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Speaker 1: to The Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Mellman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am joined as I am every episode by my bff,

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Speaker 1: my companion, my compadre professional better Simon Hunter. Dude, we

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Speaker 1: are digging in on your favorite topic today. And I

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Speaker 1: don't just mean betting on the NFL. Yeah, we're a

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Speaker 1: bother to talk about my favorite team chat. What a

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Speaker 1: magical weekend for not just me, also for Chicago. Chad's

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Speaker 1: bears want to know at the top of the NFC North, Wow,

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Speaker 1: how's the field? Chad want to know in the division

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Speaker 1: that many said you guys had no chance in, but

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Speaker 1: here you sit after week one, only only team undefeated.

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Speaker 1: And listen, we beat the Kansas City Chiefs unbelieva. It's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a huge, huge weekend for us. We're gonna savor it.

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Speaker 1: We've got some highlights we're gonna own. It could be

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Speaker 1: only go down from here. You're right, We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about your favorite team with with a guy who he

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Speaker 1: symbolizes the NFC East. We have been going through division

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Speaker 1: by division, the betting odds to win each division, our

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Speaker 1: favorite bets for each division. Today's guest was an All

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Speaker 1: Conference offensive lineman at Princeton, but for enjoying a seven

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Speaker 1: year career in the NFL. Today's radio host. He's a

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Speaker 1: podcast mobil. He's a game analyst for your Philadelphia Eagles. Simon,

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Speaker 1: He's become, according to Matt Mitchell, one of the most

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Speaker 1: refreshing voices and most popular ex athletes in sports media.

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Speaker 1: You can hear him every week. I'm one of his

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Speaker 1: several podcasts, including the sports betting show Even Money with Physick,

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Speaker 1: the World Famix Famous Physik, two time veteran of the

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Speaker 1: NFC East, Mr Ross Tucker, what's going on, brother? Good

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Speaker 1: to have you. What's up, dudes? Yeah, you guys have

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Speaker 1: both been on Even Money. I think Simon's on a

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Speaker 1: your show. And yes, So my first two teams were

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Speaker 1: now one of my claims to fame. Bruce Smith had

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Speaker 1: I do like they're under. They feel like a tenant seven,

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Speaker 1: I just don't like him at this price. I would

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. So looking at this division at every

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Speaker 1: position I look at, the Eagles is the best in

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Speaker 1: this division every position except quarterback. Right. I still give

429
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Speaker 1: that the deck because Doc has a proven track record.

430
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Speaker 1: But we just saw Hurts and every one preseason game

431
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: he went six or six driving down the field and

432
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: never threw the ball to a J. Brown on the

433
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: sport and they scored a touchdown. That's what I wanted

434
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: to see from Hurt. So to me, I was already

435
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: hyped about the Eagles. I took them up plus two hundred.

436
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: That s a reason I'll tell people not to bet

437
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: them divisionally. Right now they're at plus one seventy. Me

438
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: and chat, we're gonna talk about Week one. We we

439
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: like the lines. That's what you're looking for right at

440
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: this point. You're looking for. If the Eagles could drop

441
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: Week one to the lines, bam, you get huge value

442
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: on betting them divisionally. You bet get huge value on

443
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: Hurts m v P. That's when you want to take

444
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Speaker 1: the Eagles. You don't want to bet them now the

445
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: middle of the summer, just because the fans have betted

446
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: up right, it's it's always down to plus one seventy.

447
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Now you've already missed the value. I'd hold off on that.

448
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: If you still like the over, I'd take it. It's

449
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: a nine and a half. It's still a good number.

450
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: But again you missed the value. It was that nine

451
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: at one point. So to me, I liked you over.

452
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: I like them divisionally. I just don't hate on waiting

453
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: down if you want better odds. I love Hey. You

454
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: were talking about Howie Roseman, the Eagles GM, who's been

455
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: there forever. Uh, and since he's come back, has started

456
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: to rebuild this roster and this is the make or

457
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: break for Jalen Hurts. Uh. You mentioned Davis that obviously

458
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: everyone has seen that clip of him just bull rushing

459
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: the guy on the other side of the line. What

460
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: I loved about that, though, was in the press conference

461
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: aster after he was asked about it, and he didn't

462
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: play it up at all. He was like, look, it's

463
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. There are plays where

464
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Speaker 1: I get bull rushed. There are places where other people

465
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: get bull rushed. People happen to see that one thing

466
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: they're making a big deal about it. Everybody. It happens

467
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: to everybody on this team. He was actually so humble

468
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: about it. Obviously he's going to be the kind of

469
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Speaker 1: guy who people will rally around as a teammate. You know, Ross,

470
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Speaker 1: you're inside the organization, Well, can you tell us, Well,

471
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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised by the number uh in terms

472
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Speaker 1: of the wind total when you just consider it. Last year,

473
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: the owner came out and said it was a transition year.

