1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Him, Mark Zuckerberg, Welcome to the podcast where we talk 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: about the Metaverse. I enjoy barbecue sauce. And that doesn't 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: that Mark Zuckerberg like that was pretty good? That that 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: is that is SNL worthy. Thank you, Garrison, because it's 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: because it's so bad. Alright, um now that was my 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: own big goal. This is this is part two of 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: the metaverse that never was um here at it could 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: happen here and we're actually gonna be talking about like that. 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: It couldn't wait until we launch portions of the show 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: and pretend we never said all this ship. It's going 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: to be the best Garrison, you know, Robert, remember remember 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: when I was talking about um Seek City and all 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: of the virtual venues. I just, I just I just 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: got a message from our beloved parent company. I heart Media. 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: We planned to extend UM shows into the Metaverse, which 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: was which was announced a few weeks ago. Garrison but 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: always thought that the Metaverse was a pretty good idea. 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: I think we we will talk about how the metaverse 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: could be cool later in this episode, but then we'll 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: explain why it won't be. But yeah, I heard Media 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: did announce the Web three in the Metaverse and the 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: newest consumer platforms for I heart media. So sorry, I'm 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: I was just working. It's I mean, it's working in 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: a matrix for reference there, so yes, I see what 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: thank you. UM. Anyway, so I'm guessing for non Neil 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Stevenson fans, many of you probably had not heard of 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: the metaverse before last year. UM VR. Sure you've heard 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: of VR a R maybe, UM, but probably just as 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: like niche gaming technology, you know, not not this massive, 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: not not like a massive successor to the Internet. UM. 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Primarily three companies, Facebook, Epic Games, and Valve. Uh, the 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: later two being mostly gaming and software companies. UM. Kind 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: of all decided the best way to push their niche 34 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: VR and software technology into the zeitgeist was with this 35 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: flashy new marketing, and it kind of worked metaversus now 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: and many more people's like personal lexicon, But it's not 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: really the metaverse, you know, like the Walmart thing. It's 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: a way to attract investors and drum up free press, 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: but it's still the same old VR and are applications 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: of the technology. None of these companies are trying to 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: make metaverse a thing that we actually want or you know, 42 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: working towards an interconnected immersive three D open source successor 43 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: to the Internet, All of the different websites and services 44 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: we use united under one digital roof, like a super 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: platform that you know, is made up of all of 46 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: these sub platforms. You know, you have social media, online gaming, 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: and all of like the you know, ease of life apps, 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: all accessible through the same digital space, under the same 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: digital economy. That that thing isn't happening. People like that. 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: That's not what people with money are actually pushing towards, 51 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: even though they're still using the metaverse term. Um. There 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: was a great piece in Wired that came out last month. 53 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: It's a part of their Matrix VR issue. UM. It 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: was called the metaverse is simply big tech but bigger. 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: It was by a Cecilia di'antazio. It was so it's 56 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: it's a wonderful piece and I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: gonna say a quote from it right here. UM. By 58 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: the mid two thousands, it became clear that money wasn't 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: in building individual websites that we could access on the 60 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: open Web. It was making information sorders, channels, aggregators, and 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: publishers open enough to scale with user generated content, but 62 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: closed enough to reap enormous profits. This was the evolution 63 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: from Web one to Web two for nearly thirty years. 64 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: The gravity of the consolidation has pulled the cyberspace together 65 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: under the auspice of fewer and fewer corporate titans. The 66 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: freaky little planets get drawn together, collide and make bigger 67 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: planets call again and make stars or even black holes. 68 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Facebook Eats, Instagram, and WhatsApp. Amazon swallows two dozen e 69 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: commerce sites, and you're left with these few supermassive players 70 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: controlling and appropriating the celestial motion of billions of users. 