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Speaker 2: I love all my children equally, I.

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Speaker 2: Good day swirl.

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Speaker 3: Then welcome to the No Dunk's NBA Trade Deadline Special.

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Speaker 3: It's Thursday afternoon on March twenty fifth, and we're here

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Speaker 3: to break down all of today's trades except for the

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Speaker 2: You're crazy to think her to that one.

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Speaker 1: Tatmellis here we go. I want to make her a

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Speaker 1: good show. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: We got my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Bolls

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Speaker 3: are back, bowls are maybe. We got the international man

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Speaker 3: last but not least, making the magic happen here on

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Speaker 3: a Thursday afternoon, and it's jd.

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Speaker 2: How aout there he is and here we are.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the stream team joining us live right

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Speaker 3: now on YouTube. Sorry we kept a few of you waiting.

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Speaker 3: Had to just like push it back a little bit

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Speaker 3: as these trades continue to roll in. I don't even

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Speaker 3: know who JJ Redditt got traded for yet find out

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Speaker 3: during the show.

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Speaker 3: us tonight for an NBA happy hour. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: what we're calling basically a trade deadline hangover special, sort

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Speaker 3: of the Blazer's Heat game.

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Speaker 2: So join us for that.

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Speaker 3: And finally, immaculate items available for sale at No dunks

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Speaker 3: dot com. Okay trades, trade grades. We'll talk about a

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Speaker 3: lot of the deals stay. We had a ton in

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Speaker 3: news task and they go hand in hand. I think

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Speaker 3: Kyle Lowry is staying put in Toronto, Big Traded. This

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Speaker 3: As he's walking off the last night, everybody's saying good bye.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy he's still there. And we'll get into that.

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Speaker 3: But then the Heat who were reportedly you know, I

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Speaker 2: In the end, So the Heat go.

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Speaker 3: They flip it around and go get Victor Oladipo and

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Speaker 3: The Lowry is still on the raptors right now.

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Speaker 1: Everybody thinks pat Riley is the toughest deal maker. Messire

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Speaker 3: Then we got the drop, so we'll do sort of

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Speaker 2: Trey's Bulls.

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Speaker 3: Magic in return get Wendell Carter Junior, Otto Porter Junior,

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Speaker 1: A lot of.

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Speaker 3: Gary's on the move today too, and then a couple picks.

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Speaker 3: Trey have at it. You got your Bulls jersey and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think? You were pumped on Twitter?

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Speaker 3: So you're expect this move? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: it's all three?

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Speaker 5: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: The Bulls did exactly what I wanted. They went out

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Speaker 2: They're acting like a major market and it needed to happen. Ugly,

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Speaker 2: They cashed in the juicy auto porter trade chip. Everybodys

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Speaker 2: Nick Vucovic, an All star in his prime, to make

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Speaker 2: to be perfect. The Bulls have needed a reliable second

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Speaker 2: score this season. Vucevic is that twenty four and twelve

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Speaker 2: have needed a center. They didn't get a stopper, but

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Speaker 2: finally tipped his hand. He hadn't done much. He had

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Speaker 2: You got two All stars in their primes, Patrick Williams

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Speaker 2: I offered you guys spots on the Bulls wagon. Earlier

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Speaker 2: more All Stars in the Eastern Conference. Nobody else in

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Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference improved more today. Today is a great

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Speaker 2: Dan now and for the future. The Bulls at the

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have a home court advantage playoff series. I

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Speaker 5: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: Well, listen that the Bulls obviously get the best player

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Speaker 4: you're obviously, if you're Chicago and the Bulls do make

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Speaker 4: very good this season on a team that only has

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Speaker 5: They've given up some of their.

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Speaker 4: try to win now. Vutrevich should improve them. Can he

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Speaker 4: But I think if you are Chicago, and I think

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Speaker 4: if you face potentially the Bucks or the Nets in

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Speaker 4: that could represent some sort of progress because the Bulls

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Speaker 1: Hell, he's just compare Daniel Tice to nikol ivucevicly well, he.

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Speaker 4: Spreads the floor, he shoots as you know, he can

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Speaker 5: That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: We thought lowry market, it might be the bulls player

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Speaker 3: I will say, Vouch is on a pretty reasonable contract

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Speaker 3: the lost like like Lee pointed out, But twenty four

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Speaker 2: The next one's not brutal. But what do you think?

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Speaker 1: I love my Vouch? You know he is a thirty

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Speaker 1: they're going to give both Carter Junior and Auto Porter

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Speaker 1: excited to see Vouch and Zach Levine in fourth quarters

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the magic Man. They just they really ripped down

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Speaker 1: But what do you think ye for sure that Denver

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Speaker 1: all they're getting. Gary Harris Hampton, who hasn't you know,

435
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 1: he's a rook but at a future first round pick,

436
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would assume you could get more

437
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,399
Speaker 1: for Aaron Gordon, but I guess that's the way she

438
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 1: rolls right now. That's that's what the Nuggets get, and

439
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 1: that's what the magic for Aaron Gordon, and the Nuggets

440
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 1: are just rolling with it. It is exciting for them

441
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 1: to be pairrying Jokic porter with Jamal Murray, and I

442
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 1: am excited to see how that all works out Aaron Gordon.

443
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 1: For him going to another franchise where he isn't the

444
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,879
Speaker 1: star and to be, you know, a little bit further

445
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 1: down in the pecking order. I think that would will

446
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,679
Speaker 1: work out for him really really well. He doesn't have

447
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: to be a scorer on that team, and hopefully just

448
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 1: being around Jokic and Jamal Murray, he kind of hey

449
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 1: settles into that role really well. But it is confusing

450
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: skeet side, Like, I know this was sort of the package,

451
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 1: but this is confusing to me from the magic side.

452
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 1: I know they get three first round picks when all

453
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Speaker 1: is said and done, but do they have a guy

454
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Speaker 1: you know from this Gary Harris, Wendell Carter Junior auto

455
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Speaker 1: porter RJ. Hampton quadrant or you know, four guys here

456
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: that is going to be part of their future for

457
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 1: a long time. I think the best part of their

458
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 1: day was really Terrence Ross and his tweet because the

459
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Speaker 1: Magic have traded all their players now, parents Ross tweets,

460
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm the captain now, that's that is the best get me,

461
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm the captain.

462
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 5: Now.

463
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Speaker 1: That's the best tweet of the day, no doubt. And

464
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just a little puzzled, like those picks

465
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Speaker 1: aren't going to be great for Orlando.

466
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Speaker 3: No, I can't even believe the bulls both of them

467
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 3: are even protected.

468
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 2: They couldn't even.

469
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Speaker 3: Get one of them like unprotected, like the second one.

470
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Speaker 3: So that was well done by Chicago. I hear what

471
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Speaker 3: you're saying. I think they're hoping, like RJ. Hampton turns

472
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Speaker 3: into something special and Trey and I are high on him,

473
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Speaker 3: so maybe he gets the opportunity there.

474
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Speaker 2: And Carter Junior, yeah, to be a keeper. Yeah, most

475
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Speaker 2: Balls fans would have preferred to trade Lowry Markinen over

476
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Speaker 2: Wendell Carter Junior, even throwing out the contract status with

477
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Speaker 2: Marking and being a restricted free agent summertime. Wendell Carter Junior,

478
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: you know, he was pitched as the next Al Horford,

479
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: a ball mover who talks on defense and can kind

480
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Speaker 2: of guard guys from the perimeter to the rim. He's

481
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: just been really struggling with the lack of confidence playing

482
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 2: alongside the Bulls, and it started last season with Jim

483
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: Boyle and what's the name with Wendell Carter Junior. Would

484
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Speaker 2: catch the ball at the top of the key. The

485
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 2: guy wouldn't even look at the basket. There was nobody

486
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Speaker 2: around him. He's just kind of fallen off a little

487
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Speaker 2: bit as an offensive player, but he's talented and he

488
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Speaker 2: seems like he's going to be a good defender. I

489
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Speaker 2: know he's a humongous recruit in high school. I think

490
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Speaker 2: he was in the Zion class. He obviously got overshadowed there,

491
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Speaker 2: but I do think that Wendell Carter Junior, if he's

492
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Speaker 2: allowed to play through his mistakes, if he's allowed to

493
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Speaker 2: just get some confidence back, he can be a keeper

494
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Speaker 2: for the Magic. I also think R. J. Hampton it's

495
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Speaker 2: worth rolling the dice on him. You never know what's

496
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Speaker 2: going to pan out, and maybe Gary Harris is able

497
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Speaker 2: to play his way into a little bit better trade

498
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Speaker 2: value here in the future, then he can swing him

499
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Speaker 2: for another pick or another player who helps out sometime

500
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Speaker 2: down the line.

501
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Speaker 3: Lee, what do you think of the Nuggets title chances

502
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 3: adding Aaron Gordon and what they had to give up.

