Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 1: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
Speaker 1: a sibling Railvalry.
Speaker 3: No, no, sibling, you don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: It's Oliver Hudson here on the podcast Sibling Rail already,
Speaker 1: and i'd like to introduce my guests today, Oliver Hudson. Hey, Oliver,
Speaker 1: how are you. I'm good. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: of course. I'm really interested in your sort of career
Speaker 1: and growing up with your family and uh yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we can we can talk about that. Okay, great, I
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna shy away from that. Noah, no, no,
Speaker 1: I love my family. I respect my family. Yeah, go ahead, shoot, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll start with the first question. What does it feel
Speaker 1: like to be the least successful family member? Wow? So
Speaker 1: you're just gonna go right there. Well, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you talk about it, you know, in the press lot. No,
Speaker 1: I know. Well, uh, it's just is what it is,
Speaker 1: you know what. I don't want to do this podcast anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't really feel like talking to you. Oliver. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's your progative. That was a little therapy
Speaker 1: session between me and myself. Let's bring on our guests,
Speaker 1: Christina and Carissa Shannan.
Speaker 2: Yeah so this is Christina. I'm Carissa.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. There's no fucking world where anyone's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to decipher.
Speaker 4: We don't even have makeup on either're usually we have
Speaker 4: makeup on. We look like freaking clone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have a little beauty marks.
Speaker 1: Oh that's it. That's it, that's it. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing that differentiates you. Wow. Well thanks for coming on.
Speaker 1: Where are you guys? Where are you living?
Speaker 2: We're in ann Arbor, Michigan.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, no escape.
Speaker 2: We escaped la as much as we could.
Speaker 1: No, I bet. I mean you had a bit of
Speaker 1: a whirlwind here, didn't you. Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, for sure.
Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start early on. Like where did you
Speaker 1: guys grow up?
Speaker 2: Okay, so we were born here in ann Arbor?
Speaker 4: Okay, Like our family had a farm in here in Howell,
Speaker 4: Michigan and stuff, and our dad was nineteen our mom
Speaker 4: was sixteen wow when they Yeah. Yeah, so our dad's
Speaker 4: mom or Italian grandmother adopted us from birth so she
Speaker 4: raised us. We didn't even know she wasn't our mom
Speaker 4: till we were twelve. We thought she was our mom. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then so but when we were younger, they sold
Speaker 4: the farm, we moved to Florida, raised in Florida months
Speaker 4: So uh huh, you.
Speaker 1: Were wait hold on, you were You were moved to
Speaker 1: Florida with your grandmother.
Speaker 2: She sold the farm and howell in Michigan.
Speaker 1: Yep. And then what and your and your mom and
Speaker 1: your dad they just disappear.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they were just like a high school sweethearts.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 4: Our biological logical mom left us in our car seats
Speaker 4: at the end of a driveway like at our farm
Speaker 4: and howel we had a long driveway, long like twisted
Speaker 4: drive She left us in our car seats at the
Speaker 4: end of the driveway. So when my dad came home,
Speaker 4: he was like nineteen from his job at the time,
Speaker 4: job at the time, he sell us at the end
Speaker 4: of the driveway and brought us, like from our car
Speaker 4: seats back to his mother, our grandma, And she's like,
Speaker 4: I'll adopt them all ready.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'll raise them, I'll take care of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, Wait, so you're when your mom left you at
Speaker 1: the end of the driveway. Did she bail that? She
Speaker 1: was like, I'm leaving this, I'm out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the crazy thing was is we were three months premature,
Speaker 4: so both of our lungs were fully developed, and so
Speaker 4: we weren't breathing like when we were born. So we
Speaker 4: were like, well it was the eighties, so like they
Speaker 4: were going to like concerts. It was eighty nine, so
Speaker 4: like there were concerts, and she was our biological mom
Speaker 4: was still drinking and doing other stuff. So and we
Speaker 4: were three months premature because of that. When we were born,
Speaker 4: we were unek you for three months, so uh wow,
Speaker 4: three months where they didn't have no one came and
Speaker 4: visited or anything like that. But when we got out
Speaker 4: of the hospital, that's when our biological mom left us
Speaker 4: at the end of the driveway. And our no no,
Speaker 4: we call her our an Italian means grandma.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I no, I know.
Speaker 4: She raised us and she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: these platinum montames.
Speaker 2: Oh there we go.
Speaker 1: Okay wow, And then you know your dad and then
Speaker 1: your your dad was nineteen and was like I can't
Speaker 1: do this.
Speaker 4: Like he was never really ready to be a father.
Speaker 4: So like if we could fast forward to now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's like a friend, well not even a friend, not
Speaker 4: even a friend like growing up.
Speaker 2: Growing up, he was a friend like the.
Speaker 4: Friendship kind of relationship, like he would smoke us or
Speaker 4: with us. We went ten years, like almost eight nine
Speaker 4: years without talking to him, and then he we said, okay.
Speaker 4: He called us from jail and was like, I'm so
Speaker 4: sorry for everything I've done. Like you guys growing up,
Speaker 4: I wasn't there all that stuff. And then he was like,
Speaker 4: I promise I'll do therapy. Because our thing was is
Speaker 4: like if you do therapy or like, so you've changed
Speaker 4: or evolved because they're not the same guy, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's like, oh, I'll go to a Catholic priest
Speaker 4: and I'll do therapy.
Speaker 2: So it's true.
Speaker 4: He got out of jails on probation currently and just
Speaker 4: same shit shows.
Speaker 2: So we're basically all of our lives we've had as
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean did not raise you well you
Speaker 1: know what I.
Speaker 2: Mean, Yes, she did, she did. She We're so blessed
Speaker 2: to have her.
Speaker 4: And that's why, like when Playboy came along, that was
Speaker 4: our way to give back to her in our way
Speaker 4: because we didn't like, you know, graduate or go to college.
Speaker 2: Or anything like that.
Speaker 4: So like when we hit Playboy, that was like hitting
Speaker 4: the lottery for us because we had to drop out
Speaker 4: of school to work at fifteen, and because we had
Speaker 4: to make our own money. We come from a small,
Speaker 4: poor Italian family. They're from a bootsy Italy. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it was just her, like her our grandfather that she
Speaker 4: was married to had passed away from throat and lung cancer,
Speaker 4: so she was left and done. So she was just
Speaker 4: it was just her. Yeah, and then so we basically
Speaker 4: had to like we kind of like stepped in and
Speaker 4: started taking care of things. But with us being twins,
Speaker 4: it's always been this gimmick since we were born, since
Speaker 4: we were born, it's like this pimmic where it's like
Speaker 4: the twin commercial thing or they want to they just
Speaker 4: want to cast us for basically everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we were very all.
