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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 1: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 1: a sibling Railvalry.

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Speaker 3: No, no, sibling, you don't do that with your mouth, revelry.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: It's Oliver Hudson here on the podcast Sibling Rail already,

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Speaker 1: and i'd like to introduce my guests today, Oliver Hudson. Hey, Oliver,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm good. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: of course. I'm really interested in your sort of career

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Speaker 1: and growing up with your family and uh yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: we can we can talk about that. Okay, great, I

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Speaker 1: thought you were gonna shy away from that. Noah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I love my family. I respect my family. Yeah, go ahead, shoot, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with the first question. What does it feel

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Speaker 1: like to be the least successful family member? Wow? So

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Speaker 1: you're just gonna go right there. Well, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: you talk about it, you know, in the press lot. No,

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Speaker 1: I know. Well, uh, it's just is what it is,

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Speaker 1: you know what. I don't want to do this podcast anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't really feel like talking to you. Oliver. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, that's your progative. That was a little therapy

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Speaker 1: session between me and myself. Let's bring on our guests,

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Speaker 1: Christina and Carissa Shannan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so this is Christina. I'm Carissa.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. There's no fucking world where anyone's gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to decipher.

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Speaker 4: We don't even have makeup on either're usually we have

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Speaker 4: makeup on. We look like freaking clone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have a little beauty marks.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's it. That's it, that's it. That's the only

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Speaker 1: thing that differentiates you. Wow. Well thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Where are you guys? Where are you living?

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Speaker 2: We're in ann Arbor, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, no escape.

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Speaker 2: We escaped la as much as we could.

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Speaker 1: No, I bet. I mean you had a bit of

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Speaker 1: a whirlwind here, didn't you. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start early on. Like where did you

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Speaker 1: guys grow up?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we were born here in ann Arbor?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Like our family had a farm in here in Howell,

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Speaker 4: Michigan and stuff, and our dad was nineteen our mom

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Speaker 4: was sixteen wow when they Yeah. Yeah, so our dad's

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Speaker 4: mom or Italian grandmother adopted us from birth so she

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Speaker 4: raised us. We didn't even know she wasn't our mom

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Speaker 4: till we were twelve. We thought she was our mom. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and then so but when we were younger, they sold

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Speaker 4: the farm, we moved to Florida, raised in Florida months

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Speaker 4: So uh huh, you.

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Speaker 1: Were wait hold on, you were You were moved to

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Speaker 1: Florida with your grandmother.

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Speaker 2: She sold the farm and howell in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And then what and your and your mom and

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Speaker 1: your dad they just disappear.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they were just like a high school sweethearts.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 4: Our biological logical mom left us in our car seats

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Speaker 4: at the end of a driveway like at our farm

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Speaker 4: and howel we had a long driveway, long like twisted

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Speaker 4: end of the driveway. So when my dad came home,

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Speaker 4: he was like nineteen from his job at the time,

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Speaker 4: job at the time, he sell us at the end

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Speaker 4: of the driveway and brought us, like from our car

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Speaker 4: seats back to his mother, our grandma, And she's like,

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Speaker 4: I'll adopt them all ready.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I'll raise them, I'll take care of them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Wait, so you're when your mom left you at

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Speaker 1: the end of the driveway. Did she bail that? She

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm leaving this, I'm out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And the crazy thing was is we were three months premature,

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Speaker 4: so both of our lungs were fully developed, and so

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Speaker 4: we weren't breathing like when we were born. So we

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Speaker 4: were like, well it was the eighties, so like they

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Speaker 4: were going to like concerts. It was eighty nine, so

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Speaker 4: like there were concerts, and she was our biological mom

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Speaker 4: was still drinking and doing other stuff. So and we

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Speaker 4: were three months premature because of that. When we were born,

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Speaker 4: we were unek you for three months, so uh wow,

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Speaker 4: three months where they didn't have no one came and

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Speaker 4: of the hospital, that's when our biological mom left us

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Speaker 4: at the end of the driveway. And our no no,

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Speaker 4: we call her our an Italian means grandma.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I no, I know.

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Speaker 4: She raised us and she was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: these platinum montames.

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Speaker 2: Oh there we go.

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Speaker 1: Okay wow, And then you know your dad and then

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Speaker 1: your your dad was nineteen and was like I can't

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Speaker 4: Like he was never really ready to be a father.

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Speaker 4: So like if we could fast forward to now. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's like a friend, well not even a friend, not

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Speaker 4: even a friend like growing up.

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Speaker 2: Growing up, he was a friend like the.