474
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Speaker 1: They had a first year head coach in Nick Sirian.

475
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Speaker 1: They had a first year starting quarterback and Jalen Hurts.

476
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Speaker 1: They went nine and seven in the sixteen games they

477
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: tried to win, including seven and two down the stretch.

478
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: They didn't play any of their starters in the Week

479
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: eight teen contest against the Cowboys. So now you have

480
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Speaker 1: a second year head coach and a second year quarterback

481
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Speaker 1: in Jalen Hurts. He's never had the same offensive coach

482
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: two years in a row. You go back to Alabama, Oklahoma, NFL,

483
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: new coordinator, new play caller every year, so he finally

484
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: can take a higher level. Of course, he finally isn't

485
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: learning a new offense right now. Then they had a j.

486
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: Brown who's the top five wide receiver in the NFL

487
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: and a perfect fit for what they do on the

488
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. Get Isaac say, I'm all

489
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: back at right guard, who's a very solid player. And

490
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: then defensively they added a lot of Hassan Reddick has

491
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: twenty three and a half sacks the last two years.

492
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, who Simon mentioned, looked real good in the

493
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Speaker 1: preseason game the other night. So did both their new linebackers,

494
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: Kaisier White and the Kobe Them both made play. Look,

495
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: don't ask me, just go watch the tape forget. Just

496
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: go watch the game Friday night. Is it a huge

497
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: sample size? No, but I'd rather them look good than

498
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: bad in that sample size. And then they added, uh, Bradberry.

499
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Think at James Bradberry. This is the best cornerback trio

500
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: the Eagles have had since like early to talent like

501
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: Bobby Taylor, Troy Vincent. Maybe it's hard to imagine them

502
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: not winning at least ten or eleven games. It really is,

503
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: like ten or eleven is so much more likely then

504
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: eight or nine. I just I don't And the schedule

505
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: is still not that hard. I don't see how you

506
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: don't take the over. I've been saying it for a while.

507
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: With the Eagles, I think they are pretty much on

508
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: par with the Cowboys in terms of who wins this division.

509
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: They should have the same division winning odds. They should

510
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: have that same season win total number. In my mind,

511
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned to Kobe Dean that guy was just blowing

512
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: shipped up in that first game against the Jets. He's

513
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: going to be one of those guys where a year

514
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: from now people are like, how did we let him slip?

515
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: Last question about the Eagles because you mentioned Sirianni. Nick Sirianni,

516
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: I think when the year began last year, we all

517
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: had a lot of questions about him, and this was

518
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: a team that consistently got better and better, especially like

519
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: you could count on them in the first half. They

520
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: were a team that was going to perform in the

521
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: first half, and you're gonna want to bet on them

522
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: in the first half. Ross, what have you seen of Sirianni?

523
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: How did he get better over the year. I think

524
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: they just realized it took him a while to figure

525
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: out who they were and what they are, and what

526
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: they are is the best old line in the NFL,

527
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: and they're a running team. What's interesting is they came

528
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: out in the preseason and through the ball every play

529
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: because I think they kind of look at it like, well,

530
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: we know we can run the ball. Where we want

531
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: to get better is throwing the ball. So that's what

532
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: they worked on on their first drive, and Hurts was

533
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: six for six eight yard. They overcame two penalties to

534
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: score a touchdown against the Jet starters. But I do

535
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: think that it was just a matter of them figuring

536
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: out what the strength and weaknesses of this team were really,

537
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: both sides of all, because the defense is better down

538
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 1: the stretch, the office better on the stretch. Also, their

539
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: schedule got easier, Like their schedule is definitely easier down

540
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: the stretch than it was earlier in the season playing

541
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and all these other teams, Niners, whatever. But

542
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: they figured out who they were. I am so curious

543
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: see how they come out of the gates this year

544
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: and to see if they pick up where they left

545
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: off or if they try to do new things and

546
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: maybe they try to throw the ball more, maybe it

547
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: doesn't work. We'll find out pretty early because at the

548
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: Troit game, Simon mentioned that's a scary game that the

549
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Lions have a lot of momentum, Like Lions are feel

550
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: good story. The Lions don't feel like a three win team,

551
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, easy win for the Eagles at all in

552
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: that game. Gimme Lions plus four give lines on the

553
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: money line. Washington what is their nickname now? Washington Commanders

554
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: so lame plus five hundred to win the division win

555
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: total eight and a half. I don't know. Like they're

556
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: getting healthier on the defense, which I think is why

557
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: people were so excited about him last year. I'm so

