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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and

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Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. Today we're gonna be speaking with Shelby Harris

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Speaker 1: and Kobe Bryant. Before we get to our player interviews, though,

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Speaker 1: we got to look back at the Seahawks win over

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Speaker 1: the Lions, the good and the bat. We'll start with

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Speaker 1: the good, Wyman. The offense forty eight points, Gino Smith

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Speaker 1: still the most efficient quarterback in all of football. I

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Speaker 1: did not see this offensive start for Seattle. And I

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Speaker 1: know that there are people that will say, well, it's

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Speaker 1: the Lions. I mean, who really cares? They really struggle.

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Speaker 1: Still the most yards and most points by any team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not one to look too much at how where

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Speaker 1: their defense is ranked. It's a professional football team, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I just and really it wasn't. Two guys really

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Speaker 1: tight ends and how well those guys are doing. You

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Speaker 1: could look at, you know, the fact that Gino is

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Speaker 1: just playing out of this world. He was NFC Offensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Week. And then Rashot Penny. You know,

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Speaker 1: I did a football one on one thing on him yesterday.

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Speaker 1: His first I think it was four carries were for

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Speaker 1: two yards. He had no game one yard, no game

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Speaker 1: one yard. He got six six yard carry in the

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Speaker 1: first half and then he just exploded. So it's the

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Speaker 1: way they're doing it. And Gino just looks unbelievably poised.

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Speaker 1: You know, one one play that I would point out

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Speaker 1: is the quarterback draw that he ran down inside the

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Speaker 1: ten yard line. Yeah, that was Steve Young back in

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Speaker 1: the eighties. Yeah. Every time. Yeah, you got man coverage,

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Speaker 1: everybody's got their back turn. But the way he waited

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Speaker 1: for Blythe to come and hit the block and just

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Speaker 1: very casually just strolled right in. He just looks so confident.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I don't know if he can

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Speaker 1: keep this up or not. If you compare his numbers

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Speaker 1: to let's say, Russell Wilson's, he's been styled random. Let

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Speaker 1: me just take a random quarterback. Yeah, I'll just pick somebody.

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Speaker 1: He's been six times, Russ has been sacked twelve. He's

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Speaker 1: got one hundred and eight rating, and Russ has a

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Speaker 1: ninety one seventy seven percent completion over sixty one percent.

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Speaker 1: He's got a thousand yards as opposed to nine eighty.

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Speaker 1: You know, so, yeah, he's thrown a couple interceptions, but

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Speaker 1: he's tracking for about nine or ten picks this year,

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Speaker 1: which is you know, especially single digits. You conceptional live

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Speaker 1: with that. So yeah, it's just it's a I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's just something when we asked the players like did

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Speaker 1: you see this in Gino? Like, oh, yeah, we knew that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, man, who saw this in Gino?

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Speaker 1: This wasn't I mean, only anybody thought coming no, because

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Speaker 1: this is never how he's looked as a starter. Granted,

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Speaker 1: he was only really a true starter for his first

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Speaker 1: two seasons in the NFL, and then since then hasn't

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Speaker 1: really started a full season. So think of how long

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Speaker 1: that's been. I mean, that's a good eight years since

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Speaker 1: you've seen Gino. No one really knew what to expect,

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Speaker 1: because if you expect in a game the quarterback, you've

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Speaker 1: see him practice. Everyone's out here winning MVP every single year. Bump.

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Speaker 1: They finally found a way to get DK involved. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one comment I want to say about Gino, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: a visual learner. He sat down for eight years and

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Speaker 1: got to sit behind three good quarterbacks and learned by

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Speaker 1: visualizing and being around them. But DK, I love the

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Speaker 1: way they got DK going, they moved him around. There

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Speaker 1: was a couple I want to say in the first series.

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Speaker 1: You see two tight ends in the backfield. You got

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Speaker 1: DK and locking in the slats, and they motioned the

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Speaker 1: Now you got a match up with DK ont on

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to slot. They motioned him outside. They took

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Speaker 1: to see because there's so many times guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: play off on DK. Why because he's gonna run by them,

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Speaker 1: and then DK has to make a play. DK made

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Speaker 1: a tough play going across the middle knowing he's going

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Speaker 1: to get hit. Gino serves up a good football. Boom

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Speaker 1: takes care of the football. So it's it's been fun

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Speaker 1: to see how every week there's like a group or

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Speaker 1: the tight ends get involved, these games are close. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really quick on tight ends. Thirty targets for all three guys,

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Speaker 1: kind of button ball. Yeah yeah, the defender. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: they're really they're really helping each other out. It's just

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Speaker 1: a you know, the back shoulder throw to Disley was

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Speaker 1: because that was something that frustrated me last year's It

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Speaker 1: difference that one quarterback just has different strengths than the other. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just think Gino is much more willing to take

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Speaker 1: and I'm not ripping Ross and I'm not saying that,

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Speaker 1: The other thing is they've they've been in you know,

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Speaker 1: love all of that. It's and I think the thing

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Speaker 1: is Gino has taken those things early on, and now

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Speaker 1: they're starting defense starts to suck up and then you can,

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Speaker 1: you know, throw the ball down field like the one

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Speaker 1: you described bump to metcalf. Well, speaking of the defense,

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Speaker 1: the good news is that Seattle got five hundred and

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Speaker 1: five points. And granted the Lions were second entering this

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Speaker 1: how does the defense get fixed, how do they do it?

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Speaker 1: How do they change? Are you seeing the same problems

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Speaker 1: over and over? Dave? Pretty much? Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: he ends up hitting the receiver and dislodging the ball.

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Speaker 1: He could have had a pick. And if he's just

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it just looks to me like that

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Speaker 1: if that just means they need to, you know, go

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Speaker 1: according to ESPN, anyway, but there's lots to talk about

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Speaker 1: the fact that the whole league's going to three four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good example, even if it's not the only

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Speaker 1: error made in this game. Bump, what do you see

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Speaker 1: from the defense? I see bad eyes. I see the

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Speaker 1: same things that the Seahawks do to exploit the defense,

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Speaker 1: they got to jet sweep going to the left. Then

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Speaker 1: just being aggressive too. You mentioned at three to four

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Speaker 1: and Cody Barton is not used to having a guy

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Speaker 1: Moore has been doing some homework, pretty much said he

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Speaker 1: send a video where he points with his phone. Now

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Speaker 1: little things like that, I go, yeah, there's some things

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Speaker 1: I only left you a minute. But do you want

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Speaker 1: the final word on the defense here? Yeah? How do

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Speaker 1: you explain the mistackle that Cody had on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: So there's no way that's him, it's just not so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's something going on that I think for him, he's

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Speaker 1: a different kind of player. I think he thinks a lot,

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Speaker 1: think Jordan Brooks has probably played the most consistently. Yeah, him,

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Speaker 1: Uchenna has been has been really good. But they still

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Speaker 1: don't I don't feel like they're turning out looks. There's

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Speaker 1: something that's clogging Cody's brain to miss a tackle like that.

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Speaker 1: There's just there's just no ways. Not being free don't

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Speaker 1: mentioned Nu Chenna. Nu Chenna was NFC Defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Week and I believe week one. So he's had

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Speaker 1: a fantastic start to the season. But what happens if

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Speaker 1: Here gonna switch from obviously offense to defense. Although Shelby,

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Speaker 1: dropped the interception dropboard, two interceptions, trying to drop one

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Speaker 1: job shows drop on. Yeah, could have been even more exactly,

424
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 1: so when you dive deeper, like he just mentioned Dave

425
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Speaker 1: with the three outs and then you mentioned the turnovers

426
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,679
Speaker 1: and what could have been you guys, you guys lean

427
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 1: on that and remind yourselves, like, man, don't get down,

428
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: like we're closer than what the outside things. Oh man,

429
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't see. We could care less for the outside

430
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 1: things because at the end of the day is the

431
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: only people that matter are the ones in this room.

432
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Speaker 1: We're the only ones that's gonna get this done. It's

433
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,199
Speaker 1: either we're gonna fail or we're gonna get together. You

434
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? This is. We're in a business subproduction,

435
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: and so you know, it's either we get it done

436
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 1: or they're gonna bring somebody else in here, either this

437
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: year next year to get it done right, you know

438
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you gotta look at us. How

439
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: bad do you want your job? See? You know what

440
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Go out there and fight for your job

441
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: like this this is you know, this is the land,

442
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 1: this is the life we live in the National Football League.

443
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 1: And if you're not gonna do it well enough, they're

444
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna bring somebody else in that does nobody. Like, if

445
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 1: we don't get this defense right, they're gonna replace a

446
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 1: bunch of people want this defense. This is what happens

447
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And so you go into that knowing

448
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 1: that I think it'll give you a little bit more

449
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: motivation get this right. And so and I get it.