71 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: This is how big tech got big end quote. So yeah, 72 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: like now we have all of our isolated toolboxes, and 73 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: they really fight against any inter platform integration. You have 74 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: you know Microsoft Office and they're they're like off their 75 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: office suite. You have like Google Workspace, you have Apple's 76 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: own like air Drop, Apple Pages, and finally cut Pro, 77 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: plus the the nightmare that is Adobe's subscription tools. Like 78 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: Google wants you to spend all day checking your Gmail, 79 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: traveling with Google Maps, watching videos on YouTube, and browsing 80 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: on Chrome. Meanwhile, your friend texts you via I Message, 81 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: uses Apple Maps, and calls his mom on FaceTime. This 82 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: is the single person in the world uses Microsoft Edge. 83 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: That is true, but like this, this form of the 84 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Internet is the one that the metaverse is growing out of. 85 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Metavers is just a way for tech companies to add 86 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: VR and a R and the accompanying extra surveillance and 87 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: data collection to this poor foot to like their own 88 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: portfolio of proprietary products. In order for that to happened, 89 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: they need to convince us that we need headsets for 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: the next evolution of the Internet. So it's not surprising 91 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: that Facebook and Zuckerberg were the first ones to crack 92 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: this thing right open. It's they own not only four 93 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: of the top six social media platforms, but also Oculus, 94 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: which is the most popular manufacturer of VR hardware. VR 95 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: has been relegated to niche gaming technology for like basically 96 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: two decades, and Zuckerberg decided the best way to sell 97 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: more of its headsets and software was to give the 98 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: tech a fresh new paint job and call it metaverse. 99 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: And like it's sort of working that There were approximately 100 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: nine point four million shipment severe headsets in two thousand one, 101 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: three point six million of which were done during the 102 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: holiday season after Facebook's big Metaverse event. It's suspected that 103 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: the quest to which is made by Oculus a Facebook um, 104 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: makes up for more than three quarters of all those 105 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: headsets sold, So the Democrat demographics data isn't explicitly available, 106 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: but probably a lot of kids received these things as 107 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: holiday gifts um Oculus Meta. Facebook does not release its 108 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: VERR headset sales figures, but the Oculus app that that 109 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: you need to have to make the headset work shot 110 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: to the top spot in Apple's App Store on Christmas Day. 111 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: That was the first time it's ever been in the 112 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: number one app on the App Store, so indicating a 113 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: spike and headsets received as holiday gifts. So they're selling 114 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: a lot of headsets, like Oculus is is selling a 115 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: lot of their things. Like you know, I I got 116 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: one a few years ago, but you know, now there's 117 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: there's there's more and more of them circulating UM. But 118 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: you know this, it's still all relegated to VR because 119 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm not actually metaverse. You know, arguably the closest thing 120 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: we have to the actual metaverse is stuff like Roadblocks 121 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: and Minecraft. Now that is still not that's not immersive 122 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: three D. It's you're still looking at it through a 123 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: two D screen, But it is software that gives users 124 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: development tools to create their own projects within this shared 125 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: three D space. What separates these things and basically all 126 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: attempts from making the metaverse from being the ideal metaverse 127 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: is still the proprietary aspect. Everything is isolated islands. You 128 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: can't take your Roadblocks game into Minecraft, right, It still 129 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: is isolated to their specific things. But you know. Nevertheless, 130 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: robox Is CEO described the company as the shepherds of 131 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: the metaverse in early and he is kind of right, like, 132 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: that's not that's not totally inaccurate. Um, I'm gonna quote 133 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: again from the Wired piece by Cecilia di'antasio. Um, if 134 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: big text unchecked growth continues, there will be multiple metaversees, 135 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: if there are any at all, Each will be interoperable 136 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: under one Tech giants giant umbrella. The same way Apple 137 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: is both a walled garden and a convenient, habitable terrarium 138 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: for its dedicated consumers. Users love the seamlessness of Apple's 139 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: proprietary off proating system, the ambiguity of my message, and 140 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Apple presumably loves the commission it can charge on developers 141 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: who sell apps in their app store. So Epic Games 142 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: is the other big metaverse proponent right now, you know 143 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: they were. They were actually making announcements about metaverse a 144 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: few months before Facebook did UM and the c a 145 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: l Epic Games. Tim sween Ley has been outspoken against 146 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: the metaverse ran by a big tech giant like Apple. 