Speaker 4: American, like the blonde hair, blue eyes, and we're the
Speaker 4: tall and we're twins, so it was like the doublement
Speaker 4: like back in our day, it was like the Doublemint
Speaker 4: twins we were, or the Ulsen twins we were compared to.
Speaker 2: Right, it was working for us.
Speaker 1: What did you but what did you you at fifteen
Speaker 1: for work when you were trying to sort of support yourselves,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: So we we got like odd jobs here and there
Speaker 4: until we started working at this place. So it's kind
Speaker 4: of like Hooters, but the same outfit. It's called wing House. Okay,
Speaker 4: so Hooters, like it's wings the dolphin short right in
Speaker 4: the tights in Florida. We used to like stuff our
Speaker 4: bras with like socks to make bras a bunch of
Speaker 4: socks in the bras because we always wanted to look
Speaker 4: like the older girls.
Speaker 2: Who have boobs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I remember because as hope, we couldn't
Speaker 4: serve alcohol.
Speaker 2: Two were eighteen. So like fifteen, postesses is.
Speaker 4: Opening the door together and doing like billboards, commercials, menus
Speaker 4: like I've started modeling men at fifteen, and then we
Speaker 4: realized like modeling and then modeling was like our first thing,
Speaker 4: and then commercials. It's like, okay, we have an in here.
Speaker 4: This is our nick like blagger niche, like what we
Speaker 4: need to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So then how did you sort of move fifteen
Speaker 1: supporting yourselves, you know, doing a host gig, get sort
Speaker 1: of a Hooters vibe? Right, and then how did it
Speaker 1: evolve from there.
Speaker 4: The girls at the wing House were actually doing like
Speaker 4: calendar testing well, so there was a whole calendar that
Speaker 4: we sold at that restaurant, and so that was the
Speaker 4: first centerfold we ever did. But the girls were also
Speaker 4: testing for Playboy that were there, So they were all
Speaker 4: testing to become a playmate, because all we knew was
Speaker 4: that you get twenty five thousand dollars twenty dollars to
Speaker 4: become a playmate, and a Playboy place is fifty for us,
Speaker 4: so we get our.
Speaker 2: Own, right fifty.
Speaker 4: And then if you become Pemoy Playmate of the Year,
Speaker 4: then you get a car as well.
Speaker 2: And like all these promises, like promotions.
Speaker 1: And they've come, they came into your town to look
Speaker 1: to find I mean, oh no, no, no.
Speaker 4: So we were actually fans of the Girl's next Door
Speaker 4: show on Got It.
Speaker 2: We were like.
Speaker 1: Them, how old were how old were you at this time?
Speaker 2: Fifteen? Yeah, fifteen, fifteen sixteen?
Speaker 4: From fifteen to eighteen, we were like love the Girls
Speaker 4: next Door?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: We would just.
Speaker 4: Watch them, and like the crazy thing is is we
Speaker 4: really didn't even know who who Happener really was. We
Speaker 4: really didn't know it was we were really fans of
Speaker 4: the girls. We really were in just like the house
Speaker 4: and the whole like the portrayed lifestyle. Yeah, and so
Speaker 4: like we decided like after doing like commercials and billboards
Speaker 4: and menus and all that were like that photographer they used,
Speaker 4: were like, hey, do test shoot for us to send
Speaker 4: him the Playboy because he's doing it to a bunch
Speaker 4: of other girls, and did it for us. We over
Speaker 4: and I died it and we actually got a call
Speaker 4: back like two days later, not even and it was like, hey,
Speaker 4: we're gonna send you guys up for a test shoot
Speaker 4: in Miami.
Speaker 2: Wow, but you on the story shot to Miami. I
Speaker 2: gotta say the crazy thing.
Speaker 4: The only way we were able to pay for this
Speaker 4: test shoot is because Chrisa got hit by a drunk
Speaker 4: driver when she was sixteen. The only money we got
Speaker 4: we paid for the Playboy shoot, like the test shoot
Speaker 4: to get in and we.
Speaker 2: Actually caught in.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Wow, we were seventeen when we submitted the photos to Playboy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so we birobiological dad had to come down and sign
Speaker 4: a paperwork and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Really didn't care, like you know, he he was a.
Speaker 2: Boy, like we said. He wasn't a father, he was
Speaker 2: more of a friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got it, got it, got it? So
Speaker 1: he he guardianship. He consented that it was everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So you did the photo shoot you sent it in.
Speaker 1: What was that like? Going to Miami was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I mean it must have been.
Speaker 2: We were for twenty one and we have heard all
Speaker 2: about Miami. I mean we never had been to Miami
Speaker 2: and we lived in Florida. We've never been to Disney.
Speaker 1: Well, stepping back really quickly, were you guys, what was
Speaker 1: it like growing up? And were you guys wild girls
Speaker 1: or were you were you pretty chill or like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: My Okay, So grandmother always used to say we were
Speaker 4: more powerful together, so they used to try and separate us,
Speaker 4: like growing up we were like but it was wild together,
Speaker 4: so much energy, like bouncing off the.
Speaker 2: Walls like AKHD.
Speaker 4: So we're naturally hyper yeah, super hyper. Yeah, and you
Speaker 4: can't find it out, like we're not boring at all,
Speaker 4: Like we were bouncing up the walls and some people
Speaker 4: could call s obnoxious. Honestly, we've been called obnoxious. We're exhausting. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: We always do what from a young age.
Speaker 4: My no not used to say like, you guys are
Speaker 4: going to be models, Like I could see your name
Speaker 4: and what was.
Speaker 2: It like story Light and you know it was Oh.
Speaker 4: She always kind of pushed us like, oh, you guys
Speaker 4: can be models and stuff. And we always thought Victoria's
Speaker 4: Secret Models. We always looked up to the Victoria's Secret Girl.
Speaker 2: Tall enough, yeah, very petite.
Speaker 1: So we were like, but yeah.
Speaker 4: Winghouse Playboy happened to be the like the thing that
Speaker 4: you would just like do a touch you for. It
Speaker 4: was kind of like easy to submit, kind of it's
Speaker 4: easier to get into.
Speaker 1: So then you go to Miami and it's fun. I
Speaker 1: mean you're like, holy shit, here we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, we were shocked that they even like could they
Speaker 4: so we sent our test shoot photos. In the fact
Speaker 4: that we even got booked to do a Miami shoot
Speaker 4: for us was like, oh my gosh, they're flying us
Speaker 4: out to Miami for some huge shooting. It was actually
Speaker 4: the first time like we've ever had professional hair and makeup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, makeup.