450
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: You know they're young and all that stuff, but you

451
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: know they draft you newer young players every year, and

452
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: so you gotta take it as a pro and you

453
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: gotta take it as a shot as your manhood, you

454
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like teams are scoring on us,

455
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, they're running the ball up and down on

456
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: us and again yards through the air. So as a man,

457
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Are you just gonna let

458
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: this here? Don't let it keep happening. We're gonna sit

459
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Speaker 1: here and make a difference, right Hey, great final word,

460
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: great final thought. He is Shelby, Harris Shelby. We're excited

461
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 1: to see out there, see what this defense can do.

462
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: We obviously love the confidence in my mind when you

463
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 1: said people in this room. I know you were talking

464
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Speaker 1: about the building, it was it also included us literally

465
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Speaker 1: in this room right now and in my mind. But Shelby,

466
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, for taking the time. Well,

467
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Speaker 1: no problem, thanks for having me. All right. You are

468
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Speaker 1: listening to the huddle coming up in just a bit.

469
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Speaker 1: It is cornerback, Kobe Bryant. Don't vote anywhere. Here's a

470
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Speaker 1: second down and eight play fake back off, looks fires down,

471
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Speaker 1: the metal ball is caught, the ball is out, good,

472
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Speaker 1: ball is all the ground. Say you are listening to

473
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Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bump. No, No, I didn't. Well,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm joined by another rookie here, Kobe Bryant, on with

475
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Speaker 1: us right now, Kobe, our first time talking to you.

476
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Speaker 1: So here we are heading into week five. I haven't

477
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Speaker 1: even had a chance to ask you how you're linking

478
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Speaker 1: the NFL. I love it and obviously it's a dream

479
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 1: come true. Um, I'm still adjesting, but overall I love

480
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: it though. So it's pretty cool that, like you don't

481
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: have to go to class or like that, right, definitely cool.

482
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: You know you could just focus straight on football. Yeah,

483
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: your whole life is football now. The transition though, is

484
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of painful, as like you got you gotta

485
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: be a responsible adult, right right? Yeah, so that that

486
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Speaker 1: takes up sometimes. But then do you ever sit there

487
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Speaker 1: and just go, man, I'm playing a game that I

488
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,959
Speaker 1: used to say I would play for free, but you

489
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: know you probably would you love it so much and

490
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Speaker 1: you're getting paid for it. Yeah. Absolutely, Like I said,

491
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Speaker 1: you know my dreams come true. Um, every game is

492
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Speaker 1: a cherishable moment, you know, I cherish it all, you know,

493
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: just enjoying a moment and play the game. And I

494
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: love so man, forced to fumble and it sounded like

495
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: all week have been working on that. Is that's something

496
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: that you just developed in your game or something that's

497
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: always in part of your game. Now it's actually always

498
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: been part of my game. I can't really remember how

499
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: many forced fumbles I had in college? But I know

500
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Speaker 1: I had a lot from my position. I did. But

501
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: I always, you know, try to get the ball out

502
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: or you know, in the balls and air makers play

503
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Speaker 1: on the ball. So that's been the biggest suggestment. So

504
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: as a receiver, man, I look at I'm like, man,

505
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: i'd be so hot some dude just punching at me

506
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Speaker 1: like that. You ever receives, ever, get up, be like, man,

507
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: hip what you're doing now. I've never said that, but

508
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: better know I'm trying to get the ball out of shore.

509
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so nine interceptions. I'm trying to see how

510
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Speaker 1: many forced fumbles you got there? They don't have it here. Man, Anyway,

511
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: I was looking oh yeah, yeah, yeah, fo yeah. And

512
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Speaker 1: the thing is about you is that like you were

513
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Speaker 1: always around the ball, right, So I mean that is

514
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Speaker 1: there is there a knack do you think for because

515
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: the punch out thing, everything's happening so fast. If be

516
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: able to concentrate on you stop one little spot, right,

517
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: you gotta have a knack for it. Yeah, definitely, definitely.

518
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Speaker 1: And like I was saying my son of coaches, I

519
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, when the receiver catches it, the

520
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: first thing they want to do is you know, turn

521
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Speaker 1: up and you know, try to get a field. And

522
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: I feel that's when their most vulnerable for the ball

523
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: or I could see a little bit of space, So

524
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 1: that's the opportunity to you know, punch the ball out. Now.

525
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: The balance though, is that you know, sometimes you see

526
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: guys miss miss if you don't get it, so you

527
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: gotta cry. Gotta take care of both, yeah, and that's why,

528
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: like you said, just take care of both, you know,

529
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Speaker 1: punching and tackling at the same time, and that's gonna

530
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Speaker 1: actually generate more power for you to get the ball out.

531
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Speaker 1: I gotta imagine you and tarik Or on a text

532
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: thread talking about, man, we has a rookies out here

533
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: to do it and man, you gotta pick six. I

534
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: gotta forest ball. But it's gotta be cool to be

535
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: producing right now as a rookie. And then you got

536
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,239
Speaker 1: a rookie on that side of the ball, what you're

537
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: doing the same thing, definitely, Man, you know, I'm excited

538
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: for him, you know, and all the things. And he's accomplished,

539
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, he's doing excellent. You know, even with him

540
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, still learning a position. He's doing phenomenal. Man.

541
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Speaker 1: I'm extremely excited for him. Do you ever talk to

542
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: the officials because always thought the NFL officials everybody you know,

543
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: hate them, the fans and everything, But I felt like

544
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: they were always trying to help. And do you ever

545
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: talk to them about like what can I get away with?

546
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: What can't I get away with? You're trying to kind

547
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: of find the strike zone right now? Right? Is that

548
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: kind of what you're going through? And yeah, do they

549
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: help you out? They really haven't told us and will not.

550
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: The rest haven't said any anything to us, you know,

551
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: But now that I think about it, I should go

552
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 1: up to go up and start asking me what can

553
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: I get away with? You know, things like that so

554
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: I can help myself and you know, share the word

555
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: of what they try to tell me too. So you

556
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: played into some big games m from since. But in

557
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: Detroit it seemed loud as heck man, how loud wasn't

558
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 1: What was that communication like with the defense? Right? Well,

559
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: actually on the defense stampoint, it's not really loud offense.

560
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: But so that's a better better for us for a

561
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: communication and all that stuff. I like that you said

562
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: you like playing Nickel because you like being sort of

563
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: in the box. And you know, and Terek's the same way, man,

564
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: he is super physical. Yeah, it seems like you guys

565
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: you like that aspect of the game. Yeah, definitely. You

566
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: got to be able to talk cool, you know, that's

567
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: the first thing. Um, you know, Coach Carroll priests, you know, tackling,

568
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: you know, that's a big part of part of the defense.

569
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: You know, in order to tackle, you got to be dominant.

570
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: So if they sent you yet, like any any quarterback

571
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: blitzer or anything, are you raising your hand? Didn't have

572
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: a yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so absolutely every time I

573
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: get a chance of blitz, I'm I'm locked in. I'm

574
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: focused on that. So yeah, so you're going into week

575
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: five this week five now, right, Um, every week has

576
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: the game gotten slower from me? Happy you're taking lessons

577
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: from from each opponent. How's it feeling out there right now? Definitely,

578
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: you know I'm still growing obviously, but that's gonna be

579
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: every week. But you know, it's definitely slowing down for me.

580
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: And you know, even watching more film, you know, with

581
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: coach sit standing out the practice, working extra little things,

582
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, just to you know better on my gaming,

583
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: you know, become a dominant. What do you see from

584
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: New Orleans this week that stands out to you? Definitely

585
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: great receivers, you know, I know a couple of those

586
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: guys over there, and you know they have good, good

587
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: running backs as well. Just an overall good team. You know,

588
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: the record doesn't define who they are. They're a great team.

589
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: You know. I'm ready to compete who's been in in

590
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: just the four games you've been in so far. On

591
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: a guy that you walked away going, I can't believe

592
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: I just played against that guy. Um, I know, I'm

593
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: kind of springing it on here. You'll see Michael Thomas

594
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: probably the That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I don't

595
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: know that they've really that you guys have really played,

596
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: you know where you're walking away going, Oh my god,

597
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry was just running at me and I just

598
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: banned for a minute. But you're right. If Michael Thomas

599
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: is playing, he's got he's got I think his foot

600
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: or kneeds banged up. But if he's out there, that

601
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: would be one. But you're gonna have many of those

602
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: moments of course. Here we're hoping you come out in

603
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: the upper hand there. All right, he is rookie cornerback.

604
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to say it for at least a year.

605
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: Rookie cornerback Kobe Bryant joining us for the huddle. Kobe,

606
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: thank you so much. All Right, you guys, we're gonna

607
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: hear from Gino Smith, who hits the podium a bit

608
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: later today. Also, we've got another hour to come with

609
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: plenty of analysis from your favorite Seahawks voices. Don't go anywhere.

610
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Speaker 1: This is the huddle. You are listening to the huddle

611
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: with Dave, I'm in, Michael Bumpus, and Stacy Ross. Let's

612
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: hear from quarterback Gino Smith. You know, obviously it's uh,

613
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, you're honored UM to receive that award. Uh.