503
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: We thought maybe it would be Will Barton in the

504
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 3: end of Garry Harris. We thought maybe ball ball would

505
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 3: have to be in the Bicks in the end, you know,

506
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: it's just RJ. Hampton and it's really only it's the

507
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Speaker 3: one pick. What did I say in twenty five there?

508
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Speaker 3: So what do you think of the Nuggets getting Aaron Gordon.

509
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Speaker 4: I think the potential is that they very much improve

510
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 4: with Aaron Gordon if he is the Gordon that we

511
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 4: know he can be. If he's not, then you know

512
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Speaker 4: they've given up Gary Harris, who wasn't a part of

513
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Speaker 4: their team. They've given up RG Hampton who could have

514
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Speaker 4: had a future there. But it's worth the risk, and

515
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: that future first round pick is down the line far

516
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Speaker 4: enough that it's not really going to affect them for now.

517
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Speaker 5: So when you are the Nuggets, you've got to make

518
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Speaker 5: these sort of deals.

519
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Speaker 4: And I think that Aaron Gordon, again athletically on the

520
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 4: defensive end, he fits what they like to do.

521
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Speaker 5: And that's get out and run.

522
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Speaker 4: You know he's going to be able to cause some turnovers,

523
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: run down the other end and dunk the ball. That's

524
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Speaker 4: all he needs to do, and hit those threes when

525
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Speaker 4: he's open. If he can do that, then the Nuggets

526
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Speaker 4: have got a really good deal here. If he's the

527
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 4: sort of guy, though, who pouts a little bit, can't

528
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: find his form, that SHOT's not falling, and he gets

529
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 4: a bit sloppy and lazy on defense, then it's not

530
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 4: a great move for them. But ultimately, who these guys

531
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: were that they've given up weren't really playing anyway, so

532
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 4: worth a flyer, the Nuggets had to do something. I

533
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 4: think they're close, but not close enough. I think Aaron

534
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Speaker 4: Gordon is that guy's young guy. I really think a

535
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 4: new coach, a new change of team is going to

536
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: be the sort of thing that rejuvenates him and unlocks him.

537
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Speaker 4: Agree with that, Yeah, I think he's got so much

538
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 4: potential and talent, but you know, his mind wasn't in

539
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 4: the right place. And when you've been on a team

540
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 4: like the Magic, Okay, they have made the playoffs the

541
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: last two seasons, but ultimately it's like you're just making

542
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 4: up the numbers, you know.

543
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 5: So now we go to a.

544
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Speaker 4: Team that has real championship aspirations over the next two

545
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 4: three four seasons with Jamal Murray and Nikola Jokich superstar players,

546
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: and now they add that piece who's like, you're not

547
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 4: expected to be much more than just a very good

548
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: role play. You'll get so many opportunities in so much

549
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 4: time if you reward the team and the coaches by

550
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 4: playing the right way. So great spot for Aaron Gordon

551
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 4: to be in. Now it's on him to go out

552
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Speaker 4: there and show the Nuggets what he's got.

553
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Speaker 3: Tk anything to add from the Nuggets side of things,

554
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: I just.

555
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: Think it's kind of interesting that they needed a Jeremy

556
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: Grant replacement. Aaron Gordon is going to be their Jeremy

557
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 2: Grant replacement. But it's kind of got to be an

558
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 2: opposite Jeremy Grant here. Because Jeremy Grant left the Nuggets

559
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: so that he could have more responsibility, more ball handling

560
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: chances playing with the Detroit Pistons. It's the exact opposite

561
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Speaker 2: for Aaron Gordon. He's coming into a situation where they're

562
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Speaker 2: going to need him to do less, but the things

563
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: he is going to be doing. Are gonna be a

564
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 2: lot more important alongside Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray. He's

565
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 2: got to fill in the gaps there. And you know,

566
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Speaker 2: I think that after losing for the majority of his

567
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: career down in Orlando, maybe that's a sacrifice he'll be

568
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: willing to make go into a team that's going to

569
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Speaker 2: be playing deep into the playoffs.

570
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Speaker 3: Just so everybody knows, if you're joining us here on

571
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Speaker 3: the stream team, we do take this show here and

572
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: flip it into a podcast so you can listen to

573
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: it later. You can subscribe to wherever you get your podcasts.

574
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Speaker 3: Just search for the now Dunks podcast. Sorry tasked, I

575
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Speaker 3: interrupted area, but oh good.

576
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you told people that. But I just can't

577
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Speaker 1: firm this. Sorry to be a Gary geek here for

578
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Speaker 1: a second, but somebody chatted this. Somebody in the in

579
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Speaker 1: the stream team said all Garys were traded today, and

580
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Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent true. All three Garys in the

581
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: league were traded today. I just wanted to make sure

582
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Speaker 1: that there was no other Garys out there. So I'm

583
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Speaker 1: gonna have a drink tonight considering that's my alter you.

584
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Speaker 3: Yeah, half hour as Gary tonight.

585
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Speaker 2: Task, you gotta trade Task Mellis for Gary Mellice today.

586
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a chance, but I'll be there. I'll be there.

587
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, unbelievable. Everybody dropping their juniors. Every Gary trade, Well,

588
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: Gary Payton the second wasn't traded. That's a good point.

589
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: There's where's Mitch McGary just hanging out somewhere about Garrison Matthews.

590
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 5: That's what.

591
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 2: A reference for the joke.

592
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Speaker 3: Let's uh, let's go to the third. I guess is

593
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Speaker 3: it their final trade of the day. I think so,

594
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Speaker 3: it's their third start heading out and it's Evan Fournier.

595
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: Don't google them to the Celtics for two second round picks. Lee,

596
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: you're giggling away over there. You still like the Google joke?

597
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: I think Evan Fournier was actually tweeting about it, wasn't it,

598
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: which is pretty funny the Celtics fans.

599
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think?

600
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: Not a lot to get Evan Fournier, who we were

601
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: talking before. Obviously the deadline of you could be like

602
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 3: a sort of Gordon Heyward replacement tape player. Obviously you

603
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: can give you twenty and does a little bit of everything.

604
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Speaker 2: But what do you think?

605
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think This is really good for the Celtics

606
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: because basically they gave up those two first round, two

607
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 4: second round pick, excuse me, and they could absorb his

608
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: contract for that Kemball Walker, Gary Sorry, Gordon Hayward trade

609
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 4: exception and they keep Fournier's bird, right, so they can

610
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: still have some of that trade exception to use in

611
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 4: the off season if he doesn't recay.

612
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Speaker 2: Now, I think there's like eleven million left about that.

613
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Speaker 4: It's about it's around about that now, Keith Smith, thanks

614
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 4: to him for tweeting out his numbers here forever Fournier

615
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: this season twenty points again, forty six thirty nine, eight

616
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 4: shooting splits.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty good for two second round picks. He's probably

618
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 5: going to come off the bench.

619
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Speaker 4: You know, if you've seen Evan forty out over his career,

620
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 4: he just comes out and he can get hot and

621
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: he can light up the box score. So this is

622
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 4: really good for the Celtics. We knew they were in

623
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 4: talks to maybe get Harrison Barnes. I think it would

624
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: have cost them a little bit more to get him.

625
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 4: The Magic were kind of like, all right, we'll take

626
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: two second round picks, why not.

627
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 5: That's that's fine.

628
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Speaker 1: By us.

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Speaker 5: So if you're the Celtics, you basically.

630
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: Gave up virtually nothing to get a guy who's young

631
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Speaker 4: enough who can come out there and score for you

632
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: and give them a little bit of extra punch off

633
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: the bench.

634
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: So I really Mika Smartt, whose name was coming up

635
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: in a lot of tricks. Yeah, yeah, exactly which you

636
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: didn't want to give.

637
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: Up of is they kept They kept him and you

638
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: know again, so you'll you get a little chance here

639
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 4: to maybe resign Evan forty eight two next season. So

640
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: if you give up second round picks just for that,

641
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: I think it's worth it. And the Celtics had to

642
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: do something as well. Now they made a couple of

643
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: other little moves here, but this is a team started

644
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 4: off the season well, really have fallen in a bit

645
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: of a heap. This is dress is one of the

646
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: in needs and that is just another go out who

647
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 4: can score for them. So I think this is an

648
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 4: a for the Boston Celtics.

649
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: Ooh for the be Ta Boys.

650
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: Why not?

651
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: I saw Jay King was tweeting that Evan Fournier has

652
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: already made like seventy three three pointers this season, and

653
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: the entire Celtics bench is like one hundred more than.

654
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: That the entire bench.

655
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, if he's coming off the bench, you should

656
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: help with the shooting trey.

657
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: What'd you think of this?

658
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: Would you go as high as grading it an A

659
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: well Skeets?

660
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: I would give it a bee for beans, obviously, but

661
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: I think that's a fair grade for it as well.