Speaker 4: We've never done a makeup, Like we don't have a
Speaker 4: young mom or no. No, raisis so like she's not
Speaker 4: doing makeup or likes in our family, so like it's
Speaker 4: a whole different glam type for us, our hair and
Speaker 4: makeup done. And actually saw the test shot photos, we're like,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, we are pretty. We didn't even think,
Speaker 4: like like when you go into a photo shooting, you know,
Speaker 4: they take the pictures you can see on the big
Speaker 4: monitor like your photo, and you're like, holy, yeah, my god,
Speaker 4: we are pretty.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you do everything together or did you everything
Speaker 1: do separate? Did you do singles as well together together?
Speaker 2: So everything was always together?
Speaker 1: But okay, so the test shoot went down, it went well,
Speaker 1: and then how does it progress?
Speaker 4: So we go to Miami, we do this test shoot
Speaker 4: and then ask way through, like halfway through at lunchtime,
Speaker 4: like we take a break and they're like, we're sending
Speaker 4: these pictures to Hef and Holly Madison and they're saying
Speaker 4: like they love the photos and you guys, we don't
Speaker 4: want to say anything, permit, but basically they're saying, you
Speaker 4: made it like getting us, like, let you know, we
Speaker 4: got you guys got the job. Like we were like,
Speaker 4: oh we got bye by bla blame me, Like, oh
Speaker 4: my goodness. So and then Yarmo was our photographer at
Speaker 4: the time, and he had shot a lot of Really
Speaker 4: it was like a very big like it was really
Speaker 4: successful for our test shoot. But then we had to
Speaker 4: go back to like the normalcy of like working at
Speaker 4: the wing house and telling everyone about the test shoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we go back to work all of our customers.
Speaker 4: I swear, we're like because we used to work these
Speaker 4: these sections, like the twins, like the Doublemint Twins and
Speaker 4: Olsen's is all we had to.
Speaker 2: Like grow up on to like look forward to. And
Speaker 2: we're like stuffing our boobs and like, oh, you guys
Speaker 2: can't make it. You don't have fake boobs, you're not
Speaker 2: old enough, blah blah blah. And it's like we actually
Speaker 2: made it in we're like very playboy. Yeah. So wow, boy,
Speaker 2: it was like a huge life changing. It was just
Speaker 2: a call.
Speaker 4: So we got a call and I think we were
Speaker 4: actually at work. We were working like a double shifts.
Speaker 4: We were working double shifts. It was two thousand and
Speaker 4: eight and it was like the recession, so like girls
Speaker 4: from the waitresses were not going home with any money, like,
Speaker 4: so we were working doubles and I remember we got
Speaker 4: a call and it was like you guys, we want
Speaker 4: you to come out to California and shoot for a
Speaker 4: fifty fifth anniversary and shoot for which was stret filling
Speaker 4: my reality show show. So it's like, yeah, on top
Speaker 4: of like you're shooting a centerfold, you're also shooting reality TV,
Speaker 4: which at the time for us in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 4: the only thing on reality TV for E Network was
Speaker 4: The Real World and then The Kardashians. I was like
Speaker 4: that that was always all that was on E Like
Speaker 4: reality TV was just coming up for us. So I
Speaker 4: feel like reality Stars when we came into it started
Speaker 4: getting treated like actors, Like we were treated like actors.
Speaker 2: It was like it was crazy.
Speaker 1: So then you go, but you go to LA and
Speaker 1: then are you now going back to Florida? Are you
Speaker 1: like permanently moved to La.
Speaker 4: So when we moved into the place, so we moved
Speaker 4: it into the Playboy Mansion after so like after test shoot, yeah,
Speaker 4: So after the test shoot, what we went home? So no,
Speaker 4: we went to shoot fifty fifth anniversary. Yeah, So after
Speaker 4: the test shoot in Miami, they were like, do you
Speaker 4: want to come out? Invited us out to stay at
Speaker 4: the Playmate House or the mansion fifty fifth anniversary, Like
Speaker 4: this whole segment they were doing on the fifty fifth
Speaker 4: anniversary Playmate. So on shooting, even though we knew we
Speaker 4: were already going to be playmates, they act like we
Speaker 4: was still like fifty fifth anniversary search. So there was
Speaker 4: like a ton of girls and we had to go
Speaker 4: out and compete. We actually we didn't know, but we
Speaker 4: all so yeah, So we went out and we went
Speaker 4: to the Playboy Mansion for the first time, and half
Speaker 4: was showing us like so much favoritism. So at the mansion.
Speaker 2: Have you been to the Playboy Mansion?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been in many parties. I've been to a
Speaker 1: Halloween party and Midsummer's Night. I've been to the New
Speaker 1: Year's but I've been yeah back in the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like like the Friday, Saturday Sundays is like
Speaker 4: movie nights and dinner nights and friends nights. And so
Speaker 4: there was this one big party. It was the Midsummer's
Speaker 4: Night Dream Party. That was like our last night there.
Speaker 4: And then we Yeah, so we went to the mansion.
Speaker 4: We went to shoot first show, do the fifty fifth
Speaker 4: anniversary show, and then we also shot our centerfold.
Speaker 2: So we had done every all our work.
Speaker 4: We had done all our work and then there was
Speaker 4: just the party, Midsummer Night Dream Party that was last
Speaker 4: like right before we were getting ready to fly back home,
Speaker 4: and like we were supposed to fly back actually home
Speaker 4: before that party, but Half fastest to stay. It was
Speaker 4: like stay for this party. You guys will love it.
Speaker 4: Mind you were only eighteen, not twenty one. So and
Speaker 4: all the girls were being mean to us because they're
Speaker 4: all in their mid twenties at least, with like fake
Speaker 4: boob jobs. We don't even know how, Like I don't
Speaker 4: even own eyeliner, Like.
Speaker 1: We don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 2: We're trying to sleep up, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we really were.
Speaker 4: Just ourselves on the Girl's next Door show, and you know,
Speaker 4: Half really showed favoritism towards us, and the other girls
Speaker 4: got jealous, and well, thank god.
Speaker 2: We have each other.
Speaker 4: The problem was when we got there, we didn't realize
Speaker 4: that Holly Bridgett and Kendra had already been in a
Speaker 4: contract with the Girls next Door, so they were finishing
Speaker 4: up their contracts even though they were broken up with Half,
Speaker 4: so like five seasons there, they had already been broken
Speaker 4: up with Half, so they were just finishing up the
Speaker 4: contract for Girls next Door.
Speaker 2: So you know, Kendra had already been a.
Speaker 4: Relationship with Basket, she was already like pregnant, might have
Speaker 4: been pregnant. And Holly was already in a relationship with
Speaker 4: pers Angel Bridges.
Speaker 2: Are you doing sexiest? Speech? Speech is like they all
Speaker 2: had something going on.
Speaker 4: They were all leaving and so timing was perfect when
Speaker 4: we had came in to instantly just.
Speaker 2: Turned it into TV as soon as we moved in.