614
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: You know, they donate to a charity of my choice,

615
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: so that's pretty cool. And uh really it's more of

616
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: a team offensive. UM award you know, just speaks volumes

617
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: to the guys I'm playing around, UM, the entire offense

618
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: as a whole. You know, the quarterback gets a lot

619
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: of the attention, obviously, but uh, you know, all the

620
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: guys played well and I think all of us we

621
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: can accept that together. You remember when you wanted as

622
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: a rookie I'm not sure exactly the game, but I

623
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: do remember, yeah, I do. I have my own so

624
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: seven seventh Sunday Heroes Foundation. Um, we've been hosting uh

625
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, um underprivileged youth at the games here in

626
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: Seattle for a couple of years now. And so there's

627
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: something I've been you know, adamant about my entire career

628
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: is just philanthropy and giving back. And uh, you know,

629
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: we do a lot of stuff down in Miami, Florida,

630
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: where I'm from, and looking to do more as well. Yeah,

631
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, really it's just about giving back, you know,

632
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: allowing um, you know, guys who look like myself, young

633
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: ladies who look like myself, and just you know, in

634
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: the in the area, some some people who may be

635
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: dealing with things, just to you know, show them a

636
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 1: good time, you know, have them at a game, their

637
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: family members, uh you know, kind of like you know,

638
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: brighten their day if we can. And for the most part,

639
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: it's just helping people out, you know, just I have

640
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: a heart for giving and enjoy helping people out. Have

641
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: you been Is it mostly kids from here or has

642
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: it been a mix of We've brought kids out from

643
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: Miami to go to games. So that's been just kids

644
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: from UH locally in the area, and when I was

645
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: on other teams it was the same thing. And then

646
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: obviously when I'm back home, we do things like that

647
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: as well back home. How much do they give uh

648
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: for the charity. I'm not sure exactly the amount, but

649
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. But I'm not sure the amount,

650
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: but I think it's something something nice sat in New

651
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 1: Orleans just last year. How said a different are they

652
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: on defense? I think they have a lot of similarities,

653
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: obviously bringing back a ton of guys, starting with their

654
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: middle linebacker to Mario Um, you know Cam Jordan upfront. Uh.

655
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: You know, they got twenty three Lattimore in the back end.

656
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: They got some additions as well with Tyrann Matthew and

657
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: Marcus May. A few other guys have signed over free agents,

658
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: as well as some guys they've drafted. But overall, man,

659
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: they present the same challenges. Very good on third downs,

660
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: UH present a lot of tough looks, Um, you know,

661
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: some things that we have to be ready for and

662
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: adjust too. And then overall, you know, same mentality as

663
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: well for them, it's being aggressive. They have an aggressive

664
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: style of defense. They want to be an attacking defense

665
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: and put a lot of pressure on the quarterback, a

666
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: bunch of game sense. Then you had a whole training

667
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: campball that how much more prepared? Maybe do you feel

668
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: like you are versus what is your second start against?

669
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: Unless you know, I may be a little more comfortable

670
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: in the offense, but I felt prepared then as well. Um.

671
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: You know, I think now it's just going to be

672
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: about welcoming the new challenges and all the different diferent things.

673
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they'll have some some different looks and

674
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: some things that we're not going to see on tape.

675
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: That's what I think to do a great job at

676
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: so US being ready to adjust, um and just use

677
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: our rules, you know, um, and go with what we

678
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: know as far as the looks, and then you know,

679
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: communication on the sideline, getting too different. Things you said

680
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: after the Detroit game, you could you can still get better.

681
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Is there a specific thing or two you look at

682
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: and to be like, yeah, this is or something I

683
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: could they could be better going forward? Just everything everything. Um,

684
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be my own toughest critic, um, and

685
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: so I always feel like I can play better in

686
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: that game specifically, you know, I feel like I left

687
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: the touchdown out there, want to tie to Lockett. And

688
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: then just you know, accuracy and things like that. Those

689
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: are the things I might reads my full work, my accuracy.

690
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm hard on myself on those things, and uh, you know,

691
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: I still feel like I'm growing in those areas, so

692
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: I can definitely get better. On the other side of

693
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: that question, what do you feel like you've done best

694
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: over the first four games? Uh? Just moving the chains,

695
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like as an offense, we've done

696
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: a great job at moving the chains. Um, standing manageable situations,

697
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, being really good on first and seconds. Uh,

698
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: and then overall just you know, winning, trying to win games. Um,

699
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm good at. You know, that's I

700
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: don't really think about it like that. I think about

701
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: us as as a whole. What are we great at?

702
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: And I think we've done a great job at moving

703
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: the chains and being consistent in the area the whole

704
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: team meetings. How many individual or like little group meetings

705
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: are you a part of in any given week as

706
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: you prepare for a game. Yeah, we do a bunch

707
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: of them. You know. When Russell was here, we used

708
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: to come together and do it collectively on Tuesdays. But

709
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: me now I'm more of a you know, I zoom

710
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: call FaceTime these guys when they're at home, just to

711
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: give them more time to be at home, and I

712
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: FaceTime them and go over the game plan and certain

713
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: things that we're seeing. And for the most part, I

714
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: do it myself individually with each specific guy, And so

715
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: it's not more of a collective thing where it's what

716
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: it used to be was collective. Now it's more just

717
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: me calling them, calling those guys and getting on the

718
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: phone with them and talking them through certain things in

719
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: the game plan, the offense every two not every single guy,

720
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: but you know, just the guys who are you know,

721
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: we got certain things that I need them to see

722
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: on tape and need them to see as far as

723
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: the player they're going against, or certain leverages or certain

724
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: looks us. We used to give a test at the end,

725
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: at the end of every duty something that no, not

726
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: at all. So you uh, you like me with just

727
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: you and Shane and it all or maybe you Drew

728
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: and Shane, or you Drew Shane and Shane and Dave

729
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: or yeah we got all those, you got all those.

730
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's me and Shane. Then it's you know,

731
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: Drew and I and and Sean, and then you know

732
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: all of us together as a group. So we were

733
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: just continually continuously meeting and talking and texting and just communicating.

734
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: However we can, let me describe the thor of the

735
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: evolution of your relationship with Shane and how that's growing

736
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: from last year. Word is now I think it's growing. Um.

737
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: You know, what I will share about Shane is that

738
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: he does a great job with all the guys, not

739
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: just me. He's still coaching Drew, still coaching Sean and

740
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: collectively as a group. That's kind of how we work

741
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: as a whole, not just individual. But our relationship had already.

742
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: He's been great and it's just continue went to grow.

743
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: I think as we continue to play more and more games. Um,

744
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, different aspects of that relationship will grow and

745
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: we'll learn from certain things. But overall, I know Shane

746
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: trust me and I trust him, and I think that's

747
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: the important thing. The questions argue that asked, but what

748
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: do you take from the game film last year against

749
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: the Saints that might be useful this week? Yeah, good question.

750
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: I just think all the looks they gave us you know,

751
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: they gave us a bunch of tough looks on third

752
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: downs and um, you know, they're really good and they're

753
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: past rush and the schemes and the way that they

754
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: scheme up things. So just being prepared for that and

755
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: then um, just handling the situations. You know, I think

756
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: we did a pretty good job last year, but we

757
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: weren't great in situational football, and so handling those situations

758
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: when they come about in the gamely four weeks in, folks,

759
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: in the task at hand that you're in the midst

760
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: of doing something that we pretty I've really seen before.

761
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: The guy who's in the back effort seven years and

762
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: now year in the top of the league and pass

763
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: your rating and just kind of a player of the league.

764
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: You surprised about it? Yeah, yeah, you told me before

765
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: the season. They'll be a little surprised. That's because you

766
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: never watched me through. Yeah, what are you? What are

767
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: you thinking about that? I don't mean nothing of it.

768
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm just playing ball, Um, doing what I'm supposed to do.

769
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: And like I said, it's a testament to the guys

770
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm playing with and around. Um, none of that's possible

771
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: without you know, the officer line, protecting the way they do,

772
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: receivers getting open and catching the way they do, Shane

773
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: calling great play. So um, it's it's more of a

774
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: collective thing versus just me myself, you know, I know

775
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: that it's more that goes into it. And uh, you know,

776
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: every everyone's putting doing their part and putting their weight.

777
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: Take issue with anybody who is surprised by that. I

778
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: have no issue with anybody at all. But if you

779
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: are surprised, it's just because you never seen me throw.

780
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: Going back to going back to training camp, going against

781
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: some tree polls out there was there a moment or

782
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: a play that stood out like, okay, even by NFL

783
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: Sanders and this guy's a different speedwise, Yeah, that was

784
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of plays man. I mean he made so

785
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: many great plays in camp. I mean I can't, you know,

786
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: speak on one specific play, but I mean just trying to,

787
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: you know, going at him, think, Okay, you know, if

788
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: you get a one on one against the rookie nine

789
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: times out of ten, you're feeling like, Okay, we got

790
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: a great matchup. And then seeing that, well man, he's

791
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: he's kind of you know, shutting it down and it's

792
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: probably not the best to just go at him all

793
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 1: the time. So, I mean he's a freak of nature.

