1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: I am all in. This isn't Old Man Music with 2 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Scott Patterson. Everything You've ever wanted to know about the 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: music of Gilmore Girls, Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: in Podcast one eleven Productions. iHeartRadio Media, iHeart podcast. We 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: are going to bring you part two of our Kenny 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: g Conversation. Kenny, we have to talk about your collaborations 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: with like Sinatra, Seline, Dion, Andrew Bocelli and many more. 8 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: What was it like? It's Sinatra? Tell me just please. 9 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: I grew up listening to Sinatra and my obviously my 10 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: parents were obsessed. There was a radio station sid Mark God, 11 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: what was the call sign for sidmar rks Sounds of 12 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Sinatra in the Philadelphia in Philadelphia, and every night my 13 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: mom would cook to that. And I love Sinatra. I 14 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: love everything about Sinatra. Tell me about that collaboration. How 15 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: did you meet him? What's going on with that? 16 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: I did meet him, but it wasn't while we were 17 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: doing this thing. It's like, this was the modern time 18 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: when producers would just send it was tape, but a 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: big tape, you know, a big twenty four track tape, 20 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: right he would just Phil Ramone was the producer Okay, hey, 21 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: I want you to play with Frank Snatra songs and 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: we're doing a duets album Frank snatchas Barbara Streisan. It's 23 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: bono blah blah blah. And of course you know one instrumentalist, 24 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: we're going to have you be the great. So send 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: me to music. So he sends it to me, and 26 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: I do it and just really in the vacuum of 27 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: my own studio, but all by myself, and I did 28 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: what I thought was the right notes, and I sent 29 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: it in and they liked it, and and I met 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: Frank Sinatrada at a Hollywood party, you know, at some 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: point with him the next year, and I said, hey, 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: it was great to be on your record and nice 33 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: to meet you. And you know that was about it. Unfortunately, right, sorry, 34 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: there was no romance in that one. Unfortunately. 35 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: That's good. Kay, it's a good look. Look you got 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: to be on his record, man, I know you met 37 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: the dude. That's that's pretty awesome. 38 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: I did, and they and to watch Saturday Night Live 39 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: do a spoof on that duet's record and have a 40 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: guy play me and play like these screechy notes, just 41 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: like it, guys, get this guy out. 42 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: Did you did you ever Now, speaking of collaborations, did 43 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: you ever turn one down that you wish you wouldn't have? 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, so yeah, Luther vandros And and Mariah Endless 45 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: Love they did a you know that that the Lionel 46 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: Richie song. And Okay, so Tommy Mottola, if Sony calls 47 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: and he wants me to do a solo on the record, 48 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: I my best friend at the time, was producing it 49 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: well with my friend Walter. Unfortunately we're not friends anymore. 50 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: And it's not because of this, but Walter said to me, 51 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: he goes, bro, I'm producing this record. I just do 52 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: not hear a Sack solo here. I know they want 53 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: you to because it's marketing, and you got to tell 54 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: them no. And because of this is how I am. 55 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: I'm a friend, like if I promise something, I don't care. 56 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: So he's my bro, you know. I said, Okay, you 57 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: got it. So I told him I wouldn't play the solo, 58 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: but god damn it, I wish I would have done it. Yeah, 59 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: So there you go. That one got away from me, 60 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: and for the right reasons. But at the end of 61 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: the day, it would have been better. I fact, that 62 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: would have been great, Mariah and Luther come on. 63 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Well you got to be on this podcast, so that 64 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: kind of makes up for it. Anyway, I forgot Luther Man, 65 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: you have a chance to be on the anyway. All right, 66 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: So this is a factoid that blew my mind when 67 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: I read it. Nineteen ninety seven, give us book a 68 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: world record. Oh yeah, yeah, you held a note on 69 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: the saxophone for forty five minutes and forty seconds, forty 70 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: seven seconds using circular breathing, Kenny, What motivated you to 71 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: attempt that? And what did did you practice for it? 72 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Well? Okay, so this technique is not you know, it's 73 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: not just me, as any instrumentalist can do it. It's 74 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: a way of using your cheeks. You blow them air 75 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: out of your cheeks, you breathe in your nose at 76 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: the same time, like making your head into a bagpipe. Basically. 