WEBVTT - Movie Crush: Tig Notaro on Mask

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, and welcome to Movie Crush. It's Chuck Bryant here,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh boy, I gotta tell you this week is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty special episode. Uh this one needs a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of set up, and I urge you to, uh

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to this one because the background of Tig

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<v Speaker 1>Nataro's interview and how this thing started was, uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>well here's here's what went down. So I had met

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<v Speaker 1>Tig before at her comedy festival that she curates every year,

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<v Speaker 1>Benson Ball in Washington, d C. And Josh and I

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<v Speaker 1>do our stuff you should know, live there usually every year,

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<v Speaker 1>and was lucky enough to meet her last year and

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<v Speaker 1>she's just really sweet and a very nice person. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I hit her up to be on this show

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<v Speaker 1>because she was coming through town to perform, and she

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<v Speaker 1>said yes. It was very sweet of her to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>And so day of the show, waiting for her to

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<v Speaker 1>get here, texting with her assistant who was traveling with her,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, they said, all right, she's here, meet us downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Met her downstairs. I was really excited because I adore

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<v Speaker 1>Tick Nataro in her comedy, as I'm sure everyone listening does.

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<v Speaker 1>And I meet her downstairs in our building and she's, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>she's just a little weirdly removed, I guess the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to say it. She's a very warm, friendly person,

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<v Speaker 1>So it was different than I was expecting to get. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't being mean or anything. She wouldn't be in

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<v Speaker 1>a jerk, but I could tell something was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was uh, kind of walked around the building

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and then got on the elevator, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time she was just sort of nodding and

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<v Speaker 1>being being nice enough, but something was off, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could tell something was off. So we get up here

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio and she needs a moment to uh,

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the little podcaster's room. So I walk

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<v Speaker 1>her over there to the bathroom and say, here you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be inside. It's fine. She takes a while. She

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<v Speaker 1>gets on the phone outside and it's sort of having

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<v Speaker 1>a it looks like a fairly intense conversation, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>wraps that up, and then we get into the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>We sit down and we we are just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>small talking initially, and she starts to cry right there

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<v Speaker 1>in front of my face, and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Um, she's just sort of crying and saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and I go all right, listen, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you a minute. And her assistance actually

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio with us so said, I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you all a sec uh and step out, um and

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<v Speaker 1>let you, you know, deal with whatever's going on here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I go out and I start chatting with producer

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<v Speaker 1>Noel and I'm like, ticks in there crying and he,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he saw what was going on through the

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<v Speaker 1>through the window here, and nobody knows what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's kind of over there too, and we're all just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of wondering what we should do. So I give

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit of time. Finally, her assistant comes

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<v Speaker 1>out and says, hey, she's good. She wants to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, are you sure and he says yes,

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<v Speaker 1>come back in the studio. I sit down and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to it. Said, we do not have to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, whatever you've got going on is more important

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<v Speaker 1>than this silly little show. And I will not think

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<v Speaker 1>any less of you. Uh. If you want to postpone

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<v Speaker 1>or cancel or whatever, I said, you take care of

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<v Speaker 1>yourself here. That's what's important. And she said, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no, I'll be all right. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, and uh, I was like, are you sure.

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<v Speaker 1>She said yeah, and she looked at me, and she

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<v Speaker 1>looked at her phone own and she was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>still wiping tears from her eyes, and she said it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like I'm gonna live. And I just stopped, and

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<v Speaker 1>I start to get a little emotional, honestly because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a sensitive guy. And I was like, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And she said that was my doctor and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I had my five year ah results from my cancer

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<v Speaker 1>treatment come back. And it was basically a call I

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<v Speaker 1>was have been waiting on for three days on whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not the cancer was back, and if the cancer

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<v Speaker 1>was back in the way that they thought it could be,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a death sentence for me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just got the call I'm gonna live. And I am

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<v Speaker 1>like literally fighting back tears at this point. Uh. She's

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<v Speaker 1>two ft from me, and it's a very intense situation

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<v Speaker 1>and she's sort of crying laughing at this point. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good call. That's the great news. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>she was just overcome, obviously, And so we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>chat for a moment and about she she called her

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<v Speaker 1>her wife, Stephanie and shared the good news with her

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<v Speaker 1>and they were crying and it was just really a

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<v Speaker 1>super super special moment. But even so, even though it

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<v Speaker 1>was good news, I said, listen, seriously, I know it's great,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you you still don't have to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're literally sitting here about to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>movie mask and I don't blame you if this is

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<v Speaker 1>like not what you want to do right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>she said no, and she said, you know what, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is exactly what I want to do right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the setup for this episode. Uh, my second

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<v Speaker 1>interview ever with someone um for the show, not like

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<v Speaker 1>the most accomplished interviewer yet, so needless to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of on ice skates at this point, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it made for a really good conversation and I

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<v Speaker 1>just really hope you enjoy it. So here we go

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<v Speaker 1>with Tick Nataro and mask Man. Well, and especially after

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<v Speaker 1>everything well and I'm right at my five year um

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<v Speaker 1>mark where I was supposed to be technically in remission

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<v Speaker 1>and people have been congratulating me, and I've been like

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<v Speaker 1>walking around with like, well or I might be terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Um, so I've just been like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just get this news and um uh. And a

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<v Speaker 1>funny addition to this is that Thomas was just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how uncomfortably is with people crying. I've never cried.

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<v Speaker 1>We've worked together now for a long time. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>cried in front of him. And then I'm like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>like the day after, he was like, well, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little awkward when people cry, Like, oh no, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to release this. Um this sad but very excited, new

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<v Speaker 1>excited energy. Yeah. He was specifically talking about ex girl friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay on track good, I'm alive. Stephanie knows. I told him.

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<v Speaker 1>I told him. I told her, and she was texting

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<v Speaker 1>that she was crying, and I think that really triggered me. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have kids now, it's like not that it's

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<v Speaker 1>ever a light, but that I have a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Yeah, I love that's awesome. So everything's going

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<v Speaker 1>great with the kids, Yeah, everything's I mean, I really

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<v Speaker 1>have a pretty splendid life. Yeah, so there'd be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to mourn. Yeah. So uh yeah, anyway, boy is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go down and history me too, Me too,

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<v Speaker 1>um my apologies. Oh no, they're everyone. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have this thing where everyone cares about you so much

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<v Speaker 1>as fans because you've been so open about all your

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<v Speaker 1>experiences the past few years. So I think everyone feels

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<v Speaker 1>like like you get a collective hug from your fan base,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't know if you can feel that, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you can. I definitely can. So Thomas gets the

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<v Speaker 1>residual stuff at the merge booth. Are you doing season

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<v Speaker 1>two of What Mississippi's coming out September eight? I'm so glad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so great. Um, I think it has one of

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<v Speaker 1>those I think the quality that I find a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of TV shows is attracted to me is heart and

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<v Speaker 1>um like Master of None is another one, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think both those shows just have so much heart. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something you can't manufacture, you know. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's great, you can manufacture, it's just do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch it? Yeah? Well exactly, Paul start, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But my family families from Mississippi, so it's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he was. He was reading that to me

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<v Speaker 1>in the car. Oh, how how did you know Wikipedia? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that on there? My family in Mississippi. They started

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<v Speaker 1>an email chain that I was on talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>I have a Wikipedia page, and they were all like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>chiming in, like wow, right, guys, I've actually done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other things and you could probably have your

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<v Speaker 1>own Wikipedia page to write I mean somehow someway. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is not my biggest, biggest accomplishment. I hope not. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for a long time and stuff, you should

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<v Speaker 1>know how to page. But I was like, no, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't I have a personal page? And then that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, be careful what you wish for. But um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my family, my dad's uh ancestry is from like Tupelo

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<v Speaker 1>and Jackson, and I don't know, that's your that's your family.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to you know all the towns of Mississippi, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I went there as a kid growing up and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of cool to see, um, although you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't grow up there, right. I was born in Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we moved to Pastristam, Mississippi on the Gulf Coast,