794
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: He's six four runs a four to two, He's got

795
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: great ball skills, and I mean he's just you know,

796
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, growing into what he's going to become. He's

797
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of room to grow as well. And

798
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it. Man, He's already off

799
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: to a great start. There's a lot of measures successful

800
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: not having Michael Dixon punch in the game. We're just

801
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: not ranking as far as measures of success in the game.

802
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that's pretty successful, not to

803
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: point not to punt in the game. Um, you know,

804
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: obviously Michael's a great punter, and uh you know he's

805
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: always you know, gonna give you, you know something inside

806
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: the twenty. He's always doing a great job of flipping

807
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: field position for us. But you know, we want to

808
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: go out there and score points, and uh you know,

809
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: if that means giving him the day off, then you

810
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: know that's what it will be. You me, Davis, he

811
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: was at a good game against you guys last year.

812
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: Call what sort of the channels with him and what

813
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: makes him even all that? Uh? You know, de Mario

814
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: and I were on the Jets together when I got drafted,

815
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: and he's always been, um, a great running hit player. Um,

816
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: he's he's got a lot of passion. You know, he's

817
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: the leader of that team, leader of that defense, and

818
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: he's very smart. He calls the defense. Um, he can

819
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: get them in and out of any check, any call. Um.

820
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: You can see that he and the decordinated they're um,

821
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, they're locked in with what they're seeing and

822
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: how they want to play. And so you know, Demrio's

823
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: he's always been a great player and uh, you know

824
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: he's he's a really good middle linebacker. And you know,

825
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: we just got to be ready to know where he

826
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: is and uh, you know, take advantage of opportunities when

827
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: we have him in Detroit. After the game, a lot

828
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: of the guys were talked about the communication and how

829
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: affected you and the offense was getting to the right

830
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: checks and to the points that. Man, how's Austin Blaye helped.

831
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: He's been good a man. Austin is Uh congratulating Austin's

832
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: as well. He just had a baby, but um, you

833
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: know Austin has done great job. Man. His communication is outstanding.

834
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: You know, he makes it extremely easy on the quarterback.

835
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm not up there yelling all the calls all the guys.

836
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: You know, I can say one thing and he'll get

837
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: the rest of it communicated. And he's just on point

838
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: at every step of the way. Our communication has grown

839
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: as continuent to grow, and Austin does a great job, man.

840
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's communicating and leading all the guys

841
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: and you can see. I mean, we got two rookie

842
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: tackles out there, and you know, we don't bat and eye,

843
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, with the protections we're calling and things we're doing,

844
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of that has to do with Austin

845
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: and the way he communicates and gets guys lined up

846
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: and gets them, you know, in the right places. All right.

847
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: That was quarterback Gino Smith speaking of Gino in the offense.

848
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: Don't look now, but the Seahawks having a quietly great

849
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: start to the season there, especially in the passing offense.

850
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: Let's find out what's going right with Ray Roberts. He

851
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: joins us next on the huddle. You are listening to

852
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and Stacy Ross

853
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: joining us. Now Ray Roberts. As we go in the trenches,

854
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: and we're going to start on offense. Ray a fantastic

855
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: week for Gino Smith. Oh yeah, it was awesome. It

856
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: was good to see um, you know, leading up to

857
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: that game about you know what opening up the offense

858
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: is going to be. And then it was just basically

859
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: really just giving Gino ownership of the playbook, and I

860
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: thought he was in unbelievable command of the offense. He

861
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: was cool and calm, even though the play clock was

862
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: running down and everybody's watching it going nuts. They only

863
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: had to use like one time out, but he kept

864
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: getting him into the right play call and especially on

865
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: those two runs that he audible too for the touchdown.

866
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: So it was really excited just to see him still

867
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: progressing as a player at this stage in his career.

868
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: But it's also playing within himself. He looks like a

869
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: twelve year veteran, right, like a guy who started every year.

870
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: It's amazing, and you know he's getting he's getting the

871
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: ball out on time and everything. But you gotta say

872
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: the young bucks out on the edge. And you know,

873
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: I was just looking at his sack totals. He's only

874
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: got six sacks. He's tracking for you know, maybe nine

875
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: ten interceptions, but he's gotten some really good protection from

876
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: that offensive line. Yeah, I'll just watch rewatching the game

877
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday and just really zero and in

878
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: on those tackles and kind of seeing where their improvement

879
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: is coming from. But really a lot of the improvement

880
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: is coming from the guard in the center because they're

881
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: keeping the pocket deep. Sometimes when you have those young

882
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: guys and the edge of rushers, you know, the quarterback

883
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: gets pushed to them because the middle of the pocket

884
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: is getting to lapse. But the garden tackles are doing

885
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the garden center are doing a really good

886
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: job of keeping the depth of the pocket and then

887
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: allows those guys to keep the outside rushers wide and

888
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: around the corner. And so I had to say one thing,

889
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, big Abe, like I've I've been singing his

890
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: praises since the preseason, and he just continues to get better.

891
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: And then also with Charles Cross, like, I see that

892
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: he's been a little playing a little bit lower in

893
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: his past sets, using his hands a little bit more

894
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: violently versus catching guys. So he's kind of getting his

895
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: hands at arms extended a little bit more, get those

896
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: dudes off his body a little bit. So really excited

897
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: about what they're doing. And uh, and then also just

898
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: how you know, it's just running everything ray, Um, it's

899
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: beautiful to see Rashad Penny do his thing. One fifty

900
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: two touchdowns and he should continue to get fed. But

901
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: what do you think about the rookie Ken Walker? Do

902
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: you feel like they'll eventually give him a couple more

903
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: touches or do you just ride with Penny and when

904
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: he taps that helmet and it needs a break, you're

905
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: bringing the youngster. Well, I think what they I think

906
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: maybe their game plan for now is a good one

907
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: for for Walker because they use him on the fly

908
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: sweep and he's gotten a couple, i think one or

909
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: two screen passes, so they're trying to get him out

910
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: into space and things like that. But because right now,

911
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: I just think they have Penny kind of locked in,

912
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: you have to let that dude be the bell cow.

913
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: And so if that's like eighteen carries and then and

914
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: then and then then Walker can get you know, maybe

915
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: eight or ten carries in some form of fashion, I

916
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: think that's great. But even watching the film, Mike like

917
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: they were especially early in the game with the guards, uh,

918
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: weren't quite securing the defense the tackles as much, they

919
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: probably left maybe another twenty or thirty yards for Penny

920
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: on the field, So it could have been like an

921
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: even bigger night had like the guard played just been

922
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: a little tighter to start the game out because the

923
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: tackles were setting the edge well, getting up to the

924
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: next level, cutting off the backside and things like that.

925
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: But there's just a little leakage in the middle early

926
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: in the game that that maybe stopped one or two

927
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: plays that we're going to be ten or eleven yard games.

928
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: So I think if they can get Walker involved in

929
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: the screen game, uh in the fly sweep, get us

930
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: some carries from you know, from the you know, from

931
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: under center, the you know, from the running back position,

932
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: and just kind of sprint them in like that. I

933
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: think then when you have those moments where Penny maybe

934
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: isn't on his deal, you have another guy that's kind

935
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: of you know, warmed up and ready to go. Hey.

936
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: I know that there are a lot of layers to

937
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: this answer, but what's up with this defense ray question?

938
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: It's like Miss America and it's like, what would you

939
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: do about creating world peace? One minute? I know it right, No,

940
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: but but no, I I've an answer because I've just

941
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: been watching them a lot, and I think, you know,

942
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: Dave woman has to say about assignment and alignment, and

943
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: I think in a lot of regards they are doing

944
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: those things. They are lined up where they're supposed to

945
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: be lined up, and they're getting to where they're supposed

946
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: to get. But then the next part of that is

947
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: that then you have to go be a football player,

948
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: and that's the part that's missing. Like I think that

949
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: they're trying to be you know, you're learning this new system.

950
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: You're trying to get to where you line up where

951
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be, get to where you're supposed to

952
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: get to, and that's all great. So like if you

953
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: just had to get you know, a plus or minus

954
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: based on your alignment and where you get where you

955
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: got to, you probably get pluses. But then when you

956
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: get there, you got to make something happen, you know.

957
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: So like I when I watched it, the woman, Yes,

958
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: they're they're getting, uh, you know, to the gaps are

959
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: supposed to get to, but there's no separation and then violence,

960
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, violence with their hands and get off the

961
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: block to make the tackles. I see the linebackers sliding

962
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: and get into the gaps I supposed to get to.

963
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: But then they're catching the guards and just getting driven

964
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: down the field. So now did I feel like if

965
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: they feel good about their assignment in lineman, now they

966
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: have to go be football players and let loose all

967
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: of that talent and all that power and all that

968
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: strength and all that speed, all that kind of stuff.

