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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's a very special episode of the Almost Famous Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We are sitting in Hotel bel Air in Los Angele Angeles,

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Speaker 2: at the site of Marilyn Monroe's final photo shoot, and

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Speaker 2: I have Andrew Spencer with me. Andrew, this is the

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Speaker 2: very first time I've ever been able to interview you,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've been on this podcast, but you

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Speaker 3: were you weren't there there?

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Speaker 2: I seem to disappear when you come on. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: I want to start with this question. I just had

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Speaker 2: Becca koufern on. She was the co host last week.

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Speaker 2: Beca and I hosted Bachelor Live on stage for the

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Speaker 2: very first season of it before COVID shutdown. We talked

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Speaker 2: about a little bit with Becca. You did I believe

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Speaker 2: some guest roles season two of it, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you were going to be there for

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Speaker 2: this season in Arizona, right, yep. Unfortunately I had to

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Speaker 2: shut down. I just want to hear, like, are you

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Speaker 2: disappointed where you werelieved? I mean, there was such a

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Speaker 2: fun show to be on stage, a different energy, and

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Speaker 2: you got to do it before, right, So were you

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Speaker 2: super bummed about that?

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Speaker 3: It was kind of either either or like I was

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Speaker 3: in a spot where I had a lot of things

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Speaker 3: going on, So it was definitely one of the things

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Speaker 3: where I was like, Okay, I caught a break here

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Speaker 3: because now I can like focus on other things. But

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Speaker 3: sometimes being on a stage and just being around Becca

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Speaker 3: and everyone, it's like a really fun time and you

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Speaker 3: never know what's gonna happen in Bacheloria on stage. I

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Speaker 3: had a really good time the first time around, so

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Speaker 3: that's why I was like, yeah, I'll definitely do it again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was bummed to hear it ended because the team

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Speaker 2: there was so great. Yeah, oh yeah, and it is

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Speaker 2: a different feel, like it's so funny. And I want

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about your experience through Paradise, but

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Speaker 2: I really wanted to start with this because isn't it

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Speaker 2: interesting that you go on this show really with no

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Speaker 2: idea what to expect, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: you find yourself on stage, sometimes in front of thousands

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Speaker 2: of people with a skill set that.

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Speaker 5: They don't prep you for like you have.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the fans that they were watching, they love you, right,

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Speaker 2: They're celebrating either cheering for you. They're so happy to

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Speaker 2: see you. But behind the curtain. I remember talking to

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Speaker 2: Becca being like, I don't know how to do this,

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Speaker 2: Like I have no skill set when it comes to

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Speaker 2: hosting a stage show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my first time.

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Speaker 3: And I was like they're like screaming like here's your Bachelor,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, yeah, and I'm like

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Speaker 3: waving and just kind of like hiding behind Becca. And

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Speaker 3: that's also that helped me, Like if I didn't have Becca,

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Speaker 3: I would have been screwed.

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Speaker 3: Of like she took the took the wheel of the

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Speaker 3: whole show, and I just kind of followed her and

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Speaker 3: kind of made it easier for me. And I feel

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Speaker 3: like once you were on the Bachelor, you kind of

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Speaker 3: understand that, like you could do anything because like if

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Speaker 3: you can withstand like the the social media aspect of

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Speaker 3: the Bachelor, everything else just comes easy and you're just

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Speaker 3: not nervous about anything because you know people have already

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Speaker 3: said things about you. Talk more about that, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean like your confidence is through the roof. For one,

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Speaker 3: you got a bunch of people you don't know who say, oh,

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Speaker 3: you're this, you're that, You're great, and also you get

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Speaker 3: the you get both ends. And I've been an athlete

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Speaker 3: my whole life, so you know, criticism is about your job, and.

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Speaker 4: When you get so much of it, you get so

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Speaker 3: And then like at this point, you like it doesn't

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Speaker 4: I have to do.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of how I looked at it, And

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Speaker 3: it was like very easy for me. Once I got going,

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Speaker 3: I was like, all right, well, if they don't like it,

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Speaker 3: that's on them, you know what I mean. If they

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Speaker 4: So that's kind of how I looked at it.

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Speaker 2: As I don't know if anybody has ever said you

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Speaker 2: gonna have you, We're gonna have Nay, we're gonna have Justin.

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Speaker 2: But but we've got you right now. And your personality

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Speaker 2: has always been one that I feel like has brought

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Speaker 2: it's been a parent that people like whatever it is

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Speaker 2: because there is a joy coming out of you has

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Speaker 2: find that out about yourself from the show.

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's always been that way.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it comes from my mom though,

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Speaker 3: you know, uggling growing up, I think the one thing

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Speaker 3: that she always did was do everything with a smile.

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Speaker 4: So we had like the best times, even though we didn't.

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Speaker 3: Even realize, like we weren't in a good spot like

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Speaker 3: like I have all these and competition wise, I'm like

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Speaker 3: I just do that, everything else feels better around. You know,

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Speaker 3: bring that, you know, just happiness even when things are bad.

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Speaker 2: A question I'm want to ask all of the guys

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Speaker 2: that are here right now It's something I'm super curious with.