662
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: There wasn't. I mean, Evan Fournier were calling him a star,

663
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: a twenty point per game scorer, fair enough, and he

664
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: was doing it on the magic. He's not a huge star.

665
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: But the Celtics didn't have to give up a whole

666
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: bunch to give him just a couple of second round picks.

667
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: They get to keep Marcus Smart Skeets like you're mentioning,

668
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: which I think is huge, a huge part of the

669
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: culture for Boston. The player that we were talking about

670
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: coming back would help save their season as they were

671
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: kind of scuttling there before the All Star break. We'll

672
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: see if that comes to pass. They traded away Anniel

673
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 2: Tice apparently because he missed the corner three last night.

674
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: If he makes it, maybe he gets to stick around

675
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: in Boston. But there's still moves to be made for

676
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: the Celtics, and they still need to do something on

677
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: the buy out market, bring in some kind of a

678
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 2: big guy, especially moving out Tys who has been starting

679
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: for the past couple of seasons and not really replacing him.

680
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: They got Mo Wagner from the Bulls, which I don't

681
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: think you're probably going to start him. If you're the Celtics,

682
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: maybe I guess it'll be Tristan Thompson. But still seems

683
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: like they need another big guy there. But at least

684
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: they added a little bit of wing depth to their bench.

685
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: That's was this disappointing in the end for the Celtics

686
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: or do you like this move.

687
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: In a vacuum? I love this move. Evan Fourne is

688
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: a baller, you know, he just he doesn't he doesn't

689
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: shy away from taking shots. He's going to come in

690
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: off the bench and he's going to fire away. The

691
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: numbers are really really good for him this series, having

692
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: his best shooting year here at this point of his career.

693
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: And if he's coming off the bench, yeah, I think

694
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: he can replace Gordon Hayward's. You know, he doesn't make

695
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: plays like Gordon Hayward, but yeah, he can fill it up.

696
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: And so the talk was maybe they'd have a j

697
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: Reddick in a trade possibility for the Celtics to help

698
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: out that bench. Well, this is far better than that.

699
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: I do think that that Daniel Tyst thing is a

700
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: little weird. Uh. You know, if they get they get

701
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: thinner up front or are they just going to go

702
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: super duper small a lot of the time. You know,

703
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson might start and then you know, what are

704
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: the what are they going to play it as a

705
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: backup five? Yeah, Mo Wagner.

706
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: I guess Cornett as well from the Bulls fifteenth all

707
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: time and seven footers with three pointers made in NBA history.

708
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: Fifteenth all time.

709
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: I got two stats for Luke Cornett. Number one, he's

710
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: fifteenth all time and three pointers made by a seven

711
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: footer in NBA history. Number two, he's first all time

712
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: and three pointers made by a seven footer in nc

713
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: double A history. You're getting a shooter, Celtics, right, give

714
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: him an A plus.

715
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: You're going to space it out for him. Yeah. I

716
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: guess there's just there's not really many excuses left in

717
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: Boston now. It's I mean, they have enough players, they

718
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: have enough talent, you know, I just think about last year. Oh,

719
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: Robert Williams obviously is going to play a lot at center.

720
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: I just think about their team last year that went

721
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: to a conference finals. This team now having forty eight

722
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: replaces Gordon Hayward. They're just as talented. They should be

723
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: a good team. It's just it has to come within.

724
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean, really, they're just not playing to their capability.

725
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: They got to figure things out in the locker room.

726
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: Evan Fournie is a nice little boost. Nice for him

727
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: to finish off his Orlando Magic career with a game

728
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: winner last night, So good for him, good for good

729
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: for the Celtics. It's a great pickup, you know. And

730
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: he's in a good role. Yeah, like Trey mentioned, he's

731
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: not a star player, but able to fill it up

732
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: and now in a great six man role most likely.

733
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: And now Marcus Smart doesn't have to do as much scoring,

734
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: which would you know, bode well for the Celtics scoring opportunities.

735
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: All right, Keeping it moving here, back to the Raptors.

736
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 3: They didn't trade Kyle Lowry, but they did trade Norm Norman.

737
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: Powell headed to the Portland Trailblazers in exchange for Gary

738
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: Trent Junior as another junior and Rodney Hood tasks. You

739
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: can grade this. Give your opinion on Norm leaving the Raptors.

740
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: You can wax poetically about that.

741
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: What's your take.

742
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been a great run for Norm. He

743
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: saved many a playoff series for the Toronto Raptors. If

744
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: things don't go that way in twenty sixteen against the

745
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Pacers or even against the Bucks, you know, things could

746
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: blow up. Things could be a lot different. They don't

747
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: win a championship, possibly just because of how Norm flipped

748
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: a couple series with that dunk in twenty sixteen. Just

749
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: watch that again. Man, it's great having fans in arenas.

750
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: That was a fun time.

751
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: That's true, though, You're I mean, you're right though, I

752
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: mean in a weird way. A couple times, like you said,

753
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: he's save like that Raptors run. We the North vibe

754
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: of it all, like they lose that game, you know,

755
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: probably because Yeah, he did the same thing the next

756
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: year against the Bucks.

757
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: Also Game five.

758
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: He like popped off for like twenty three points, and

759
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: then he had a couple This gets forgotten, but he

760
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: had a couple of really good games in the twenty

761
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: nineteen Eastern Conference Finals versus the Bucks at the home

762
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: in that series. Yeah, when they were down game Yeah,

763
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: that's exactly right. Yeah, the game three huge plays in

764
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: the fourth and the doublet and nineteen off the bench,

765
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: and then he had eighteen off the bench in Game four,

766
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: and it felt like every time he got the ball.

767
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: I remember in that game he was shooting a three.

768
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: I think he had like twelve or thirty three point

769
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: attempts in that game. But I think it gets forgotten

770
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: because he didn't do much in the finals that year,

771
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: the championship run. But yeah, big moments in big playoff series.

772
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: He's been there for a long time. I was sad

773
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: to see Norm go, I got be honest, but I'm

774
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: excited about what the Raps are getting back, if I'm

775
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: being honest.

776
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good move. It's definitely it's a young

777
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: Norman Gary Trent Junior. I mean, that's basically what they're

778
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: trading for here, and it's a great contract that Gary

779
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: Trent Junior has. Norman Powell has become who he is.

780
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: You know, the last few years. Gary Trent Junior is

781
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: not quite the player that Norman Powell is, but he

782
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: could get there. And I think it's okay for in

783
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: this trade for the Blazers to get the wee the

784
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: Norm slogan. You know, they are actually further north Toronto,

785
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: which is crazy, so they can take that part of

786
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: the slogan. The Reps didn't want to sign Norman Powell

787
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: to another big deal. He's coming up as a restricted

788
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: free agent this offseason, and so it makes sense, like

789
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: you sit back and say, well, all this praise for norma,

790
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: don't you just keep the guys. He's not a geezer,

791
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: but Gary Trent Junior is a lot younger. I think

792
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: he lines up better with Fred and Pascal, so I

793
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: think it makes sense. It's a good return for Norm Palell.

794
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a good trade for both sides. And

795
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: the Blazers are got to be happy with Norman playing

796
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: at his peak. I mean, he he has been really

797
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: really impressive this year. To turn into what he's turned into,

798
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: that's awesome. It's great player development for the Reps, and

799
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: now the Blazers are going to reap those benefits immediately.

800
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: He's going to help out big time.

801
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: I mean we're fawning over foreign and his shooting ability

803
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: and his ability to score twenty points for again.

804
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean that's what.

805
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: Basically Norm's doing. I mean he's on fire this year.

806
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: Of the last little bit, he's been crazy there. He's

807
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: got the opportunity with a lot of the guys out lee.

808
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: What did you think from both sides, the Blazers and

809
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: the Raptors throw some grades on it.

810
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: What do you think?

811
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think Norm Powell has played himself into

812
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: probably twenty million a year going forward. He's got a

813
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: player option for next season eleven million. He's going to

814
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 4: opt out of that because he's going to get paid.

815
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: And the Raptors have got Og, They've got Siakam and

816
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: they've got Fred van Vliet on big money. I just

817
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: think Massaia was like, we can't really afford to pay him,

818
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 4: so see if we can get something in return. And

819
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: you get Gary Trent who's averaging fifteen points a game,

820
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: shooting forty percent on seven and a half threes a game.

821
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 4: Not a bad return because now you get him and

822
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 4: if he continues to improve like that, he basically gives

823
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: you what Norm was giving you.

824
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 5: So this is this is good for both.

825
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what Rodney Hood's going to do, if

826
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 4: he's going to stick around in Toronto.

827
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: Or not a bit of a guaranteed for next year.

828
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 4: No, So you know, he was more just to make

829
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 4: the deal work. But if you're the Blazers, I think

830
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: it's a good move for them. I think gives them

831
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: another score. You know, he's an upgrade on Gary Trent

832
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: and they can take a floor in it. They need

833
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: another guy who can go out there, play the same way,

834
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: hit those shots.