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Speaker 4: Friendship kind of relationship, like he would smoke us or

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Speaker 4: with us. We went ten years, like almost eight nine

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Speaker 4: He called us from jail and was like, I'm so

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Speaker 4: sorry for everything I've done. Like you guys growing up,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't there all that stuff. And then he was like,

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Speaker 4: I promise I'll do therapy. Because our thing was is

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Speaker 4: like if you do therapy or like, so you've changed

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Speaker 4: or evolved because they're not the same guy, you know.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, oh, I'll go to a Catholic priest

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Speaker 4: and I'll do therapy.

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Speaker 2: So it's true.

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Speaker 4: He got out of jails on probation currently and just

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Speaker 4: same shit shows.

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Speaker 2: So we're basically all of our lives we've had as

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Speaker 2: each other.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean did not raise you well you

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Speaker 2: Mean, Yes, she did, she did. She We're so blessed

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Speaker 4: And that's why, like when Playboy came along, that was

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Speaker 4: our way to give back to her in our way

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Speaker 4: because we didn't like, you know, graduate or go to college.

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Speaker 4: So like when we hit Playboy, that was like hitting

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Speaker 4: the lottery for us because we had to drop out

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Speaker 4: it was just her, like her our grandfather that she

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Speaker 4: it's always been this gimmick since we were born, since

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Speaker 4: want to cast us for basically everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we were very all.

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Speaker 2: Right, it was working for us.

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Speaker 1: What did you but what did you you at fifteen

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Speaker 4: So we we got like odd jobs here and there

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Speaker 4: until we started working at this place. So it's kind

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Speaker 4: of like Hooters, but the same outfit. It's called wing House. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so Hooters, like it's wings the dolphin short right in

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Speaker 2: Who have boobs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I remember because as hope, we couldn't

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Speaker 2: Two were eighteen. So like fifteen, postesses is.

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Speaker 4: Opening the door together and doing like billboards, commercials, menus

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Speaker 4: like I've started modeling men at fifteen, and then we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So then how did you sort of move fifteen

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Speaker 4: The girls at the wing House were actually doing like

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Speaker 4: calendar testing well, so there was a whole calendar that

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Speaker 4: first centerfold we ever did. But the girls were also

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Speaker 4: testing for Playboy that were there, So they were all

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Speaker 4: that you get twenty five thousand dollars twenty dollars to

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Speaker 2: Own, right fifty.

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Speaker 4: And then if you become Pemoy Playmate of the Year,

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Speaker 2: And like all these promises, like promotions.

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Speaker 1: And they've come, they came into your town to look

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Speaker 4: So we were actually fans of the Girl's next Door

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Speaker 2: We were like.

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Speaker 1: Them, how old were how old were you at this time?

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Speaker 4: From fifteen to eighteen, we were like love the Girls

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Speaker 4: Watch them, and like the crazy thing is is we

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Speaker 4: and the whole like the portrayed lifestyle. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 4: like we decided like after doing like commercials and billboards

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Speaker 4: were like, hey, do test shoot for us to send

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Speaker 4: him the Playboy because he's doing it to a bunch

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Speaker 4: of other girls, and did it for us. We over

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Speaker 4: and I died it and we actually got a call

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Speaker 4: back like two days later, not even and it was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna send you guys up for a test shoot

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Speaker 4: in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Wow, but you on the story shot to Miami. I

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Speaker 2: gotta say the crazy thing.

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Speaker 4: The only way we were able to pay for this

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Speaker 4: test shoot is because Chrisa got hit by a drunk

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Speaker 4: driver when she was sixteen. The only money we got

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Speaker 4: we paid for the Playboy shoot, like the test shoot

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Speaker 2: Actually caught in.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Wow, we were seventeen when we submitted the photos to Playboy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so we birobiological dad had to come down and sign

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Speaker 1: Really didn't care, like you know, he he was a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you do everything together or did you everything

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Speaker 4: Just ourselves on the Girl's next Door show, and you know,

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Speaker 2: We have each other.

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Speaker 4: The problem was when we got there, we didn't realize

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Speaker 2: Are you doing sexiest? Speech? Speech is like they all

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Speaker 4: But we thought as like girlfriends when he sent that letter,

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Speaker 4: you know, we were young too. We didn't barely We

442
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 4: just show Playboy and then the show.

443
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 1: And I guess when you're that, when you're when you're young,

444
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 1: or when you're sort of excited to go be a

445
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 1: part of something that is different and it's gonna make

446
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 1: you some money and get your exposure and all that, Right,

447
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 1: you don't ask the questions or did you? Or was

448
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 1: it like okay, wait a minute, what does this mean?

449
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 4: When we got on the plane and we're flying out

450
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,159
Speaker 4: and we accepted everything, We're like, are we gonna have

451
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 4: to have sex with him? Like?

452
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 2: What if the girls really have sex with him. We

453
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 2: just started thinking about it.

454
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we were like, well, we can't go

455
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 4: back to well, we already quit our job at.

456
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 2: We'd already stuff in the brawl.