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<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, we moved outside of Houston to Spring, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I used to spend our summers in New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans and Jackson and Hattsburg and pastors Stan Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're familiar with this weather, don't you out too much? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>Were your early days in Houston? Like, were you a

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<v Speaker 1>big movie goer? Was? How did did they factor in? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I went and saw Greece and Star Wars, which are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my two big movies. Uh, yeah, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember going to see Eddie Murphy his concert films,

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<v Speaker 1>and also you know all Molly Ringwald movies. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just all that kind of I guess rat pack type

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, Molly ringwalden I was. I think I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been a little more of a music person, and I

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<v Speaker 1>followed stand up a lot also until I got into it,

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<v Speaker 1>comedy records and um, but yeah, I think consistently through life,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always more heavily in the music world. Thomas and

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<v Speaker 1>I were driving to Georgia yesterday, and I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>going through anywhere from the Indigo Girls to Frightened Rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>to Ronnie James Dio. You know, yeah, I don't, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't just somehere. But it was a fun. Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a fun little drive. So you drove on this uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you said you were Mississippi and then Oxford, Yeah, Oxford, Birmingham, Atlanta. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas and we're talking before how do we mention who

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas is? Yeah, Thomas is your assistant. It was feet

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<v Speaker 1>from us, giggling in the background, smiling so proud of me. Right, Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about stuff you show did a Birmingham show,

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<v Speaker 1>and just how sometimes when you go to places like

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<v Speaker 1>Birmingham and Oxford, they're just so appreciative. It's just really lovely. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading um about Birmingham and I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>the number one unless I have completely wrong information, but

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<v Speaker 1>the number one most liberal city in the Southern States.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really Yeah, m hmmm, probably of a certain size.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I can't imagine a more liberal than like Athens, Georgia. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. How do you measure how

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<v Speaker 1>liberal are places too? I'm not sure, but I could

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<v Speaker 1>believe that though Birmingham is pretty cool. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty cool rep Yeah, I was. I was stunned.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Atlanta was ranking fourth. Yeah, where the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Atlanta is, Um, it's fairly liberal and like

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<v Speaker 1>the in town neighborhoods are, well, I know it's fairly

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<v Speaker 1>liberal in Atlanta. I guess my shock was I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be closer to the top, right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did too. I wonder what number two and three were.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. Again, I could have gotten all the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong information. I'm here to spread. That's not what it

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<v Speaker 1>shows about it anyway. Um, so we can go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and get into Mask if you want. Um I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I should let everyone know I've verified a little nervously

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<v Speaker 1>right before that it was not the Mask, the Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Carey movie, because I don't know what I would have

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<v Speaker 1>said about that. Well, here is the thing. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of me that wanted to reach out and

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<v Speaker 1>clarify which one. But then I also thought, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious if you researched the wrong movie and I came

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<v Speaker 1>in to do a more dramatic film, and yours is

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<v Speaker 1>You've researched this over the top, ridiculous film. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, just leave it. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. Let it do what it wants to. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would be in a panic if I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen Mask, and that happened. But Mask, for me

0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.520
<v Speaker 1>was it was a big HBO movie. For me. I

0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was born in Oh, yeah, what's your birthday? What's your birthday?

0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Mar shut up really alright? Yeah, well, all right in

0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi ancestry. So when I was third, I guess we

0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.760
<v Speaker 1>were four seen then when he's kind of fun to

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<v Speaker 1>say when Mask came out and it was I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you, but HBO when that um landed in

0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.560
<v Speaker 1>my neighborhood, we were kind of one of the last

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods to get it because I kind of lived out

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods and on a dirt road until it

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<v Speaker 1>was paved when I was like twelve, So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really really big deal. Right, So HBO came late,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I would just watch some of these movies

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again, and Mask was one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what my HBO movie was, What under the Rainbow?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Chevy Chase. Uh what was the premisi was

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<v Speaker 1>a Wizard of Oz like remake. No, I actually don't

0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.760
<v Speaker 1>even remember what the movie was about, but I remember

0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.200
<v Speaker 1>there were just a lot of little people, and um,

0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I watched it several times today anytime it was on HBO,

0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I know what I'm doing with

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<v Speaker 1>my time. Yeah, I don't remember the premise that there

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely a Wizard of Oz angle. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they were trying to do a remake or a

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<v Speaker 1>musical or something. I have no idea. I mean, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>stuck except Chevy Chase and Little People and but really

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the movie I've seen most in my

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<v Speaker 1>life is Under the Rainbow thanks to HBO. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of that? Well, yeah, watch it. It didn't.

0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Um that's not one of the like, that's not one

0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.880
<v Speaker 1>of those even here about anymore of course not. It

0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't live on in like the popular culture. I think

0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.560
<v Speaker 1>it was thriving at the time, but something like Mask

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<v Speaker 1>like still you know, I think people still talk about

0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.320
<v Speaker 1>that kind of movie. I bring up Mask a lot

0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and it is often followed by the Mask. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um so I watched it today again, um, Mask is

0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:01.920
<v Speaker 1>really hard to find, um Like, you can't even pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it on YouTube and as a rental um Like.

0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I had to watch it on it on YouTube. But

0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it was a The screen was in the top little

0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.040
<v Speaker 1>third of the corner and then all around it were

0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.400
<v Speaker 1>like starbursts going off and it was in Yeah that's

0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the original So that sounds about terrible quality. Was really weird,

0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.160
<v Speaker 1>But I've seen it, like I said, because of HBO,

0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.240
<v Speaker 1>saw I don't. I mean, I can't even hazard a guess,

0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.760
<v Speaker 1>but at least like ten times probably. So It's a

0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.000
<v Speaker 1>movie I was really familiar with, but I hadn't seen

0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.760
<v Speaker 1>in many, many years, so it was it was fun to,

0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of go back and watch it. Now,

0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.520
<v Speaker 1>this is an embarrassing moment where I admit I didn't

0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.840
<v Speaker 1>go back and watch it. That's okay, okay, no, no, no,

0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.720
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't like part of my There won't be a quiz,

0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.159
<v Speaker 1>so you don't need to worry about it. You remember

0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the gist of the movie, right, yes, do so? Eric Stoltz,

0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh I remember? Yes? Okay, I thought I thought you

0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.480
<v Speaker 1>were about to say I didn't know that who that was? No? No,

0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.920
<v Speaker 1>sure did. Yeah. I read a funny thing today where

0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.240
<v Speaker 1>apparently at the rat party, uh, there were crew members

0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 1>introducing themselves to him because they didn't see him out

0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.439
<v Speaker 1>of his makeup, so they didn't even know Eric's like

0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.159
<v Speaker 1>what Erik Saltz looked like. And I also read that

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:18.560
<v Speaker 1>share dated him after the movie, which really, yeah, kind

0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.399
<v Speaker 1>of tarnished it a bit in my head, that is

0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that's bizarre. Yeah, I thought it was a little bit weird.

0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, are they the same age?

0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.000
<v Speaker 1>But guess that doesn't matter. Well, no, of course not.

0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.800
<v Speaker 1>But my wife's fifteen years younger than me. I think

0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.159
<v Speaker 1>that's about the age difference of sertol. Did I just

0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.520
<v Speaker 1>ruin it for you about me and Stephanie? No, no, no, no,

0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't tarnish because well you didn't play your mom

0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.080
<v Speaker 1>in a movie, so no, I played her love interest

0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.520
<v Speaker 1>in a movie. That's right. Uh, she's really good in

0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.080
<v Speaker 1>One Mississippi too. It's like that's part of the heart

0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of that show. I think. Is this like a little

0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.719
<v Speaker 1>sweet budding relationship that you guys have. She's so good

0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.639
<v Speaker 1>in season two, she's so good. Really, Oh my gosh,

0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.760
<v Speaker 1>who is the guy that plays your dad? Or yeah?