835
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 5: He's a bit frustrating at times. I think that was

836
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 5: a thing with normal.

837
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: He had his He's certainly at times during his Raptors tenure,

838
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: fans wanted him out the door as quick as they could.

839
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: In other times he was like he's getting a statue

840
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: at some point of his career.

841
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: Because he was.

842
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: He was a bit up and down. But this season

843
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: and probably last season as well, he became a lot

844
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: more consistent. So good on him for getting to a

845
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: position where the Raptors just couldn't really afford him. In

846
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 4: the end, he's going to go to he's going to

847
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: go to a situation where he gets paid really well.

848
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 5: And he's earned that.

849
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: But Gary Trent, Yeah, he's having a pretty good season.

850
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 4: So for the Raptors, they're just going to run out

851
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: the clock pretty much now on this season and get

852
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: a look at Gary Trent and see what he's worth

853
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: in the future, because yeah, he's still on his rookie contract,

854
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: so they're basically he'sas you're basically an intern in the

855
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 4: NBA when you're on your rookie contract, and he's playing

856
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: really well. So for the Blazers, I give it, you know,

857
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: be and for the Raptors be as well.

858
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I'm a little perplexed from the

859
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: Blazers side of things, like bringing in Norman Powell, who

860
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: has proven he could score and can and hit the three,

861
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: but he's not helping the Blazers and what they really need,

862
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: which is maybe some defense. They didn't really address that

863
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: tk here at the deadline. In my opinion, again, I

864
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: am a Norm fan. He probably will pop off in

865
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: a couple of playoff games as we just talked about,

866
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: like he did.

867
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: For the Raptors.

868
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: But defensively, Norm is not there and we'll never be

869
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: there in my opinion, and the Blazers probably could use

870
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: someone like that.

871
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: I think it would have been a lot better if

872
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: they could have got Aaron Gordon.

873
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 3: I would have been much more excited for their chances

874
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: to go a little deeper in the playoffs than Norm.

875
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 3: But what say you, TK, I.

876
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: Think that's a fair point. They definitely need some defense.

877
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 2: They could use a big guy. But I suppose at

878
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: least in this move, you could make the argument that

879
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: the Blazers are opening a roster spot. Maybe that goes

880
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: to a buyout guy like LaMarcus Aldridge, because the Blazers

881
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: also did it need a little bit more bench scoring.

882
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: I think, and like Tassa saying like y'all are saying,

883
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: Norm is gonna be I think Norm is going to

884
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: be better for the Blazers this season than Gary Trent

885
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 2: Junior is the Raptors. They're getting a player back phill

886
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: approximate Norms production, at least in the future. He fits

887
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: in with the Toronto culture. He's going to be a

888
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: restricted free ager in the summit. In the summer, a

889
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: little more cost certainty. I think this is a good

890
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: deal all around. Yeah, maybe this is not necessarily the

891
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: area expected the Blazers to go with their trade deadline,

892
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: But we just got the news today from Usef Nurkic

893
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 2: that use Off Nurkic will be returning, So that helps

894
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: their defense, makes their bench a little bit better too.

895
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 2: Sending Ennis Cancer to the bench where he's probably most

896
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: effective and definitely as the second scorer there alongside Norm Powell.

897
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, they gave up basically two first

898
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: round picks for Robert Covington over the offseason, which was

899
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: a big move that was supposed to help their defense.

900
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: They're just relying on him to be a little bit

901
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: better as well, and also not sinking more into players

902
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: who maybe do not move the needle a whole bunch.

903
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: You could get into trouble if you trade three first

904
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: round picks for Robert Covington and Aaron Gordon.

905
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: Fair enough. A little factoid from this deal here today too.

906
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: I saw it going around Twitter. I saw it from

907
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: Aaron Bronstenter. But Portland traded Gary Trent Senior to the

908
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: Raptors in nineteen ninety eight, remember that task. And a

909
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: year later Gary Trent Junior was born. And so here

910
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: we go from the Blazers and the Raptors again dealing

911
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: with Gary Trent some twenty three years later. Life is

912
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: a circle, or something like that circle.

913
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 5: It's been a long day.

914
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: So both tried to have played for both now the

915
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Blazers and the Raptors, as has the young Gary dropped

916
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: his junior. Is he one of those? No, I think

917
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: he is a junior. I think so kept it up.

918
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

919
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: I think most most juniors do keep the junior. But

920
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what happened to Gary Clark. You're right, No,

921
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: people are dropping them, for sure.

922
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: Seniors are adding them to their names, like Marcus Morse,

923
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: but juniors are dropping. They want to be their own. Men.

924
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Don't make me, you know, just associate me with my dad.

925
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Like Jared Jackson junior, he's still a junior.

926
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're still on a Porter junior still a junior.

927
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: Do you think Kevin Porter Junior still a junior?

928
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 5: Or is he?

929
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: Is he just kem Porter?

930
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 5: Now?

931
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: You know these are the big questions we're asking her

932
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: on the stream team. Let's keep it going. I think

933
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: I figured out the details to this next trade while

934
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: we've been talking here. You can tell me if I'm wrong, Guys,

935
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 3: I'll throw it up. The Mavericks are getting JJ Redick,

936
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: Melly Smelly Melly and the Pelicans in return of getting

937
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: James Johnson, Wesuwandu and a second round pick. Again, I'm

938
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: going off of Andrew Lopez there on Twitter. While we

939
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: were doing this show, so I trust him to come

940
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: through with the details. Lee, we thought Reddy could be

941
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: a biout candidate. I was a little shocked that in

942
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: the end he gets moved here at the deadline. What

943
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: do you think of the Mavericks acquiring him and what

944
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: it took together?

945
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the Mavericks I thought were going to make

946
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: some sort of move. I thought it might have been

947
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: a little bit bigger than this. But JJ Reddick is

948
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: a veteran who will go out there and hit threes,

949
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: but he just has not been doing it this season

950
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: in Orlando. He's having a terrible season, which I just

951
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 4: did not think was going to be the case playing

952
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: with stamp in Undie again. So the Mavericks basically just like, yeah, okay,

953
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 4: we can give up James Johnson at window and a

954
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: second round pick. It's there's just not much. This deal

955
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: is not really going to shape the foundations of the

956
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: Western Conference by any means. But with Luca out on

957
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: the floor, Melly also spreads the flow. Basically, That's what

958
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: it is at Mavericks, Like, let's just get more offense.

959
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 4: Let's just try to see if we can score as

960
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 4: many points as we possibly can. Because defensively, they neither

961
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: of these guys bring anything. James Johnson and Where's actually

962
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: are sort of more defensive minded players. So I think

963
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 4: the Mavericks have just decided we're just going to try

964
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: to outscore teams and outshoot them as much as possible.

965
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 4: But yeah, JJ, Reddick really surprising. I thought that was

966
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: a good situation a veteran in New Orleans there for

967
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: a young team that was hoping to make the playoffs.

968
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: But from early on he was just out of the

969
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: rotation and he's injured now.

970
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 5: But you know how.

971
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: Much of that is Maybe they were just not playing

972
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: him to make a deal like this, so you know

973
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 4: this one's.

974
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: See okay, get to see.

975
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of cs C plus is coming

976
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 3: up here.

977
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: With the show.

978
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: This is a deal for the sake of having a deal.

979
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's not really so what there?

980
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: Maybe the Mavericks are hoping that he can replicate what

981
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: Seth Curry was giving them from from the shooting position

982
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 3: oncepon in time. But you're right, Reddicka struggled with a shot.

983
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: Uh Trey or tasks anything to add to the MAVs.

984
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: Get JJ there in his podcast, what do you think?

985
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: Well, it's a great point. They do get the podcast

986
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: that's big. We're gonna have Bulban on that podcast, so

987
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: it's nice to win for us. That's good get for

988
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: the MAVs, good get for JJ Reddick to tap into

989
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: that pipeline there. James Johnson on an expiring contract, so

990
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: I guess, nice job by the Mavericks to get something

991
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: for him in return. Leaning into the offense. You know,

992
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: I'm never met at that when a team says defense,

993
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: what's that? Let's just shoot threes the whole time I'm

994
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 2: in It's fine.

995
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about the Blazers leaning into offense. I mean,

996
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: Luca donc is going to have more space than anybody

997
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: in NBA history, right, He's going to have more space

998
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: than Shack at the three point line with all these

999
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: shooters that he's playing with. Like, they don't really have

1000
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: any defensive minded guys because they're trading them away. They

1001
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: do have Dory and Finney Smith to stop some guys.

1002
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, you line up, Oh yeah, I forgot about Joshi,

1003
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, Luca porzingis, JJ Redick, Melly on the floor

1004
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: and Tim Hardaway. I mean they could just try and

1005
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: beat you with the three point shots. Let's maybe it's

1006
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: not a recipe for winning a lot of playoff series,

1007
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: but it's a recipe for interest from me, just to

1008
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: see how many points they can put on the board

1009
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: and points that they allow. It's gonna be some high

1010
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: scoring games once they get to the playoffs.