147 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: But that's not that's not really genuine because his version 148 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: of the metaverse entails of cyberspace made accessible through Fortnite 149 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: and Unreal Engine, two things owned by Epic Games. So like, 150 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: it's not like he's not actually sincere about creating an 151 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: open source thing. He just wants to be the one 152 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: to control it. He's just upset that he thinks someone 153 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: else might. Um. He tried to sue Apple last year 154 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: and and failed. UM and the College Fornia judge told 155 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: him that Epic Games seeks a systematic change which would 156 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: result in a tremendous monetary gain and wealth. The lawsuit 157 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: is a mechanism to challenge the policies and practices of 158 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: Apple and Google, which are an impediment to Mr Sweeney's 159 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: vision of the oncoming metaverse. So it's not actually about 160 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: like him being against big tech giants and being against 161 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: a big tech giant wren Metaverse. It's just that he 162 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: doesn't like that he won't be able to make as 163 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: much money with it if multiple tech companies work together 164 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: to make it, Like that's that's that's really what he's 165 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: concerned about. He would rather be in control of this thing, 166 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: um because like, yeah, it would be really interesting to 167 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: see if multiple tech giants work together to create an 168 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: actual successor to the Internet, like an actual like you 169 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: know how the Internet is just when you open up 170 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: your computer and you have access to the net. It's 171 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: not it's it's not like running a specific program you 172 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: get to go on all the things. It would be 173 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: interesting if people actually work towards creating that. But no, 174 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: it's all about creating very isolated operating systems with a 175 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: very isolated tool like tool chest. Like you can't access 176 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: Steam games via the Oculus store. These things don't These 177 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: things don't work. Now you can Oculus, you can use 178 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: the Oculus on Steam games, but not vice versa. They're 179 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: making things the way they're making things because they're not 180 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: trying to design a new Internet because for one thing, 181 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: the Internet wasn't designed. It was like the result of 182 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: a bunch of people who were doing things that interested them. 183 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: All kind of intersecting and building upon each other. And second, 184 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: like they're in they're not They're making individual profit tunnels. 185 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: They're not actually trying to create. Um, they're not trying 186 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: to like actually trying to think about what people might 187 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: want next, or what people might might want beyond the Internet. 188 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: They're thinking, how what can we sell that we're not 189 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: currently selling? And that's never going to be the thing 190 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: that figures out. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. On on 191 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: that point, I'm gonna do one final quote from the 192 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: Wired piece. Um, if if these companies dominating Cyberus Space 193 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: did decide to collaborate simultaneously, piecing together opposite sides of 194 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: the quilt to create a digital tech style, that would 195 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: be very polite. But is there a world in which Microsoft, Facebook, 196 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: Epic Games, Apple, uh Navidia, etcetera combine all of their 197 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: valuable products captain planet style into an architect of the 198 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: metaverse under open source standards? Nobody in particular roops billions 199 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: from That's sort of a tall task to overhaul your 200 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: code and collaborate with your competitors. Why would three or 201 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: four tech giants partner to make a metaverse when they 202 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: already spent decades and billions constructing one of their own. 203 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's never gonna happen the way the 204 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: way society is made, the way internetworks, that's not ever 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: going to be a thing. Speaking of companies and things 206 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: that you can buy online and advertising, here's some ads 207 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: and we're back and we're gonna talk about possibly the 208 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: most successful version of air of of VR technology. We'renna 209 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: talk about the actual use cases that are generating actual profit. 210 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: So there is a there was a tweet a few 211 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: days ago that I'm just gonna read the tweet and 212 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: then then we'll talk about the implications. Um, this one 213 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: very very viral. UM. I caught this very early on, though, 214 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: and I started writing about it, and then a whole 215 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: bunch of articles dropped on the topic. A farmer in 216 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: Turkey has fitted his cows with the virtual reality goggles 217 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: to make them think they're outside in summer pastures. The 218 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: farmer found out that these pleasant scenes make the cows 219 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: happier and produce more milk. Futures metaverse, So we're gonna 220 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: talk We're gonna talk about the cow may tricks. We're 221 00:12:52,280 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: gonna talk about Yeah, yeah, it is. It is to 222 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: go back in time and tell people, Hey, you know 223 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: that hit movie The Matrix in the future, We're going 224 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: to do that, but for more milk to get So. 225 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: The thing that went viral about it that kind of 226 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: broke the story for a lot of people was this 227 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: farmer in Turkey with the pictures of the cows with 228 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: VR goggles on them. Pretty pretty pretty fucked up. Um. 229 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: But the idea and the actual technology used came from 230 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 1: came from Russia. UM. Farmers worked together with developers of 231 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: veterinarians and consultants at the Oh boy, here here's a 232 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: Russian town name, or I guess a farm name, krag skernof. 