough money 1435 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 2: to keep their longest tenured guy In Myles? Turner, obviously 1436 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 2: the answer is, No they're. 1437 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 1: Cheaping out on keeping. 1438 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 2: Him and they're gonna need to replace, him not necessarily 1439 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 2: for next season because it's gonna be a down year For, 1440 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,799 Speaker 2: indiana but for the twenty sixth, season we'll. 1441 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 1: See where they go. There this is great for The. 1442 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 2: Bucks they're basically getting the closest thing to Brook lopez 1443 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 2: from a defense and three point shooting, standpoint and he's 1444 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 2: what almost ten years younger than Brook lopez at this, 1445 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 2: Point he's so much more, athletic which is something The 1446 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 2: bucks have been lacking the past couple of. SEASONS i 1447 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 2: think Between turner And, giannis you've got a front court 1448 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 2: that both of them can defend the rim and switch 1449 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 2: out onto the. Perimeter so this is a great save 1450 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 2: for The bucks to be able to bring In Miles. 1451 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 2: Turner still question marks about what they're gonna do with their. 1452 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 2: Guards they did find a way to bring back basically 1453 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 2: everybody From Ryan, Rollins Kevin, Porter Junior, tory And. 1454 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,600 Speaker 1: Prince those guys are coming, Back SO i think this is. 1455 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,720 Speaker 2: Great this is an upgrade for The bucks to be 1456 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,759 Speaker 2: able to turn Brook lopez Into Miles. 1457 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,960 Speaker 1: Turner turner is a better player at this point in his. 1458 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 2: Career he's much, younger and, yeah you're paying him for four, 1459 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 2: years which means they want to keep on us around 1460 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 2: for as long as they possibly. 1461 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 1: Can and it just was. 1462 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 2: Not feasible to me for The bucks to go into 1463 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 2: next season Missing, lillard Missing lopez and having no sort of. 1464 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Replacement so this is a really good scramble move for The, 1465 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 2: bucks AND i just them really shocked That Miles turner 1466 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 2: is finally not going to be on The. Pacers this 1467 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 2: guy's been in rumors all the, time tests and this 1468 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 2: one came out of. 1469 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,799 Speaker 1: Nowhere. Ye, yes it is surprising That Miles turner's finally 1470 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,879 Speaker 1: leaving BECAUSE i felt, Like, okay he ain't going. Anywhere 1471 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 1: they just went to the. Finals this guy Is. Indiana 1472 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 1: he's been there for ten, seasons and so you think 1473 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 1: as soon as you say that he's, old but he's. 1474 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: Not he came into THE nba just one year in 1475 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: college out Of, texas so he was pretty. Young. Then 1476 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: he's only twenty nine, now so four years if this 1477 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,559 Speaker 1: ends up, happening he'll be. There and it feels like 1478 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: he's been super durable so far in HIS nba, career 1479 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: so it's not a big. Deal he, Plays, yeah, yeah 1480 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,639 Speaker 1: he does, play and kudos to The Milwaukee bucks front 1481 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: office didn't seem like they were going to do. Anything 1482 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,679 Speaker 1: they just brought Back Torrian, prince a guy who couldn't 1483 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 1: start for, them on another two year. Deal Gary, trent 1484 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 1: who obviously got better as the season went, on brought him. 1485 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Back but it felt like the same team is coming 1486 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,599 Speaker 1: back Minus Brook, lopez and they go and Get Miles, 1487 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 1: turner who was arguably the biggest name who was available out. There, 1488 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,719 Speaker 1: yeah in terms of free agents to play Beside Dan Stanton, 1489 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Kopos so that dude must be. Pumped, now they still 1490 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 1: lack a ball, scorer a ball handler and score outside 1491 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 1: on the. PERIMETER i mentioned the guys who they. Have 1492 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: It's Gary trent And Ken Porter. Junior once, again they Have. 1493 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Kuzma we're gonna Miss i'm gonna just skip Over Kyle 1494 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 1: kuzma because he didn't show that he was a great 1495 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 1: ball handler In. Milwaukee he didn't show that he was 1496 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 1: a great scorer In. Milwaukee but arguably going to, season 1497 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: he was going to be their second best player Because 1498 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,719 Speaker 1: Damian lillard was. Out now they've Got