1011
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: Our next little somewhat minor deal here, the Clippers got

1012
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: their point guard and it's Rondo. Oh, I can't wait

1013
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: for Lee's take on this. It took them Williams and

1014
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: Sweet Lou Williams going back to the Hawks, Kaka and

1015
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: two second round picks and then some cash.

1016
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: Twitter had some fun with this one, Ley.

1017
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: I mean, it was like mad libs out there on

1018
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: Twitter with this trade playoff Rondo Championship in Tangibles, Lemon

1019
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 3: appro Wet Chicken Wings, Magic City, the Trey lou Backcorp.

1020
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: Will give up ten thousand points, you know whatever.

1021
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: But you know the clips that they needed a point

1022
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 3: guard like a vet to sort of run things, and

1023
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: we've seen Ronde recently have success.

1024
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: In the playoffs.

1025
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: Do you think he continued to do that and help

1026
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: out lac here in a total quest?

1027
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: Well?

1028
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: Possibly.

1029
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: I mean I'm not a big Rondo fan, but at

1030
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: times in the playoffs last season. He was good for

1031
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: the Lakers. Not every game. He has those games where

1032
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: he stinks and they all of a sudden just get

1033
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 4: ignored by the Rondo lovers out there. But this was

1034
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: a terrible signing by the Hawks. Fifteen million for two years.

1035
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: It was a bad move. So they realized that early enough.

1036
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 4: Whether like, yeah, let's get rid of him. Lou Wilms

1037
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 4: coming back in a couple of picks. I mean, that's

1038
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: that's really what it is. Lou Williams surprisingly was on

1039
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 4: the out of there in LA. We knew that his

1040
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 4: name was being tossed around in talk. So a little

1041
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 4: surprised because of what Lou does give you off the

1042
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 4: bench most of the time. He hasn't been playing all

1043
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: that well lately last couple of seasons, so maybe he's

1044
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: lost a little bit of his spark there. But I

1045
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 4: think when you are a bench player, you need to

1046
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 4: be a scorer more than a distributor. So we'll Rondo

1047
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: slot into the starting line up there. I doubt it,

1048
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 4: But you know, the Hawks, they shouldn't have signed it

1049
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: to that. I mean, he was only there for the money,

1050
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 4: and he showed it out on the court. Barely tried,

1051
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: barely put in. And that's again why he's known as

1052
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: playoff Rondo, because he doesn't put in during the regular season.

1053
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 4: He doesn't meant to young plays.

1054
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 5: He doesn't.

1055
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: Ever, there's no evidence he's ever helped the younger player out,

1056
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: so you know, him being there sort of to support

1057
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: Trey Young wasn't the right move, did Land Hawks, So

1058
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: they get rid of him. He goes to a situation

1059
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 4: where he should be more motivated now because the Clippers

1060
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: will make the playoffs and they have championship aspirations. So

1061
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: if he can perform in the playoffs like he has

1062
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: done at times, then this is a good move here

1063
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 4: for the Clippers. If you get in the guy who

1064
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: just sort of feels like it when he plays when

1065
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 4: he feels like it, then you know, Lou Williams was

1066
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 4: out the door anyway, So you're giving up those second

1067
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: round picks, and that's all it is. But I'm just

1068
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 4: glad that the well I'm not I had the whole

1069
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: shouldn't sign him in the first place. But I think

1070
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: they realized they realized a while ago, Yeah, this is

1071
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 4: a bad signing, and now they get off that contract.

1072
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: Is there any concern tray of I don't know Rondo

1073
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: and Paul George butting heads or something like that in

1074
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: a game or a playoff series or what.

1075
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: Do you think of this?

1076
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: The playoff Rondo myth that is, Rondo.

1077
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: Helps the Clippers more than he helps the Hawks. Shout

1078
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: out to the Finessing getting a two year, fifteen million

1079
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: dollars deal and Tas I think you mentioned that if

1080
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: Rondo's team makes the playoffs, he's got another bonus for

1081
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: that as well, an extra seven hundred and fifty K.

1082
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: This guy's got a great agent because now he's going

1083
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: back to a city where he just won a championship

1084
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: to play for a better team. It seems like a

1085
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: mistake for the Hawks, but it was not a mistake

1086
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: for Rejon Rondo and the Los Angeles Clippers. A veteran creator,

1087
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: another guy who can move the ball has been on

1088
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: their checklist since the offseason. It was going to be

1089
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: tough for them all along to get Kyle Lowry. I

1090
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: think this is a decent fallback option for me. With

1091
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 2: regards to lou Williams, do you think he sticks around

1092
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: in Atlanta for the playoff push or is this going

1093
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: to be a buyout, because the Hawks also get cash

1094
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: as well, which could therefore pay for the buyout. Yeah,

1095
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, Tess.

1096
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 3: What do you think is lou going to be in

1097
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: Atlanta here for at least this playoff push?

1098
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 2: And then you can talk to the Clipper side of

1099
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: things if you want to. What do you think?

1100
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he'll stick around for this postseason, just

1101
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: because they are pretty banged doubly Chris Dunn hasn't played yet.

1102
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: They have Brandon Goodwin, but I think they would keep

1103
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: him around. I know he's you know, lost his fastball

1104
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: a little bit, but yeah, I I could see him,

1105
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, sticking around for the rest of this run.

1106
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: And because it was a good return for rg on

1107
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: Rondo to be able to get two second round picks.

1108
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: I know, you know, second round picks don't score buckets,

1109
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: but that's all right for them. And so, yeah, the

1110
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: Clippers are the winner of this deal because they've got

1111
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: the guy who's probably going to make the most impact

1112
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: on the floor. I think the Clippers just needed another

1113
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: a hole. And I know some people may say, oh,

1114
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: the Clippers haven't plenty of those, And some people may think, well,

1115
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're probably the most unlikable team in

1116
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: the NBA now that they have Raj and Rondo. But

1117
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: he's a good type of a hole to have. Draymond

1118
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Green tweeted, this was the best trade of the day.

1119
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: I think the Clippers need. The Clippers just need.

1120
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: Likes to lean into.

1121
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: A take.

1122
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: On TV.

1123
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: So good.

1124
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: He already knows to go for the extremes.

1125
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: You see the Clippers, and and they just they don't

1126
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: have uh, they just don't have a lot of fight

1127
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: a lot of the time. And so to have have

1128
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 1: a guy like that to.

1129
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 5: Who's a quitter, Well, he quit on the Celtics, quit.

1130
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: On the championship.

1131
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: But well, let's go through his history. He quit on

1132
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 4: the Celtics when he went big three with it. He

1133
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 4: quit on the Mavericks to the point where the Mavericks

1134
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 4: team like, we're not even giving him his playoff bonus.

1135
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: So U players loved him Lee team. Sure, the locker

1136
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: room was completely divided, but all the young players took

1137
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: Rondo's side on that one.

1138
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: Team USA when he knew he wasn't to make it.

1139
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: He quit on Team USA, quit on the Kings, quit

1140
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 4: on the Pelicans. Rundo when he's in a situation. When

1141
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 4: he can win, he puts in. When he's not, he

1142
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: quits if the.

1143
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: Living rent freeze and what hells?

1144
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 5: But what do these things get ignored?

1145
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: Though, He's got a history of quitting when the going

1146
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 4: gets tough.

1147
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 5: That's what he does.

1148
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's thinks are being ignored. They're trading him

1149
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: because he's not working out in Atlanta. But say he's

1150
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: going to a winning franchise, a team that's winning right now,

1151
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: So he's going to help them, because you're right, like

1152
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: he's he didn't work in Sacramento, didn't work in Dallas.

1153
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: He's butts heads with a lot of people. But the

1154
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Clippers need some head button they need they need a

1155
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: guy who is a jerk in the in the locker room,

1156
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: they just they fall apart to too many times. So uh,

1157
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: it's it's a better fit than Lou Williams, that's for sure.

1158
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: Andre Monkreen. Yeah, it might be a little hyperbole, but

1159
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: it makes it makes logical sense to get another jerk

1160
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: when your team just kind of it just kind of

1161
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: kind of falls apart.

1162
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how he's going to bring them together though,

1163
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 4: for a guy who's just gonna again in the locker room.

1164
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: They need someone on the court to be a liitle

1165
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: a leader and show them what the hell to do

1166
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: and get the ball to the right guys when you

1167
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: need to and stuff like.

1168
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: So he's got he's a coach on the floor at

1169
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: this point.

1170
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: You're not wrongly, I'm not disagreeing with like going through

1171
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: his you know, his checkered pass there with some teams.

1172
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 3: But he's also been super successful on two teams to

1173
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: win championships in Boston and play so see which one

1174
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 3: we get here with the Clipper.