Speaker 1: Y but what is it? But but what does it
Speaker 1: even mean? To date? Hef? I mean, what does that
Speaker 1: even mean? You know, because the typical word of when
Speaker 1: you're dating someone, you're you're hanging out with them, you're
Speaker 1: courting them, you're sleeping together, you're enjoying each other's company,
Speaker 1: you're laughing, you're this. I mean, you're dating someone you know,
Speaker 1: and dating someone implies that you can date other people
Speaker 1: you're not exclusive. Is dating? But when you're like, oh
Speaker 1: half wants to date you, I don't know how it
Speaker 1: goes down. You're like, okay, cool, Like what does that mean?
Speaker 4: So after the midsight the Midsummers Dream Party, when we
Speaker 4: were shooting at the Playboy Mansion, we went home. We
Speaker 4: flew home, told Nona all about it and everything like that,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, like a week and
Speaker 4: a half later, we get a letter with like the
Speaker 4: the Playboy stamp sted calling first. Yeah, so he first
Speaker 4: started calling. He started calling us when we went home,
Speaker 4: and he was like calling because he only happen he
Speaker 4: had both of our numbers, and he just kept blowing
Speaker 4: us up, leaving voicemails and stuff, and we were like
Speaker 4: kind of on the fence of whether we wanted to
Speaker 4: get into this or not. And then he sent the
Speaker 4: letter because it was like the original Playboy stamp. It
Speaker 4: had been like a week or two of calls and
Speaker 4: then he had sent a letter and was like, officially,
Speaker 4: can you move in be my girlfriend? And if not
Speaker 4: live at the Playmate If you don't want to be
Speaker 4: a girlfriend and move in, like can you live at
Speaker 4: the playmatehouse? But we want you on our show The
Speaker 4: Girl's next Door and stuff like that. So he invited
Speaker 4: us to come in, move in a mansion, do the show.
Speaker 4: But we thought as like girlfriends when he sent that letter,
Speaker 4: we were like, oh, that means like what we're watching
Speaker 4: on Girls next Door we've been fans.
Speaker 2: Of Like oh, we still looked up to Hollybridge and Kendra.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they run around and like, you know, Holly
Speaker 4: became this like basically a producer of Playboy, Centerfolds and
Speaker 4: like shining or she was working in like so we
Speaker 4: figured they all had their own sec Yeah, so we
Speaker 4: didn't think that the girls were actually like hooking up
Speaker 4: with it. We didn't think it was a real romantic relationship.
Speaker 2: We didn't think he could get it up. We don't
Speaker 2: think he was really having sex. He's in his eighties.
Speaker 1: We didn't even really.
Speaker 4: Realize like who he was because in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 4: you know, we were young too. We didn't barely We
Speaker 4: just show Playboy and then the show.
Speaker 1: And I guess when you're that, when you're when you're young,
Speaker 1: or when you're sort of excited to go be a
Speaker 1: part of something that is different and it's gonna make
Speaker 1: you some money and get your exposure and all that, Right,
Speaker 1: you don't ask the questions or did you? Or was
Speaker 1: it like okay, wait a minute, what does this mean?
Speaker 4: When we got on the plane and we're flying out
Speaker 4: and we accepted everything, We're like, are we gonna have
Speaker 4: to have sex with him? Like?
Speaker 2: What if the girls really have sex with him. We
Speaker 2: just started thinking about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we were like, well, we can't go
Speaker 4: back to well, we already quit our job at.
Speaker 2: We'd already stuff in the brawl.
Speaker 4: All the girls were going to shoot Playboy like you know,
Speaker 4: and we can't turn back. How did to California? Never
Speaker 4: been to California? And so we're just like we're already
Speaker 4: on our way.
Speaker 2: Let's just where this takes us.
Speaker 4: We're smart girls, like, thank god, we are siblings, Like
Speaker 4: we are very lucky. We're blessed because we do have
Speaker 4: each other where like other girls are probably flown out
Speaker 4: and they're on their own and they don't know what's
Speaker 4: going on, likely on their own when it happened, or
Speaker 4: you know, Bridget or Kindra.
Speaker 2: But for us, we actually had each other.
Speaker 4: So that's we're so lucky to be blessed to be
Speaker 4: able to like work with each other throughout our whole
Speaker 4: career and have each other.
Speaker 1: And so when you get there and they say, well
Speaker 1: here are the rules, like do you did do they
Speaker 1: explain to you like here's what do you have to
Speaker 1: do to be a girlfriend?
Speaker 4: It took a minute or have to be like, oh
Speaker 4: my god. But they kind of were like schmoozing us.
Speaker 4: They were like shoes kissing our butts and like just
Speaker 4: kind of giving us all like the benefits of being
Speaker 4: We were living at the Playmate House, so when we
Speaker 4: first got there, we didn't move straight into the Playboy mansion.
Speaker 2: We went to the Playmate House, which was across the street.
Speaker 4: Like Aaron Spelling literally lived the house next door, so
Speaker 4: i was like the Playboy mentioned. Then there was the
Speaker 4: Bunny House right across the street, and then Aaron Spelling's
Speaker 4: house there and.
Speaker 2: Jimmy. We had a great neighborhood, so it was like
Speaker 2: across it was walk across the street. Oh yeah, it
Speaker 2: was just like he had us right across the street.
Speaker 4: And so we were there like three nights and you know,
Speaker 4: he just got our nineteenth birthday was from nineteenth birthday
Speaker 4: was coming up, and he had invited us out to
Speaker 4: dinner and a club. We're getting in a limo, We're
Speaker 4: going with all these playmates. We're going with you know,
Speaker 4: the girls next door that we're famous at the time,
Speaker 4: And for us, this is like the first time we've
Speaker 4: actually been celebrated as like you guys are gorgeous, like.
Speaker 2: Like for us, this was like the first time we
Speaker 2: were on.
Speaker 1: Hollywood going out, Was it excite? Was it exciting? Was
Speaker 1: it so fun?
Speaker 2: So here's the thing we honestly to be honest, yeah,
Speaker 2: fans of that.
Speaker 1: Famous great movie.
Speaker 2: I grew up to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that was like we've always looked up to
Speaker 4: those So for us, we're like, we're in the industry
Speaker 4: where it's all happening.
Speaker 2: It was not like a ton of opportunities. It wasn't
Speaker 2: just a Playboy for us.
Speaker 4: We were like, maybe Victoria secut or maybe we're gonna act,
Speaker 4: and we got into a movie right away. Like for
Speaker 4: us the first year we were there, we got into
Speaker 4: Sophia Coppola's movie some Somewhere started, so like we got
Speaker 4: into movies right away, Like it wasn't just really Victoria's Secret.
Speaker 4: They turned us down and they're like, since you did Playboy,
Speaker 4: you can't do Victoria's Secret. Boxes on there, And then
Speaker 4: we realized we're we're in the.