Miles turner, yep 1499 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 1: which is, yes definitely an. Upgrade it just felt like 1500 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 1: he was going to be An indiana pacer for the 1501 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: rest of his, career but somebody was willing to pay him, 1502 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,560 Speaker 1: more and it Was John horst. Again four years On 1503 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,639 Speaker 1: hunter seven Mil so at almost twenty seven per, year 1504 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 1: it isn't a crazy amount For Miles turner when you're 1505 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: looking at starting. Centers he's shown that he is a, 1506 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: very very capable defensive, player as you, said Because brooke 1507 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,400 Speaker 1: was just lacking that ability to get out to the 1508 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 1: three point lining guard that. 1509 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 2: Far But Miles turner can do. That he's that. Good, 1510 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 2: yeah are The bucks going to be a lot better 1511 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 2: just because they Got Miles? TURNER i don't really think. 1512 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 2: So BUT i think they would have been a lot 1513 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 2: worse if they were just saying goodbye to two starters 1514 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 2: with no sort of replacement at. All so they replaced 1515 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,560 Speaker 2: at least one of those. Positions if you're going With 1516 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 2: Kevin Porter junior as your starting point guard for the whole, 1517 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,679 Speaker 2: SEASON i think that's going to be. Tough but maybe 1518 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 2: there's still a deal yet to be done For. Milwaukee 1519 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 2: The lillard For beal is still out. There it could still. 1520 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 2: HAPPEN i don't know if it's, smart but it could, 1521 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 2: happen and at Least Bradley beal will be playing this, 1522 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 2: Season SO i think a good thing For milwaukee and 1523 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,680 Speaker 2: a sad end To miles turner tenure In. Indiana he 1524 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 2: wanted to be A, pacer he said so afterwards he 1525 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 2: had a pretty poor final if we're being completely, honest 1526 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 2: and he was the longest tenured guy. There and LIKE i, 1527 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,799 Speaker 2: SAID i think If halliburton makes it through the series, 1528 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 2: healthy they're ready to go With Miles turner probably there 1529 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 2: as the starting center. 1530 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 1: Again having to pay the. 1531 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,040 Speaker 2: Tax but the reality is That halliburton isn't going to be, 1532 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 2: There The pacers aren't going to be quite as, good 1533 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,720 Speaker 2: and their ownership is deciding to take a gap, year 1534 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 2: save some money and see What Pascal skiakam can bring. 1535 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:45,840 Speaker 1: Him so if. 1536 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 2: You've been Holding Tony bradley's, stock this is big. 1537 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 1: Time, Yeah and this is big. Time and when they 1538 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: went and Gave Isaiah jackson also that restricted free agency 1539 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: ability by giving him that, contract that sure feels like 1540 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,040 Speaker 1: they're going to bring Back Isaiah jackson as a big 1541 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,640 Speaker 1: center for. Them it is weird to See Miles turner go, 1542 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,519 Speaker 1: out but, yeah you're, right it looks like a gap 1543 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: year while The Milwaukee. 1544 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 2: Baby made a starting. Center they made an offer To 1545 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,800 Speaker 2: ayton right like a long time. Ago they made an 1546 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,640 Speaker 2: offer To, ayton which The suns then, Matched SO i 1547 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 2: wonder if they get back in the mix for, him 1548 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 2: though that probably puts them into the tax which is 1549 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 2: the Reason Miles turner is leaving in the first. Place 1550 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,720 Speaker 2: but they need a real starting. Center Isaiah jackson coming 1551 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,920 Speaker 2: off In achilles tear is not the, guy, yeah nor 1552 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 2: Is Thomas, bryant nor Is Tony, Bradley SO i. WONDER 1553 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,759 Speaker 2: i wonder he was even out. There Ray smith's come. 1554 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 1: Back, Baby, YEAH i wonder if they Offered DeAndre ayton 1555 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 1: a low, number it doesn't count necessarily against the taxes 1556 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 1: all that much because, yeah maybe they outbid The lakers or, 1557 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 1: whoever but maybe it doesn't cost that. Much so, yeah 1558 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,919 Speaker 1: we could See deandreton. There i'm excited about The Milwaukee, 1559 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 1: Bucks and as we've, said maybe it doesn't raise their 1560 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: ceiling incredibly, high but it definitely raises their floor to 1561 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,440 Speaker 1: make them a more solid. Team they could be extremely 1562 