0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Um John Rothman, Well he's so good and I've seen

0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.880
<v Speaker 1>him like over the years as a character actor, but uh,

0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:17.639
<v Speaker 1>she's that role is just so like internal. But um

0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:21.000
<v Speaker 1>he's doing a lot with it. Yeah. Yeah, it's really

0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.680
<v Speaker 1>uh fun to watch. Yeah, I just can't wait for

0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:30.240
<v Speaker 1>season two, very excited. Um, so you know probably that

0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Springsteen was supposed to be the songs, right or do

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you know that? I know what? Don't Bob seeger Bob

0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Seger was the sound the soundtrack. Yeah, so he he

0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:48.359
<v Speaker 1>was the stand in. Um Peter Bogdanovich, Um, the director

0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was insistent on Springsteen being the guy because in real life,

0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the real Rocky Dennis was a Springsteen fanatic, and so

0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:02.320
<v Speaker 1>UM very famously he Uh. They had a battle because

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I think the record label UM and the I can't

0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 1>remember it was Columbia or Universal who was who? I

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:12.160
<v Speaker 1>think Springsteen was on Columbia and Universal was the movie studio.

0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>But they someone didn't like each other and they wouldn't

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 1>allow it, and um and Bogdanovitch later sued the studio

0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.040
<v Speaker 1>because they made him use Bob Seeger, whom I don't

0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>even think he cared for. Really, I feel like makes

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:36.679
<v Speaker 1>that movie. Oh my gosh, the end credits. I remember, Um,

0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:42.560
<v Speaker 1>what Bob Seger song is that? Um, well, I can't

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.720
<v Speaker 1>tell you because I watched the director's cut today which

0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:49.679
<v Speaker 1>has Springsteen. Really yeah, how was that? It was a

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>little like Bizarro mask because you're right, like it's such

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 1>a through line the Bob Seeger stuff, And then having

0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:00.159
<v Speaker 1>seen the Seeger version fifteen times, A knew that the

0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Springsteen version was out there, so it was a little

0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.960
<v Speaker 1>strange hearing like thunder Road and Born to Run, And

0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.679
<v Speaker 1>I'd feel so curious to see that version because I

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:14.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like Bob Seeger represents way more of that world,

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:19.320
<v Speaker 1>like biker Yeah, that biker world than Bruce Springstein. Does

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.800
<v Speaker 1>you know Bob Segers is on the nose? Yeah? Yeah,

0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and the Catman do song, especially because you know, one

0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of the big subplots of the movie was his europe

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.640
<v Speaker 1>trip that he was going to take with his friend. Yeah,

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean so so great. Yeah, alright, so Seeger, you're

0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 1>in the Seeger camp. I love Bob Seger. You're a fan.

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh well, we actually had a thing on stuff. You

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.639
<v Speaker 1>should know where I complained about Bob Seeger. Um. I

0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>think I was complaining about a specific song, Turn the Page,

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you know the song. Of course. I'm a Seeger fan anytime,

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.720
<v Speaker 1>so I can to tell you. And I think I

0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:58.679
<v Speaker 1>made it. I think it may have just been so

0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I can make the joke that should have been called

0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.480
<v Speaker 1>turned the Station, um, because I always thought that was

0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of a funny joke. And then, um, we heard

0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot from a lot of people to your loyalists.

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.120
<v Speaker 1>That kind of gave me ship for that. And then Metallica.

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.639
<v Speaker 1>Do you hear their remake of Turned the Page? Oh? No,

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. It's great. It's just a heavy,

0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:20.679
<v Speaker 1>slow version. Yeah, it's good. It's I'm not typically a

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 1>fan of remakes of anything. I'm always like, I think

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:27.880
<v Speaker 1>they had it handled, guys, relax, But I feel like

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Metallica did a really great Metallica version of Turn the Page. Wow,

0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to hear that. Yeah. Well it's sort

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of the ultimate Grizzly road song, you know, as a

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 1>touring artist, and I do feel like when I hear

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that song, I'm just like, that's me turning the page. Well, well,

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you're definitely gonna have to check out the Springsteen version.

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I think you can get it on DVD unless you

0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>want to watch the weird um third screen YouTube starburst version.

0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Um no, thank you. Um. But as far as the

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.920
<v Speaker 1>bikers go, UM, I don't know like what kind of

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 1>growing up uh you did in Houston, But I was

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a very um, sort of sheltered Southern Baptist boy before

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I came to my senses later on in life, and um,

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the notion of like a biker gang was very exotic

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:25.159
<v Speaker 1>and scary to me. Um. So to see this movie

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 1>where they like, you know, love puppies and did like

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.560
<v Speaker 1>blood drives. I don't know if you remember that scene

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:32.199
<v Speaker 1>where they were like had a blood drive at one

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>of their bike rallies. I don't remember. It's kind of

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>early on and that's where they had the puppies and

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.119
<v Speaker 1>they all you know, cared for Rocky and love one another,

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and it was just very kind of mind blowing for

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 1>me to see, uh, this other world of like the

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.400
<v Speaker 1>bikers that I shouldn't fear them. Well, I think it's

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:53.640
<v Speaker 1>that typical situation, whether it's bikers or punk rockers or

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:55.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, just that whole like we take care of

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 1>our own and then they you know, all the little

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>spikes on the jackets, whether you're a biker a punk rocker,

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just the you know, stay away from me because

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 1>if you get too close. I'm actually really soft and

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I love puppies and I love babies, and I'm it's

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.679
<v Speaker 1>like they don't trust how sensitive they actually are, so

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>they have to put the spikes on their coat. Yeah

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, and they're just like back off, I

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>cry easily, but they can show that love to each

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:28.120
<v Speaker 1>other though. Yeah, I think when they're within their little

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>community and there, um they have their little puppies and

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>babies and well, it seemed unrealistic to me as a kid.

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:36.959
<v Speaker 1>But now that I'm older and I look at that,

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably You're probably exactly right, yea, and

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Bogdanovitch probably nailed the biker scene like more than anyone else. Yeah,

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I whenever I see bikers, I'm I'm always just like

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm that's scary, right, I'm a biker. Yeah. I have

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:58.199
<v Speaker 1>two motorcycles, and uh well I started writing motorcycles. Well,

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how long do we have? I mean, the

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 1>story triggers another. But I always wanted to ride motorcycles.

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>And I had a friend growing up that invited me

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>when I was in fourth grade to come over and

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>ride motorcycles in her pasture. And I was and she said,

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>do you know how to ride a motorcycle? And I

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>was like yeah, because I'm like, uh yeah, I know.

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And so I went over to her house and we're

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>going to ride motorcycles. And it was just a mini bike.

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what a mini bike is. It's just you

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.719
<v Speaker 1>don't have to like switch gears. It's just gas and

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:42.360
<v Speaker 1>break and motorcycles. Yeah, but they're just like little little things.