Speaker 2: X rated in this industry.
Speaker 4: As soon as I guess we did Playboy, that was
Speaker 4: like boom check, you can't do anything like class I mean,
Speaker 4: like Victoria's Secret or more mainstream I guess right.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're at the clubs you're you're in la,
Speaker 1: you're feeling it's fun, you get you're dressing cool, you
Speaker 1: feel sexy. It's all it's all happening.
Speaker 2: It's all happening.
Speaker 1: It's all happening. And what about what about boys? Like
Speaker 1: are you allowed to date boys? Are you allowed to
Speaker 1: sort of you know what I mean? Like how do
Speaker 1: you experience relationships or sex or having fun?
Speaker 4: So, like we said, he did when we moved in.
Speaker 4: He didn't give us the rules, but we just got
Speaker 4: yelled at we did wrong. The longer we were the
Speaker 4: more he would be like, well, this is off limits,
Speaker 4: this is off limits, you know. So nine o'clock curfew,
Speaker 4: nine pm curfew unless you're out with him. You had
Speaker 4: a nine Friday, Saturday and Sunday it was five pm
Speaker 4: curfew because dinner started at five Friday.
Speaker 2: Saturday, we did old school movies.
Speaker 4: Sundays were movies that were in theaters and so we
Speaker 4: could in silent films, so we could see a movie
Speaker 4: that was in theaters now and sen.
Speaker 2: Yet like it was pretty cool.
Speaker 4: So but like since Weriday, Sunday and Sunday at five
Speaker 4: o'clock was a curfew, nine o'clock was every other day.
Speaker 4: But like, no, he never said no boys, but you're
Speaker 4: not allowed no boys. Because when we first started filming
Speaker 4: the movie for Sofia Copla starring story was it somewhere, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Christina and Steven Dorf very clicked. So yeah, we played
Speaker 4: a love We had a love interest, and he had
Speaker 4: found out and he had read the script before us,
Speaker 4: before we even even knew we had a movie opportunity.
Speaker 4: He came in and read the script and said, oh,
Speaker 4: it's it's Fred Durst and on assing scene and I'm like,
Speaker 4: are you telling me know I'm not allowed to do
Speaker 4: this or what because he's coming and giving us the news,
Speaker 4: like he's giving us this and it's not Yeah, but anyways,
Speaker 4: it happened to be Stephen Dorf and we had to
Speaker 4: audition three times and go to Sofia for three times.
Speaker 2: And then Sophia Coppa.
Speaker 4: Actually we're so shocked because we're Italian and she's Italian
Speaker 4: and we're friends. We're fans of her dad who did
Speaker 4: The Godfather, so we're like, oh my gosh. We Sophia
Speaker 4: Copple actually showed up to film a Girl's next Door episode,
Speaker 4: which is reality.
Speaker 2: Show at the Playboy mansion.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 4: Gosh, this is like this is all same to us. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Siffley came there and and wat's just rehearse are we
Speaker 4: had two dance routines in the movie on top of
Speaker 4: the other stuff, but she wanted to come to it.
Speaker 4: The long story short, So Stephen Dorf likes his mother
Speaker 4: had passed away right before, like or right as that
Speaker 4: movie was being shot. So Sophia was a really good
Speaker 4: friend of ours, and she was kind of telling us
Speaker 4: go to Stephen got he's got a bar. He's lonely,
Speaker 4: like his mom just passed away. Like you girls need
Speaker 4: to be actors. Get out of this reality industry, Like,
Speaker 4: don't get any surgery, don't get your books done to
Speaker 4: the world. She's like, come to Italy, we'll put more
Speaker 4: spots of you in the movie. Have Bene Seel del
Speaker 4: Toro and everything in the mood to come from. And
Speaker 4: she's like, come to Rome, we'll put you. We'll give
Speaker 4: you a bigger rule, Like she want to put put
Speaker 4: us more in those So we're like we figured out, okay,
Speaker 4: we want to do acting.
Speaker 1: Well what point or did it get to be sort
Speaker 1: of suffocating where you're like, you know what, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to fucking come home at five pm. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do at nine pm. I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a young girl in Hollywood. I'm young girls in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Like I want to go live my life, Like I
Speaker 1: don't like this anymore. When did it get to that point?
Speaker 2: We really at the bottom.
Speaker 4: My minds were like, we just want to take care
Speaker 4: of our Nona, like, we want to take care of
Speaker 4: our family.
Speaker 2: We can't go home, sheoke again. Yeah, we're like getting
Speaker 2: in movies.
Speaker 4: And then after the movie she became a galorial France,
Speaker 4: commercials and.
Speaker 2: Five.
Speaker 4: Like, we were getting offered so much stuff that the
Speaker 4: mansion started holding us back.
Speaker 2: We didn't even know what SAG was. The screen. We
Speaker 2: didn't know what SAG was.
Speaker 4: And they're like, no, you guys are like straight in.
Speaker 4: Sophia got you guys straight into the Screen Actors Guild.
Speaker 4: So it was good because we were getting paid well.
Speaker 4: So it was like the SAG. They were making sure
Speaker 4: we got paid well. Hugh Hefner wasn't making sure we
Speaker 4: got paid well. He was taking all, like most of
Speaker 4: our money and only giving us one thousand dollars every.
Speaker 2: Friday in cash.
Speaker 4: Both of us only a thousand per girlfriend every Friday
Speaker 4: in cash and he'd mark it down, keep it in
Speaker 4: a safe and like you had to go beg him
Speaker 4: for it, and he opened it up and he's got
Speaker 4: like his paper you write down, Carosa did this much,
Speaker 4: Christina got this much? Okay, I didn't overpay them or
Speaker 4: I didn't underpay them, you know, like he's watching for it,
Speaker 4: sang what and like when the if? We just realized
Speaker 4: we outgrew the mansion because he was holding us back,
Speaker 4: and Sofia Coppla really acted as like a second no
Speaker 4: not to us, because she was telling us like you
Speaker 4: girls can do so much more. Don't do the boot,
Speaker 4: don't surgery, don't do acting last you.
Speaker 1: Know, so then what so then what happened? Like how
Speaker 1: did you how did you exit?
Speaker 4: We had to finish the Girls next Door TV show,
Speaker 4: which was how long?
Speaker 2: Five and six so two seasons.
Speaker 1: So about two years ishers Yeah it's okay, yeah, and
Speaker 1: at that point where you live, where you have girlfriends
Speaker 1: at that point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were since we moved in, we were
Speaker 4: considered girlfriends.
Speaker 1: Girlfriends okay, eighteen.