969
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: You have to kind of unleash that because it feels

970
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: like as if they're just in their brains a lot

971
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: thinking like, Okay, I'm in the right place, but then

972
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: when you get there, you got to show it with

973
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: bad intentions. Wyman bumping Curtis have been dying laughing for

974
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: about a minute. We got you covered. Ray, They have

975
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: been losing it all right, right, so tears the man's

976
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: fired up their h so big Ray. What would you

977
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: if you're the coach of the defense and and you're right,

978
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean that third part you kind of have to

979
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: unclog your brain or you've got to just turn it

980
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: off or just anything. Is that? What would you do

981
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: as a coach? Would you think, okay, let's simplify, uh,

982
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: let's um, you know, do something different. What do you

983
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: think No, I don't. I don't think you need to simplify.

984
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like guys don't know what they're doing.

985
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of like, uh, I guess this

986
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: is where it kind of like the Pete Carroll stuff

987
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: comes in, where you're when you're more of the mental

988
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: part of the game, you know, whereas this game is

989
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: probably about eighty percent mental and twenty percent physical. So

990
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: the mental part of it is just letting them be

991
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: who they are. Go be the player that you are. Go,

992
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, for Jordan Brooks to be this big, fast,

993
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, hard hitting linebacker, for Cody Barton to be

994
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: to use his intelligence and his you know, craftiness to

995
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: get to tackles, for putting forward, to get off blocks,

996
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: to make tackles. That's the line of scrimmage or you know,

997
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage, those types of things. So

998
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: I think that part is where it's not necessarily simplifying it,

999
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: but it's just kind of freeing them up mentally mentally

1000
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: to just go be football players. You know, you are

1001
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be. Now do what you get

1002
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: paid to do, you know, crease some damage, all right?

1003
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: He is Ray Roberts joins us every single week as

1004
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: we go in the trenches to I mean, initially the

1005
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: plan is find out more about the offensive line. But

1006
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: given that Ray is an analyst who is on the

1007
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: pre and post game show every week, helpful to take

1008
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: a look at what the right That was my personally,

1009
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: my favorite part of the interview. Ray, you weren't wrong.

1010
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: You were not wrong. All right, right, thanks for joining us.

1011
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: We will hear you on pre and post this weekend

1012
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: and talk to you next Thursday. Yeah, yes, sah see

1013
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: you guys later. Ray is not wrong when he talks

1014
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: about the defense needs to make it happen, because that's

1015
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: some of what we've seen, right, is this defense? Actually

1016
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: this is a better question for the two of you.

1017
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: Does it look like they know how to get there,

1018
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: they just can't tackle and can't make it happen, or

1019
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: does it look like they're not in the right place?

1020
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: I think so. I disagree for wants with Ray. I

1021
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: do think that it might be too complicated and that

1022
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: they need to simplify. Here. Here's what my question would be.

1023
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: Explain the mistackle by Cody Barton on the sidelines that

1024
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: it's inexplicable. You know, he's he's and people just went

1025
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: nuts over that right, and then you know, and then

1026
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: down on the goal line, the one where he totally

1027
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: misses Jared Goff. You know, Jared runs it in for

1028
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Um, you know the play that Lofa pointed

1029
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: out where he could have had a pick if he's

1030
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: playing free and easy. So I just I don't know,

1031
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's just him. Um, but I don't know,

1032
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think we're overreacting a little bit because

1033
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at I know, the five

1034
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: hundred twenty yards and everything, but you look at the

1035
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: things that we talked to Shelby about, like there's a

1036
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: couple of picks drop. You know, they had the you know,

1037
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: the fumble. I mean, when does Tyler Lockett fumble? When

1038
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: does Tyler Lockett ever do anything wrong? You know, I mean,

1039
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: it's just that happened. Then they have the I thought

1040
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: they get pretty lucky on the fourth down conversion on

1041
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: the pond, Punter throws a you know, kind of a

1042
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: wobbly pass. But yeah, just uh, I think maybe they're

1043
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: closer than we think. All right, Um, we're gonna talk

1044
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: about this as we look ahead to a week five.

1045
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a bit of a preview of the

1046
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: Saints coming up at one thirty. First, though, we're gonna

1047
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: bring on the Voice of the Seahawks. Steve Rabel joins us. Next,

1048
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: you are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

1049
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross, joined now by the Voice of the Seahawks,

1050
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: Steve Rabel and Raves. I got a Warren, Yeah, reminder

1051
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: to keep it radio friendly here. We may have had

1052
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: one regular guest slip a little bit when we're trying

1053
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: to figure out this defense, but uh, I trust that

1054
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: that that you'll keep it keep it together here right. Well,

1055
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what you're talking about, Raves. I'm actually

1056
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: gonna start with defense. We started with offense for all

1057
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: of our interviews here. The defense is so frustrating to

1058
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: watch because they have talented players. Part of me thinks, like,

1059
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: it can't just be the switch to a three four.

1060
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: But what do you think's going on with them? Well,

1061
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: I think it's the combination of everything. I mean, you've

1062
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of new guys playing, some of them

1063
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: in the kind of altered positions a little bit. You

1064
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: got somewhat of a new scheme. I mean, it's not

1065
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: totally different. The guys who are playing, even in the

1066
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: four to three playing some of these same kinds of

1067
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: ideas that the three four entails. But you know, they're

1068
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: just kind of not playing great together as a group

1069
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: right now. But I agree with Pete. I think it's

1070
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: going to come mostly because you have really good football

1071
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: players there. If you didn't, then you might be concerned.

1072
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: But you've got as much speed as I can ever

1073
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: remember us having on defense. It's a matter of getting

1074
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: guys in the right place. And I think I heard

1075
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: Dave mentioning earlier is not overthinking. You know, when you

1076
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: have to stop and think about what you're doing, then

1077
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: it then it causes you to pause and even for

1078
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: a split second, and the guys on the other side

1079
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: of the line will be passed you by then. So

1080
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: you know, you just want to make it so that

1081
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: everybody knows what their assignments are. And I think that

1082
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: all of that's going to come mostly because I think

1083
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: these guys, as I said, are good enough football players

1084
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: that they'll make it happen. Yeah, Rapes, nobody ever accused

1085
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: me of overthinking. So we're here. Yeah, what about though,

1086
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: I think we're starting to get the payoff from the rookies.

1087
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: You know, we had just had kolbe in here and

1088
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: then you know we had uh, you know, we had

1089
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: watched Trek wool and get the pick six and the

1090
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: punch out from from Kobe. So it's pretty cool to

1091
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: see that starting to pay off because for a while there,

1092
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: you know, there's lots of holding penalties things like that,

1093
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, we're starting to see

1094
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: the upside from these young guys on defense. Yeah, I

1095
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: can't tell you how impressive Trek Woollen is. And yeah,

1096
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: he's gotten himself a couple of a couple of cheap

1097
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: penalties and um and in a couple of instances where

1098
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 1: he's right there to make the play, which is what's

1099
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: so encouraging in my mind. He's there to make the play,

1100
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: whether to knock the path down or whatever to do

1101
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: to keep the receiver from catching it, and for whatever reason,

1102
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: a couple of times he's kind of gotten his little hands.

1103
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: He maybe reached out and grab some jersey a little bit,

1104
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: But that's you know, that's that's kind of young players

1105
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: learning the business in the National Football League. And so

1106
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm just wildly encouraged by how how close he is

1107
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: I think to making those kind of plays. Brian the

1108
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: same way. I mean, he's been on coverage playing a

1109
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: new position, you know, nickelback. He hadn't played that before.

1110
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: And it's a different animal playing inside than it is

1111
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: out on the edge. So you know, I think there

1112
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: are lots of things to be encouraged about. And the

1113
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: one kind of big thing that's sort of overhangs all

1114
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: this is certainly fixable, and that is you got to

1115
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: tackle better, taking the right angles, making the tackle when

1116
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity, and it just comes with doing it.

1117
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: You know, you get better at it as you as

1118
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: you do it. Now, this is spoken from a wide

1119
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: receiver who tried to line up wide every time and

1120
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: stay away from as much contact as it was humanly possible.

1121
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: But still I've watched enough defensive play to know that

1122
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: that's the case, and these guys will get better at

1123
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: securing those tackles. Rais, we've seen Gino play out of

1124
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: his mind to us, at least to him, he's doing

1125
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do. And he was asked, you know,

1126
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: he was asked a question. He pretty much that that

1127
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: he could play better. If there's anything better that Gino

1128
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: can do, what would that be? I don't know, because

1129
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: I was going to ask I interviewed Pete this afternoon,

1130
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: and I was going to ask him that same question.

1131
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: What on earth could he be doing better right now

1132
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: that he's already doing. I don't know. I mean, you know,

1133
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: he's he's getting into some of the plays that have

1134
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: been the biggest plays for the Seahawks audibling when he

1135
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: sees what you know, he and Shane the offensive coordinator

1136
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: have talked over prior to the game. If you see this,

1137
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: then check to that. And he's getting into those kinds

1138
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: of plays. He's understanding where the pressure is coming from,

1139
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: he's getting the ball out of his hands. He's even

1140
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: running the football. He ran for a touchdown the other day.