77 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 78 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: So I learned how to do it, and I got 79 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: really good at it, and I was on the Regis 80 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: Philburn Morning show whatever the show that's what's that show 81 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: called Regis and Kathy Lee whatever was that? And he somehow, yeah, 82 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: I heard you can do this show us. So I 83 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: do it, and then I'm back in the green room, 84 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: and on the same show, the Guinness people were there 85 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: to talk about whatever world records had been set in 86 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: the last six months or whatever. And the guy goes, 87 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: you know, you should set a world record for the 88 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: longest note. I said, what's the world record? He goes, 89 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: there isn't one. I said, well, then I think I'm 90 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: shot at it. I thought, well, maybe I can do 91 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: ten minutes. So we went and tried it, and after 92 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: each like four or five minutes and another tan, I go, Okay, 93 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: I'll keep going. And I just kept going and I 94 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: had no idea I could do it that long and Moe, well, 95 00:05:53,720 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: my lips were so tired at the end, fasted some ice. 96 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 2: After that was over a lot of work. 97 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: All right, you're kind of a guy in this pop 98 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: culture universe, right, Katie Perry video Spongebomb. I mean, how 99 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: do you feel about, you know, balancing like serious instrumental 100 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: music to more pop culture projects. What do you prefer? 101 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: Love it? No? No, no, I mean I prefer my music. 102 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: I prefer just doing my thing all alone. That's what 103 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: I prefer. But if the Weekend wants me to play 104 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: a solo or I just did something that's going to 105 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: come out this Christmas for the Jonas Brothers. I just 106 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: solo on their song, and I'm in the movie too, 107 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: by the way, which is super cool. So that kind 108 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: of stuff is like, it's like a puzzle, and my 109 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: brain loves puzzles. So how am I going to put 110 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: my notes in this song and make it sound like it? 111 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: Like? 112 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: It works? So I love it. I really love doing it. Obviously, 113 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: I have to love the song. It has to be 114 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: in the right frame. Like I just did something with 115 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: Doja Cab on the VMAs and it was like kind 116 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: of figure out this whole thing, what's going to sound 117 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: good with and that was really fun. So when that 118 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: works out, I really like it when the young people 119 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: see they can't you know, A and I can't replace 120 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: a guy like me cannot do it right because there's 121 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: the nuances of the way that those notes go that 122 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: you just can't do with a synthesizer. And that's what 123 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: happens is these these pop guys they do a little 124 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: sax part and they go, hmmm, let's get a real 125 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: sax player, who can we call? And then luckily my 126 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: name seems to be at the top of the list, 127 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: so I get the call and I get to meet 128 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: these guys and do videos. Like the weekend, I did 129 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: this cool video with him and we were in this box, 130 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: like we ended up in this little box that I'm 131 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: playing and between the takes, he goes, you know what, 132 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: you're old enough to be my father. And I'm not 133 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: going to tell you what I said back to it, 134 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: but you know, I said, you know, you're actually right. 135 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: Did you think that was gonna make me feel good? 136 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, and like what's the point of that? 137 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: He's absolute really really cool? He kind of you said. 138 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: It kind of just ridden me a little bit, but 139 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: it's it's like, those are moments that are really fun. 140 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: To do, right, Do you have any Okay, So this 141 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: is what's your advice for young instrumentalists today breaking into 142 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: the business? Is there is there a room for it? 143 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: What would you tell them? 144 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: Okay? This is the hard part with the young young 145 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: musicians these days? Is there The problem is what we're 146 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: doing right now? So we're doing this podcast, Like I'm 147 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: in Paris, France. 148 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Where are you, by the way, I'm in southern California. 149 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm outside of Los Angeles. I'm near Malibu. 150 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: You're near Malibu? Correct? 