1175
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's always been like the fourth or fifth

1176
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: best player on this.

1177
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: Here. I know.

1178
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 4: But but that's what that's That's what I'm saying, is

1179
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 4: like he gets a pass. In my opinion, he gets

1180
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 4: a pass with those times where he's like, we're not

1181
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: going to win, so I'm just not even gonna try.

1182
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: He doesn't compete when he knows the things that when

1183
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: the odds are against him. Instead, he just like, all right,

1184
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 4: I'm quitting on this. I'm not playing here. I'm not

1185
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 4: playing hard when there's nothing for me to win.

1186
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 5: When he has a.

1187
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 4: Chance to win, oh yeah, we'll play now. It's like

1188
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: when you're playing pick up and the cute girl walks

1189
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: up and never one starts playing hard, hustling to the ball,

1190
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 4: driving on the ground. When she's all day that, He's like, nah,

1191
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 4: I'm done, I'm losing on.

1192
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: I've never seen you dive on the ground once.

1193
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: In your life.

1194
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: Just go three point line to three point line, never

1195
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: any gils. We'll come to what else? Play?

1196
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: It's good, a good point Steve, Steve Balmer will be

1197
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: court side for the Clippers. You think he's cute enough

1198
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: for it? Be Brian Hart, I think so. And yeah,

1199
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: that's seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars playoff bonus. I mean,

1200
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: I just I don't know it was it was publicised.

1201
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: John Hollinger publicized it. You don't. I don't know some

1202
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: of these bonuses, you know, they just kind of written

1203
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: in contracts and we don't see them. But yeah, I

1204
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: thought that could be a motivator for Rondo in Atlanta. Uh,

1205
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, they could very well make the playoffs. But

1206
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: now he's going to LA and unless you know, that

1207
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: was scratched, that was wipe from his contract. That Steve

1208
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: Bomber's got to pay that banks.

1209
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: Okay, he's got the money.

1210
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Developers developers.

1211
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's give it going.

1212
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 3: We'll start to fly through some of the more minor

1213
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: trades today. Back to your Bulls, though I had to

1214
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: edit this one on the fly TK and so apologies

1215
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 3: to everybody. I sort of think I have it right.

1216
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 5: At least to some extent.

1217
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: But the Bulls got earlier Troy Brown junior. I think

1218
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: he keeps the junior.

1219
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: Task on that one.

1220
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: Mo Wagner, who was then traded to the Celtics for

1221
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: Daniel Tye as we've alluded to here, and the Wizards

1222
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: get Daniel Gafford and Chandler Hutchetson so Trey. Yeah, again,

1223
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 3: the Tyse thing makes us a little different, but different.

1224
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have been happy if this was the

1225
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: only move the Bulls make, just a little back of

1226
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: the roster churn, because obviously, you know, I mean, these

1227
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: are not huge names, any of the five guys that

1228
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 2: were involved in these couple of trades here, but Daniel

1229
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: Gafford is a solid energy guy off the bench as

1230
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: a backup big man. But obviously bringing in Vucevic, it's

1231
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: not as much of a need right now for the Bulls,

1232
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: so they flip it. They're able to get a guy

1233
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: like Daniel Tye was a bit more of a floor stretcher.

1234
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: I do believe seems to fit in with the past

1235
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: dribble shoot kind of Bulls era we're going into right now.

1236
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: Troy Brown Junior's gonna help playing defensively. I forgot he

1237
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: was such a high draft pick pretty recently. I guess

1238
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 2: if you're a Bulls fan, you can make an argument

1239
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: that they were re placing one twenty eighteen first rounder

1240
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: in Wendell Carter Junior, with another one in Troy Brown Junior.

1241
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: But this is good. Yeah, I guess you're good if

1242
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: you're you're a positive beat like old Drake Kervy here.

1243
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: But these are minor moves. I just think the Bulls

1244
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: got a little bit better on the deep bench here

1245
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: and Tye. I was happy when it was Mo Wagner.

1246
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: You know, we got a little bit of history. He

1247
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 2: had him on the starters a long time ago. He

1248
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: went to Michigan, so I love him. But Daniel Tice

1249
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: is a better player than me Wagner. He's been more established,

1250
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: he's been starting playoff games. And even if you can't

1251
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: hit a three pointer from the corner with less than

1252
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: one second left, I still think he could have a

1253
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: solid impact trying to get into the play in tournament,

1254
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: trying to actually win a playoff series, something like that.

1255
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: So smart moves by the Bulls, just little, tiny moves,

1256
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: but they add up over time.

1257
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 3: One of the earlier deals from today tass You can

1258
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: throw a grade on this one if you want to.

1259
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 3: The Nuggets, Yeah, they got Aaron Gordon, but before that

1260
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 3: they got JaVale McGee, little backup center there for the rotation,

1261
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 3: and it took Hartenstein and two second round picks going

1262
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 3: to the Caves.

1263
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: How you green this one?

1264
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: Calves get an A plus two second round picks is

1265
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: good for JaVale McGee and they get a player and

1266
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hertenstein. You would have thought that the Calves would

1267
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: probably release JaVale McGee or buy him out so he

1268
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: can go find something or get cash considerations. But to

1269
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: get two second round picks and a player, an actual

1270
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: human body for JaVale McGee is good. And I think

1271
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: the Nuggets are going to be really happy with three

1272
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: time NBA champ JaVale McGee coming off the bench. He

1273
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: is he's a good locker room guy too, and he

1274
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: can come in and fill the need. When you know

1275
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: Jokic sits he's won championships is not a joke. I

1276
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: mean it helps, and so good moves on their part.

1277
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: I mean the Calves get another center. That's that's that's

1278
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: their mo that's what they have. And they're apparently going

1279
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: to buy out Andre Drummond here. He didn't get moved

1280
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, and so maybe the nick sign

1281
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 1: him as a buyout guy. But I guess the good

1282
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: move from the Cavs perspective is Larry Nance sticks around.

1283
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: And as he tweeted the Wolf of Wall Street Leonardo

1284
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: DiCaprio gift, I'm Notalie and anywhere. So that's cool, that's

1285
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: cool that Larry Nance sticks around. I thought that Boston

1286
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: Celtics would at least get Larry Nance. Not let's say

1287
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: that Larry Nance's deserves the verbiage. At least he's good.

1288
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: But I thought the Celtics would be able to pry him,

1289
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: to get him to fill in for Daniel Tyson's spots

1290
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: as their center. But yeah, the Calves like Larry Nance

1291
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: because he's he's freaking good and he's not freaking going anywhere.

1292
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: So all that to say, they got a lot of

1293
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: big men in Cleveland. That's a that's a decent move

1294
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: for them.

1295
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: We had a three way today, Ley, I know you

1296
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: love the three ways, Lee, this one involving the Sixers,

1297
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 3: the Thunder, and your New York Knicks.

1298
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: Sixers get George.

1299
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 3: Hill and Iggy bres Daikiss Thunder, get Austin Rivers Tony Bradley,

1300
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: two future second round picks, and then getting in in

1301
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: the mix here, get Terence Ferguson, which I actually really like,

1302
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: Vincent Poier, who is the French Van Vliet if you've

1303
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 3: never seen him, and Philly second round pick again a bit.

1304
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 2: Of a minor deal.

1305
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: George Hill is the interesting name here, Lee, because you

1306
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: know we're talking about Rondo and whether that vet point

1307
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: guard can help the Clippers' chances to go deep, and

1308
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: then Lowry being off the board completely. Well, George Hill

1309
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: is another like point guard that was available today and

1310
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: in the end the Sixers gone grab which I like.

1311
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: But what do you think of this?

1312
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1313
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 4: No, that's that's what the Sixers need, just another veteran

1314
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 4: presence who can come out at the end of the

1315
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 4: game maybe and be on the floor. They can they

1316
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 4: can trust him a little bit there. The big weird

1317
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 4: thing here is Austin Rivers had a couple of really

1318
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 4: good moments for the Knicks early this season. Remember against

1319
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 4: the Jazz, he had that great game, and something happened

1320
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 4: there between him and coach Thibodeau, and he just was

1321
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 4: no longer a part of that team. No one knows

1322
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: what it was, but something happened where he was away

1323
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 4: from the team for personal reasons. And I was just

1324
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 4: a little bit surprised because I think Austin Rivers has

1325
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 4: actually turned himself into a solid vet at this stage

1326
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 4: of his career, where he knows his role. He comes

1327
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: out on the team and he works hard at both ends,

1328
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,959
Speaker 4: and he was doing that for the Knicks and having

1329
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: some success. So something happened and the Knicks obviously move

1330
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 4: on from him. For the Sixers, I mean, all these

1331
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 4: other moves that they're not they're just sort of pieces

1332
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 4: to make the deal work here that no one's really

1333
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: going to impact their team. But George Hill is a

1334
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 4: good get for a team like the Sixers who are

1335
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 4: clearly going to make the playoffs and they need just

1336
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: some reliable veterans on the bench who can maybe come

1337
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 4: out and just be a presence in a game or

1338
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: two come playoff time, and just provide a little bit

1339
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: of leadership and solidarity really out there on the court.