233 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, that sounds right. It's that. I 234 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: think we can we can? Were we I think you 235 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: nailed it. It's it's it's this farm near Moscow. UM 236 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: and they teamed up so all least you know, farmers, 237 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: developers and vets and consultants teamed up to make this 238 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: cow Matrix project UM And there was an official statement 239 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: from the Moscow Ministry of Food and Agriculture reads the 240 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: global trend towards universal computerization. The significant significantly simplifies work 241 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: processes in many areas that and allows you to achieve 242 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: unprecedented results. Russian milk producers keep up with the world 243 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: standards and are even ready to offer the market new 244 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: and unexpected solutions. On a farm in the Moscow region, 245 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: a prototype of virtual reality glasses were tested to improve 246 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: the conditions for keeping cows. Employees of one of the 247 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: largest farms in the Moscow region, together with i T specialists, 248 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: decided to conduct an experiment studying the influence of virtual 249 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: reality and developed a layout of VR glasses. So the 250 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: herd donned these VR systems adapted for the heads of cows. 251 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: Um so. And they also had to they had to 252 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: to to make the imagery work. They need to tweak 253 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: the color palette in the software to make it suitable 254 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: for the cow's vision, because cows can't see rudder green, 255 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: so there's just shades of yellow and blue. So in 256 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: order to replicate what grass click to them, they have 257 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: to you know, change the stuff. Um but yeah, and 258 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: then they programmed a unique summer field simulation program and 259 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: subjected it onto these cows. Uh. The ministry, the Russian 260 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: Ministry of Our Culture concluded that the cow matrix does work. Um. 261 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: In a statement from a few a few years ago, 262 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: officials said environmental conditions have significant have a significant impact 263 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: on cow health and as a consequence, the quality and 264 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: quantity of milk produced. So you know, like this is 265 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: the thing. I I talked with, um, someone I know 266 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: about this, and they're like, well, if it makes the 267 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: cow like actually happier and healthier than like, what's the problem. 268 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: And like the problem is is that like you're gas 269 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: lighting and entire creature's reality. Like you're like you're you're 270 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: you're like not consentually cast lighting their reality. And I 271 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: that is I don't like that. I don't everything is 272 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: without their consent. So I it's one of those things 273 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: where it's like we're also not gaslighting their reality and 274 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: this like we're not depriving their senses of what the 275 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: world is. No, this seems like an escalation in our 276 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: war on the cow. Yeah, so you know this other 277 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: farmer in Turkey heard about this and decided to try 278 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: it out on his cows. Um, And yeah, the funked 279 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: up Cow Matrix or the Cow Tricks does seem to 280 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: do its job extracting more milk from the cow to 281 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: increase profitability. Quote from quote from the farmer said, uh, 282 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: we get an average of two liters of milk per 283 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: day from the cows in our farm. The milk average 284 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: of the two cows that wore the VR glasses went 285 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: up to twenty seven liters. So yeah, when when When 286 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: the story first broke there was the most popular article 287 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: was from a site called Futurism, which made made me 288 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: made me very depressive about about futurism of depressed atism Garrison. Yeah, 289 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: and it made me mad enough that I'm going to 290 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: read some of its to you. Thank god I haven't 291 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: been naming green seconds. That cows produced more milk when 292 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: VR makes them think they're in beautiful green pastures proves 293 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: that keeping them in agriculture environments isn't healthy, nor does 294 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: it make them happy. Putting them in a cow matrix 295 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: does sound a little grim, yes, but you can't argue 296 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: with the results. Oh my god, I can't. I say 297 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: you actually care if all this has shown is that, 298 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: like potentially, if you put cows in this thing during 299 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: the winter, when it's not sunny and bright outside, then 300 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: they are happier. This is not shown that, for example, 301 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: taking all cows out of pastures and sticking them in 302 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: matrix boxes would make them because the thing is they're 303 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: not they're on pastures. They're in little jail cells with 304 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: VR goggles on their head. So like it's that that 305 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: was that was the use case. And like the quote 306 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: from the farmers, like they're watching green pasture and it 307 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: gives them an emotional boost. They are less stressed. Um, 308 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: and the farmers that he plans to be plans to 309 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: buy ten more. It's like you can spend thousands of 310 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: dollars on specialized cal VR headsets, um, or you can 311 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, like use that money to buy more land 312 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: for the cows to spread out. And if we're at 313 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: that point in society that in order to make in 314 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: order to in order to make enough cow milk, we 315 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: need to gaslight cows by overruling their senses with a 316 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: clunky of your headset on their little fuzzy faces, maybe 317 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: we should start having milk. Maybe we should like maybe 318 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: that's it, like if we require this to have milk 319 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: in our cereal, then nope, no more, not not gonna. 