151 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 152 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so look, this is unbelievable. I mean thirty 153 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: years ago you'd say, huh, we're at the Dick Tracy 154 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: phone where you were talking to each other. So this 155 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: is great for this, but it's also has a downside. 156 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: The downside has been all the musicians in the world 157 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: are hearing the same things. They're privy to these things. 158 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: Like when I was learning to play the sacks, if 159 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to hear something, I had to figure out 160 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: who I wanted to listen to, go to a record store, 161 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: try to find the record, go home and play it. 162 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: I didn't have anything then have a tape recorder, so 163 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: I had to listen to it, try to figure out 164 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: the notes he was playing that I liked, and then 165 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: work on it and then try to figure out what 166 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: I wanted to do with all that. So I ended 167 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: up developing a sound of my own. The young guys, 168 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: they are unbelievable technicians. Oh they play some un stuff. 169 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: I can't play some of the stuff they can play, 170 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: but they're all playing it. So is there room? Means, like, 171 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: what are you going to do that's going to stand out? 172 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: Other than you can play fast and you can play 173 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: these licks that everybodybody else has been playing. You know, 174 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: it's like it's good, it's impressive, But where's. 175 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: The where's the soul, Where's where's the pain? Where is it? 176 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: What's going on? I know? I go back and I 177 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: listened to you know, I love to cook, you know, 178 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: for my family, so I go when I'm cooking, I 179 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: put on all the old you know. I'll listen to 180 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: Eric Clapton early Clapton cream, I'll listen to the Who 181 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: early you know, yeah, and it's just and then i'm 182 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm in the gym and they have a 183 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: track on and it's a they play a track from 184 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: Who's Next and they put a drum machine on it. 185 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: And I just went up to the front desk and 186 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: I said, what is going on? Why would why would 187 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: anybody play something or remove Keith Moon from a track 188 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: and put this in to a whostle? I said, do 189 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing to me right. 190 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: You're killing me right now? 191 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: Or you know, go back and listen to old like 192 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: James Gangs has some really great live recordings, some great 193 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: blue stuff. It's just you know, these are yeah, you're right. 194 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: These are very gifted musicians who play with technical proficiency, 195 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: but it isn't about that. They have the structure. They 196 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: have the chops, but they don't let it take over, 197 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: and they play with feeling. They play just the right 198 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: note at the right time, in the right way, and 199 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: you're right. It's lost. 200 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: Like Miles Davis, you know he was when he went 201 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 2: on tour. We were we were his opening acts for 202 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: like six months. 203 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm toured with Miles Davis, not the front door. 204 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: And you would think, like, why would Miles want somebody 205 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: like me around? But hey, you know what, because I 206 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: was selling tickets. I was selling and he was the headliner, 207 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: so he was doing great. He came by my dressing 208 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: room and he said, he gives me that song you play. 209 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: The ladies really like it. Job like that. I went, 210 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: thank you, Miles, thank you very much. And it's like, okay, cool. 211 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: It's like I playing a sack differently than other people 212 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: have played it. You're doing your trumpet different you do. 213 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: You have your own sound, like my own sound, and 214 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: that you have to. You know, these young players, I 215 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: don't know if they're gonna I don't know if they 216 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: know how to. They don't even know how to get 217 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: their own sound because they're so busy trying to do 218 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: what they heard, Like, oh, I got to do what 219 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: that guy did because otherwise he's going to be better 220 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: than me. It's like I never even compared myself to anybody. 221 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: I was just trying to play. 222 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 223 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: You know. 224 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: So that's that's the advice to the young musicians. I mean, 225 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: that's not just sax players, but I think is anybody 226 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: you know? 227 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: I actually I want to answer my own question. I 228 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: have advice for young musicians. 229 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: Great. 