457
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,679
Speaker 4: All the girls were going to shoot Playboy like you know,

458
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 4: and we can't turn back. How did to California? Never

459
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 4: been to California? And so we're just like we're already

460
00:19:59,320 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 4: on our way.

461
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 2: Let's just where this takes us.

462
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 4: We're smart girls, like, thank god, we are siblings, Like

463
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 4: we are very lucky. We're blessed because we do have

464
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 4: each other where like other girls are probably flown out

465
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 4: and they're on their own and they don't know what's

466
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 4: going on, likely on their own when it happened, or

467
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 4: you know, Bridget or Kindra.

468
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 2: But for us, we actually had each other.

469
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 4: So that's we're so lucky to be blessed to be

470
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 4: able to like work with each other throughout our whole

471
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 4: career and have each other.

472
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: And so when you get there and they say, well

473
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 1: here are the rules, like do you did do they

474
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 1: explain to you like here's what do you have to

475
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 1: do to be a girlfriend?

476
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 4: It took a minute or have to be like, oh

477
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 4: my god. But they kind of were like schmoozing us.

478
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 4: They were like shoes kissing our butts and like just

479
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 4: kind of giving us all like the benefits of being

480
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 4: We were living at the Playmate House, so when we

481
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 4: first got there, we didn't move straight into the Playboy mansion.

482
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 2: We went to the Playmate House, which was across the street.

483
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 4: Like Aaron Spelling literally lived the house next door, so

484
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 4: i was like the Playboy mentioned. Then there was the

485
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,479
Speaker 4: Bunny House right across the street, and then Aaron Spelling's

486
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 4: house there and.

487
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: Jimmy. We had a great neighborhood, so it was like

488
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 2: across it was walk across the street. Oh yeah, it

489
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: was just like he had us right across the street.

490
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 4: And so we were there like three nights and you know,

491
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 4: he just got our nineteenth birthday was from nineteenth birthday

492
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 4: was coming up, and he had invited us out to

493
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 4: dinner and a club. We're getting in a limo, We're

494
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 4: going with all these playmates. We're going with you know,

495
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 4: the girls next door that we're famous at the time,

496
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 4: And for us, this is like the first time we've

497
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 4: actually been celebrated as like you guys are gorgeous, like.

498
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: Like for us, this was like the first time we

499
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: were on.

500
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: Hollywood going out, Was it excite? Was it exciting? Was

501
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: it so fun?

502
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: So here's the thing we honestly to be honest, yeah,

503
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: fans of that.

504
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: Famous great movie.

505
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: I grew up to that.

506
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that was like we've always looked up to

507
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 4: those So for us, we're like, we're in the industry

508
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 4: where it's all happening.

509
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: It was not like a ton of opportunities. It wasn't

510
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: just a Playboy for us.

511
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 4: We were like, maybe Victoria secut or maybe we're gonna act,

512
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 4: and we got into a movie right away. Like for

513
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 4: us the first year we were there, we got into

514
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: Sophia Coppola's movie some Somewhere started, so like we got

515
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 4: into movies right away, Like it wasn't just really Victoria's Secret.

516
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: They turned us down and they're like, since you did Playboy,

517
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 4: you can't do Victoria's Secret. Boxes on there, And then

518
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 4: we realized we're we're in the.

519
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: X rated in this industry.

520
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: As soon as I guess we did Playboy, that was

521
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 4: like boom check, you can't do anything like class I mean,

522
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: like Victoria's Secret or more mainstream I guess right.

523
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're at the clubs you're you're in la,

524
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: you're feeling it's fun, you get you're dressing cool, you

525
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: feel sexy. It's all it's all happening.

526
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: It's all happening.

527
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: It's all happening. And what about what about boys? Like

528
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: are you allowed to date boys? Are you allowed to

529
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: sort of you know what I mean? Like how do

530
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: you experience relationships or sex or having fun?

531
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 4: So, like we said, he did when we moved in.

532
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 4: He didn't give us the rules, but we just got

533
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 4: yelled at we did wrong. The longer we were the

534
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 4: more he would be like, well, this is off limits,

535
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: this is off limits, you know. So nine o'clock curfew,

536
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 4: nine pm curfew unless you're out with him. You had

537
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 4: a nine Friday, Saturday and Sunday it was five pm

538
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: curfew because dinner started at five Friday.

539
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: Saturday, we did old school movies.

540
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 4: Sundays were movies that were in theaters and so we

541
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 4: could in silent films, so we could see a movie

542
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 4: that was in theaters now and sen.

543
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: Yet like it was pretty cool.

544
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 4: So but like since Weriday, Sunday and Sunday at five

545
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 4: o'clock was a curfew, nine o'clock was every other day.