320 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I refuse. That's not like 321 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: it's already And if you practice, if you don't buy 322 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: milk like like locally from a farm, you know, so 323 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: if we're doing this that just like immediately checks me 324 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: out of every like, no, I'm just fully fully not. Yeah, 325 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of evil. I think that's kind 326 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: of evil. Like the whole industry way by which we 327 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: produce meat at scale is pretty evil. But that's an escalation. 328 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: It's it's the specific thing of like of of of 329 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: overruling their reality and senses um of another living creature 330 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: like that is for some reason, for some reason that 331 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: puts them into a way in order for you to 332 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: get like meat, And that's just like turning them into food, 333 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: but like making their living really shitty and then making 334 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: trying to trick them to thinking they're not. Yeah, it's 335 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: even worse than just having them live in shitty conditions, 336 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: I think from an standpoint, and maybe it's more pleasant 337 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: for the animal, but from like our standpoint, it's worse 338 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: to me. Yep. So speaking of uh, I don't know, 339 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: don't is there some segment that we can work this in? 340 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: You know, what does essentially force you to live in 341 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: an alternate reality that allows you to be more productive 342 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: for the people who make money based on your existence 343 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: buying these products and services that supporting this podcast. I 344 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: was just gonna say podcasts in general do that. But yes, 345 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: also cool. All right, we are back and my last, 346 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: my last big section here is titled we are the Cows. 347 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: So this is that's gonna that's gonna give you a 348 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: sense of how of how we're going to talk about 349 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: what so what what what The cow Tricks really demonstrates, though, 350 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: is that the end goal of all this is to 351 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: make us the cow, right, you know we we and 352 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: we already are to some degree with like the Internet 353 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: and smart and smartphones. But this is more. This is 354 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: an escalation, right Like the people, the ghoules, that Silicon 355 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Valley and you know, the whole tech world want. They 356 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: want a world where we are forced to down hardware 357 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: rigs that block out our body's senses and replace the 358 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: input with digital coded counterfeit. That's that's an Internet that 359 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: tries to convey intoe that you're inside of it and 360 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: it is inside of you. That that's that's that's that 361 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: is what they want. Really, Like, even if we get 362 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: the metaverse that I would prefer, you know, like the 363 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: mythical open source, interconnected successor to the Internet, with all 364 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: these different websites, tools and games that I like all 365 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: together and intuitively accessible through a share digital space. Even 366 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: if we get that like, which we won't. And if 367 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: there's safeguards to protect digital privacy that are built in, 368 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: which there wouldn't be, that doesn't actually make the real 369 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: world much better. Like in my opinion, air technology specifically 370 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: could be really cool, um, but but redesigning the world 371 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: to require headsets, goggles or air glasses would suck like 372 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: now would not only for people who can't get a 373 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: technology right if if we redesign the world to be 374 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: like the only way to interact with systems is through 375 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: this digital lens, that's gonna suck. We we now, we 376 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: already had that to some degree with smartphones and the Internet, 377 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: but this is another escalation of it. And again, like 378 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: like the cow, it's just gonna be a way to 379 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: paint for our elite capitalist climate disaster of a world. Uh. 380 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: Metaverse is a tech capitalist solution to our current and 381 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: pressing political and ontological problems. And I have used the 382 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: bathroom really badly. Well, I'll talk for a little while. 