230 00:12:54,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: Go and find a copy or listen to a recording 231 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: from a pianist named Keith Jarrett and you know what 232 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Yes, nineteen seventy five live com Germany 233 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: called The Comb Concert. It's a white album with him 234 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: on the cover. It is the most extraordinary hour plus 235 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: of piano, just solo piano music. And this is a 236 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: guy who was classically trained and was a prodigy and 237 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: walked away from it to study jazz and to do 238 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: his own thing. And it is the most powerful, the 239 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: most beautiful stuff you will ever hear on a solo. 240 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: And he's like Kenny G Level on the piano, you 241 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like creating these beautiful melodies and 242 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: riffing on all of it. I mean, it's just break 243 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: your heart to listen to it. Just beautiful. Once did 244 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: you really wear. 245 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 2: The solo shows in San Francisco? And he did that 246 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 2: thing he did he punched over the piano. Yeah, and 247 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: after the show it went backstage, not that he cared 248 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: by the way that backstage, but because of me, I 249 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: could at least get past the guards to get there 250 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: and said, you know, it's just something like, Wow, that 251 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: was really great, I said, And I asked him, I said, 252 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: so what we heard is that rehearsed he goes Absolutely 253 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: not he goes. I never I never practiced those things. 254 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: That just it's got it's got to be all improvisation. 255 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: I said, well, that's very impressive, very impressive. I was. 256 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: I was impressed. I never forgot that moment either. So 257 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: when you mentioned Keith, Jerry's like, I know what you're 258 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: talking about. 259 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean, I don't know how many times 260 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: I've listened to that album, and I just you know, 261 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: there's been a couple of decades, and then I, I 262 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: don't know, six months ago, I started listening to him 263 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: again and it just shattered me. The guy. I mean, 264 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: there's just nothing more powerful than you know, an artist 265 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: in full command of their instrument and creating in the moment. 266 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: It's just I mean, if they're if they're a genius, right, 267 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: if they're if they're a musical genius. 268 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like those like those. When I listened, I 269 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: listened to like the old jazz guys like that, and 270 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: stan Getz was is my one of my sacks. Man. 271 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: I can just listen to him all day. I do 272 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: listen to him all day. You just do it. You 273 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: always put on my kids, just go not again, I go. 274 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what. 275 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: I try to play because we play music at dinner 276 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: every night, and I lay, I lay it a little 277 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: uh because I love Pete Jolly, I love that that 278 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: that sound. I love Sweet September and all those those 279 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: great records from the what was it, late fifties, early 280 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: sixties maybe mid sixties, and I so melodic and such 281 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: songs and such great piano player. 282 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: Are you have a player or a guitar player? What 283 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: do you? What do you well? 284 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: I played piano a little bit growing up, but it's 285 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: more guitar. Yeah, yeah, I composed on guitar. 286 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: Composed. 287 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: Listen to me, I composed yeah, No, I don't compose. 288 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: I write. I try to write songs. 289 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: Have you recorded songs? Have you made recordings? 290 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I did an EP in two thousand 291 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: and seventeen. I took a serious shot at doing something 292 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: and I released a single and it actually and I 293 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: was on with Jimmy Fallon for Gilmore Girls reboot and 294 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: then he was nice enough to hold up the cover 295 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: of the single and I said, yeah, here's the single, 296 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: and on the iTunes Indie Rock Top one hundred, I 297 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: was number one for a couple about four weeks. 298 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:53,359 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. 299 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very excited about I mean, nothing ever 300 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: came of it, but you know, I thought, wow, that's 301 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: the power of you know, being on a top talk show, 302 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: right and having. 