1340
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 4: And that's really all it is. Tony Bradley's two future sect.

1341
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 4: I mean, none of that stuff's going to have any

1342
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: significant impact on this season. So for Philadelphia, obviously they

1343
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: had bigger fish to fry today.

1344
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 5: They were hoping to land a.

1345
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: Bigger deal, couldn't get it done, But instead they have

1346
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: a nice little consolation piece here and getting George Hill.

1347
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think, Trey? Is that what this says? Like, Okay, there.

1348
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: Was no Lowry move to be made, or you know,

1349
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: they couldn't agree on one. Marian and Messa jeris like, okay,

1350
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 3: well let's go get George Hill. It'll be a lot

1351
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 3: cheaper to get him and bring him in.

1352
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, very similar to the Clippers going after Rondo once

1353
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: it became clear that getting Kyle Lowry gotta be tough.

1354
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: You gotta do something else if you're trying to beef

1355
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: up if you're the Sixers. So yeah, George Hill becomes

1356
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: the Kyle Lowry replacement. He might become our next Jeff

1357
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: Green as things continue on down his career. He's been

1358
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: traded six times already, usually acquired by competing teams who

1359
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: need to do something but can't always pull off something.

1360
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: Big usually helps. You can always talk yourself into it, right,

1361
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: You're like George Hill ten million dollars this year, ten

1362
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: million next year. Would you rather have him? Or would

1363
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: you rather pay Kyle Lowry thirty million this year than

1364
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: whatever you have to pay him the next year for

1365
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: three second round picks? If you're not going to be

1366
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: able to pull off the Lowry move, this is pretty fine.

1367
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 3: I think Okase now has projected thirty four draft picks

1368
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: task over the next seven years. I think it's perfect.

1369
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: Seventeen first round draft picks and seventeen second round yep,

1370
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: oh do you think of that? I think they keep

1371
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 3: them all. Who do you like in the twenty twenty six,

1372
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: twenty seventh draft they got your eye on, I know

1373
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: your big scout.

1374
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Troy Brown, Troy Brown, the fourth guys, Yeah, guys,

1375
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: guys never go with junior junior. They go with the third.

1376
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like junior.

1377
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 5: Junior A lot friends, Gary J.

1378
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: Frank junior junior.

1379
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1380
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: I did see someone on Twitter while we're doing this show,

1381
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: and maybe it was in the stream team too.

1382
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, there's a lot going on, but.

1383
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: Like, maybe I was confused that Gary Clark Junior is

1384
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: the rock musician and then just Gary Clark is just

1385
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: the NBA player. But I could have swore he's got

1386
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 3: a junior at one point on as a basketball reference

1387
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: page with it. Maybe yeh, that's where I'm confusing him. Anyway,

1388
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: let's keep it going here. The final ones we'll throw

1389
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 3: up here be Alitza. He was a name that was

1390
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 3: being rumored to be on the move. Miami Heat get him, uh,

1391
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: you know, replacing basically Kelly Lennok I think is what

1392
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: that move is? There they get from the Kings, from

1393
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: Moharkless and Chris Silva. We had the Raptors moving Matt

1394
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: Thomas to the Jazz. Yes, pour one out for our guy.

1395
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 3: Alex Wong, the biggest Matt Thomas fan in the world

1396
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 3: with the who Sports grew up in Canada and so

1397
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: he goes to Utah and look, hey, they shoot three pointers.

1398
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 3: He might get a chance deep in little rotation, Raptors

1399
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: got a twenty one second round pick back. That's by

1400
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: way of the Warriors. Raptors weren't done. Terrence Davis. Now

1401
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 3: here's the second. I forgot to put the two eyes

1402
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: in there, Terrence Davis. The second goes to the Kings

1403
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 3: and the Raptors get a feature second round pick for him.

1404
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: And then late last night, right on Wednesday night, the

1405
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: King's also got Dylan Wright for Corey Joseph six and

1406
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: two second round picks. Anything you wanted to add, Oh, yeah,

1407
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: Brad Wanamaker went to the Hornets.

1408
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Marquis Chris went to the Spurs. That's right, and.

1409
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's it unless something else

1410
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: was trickling in while we've been recording here the last hour.

1411
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: But leave any of those kickle your balls.

1412
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 4: Delnroight and Corey Joseph basically the same player. And I

1413
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 4: always think those guys in any situation they go in,

1414
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 4: they provide decent roles for their team.

1415
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 5: So I'm surprised that.

1416
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: They've bounced around quite as much as they have, both

1417
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: former Raptors, of course, and when they playing for the Raptors,

1418
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 4: I thought they's got a solid coming off solid, yeah,

1419
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 4: but they just keep on getting moved around. And again,

1420
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 4: sometimes you look at these picks and you just think,

1421
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 4: I think sometimes GMS are just like us in fantasy,

1422
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 4: where you just sometimes just want to make a deal.

1423
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: Frank Langelo hold on, I think there's a couple of

1424
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 3: reasons actually for this one, as minor as it is.

1425
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: First off, the Pistons want to be bad.

1426
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: Okay, the one right was playing pretty well for them,

1427
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:34,919
Speaker 2: little too good.

1428
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: He was too good.

1429
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: I mean's not going to come there and just.

1430
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: Take Corey Joseph at this point in their career. And

1431
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: I think, but it gives Detroit like six million dollars

1432
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: more spending the off season. You get second round picks,

1433
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 3: so you're either using those in a trade to sweeten

1434
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: the trade or use them because you're the Pistons. And yeah,

1435
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: you got enough guards still in the mix. Killian Hayes

1436
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 3: is coming back. That's, in theory, your point guard of

1437
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: the future. And as for the King side of things,

1438
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: I think Hollinger pointed it out. You know, maybe this

1439
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: gives them eventually a little more meaningful cap room to

1440
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 3: possibly sign like for Shawn Holmes, right and their first

1441
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 3: round pick, whoever that be. So I think it's just

1442
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: like they're cooking the books herely. It's like, totally, you.

1443
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 4: Can't tell me that some of those gms are just

1444
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 4: like I just want to make a trade. I just

1445
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 4: want to trade someone. I mean, it used to happen

1446
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 4: in fantasy basketball with the deadline coming down as well. Listen,

1447
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 4: I'm all right, I'm trading someone. I don't care who

1448
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 4: it is.

1449
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,479
Speaker 5: I'm sure trading someone, you know, and just to.

1450
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: Make it look like you're busy exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's

1451
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 2: like playing top shotly. You know, some nights there'll be

1452
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: a crazy boom. You gotta flip them. Then you gotta

1453
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: flip them at the trade deadline. You've got what you

1454
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: needed out of Delon right, he played solid point guard

1455
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: but the patients for half a season, and now you're

1456
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: able to turn into two second round picks. That's a

1457
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 2: smart move, especially when you're getting a player to replace

1458
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: him in coortantly.

1459
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 4: The funny thing is with second round picks is sometimes

1460
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, you're getting a couple of second round picks,

1461
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 4: but often they're just thrown in as well, just to

1462
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 4: make the deal happen, you know. So like that's the

1463
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 4: thing with Sam Presty. Thirty four draft picks in the

1464
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: next seven years. Yeah, okay, great, but you gotta have

1465
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 4: to you have to turn those into something special. I mean,

1466
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 4: because you can accumulate all these but if you don't

1467
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 4: draft well, or you don't you can't translate those into

1468
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 4: some sort of successful players or as a successful group,

1469
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 4: then people are going to start saying, what's the point

1470
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 4: of it all?

1471
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 3: You know, well, yeah, of course, I mean we've well

1472
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: similar things. Of course we're going with the hinky sixers

1473
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: way back when. Yes, some of those picks worked out well,

1474
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: some of them knocking on the door. But I hear

1475
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: what you're saying.

1476
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: I just want you to have.

1477
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 3: All the picks. I want to see it. I mean,

1478
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 3: do you care about the first round, the entire second round?

1479
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: I want it to be all okasey picks.

1480
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: I just that's the thing though, when at some point,

1481
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: so many, so many thunder we want to see, you know,

1482
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 4: you don't just want to be getting your Michael Carter

1483
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 4: Williams with your first overall pick and then you know

1484
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 4: your Neurlands and know well you gotta you want to

1485
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 4: get something better.

1486
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: You'd like thunder fans Joel Embiid or Ben Simmons right

1487
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: that he did.

1488
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 4: Them too, that he did hit, but others that he

1489
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 4: that he missed out on as well.

1490
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.

1491
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 4: I mean, thunder fans are going to be like in

1492
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 4: five years, like, okay, we better be a damn good

1493
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 4: team then or else.