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 1>And and so I got on her mini bike and

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I just I was like what And I mean no

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 1>control of the bike. I just went shooting off through

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the pasture over like a bump and then they had

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.680
<v Speaker 1>like a hole in the and then I slammed into

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>the fence and fell over and I had hurt my hand,

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>and I just wanted my mommy, you know. And I

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>had gone from just feeling soak, like yeah, I know

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>how to ride a motorcycle because I truly just thought

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>it was just doing from room in their hands. And

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 1>you've probably ridden bicycles well, And I've been watching the

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Funds and I've been watching Evil Kinnevil, who I was

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with. And I had all those like wind up

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and my mother stopped buying them for us because the

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Evil Knevil doll ended up twice on our heaters that

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>were on the floor and melted. Um. But anyway, when

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I was seventeen, I was going to play pool at

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>this pool hall my friend, and there's this motorcycle shop

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>next to the pool hall. And I had already dropped

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>out of high school and had a job, and um,

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and I had saved all this money, and I was like,

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>should I buy that motorcycle? And my friend I still

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't know how to ride one, and she was like, yeah,

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you have to. So we went back the next day

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 1>and I bought the motorcycle. And when my friend and

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I went into the shop, this was our plan. We

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>were pretending like I had broken my foot so I

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 1>can't ride, so could he teach my friend how to

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>ride a motorcycle? We weren't gonna Yeah, so yeah I

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>had That was my first acting job, so um uh yeah,

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, my foot's broken, can you just

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 1>show her how? So he did and we learned, and um,

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>we didn't even have motorcycle helmets. We had brought along

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a go kart helmet and a plastic football helmet, and

0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:01.400
<v Speaker 1>we rode the motorcycle. Yeah, like a Houston Oilers or something. Yes,

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and um, we just were so amused by it was

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 1>her little brother's plastic football helmet and um and then

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>I ended up selling that And then they sold you

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a bike with but to some to a young seventeen

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>year old lady limping with the plastic football helmet. Yeah,

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>well they didn't see the helmets that was something we

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 1>took out of the car. Yeah, yeah, I wore the

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>We didn't want to be pulled over by the copts,

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>of course, so you know, you grab your football helmet

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and uh, nothing to see here, officer. And so I

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>ended up selling that motorcycle. I had that from when

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I was seventeen until I was probably twenty three. Wow,

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>is that your primary mode? Um? No, I had a

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>car as well. Um, And then I bought years later,

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I bought a couple of vintage motorcycles that I still have.

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But Stephanie no longer will allow such a thing. Like

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people go through that thing, especially if

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you grew up loving evil kin evil and the funds

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to where at one point I thought about it like,

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>oh man, I know they're dangerous, but they're just so cool. Yeah,

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and I got married. My wife was like, no, go

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>ahead and get that thought out of your head. So

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>did you own Did I think I kind of thought

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>about it here and there over the years. Well, yeah,

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Stephanie said, probably before we were together, she would have

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>thought it was fun and cool whatever. But she saw

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody die on our cycle and she said, it just

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>there's no way. If it was before she saw that right,

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>but then after she was like, it's me or the motorcycle.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>So these theories still out. They collect dust in your garage,

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>they do, Okay, they do. I think I'm gonna get

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>rid of one of them. Yeah, one of their it's

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>one of them's gold and one of them is teal colored.

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Their Honda CB three fifties and really cool ones on

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a seventy. The gold one, uh is named Goldie Honda,

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and the teal one is, um, what's her? What's her? Russell?

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Kurt Russell? Okay, I thought it was gonna have something

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>to do with teal No, I know that's the setup,

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and then you fooled you. Goldie Honda and Kurt Russell

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>sit in my Who am I going to? I mean

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you love them both? Oh? I know for sure? Sell? Um,

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Kurt Russell, Yeah yeah, Goldie Honda stays yeah. Goldie Honda

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>was the first, and I had that motorcycle. I did

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>like ten episodes or so of Sarah Silverman's first TV show,

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and um, I had that motorcycle in that show. And

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>so there's kind of an attach, right, what if your

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>sons grew up and they're like, why don't you have

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>two motorcycles for it. My good friend Rick Is he

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>collects motorcycles and he races motorcycles and behind Stephanie's back

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to the babies, he's always like motorcycles. You guys, get

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>him a sidecar. Those kind of cool. Um, that was

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a great story, thank you. Uh so the bikers. Well,

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>first of all, we need to talk about Share in

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that movie. Yes we do, because, um, I don't know

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>anything about shares process in her career, and I may

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>be wrong, but I've always had the feeling that she

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>can kind of be in anything if she wants to be,

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>or at least put herself out there to just act

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>all the time. But she's only done yeah, like five movies. Yeah.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like she's could do whatever she wanted to,

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's perfect purposely just sort of been super selective. Yeah.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean you hear about people be being selective, Yeah,

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>but she really really selective. She's just like, seriously, only

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the greatest movies ever, That's all I'm doing. Yeah, I mean,

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>which is Eastwick, Mask, moon Struck, of course, the Sunny

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and Share Show. That's a great movie. Um, but I

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>know that Mask was I think she had us while

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>she was in silk Wood. Uh, and had a small

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>part in silk Wood before this, but this was her

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>first big starring role. And um, and everything that she's in,

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>she's just so good and like real and authentic and um,

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I like, I've always wanted more Share in my life. Yeah,

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>like movie life. Um, but you know, Share is gonna

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>do what Share wants to do. We can't boss this

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>woman around. No, And apparently Peter Bogdanovitch couldn't either because

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>apparently they um there was some friction because she was

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of new and she wanted her boyfriend played Gar,

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>who was Val Kilmer at the time. So like, after

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you see Sam Elliott, I mean he is Gar. I'm

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>surprised that's not his name. Uh, like you because remember

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>what Valkimer looked like in eighty five. There's no way

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>he could have pulled that part on Gosh that Gar? Yeah,

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean I know. Do you love that movie? Yeah?

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I did you just go? Yeah? You know I like it? No? No, no,

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Um. And seeing it today it kind

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of brought back a lot of did it hold up? Yeah?

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it in a handful of years. It

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>does hold up? It? Um, I think it avoids that

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>like movie of the week thing that it easily could

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>have been because Bogdanovitch was a director and like a

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>really like masterful director and the casting you know. Um, Like,

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>my mom has been in love with Sam Elliott since

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>she was from that generation of uh, mustachioed hunks of

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the seventies. We're kind of right up her alley. She

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>like Tom Seller, she loved Tom Selleck and Burt Reynolds. Uh.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>In fact, Smoking the Bandit filmed um in Atlanta and

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 1>shot some scenes across from my elementary school in our

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>station wagon is in one of the scenes. And how

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>did you wait so long to bring this up? Well,

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:22.399
<v Speaker 1>this gets even better, she um. For probably twelve years

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>after that movie, in our garage we had the sheriff

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Jackie Gleeson's card door in our garage. It was knocked

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>off of the car in a scene in the movie,

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and somehow my dad got it and we had it

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>in my garage and for years until my mom was like,

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>get rid of that thing, get rid of that piece

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of movie history. But anyway, long story short, she drugged

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>me down one day to meet Burt Reynolds. He did

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>like an autograph day and It's one of those things.

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm like, I don't know, nine or two

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>years old, in line for hours and hours to meet

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Burt Reynolds, uh and have him like smack is scumming

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>my face, hit me on the chin and sign a

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>thing for my mom. You know what movie history I have,

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>um that I didn't realize was movie history at the time.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I used to work for Sam Raymie, and yeah, I

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>was an assistant and I mean not his personal assistant,

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was just an assistant for the company. You

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>hear that, Thomas and so um. Yeah, I remind Thomas

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 1>near daily about assisting Sam Raymie and let me tell

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:40.879
<v Speaker 1>you how it's done. But when I was I think

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the company was moving out of a building or I was.

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember how I acquired Sam Raimi's old um

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>file cabinet, but I acquired I started working for Sam

0:35:54.760 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Raimi when he was finishing up A simple Plan Great

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Man and moving on to he was in he was

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>finishing that, and then he was in pre production on

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>his big, first big movie, which was Spider Man No

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>No Um for Love of the Game with Kevin Costner.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>So everybody, Yeah, there's one moment where Kevin Costner's hand

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>is bleeding, um and there's like a shot that everyone's like, oh,

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>there's Sam. But um. So I have this um file cabinet,

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and I remember when I brought it home, I was

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>like peeling all the labels off that said like dark

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Man and Evil Dead one and Evil Dead too, and

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>did you have it just so you could use it? Yeah?

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even like thinking, this is Sam Raimi's file cabinet,

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>like historic little stickers and um, and I couldn't fully

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>get the stickers off, and I just bailed halfway and

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>just wrote like comedy on one and like it just

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 1>all these stupid labels that have to do with me.