Speaker 4: To twenty eighteen to twenty yes, because we swore we're
Speaker 4: like we're not going to stay here till twenty one
Speaker 4: because we looked at the old girls much older there
Speaker 4: in their thirties, so we're teenagers. We were teenagers and
Speaker 4: they were like, you know, the mid thirty older. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to waste ten years here. We actually
Speaker 4: have a story where we have a gimmick where we're
Speaker 4: like getting casted as twins to do like acting in
Speaker 4: bigger rules than just reality TV like the other girls were,
Speaker 4: and only certain playmates get to do that, you know,
Speaker 4: So we really wanted to like dive in and do
Speaker 4: much as we can. And you know, the entertainment industry
Speaker 4: they want to get you while you're young. The older
Speaker 4: you get as a woman, it's it's not gonna get
Speaker 4: any easier.
Speaker 1: So and did you have to like acquiesce to whatever
Speaker 1: he wanted?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: So our first Christmas present from uh we call the
Speaker 4: house mom, but it's Mary O'Connor gave us a calendar
Speaker 4: for Christmas, our first Christmas there, and it was a
Speaker 4: calendar pre filled out of all HEF's schedule, and his
Speaker 4: whole schedule is basically this is your schedule.
Speaker 2: Now you're living his life.
Speaker 4: So we're living his life like you have to get
Speaker 4: hair and makeup done at one place, and you have
Speaker 4: to go well, hair at one place, make up at
Speaker 4: another place right in here, and then you you're by
Speaker 4: five o'clock. You have to be back and ready for
Speaker 4: this or whatever Eventy has. So Monday was manly night.
Speaker 4: He would spend Mondays with the men. Wednesdays was card night,
Speaker 4: so he'd want to spend Any girl that were across
Speaker 4: the street working or living at the Bunny House would
Speaker 4: come across the street and play Uno or Domino's put
Speaker 4: their time.
Speaker 2: So it was like the whole week was taken up.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sure there's so many stories, just
Speaker 1: like I can't even imagine I could talking for ten
Speaker 1: hours about all these stories. It's fascinating to me, just
Speaker 1: that interior, your lifestyle, like how it all went down.
Speaker 1: I mean even the celebrities that showed up there. I
Speaker 1: mean you're propositioned a thousand times by like a thousand celebrities.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: We always get asked the one question like who was
Speaker 4: the most famous person you met? And we always say
Speaker 4: buzz Aldrin because we're obsessed with space.
Speaker 2: And want to be the first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's with space, Like we all love space and
Speaker 4: so like buzz Aldream. I remember came to a party
Speaker 4: and Heff was telling us because he knew were upsis
Speaker 4: with space, and he's like this is buzz Aldrin and
Speaker 4: we're like drunk and we're like buzz buzz, like we're
Speaker 4: trying to hear and he's like, yeah, like oh my god,
Speaker 4: you went to the moon, dude, Yeah, and that's like
Speaker 4: that's our celebrity we wanted to meet, Like yeah, but
Speaker 4: and Steven Spielbert and Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 1: Filbert, Yeah, of course. Wow, it's such a crazy fascinating life.
Speaker 1: So then how did you exit? You know, how did
Speaker 1: it all? How did you get out? What does life
Speaker 1: look like now? What is the plan? What's the future?
Speaker 4: When the show the show starts coming to an end,
Speaker 4: we actually sibling sibling rivalry over here. We were like fighting,
Speaker 4: if you want to talk about fighting, Like we actually
Speaker 4: had fights in the mansion that he was like with
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 2: You really, yeah, like.
Speaker 1: So what do you guys fight about?
Speaker 4: There's a housekeeping closet and you know, Carrissa goes in
Speaker 4: there and we're drunk after a party and we're running
Speaker 4: around basically in underwear through the whole mansion, like it's
Speaker 4: massive and something set up.
Speaker 2: So something set us off. You're arguing. Carissa goes into
Speaker 2: the housekeeper closet and grabs a bottle wind Dex and
Speaker 2: I started spraying in with and I'm like freaking.
Speaker 4: Blind and I'm running around and that's like right down
Speaker 4: the hall in his bedroom. So security security watches us
Speaker 4: at all times, and they're like he The security goes
Speaker 4: to Heffen. They're like hmh Hugh Marston Heffner, hmh. They're
Speaker 4: fighting security and fighting. Then he comes down, He's like,
Speaker 4: what's going on. I'm like rinsing my eyes out. He's like,
Speaker 4: you guys need to hug it out right now, like
Speaker 4: me and let me finish. She threw a whole thing
Speaker 4: of protein powder. Whamn, so she's full of windocks. I'm
Speaker 4: full of protein powder. And the Andf's looking at us like,
Speaker 4: you guys are fighting and we're like, there's protein powder.
Speaker 4: We're fighting right now, drunk, yes, protein powder all this.
Speaker 4: We can't be like, you know, robotic and be happy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: go lucky twins all the time. Boom boo, kiddy fuck
Speaker 4: all the time, Like yeah, we are imperfections, cracked you know,
Speaker 4: we thought that was the one fight pressure pressure, and
Speaker 4: he's like at the end of the day, you know
Speaker 4: what he did, He's like, I'll buy you guys a
Speaker 4: new computer. You broke, broke this rivalry fights in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then when you were when you left,
Speaker 1: when you were on your own, were you still in it?
Speaker 1: You stay in LA.
Speaker 2: So here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 4: Carissa wanted to leave before I did, so we weren't
Speaker 4: ready to leave it at.
Speaker 2: The same time.
Speaker 4: Ah ready to leave at the same time you because
Speaker 4: you were, like Carissa had started dating.
Speaker 2: Oh, we ended up like wanting to leave.
Speaker 4: The mansion and start dating, started dating. We turned half
Speaker 4: we were ready to leave and have.
Speaker 2: Said we did.
Speaker 4: You guys can have like you can move into the
Speaker 4: playmatehouse and maybe you'll change your mind after you've got
Speaker 4: some freedom, which is right across the street.
Speaker 2: We moved out.
Speaker 4: Know that that freedom gave us time to like explore
Speaker 4: l A and like find.
Speaker 2: Out what's out beyond the ground.
Speaker 4: We were to leave, able to leave homeby Hills and
Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. We could leave homebe Hills, Beverly Hills. So
Speaker 4: like it was like we got to actually we we
Speaker 4: we called Mary. We called Mary O'Connor staff over here,
Speaker 4: and we go to her and we tell her, look,
Speaker 4: we want to leave, but we want to stay on
Speaker 4: great terms.
Speaker 2: So this is like, how do you break up with you?
Speaker 2: Half her?
Speaker 4: So she kind of helped us. Ande's like, all right,
Speaker 4: let's call him down here, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait,
Speaker 4: don't cal him down right now. We're not ready to
Speaker 4: talk about this.
Speaker 1: Help you.
Speaker 4: And so we had talked about and just said like,
Speaker 4: we didn't want to be here, we want to you know,
Speaker 4: you're kind of holding us back.