546
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: But like, no, he never said no boys, but you're

547
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: not allowed no boys. Because when we first started filming

548
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 4: the movie for Sofia Copla starring story was it somewhere, Yeah,

549
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 4: Christina and Steven Dorf very clicked. So yeah, we played

550
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 4: a love We had a love interest, and he had

551
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 4: found out and he had read the script before us,

552
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: before we even even knew we had a movie opportunity.

553
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: He came in and read the script and said, oh,

554
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 4: it's it's Fred Durst and on assing scene and I'm like,

555
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 4: are you telling me know I'm not allowed to do

556
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 4: this or what because he's coming and giving us the news,

557
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 4: like he's giving us this and it's not Yeah, but anyways,

558
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: it happened to be Stephen Dorf and we had to

559
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: audition three times and go to Sofia for three times.

560
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: And then Sophia Coppa.

561
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 4: Actually we're so shocked because we're Italian and she's Italian

562
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 4: and we're friends. We're fans of her dad who did

563
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 4: The Godfather, so we're like, oh my gosh. We Sophia

564
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 4: Copple actually showed up to film a Girl's next Door episode,

565
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: which is reality.

566
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 2: Show at the Playboy mansion.

567
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: That's cool.

568
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: Gosh, this is like this is all same to us. Yeah,

569
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 4: Siffley came there and and wat's just rehearse are we

570
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: had two dance routines in the movie on top of

571
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 4: the other stuff, but she wanted to come to it.

572
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 4: The long story short, So Stephen Dorf likes his mother

573
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 4: had passed away right before, like or right as that

574
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: movie was being shot. So Sophia was a really good

575
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: friend of ours, and she was kind of telling us

576
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 4: go to Stephen got he's got a bar. He's lonely,

577
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 4: like his mom just passed away. Like you girls need

578
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: to be actors. Get out of this reality industry, Like,

579
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: don't get any surgery, don't get your books done to

580
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: the world. She's like, come to Italy, we'll put more

581
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: spots of you in the movie. Have Bene Seel del

582
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: Toro and everything in the mood to come from. And

583
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: she's like, come to Rome, we'll put you. We'll give

584
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 4: you a bigger rule, Like she want to put put

585
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: us more in those So we're like we figured out, okay,

586
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: we want to do acting.

587
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: Well what point or did it get to be sort

588
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: of suffocating where you're like, you know what, like I

589
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: don't want to fucking come home at five pm. I

590
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: don't want to do at nine pm. I'm a I'm

591
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: a young girl in Hollywood. I'm young girls in Hollywood,

592
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: Like I want to go live my life, Like I

593
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: don't like this anymore. When did it get to that point?

594
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: We really at the bottom.

595
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: My minds were like, we just want to take care

596
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: of our Nona, like, we want to take care of

597
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 4: our family.

598
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: We can't go home, sheoke again. Yeah, we're like getting

599
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: in movies.

600
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: And then after the movie she became a galorial France,

601
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: commercials and.

602
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: Five.

603
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 4: Like, we were getting offered so much stuff that the

604
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 4: mansion started holding us back.

605
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: We didn't even know what SAG was. The screen. We

606
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: didn't know what SAG was.

607
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: And they're like, no, you guys are like straight in.

608
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 4: Sophia got you guys straight into the Screen Actors Guild.

609
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 4: So it was good because we were getting paid well.

610
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 4: So it was like the SAG. They were making sure

611
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: we got paid well. Hugh Hefner wasn't making sure we

612
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: got paid well. He was taking all, like most of

613
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: our money and only giving us one thousand dollars every.

614
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: Friday in cash.

615
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: Both of us only a thousand per girlfriend every Friday

616
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: in cash and he'd mark it down, keep it in

617
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: a safe and like you had to go beg him

618
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 4: for it, and he opened it up and he's got

619
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: like his paper you write down, Carosa did this much,

620
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 4: Christina got this much? Okay, I didn't overpay them or

621
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: I didn't underpay them, you know, like he's watching for it,

622
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: sang what and like when the if? We just realized

623
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 4: we outgrew the mansion because he was holding us back,

624
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: and Sofia Coppla really acted as like a second no

625
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: not to us, because she was telling us like you

626
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 4: girls can do so much more. Don't do the boot,

627
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 4: don't surgery, don't do acting last you.

628
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: Know, so then what so then what happened? Like how

629
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: did you how did you exit?

630
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 4: We had to finish the Girls next Door TV show,

631
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 4: which was how long?

632
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: Five and six so two seasons.

633
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: So about two years ishers Yeah it's okay, yeah, and

634
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: at that point where you live, where you have girlfriends

635
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: at that point.

636
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were since we moved in, we were

637
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 4: considered girlfriends.

638
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: Girlfriends okay, eighteen.