303 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 2: A I've never been on Foulon. They've never had me on. 304 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: You got one on me there, But I don't think so. 305 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 306 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: I've wanted to be on the show. They're just going 307 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: it's okay, really yeah, no, no, they're no interest in me. 308 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: But he's a music guy. He loves music. Mans man, 309 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: you should be on there. That he's he's That was 310 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: a good time. That was a good time. But yeah, 311 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: so but you know, I I write, and I have 312 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: these dreams and all that, but it's like, you know, 313 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: and I did a little tour in a coffeehouse tour 314 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen summer, but I just you know, I 315 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: had a young son, and I just I just didn't 316 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: want to be on the road, you know, I just 317 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: I it's like, this isn't this is something I should 318 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: have done a long long time ago. This is not 319 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: the time to be doing this. So I just I 320 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: just pulled the plug on it. But I love writing. 321 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: And I actually went down to Nashville. I got invited, Yeah, 322 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: Warner Chappel invite me down and they put me in 323 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: a room with some very very heavy hitters, you know, 324 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: some big time songwriters. And man was I out of 325 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: my depth. But I played them some songs and yeah, 326 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, these are these are very technically proficient, 327 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: very trained, you know writers, right, and and they were 328 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: just they were lovely to be with. And they took 329 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: a couple of my songs and did some wonderful things 330 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: with them. 331 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: That's cool. 332 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a it was a great experience. It 333 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: was a great experience. 334 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: You know. Timing is as you mentioned, timing It's really 335 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: a big factor in it all because when when I 336 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: started going on the road, I mean I was twenty 337 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: two and I had no ties to anything, and you know, 338 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: driving around the country in a van and playing clubs 339 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: and that was great. But if you if today, I 340 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: couldn't I couldn't do that today. Fortunately, I've you know, 341 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: built up so that it's a you know, my touring 342 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: is at a level that you know, it's just great. 343 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: So but it takes so many years. 344 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: To do that. 345 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: But you gotta do you gotta. It's gotta be organic. 346 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: You have to start at the at the bottom. You 347 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: have to play the little clubs and over and over 348 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: and hone your stagecraft and all that, and it takes 349 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: decades to do it, for years and years, right, you. 350 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: Know what's bad? Note today when you say that, it's 351 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: like because out of our phones, and we were talking 352 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: about modern technology, you can't really like try out stuff 353 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: because somebody's gonna record you and then it's gonna be 354 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: everywhere if you screw up. Like I was talking to 355 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: one of my comedian friends, not to name drop, but 356 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: Ray Romano is a friend because we were both golfers. 357 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: We became very good friends. And I asked him, I said, 358 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: how you know you used to think of here about 359 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: these comics that would try out a new act at 360 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: a club before they take it out like in public. 361 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: You can't do that anymore. He goes, Yeah, you can't 362 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: do that anymore. It's not the way it goes. So 363 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: it's hard to really try out stuff that you I'm 364 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: not sure is going to work because everybody's i mean, 365 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: they're they're just recording the whole show. They're not even 366 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: your phones. 367 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: They are right in front of me. 368 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: They're just Yeah, so that's a little bit. I wish 369 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: we could do no phones. Of course I'm gonna sneak 370 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: it in anyway, but if we could do that, that 371 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: would be pretty great. 372 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. The phones really take 373 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: away from the experience because they're they're not you know, 374 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: they're not applauding, they're not interacting with each other. They're 375 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: they're sort of turned into sort of cameraman they are. Yeah, 376 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's a different experience. But anyway. Yeah, So 377 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: if you're ever in La playing golf, man, I'm a 378 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: big golfer too, I'd love to play with you. 379 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: You're probably well. I used to be really good. I 380 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: used to be a plus handicap. Oh really, I was 381 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: actually a zero. I was a plus one at one point. 382 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I used to be. 383 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: But I haven't played for a couple of years. I 384 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: haven't even played, so I really probably a nine or 385 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: ten handicap at the moment. 