WEBVTT - Ep. 31: Bear Grease [Render] - Tough Bowhunting, OnX Dudes, and Analyzing Folsom 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:17.080 Yeah, my name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.680 of the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.200 where we render down, dive deeper, and looked behind the 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:30.040 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320 HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:44.240 as designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. Hey, guys, 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.720 before we jump into the Surrender, I want to tell 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.400 you about meat Eater Gifts. From December six through December 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.160 of all sale orders over fifty dollars on the meat 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.760 Eater store website will be donated to organizations handpicked by 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.280 the team. 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All right, I 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.840 just want you guys to know that, uh, this is 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.120 like a little insider info here, because you guys are 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.840 a whole new crew. You're gonna be heavily scrutinized by 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:06.520 the regular render people. Okay, so every word you say 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.880 is going to be evaluated. It's gonna be talked about 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:15.000 amongst the group. So who's usually other render is my wife, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.800 Mimry Nukam, sharp as attack, will pin you to the 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:23.440 wall if you get a fact wrong. Brent Reeves, witty 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.840 as they come. Daniel Rupe, I mean that guy. You 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.120 don't want to mess with him. So I'm not trying 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.320 to uh, I'm not trying to scare you, just trying 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.640 to tell you you're gonna be scrutinized because we have 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.800 a new group. Welcome to the Burgary Surrender guys. So 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:41.880 we have a totally new crew. There's this has only 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.959 happened one other time, So welcome to the Burgery Srender. Man. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.400 I can't wait to introduce all you guys. So we 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.040 are in northwest Arkansas in the midst of the worst 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:57.720 white tailed deer hunt that probably have ever had. And 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:02.320 uh it's been in the seventies every day for Arkansas, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:07.160 which is very hot, and we've been hunting. Tomorrow will 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:11.240 be our fifth day of hunting and we've we've killed 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.320 one dough and one cotton tail rabbit. We won't go 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:21.480 into the details of who killed these animals, but maybe 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.600 later we will. Now, let me introduce my guest to 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.240 my left, Jared Larson of on X. Jared. It's an 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.120 honored be here, Clay. I'm welcome man. I'm stoked to 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.880 be on the bear Gara surrender and I'm excited about 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.760 talking about the falesome sight. Yeah. As tough as the 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.520 hunting has been this week, me and my cameraman White Cole, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.880 we're talking. When we crawled out of our stand this morning, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.160 we've barely seen a deer. And this has been one 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.720 of the funniest weeks in deer camp just because of 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.840 the camaraderie and UH and the entertainment value that the 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.800 boys have brought to YEA. You know what, justin I 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.240 kind of had the same conversation on the way out 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:03.920 of the woods after basically seeing nothing today, I just said, man, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.400 it sure seems like we've had a good time. Shouldn't 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.200 we be having a bad time because we have such 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.280 a bad hunt? I mean, why this more? I was like, dude, 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.080 it's already Thursday. And I was like, well, yeah, you're right, 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.800 which usually doesn't happen when you sit for four days 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.000 in a row without seeing deer. Yeah, it's tough. So, Jared, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:24.080 what do you so? So, guys, Okay, introductions go slow. Okay, 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.240 So we're gonna take our time here. This is important. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.680 People are important, Rusty Johnson, Jared, what do you do 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.520 for on X so? I am the white tail marketing 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.520 manager for lack of better term, at on X. Tell 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.479 us what on X is? I mean, most people would know, 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.080 but there's something that wouldn't yep. So on X I 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.680 work on the on X hunt app team, um, and 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.480 we build a GPS mapping app that change your smartphone 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.599 into a functional GPS whether you have service, whether you 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.240 don't have service. Our bread and butter is private landownership 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.200 data um. But it's it's used for a plethora of 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:04.960 different game species from hunting elk in Washington to squirrels 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:09.080 in West Virginia. Um, if you like to hunt, heck, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.680 if you just like to get outside, there is going 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.760 to be value for you in the on X hunt app. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:18.880 If nothing else, it keeps you from getting lost. Hey, okay, Rusty, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.360 if do you ever feel like we're getting punked by 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.520 the cell phone companies and maybe even by these guys 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.840 when we don't have cell service and they can still 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:33.280 our phones are still GPS? Is right? I mean you 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.599 know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's one of my favorite 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.000 features is the offline no kid and we we have 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.359 a lot of Jared Well, you know, you punch in 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.320 two lines of code to some software engineering and it's done, 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.800 and your phone's GPS. Used to GPS was like a 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.560 big deal. You have to go like buy your own 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.760 GPS and anymore. Not so on X man, good to 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.240 have you, guys. I'm gonna go out of order and 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.680 I'm gonna introduce Zack Sandow. Zack you work for on 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.159 X two. I didn't come to the burgeras rerender. Yes, 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.520 thank you, I'm excited. I've been listening to these since 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:10.039 the first one. Hey, he really doesn't he pulls up man, Okay, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.360 if you listen to the Burgeries podcast, Clay nucom knows 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.960 it real quick. I could go through and I could 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.120 tell each one of you guys how many times you've 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.560 listened to it and how many times you have based 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.159 up on basically, like you know how they're tracking you know, 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:30.239 these companies track people's data. Not I tracked my friends 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.719 data on how much they've listened to the Burgeries podcast. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.279 And Zack Sandal listens to it because he was pulling 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.480 up little facts from the Boon podcast like weeks ago. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.360 He was like, man that when Dan Boone did that. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.320 I was like, you really listen, don't you? And he 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:49.080 was like yeah, so honestly for me, like it's when 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.240 it first came out. We work with you anyways. But 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.680 the storytelling of it was sweet. And I do a 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.960 lot of drives hunting season, Like when I'm driving across state, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.320 it's the perfect thing to listen to a good mix 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.799 up from the trick aditional podcast, especially in the hunting industry. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:04.960 I mean it was easy, like I just had him. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.000 I download four or five of them and listened to 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:08.760 him on a full trip there and back, and so 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.200 it was always great but yeah, no, I'm pumped. I'm 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:16.120 pumped talking about this one. Um myself, I've worked it 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:20.760 on X for six years now. I managed the Hunt team, 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.160 work with marketing team, and then the folks. We have 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.160 a you know, awesome team in our company as well. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.360 You know, we have our Hunt product, that's our baby, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.480 that's what got us started. But now we have an 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.960 off road product, and then we also have backcountry products. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.320 So we've growned quite a bit since Jared and I 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.520 first started. There was thirty two people when I started, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.760 and what was it like fifty sixty when Jared started, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.640 And we're much much bigger than that now four and 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.120 half and six years later, so it's been really cool. 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.000 Now you're originally from Montana, yep. I was born and 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.840 raised in Missoula, Montana. So the home office is yeah, 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.720 that's cool. Yeah, and now Jared, you're from Wisconsin. Yes, yes, 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.600 White Tails, White Tales. So to your left, Jared is 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.400 my buddy, justin MI show, justin Welcome to the Burger's 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.760 your intermat buddy. I feel like I've been on this 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.840 just by hanging in a tree with you. Yeah, we've 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.160 had a podcast going for five days. I talked Justin's 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.720 ear off and together, just NonStop chatterbox. I learned a 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:26.480 lot from you, man. So Justin, Justin went to Canada 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.800 with me this year and filmed, and then he's been 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.880 with me this whole week in film. We didn't know 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.319 each other before that though, so back in September when 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.840 we first met, and we've had a great time. Justin 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.400 is extremely talented and good at what he does. Let 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.520 me just tell you if you're if you're needing a 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.560 I better not say this. People from other companies might 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:51.360 listen to this. If you're going on fighting Mark Me 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.920 and Mark Kenyan fight over Justin when we're tree stand 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.559 white tail hunting because he's the man. So no, Justin's 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.360 really good photographer, really good videographer, really good to have 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.040 hanging in a tree with you in A good white 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.760 tail hunter too, So I go to him for advice 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.080 what you wish would do. Justin hadn't worked too much 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:15.559 this week, but yeah, you know sent control, so sent control, 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.280 that's right, that's right. Now. I'm kid. You're from New York, yes, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.839 not originally of kids, South Carolina. So I feel like 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.600 with these accents that are flying around here, I feel 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.960 a little bit like I'm at home. But um, yeah, 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:33.080 because all the Yankee accents. No, no, no, no, you guys, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.880 the Arkansas boys. It feels like South Carolina. You guys 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.400 got the same Southern flair. And I was just the 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.560 gas station. They had fried chicken by the register. I 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.040 knew I was in the right place. But yeah, I 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.480 got a lot of kids, not a lot. Three three 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.959 kids are all great. To your left, to Justin's left, 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:58.920 my old buddy, Rusty Johnson, how's it going, man, It 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.760 is going good. I'm glad to be here finally sharing 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.839 a camp with Clay nuclem Man. Rusty and I have 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.559 known each other since two thousand seven when I killed 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.960 a deer and you were an official pope and Young Score. Yeah, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.480 looked you up. However, we found Pope Young Scores back then, 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.360 probably on the internet and uh, you know it's probably 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.480 in like a Yellow Pages book. It's probably like that 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:27.920 long long time ago. Yeah, but no, it's it's been 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.000 fun hunting with this week. Yeah, yeah, it's been a joy. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.040 We've had a blast. Yeah. What what do you think 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.160 about all this? This has been like ridiculous, hadn't Oh man, 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:42.280 this is probably the hottest and probably hardest hunt I've 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.959 ever had this time of year here in Arkansas. I mean, 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.440 it's is so unusual. I can't I don't know that 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.200 we've broke records, but it would surprise me if we didn't. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:56.120 Seventy six degrees on September or December two unreal. So, uh, 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.000 we're gonna go around here in a minute and talk 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.960 about Rusty. But to you or left, we got we 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.000 got a couple of guys that aren't don't have headsets 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:06.920 that are here. We'll go back to them. But to 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.120 your left is your son, Rustin Johnson. What's going on? 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.800 How are you doing? Man? I'm doing really good. When 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.240 I met Rusting, he was just a little, just a 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.400 little dude. I was still chubby, but I was a little. Yeah. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:27.400 I taught you resting six three. If six three and 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.040 you're you're you're not h You're not exactly petite at 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.240 six at six three, man, I'm anywhere between three and 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.440 four hundred pounds. It depends on what time of year, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:42.320 if I'm in hibernation or not. Oh man, well, you 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.680 guys are so fun to watch. Father and son team. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:49.400 How are you? And your dad turned fifty just a 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.440 few days ago at camp. Just turn it's been because 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.440 he looks young for his age. He does. It looks good, 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:00.640 clean living man. We'll talk about rusties. Uh. We want 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.680 to get a hunter to talk a little bit about rusties. Uh. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:08.400 Hunting style. But so the other guy that's here, it's hunter, 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.679 rude Hunter, you're where are you from? I'm from Southeast Minnesota, 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.720 Southeast Minnesota, and you've been hunting with Rusty Johnson all week? 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.320 Give us Okay, what are you going to tell people 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.040 about Rusty when you go back home next week? When 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.079 you talk about his white tail hunting, his eccentricities, all 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.960 these things would describe him to us. He loves hunting 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.240 white tails more than anybody on this earth, like there's 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:34.240 no argument against it. And he spends more time in 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.840 a tree than anybody. I mean, his straight up tactic 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.720 is get a picture of a buck and then just 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.839 go sit in the tree and wait for him to 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:47.400 come back. It's real simple. Just spend as many hours 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.000 in a tree as you possibly can, even if it's 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:54.560 three hours before sunrise. I mean we've been waking up 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:59.240 at like, well he wakes up at like I don't know. Yeah, 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.200 I've been in about and I come downstairs and he's 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:08.840 sitting in the kitchen, fully dressed, waiting. We were joking 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.360 this morning, um Hunter. Hunter was real proud of himself 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.440 because on day three he felt like he'd woke up 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.040 before Rusty and was gonna be ready. Because the first 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.720 day Rusty said, we're truck is rolling out at four o'clock, 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.960 and the guys like woke up Hunter at like three 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.000 fifty seven. It was four o'clock. It was four o'clocks 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.760 and I was going out the door at four or three. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.959 That's pretty good. Yeah, And then and then so a 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.640 couple of days later, he's like, Okay, I've been trained 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.880 by Rusty. Now I'm gonna beat Rusty down the stairs 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.480 and he cut. He walks in, He flips on the 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:50.680 lights and there's Rusty sitting waiting, sitting in the darkest 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.959 like I'm tapping his foot very impatiently, like like looking 0:13:55.960 --> 0:14:02.240 at like trucks running, everything's ready to go. It's just like, man, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.679 this dude loves it, and you can't get enough. And 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.520 you've been sitting long days. Yeah, we've been doing all 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.199 day sits. And I mean, like, well, we get down 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.080 and switch trees, but you're still in the woods all day, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.480 but it'll be like seventy five degrees. And this dude 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.800 is like one might just walk by at noon and 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.760 you know, even though you know he might get thirsty. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.240 Me and Justin. It was actually Justin's idea. So today, 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.520 so we have this group text thread going, you know, 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.440 and uh, it turns out I'm kind of in the 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.000 lead on like the point system we have going here. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.040 I wouldn't I wouldn't gonna mention who killed the deer 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:40.000 and the rabbit, but Justin. So we decided we were 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.680 gonna get down at like ten o'clock this morning, and 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.480 what I was gonna say about Justin. We're coming back 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.680 to rusty, but I'm gonna talk about Justin. Justin every 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.600 single day at about eight thirty starts talking about sausage, 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:58.440 gravy and brutal and he'll start, He'll start like glaring 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.400 into my eyes and kind of lean for ward and go, man, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.840 some flaky biscuits and some sausage gravy eggs, eggs, buttery eggs, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.720 and he sees it works on me. I kind of 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.520 started to soften up a little bit. And so we go, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.240 we get down and he said, I said, well, maybe 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.280 it was my idea. It was your idea. You go 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:20.920 to throw me under the bus, and I was gonna 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.840 stay there, but I said, I'll tell you what. Let's do. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:28.400 Let's go to the town over here, twenty miles me, 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.800 you and Zach because Zach was hunting with us. Let's 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.880 get a big country breakfast and get back to camp. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.320 About you know, twelve thirty one o'clock, everybody's gonna be 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.360 wondering where we're at. And what were you gonna say? 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:44.080 Justin we've been hitting the herd? Were you you were 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.520 gonna say anything could happened? Because anything you happen to happen, 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.240 you gotta be out there. But he was mocking Rusty 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.600 what Breasty would say, So it was really funny. We laughed, 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.040 We laughed. We didn't get breakfast. So I don't think 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.160 that food trick would work on my dad, Rusty. He 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.720 doesn't eat like at all during deer season. You know. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.560 The first day I sat with him, I was monitoring that, 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.680 and uh, he ate a Hershey's Kenny bar with the 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.560 nuts in it, and that's like his go to drink 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.760 one bottle of water at noon. He ate a granola 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.960 bar and that was it. All day said all day. Meanwhile, 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:26.040 I'm on like your three thousand calories. And there was 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.200 also a rumor going around the camp the first day 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.240 that like in an all day sit like setting across 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:36.960 from you, you're filming them. He said like ten words. Uh. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.400 Kind of warmed up later in the week, Yeah, we did. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.120 Like day three, we talked about beaver chapping. We got 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.520 really close after that, but that that was like two 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.880 minutes two minutes max. I mean we're in there to 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.040 kill a deer, you know. Yeah, I mean you can't 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.280 kill a deer if you're talking. Well, that's not necessarily 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.840 strange that this strange that, Yeah, like out of the team, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:05.040 Nukeamshoe is winning. I mean we've been passing the last 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:14.120 couple of days, pass them if they're a hundred thirty yards. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:19.040 Were at about ten you were saying brown, it's down. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:23.800 I mean, Rusty has high standards. Now, what I did 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.680 learn about Rusty on this on this trip, you get 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:33.520 like anxiety before a hunt, like excitement anxiety. Absolutely, talk 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.320 to us about that can help you. Well. When I 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.440 wake up, I mean I'm so worked, I don't get 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.720 much sleep, you know, when I'm hunting like this, and 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.520 when I wake up in the morning, I have this gag. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.360 I mean, I just start gagging because I'm I've got 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.000 so much excitement and I'm so ready to go. I mean, 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.720 it just it's the anxiety. I mean, it's just I'm 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.040 so excited about often would you say you feel that 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:59.600 much excitement slash anxiety about a white to hunt? Every 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.760 day that I go, I hear the puke and every 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.719 time see I'm still like asleep, but he wakes me 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.440 up about to leave and he's puking. Dagon. This is 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:16.840 after four days. I've done this for years. I've just 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.520 I mean, I love it so much that it just 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.440 it just gets to me. I don't know what it Dared, 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.640 What do you think about this? It blows my mind, 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.920 Like I mean, I love white tail hunting. Um, but 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:32.320 Rusty getting up like a full solid two hours before 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.800 everybody else in camp. I mean the fact that he 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.720 sits in the dark, drinking coffee, waiting for his camera 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:44.200 like he is beyond the next level. And I will 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:48.879 echo Hunter's sentiment that throw some names out there that 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.480 might like white tailed deer hunting as much as Rusty Johnson. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.560 And let's put him in the camp together. Let's see 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:59.719 my money's on Rusty, like whatever it is. You snapchat 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.560 at me earlier this week and the you had the 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.719 little temperature gage on it was sixty seven and it 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.520 was like one pm. You had the time stamp on there, 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:10.760 and you said, we're sitting in a food plot waiting 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.520 for one. And I just was dying because the rest 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.960 of us were sitting in camp eating sandwiches and you're 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.560 playing justin. They were shocked, pouch and one out. Yea, 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.520 that could be true. Rusty was sitting on a food 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:28.680 plot in seven December one waiting not a big one. 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:34.040 We've seen a big one, big spike Minnesota eleven point 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:37.520 as you've northern Minnesota eleven Okay, we would have had 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.119 a big one down. But I was in school for 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:40.879 most of the time. This is the first day I've 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:45.080 got the hunt. Yeah. Yeah, I've been hitting the books. Yeah, 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.359 Rusting is in law school. Yeah, shock of the camp. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:50.760 I mean, I've known this for years, but you look 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.040 like a lawyer. I'm in my last year law school. 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.200 I feel like I've been in school forever. But it's going. 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.600 That's awesome, man, that is almost to the finish line. 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.080 I couldn't know a guy like that. Just get trouble, 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:06.080 you know, never know. Hey, the guy that I haven't 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.679 introduced yet, it's Dalton, Dalton. How's it going? Man? Awesome? Man, 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.480 it's awesome to be hard to say about Rusty. You 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.160 know Rusty, but as well as anybody. There's huge pros 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.520 and cons to hunting with Rusty, and I think the 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.040 guys have touched it pretty good. The only negative to 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.679 hunting with Rusty is you start questioning how much you 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.080 actually like to deer hunt. Like that's the best way 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.320 I can describe it. You think that you love hunting, 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.360 and you get hyped up. I sat with this guy 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:31.320 for thirteen days in Kansas, so we we hunted thirteen days. 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.439 I think the first five we don't know that we 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.639 saw a deer. We hit it terrible timing. We had 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.720 to make adjustments. And he's not joking. Every single morning 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.439 that light came on at to thirty in the morning. 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:42.920 I don't set alarms when I stay with him anymore 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.320 because the dry heating wakes, the dry heating will wait. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.160 So this is verified by multiple sources. Yeah, you don't 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:50.840 even set alarm. You might just you may want to 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.919 get that checked out, buddy, But that's incredible. Thou mean 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.119 it's December, right, It's December on one of the hardest 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.680 times we've been on UH in years, and he's still 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.320 he's that way every single time. And you killed a 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.400 big buck. You've killed two good bucks this year, have Yeah, 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.639 And he killed a big one in public Land I 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.920 did a week ago. Yeah, I'm I'm excited about that one, 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.080 but I'm I'm also a little bit sad about it 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.840 because that's a buck that Rustin was chasing. He hunted 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.280 his butt off for that buck, and I go in 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.760 there in two days and knocked him down. But sorry, 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:29.280 but that's just that. Yeah, that's it's a really nice uh. 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.720 It's the biggest eight point I've ever killed. Yeah, and 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.320 I've killed some pretty good eight points. Well, I asked 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.680 him about his last biggest eight point because I also 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.560 had that one on Cameron was hunting it and then 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.320 he goes in there and kills it. Yeah he didn't 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.440 Yeah last year. That's nice, but I kind of set 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:45.639 him up on it, so I was happy that he 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.480 did it. Yeah. You know, talking about Rusty liking to 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:53.360 hunt so much, I identify with that because I remember 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:58.920 before I got into the outdoor industry. I remember seeing 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.680 all these guys in the outdoor industry and the problem 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:07.280 with comparing people to people in an event, where like 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.879 in sports, you know, you can compare like stats, you know, 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.000 like how many points did he score? How many points 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.480 did he score? We got to scored more points is better. 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.800 The problem with hunting is that it's not like that 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:22.880 at all, not not even remotely like that. And nor 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:27.800 is there any reason really why we would compare one 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:32.080 hunter to another hunter, but what we do all I 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.920 remember when I was not in outdoor industry at all, 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.280 and I remember having a thought, I'm not I don't 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.240 need to be the best hunter. I don't. I'll never 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.560 be the best hunter at what I do. But I 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:48.760 remember thinking it is not possible to love hunting more 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.879 than I love it, and that validated me as a 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.880 young man. I'm not saying my the way I would 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.240 express that would be different than you would, but I'm 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:01.280 saying that is a valuable, valuable that's a gift man 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.160 to be passionate about something. Man. When I meet people 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.359 that are not passionate about something, I don't understand that 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:11.000