1141
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: He scrambled for first downs. So I don't know what.

1142
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: And he's been very, very accurate with the football, So

1143
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what he could be better doing. He's

1144
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: leading the team well, the guys in the huddle that

1145
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of shut up and listen to him,

1146
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: and that's what you're supposed to do when the quarterback

1147
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: steps in. I just hope whatever it is I hope

1148
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: he just keeps continue doing it because he is as

1149
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: big a reason and maybe the biggest reason why the

1150
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: Seahawks have won a couple of games, and are I

1151
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: think are on kind of track now to really get rolling.

1152
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I mean, I have no idea

1153
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: other than like what complete ninety five percent of his passes?

1154
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: Like something that we just don't see. I wanted to

1155
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 1: take a step outside of Seattle. Look at the NFC West,

1156
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: every team two and two right now, San Francisco beating

1157
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: up on the Rams, the Rams defense not being as

1158
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: good as we thought, Arizona struggling in ways we didn't

1159
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: expect or maybe should have without Hopkins. Does this feel

1160
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: as wide open a division as it is right now

1161
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: just in the standings, or do you think that the

1162
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: Rams and forty nine ers kind of start to pull

1163
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: ahead up here? Well? I don't want to jump on

1164
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: the Rams bandwagon yet because we haven't really seen them

1165
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: up close. We haven't played against and we know what

1166
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: they can do. But the forty nine Ers we have

1167
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: played against, and they are as complete a teams as

1168
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: we have faced. You know, just all you gotta do

1169
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: is look at the scoreboard, for one thing, but they

1170
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: run the ball really well. Garoppolo for the most part,

1171
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: is in control of what he's doing. He misses some

1172
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: passes a time or two, but he's got some great weapons.

1173
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: And you know, Pebo Samuel's as good as anybody in

1174
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: the league right now. So I think the forty nine ers,

1175
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: I would say they're the ones that we're going to

1176
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: be looking at down the you know, the barrel of

1177
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: the gun at the end of the season, if we

1178
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: keep getting better on defense and continuing what we're doing

1179
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: on offense. And the Rams, let's see, they're they're playing

1180
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: with some new guys up front, especially on the offensive front,

1181
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: and so that's been a little bit of some maybe

1182
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: some question marks for him, but all at all, I

1183
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, and the Cardinals are kind of up and down.

1184
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, one week they might play great and score

1185
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: forty five points. In the next week they score twelve

1186
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: and I can't get out of their own way. So

1187
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: we'll we'll see what the rest of the season brings.

1188
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: Right now, though, and tell me, if you've heard this

1189
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: any place before, all I'm really concerned about are the Saints, right,

1190
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna be hearing a lot do you even know

1191
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: who they play after the Saints? It's the next Uh,

1192
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: I tell you, I think it's I or one week

1193
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: at a time. You're right, I was on it. Yeah,

1194
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: I like I like asking players that because it's tried

1195
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: and true. Man. You just that's just the way it is,

1196
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: unless they have like if you're going somewhere like, yeah,

1197
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: I knew that because I have family there and I

1198
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: got to get tickets and things like that. But yeah,

1199
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: for them right or in the case of this week,

1200
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: there's a you know, there's a Cajun restaurant that they

1201
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: want to go to, and and and then you know,

1202
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: join DK on the cart. Then after that on Sunday,

1203
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: you got to be careful, where are these interviews going today?

1204
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: You already had to believe somebody, Oh well you have

1205
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: a minute. I heard you guys talking to Rick Riz

1206
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: who I Rick I have known for as long as

1207
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: he's been here, you know, as as a couple of

1208
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: guys who kind of talk about, you know, their teams

1209
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: in this city. And I got I was driving and

1210
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: I got so excited just listening to him, you know,

1211
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: talk about guys and talk about situations, and he remembers

1212
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: every statistic that that there is to remember. Um, you know,

1213
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: he'd make a case of food poisoning. Exciting he is.

1214
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: He is just that kind of guy. And I can't wait.

1215
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: I can't wait for tomorrow. I can't wait to hear

1216
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: the call of the row. Yeah, I guess we get

1217
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: to see like two thirds of the game, maybe because

1218
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: our playing leaves, but yeah, we'll it's really happy for Rick, Yeah,

1219
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: we really are. And everybody all right. He is a

1220
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. You can hear him

1221
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: this Sunday on this call against the Saints. Thanks Rapes. Okay, kid,

1222
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: thank you. All right, we're gonna take a look at

1223
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. Here. You have one superstar who

1224
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: expects to play and one star who may not. That's

1225
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: coming up next. You are listening to the huddle with

1226
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and Stacy Ross. Who are the

1227
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. We know they're the Seahawks Week five opponent.

1228
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: Let's find out a bit more about them now. I'm

1229
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: going to start offensively, where you got three injuries to

1230
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: watch for. Running Back Alvin Kamara is dealing with a

1231
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: rib injury. He says he expects to play. Meanwhile, quarterback

1232
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston and wide receiver Michael Thomas did not practice

1233
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: yesterday after missing last week's game TBD. If they're gonna play,

1234
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: So if we do see Andy Dalton under center. I

1235
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: did not catch a lot of that game in London

1236
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: at six bump. I gotta be honest, but you did.

1237
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: You did watch it? Tell us how Andy Dalton looked

1238
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: and what kind of offense from the scenes we can

1239
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: expect with him. He looks like Andy Dalton. He looked

1240
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: like a quarterback who's been around the league for a while,

1241
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: and is um just the backup quarterback? Didn't have a

1242
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: horrible day twenty five or thirty eight, two seventy three,

1243
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: one touchdown. I'm sorry as Kirk Cousins stats twenty twenty eight,

1244
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: two thirty six, one touchdown order sexy still the same

1245
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: guy right, different sexed twice and you watched this offense

1246
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: and they're not the Withdrew Brees. He didn't throw the

1247
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: ball down the field like a hundred yards, right, but

1248
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: he found a way to push it to like that

1249
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty yard range. When I look at Andy Dalton,

1250
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: he's looking for that underneath stuff. He wants to let

1251
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: his the athletic receivers get it for him. Honestly, Olive

1252
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: was four seventy six one touchdown. He's young receiver out

1253
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: of the Ohio State University. It's a lot of possession

1254
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: right This team wants to work the ball down the

1255
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,959
Speaker 1: field slowly. They're like a middle pact type of team.

1256
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: If you look at their stats off its offensively and defensively. Um.

1257
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: But this is a team that you have to respect

1258
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: no matter what I mean. The Seahawks and where they

1259
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: are as an organization right now, there's no room just

1260
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Speaker 1: to show up and say, Okay, this should be a

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00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 1: winner for us. You know what I'm saying. Um. So

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00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: it's a It's a team that's gonna challenge you. Defensively,

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00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: they got some guys over there on that personnel that

1264
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: will that will make you work. I'm interested to see

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00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: how Gino bounces back. But offensively, the Saints are ninth

1266
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: in the league. I was in three sixty four per game.

1267
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: They're sixteenth when it comes to rush and their ninth

1268
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to pass, and those are their offensive numbers.

1269
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: They they will challenge you and every team in this

1270
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: league will challenge you. But to Andy Dalton, if he

1271
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: is the guy, you press him and hope that he

1272
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: starts the ball over. This team has given the ball

1273
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: away eleven times. They're dead last and turnover ratio, uh,

1274
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: they're minus seven. So of course any team that jamis

1275
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: Winston yea handing out into I wish I could have

1276
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: played against him. I was right. There was a defender

1277
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: that used to play, I believe with him who was

1278
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: talking about him and was like we knew he'd turned

1279
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: the ball over, and it's like, dang former teammates. Yeah, probably,

1280
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: I probably would have dropped it anyway. Yeah, but you

1281
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: know you look at just to go look on their defense. Yeah,

1282
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: like Bump said, you know, they're they're pretty much the

1283
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: same thing. Their middle of the road. They're number twelve,

1284
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: they're number nine against the past. But Damario Davis, I

1285
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: think is one of the best, one of my favorite

1286
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: linebackers in the league. And remember he had a really

1287
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: good game last year up here. But he's their number

1288
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: two tackler. He's got two sacks, he's got a couple

1289
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Speaker 1: of passes broken up. I mean, he's just all over

1290
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: the field. Same with Pete Werner, who was a I

1291
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: think he was a second round draft choice at Ohio

1292
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: State a couple of years ago, twenty one right actually

1293
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: last year, and he's their number one Tackler's got forty tackles,

1294
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: a forced fumble, pass broken up, a tackle for loss.