639
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 4: To twenty eighteen to twenty yes, because we swore we're

640
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: like we're not going to stay here till twenty one

641
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 4: because we looked at the old girls much older there

642
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: in their thirties, so we're teenagers. We were teenagers and

643
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 4: they were like, you know, the mid thirty older. I'm like,

644
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: I don't want to waste ten years here. We actually

645
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: have a story where we have a gimmick where we're

646
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: like getting casted as twins to do like acting in

647
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 4: bigger rules than just reality TV like the other girls were,

648
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 4: and only certain playmates get to do that, you know,

649
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: So we really wanted to like dive in and do

650
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 4: much as we can. And you know, the entertainment industry

651
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: they want to get you while you're young. The older

652
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: you get as a woman, it's it's not gonna get

653
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 4: any easier.

654
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: So and did you have to like acquiesce to whatever

655
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: he wanted?

656
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: You know?

657
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: So our first Christmas present from uh we call the

658
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 4: house mom, but it's Mary O'Connor gave us a calendar

659
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: for Christmas, our first Christmas there, and it was a

660
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 4: calendar pre filled out of all HEF's schedule, and his

661
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: whole schedule is basically this is your schedule.

662
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: Now you're living his life.

663
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 4: So we're living his life like you have to get

664
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: hair and makeup done at one place, and you have

665
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 4: to go well, hair at one place, make up at

666
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 4: another place right in here, and then you you're by

667
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 4: five o'clock. You have to be back and ready for

668
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: this or whatever Eventy has. So Monday was manly night.

669
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: He would spend Mondays with the men. Wednesdays was card night,

670
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 4: so he'd want to spend Any girl that were across

671
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: the street working or living at the Bunny House would

672
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: come across the street and play Uno or Domino's put

673
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 4: their time.

674
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: So it was like the whole week was taken up.

675
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sure there's so many stories, just

676
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: like I can't even imagine I could talking for ten

677
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: hours about all these stories. It's fascinating to me, just

678
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: that interior, your lifestyle, like how it all went down.

679
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean even the celebrities that showed up there. I

680
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: mean you're propositioned a thousand times by like a thousand celebrities.

681
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

682
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: We always get asked the one question like who was

683
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: the most famous person you met? And we always say

684
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: buzz Aldrin because we're obsessed with space.

685
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: And want to be the first.

686
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's with space, Like we all love space and

687
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: so like buzz Aldream. I remember came to a party

688
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: and Heff was telling us because he knew were upsis

689
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: with space, and he's like this is buzz Aldrin and

690
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: we're like drunk and we're like buzz buzz, like we're

691
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: trying to hear and he's like, yeah, like oh my god,

692
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: you went to the moon, dude, Yeah, and that's like

693
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: that's our celebrity we wanted to meet, Like yeah, but

694
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: and Steven Spielbert and Steven Spielberg.

695
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Filbert, Yeah, of course. Wow, it's such a crazy fascinating life.

696
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: So then how did you exit? You know, how did

697
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: it all? How did you get out? What does life

698
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: look like now? What is the plan? What's the future?

699
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: When the show the show starts coming to an end,

700
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: we actually sibling sibling rivalry over here. We were like fighting,

701
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: if you want to talk about fighting, Like we actually

702
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: had fights in the mansion that he was like with

703
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: each other.

704
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: You really, yeah, like.

705
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: So what do you guys fight about?

706
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: There's a housekeeping closet and you know, Carrissa goes in

707
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: there and we're drunk after a party and we're running

708
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: around basically in underwear through the whole mansion, like it's

709
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: massive and something set up.

710
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: So something set us off. You're arguing. Carissa goes into

711
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: the housekeeper closet and grabs a bottle wind Dex and

712
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: I started spraying in with and I'm like freaking.

713
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 4: Blind and I'm running around and that's like right down

714
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: the hall in his bedroom. So security security watches us

715
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 4: at all times, and they're like he The security goes

716
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: to Heffen. They're like hmh Hugh Marston Heffner, hmh. They're

717
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: fighting security and fighting. Then he comes down, He's like,

718
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: what's going on. I'm like rinsing my eyes out. He's like,

719
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: you guys need to hug it out right now, like

720
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: me and let me finish. She threw a whole thing

721
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: of protein powder. Whamn, so she's full of windocks. I'm

722
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: full of protein powder. And the Andf's looking at us like,

723
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: you guys are fighting and we're like, there's protein powder.

724
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 4: We're fighting right now, drunk, yes, protein powder all this.

725
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: We can't be like, you know, robotic and be happy. Yeah,

726
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: go lucky twins all the time. Boom boo, kiddy fuck

727
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: all the time, Like yeah, we are imperfections, cracked you know,

728
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: we thought that was the one fight pressure pressure, and

729
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 4: he's like at the end of the day, you know

730
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: what he did, He's like, I'll buy you guys a

731
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: new computer. You broke, broke this rivalry fights in there.