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: bad if they didn't Have Miles turner out, there and 1563 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 1: you're just throwing out what they threw out against The 1564 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 1: Indiana pacers in round number. One As Kevin Porter, juniors 1565 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 1: you're starting. Guard this makes them so much, better but 1566 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: they still need to go get some. 1567 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 2: Guards more news From shams regarding this. Trade The Milwaukee 1568 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,640 Speaker 2: bucks are Waving Damian lillard and stretching the remaining one 1569 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,160 Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen million dollars that is left on his 1570 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 2: contract in order to Acquire Miles. Turner So Damian lillard 1571 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 2: waved and stretched one hundred and thirteen million dollars on 1572 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 2: The bucks payroll divided over the next five. Seasons that's. 1573 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 2: Right so that's what a little less than twenty three 1574 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 2: million dollars still got their draft. 1575 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:45,800 Speaker 1: Moves that's. 1576 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,040 Speaker 2: WOW i Guess Damian lillard is a free. 1577 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Agent, yeah he. 1578 01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 2: Can't he's not going to play this, season but he's 1579 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 2: a free agent and he's gonna still be making one 1580 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen million, dollars so a team could maybe 1581 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 2: get him at a discount yeah next? 1582 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Year. Right, wow good for The Milwaukee bucks and Saying 1583 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: Damian lillard is not working for us. Anymore we gave 1584 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 1: up a lot for, Him we gave back so much for, 1585 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 1: him but that ain't gonna pay. Off. Anymore it's a 1586 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 1: sun cost. Thing he did not look like himself a 1587 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,720 Speaker 1: lot this, season and obviously the continued calf injuries add 1588 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,640 Speaker 1: up here and he just wasn't the Same dame, Unfortunately 1589 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 1: so good for The bucks to say financially it's time 1590 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: to give him. Up and that is a clear sign 1591 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 1: to again set A goopo we're gonna do everything we 1592 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 1: can to keep you, happy to say we're gonna wave 1593 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 1: and stretch this. Contract so five years of one hundred 1594 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 1: and THIRTEEN milf For dame instead of two years and 1595 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:47,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen mil so we can do as 1596 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,600 Speaker 1: much as we can right, here right now financially to 1597 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:56,519 Speaker 1: keep you. Happy that's a, smart smart. Move and again 1598 01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 1: Watching dame and watching him play out, there he just 1599 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:01,760 Speaker 1: wasn't the same. 1600 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 2: Guy and he's got a torn. Achilles oh, yeah, yeah, 1601 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 2: yeah that's the main. Thing, Yeah like could he could 1602 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 2: he recover from? IT i, Suppose but because these calf. 1603 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:18,840 Speaker 2: Injuries the achilles was a single, incident but the calf 1604 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,639 Speaker 2: injury has been adding up for him for several. Years 1605 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 2: he just hasn't looked quite the. 1606 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 1: SAME i did you, know getting into the cap geekery, 1607 01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 1: HERE i didn't know that the release and, stretch wave 1608 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 1: and STRETCH i should, say counts with these these player 1609 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 1: option deal or part of a, contract BUT i guess it. 1610 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 1: DOES i guess that would make. Sense, yeah so two 1611 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 1: years left turns into double that plus, One so it's 1612 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 1: five years that they will be Paying Damian. Lillard, again 1613 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 1: what's at one hundred and? Thirteen so, yes as you, 1614 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 1: said you, know between twenty two and twenty. 1615 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,559 Speaker 2: Three million dollars to not play this, season WHICH i 1616 01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 2: guess is better than paying him fifty million dollars to 1617 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:00,559 Speaker 2: not play. 1618 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 1: This, yeah, exactly and even if you brought him back 1619 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: with that player option the following, year, AGAIN i don't 1620 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 1: think he's gonna look anything like what he. Did so 1621 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 1: they got to go get a. Guard. WATCH i Thought 1622 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,639 Speaker 1: Kevin Porter junior was going to be gone because watching 1623 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,640 Speaker 1: him start against The Indiana pacers was not. Good now 1624 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't getting guys. Involved he is a guy comes 1625 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 1: off the bench and it's all, Me i'm gonna. Score 1626 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 1: and now he's their guard to go along With Gary Trent, 1627 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,639 Speaker 1: junior that's who they. Got they need to go get. 1628 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:32,759 Speaker 1: Somebody SO i guess. 