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just all over the field. And then

1296
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: you know you got Marshawn Lattimore, Turan Matthew. So yeah,

1297
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: they this is they're always a threat. And that's the

1298
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: thing until when the Seahawks are two and two, and

1299
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: until you're you know, you're pretty much going to be

1300
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: in every game. It's not like you're going to go

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01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: into a game right now and go, oh, we should

1302
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: just kill these guys. First of all, you're on the road,

1303
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: which is always difficult. But yeah, it's just they just

1304
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: haven't quite gotten that to that level just yet. Where

1305
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: But isn't the case every week where you go and

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01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: you think, okay, New Orleans probably should get a w

1307
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you look at their

1308
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: line up and go baller, yeah, and then you don't

1309
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: see it. I mean, I was turning to you, so

1310
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: I had the defensive depth start up to ask you

1311
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: some questions about the defense and I'm just thinking, I

1312
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: know every person on this team. I mean, it's not

1313
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: often that you look at a team and you know

1314
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: the first second guy out a position and uh, it

1315
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: just feels like they should be so much better than

1316
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: one in three. Yeah, that's the NFL for you. That's

1317
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: that's how small the margin of error is. And I'm

1318
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing DK go after mars Shawn Lattimoregan.

1319
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: You guys remember last year they got into it a

1320
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: little bit. DKA ended up with seven for one forty

1321
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: nine on ten targets. But no, that wasn't he didn't

1322
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: do that last year. No, they did get into it

1323
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: last year. Craig, they got into it last year, and

1324
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: he drew two flags on mars Shawn Lattimore and got

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01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: into his head, got into his head. So like I

1326
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: in these games too, Like obviously you want to see

1327
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: your team do well, but I also look at like

1328
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,479
Speaker 1: the history, like all right, you think Marshawn Lattimore forgot

1329
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: about that, you think DK forgot about that? Like how

1330
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: are they going to handle those type of situations this year? So, um,

1331
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: that's one thing I'm gonna be looking at day. I

1332
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: loved what DK said last week when they were talking

1333
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: about Akuda. Yeah, yeah, and he's like he's got help

1334
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: help over the top. He's a good corner. But the

1335
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: one in one of the catches, the one where he

1336
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: ran down to like the one yard line, he just

1337
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: swatted him aside. You know, I just I love these

1338
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: little battles and I feel like, well, remember in twenty twenty,

1339
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: he was like the king of drawing penalty. Yeah, you know,

1340
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: and I think you said he got he got one

1341
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: last year from from Lattimore, but you know, and then

1342
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 1: last year he kind of got a little bit too

1343
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: fired up. But he just seems like he is so

1344
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: on his game right now. So um and and love

1345
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: seeing that because you know that was the thing when

1346
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: Russ left, you thought, a man, should you spend all

1347
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: that money on DK yeah, or is it going to

1348
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: be a running team or whatever. And I'm really happy

1349
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: for both him and Lockett that they you know, that

1350
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: Gino's having such a good year and get them the

1351
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: ball because they're so talented. The Seahawks were already upset

1352
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: and upset at least two betters and the Lions game

1353
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: betters were Lions were almost two touchdown favorites in that one.

1354
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: This week in New Orleans, Seahawks still the underdog by

1355
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: nearly a touchdown. Now, the home field is always going

1356
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: to have that field goal advantage nearly a touchdown though,

1357
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: I can't guys, what do you think? I mean, either

1358
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: one of you all have both of you answer, But

1359
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: I go back and forth between whether I think that

1360
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: that touchdown favorite for New Orleans is what was the

1361
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: spread in Detroit? Wasn't it like twelve points something crazy?

1362
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: It was there. It was Detroit's biggest spread in I

1363
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: think since twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah,

1364
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: what people, and you can tell. I mean, look, these

1365
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: guys that are setting the line. They're looking at Geno

1366
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: Smith and they're looking at Shot Penny, and those two

1367
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: guys have just been a total surprise. So every once

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01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: in a while they get it wrong and I'm happy

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: to be the recipient of it as a fan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this New Orleans team, Dave, you're right, They've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of ballers and Bump, you're right, and the Andy

1372
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: Dalton he can still get stuff done, right. If you've

1373
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: got healthy weapons around you, you can still get that done.

1374
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: So what we're waiting for with this New Orleans team

1375
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: is whether some of those weapons are going to include

1376
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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. By the way, Taysom Hill has not thrown

1377
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: a pass, but has he run for anything? Yeah? He

1378
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: is a runner. He's very good. He's their second leading

1379
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: he's got two touchdowns. He's their second leading rusher. Yeah, yeah,

1380
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: behind mark Ingram. But yeah, they he has not thrown.

1381
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: But you know, the the guy that I think, you know,

1382
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: if you could pick one guy off their roster to

1383
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: have on your team. Yeah, even though we have good

1384
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: running backs, I love Alvin Kamara, yep, and he is.

1385
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: He's a tough guy. He's a great screen guy. Good, um,

1386
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, as far as catching the ball. So it's

1387
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: gonna be yeah, every every week, huge test, all right. Um.

1388
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: Most of our conversation with the Saints began with the

1389
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: injury report. They're a little banged up, Seahawks a little healthier,

1390
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: but Rashad Penny did not practice yesterday. Let's figure out

1391
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: how serious that is with John Boyle, who joins us next.

1392
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: You are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

1393
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross. John Boyle Seattle or Seattle Seahawks reporter

1394
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: is going to join us in just a couple of minutes.

1395
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring him in start by looking at some

1396
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: of these injuries. Um, do you think that? So I'm

1397
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: going to start by asking John about Rashad Penny, who

1398
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: was on the injury report. I'm not altogether concerned until

1399
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: Penny just isn't playing or isn't on the field. Obviously,

1400
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: we'll get more information from Peak Harroll tomorrow. But do

1401
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: you see an opportunity for Penny in this game against

1402
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: New Orleans? Yeah? I do. Actually, I see an opportunity

1403
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: for Penny against anybody the way that he's running. Man,

1404
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: and the guy who probably knows all about that just

1405
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: sat down John Boyle, John Boyle Seahawks dot Com and

1406
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: joining us right now. John, we were just talking about

1407
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny. I know that he was either limited or

1408
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: miss practice. How's he doing? I don't know yexemn practice today,

1409
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: but I will say it's not a hard and fast role.

1410
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: But it's pretty rare that you'll see a player be

1411
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: put at the podium on Wednesday to talk to the

1412
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: media if there's good point, real injury concern there. So

1413
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he was just a little you know,

1414
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: typical banged up a little bit, and so I would

1415
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: be willing to bet we see him probably out there

1416
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: practicing today. I'm not too worried about yet. I mean,

1417
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see on front of But

1418
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: again I don't I don't think if there's a real

1419
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: concern there, they make him available to the media. It's

1420
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: a good point. That's an insider veteran move, right the cues.

1421
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: You've talked to Penny, Yeah, what's different? I mean, it's

1422
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: so it's so interesting that it's his fifth year where

1423
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: you feel like he's just kind of getting going assistently.

1424
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: What do you've noticed different about him? I mean, a

1425
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: lot of I think is his health and opportunity. We

1426
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: saw so much his first few years in the league.

1427
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: He was banged up. He finally got going, you remember

1428
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen then he tears his acl thousand long

1429
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: road back. There's kind of those nagging injuries that come

1430
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: with it. And then you know, just guys ahead of him,

1431
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: Chris Carson was obviously doing great, and then they had

1432
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, Alex Collins was doing well for a while

1433
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: last he so it was finally just him getting that

1434
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: chance to get going, because I mean we saw it

1435
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: last week was a great example. He's one of those

1436
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: running backs and there's a lot of good ones like this.

1437
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: You give him time and that's when they get going,

1438
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: they get the fuel for the game and they start breaking.

1439
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he was five carries for eight yards in

1440
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: the first half. So if you're mixing him in there

1441
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: as a change of pace guy, and that's all the

1442
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: work he's getting, it might not look like much, but

1443
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: you keep feeding him, keep feeding him. He hits his

1444
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: hole and once he gets in the open field, he's

1445
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: as good as they get. I mean, I looked this

1446
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: up the other day. He's got five touchdown runs a

1447
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: thirty or more ars since last year. Nobody else has

1448
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: more in two so I mean what he's doing is

1449
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: just that's that's incredibly rare in the NFL. Yeah, that's okay, No, No,

1450
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: it was like that. It was like when Michael Scott

1451
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: on the Office has a quote and then signs off.

1452
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: It was it was bump found a stat that was

1453
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: found by John Boyle and always put your name on it,

1454
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: as if Boyle found a ridiculous stat like in one Okay, side,

1455
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: No One how do you how do you find stuff

1456
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: like that? Well, that you can just do on Pro

1457
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: Football Reference has a subscription paid subscription side called stat head,

1458
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: and you can sort all sorts of things, so you

1459
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: can just look up literally runs every run of third touchdown,

1460
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: run of thirty plus yards, and then you can sort

1461
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: by a player and all right, you still gotta get

1462
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: a little creative though. You can get the subscription, but

1463
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 1: you gotta have the uh the uh. I don't insights

1464
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 1: really think about that, but um, I want to ask you,

1465
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: how what's the vibe of the defense right now? Because

1466
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: you know, we're in here in the morning and they're

1467
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: playing their music out. Everyone's getting amped up for the day.