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>But then years later, um, you know, after he went

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>from just cult iconic director to just like one of

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the biggest A list directors you can find, I looked

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>at the file cabinet and I was like, thank god,

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I was unable to fully scrape off Evil Dead and

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>dark Man and all these labels, even though my stupid

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>like comedy label is written on there too. That's pretty funny.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a funny merging my stuff and Sam Raimi's file cabinet.

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But I have that like Johnny Ron's base case and

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I had a bunch of stickers. I couldn't get them off.

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>It's fine. I used it as a planter. So did

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>you do you still have that? Oh? Cool and use it?

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I do? And now you tell everyone right over it

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>actually hasn't. It's in my garage. So I was forget

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 1>with Goldie and Curt. It's real. It's a really I

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>need to get share to come over and hang out

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>in the garage. Uh do the same, RAMI do you

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>know him now? Like does he know who you are

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and that you worked for him? Or uh? Yeah? He Um.

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>He made a couple of short films and he paid

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>for both of them. One is called Clown Service. Yeah, yeah,

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I saw that he paid for that. He did well

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a portion of it. Um. And my first short film

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>called Poop Dreams colon a series of stained short I'm

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>certain you haven't. It's not anywhere to be found. You've

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.720
<v Speaker 1>never heard of this, Thomas. Okay, Sam not only paid

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>for it, but he's in it. Yeah and um and

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, he gave a chunk of money to Clown Service. Yeah,

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>because that Clown Service kind of help put you on

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the map, didn't it? Or did it no, okay, no,

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>it only came out a couple of years ago. I

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>wrote it twenty years ago, and then I started a

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Kickstarter fund to raise money for it five years ago,

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and then I had a few bumps in the road

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>in life, installed the production, and then I made it

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>two years ago. I know what I'm thinking of now

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that I read about it recently because of a controversy. Yes, yes,

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that's why there is a controversy around it. Yeah, you

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>get ripped off controversy. I just know that I wrote

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 1>it twenty years ago. I made it two years ago,

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 1>and it's based on true events from my life, so

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:42.879
<v Speaker 1>it might have put me on the map to some

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>people who had never heard of me. I know. The

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 1>first time I saw you was the Conan O'Brien appearance

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>where you where you shoved the stool around. Um. I

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>was just like, who is this? That is the best

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>thing I've seen and m and uh. Paul Thompkins was

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the guest that might Yeah, so I'm a fan and

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of friend of his now and that was why

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I was watching that night. I was to watch Paul

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and then you came on and did that and I

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.399
<v Speaker 1>was like, Wow, this is awesome. This is funny because

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>when I when I pitched that idea to the booking

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>agent producer, they were like, I said, so I just

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>want to you know, push a stool around and he

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, um, I trust you, but I did

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I need to see it. And

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, it just makes no you really

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>need to hear. It makes these squeaky noises. It makes

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>people laugh and then it makes them not laugh, and

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>then they laugh and then they don't. And he was

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>just like, let me, let me just come see this,

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and um, I was like yeah, sure. And so he

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>came and saw me do it live and he was like,

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, So that was part of your act

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>for a while. Uh, for a little bit. Yeah, and

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>um and then when I did it, I when I

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>was doing it on Conan, I couldn't get the stool

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 1>to make the noise is it was supposed to make.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>So I just went on a leap of faith literally

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and leapt up closer to where because there was a

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>plexiglass underneath the plexiglass floor or these lights that come up,

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and so I went over and I was, you know,

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>running running it across the plexiglass and it was just

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:31.720
<v Speaker 1>making the sweet sweet. Well, yeah, I think I'd probably

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>told you, yeah, you probably heard it directly from me. Um,

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I I scratched the floor. No, the scratch

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't still there. They had to have it buffed out.

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>But what is still there is the sound of the

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>stool and the one of the sound guys, I guess

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to annoy ConA will play it every now and then.

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>That's great. Yeah, I think, well it was kind of

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:58.919
<v Speaker 1>great that you went up to that second level because

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>then you had Andy and and p F. T. Conan

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>like just dying in the background, so that really added

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to it. It was really fun. So that was my

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>introduce introduction to you. But but you can watch Clown

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Service on Vimeo. Now, okay, well that should settle any

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>controversial Um. Two years ago, I do feel like I

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 1>have I need to mention that we were talking about

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 1>how great, uh well, how great Gar was, Yeah, and

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Sam Elliott, but that was the only thing in that

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>movie that kind of took me out of it was. Um,

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember, there's the one scene

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 1>at a party, one of the many biker parties, where

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he has a mustache, rides shirt on. I don't. Yeah,

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I don't think I probably knew what that

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>meant when I was fourteen, and then I saw it

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>today and I was like, oh, man, like car, it

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>is way too cool to wear a shirt like that.

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like somebody walking around with a hey Man or whatever.

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Bart Simpson, Yeah, you know, or I don't have a

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>cow Yeah, just like, hey, what are you doing. I

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>remember a friend of my and was on a date

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and she ran off to the bathroom and called me

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, I'm out with this guy and

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>he's wearing Uh, what was that movie the guy that

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that was filmed I think in Salt Lake City with

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:16.879
<v Speaker 1>the kind of nerdy guy. No Thomas said, Wayne's World.

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Napoleon Dynamite. I guess he had some

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Napoleon Dynamite shirt on that thing. Yeah. And my friend

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, am I crazy? But this is such a

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>turn off and I was like, no, it's it's telling

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>of something that's absolutely Yeah, if you choose to wear

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 1>like it was probably a vote for Pedro. Yes, it

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>was for Pedro. On the first day, first day, you're

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>screaming yeah, because you pick out your clothes for a

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 1>first day, and you think about it deliberate and you

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>might try a few things on even I'd like to

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>see the rejected outfit exactly. Let's see what t shirts

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>he did not wear. Can I tell you my favorite

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Gar moment? Yeah, and it's actually my favorite. It's my favorite. Oh,

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh. Right when I started to say it's

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>my favorite moment from the movie, then my brain jumps

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>to other unbelievable performances by Share but Share and Gar together. Um,

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's not her movie name, but anyway, it's When, Um,

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 1>what's her name? Yeah, it's When, Um, And what's her

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>son's name? Again? Bad with names? But I love the

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>movie Rocky Rocky. Rocky has gone off to camp and

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Rusty is so devastated him and then she's trying to

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>write a letter. And that is a scene that when

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I would try to describe it to somebody, I would

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times start crying. Um, it's so raw

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 1>her love for this child. And when Gar comes in,

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:56.360
<v Speaker 1>any starts to try and right what she's saying, and

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.919
<v Speaker 1>then he just stops and looks at her and oh man,

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and are you kidding me? Yeah? I mean, just kill me. Now.

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 1>Another few of those scenes are when Rocky confronts her

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>about her drug use and she rips up one of

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>his baseball cards and he goes into his room and

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>like it brings on one of his headaches brought on

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>by his bone disorder. And then she goes in there

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>because you know, it's one of those parents kids, the

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>parent of the parent kind of situations, and algy he

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>cares about is for her just to not do drugs,

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 1>you know. And then she goes in there and does

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>her her thing where she talks to him, uh, to

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 1>get his headaches to go away, because they go to

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the doctor and they're like, what do you do and

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 1>they're like, she she talks to me and they go away.

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.359
<v Speaker 1>And the doctors are very incredulous about the whole thing,

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 1>of course because it's an eighties movie, but that scene

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:53.840
<v Speaker 1>just devastates me. Are still in gradulous, Yeah, you've got

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a little experience there. Um. And then the scene where

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 1>does are the big tough biker with the stutter after

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.879
<v Speaker 1>graduation tells him that he's proud of him, and that's

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 1>the only thing he says in the whole movie. I

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.879
<v Speaker 1>was crying in my room today. It's like in there

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>with the blind strawn crying. Were those were those all

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the ones that destroyed you? Because I mean there's a

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>major one, just like come on, yeah, no, that's not it. Um,

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>well we may as well. I was thinking you might

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 1>be a tough little cookie. If that's all that destroyed you,

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>well we should go to Laura Dern. And then Rocky

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 1>goes to camp for the blind. And um, first of all,

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that's where like I developed a lifelong crush on Laura Dern.