732
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then when you were when you left,

733
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: when you were on your own, were you still in it?

734
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: You stay in LA.

735
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: So here's the crazy thing.

736
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: Carissa wanted to leave before I did, so we weren't

737
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: ready to leave it at.

738
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: The same time.

739
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: Ah ready to leave at the same time you because

740
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 4: you were, like Carissa had started dating.

741
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: Oh, we ended up like wanting to leave.

742
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: The mansion and start dating, started dating. We turned half

743
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 4: we were ready to leave and have.

744
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: Said we did.

745
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: You guys can have like you can move into the

746
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: playmatehouse and maybe you'll change your mind after you've got

747
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: some freedom, which is right across the street.

748
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: We moved out.

749
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: Know that that freedom gave us time to like explore

750
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: l A and like find.

751
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: Out what's out beyond the ground.

752
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: We were to leave, able to leave homeby Hills and

753
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. We could leave homebe Hills, Beverly Hills. So

754
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: like it was like we got to actually we we

755
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: we called Mary. We called Mary O'Connor staff over here,

756
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 4: and we go to her and we tell her, look,

757
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: we want to leave, but we want to stay on

758
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: great terms.

759
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: So this is like, how do you break up with you?

760
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: Half her?

761
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: So she kind of helped us. Ande's like, all right,

762
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: let's call him down here, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait,

763
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: don't cal him down right now. We're not ready to

764
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: talk about this.

765
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: Help you.

766
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: And so we had talked about and just said like,

767
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: we didn't want to be here, we want to you know,

768
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: you're kind of holding us back.

769
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: We wanted to do other things. So she brought him down.

770
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: He walks down to the office and he's like, let

771
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: me guess you guys are leaving me.

772
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: He knew right away, like you're.

773
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: Breaking up with me? And what the fuck?

774
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were breaking up with him. But so

775
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: Carissa ended up moving out all right. Well, he put

776
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: us to the guest house to play, not the guests

777
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: at the planmate house. The guest house was still in

778
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 4: the property. Playmate house was across the street next to

779
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: Aaron Spelling, and he gave us the room we wanted.

780
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, he put us at the playmate house and says,

781
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: this will make us closer, like you'll want me, you'll

782
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: want to come started dating, And he also cut our

783
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: allowance back from one thousand to five hundred dollars. And

784
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: the rule was we had to still go to every Sunday,

785
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 4: Funday event or and every night and night, so Friday, Saturday,

786
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 4: and Sunday we had to be there.

787
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 2: Keep up, keep up the appearances and stuff.

788
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: So that fall apart because we weren't staying there and

789
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: keeping up on appearances. Kept just moving out and we

790
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 4: stopped coming home, and and we get these voicemails and

791
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: he's like, hey, honey, you look up at his black book,

792
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: like it's like the one that you push and then

793
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: it just through. And it's like he's got the black

794
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: book full of everyone's phone number and he's dialing the

795
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 4: old school, leaving leaving voicemails.

796
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like, you guys aren't home. I just

797
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: want to know where you're.

798
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: At, if you're safe, and we're like, yeah, you know,

799
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: we're safe.

800
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And then you eventually moved out and you

801
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: like to move yea.

802
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: So we moved out.

803
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 4: I moved into a boyfriend's house at the time. That

804
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: was a really crappy boyfriend. She moved into the Playmatehouse

805
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: and started so I was still living there by myself.

806
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: Oh.

807
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: So we opened up a beauty salon in twenty fourteen

808
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: called Glam Beverly Hills, right off Well Show and Robertson

809
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: on that corner Sineway, and we became the youngest members

810
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: of Beverly Hills Chamber of Commerce.

811
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: But the same our mother died. She died, Oh, the

812
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: only family we had.

813
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 4: So like we had millions of dollars for the first time,

814
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: we had our own beauty salon. We had all the

815
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: freedom in the world and twenty four youngest members of

816
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: Beverlyhiels Chambers of Commerce. And then Nona dies and like

817
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 4: that was like our compass, our our foundations.

818
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: And she died. We went off to the wall, like

819
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 2: really depressed. We had no family.

820
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: So it was and then the playboy family that we

821
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: did have because we broke up with Puff, that was abandons.

822
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 4: It was just abandonment, abandonment, abandonment, abandonment. So that's why

823
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 4: we always say we're trauma bonded.

824
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So then how did you after Nona? After

825
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: Nona passed? What was what was the move. I mean,

826
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: did you still you still had your business? Did you

827
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: get we had this idea?

828
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 4: So this is like the first time we had no

829
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 4: idea what we wanted. So we've always been had strong

830
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: and like, we had no idea what we wanted to do.

831
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: After sure, that's the way, we're like, what do we do?

832
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: What's our purpose?

833
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: Here?

834
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: Was the thing you do? We make proud.