1494
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 5: Uh, what's the point.

1495
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: Could we have traded those thirty four picks for Kyle

1496
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: Lowry thirty deal?

1497
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: Wow?

1498
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: Done?

1499
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: No, they're not even playing Shane Gilders Alexander now. They're like, no,

1500
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: there's something wrong with your foot. You got plant for fashions? Yeah, sorry, yeah, yeah,

1501
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: don't play. We don't want to win games. We're winning

1502
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 3: too many games. Uh that's what Okay, so he's thinking here,

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01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: but I hear what you're saying. You got to do

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Speaker 3: something with them, and yeah, and maybe they will and

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01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: packaging them together to get like you know, actually key

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01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 3: players or higher picks somehow or or yeah, they just

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01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: take a million bites at the apple eating the apple core?

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01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: You ever do that? Lead you ever actually the apple?

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01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:40,959
Speaker 5: Oh god?

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01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 1: Really wow?

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01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: That was way too fast the same Yeah, I mean,

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01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: like rie, maybe that sounded like a regular.

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01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 5: Thing, like not a regular thing.

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01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 4: But sometimes if you ever been in a situation where

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01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 4: the knife trash handy and you're just like, oh well.

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01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: Right, let me eat this stem in the inside of this.

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01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to just drop it.

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 5: It's not a regular thing, but it's happened. It has happened.

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I got no way to put this down,

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01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 4: all right, I need the stem.

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01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 5: But.

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01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 2: Incredible.

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: I do find it a fun challenge, like to try

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01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: and eat it as much of the actual.

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01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, apples are so deceptive as well, because sometimes you

1526
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 4: can get the tastiest, juiciest ones and you do eat

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01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 4: it like literally every little morsel off that core, you know,

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01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 4: the skin and everything. And other times you have a

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01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 4: couple of bites and they're soft inside, like get out

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01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 4: of here.

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01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 3: I hate though, when I accidentally do take a bite

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01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 3: of an apple and I you know, I miss fire

1533
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 3: on how deep I think I can take that place?

1534
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: And I've opened up the inner core of the apple.

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01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, seats everywhere. Yeah it's horrible.

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01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 3: Oh thanks, can't believe you eat that whole thing.

1537
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: You're like a hog man.

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01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: All right.

1539
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: So that is I think all the trades.

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01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: I maybe we missed one or two, but we'll talk

1541
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 3: about them and happy hour tonight. You can join us

1542
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 3: at halftime of the first game on TNT. Yes, it's

1543
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 3: the trade deadline hangover. We'll be hanging out, maybe talking

1544
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: about some of the trades, maybe not, maybe talking about

1545
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 3: the game, maybe not, probably just talking about the way

1546
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: we eat our apples. So join us NBA Happy hour,

1547
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: trade deadline hangover. That is tonight here, Thursday night Live

1548
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: on YouTube. Halftime of the first game, which I'm actually

1549
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: drawing the blank on right now. I don't even know

1550
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 3: what The first.

1551
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: Game is Blazer's heat before Yeah that sounds right, yeah,

1552
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 2: Blazers sounds and then Philly Lakers is the late one.

1553
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: Always a weird night of basketball the night of the

1554
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: trade deadline. Since so many guys, especially this year, are

1555
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: moving team to team, so they're all held out of

1556
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: these games. You're gonna see some weird lines out there.

1557
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah, Like who's the Sixers are

1558
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: down a lot of guys. I gotta be they won't

1559
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 3: be having a lot of guys out there. Well, speaking

1560
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 3: of the games here, let's just get to our pick

1561
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 3: the results brought to you by Bett MGM from last night.

1562
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 3: It was the Nuggets Raptors game. Denver was favored by

1563
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: one and a half, and I tried to tell you

1564
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 3: guys that you gotta take the Raptors. Man, this is this.

1565
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: Is Kyle Lowry swansong. He's going out with a victory.

1566
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: Well that part was right, except he's not leaving. So

1567
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: the Raptors got to win.

1568
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm the only one that took them to cover happy

1569
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 3: about that. Needed to make up a game on you guys.

1570
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 3: I'm seven and eight. Lea's seven and eight now with

1571
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 3: that lost. Tass is eight and seven, so he's right there.

1572
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 3: And Trey again helped by JD earlier last week or

1573
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: well last week I should say.

1574
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: Is ten and five. J finally got one wrong. Yeah,

1575
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: JD had the Denver Nuggets last night. You're human, JD.

1576
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: Good to know.

1577
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: Yep, that's true.

1578
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: And you have a Raptor's shirt on.

1579
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 3: Look at your trader.

1580
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you should take in the Raptors, is.

1581
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Well, he didn't get traded. If he

1582
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: had been traded, he would have been right.

1583
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you thought you might be held out of

1584
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 3: the lineup. As we talked about, good point, good point. Okay, anyway,

1585
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 3: tonight's game task, where are we going?

1586
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about the Sixers being shorthanded. They're going

1587
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: into Los Angeles to play the Lakers. Obviously, the Lakers

1588
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: very shorthanded themselves. No Lebron to Anthony Davids, so they're

1589
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: getting four and a half points. Philly is favored by

1590
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: four and a half points. The Lakers can lose by four, three,

1591
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: two or one if you pick them. So, Trey, what

1592
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: do you think you think the Lakers are covering that spread?

1593
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: In four three two one, I'm taking the Lakers, big

1594
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: game for Taylor Horton Tucker showing out after not being

1595
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 2: traded for Kyle Lowry.

1596
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the one they held on too, so

1597
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: they didn't get Kyle Lowry. Sup with that? All right? Skeez,

1598
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: you got to make a pick in four three two one?

1599
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'm taking the Lakers as well to cover.

1600
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 3: Did you see Kyle Kuzma back to looking like slim

1601
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: shady dyed the hair bleach blonde again. Yes, I'll take

1602
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 3: the Lakers to cover. I'm not saying they're gonna win this,

1603
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: but I think we've got a close game.

1604
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: They're on TNT.

1605
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Frank Vogel was funny about Kuzma's haircut. He said,

1606
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: if we lose, I guess I got to bleach my

1607
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: hair like cous all right, so you got to make

1608
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: your pick, Lee and four to three two not too early, okay,

1609
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: four to three okay, go ahead, Yeah, tough.

1610
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: One, tough, funny.

1611
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, not sure what to do, but I think Philadelphia can.

1612
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 5: Just get this one done.

1613
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: So I'll take Philadelphia.

1614
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,520
Speaker 5: But I think war was reporting.

1615
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 4: Lebron's had forty six weeks with.

1616
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: That high ankle spring. Oh wow.

1617
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 4: I think I saw that coming through the twig stays,

1618
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 4: so it wasn't a fake wash.

1619
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 2: I hope some people today.

1620
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I'll take Philadelphia.

1621
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: What is it? Four and a half?

1622
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 5: He said, tests yeah, give.

1623
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: Me wow, okay, yeah, And Danny Green was rumored, speaking

1624
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: of Philadelphia and La, his former team, was rumored to

1625
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: be going to Golden Stay for a little bit today,

1626
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: but that didn't happen, so he's sticking around to Philly.

1627
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: He'll be there. I will take the Lakers, who their

1628
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: hack knows, but I think they can cover four six weeks.

1629
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: That sucks if Lebron is out for that long, that's

1630
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: terrible news.

1631
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 3: Hi ankle Sprain, I'll do it to you, Okay, So

1632
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 3: three of us taking the Lakers the plus four and

1633
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 3: a half. Lee's got Philly winning by five or more.

1634
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us here on the

1635
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: stream team. Shout out to everybody that joined us live.

1636
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: We did some crazy numbers today, so thank you, thank you,

1637
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 3: Thank you. Back tonight for NBA Happy Hour if you

1638
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 3: want to join us then and then tomorrow tasks is

1639
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,879
Speaker 3: what you need to know live at seven am Eastern,

1640
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 3: and then we got the Drop podcast at ten. We

1641
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: will again do our trade deadline winners and losers, especially

1642
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: on that Drop podcast. But get your questions in for

1643
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1644
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1649
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1650
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 3: going for the summer, so you.

1651
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Speaker 3: tonight or tomorrow. Clipper Rose, you heard it here first.

1657
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Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up love you guys awesome.

1658
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And I see that twenty eight

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Speaker 1: hundred people are currently watching us. If you all subscribe

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Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna have a drink tonight. But if

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Speaker 1: only twenty seven hundred, if you subscribe right now, I'm

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Speaker 1: not so subscribe. That's all right.

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Speaker 2: Come on, let's get Gary tonight. Everybody hit that like

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Speaker 2: button hit.

1665
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a junior tonight.

1666
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 2: What Embrace the Navy?

1667
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: You could stay every day.

1668
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Speaker 2: And dad be happy every minute.

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01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: It's been so long with your Lona Way already, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be grevy. It would