Speaker 2: We wanted to do other things. So she brought him down.
Speaker 4: He walks down to the office and he's like, let
Speaker 4: me guess you guys are leaving me.
Speaker 2: He knew right away, like you're.
Speaker 1: Breaking up with me? And what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were breaking up with him. But so
Speaker 4: Carissa ended up moving out all right. Well, he put
Speaker 4: us to the guest house to play, not the guests
Speaker 4: at the planmate house. The guest house was still in
Speaker 4: the property. Playmate house was across the street next to
Speaker 4: Aaron Spelling, and he gave us the room we wanted.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he put us at the playmate house and says,
Speaker 4: this will make us closer, like you'll want me, you'll
Speaker 4: want to come started dating, And he also cut our
Speaker 4: allowance back from one thousand to five hundred dollars. And
Speaker 4: the rule was we had to still go to every Sunday,
Speaker 4: Funday event or and every night and night, so Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 4: and Sunday we had to be there.
Speaker 2: Keep up, keep up the appearances and stuff.
Speaker 4: So that fall apart because we weren't staying there and
Speaker 4: keeping up on appearances. Kept just moving out and we
Speaker 4: stopped coming home, and and we get these voicemails and
Speaker 4: he's like, hey, honey, you look up at his black book,
Speaker 4: like it's like the one that you push and then
Speaker 4: it just through. And it's like he's got the black
Speaker 4: book full of everyone's phone number and he's dialing the
Speaker 4: old school, leaving leaving voicemails.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like, you guys aren't home. I just
Speaker 2: want to know where you're.
Speaker 4: At, if you're safe, and we're like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: we're safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And then you eventually moved out and you
Speaker 1: like to move yea.
Speaker 2: So we moved out.
Speaker 4: I moved into a boyfriend's house at the time. That
Speaker 4: was a really crappy boyfriend. She moved into the Playmatehouse
Speaker 4: and started so I was still living there by myself.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: So we opened up a beauty salon in twenty fourteen
Speaker 4: called Glam Beverly Hills, right off Well Show and Robertson
Speaker 4: on that corner Sineway, and we became the youngest members
Speaker 4: of Beverly Hills Chamber of Commerce.
Speaker 2: But the same our mother died. She died, Oh, the
Speaker 2: only family we had.
Speaker 4: So like we had millions of dollars for the first time,
Speaker 4: we had our own beauty salon. We had all the
Speaker 4: freedom in the world and twenty four youngest members of
Speaker 4: Beverlyhiels Chambers of Commerce. And then Nona dies and like
Speaker 4: that was like our compass, our our foundations.
Speaker 2: And she died. We went off to the wall, like
Speaker 2: really depressed. We had no family.
Speaker 4: So it was and then the playboy family that we
Speaker 4: did have because we broke up with Puff, that was abandons.
Speaker 4: It was just abandonment, abandonment, abandonment, abandonment. So that's why
Speaker 4: we always say we're trauma bonded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So then how did you after Nona? After
Speaker 1: Nona passed? What was what was the move. I mean,
Speaker 1: did you still you still had your business? Did you
Speaker 1: get we had this idea?
Speaker 4: So this is like the first time we had no
Speaker 4: idea what we wanted. So we've always been had strong
Speaker 4: and like, we had no idea what we wanted to do.
Speaker 2: After sure, that's the way, we're like, what do we do?
Speaker 2: What's our purpose?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: Was the thing you do? We make proud.
Speaker 4: In California for commercial real estate, you have to sign
Speaker 4: for if you're not buying the place, you have to
Speaker 4: have three years you rent it, and then after the
Speaker 4: three years you have to sign up for five years.
Speaker 2: After that malandatory. So we got Glamberg the Hill Salon,
Speaker 2: and we sign up for the three years, and then
Speaker 2: after the three years were done, they were like, you
Speaker 2: have to do five years.
Speaker 1: So how are you able to get sober and sort
Speaker 1: of put your life back on a better track.
Speaker 4: When we moved to Michigan is like when we decided,
Speaker 4: so we decided to get out of California.
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, so so that's let's go there, Like
Speaker 1: why did you move? Why did you move to Michigan.
Speaker 4: So it was the third year of our salon. The
Speaker 4: Bilm movement had came along. Everyone was doing like these
Speaker 4: riots and boulevard. We were primetime Beverly Hills. The whole
Speaker 4: front of our salon was glass, and people kept breaking
Speaker 4: in and stealing our cash out of our register, and
Speaker 4: I was just like, you know, California is getting bad.
Speaker 4: All our friends started moving. Stephen Dorfa moved to Nashville,
Speaker 4: and then everybody else was moving to Florida. So it's
Speaker 4: like everybody in LA was constantly like, we're going to Nashville,
Speaker 4: We're going to Florida, We're going to like they were
Speaker 4: all moving. Everyone was leaving on at this time. So
Speaker 4: we were like, let's leave, and we didn't know where
Speaker 4: we wanted to go because our mother had passed away,
Speaker 4: had family to go to to my dad, We have
Speaker 4: no nobody, So we thought we were born in our arbor.
Speaker 2: Let's just go to an We're too known in Floye.
Speaker 4: We're recognized on Floria. Let's go to Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Speaker 4: Nobody's there, there's no paparazzi.
Speaker 2: We wanted to be normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long have you lived there now?
Speaker 2: Pictures We've been here now six years, and so.
Speaker 1: What do you do it? What do you what's your plan,
Speaker 1: what are you doing in an arbor or what's the future.
Speaker 4: So we were walking at houses in Florida. Really okay,
Speaker 4: so after we got our break, No, we got a
Speaker 4: breakout here and we realized she can served its purpose. No,
Speaker 4: we like we looked at the Scott Eastwoods and we
Speaker 4: were like settling for like that movie, like when you
Speaker 4: look at the movies and you're like the country boy
Speaker 4: coming to Michigan. We find like a cowboy and just.
Speaker 2: Settle down in normal life. No one's going to paparazzi
Speaker 2: us anymore.
Speaker 4: Right, it was good for privacy and healing, but it's
Speaker 4: time to get back out there. And that's why right
Speaker 4: now we're out there, like it's taken a six year old.
Speaker 1: What's the plan?
Speaker 2: So we just put so here's our thing. We just
Speaker 2: had thirty five.
Speaker 1: So you're you're born in eighty nine, so you are
Speaker 1: forty four forty five, uh thirty five thirty five right, yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 4: We're just like we wanted to only like because we
Speaker 4: did the Celebrity Big Brother UK in twenty twelve, so
Speaker 4: we kind of just wanted to step in and do
Speaker 4: like maybe an appearance on a reality show like we
Speaker 4: did before, like go to do the Traders TV show.
Speaker 2: We really want to do Traders, like maybe start getting.