835
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 4: In California for commercial real estate, you have to sign

836
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: for if you're not buying the place, you have to

837
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: have three years you rent it, and then after the

838
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 4: three years you have to sign up for five years.

839
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: After that malandatory. So we got Glamberg the Hill Salon,

840
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: and we sign up for the three years, and then

841
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: after the three years were done, they were like, you

842
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: have to do five years.

843
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: So how are you able to get sober and sort

844
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: of put your life back on a better track.

845
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 4: When we moved to Michigan is like when we decided,

846
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 4: so we decided to get out of California.

847
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, so so that's let's go there, Like

848
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: why did you move? Why did you move to Michigan.

849
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 4: So it was the third year of our salon. The

850
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: Bilm movement had came along. Everyone was doing like these

851
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 4: riots and boulevard. We were primetime Beverly Hills. The whole

852
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 4: front of our salon was glass, and people kept breaking

853
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 4: in and stealing our cash out of our register, and

854
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: I was just like, you know, California is getting bad.

855
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: All our friends started moving. Stephen Dorfa moved to Nashville,

856
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: and then everybody else was moving to Florida. So it's

857
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 4: like everybody in LA was constantly like, we're going to Nashville,

858
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: We're going to Florida, We're going to like they were

859
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: all moving. Everyone was leaving on at this time. So

860
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: we were like, let's leave, and we didn't know where

861
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 4: we wanted to go because our mother had passed away,

862
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: had family to go to to my dad, We have

863
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 4: no nobody, So we thought we were born in our arbor.

864
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: Let's just go to an We're too known in Floye.

865
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: We're recognized on Floria. Let's go to Ann Arbor, Michigan.

866
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: Nobody's there, there's no paparazzi.

867
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: We wanted to be normal.

868
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long have you lived there now?

869
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: Pictures We've been here now six years, and so.

870
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 1: What do you do it? What do you what's your plan,

871
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: what are you doing in an arbor or what's the future.

872
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: So we were walking at houses in Florida. Really okay,

873
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 4: so after we got our break, No, we got a

874
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: breakout here and we realized she can served its purpose. No,

875
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: we like we looked at the Scott Eastwoods and we

876
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 4: were like settling for like that movie, like when you

877
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 4: look at the movies and you're like the country boy

878
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 4: coming to Michigan. We find like a cowboy and just.

879
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: Settle down in normal life. No one's going to paparazzi

880
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: us anymore.

881
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: Right, it was good for privacy and healing, but it's

882
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 4: time to get back out there. And that's why right

883
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 4: now we're out there, like it's taken a six year old.

884
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: What's the plan?

885
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: So we just put so here's our thing. We just

886
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: had thirty five.

887
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: So you're you're born in eighty nine, so you are

888
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: forty four forty five, uh thirty five thirty five right, yeah, okay, So.

889
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: We're just like we wanted to only like because we

890
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: did the Celebrity Big Brother UK in twenty twelve, so

891
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: we kind of just wanted to step in and do

892
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: like maybe an appearance on a reality show like we

893
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 4: did before, like go to do the Traders TV show.

894
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: We really want to do Traders, like maybe start getting.

895
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: Into some reality, should do a podcast maybe, so kind

896
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: of like Drew Barrymore, we thought we could host the

897
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: TV show. We're pretty like we're pretty cool at that,

898
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: or maybe get back into a little bit of a

899
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 4: something something, but not full time.

900
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: So we hit up our.

901
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: Old agents from who we have when we were eighteen.

902
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: We've just been working and then we just came out

903
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 4: with this article for People magazine magazine and we rolled in.

904
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 4: It's rolled in to everybody story from us just being honest,

905
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 4: and we're really in shock because like usually our whole

906
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 4: career it's always been about like Hugh Hefner or the

907
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: Playboy or the other girls. So it was like we

908
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: were really shocked that people actually cared about our story.

909
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: We were and like how we started and stuff. And

910
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 4: then like once people heard the truth thought of us

911
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 4: and that wasn't filtered and stuff like yeah, because we

912
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: have came from a lot, like we are very blessed

913
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: to have each other, because we came from a very

914
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: badly physically abusive family with my father coming from that.

915
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: My father, well you you guys, are each your saving graces?

916
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: It seems you know, you lean and rely on each other.

917
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: Of course you're twins and there's that connectivity that just

918
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: goes unconsciously. But there's also like you need each other,

919
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: you know exactly you need each other. And so if

920
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: you go to Florida, you go to Florida. Or when

921
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: are you moving? Are you like soon?

922
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: We're going to move to book atone July July?

923
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: Okay now? And the plans just to keep keep continuing

924
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: what you're doing.

925
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: We're open to dating now, we're open to I was about.

926
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: To say, what's up with men? You know, how long

927
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: has it been? How long has it been?