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody says that, Yeah, yeah, that movie kind

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of did it for me, and I still just adore her.

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>But um, when he well, first when she feels his

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>face and you know, he tells her like he's not handsome.

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Then he has this thing and she feels his face

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and says, you pretty good to me. That gets me, yeah,

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>of course. And then when he uh and just look

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 1>on her face, sweetness and openness. She already knows she

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>loves this guy, you know, and of course his face

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:19.879
<v Speaker 1>is everything's going to feel and it seemed perfect to her.

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just so sweet. Uh. And then when she teaches

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 1>her the colors with the hot rocks and the cool things, Yeah,

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>and like she gets it, she gets, Yeah, it's just

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>disrects me. Yeah, but uh yeah, I mean we should

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about his death. Yeah, it's devastating, devastating. I was

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 1>weeping this morning. I'm a big sap and a big

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>sucker I got. I don't know when I got so emotional,

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 1>But um, I have no qualms about breaking down and crying. Yeah,

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the spirit moves me. I don't think we caught my

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>boohoo session on audio today, obviously, I will. You should

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>watch Mask tonight if you need a good cry. I don't.

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm foo hooed out today. Well, so, as you probably

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>remember in the movie, she um the night before they're

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>having another big biker party and he says that his

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 1>headache is kind of bad, so he goes in. She

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>goes to bed, and then she gets the call in

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the morning that he's not at school, and she fucking

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 1>knows right then, there's no way Rocky wouldn't be in

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>school because he like swept the academic awards. And uh

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>goes in the room and he's there, and she knows

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 1>he's gone, but she's she's pulling the blinds up and

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 1>talking to him like, you know, oh my god, it's

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>just devastating too much, it is, and um, she keeps

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 1>talking to him and then you know, it goes and

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of destroys her kitchen briefly, and it's just so

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 1>painful because he's this this one bit of light she

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>has in her life. You know, very hard to sit

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 1>through that scene. And I remember being thirteen or fourteen

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and just like it wrecked me. Then, yeah, you know,

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a sense of Baptist boy. But yeah, I uh,

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that movie is what started things

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>off for me, but I'm I love movies that just

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 1>destroy me. I do too. I don't know what it is.

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, but that was Catharsis in a way too,

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I think for me it is. Yeah, probably so just

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to like be affected so deeply about something you're seeing.

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that way with music too, Like any piece

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of art now can move me to tears, and like

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 1>a second, it's that I feel like that might be

0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that that first dramatic film, and then it just became

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I actually don't follow too like comedic movies

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 1>or things like that. It's just more like York and

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Dancer in the Dark. Yeah, I'm there. Oh my god,

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about a heavy movie, Please don't cry. Oh jeez. Yeah.

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:21.879
<v Speaker 1>But then my favorite thing to do when I leave

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the movie theater after movies like that, as I'm going

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>down the escalator with other people that clearly just saw

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that movie, I'm just like, I didn't think it was

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that funny, you know, or what part? What did you

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:42.320
<v Speaker 1>think was the funniest part? And people are just like, yeah, Um,

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it's always so weird in l A too, because I

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.320
<v Speaker 1>lived there for like five years, and um, when you

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:49.479
<v Speaker 1>hold up in a dark theater, and especially a heavy

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 1>movie like that, and then you come out and it's

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>always just like you're at the fucking grove or something

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.880
<v Speaker 1>so alarming trolley goes by it is it's alarming, like

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>a trolley full of touria. Um, it's very disconcerting to me.

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember I left a movie at the Beverly Center

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 1>one time. I can't remember which one it was. You know,

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 1>they have like a series of escalators going down there,

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh, this is inconsequential. But I looked out to

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the side and there was something going on a parking

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:20.360
<v Speaker 1>lot across the street, and I went down. It's like,

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>what's going on over there? And so I said, oh,

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the Go Goes are about to play. It's free. It's like,

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 1>are you shipping me? So me and my friend like

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 1>went from this downer movie and we literally walked straight

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 1>off as the Go Goes stage. It was a little

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>shorty promotional thing that they did like their eight greatest

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 1>hits and banged it out like yeah and like forty

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>minutes and it was. It was one of those l

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 1>A things like did this just happen? This is like

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the best day ever. Oh my gosh, the Go Goes

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>are so great. Uh So I'm here, but I have

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 1>plenty to say about that. Boy. Yeah, well, I mean

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 1>you're my age. That was that was our wheelhouse. Yeah,

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean we talked about this march because I don't

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm aries Stephanie follows all that. I think

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it's I'm like pisces cuss or something, But I truly

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know what I'm talking about. And hilariously enough, I

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:19.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know what her sign is, and she is astounded

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:22.920
<v Speaker 1>every time she finds us out because she talks about

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.760
<v Speaker 1>her sign all the time, and I never I can't

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't clock that, I can't quite register. It's not

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>anything like that that I follow so you can put

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a gun in my head and I cannot tell you

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>what Stephanie's sins. Well, we did a stuff you should

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Know episode about astrology about how it was just bullshit.

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>So don't feel bad. I know. I used to with

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the next girlfriend of mine. Uh, when we have an argument,

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:50.319
<v Speaker 1>she likes because you're an aries and everything I did,

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's because you're an aries. And I would

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>always say, so you're telling me that if I was

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 1>born just one day earlier, everything would be your fault,

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, it's just I'm baffled by I

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 1>don't have information on it, and so I don't want

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to completely slam stuff. My wife believes him, but whatever

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:20.919
<v Speaker 1>her sign is really quickly speaking of alternate casting, Um,

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Costner, who you mentioned from Sam Ramy's movie was

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 1>almost Rocky Dennis. Do you want some Costner trivia? I'd

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>love some. Do you know what his production company is called? Boy?

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Can I get a guess? Sure? Um, Kicking Bird Productions.

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:46.440
<v Speaker 1>That's Correct Productions. Really? Why is that? Uh? Something about

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like his grandmother. I'm not sure, but Kevin Costner was

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 1>a star of for Love of the Game. When I

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 1>worked for Sam there was a mix up, two couple

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>of mix ups where cash was livered to me when

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I would sit at my office that was clearly supposed

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.359
<v Speaker 1>to go to the production or someplace else. I don't know.

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I also ended up on a conference call with Kevin

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Costner and somebody else and looped in. I'm just wondering

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 1>about the cash. Is that how Costner operates? He just

0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 1>has catched. I think it was just petty cast or something. Yeah,

0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought you met like a briefcase. I ended up

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 1>with an envelope of petty cash that clearly had to

0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.840
<v Speaker 1>do with the production. And then I ended up on

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a conference call going hello, Hello, who is that? This

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:41.399
<v Speaker 1>is Tig, and it was Kevin Costner and somebody else

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>going what do you mean? Yeah? It was a lot

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of but it was me just really unaware of what

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 1>was happening. And then I was like, I'm an assistant

0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:54.120
<v Speaker 1>over at my name is Tig, and you're probably so

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 1>afraid to miss any meeting like you felt like, well,

0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I never needed in a meeting. Well that's why when

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you at the conference, they must really need me. Yeah,

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like a call for me, okay, chime, I'd

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:11.319
<v Speaker 1>like press conference and then all of a sudden, in

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:13.760
<v Speaker 1>on a meeting, when did you hang up from the meeting?

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>After they were like, okay, well you know, can you

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:20.359
<v Speaker 1>hang up now? We need to have our meeting when

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you were politely asked yea, and now could someone actually

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 1>connect us to TIG Productions and not this buffoon answering

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the phone at the production office? Is your production company,

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Costner Productions? It should be That's a good idea.