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Speaker 2: You guys came off of your season. You guys have

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Speaker 2: been friends. It happens every season, you know. I've seen

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Speaker 2: fourteen seasons now since my time on the Bachelor come through.

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Speaker 2: I know, dude, I'm getting home and I'm still only

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Speaker 2: thirty four, right, I'm thirty four?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh wow, I know. Really, don't be surprised.

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Speaker 2: You're sitting next to twenty twenty five, oh man, twenty six,

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Speaker 2: twenty six, and twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: So I turned twenty six when I was the Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: But every season, and I've kept some good friends from

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It feels like this isn't like a temporary thing. This

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Speaker 2: same events. We're going to the same like, you know,

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Speaker 2: friends outside of what Why?

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Speaker 5: Like? What what's been the secret? Sauce?

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, you just find some people who

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Speaker 3: have an incredible time together. I Mean we laugh so much,

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Speaker 3: Like why would I trade that away for anything. And

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Speaker 3: then with family matters, like they've they've all come to

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Speaker 3: And I don't think a lot of my other guys

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Speaker 3: know exactly what I'm going through and what I'm thinking,

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Speaker 3: moving in with Justin didn't have any idea what was

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's not gonna change. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I don't hate the word vulnerable. In fact, it is

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Speaker 2: a great characteristic that comes from the show. You know,

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Speaker 2: and so you kind of get used to not being vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: You know, I have a wife that I am vulnerable around,

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Speaker 2: but my buddies maybe not as much anymore. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: missed that because there was that those shared experiences with

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Speaker 2: the show that helped you open up. Well, you had to,

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Speaker 2: you know, you really had a great run on the Bachelorette,

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Speaker 2: but then you kind of catapulted yourself into Paradise. Uh

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Speaker 2: and I think that's really where you found uh well,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Paradise is the spot where people get

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Speaker 3: to know your personality bit more. I feel like on

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Speaker 3: So it was fun to just kind of be able

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Speaker 3: like why we are who we are. Paradise was tough

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Speaker 5: You know why was it tough explain?

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Speaker 2: You know, not I'm going to ask you for trying

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Speaker 3: Is U is hard in paradise. You know, there's so

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Speaker 3: many different avenues you get, weather concerns you got, yeah

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Speaker 3: it was definitely tough, but you know, I think it

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Speaker 2: Well, it feels like and as we prep for this,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people were curious about your relationship with Teddy.

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Speaker 2: Teddy recently has said that the producers kind of pushed

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Speaker 2: her to only have a relationship with you. YEA, when

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Speaker 2: you heard this, how does that make you feel? What's

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Speaker 2: your response?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: Mean months removed, right, but still how does that feel?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it's weird, Like if the

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Speaker 3: producers did do that, I would just be like, damn,

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Speaker 3: like why couldn't you just tell me? Or why couldn't

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Speaker 3: she just tell me that she was interested in someone else?

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Speaker 3: So I think for me, I was just like, if

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Speaker 3: it's not if you're not feeling something, just talk to me,

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Speaker 3: or I wouldn't. I would hope no one would force

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Speaker 3: me on someone. I feel like I'm a lot better

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Speaker 3: than better than.

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Speaker 2: That yeah, you know, nobody in the room though. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: your buddies are sitting there stairs. No you are, though,

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, And I think if if that was

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Speaker 2: the case, some honesty there would have been nice because

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Speaker 2: it probably would allowed you to be have a little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would have I feel like I would

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Speaker 5: Well? Are you out there dating?

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Speaker 5: How does a guy like you.

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Speaker 2: Go out on the town in Chicago or la or

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of patience, man, It's a lot of

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Speaker 4: No, no, I shoot shots. I mean, I'm not worried

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Speaker 5: So are you a ghoster? I'm I'm like a shame.

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Speaker 5: No, I like this, keep going.

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Speaker 4: I may talk too much. So she's probably like, get

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Speaker 5: Your buddies love this.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah they felt that one.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, final call me Joe from you. I

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Speaker 2: It sounds like doing that like we all do. Will

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Speaker 4: It's a possibility.

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Speaker 3: I don't think this year, but that's if the show

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Speaker 3: It just didn't work for me last time.

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Speaker 5: So we've been talking.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of incredible people that I think will

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Speaker 3: I thought Zach had an incredible cast. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: I mean, so I'm not like putting in one person name.

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Speaker 2: Andrew, you're not gonna be in Paradise. It doesn't sound

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Speaker 2: like you're single. You're out here in LA right now.

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Speaker 2: What is next for you in life? What can people

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Speaker 2: how can people find you not? Just a lot of

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Speaker 2: different things out here are next for me. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: I got some big things planned, but for for now,

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Speaker 3: You know, Instagram, TikTok, That's probably where I'll be.

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Speaker 2: So you're pursuing that hosting is kind of the lane

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so hosting any kind of entertainment avenues. I've been

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Speaker 4: If one lands, which is the best.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate yous for coming on. Thanks, It's a pleasure,

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Speaker 2: super fun. You didn't even know you're gonna be on

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Speaker 2: I tell you what your buddies in the room. I'm

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Speaker 5: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, this has been another special episode of the Almost

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Speaker 2: Famous Podcast. Andrew Spencer, thank you for joining us. Until

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