928
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: So we haven't dated in six years? Six seven?

929
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: Wow?

930
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: Like no, seriously, no sex, no nothing.

931
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: People say to us, so like you're so gorgeous, and

932
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: you know, all of a sudden, like how do you

933
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: not have a boyfriend?

934
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: I're like, we have to get this right first, we

935
00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 2: have to get up here.

936
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's impressive. Six years. Wow, gets So what

937
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: happens if one of you falls in love then the

938
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: other one doesn't.

939
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 4: That's the thing I have to approve of each other's

940
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 4: significant other, Like we have to approve of them.

941
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: What Christina is like, I'm fucking in love and I'm

942
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: getting married and I've moved in with a dude.

943
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 4: Well, the most recent thing we've talked about with our

944
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 4: manager is a dating show. So like we're really thinking

945
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 4: about doing a dating show, and most of them like

946
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: they're not successful.

947
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: It's like kind of fake.

948
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: But no, we're really looking. I really want to settle down.

949
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 4: We want my kids, we want to have kids, we

950
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: want to have a big fire.

951
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: I know, but do you need to do all of

952
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: this together? Yeah? How is it possible to find a

953
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: dude at the same time? You know? I mean, so

954
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: we're just praying.

955
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: I mean we pray about it and like, I don't know,

956
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 4: I just feel like it's gonna have it's gonna happen.

957
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: Okay, good feeling like it's gonna happen.

958
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: Like, honestly, I feel like we're kind of psychic, you know,

959
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: we're like, Okay, that's crazy, but we're kind of really Okay.

960
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a question. Do you guys

961
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: have the same idea of like a perfect man?

962
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so we used to have the opposite, but

963
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: now we like the same type.

964
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Of give me, give me the perfect dude.

965
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 4: Older, more established, funny, very kind, the nerdy we need nerdy.

966
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: I like the bad boys that were assholes and there

967
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: were hot. Yeah, I just go for the for the nerds.

968
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: It's not hot and nerdy, older and successful.

969
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, exactly, someone who can fall in love with, yes,

970
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: and someone who's someone who won't hit on my sister.

971
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to look up at the both of us.

972
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: Okay, got it? But but but do you have to

973
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: be attracted to the person though.

974
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: Well, I've been eyeing Elon Musk Chris. He's an Eyeland.

975
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: I know it's a bad example. Know what she really is,

976
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: what I really have been. I'm thinking of reaching out.

977
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, go for it. He has a lot of kids, don't.

978
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 4: Fall in love maybe, like because I know Elon Musk

979
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: has like ten kids.

980
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what I'm saying is, do you have

981
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: to be attracted to the person or do you want,

982
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: like a nerd who's successful be.

983
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 4: Treated right after everything we've been through, the most attractive

984
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 4: looks a busy looks for a bonus for us, Like

985
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: what we've learned is like the way we're treated and

986
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 4: their characters what we look for, so Honestly, we're not

987
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: like shallow where we're looking for looks like if you're funny,

988
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: if you're trusting, and.

989
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: You're loyal, and you're you're good.

990
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: To my family and my family and they have nothing

991
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: negative to say, Like that's all we're looking for, like

992
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: a good like someone not normal, but you know, you

993
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: know like.

994
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: That it's hard, you know, powerful man?

995
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, we like powerful men, you do, Yeah, because we're

996
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 4: very we're very alpha and we're very.

997
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: We say it like, hey, you can scare off some guys.

998
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: You do, you do? You do say that?

999
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1000
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 4: Maybe being with half kind of made us more attracted

1001
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: to a powerful kind of guy. Not like that we

1002
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: were attracted to, but it's just the powerful being experienced

1003
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: to that, exposed to that, and.

1004
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like we like the more powerful kind of.

1005
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well this would be good. Florida's probably the better

1006
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: place to go. Well, we've gone way over time because

1007
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm just fucking so fascinated with with your story. I

1008
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: mean I could talk to our hours about all the

1009
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: intricate sort of.

1010
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 4: Ongoing use our iPhone camelo yeah yeah, yeah, no, but

1011
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: we've got talking to you. Honestly, you made it, you know,

1012
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 4: very comfortable.

1013
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh good, we enjoyed it.

1014
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's our first podcast.

1015
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: Oh good. Well, I'm I'm I'm happy to be the first.

1016
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: Well I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. Good

1017
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: luck with it all, and thanks for telling your story

1018
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: and thanks for being so candid. You know, honestly, it's

1019
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: the best way to be. Yeah, good luck finding that dude.

1020
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 4: Or dude, dude.

1021
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: Dude men two men. No no no no no no

1022
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: no no no, ok you, thank you guys. Okay, bye,

1023
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do an outro. I'm going to

1024
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: just let you sting that for a second. Oliver Hudson

1025
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: out ah.