558
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: out on Carson Wentz. I love Ron Rivera. They've already

559
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: fired their defensive their linebacker cut was, their defensive coordinators,

560
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: their defensive line coach, Sam Mills. Coach Sam Mills the third,

561
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: which is weird because I saw him two days earlier

562
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: at his dad's Hall of Fame thing, and Canda curious

563
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: what happened there. And so I don't know, Simon, there's

564
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: no way we look at the Commanders as a long

565
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: shot to win the division. What do you think? They're

566
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: total no. And even all the other pros I've talked to,

567
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: like met up with a bunch of guys this past weekend,

568
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: and they see they're making all their beds. We're talking

569
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: about futures single. I mean, a bunch of assholes out there,

570
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: bet the Giants. No one's been Washington, right. It's just

571
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: funny where every year guys will talk up Washington usually

572
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: like I was one of those guys last year. It's

573
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: like a great defense made a playoffs without a quarterback

574
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: last year, Like they should be better with Fitzpatrick. He

575
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: went down Week one and we saw it played out.

576
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: They just weren't that good of a team. Again. I

577
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I want to believe in Carson, but it's all mental

578
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: at at this point with him. Like I watched that

579
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: preseason game. He just had a couple of passes where

580
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: it's like the kid doesn't get his feet set. It's

581
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: just he does all these he does all these things

582
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: that he regressed and all these different aspects of being

583
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback position. So I'm down on them. I bet

584
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: they're under. I didn't bet big on it, right, it's

585
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: not one of my bigger bets I had. Bet they're under.

586
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: I haven't touched anything for them divisionally, Um kind of

587
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: Benna waiting see approach to Washington, but just just don't

588
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: have the confidence and a lot of bad JUGI with

589
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: this team right now, um, from top to bottom, from

590
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: ownership to the players on the field, I just don't

591
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: don't like the vibe of this Washington team. It's yeah

592
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: to me, like you mentioned to the Giants, and I

593
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: do want to get to them because I think they're

594
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: the more interesting team of the remaining two. Uh. When

595
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: you see a situation like Carson wentz Ross who got

596
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 1: drumbeat out of Philly, Uh, was run out of Indie

597
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: with the owner basically saying this was a bad experiment.

598
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Now he goes to Washington, a reclamation project all the

599
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: way around. Do players rally around something like that? How

600
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: can he get that team to get behind him. Get

601
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: off to a good start. Really important he gets off

602
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: to a good start, because I'm sure they want him

603
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: to be the guy, but they know what happened the

604
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: last two stops. If he gets off to a good

605
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: starts like, Okay, here's the guy that could have an

606
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: m VP in he's good. Don't know what happened before,

607
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: but he's good. Gets off to a bad start, it

608
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: could get real ugly, like really like Sam Howe ugly.

609
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Maybe try Sam Howe for the Rookie of the Year.

610
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: If he if if Wentz things up the joint, Sam

611
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Howell comes in. I will say this, John dots in

612
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: their first round pick. I watched a lot of penalte football.

613
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: He's good. I mean there, you know, Curtis, Samuel, Terry McLaurin,

614
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: John Dotson. Wentz can't say he doesn't have weapons. That

615
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: was one of the arguments they said about last year

616
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: in Indie. He can't say that he has He has

617
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: some legit receivers there. I would take the under Simon

618
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: the Giants. This is an interesting team. I mean, Daniel

619
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: Jones has been terrible in the preseason, truly awful. Um,

620
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: but it's an interesting team. Nonethe last a lot of

621
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: conversations around Sequon Barkley and his comeback from the a

622
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: c L in year two looking relatively good. You just

623
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: said wise guys are starting to hit the Giants. What

624
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: is the logic there? The fools they just get sucked

625
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: in every year. They just every year. They're just like

626
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones will improve. The kids. Got the body type,

627
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: he's got the brains. We've seen him have these moments

628
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: of greatness and I just always say him, this kid.

629
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: As soon as the lights get turned on again, he

630
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: could have an amazing first or second quarter. You know

631
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: that strip sack, fumble has come, you know that interceptions coming.

632
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: It's just this kid is what he is, right Like

633
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL, they kind of just throw you in

634
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: the deep end and see if you can swim, and

635
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: if you can't swim, that's it. Like they just it's

636
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: very rare that these these guys eventually figure it out,

637
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: because no one really has the leash to figure it out.