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Robolo was the other person who almost played Rocky. I

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have any trivia for you there, No, that seems

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>like it would have just been weird stunt casting. Like

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>let's take like the most handsome guy in Hollywood, and

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't stand stunt casting, saying I pride myself on

0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:56.279
<v Speaker 1>with my show, is that we hire who's perfect for

0:55:56.320 --> 0:56:01.799
<v Speaker 1>the job. Yeah, and we I personally, I am never

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:04.319
<v Speaker 1>like I want to get a celebrity. I always wanted

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to work with this person, and now this is it's

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>easier to buy into. I think, uh for me as

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a viewer, because like when I saw the guy that

0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:13.840
<v Speaker 1>played her stepdad, I was like, wait a minute, like

0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I know that face, like I think he was in Ghostbusters.

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>We'll See. That's the thing is if somebody's just like

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a character actor working actor, I don't care, or if

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 1>they've never acted, but I do not want to like

0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>cram a bunch of famous people. That's weird. And they

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of plays your brother. He's so great, he's so good. Yeah,

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>it's really so great. Second season. I can't wait. How

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 1>many episodes? Six? Again? Okay? Yeah, that's good, A nice

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>tight like there's no filler episode. No, I feel that

0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:45.319
<v Speaker 1>way for sure. It um. I watched it with my

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 1>wife well when I came out, but it was I

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 1>think people try to do too much these days for

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 1>more episodes, like anything over ten, and I'm trying to

0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:58.479
<v Speaker 1>do less. Yeah that's good. Yeah, it's a good goal.

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:02.279
<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, let's finish up then with a couple

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 1>of quick segments. You've been kind enough with your time.

0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to call what Ebert said, because Roger Ebert's

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 1>my favorite movie critic of all times. So I like

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 1>to go back and kind of see where he landed

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:18.360
<v Speaker 1>two thumbs up from Thomas. He gave Mask three and

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a half stars out of four three and a half.

0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what the little half problem was. You know

0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 1>what John Watson said the same thing when he got

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>three and a half stars on his movie. He went, yeah,

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why he deducted a half a star. Yeah,

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, really, what was the problem. I don't know.

0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess you just didn't think it was a perfect movie.

0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm I disagree. Well, here's this quote. Movies don't often

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:42.920
<v Speaker 1>grab us as quickly as Mask does. The story of

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Rocky and Rusty is absorbing from the very first maybe

0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 1>because the movie doesn't waste a lot of time wringing

0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>its hands over Rocky's fate. Mask lands on its feet

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 1>running mm hmm, not bad. And then five questions and

0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 1>these can be short answers. I kind of I don't

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>even know if I have been named for this yet,

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of like movie going one on one with with

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Tig and you'll call that segment movie going one on

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 1>one with Tig. Every other Um, what was the first

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 1>movie remember seeing in the movie theater? I think it

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 1>was Star Wars. That's good. I mean we were sick,

0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>so we were march. Um first R rated movie that

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you remember seeing in theater or in VHS or whatever.

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I couldn't go near that one. I was.

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 1>That was so for boating in my life, I would have. Really,

0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody was saying, sure, go ahead and

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:47.120
<v Speaker 1>watch it. I think, um, you know, there was just

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 1>other activities going on at my house that we're more

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>interesting to my mother than monitoring what I was watching

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 1>up here, watching Parks such a dumb movie, now that

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:01.680
<v Speaker 1>what we look back, you know, didn't you know it

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 1>was a dumb movie when you were watching? No, because

0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it until I was much older, because

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was I thought it was like,

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, the sexiest movie ever made, because there were

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:14.800
<v Speaker 1>body parts in there that aren't usually shown. And I

0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:17.640
<v Speaker 1>literally thought it was like the filthiest movie. Yeah. Like

0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I have no recollection of the movie. I just know, yeah,

0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I just know I watched it, and I

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 1>know it was rated. Are Um, will you walk out

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of a bad movie? Do you remember doing? So? I have.

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I did walk out of a bad movie? Do you

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 1>remember it? I do? Are you willing to go on record?

0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I am not. Because a friend of mine was in

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a and I I was stunned about how bad it was. Okay,

0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and then I saw a bad movie. I think it

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 1>was not true, and I didn't walk out because my

1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:07.080
<v Speaker 1>friend and I were laughing so hard that it ended

1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:11.439
<v Speaker 1>up being so fun laughing in the wrong way. What

1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:13.640
<v Speaker 1>was that one? Can you say that one? It was

1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Calm cong Skull Island? Oh like the recent thing? Yeah, okay,

1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:23.480
<v Speaker 1>did you see it? It looked I knew better. Why

1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 1>did you go see that? Well? I love I love

1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the original King Kong movie here and so the original

1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 1>meaning Jessica Lang. Yeah, and so when this movie was

1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:44.200
<v Speaker 1>coming out, I was I just was hopeful, and my

1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:49.880
<v Speaker 1>hope was completely annihilated. It supposed to be really bad.

1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 1>It was just me and my friend and two other

1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 1>people in the theater, and I don't know what the

1:00:57.440 --> 1:01:03.280
<v Speaker 1>other people thought of us, but we were laughing so hard. Yeah,

1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it's oh so funny. It's one of the funniest. I

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:12.360
<v Speaker 1>can't believe it. Well, that's good that you stuck it out.

1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:14.960
<v Speaker 1>You didn't walk out. I wanted to, but then I

1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:18.720
<v Speaker 1>just also wanted to see how much this would escalate.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's ridiculous, and yeah, how bad it could get.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie felt like they turned in the first draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody gave a note. Everyone was just like, all right,

1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:33.520
<v Speaker 1>all cameras go and do it. Yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We wrote the movie. Um, can you name a guilty

1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:46.720
<v Speaker 1>pleasure movie aside from Under the Rainbow? Point? Um? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there one that you go back to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>that's just kind of ridiculous and dumb? Yeah? I guess

1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:57.160
<v Speaker 1>some people think it's ridiculous and dumb. And actually, now

1:01:57.240 --> 1:02:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that I am and fairly educated adult, I can see

1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 1>some flaws in it in uh, in ways that are

1:02:06.280 --> 1:02:11.360
<v Speaker 1>not socially accepted, Like it's it's not just socially acceptable,

1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:18.480
<v Speaker 1>but there's horrendous behavior and you're cheering for an abusive person. Um.

1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:24.560
<v Speaker 1>But Urban Cowboy that is a nearly perfect film as

1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:29.400
<v Speaker 1>far as I'm concerned. And that's a guilty pleasure because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think I relate to it and connect

1:02:32.000 --> 1:02:34.920
<v Speaker 1>to it because a lot of like living in Texas

1:02:35.920 --> 1:02:39.560
<v Speaker 1>as a kid, and that was Houston too, Yeah, and

1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:43.680
<v Speaker 1>living outside of Houston, a lot of these people look

1:02:43.880 --> 1:02:48.439
<v Speaker 1>very familiar to me, and the urban cowboys that lived

1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in pent house apartments and drove the big trucks and

1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:55.840
<v Speaker 1>cowboy hats and and you know, my parents were friends

1:02:55.880 --> 1:03:01.200
<v Speaker 1>with um specifically this couple that we used to go

1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:05.200
<v Speaker 1>over to their house. I it felt like that it

1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:08.840
<v Speaker 1>felt like John Travolta and that new girl he started

1:03:08.880 --> 1:03:11.720
<v Speaker 1>a date with the hair down to the down the

1:03:11.760 --> 1:03:16.440
<v Speaker 1>back Crystal who I've seen her live at the rodeo

1:03:16.520 --> 1:03:20.840
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, so yeah, I would say Irvin Cowboy for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I could watch that movie. And I loved Eva Winger Man.