1629 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 2: This this waven stretch frees out more money to go. 1630 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:41,920 Speaker 1: Get is it gonna be a Bringback Malcolm brogden type of? Thing? Maybe, 1631 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,720 Speaker 1: yeah he was solid for. Them unfortunately he hasn't been 1632 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 1: able to stay on the floor a Ton Chris paul. 1633 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 1: Possibility if they could do. 1634 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,360 Speaker 2: That vetrian Minimum Chris paul for a, year that's a 1635 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 2: decent stop. 1636 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 1: Gap oh, yeah oh, yeah, absolutely even a few more 1637 01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,760 Speaker 1: mill give it To Chris. Paul but, yeah they they're. 1638 01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,439 Speaker 1: Desperate i'm SURE i can't think of any Other. 1639 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,800 Speaker 2: Both jones brothers are. Signed now That tius is going 1640 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,559 Speaker 2: to The Magic, Trade jones going back to The. 1641 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: Bulls, Yeah rollins is coming. Back. Porter i'm with. You 1642 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 1: he's not a you don't want him as your starting point. 1643 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,479 Speaker 1: Guard he has, moments and he had some decent moments 1644 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 1: in the. 1645 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 2: Playoffs but, UH i don't know if this is a 1646 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 2: good move For. 1647 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,519 Speaker 1: Milwaukee. YEAH i think That ganis has got to be super, 1648 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,679 Speaker 1: happy and that's what it's all about, about making That greek. 1649 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:33,599 Speaker 1: Happy he's got to be. Happy, really there's nobody else 1650 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,679 Speaker 1: left unless you're. Signing in terms of point, guards it's 1651 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 1: got to Be Chris, Paul Malcolm. Brogden there's an Old 1652 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 1: Kyle lowry. Available There's Russell westbrook is still available over. Us, 1653 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 1: yeah would love. That. Yeah and Then Spencer. DINWIODIE i 1654 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 1: guess is a possibility to bring. There that's. It, yeah exciting. 1655 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,639 Speaker 1: STUFF i can't believe. 1656 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,840 Speaker 2: It, YEAH i ain't going. Anywhere he's happy for, now. 1657 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 1: Happy because they brought In Miles turner and said goodbye 1658 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,720 Speaker 1: To Damian. Lillard he's. Good they gotta do what they gotta. 1659 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Do at least they're doing. Something, yes they gotta do 1660 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 1: what they gotta. 1661 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 2: Do. 1662 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh and we gotta do what we gotta. Do 1663 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 1: we gotta. 1664 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,559 Speaker 2: Go, well you don't want to talk About Trade jones 1665 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,120 Speaker 2: getting more, year more money per year Than Tigus. 1666 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Jones that's. Crazy, yeah, MAN i do feel. BAD i 1667 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 1: see the other news about The. Bulls, no, no you. 1668 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 1: Didn't there's No Josh giddy deal. 1669 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 2: Yet there are The bulls being smart, here and so 1670 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 2: The nets did the trade For Michael Porter, junior which 1671 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 2: cuts into their cap. Space The nets were the only 1672 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,639 Speaker 2: team that really had cap space they could Offer giddy 1673 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 2: a big. Deal they're obviously out of the game right. 1674 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 2: Now The bulls signed a point guard In Trade, jones 1675 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 2: who was pretty solid For. CHICAGO i don't really think 1676 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,600 Speaker 2: he's a fifty three point shooter like he was for 1677 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,080 Speaker 2: The bulls In Mickey Mouse. March but they have a. 1678 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 2: Guard he's A oh there are no suitors For. Giddy 1679 01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 2: The bulls could actually get a, deal could get a 1680 01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:00,840 Speaker 2: discount if indeed they are negotiating with right. Now LIKE 1681 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 2: i told, YOU i was, worried LIKE i would accept 1682 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,719 Speaker 2: thirty million dollars as a contract per year For. Giddy 1683 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 2: they can get him for, cheaper just because there's nobody 1684 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,800 Speaker 2: else out there that can offer him the kind of. 1685 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 2: Contract he's probably looking for the fact that the deal wasn't. 1686 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,720 Speaker 2: Done this morning WHEN i woke, UP i was, like, interesting, 1687 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,839 Speaker 2: interesting might get a. Discount we shall see thirty million 1688 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:22,639 Speaker 2: be okay with that? 1689 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 1: Contract sounds that's how it, is, man it is how it. 1690 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 1: Is but he is a restricted free, agent and, yeah 1691 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 1: he would only be negotiating with. Him with The. Bulls 1692 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 1: it feels like who else is offering. That it's a good. 1693 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 1: Point Trey jones had some good minutes with The. Bulls 1694 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,160 Speaker 1: he had some good minutes with The spurs this past. 1695 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,280 Speaker 1: Season he looked like he was, Capable so, yeah both being. 