383 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: I think a big part of what Garrison is saying 384 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: is that instead of relying on these tech industry ghoules 385 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: to build the future for you, which is a future 386 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: in which they sell you a way to hide from 387 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: the hell that they have made of the world and 388 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: others like them have made of the world. Instead of 389 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: doing that, you've just spend the rest of your life 390 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: listening to podcasts. Put put blinders on over your eyes, 391 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: cover up all of your senses but your ears, and 392 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: just exist forever in a concoon made entirely of my voice, 393 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: and occasionally Garrison and Chris's and Sophie's voice, but mainly 394 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: my voice. And you're saying, not listen to just any 395 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: podcast but podcasts that you benefit from. I don't think 396 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: people should listen to any podcasts that I don't do. 397 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: That doesn't seem right. So where's my angle on that? Huh? 398 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, I don't know how long we 399 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: should vamp. While Garrison just leaves in the middle. I 400 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: really needed to I really needed to see. Well, it's okay. 401 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: I just told everybody that we're the metaverse now, Garrison Archie. 402 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: I drank so much coffee this morning. It was a problem. Okay, 403 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: And similar to all this, you know, remember the John 404 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: Carmike interview from Yes That's such a bummer. The Doom 405 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: co creator and former CTO of Ovoculus. Yes, these bodies 406 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: are a curse. John on the journoun Show he openly said, 407 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: the problems of yours to make the world you wanted. 408 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: It is not possible on earth to give everyone what 409 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: they would want. Not everyone can have Richard Branson private islands. 410 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: People react negatively to any talking of economics, but it's 411 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: a resource allocation. You have to make decisions about where 412 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: things go. Economically, you can deliver a lot more value 413 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: to a lot more people. In the virtual sense, we 414 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: can have virtual devices that can get cheap enough that 415 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: lots and lots of people will be able to have these. 416 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: Not everyone can have a mention. Not everyone can have 417 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: a home theater. These are things we can simulate, though 418 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: to some degree in virtual reality, and the simulation is 419 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: not as good as the as the real thing. If 420 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: you're rich, you probably have your own home theater or 421 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: mentioned in private island. Good for you. You're probably not 422 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: the people who's going to benefit the most from this thing. 423 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: Most of the people in the world lived in cramped 424 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: quarters and are not and they wouldn't that, and that's 425 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: not what they would choose to be. And if they 426 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: had a limited resources. There's this piece of art that 427 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: goes around the internet. It's the this dystopian kid in 428 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: a corner drooling with goggles on, with like rainbow pictures. 429 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: But it's a terrible looking place. And people say, this 430 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: is the world you're trying to build, People plugged into 431 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: virtual reality and ignoring the world around them, And Carmacs 432 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: responses and encouraging. He says, but is his life really 433 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: better off if he takes the goggles off and he's 434 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: in the horrible place? So I I think Carmack really 435 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: has convinced himself that virtual reality is a path to 436 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: making the world a better place. In the interview, he 437 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: compares VR to the invention of like air conditioning. He says, like, 438 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: I live in Dallas, it's a hundred degrees here. We 439 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: change the world around us in all that we do. 440 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: We live in air conditioning. People don't generally go, oh, 441 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: you're not experiencing the world around you because of air conditioning. 442 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: This is what human beings do. We bend the world 443 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: to our will, and this is how things get better 444 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: by building, by building technology and distributing them to people 445 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: so that they have something better than what we would 446 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: they would have if they didn't exist. Now, if you 447 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: dig into what he's saying, here's actually a few interesting things. 448 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: Because the one, yeah, air conditioning is actually kind of bad, 449 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: like the way we're using it and what I represents 450 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: it is a band aid solution to our continual problem 451 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: of heating up the earth, and it's making the problem 452 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: worse every single day. Yeah, and honestly it's it's yeah, 453 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a band aid that also makes 454 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: the problem worse because a C contributes to a lot 455 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: of energy human shit. But you know, air conditioning is 456 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: also an actual material change, right like it can it 457 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: can actually help people not die due to heat. The 458 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: Metaverse and VR has talked about does not improve a 459 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: middle to lower class person's material conditions, and to say 460 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: so demonstrates how disconnected these tech bros are from a 461 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: regular person's reality. The Metaverse and VR and like virtual 462 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: worlds are going to be built based on the perception 463 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: of reality held by those who create them. That's why 464 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: we're getting shitty digital private movie theaters, fake mansions, and 465 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: metaverse concerts and h and M n F T stores. 