1468
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: And as a player, I would think like, yes, we

1469
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: gave a five hundred and twenty yards, but we gotta

1470
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: he said, and try to come back positive. Is that

1471
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: what they do? Or do you feel like some guys

1472
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: are taking it to heart and holding their heads down.

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01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: I don't think I mean they're taking it to heart,

1474
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: but I think they're holding the heads down. I think

1475
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: they're looking at I was like, look, they all know

1476
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: they need to get better. Like it hasn't been very

1477
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: good obviously the last couple of weeks, especially way too

1478
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: many yards, way too many big plays. But I think

1479
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: they're looking at what's leading to it and they see

1480
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: it as stuff that can get fixed. It's not that

1481
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: they're just getting physically dominated down after down, and just

1482
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of in fear of talents, they're screwing things

1483
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: up and missing tackles or missing assignments. Is just again

1484
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 1: things they think will get fixed. It's just a question

1485
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: how soon, because look, if it takes you nine ten

1486
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: weeks to get that fixed, you might lose a few

1487
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: more games you shouldn't have. You get it cleaned up quickly.

1488
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: I think this team can be really good. Do you

1489
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: think New Orleans presents an opportunity for the defense this week?

1490
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see. I would have said that last

1491
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: week when you look at all the guys the lines

1492
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: were missing. You'd look at, okay, the lines are missing,

1493
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, this guy. It's a good, get

1494
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 1: right game. And it looked for a couple of series

1495
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: like it might be, and then it all got away

1496
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: from So yeah, the Saints, they might not have James

1497
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: the amount of have Michael, but they're gonna have Alvin Kamara,

1498
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: who has just killed the Seahawks as a receiver more

1499
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: than anything the last couple times they've met. So I'm

1500
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: not gonna look at any opponents like this is a

1501
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: good chance to get right. But yeah, I mean, they

1502
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: whoever it is, they just gotta again clean up some

1503
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: of those big issues. It's okay to give up a

1504
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: twenty yard pass, don't miss the tackle. Let it become eighty.

1505
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it really comes down to. Got

1506
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: some some babies being born, Yeah, how about that? Yeah? Yeah,

1507
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: Jason Myers had his wife had a baby over the weekend,

1508
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 1: and then Austin blythe him and his wife had their baby.

1509
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: We just talked to him in the locker room actually,

1510
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: So he went from Detroit to Iowa for the birth

1511
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: of the child. So that's why he was away. He's

1512
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: back now with the team, but spent a couple of

1513
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: days back home in Iowa after the game that this

1514
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: Seahawks let him leave the team Sunday after the game

1515
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: go home for that. When Jason Myers was it on

1516
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: game day or the day it's I mean, the way

1517
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll described I haven't talked to jasonet the way

1518
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll described it, I think it happened like during

1519
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: the game sound, because wasn't it like upon ending the game?

1520
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: Jason Myers found out, like I think so, I think

1521
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: it literally came like towards the end of the game

1522
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: his second daughter. So I asked, hey, I've been there.

1523
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm out gun times three. I was gonna say, you

1524
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: got you have three three three daughters? Yeah, man, you guys,

1525
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Boys. I asked Rabel this question

1526
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: just because I think it's fascinating because Geno's is playing

1527
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: at like a pro Bowl level right now. Yeah, and

1528
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: uh he said he can play better? Yeah, what can

1529
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: he do? Boiled? That's fun. He was just asked about

1530
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: that when he was meeting with the media earlier, and

1531
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: he I mean, he just kind of said everything he said.

1532
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: You know, he goes, I feel like I missed six

1533
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: to twer Walcket. There's that deepall in the early game,

1534
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: early in the game that he just overthrew by a step.

1535
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: So you know, he's he's gonna look at his game

1536
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: and say, you know, as good as this was, I

1537
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: could have made the throw better. My footwork could have

1538
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: been better. So but I mean, yeah, you're right, it's

1539
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine asking for more for that from

1540
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: that guy right now. I mean, statistically, by just about

1541
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: any measure, he's been an elite, top you know, upper

1542
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: echelon quarterback this year. Yeah, if you wanted to be

1543
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: a real jerk, you could compare his numbers to Russia.

1544
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: I would never ever, Well, the one thing, I mean,

1545
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: he's taken half as many sacks. Yeah, and then his

1546
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: quarterback rating is one hundred and eight versus ninety one.

1547
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, it's just and we keep asking

1548
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: the players like did you see this from Gino and

1549
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, we knew, and I'm like, no,

1550
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: you didn't. Come on, man, this is like I think,

1551
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's fair to say they knew

1552
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: he could be good, Like they've seen enough in practice

1553
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: from him, and in glimpses last year when he took

1554
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: over that they had comments he'd get the job done.

1555
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think you can honestly, and not

1556
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: because of Gino sith, but just no quarterback complete seventy

1557
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: eight percent. So yeah, I mean it's hard to say

1558
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: anyone was predicting quite this level of production, but there

1559
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: was a lot of confidence in him. Based on what

1560
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: they'd seen in the last few years from him. Yeah,

1561
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: and there was the stat and I don't know if

1562
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: this came from you. I know O'Connell had it on

1563
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: our notes that um that it's since nineteen fifty he

1564
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: joins Tom Brady and Derek Carr in the first four

1565
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: games complete over seventy percent since nineteen fifty. Yeah, I mean,

1566
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: it's just it's out of this world. Yeah. Well, and

1567
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: no one's had a hire four game start completion percentage

1568
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: than him. If you take it up to two hundred

1569
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: and twenty five completions, I think, yeah. So yeah, that

1570
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: seventy ten percent he's ad is the highest seaybody he's done.

1571
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: So all right, pretty well, Uh, do you have one

1572
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: more question? I'm gonna do. Yeah. Yeah. Woman pointed out

1573
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: that there's only been two in completions that have tied

1574
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: end so far. And I'm looking at Uncle Will, he's

1575
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: perfect twelve or twelve, and then Kobe Parkinson has a

1576
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: couple that he missed. But we still have not seen

1577
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: no offense like he scored a touchdown last week. But

1578
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't think we've seen what no offen can bring

1579
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: to this offense yet. Yeah, no, I think you look

1580
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: at coming to this season, he looked at maybe you'd

1581
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: think he's the biggest pass catching threat, and you know

1582
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: they'll they'll get him going in time. But I think

1583
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: that if anything, that bodes wealth of the office that

1584
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 1: they're getting that much out of the other two guys

1585
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: and haven't even really unlocked everything from him yet. I

1586
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: know that he had like a he had a fifteen

1587
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: yard completion that got nullified. Yeah, but a penalty. We're

1588
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: talked about his button block on the Kobe park Parkinson

1589
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: and you kind of shield it off the boxing out.

1590
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: I love it. I love seeing the tight ends get

1591
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: the ball. Um. We have about two minutes left here

1592
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 1: to run through some some keys. Let's just keep it simple.

1593
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: Key to will win against the same up with a

1594
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: new form of it is my favor. Well, okay, I

1595
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: initially debated, being like, okay, forget keys to a win.

1596
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about keys to the defense in

1597
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: week five. But here's I'll leave one rule. If you

1598
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: say defense plays well, you you gotta tell me what

1599
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: you mean. You gotta tell me what you want to

1600
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: see from the defense. That is my only rule. So

1601
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: John get Us started with it defense plays, Well, it's

1602
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: a big places. We talked about this already, but just

1603
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: get those out of your game. Don't give up. You know,

1604
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: they define the explosives a sixteen yard past twelve yard run.

1605
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: Let's keep it under like eight of those. That's not

1606
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: even like a crazy number. But in recent games and

1607
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: and maybe even limit, just worry about the even bigger

1608
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: plays if you give up the yard. Yeah, just don't

1609
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: give up those huge plays eighty one and one and

1610
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: all and the thing, all those have chances to be

1611
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: a lot shorter. That's that's what kills you. Yeah, if

1612
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: the guy just gets wide open and you throw a

1613
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: perfect bomb, it is what it is. But it's when

1614
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,879
Speaker 1: guys are missing tackles, it's tough. Take question that'll that'll

1615
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: turn things around. And yeah, they are giving the ball

1616
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: up at a ridiculous rate. Eleven giveaways for the New

1617
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, so they're minus seven and turnover ratio dead last. Defense,

1618
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: take big plays. And you know what we saw it

1619
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: from our two rookies. We did um Kobe Bryant and

1620
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: then and tariqu Will and that they're comfortable enough now

1621
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: to start jumping routes and making plays and punching out

1622
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: all that I couldn't have special teams. Don't fumble on punt,

1623
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: don't snap hook a field goal, and then do not

1624
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: fall for a fake punt. All right, easy rules. That's five.

1625
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: This has been the huddle. Don't go anywhere.