638
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I mean he's had the leash here, Like

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Speaker 1: this is crazy. I really can't believe that this kids

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Speaker 1: had all these opportunities and I just don't see it,

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Speaker 1: like I get it. They brought in the new O C.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just it doesn't matter if you bring

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Speaker 1: a new head coach, if the if the player doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the mental makeup, it doesn't matter. So to me

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Speaker 1: looking at this Giants team, I literally I had guys

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Speaker 1: all weekend talking to me about the Giants team. I

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Speaker 1: can't stand him, even when I look on paper, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's fun. They have like some talent. They haven't drafted

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Speaker 1: that great, Like sure they've signed players and try to

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Speaker 1: make moves and see Kwon Barkley might look amazing, but

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Speaker 1: to me, I just can't do it. I'm on their

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Speaker 1: under seven a half wins. I'll take it all the

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Speaker 1: way down to minus one five, minus one forty. I

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Speaker 1: just it's a great number. As long as he's above seven,

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Speaker 1: you're getting a really good value on a team that

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fighting for the fourth third spot in

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Speaker 1: this division. So yeah, Like if you watch the other night,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones are getting smashed. The old line is still

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Speaker 1: an issue. Shane Lemu got hurt. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: bad it is. But the one thing I always say

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Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones two things. One is the old line

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Speaker 1: has been terrible the whole time he's been there. Terrible,

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Speaker 1: which is not good. And then number two, you know

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Speaker 1: what's crazy about him, Chad. He's athletic, he has a

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Speaker 1: good arm, he's smart, he's accurate. He's a great kid.

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Speaker 1: He's not a great quarterback, Like like he checks every

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Speaker 1: box except for making the plays in the games when

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Speaker 1: they need to be made. Um, Look, he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: a great opportunity this year or with Brian Dable and

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Speaker 1: Mike Kafka. He seems like such a nice kid. I

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Speaker 1: kind of hope it works out for him. The only

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Speaker 1: saving grace I have for the Giants, and I think

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Speaker 1: that this is the right number. I'm I I think

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Speaker 1: I have some faith in Dable that I feel like

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Speaker 1: they are a seven or eight win team. Kind of

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Speaker 1: almost feel better about them than I do about Washington.

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Speaker 1: They're both those teams are seven or eight win teams

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Speaker 1: for me, which is why I like the under for

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Speaker 1: Washington and why the Giants. I think the number is

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Speaker 1: about right. If I had to, I probably take the under,

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Speaker 1: but it's the it's the number I feel the I

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Speaker 1: have the least amount of conviction for in the NFC

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Speaker 1: East is the Giants seven and a half. Well, it

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Speaker 1: is interesting, like if you're going to compare those two teams. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Simon just said a lot of betters are looking at

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Speaker 1: the Giants over seven and a half as a smarter

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Speaker 1: play or a trendier play than the Commanders. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: they're total over eight and a half. Uh, thinking that

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Speaker 1: the Giants have a better shot if there were two

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Speaker 1: headhead matchups between these two teams, which there would be

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Speaker 1: Giants likely to win both of those games. Uh. The

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Speaker 1: last question I have for your Roscoe. I know you

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Speaker 1: gotta get going. Uh. You get a quarterback like Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones has got everything, but he can't be a great

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Speaker 1: quarterback as an offensive lineman. What does that do to

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Speaker 1: your mindset every time you're dropping into past protection. I

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Speaker 1: had a lot of different quarterbacks. Here's how I would

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Speaker 1: describe it. When I played in New England. We knew

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Speaker 1: we were gonna win because we had Tom Brady. So

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Speaker 1: it's fourth quarter of a game, too close game. We

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Speaker 1: knew we were gonna win. Now, a couple of times

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Speaker 1: we didn't. But in the minds it was we knew

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Speaker 1: we were gonna win when I had a good quarterback

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Speaker 1: like Bled, so we thought we were gonna win, like

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Speaker 1: we were like, we got led so too minute drill,

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Speaker 1: he's got this, We're gonna win. When you have a

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Speaker 1: guy like Daniel Jones, those guys are all still just

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Speaker 1: kind of hoping, you know, they're hoping this guy can

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Speaker 1: pull it off. They don't know he's gonna pull it off.

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Speaker 1: They're not even necessarily confident he's gonna get it done.

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Speaker 1: They're hoping. It's a big difference that that mindset. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much of that's conscious how much of

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Speaker 1: that subconscious debate. It's one reason why I thought Bucks

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Speaker 1: would be so good when Brady went down there, I

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Speaker 1: thought the Patriots take a step back because all the

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Speaker 1: guys know in New England we don't have Brady anymore,

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Speaker 1: and all the guys in Tampa, no matter what the

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Speaker 1: score is, no matter what the situation is, when we

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Speaker 1: got Brady, we're gonna win. That. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: value in that knowing, thinking, hoping. That is a great

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Speaker 1: way to describe the descending ladder when you are playing

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Speaker 1: in the NFL and when you are betting in the NFL.

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