Speaker 4: Into some reality, should do a podcast maybe, so kind
Speaker 4: of like Drew Barrymore, we thought we could host the
Speaker 4: TV show. We're pretty like we're pretty cool at that,
Speaker 4: or maybe get back into a little bit of a
Speaker 4: something something, but not full time.
Speaker 2: So we hit up our.
Speaker 4: Old agents from who we have when we were eighteen.
Speaker 4: We've just been working and then we just came out
Speaker 4: with this article for People magazine magazine and we rolled in.
Speaker 4: It's rolled in to everybody story from us just being honest,
Speaker 4: and we're really in shock because like usually our whole
Speaker 4: career it's always been about like Hugh Hefner or the
Speaker 4: Playboy or the other girls. So it was like we
Speaker 4: were really shocked that people actually cared about our story.
Speaker 4: We were and like how we started and stuff. And
Speaker 4: then like once people heard the truth thought of us
Speaker 4: and that wasn't filtered and stuff like yeah, because we
Speaker 4: have came from a lot, like we are very blessed
Speaker 4: to have each other, because we came from a very
Speaker 4: badly physically abusive family with my father coming from that.
Speaker 1: My father, well you you guys, are each your saving graces?
Speaker 1: It seems you know, you lean and rely on each other.
Speaker 1: Of course you're twins and there's that connectivity that just
Speaker 1: goes unconsciously. But there's also like you need each other,
Speaker 1: you know exactly you need each other. And so if
Speaker 1: you go to Florida, you go to Florida. Or when
Speaker 1: are you moving? Are you like soon?
Speaker 2: We're going to move to book atone July July?
Speaker 1: Okay now? And the plans just to keep keep continuing
Speaker 1: what you're doing.
Speaker 2: We're open to dating now, we're open to I was about.
Speaker 1: To say, what's up with men? You know, how long
Speaker 1: has it been? How long has it been?
Speaker 2: So we haven't dated in six years? Six seven?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Like no, seriously, no sex, no nothing.
Speaker 4: People say to us, so like you're so gorgeous, and
Speaker 4: you know, all of a sudden, like how do you
Speaker 4: not have a boyfriend?
Speaker 2: I're like, we have to get this right first, we
Speaker 2: have to get up here.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's impressive. Six years. Wow, gets So what
Speaker 1: happens if one of you falls in love then the
Speaker 1: other one doesn't.
Speaker 4: That's the thing I have to approve of each other's
Speaker 4: significant other, Like we have to approve of them.
Speaker 1: What Christina is like, I'm fucking in love and I'm
Speaker 1: getting married and I've moved in with a dude.
Speaker 4: Well, the most recent thing we've talked about with our
Speaker 4: manager is a dating show. So like we're really thinking
Speaker 4: about doing a dating show, and most of them like
Speaker 4: they're not successful.
Speaker 2: It's like kind of fake.
Speaker 4: But no, we're really looking. I really want to settle down.
Speaker 4: We want my kids, we want to have kids, we
Speaker 4: want to have a big fire.
Speaker 1: I know, but do you need to do all of
Speaker 1: this together? Yeah? How is it possible to find a
Speaker 1: dude at the same time? You know? I mean, so
Speaker 1: we're just praying.
Speaker 4: I mean we pray about it and like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I just feel like it's gonna have it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Okay, good feeling like it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Like, honestly, I feel like we're kind of psychic, you know,
Speaker 4: we're like, Okay, that's crazy, but we're kind of really Okay.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a question. Do you guys
Speaker 1: have the same idea of like a perfect man?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so we used to have the opposite, but
Speaker 2: now we like the same type.
Speaker 1: Of give me, give me the perfect dude.
Speaker 4: Older, more established, funny, very kind, the nerdy we need nerdy.
Speaker 2: I like the bad boys that were assholes and there
Speaker 2: were hot. Yeah, I just go for the for the nerds.
Speaker 1: It's not hot and nerdy, older and successful.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, exactly, someone who can fall in love with, yes,
Speaker 4: and someone who's someone who won't hit on my sister.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to look up at the both of us.
Speaker 1: Okay, got it? But but but do you have to
Speaker 1: be attracted to the person though.
Speaker 2: Well, I've been eyeing Elon Musk Chris. He's an Eyeland.
Speaker 4: I know it's a bad example. Know what she really is,
Speaker 4: what I really have been. I'm thinking of reaching out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go for it. He has a lot of kids, don't.
Speaker 4: Fall in love maybe, like because I know Elon Musk
Speaker 4: has like ten kids.
Speaker 1: I was like, what I'm saying is, do you have
Speaker 1: to be attracted to the person or do you want,
Speaker 1: like a nerd who's successful be.
Speaker 4: Treated right after everything we've been through, the most attractive
Speaker 4: looks a busy looks for a bonus for us, Like
Speaker 4: what we've learned is like the way we're treated and
Speaker 4: their characters what we look for, so Honestly, we're not
Speaker 4: like shallow where we're looking for looks like if you're funny,
Speaker 4: if you're trusting, and.
Speaker 2: You're loyal, and you're you're good.
Speaker 4: To my family and my family and they have nothing
Speaker 4: negative to say, Like that's all we're looking for, like
Speaker 4: a good like someone not normal, but you know, you
Speaker 4: know like.
Speaker 1: That it's hard, you know, powerful man?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we like powerful men, you do, Yeah, because we're
Speaker 4: very we're very alpha and we're very.
Speaker 2: We say it like, hey, you can scare off some guys.
Speaker 1: You do, you do? You do say that?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe being with half kind of made us more attracted
Speaker 4: to a powerful kind of guy. Not like that we
Speaker 4: were attracted to, but it's just the powerful being experienced
Speaker 4: to that, exposed to that, and.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like we like the more powerful kind of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well this would be good. Florida's probably the better
Speaker 1: place to go. Well, we've gone way over time because
Speaker 1: I'm just fucking so fascinated with with your story. I
Speaker 1: mean I could talk to our hours about all the
Speaker 1: intricate sort of.
Speaker 4: Ongoing use our iPhone camelo yeah yeah, yeah, no, but
Speaker 4: we've got talking to you. Honestly, you made it, you know,
Speaker 4: very comfortable.
Speaker 1: Oh good, we enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's our first podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh good. Well, I'm I'm I'm happy to be the first.
Speaker 1: Well I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. Good
Speaker 1: luck with it all, and thanks for telling your story
Speaker 1: and thanks for being so candid. You know, honestly, it's
Speaker 1: the best way to be. Yeah, good luck finding that dude.
Speaker 4: Or dude, dude.
Speaker 1: Dude men two men. No no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no, ok you, thank you guys. Okay, bye,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do an outro. I'm going to
Speaker 1: just let you sting that for a second. Oliver Hudson
Speaker 1: out ah.