386 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hanging right there too with you, there, bro, 387 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean I'm about that. Yeah. Great, you know I 388 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: can be Tiger Woods on some holes and Natalie Wood 389 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: on the other holes. 390 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: You know, have you played with any of the pros. 391 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: I have not. No. 392 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: Well, I played with you know, club club pros, but 393 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: not any of the people that you would know. No, 394 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: And I used to do. I used to do the 395 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: celebrity tournaments. I played a bunch of those. 396 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: I never did those celebrity tournaments. But what I was 397 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: I was invited to the eighteen t tournament up at 398 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: pebble Beat. 399 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: So, oh my god, you have to do that. 400 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: I did it. No, I already did it, like. 401 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: Some team, and I like, I played that course once, 402 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: and uh wow, what of course, it's an amazing golf course. 403 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: It's amazing to play with those guys like you know, Yeah, 404 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: I was up there with Tiger. I was up there 405 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: with Phil Nicholson, played with you know, all the young players, Rory, 406 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: I've played with, Adam Scott, I played with these guys. 407 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: They are just I don't know, to play with it. 408 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: I know they're so good. It's just like scary and you. 409 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: Think, you think they care about the way you play, 410 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: and they really don't. So I was I put a 411 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: lot of pressure on myself for no reason. But I'm 412 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: thinking they're really interested in what I play. They're not 413 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 2: interested at all, couldn't care. 414 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's like, especially Pelbye's program, it's got 415 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: to be nerve wracking. Get on a T box with 416 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: all those people and Tiger staring at Yeah, and you 417 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: got to hit a drive. You got to hit your drive. 418 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 419 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's but you know, after sixteen years you get 420 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: used to it. But at the first kind of nervous, 421 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: but after a while it's actually super grey. And then 422 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: the fun part is on the range because you're on 423 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: the range and like I'm walking by and there's Phil 424 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: Nicholson hitting golf balls, and there's Jason Day hitting golf balls, 425 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: and there's and then and you see what's one of 426 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: the friendly ones. And some of them are really friendly, 427 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: like hey, come over. Some of them just don't want 428 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: to talk. And it's fun when you get the pro 429 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: that's that's interesting, Like, Okay, how do you do this? 430 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: Chip shots? I Philip, come on, how do you do 431 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 2: that flop shot? Well, he'd show me do that? How 432 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: you do come on? Explain it? And you're a terrible 433 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: teacher he's got it. Was so fun, got to say. 434 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: They can just do it, they can just feel it 435 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: and do it. 436 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: And they can't tell you how to do it. They 437 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: can't teach it. 438 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: That's amazing. All right. So you're on tour, you're in, 439 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: you're in, you're in Paris. Tell tell me what we 440 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: can we can expect and where we can see you 441 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: coming up? 442 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: Well, go to you know, everything's on my website. But December, 443 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 2: we're more on the East coast, Midwest. You were all 444 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: over the place. And then two years I play in 445 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 2: Seattle at I do. I do one jazz club, actually 446 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: do two jazz clubs. I do Seattle Jazz Alley. We 447 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: played ten shows over five nights and New Year's Eve. 448 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: Super great, wow, fantastic, everybody. Go check out Kenny's website. 449 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: What's the website dot com Kenny G dot com, Go, 450 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: get go, get tickets, Go to this guy. He's a master, 451 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: he's a genius, and he's a pretty darn good golfer 452 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: from what I hear. Absolute pleasure. Please please please come back, 453 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: and it was a pleasure speaking to you, and keep 454 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: on keeping on. Good luck with the tour. Thank you, 455 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: thank you, and please come back and see us. All 456 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: the best to you, Kenny, You best fans on the planet. 457 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: Go to Kenny's website Kenny G dot com. Get some tickets, 458 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: Go see this guy, and I'm gonna check him out too, 459 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: because I've never seen a Kenny G show and that's 460 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: what's wrong with my life. And I gotta fix it. 461 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: You're gonna love it. It's gonna be I guarantee it. 462 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm so excited. 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