1696 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:49,960 Speaker 2: Smart, huh, well, yeah let's wait Until let's wait until 1697 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 2: they make the. Deal, okay maybe they're just like, whatever 1698 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 2: he's In. Australia we'll. Talk we'll talk a little bit 1699 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 2: later when he's back On Central time or something like. 1700 01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,240 Speaker 2: That i'm not willing to give them credit UNTIL i 1701 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 2: see a small deal For. Giddy but a small deal 1702 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,280 Speaker 2: could be, had and he's worth a small, deal he 1703 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 2: ain't worth a giant. 1704 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 1: Deal, yeah we'll see what. Happens That Trey jones. Contract 1705 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,599 Speaker 1: we were ready to talk about, it but then you 1706 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:18,320 Speaker 1: get A miles turning To. MILWAUKEE, whoa that is such a. 1707 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,439 Speaker 1: Surprise so we skip, that and we Skip Kevon loodie 1708 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 1: to The pelicans end of an air and gold state, 1709 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:28,000 Speaker 1: There Nigel Hayes davis coming From europe To, phoenix And 1710 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Mason plumbley to The hornets for one year three point 1711 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,840 Speaker 1: six Mil those are contracts we just skipped. Contracts they 1712 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 1: are we'll see miss And. Plumbley they got. Centers, man 1713 01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna be so much better next. Year, anyway that's 1714 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 1: it for us. Here we'll be Back thursday to wrap 1715 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 1: up everything else that's. Happened as we, mentioned there's a 1716 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:53,720 Speaker 1: bunch of guys. Available DeAndre ayton's still, Available Duncan, robinson 1717 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 1: that's to sign a contract. Somewhere you got big men 1718 01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:01,760 Speaker 1: who can shoot out, there your, Bouchets Trey, lyles there's. 1719 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:06,360 Speaker 1: Guys there's. Guys. Guys there's guys out. There. Guys just a, 1720 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:07,920 Speaker 1: reminder we'll be doing a show In. 1721 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 2: Vegas it's Next, Friday july, eleventh at four pm in 1722 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,240 Speaker 2: The Sports book At Mandalay. Bay it's, free it's fun 1723 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,360 Speaker 2: and join. Us and if you're watching on, YouTube that's 1724 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,960 Speaker 2: where we, meet right below that, arrow right. 1725 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:28,000 Speaker 1: Right at the. Back, yeah it's gonna be really, Interesting. 1726 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 1: Jady now THAT i look at all those monitors that 1727 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,640 Speaker 1: you sit at wherever you're, sitting you like you have 1728 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 1: a monitor in front of. You, WELL. 1729 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,040 Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be behind us the way it's 1730 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 3: been described as a. 1731 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:46,919 Speaker 1: Bar and then there's that. Area so, yeah, See. 1732 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:52,160 Speaker 3: I'm sure the gamblers are gonna love every second of Our. 1733 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: I're gonna love. It they're gonna love it all. Right 1734 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 1: we will See thursday to talk more about free. Agency 1735 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 1: but until The clipper broke you heard it here, first 1736 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 1: have a great. Time turn up love you. Guys, awesome 1737 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:05,679 Speaker 1: thanks for joining. 1738 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 2: Us And i've been doing a stretch provision of my 1739 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,639 Speaker 2: own at the. HOUSE i only had two eggs left, 1740 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 2: yesterday so WHEN i was making a breakfast, BURRITO i 1741 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,759 Speaker 2: only used one, egg SO i could. 1742 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: Stretch my provisions and have another breakfast burrito. Today can 1743 01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,280 Speaker 1: go out and buy some. More, Yeah i'm gonna. Go 1744 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:24,800 Speaker 1: i'm gonna. 1745 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 2: Go it was too late in the day for me 1746 01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 2: to know to go. SHOPPING i was, Like i'll do it. 1747 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 2: TOMORROW i gotta get psyched up for. It, so, Yeah 1748 01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,559 Speaker 2: i'm buying eggs. Today Free Agency eggs. Acquired i'd love 1749 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:38,880 Speaker 2: to see somebody make a graphic for. 1750 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 1: IT i went to see how much they. 1751 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 2: Cost, yeah it's AN mL to give a dozen eggs these. 1752 01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,839 Speaker 1: Days all, right we'll talk to You. Thursday