466 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: They're giving us a simulated version of the world that 467 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: they actually get to live in for real. But we 468 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: can refuse this. We we don't need to take them 469 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: up on this offer. If we're gonna be stuck with 470 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: with multiple proprietary branded metaverses that are made by rich 471 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: tech bros to mirror a world that the that the 472 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: rich tech bro gets to live in, the best thing 473 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: we can do is funk with it. We can saboage 474 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: it from the inside. We need to spam floating dicks 475 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: at a metaverse concert. This is the actual thing that 476 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: needs to happen, because, like we all know, terrorism is fun, right, 477 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: everybody loves terrorism, but there's horrible consequences for doing it 478 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: in the real world. In the metaverse, there's no laws 479 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: against terrorism. Yet you can terrorize however you want in 480 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: the metaverse and it's just trolling and that's fine, So 481 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: do that much of it as possible until they make 482 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: it illegal. The concept that would go really well with 483 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: this type of thing is the poet terrorism. Concept of 484 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: this applies like perfectly to this idea of how we 485 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: need to funk with these digital spaces that are trying 486 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: to be created, because yeah, like they're like they're pretty bad. 487 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: During one bitcoin consumed all of the electrical energy um 488 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: by equivalent to a country like Argentina. UM. The bitcoin 489 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: network handled like nineties seven million transactions, so this is 490 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: roughly zero point zero one two per cent of the 491 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: worldwide volume of non cash transactions. But bitcoin was responsible 492 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: for zero point five four of global electricity consumption on total, 493 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: which is astronomical, Like that's all, like, that's it's this 494 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: ridiculous on average, that's like, uh, like thirteen hundred kill 495 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: about hours poor per bitcoin transaction, which is so much energy. 496 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: The power consumed by a single bitcoin transaction on average 497 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: could power an average US household for one and a 498 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: half months. It's it is ridiculous how much and how 499 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: much it's getting used. And they're trying to build, you know, 500 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: like the sex City thing. They're trying to build this 501 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: metaverse off of crypto, which they're like, I'm sad because 502 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: like crypto could be really similar to the metaverse. Crypto 503 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: could be really rad Like crypto could be an actually 504 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: super red thing, but the way it's being used right 505 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: now is really environmentally damaging. UM and this this linking 506 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: of Web three, you know, the mythical Web three and 507 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: the metaverse to crypto is showing like, yeah, it's it's 508 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: is kind of like the band Aid solution, where it's 509 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: not it's it's, it's not it's not actually fixing the problem, 510 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: and it's kind of making the problem worse because they're 511 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: so set on linking it to crypto right now that 512 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: it's it sucks like it's it's, it's, it's gonna happen. 513 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna suck. What you can do is you can 514 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: spam Final Fantasy seven porn, you can spam Son of 515 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: the Hedgehog feet picks. This is this is the only 516 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: tool we have. But save for actual terrorism, which we're 517 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: not gonna talk about on this podcast, you can, but 518 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: we can't talk about poetic terrorism. That is something that 519 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: you can do. You can funk with these systems from 520 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: the inside and make them unusable. And that's that's really 521 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: the only thing. And that's what I'm gonna do in 522 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: my spare time, because it's fine, Yeah, um do do 523 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: poetic terrorism in the metaverse. Um, go funk it up 524 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: for them, um. And maybe in the process, here's my dream, Garrison, 525 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: that perhaps in the process of sucking it up for them, 526 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: we build something that we actually like. That's the thing right. Yeah, 527 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: that is similar to how the Internet kind of got 528 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: originally created. Of course, now it's turned into this hellscape. 529 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: But that'll probably that will probably happen anyway ten years 530 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: or more for the metal, But we can get a 531 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: little bit of fun out of it and we can 532 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: have some fun with it like we did on the 533 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Internet for a couple of years. Uh huh, it all 534 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: got real bad. So that is that is the metaverse 535 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't exist. Um and yeah, so fight against the 536 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: cow may tricks as best as you can do your best, 537 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: pull them out, build the city for the cows in 538 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: the center of the world. Make a cow's eye on. 539 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: It's up to us. This is depressing, all right. That's 540 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: the episode. It Could Happen Here is a production of 541 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from cool zone Media, 542 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: visit our website cool zone media dot com, or check 543 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: us out on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 544 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to podcasts. 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