1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:29.480
<v Speaker 1>She was so good. But she is who I wanted

1:03:29.520 --> 1:03:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to play my mother on One Mississippi, and she wanted

1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:35.400
<v Speaker 1>to play my mother and One Mississippi and wrote me

1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:40.360
<v Speaker 1>this unbelievable email, just desperately wanting this to work. And

1:03:40.400 --> 1:03:44.120
<v Speaker 1>then she got booked on another show right called The Ranch,

1:03:44.720 --> 1:03:47.880
<v Speaker 1>which I haven't Ashton Kutcher. It's like a sitcom on Netflix,

1:03:48.520 --> 1:03:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and then Amazon didn't you know, there was just a

1:03:51.720 --> 1:03:55.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of like we want somebody that Anyway, it didn't work.

1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:58.400
<v Speaker 1>But the actress that does play my mother on One

1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi is so phenomenal. She's great, and it's like one

1:04:01.200 --> 1:04:02.520
<v Speaker 1>of one of the things like once you see her,

1:04:02.560 --> 1:04:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like I can't imagine even deva Winger. And I know

1:04:04.680 --> 1:04:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I already said I didn't want to litter a show

1:04:06.680 --> 1:04:09.480
<v Speaker 1>with just famous faces, but that wasn't that wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>stunt casting. No, no, Oh, my gosh, Debora Winger nothing

1:04:12.960 --> 1:04:15.680
<v Speaker 1>better officer and a gentleman still share. I mean those

1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:19.800
<v Speaker 1>two Share reminds me of my mother. Deva Winger reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of my mother. Yeah, my mother was a little

1:04:22.440 --> 1:04:25.479
<v Speaker 1>bit of a clammy. Well no, she was just she's

1:04:25.600 --> 1:04:30.000
<v Speaker 1>very beautiful, but she she's wild and a little irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that character in Mass reminded me a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of my relationship at times with her mother, and I

1:04:37.320 --> 1:04:41.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's also why it kind of killed me a bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was before we get to question five, I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you, was like, what was it about

1:04:45.360 --> 1:04:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Masks specifically? Um? For you? Yeah, it was the parent

1:04:51.360 --> 1:04:54.400
<v Speaker 1>child connection and I did feel like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times I was the mature together m HM one and

1:05:02.520 --> 1:05:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that I it was a lot of times parenting and

1:05:05.400 --> 1:05:08.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to get my mother to pull it together in

1:05:08.440 --> 1:05:13.160
<v Speaker 1>different ways, and you know, yeah, never happened, but well

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of came through on the TV show. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had a feeling that might have been part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. What do you mean part of your love

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<v Speaker 1>for Matt the connection to Mass? Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Share shares portrayal very much reminds me of my mother.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also really connected to Deva Winger um as

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<v Speaker 1>my mother because of that, like just passionate, like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>rip your face off. I love my kids. Deva wing

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<v Speaker 1>Or share kind of love for their kids. Yeah, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw big mistake. I saw terms of endearment believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, for the first time last year on

1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:53.320
<v Speaker 1>a plane and I had to like put on my

1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:58.000
<v Speaker 1>sunglasses and like in my seat. And I told my

1:05:58.000 --> 1:05:59.760
<v Speaker 1>wife after She's like, why the fund did you watch

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<v Speaker 1>that the plane? Yeah, so you know what that movie is.

1:06:01.960 --> 1:06:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I thought I could handle it, but yeah,

1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I could not handle it. Have you seen that? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why it took me so long to see

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<v Speaker 1>that movie because I loved every wing Orson and Gentleman

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite movies of all time. And

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<v Speaker 1>just speaking of wrecking me, yeah, the whole movie wrecked me.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And finally, um, what is your do you have

1:06:21.360 --> 1:06:23.520
<v Speaker 1>like a movie ritual? Like do you kind of sit

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<v Speaker 1>in the same place or get the same thing at

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<v Speaker 1>the concession stand? Or oh boy, I have always been

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that gets popcorn. Well, I love barks root beer barks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's it's from Mississippi. Um, I would always

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<v Speaker 1>get barks no ice and always feel like, don't don't

1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you even put ice in there because it comes out

1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:48.520
<v Speaker 1>cold anyway. So just fill up the large one with

1:06:48.640 --> 1:06:52.320
<v Speaker 1>barks no ice. Yeah, you get so much? Yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>uh And I don't typically eat like that, but when

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<v Speaker 1>I would go to the movies and it's like, fill

1:06:56.720 --> 1:07:02.000
<v Speaker 1>me up big old barks and extra large, big gulp

1:07:02.080 --> 1:07:06.720
<v Speaker 1>of popcorn and then throw some milk duds into the popcorn.

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<v Speaker 1>And but now I'm vegan. So Stephanie just reminded me

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. She's like, our milk days are gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Inde sit in sort of the same area, or do

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<v Speaker 1>you care? You know? Um, this girl I dated several

1:07:23.320 --> 1:07:27.160
<v Speaker 1>years ago, she told me the trick at this one

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<v Speaker 1>theater in Los Angeles, which, um, well, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you because I don't want in case you're

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<v Speaker 1>in town, if you're going to see a movie when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to see that all full to bump into me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's I don't want you to steal my good seats.

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<v Speaker 1>It's at the grove and if you sit with you

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<v Speaker 1>sit behind where there's um bars. I think it might

1:07:52.680 --> 1:07:57.360
<v Speaker 1>be a handicap seating is in front, so there's no

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<v Speaker 1>chairs there. So if there's nobody in a wheelchair sitting

1:08:00.960 --> 1:08:03.840
<v Speaker 1>there and you sit behind those bars, you can just

1:08:03.880 --> 1:08:06.840
<v Speaker 1>put your feet on those bars. Yeah. I guess you

1:08:06.840 --> 1:08:08.920
<v Speaker 1>could be a total jerk and put your feet up

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<v Speaker 1>there if there's a wheelchair there, but I would highly

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<v Speaker 1>suggest being a considerate human not doing that. Put your

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<v Speaker 1>feet down, you slob. But anyway, Wow, so that's your

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<v Speaker 1>that's your secret tip grove. But I also always have

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<v Speaker 1>had a fantasy of going to a movie walking to

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<v Speaker 1>the front the very front rope, you know, Ryder left

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<v Speaker 1>corner by myself, just in an empty theater that was there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's John Ronson's move. He sits in the front left seat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see him there. I'll sit on his lap. So

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<v Speaker 1>strange kind of like to see that. I know we

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<v Speaker 1>have to wrap up. I will say, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>my fantasy of I've always wanted to do is go

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<v Speaker 1>into the grove. Yeah, and just start making announcements to

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<v Speaker 1>the theater and not work there obviously, and just see

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<v Speaker 1>how that goes for me. Yeah, see what takes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And because the person you know that does work there

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come in and and need to do

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<v Speaker 1>the announcements and ask me would you just freewheel it

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah, just like make sure you get your ticket validated,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, no talking, turn off your cell phones,

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<v Speaker 1>really tell people the rules, you know, please no talk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just bathrooms are over here, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>have to get up and get it. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>person the job that is comes in and sees me

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<v Speaker 1>doing it one day, one day, I'll do it, all right, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. Appreciate you coming in. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So how about that Jack Nataro and mask uh mirror

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<v Speaker 1>seconds after getting the news that she was gonna live

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<v Speaker 1>very very intense, cool conversation. She is the best. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that she soldiered on through this and uh we

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we really shared a moment. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think she even admitted it on the show that she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to remember this one for a while. So I

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<v Speaker 1>feel lucky to have to have been with her when

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<v Speaker 1>she found that news out. Very grateful that this all

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<v Speaker 1>worked out this way and uh, not a bad way

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<v Speaker 1>to get the second show off the ground. So I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoyed it and we will see you next

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<v Speaker 1>time on movie Crush and until then, Uh, would you

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<v Speaker 1>mind putting your phone away? Movie Crushes, produced, edited, engineered,

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