1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation, and welcome to a special edition 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: of The Drive here in fabulous Phoenix, Arizona at the 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Biltmore for the twenty twenty six NFL League Meetings. West 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: ruler Matt Williamson on location here cross country on a 7 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: special Sunday show. What's going on, Matt, I'm excited for 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: these next couple days. 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you should be. It's a pretty cool event. It's 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: much different than things like the Combine that we've done recently. 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: We haven't been to Arizona for there's two years in between. 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly why this happened, but usually the 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: ways they're explained to me way back when by Dale 14 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: and Company was they do one on the west coast Arizona, 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: then they do one on the East coast Florida, what 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: I always do, and then they go back and forth, back 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: and forth, and for whatever reason, they've been the last two. 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: We're in Miami, so we haven't been here for a while, 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: but I think this was the first one I came to. 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: So I'll be going to this my fourth or fifth 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: in a row. And it's just a different vibe. I 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: mean again, it's not coaches and scouts and a lot 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: of draftnicks or things like that. It's not as much 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: hustle bustle. It's in a very nice location. Gorgeous, yeah, 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: I mean, golf courses everywhere, and obviously a lot of 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: money and things like that. And this is where a 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: lot of sunshine, a lot of sunshine here. Yeah, in 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: the nineties already, you know, right, but this is where 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: a lot of big decisions are made. You know, a 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: lot of it behind the walls that we're not privy 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: to the conversations, but we're hanging with you know, rubbin 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: elbows of these folks. You know. 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: It's cool, Yes, we are, it is. It's a it's 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: my first time here, which I'm excited for. As you mentioned, 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: it's just kind of a different vibe from what we 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: typically do. We will have some guests and everything. Today's 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: kind of set up day though, it's just us in 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: the New York Jets Andy. 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, if you could turn these cameras around, 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: there's just a lot of people setting up everywhere, like 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: right in front of us as a ballroom that there's 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: going to be all sixteen NFC coaches will sit there 43 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: and have a breakfast. Tomorrow, the day after all sixteen 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: at AFC coaches are in there right behind us. Is 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: like a I think they set this up for like 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 3: brunches and things like that behind us, but everybody's just 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 3: kind of getting ready for the big stuff to happen. Yes, 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: I have seen a head coach already and you know. 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: Yes he did. Mike Rabel walked right past us. 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: Oh really, I saw Dan Quinn did. 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rabel was walking past us just a few minutes ago. 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, today. 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: They're staying in the building. We're at right right, right right, correct. 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Today kind of the setup day, the kind of 55 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: first moving and shaking here around the belt more and 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: then tomorrow's when it really gets going. Tomorrow, as you mentioned, 57 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: the NFC head coaches will speak. Mike McCarthy will speak 58 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: to the Pittsburgh media tomorrow and then do his national 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: media stuff on Tuesday. Also are Omarcan and mister Rooney speaking, 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah on Tuesday. 61 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: So we will have all the top people in every 62 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: organization and are pretty much exactly available exactly in some way, 63 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: shape or for him, including the Commissioner of the league. 64 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: And absolutely Roger Goodell will speak here too, and and 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Matt will have a fun dinner here tomorrow night. Yeah, 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: the which which I'm looking forward to. Brought my uh 67 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: my finest duds for the for the big fancy dinner 68 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: tomorrow night. But yeah, so today is kind of a 69 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: set the scene a little bit, if you will, and 70 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: with it. 71 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: I would imagine some owners and gms and coaches are 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: still flying in today and we got in last night. 73 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: Yes, it's probably a mix of both. 74 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: Would I would think I would think we. 75 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: Had an outstanding Mexican meal last night as well too, 76 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: by the. 77 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of a long flight and we 78 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: were all starving. Hit the Mexican and Margarite's pretty. 79 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: Hard on one of the best burritos I've had in 80 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: a long long time in uh in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona. So, Matt, uh, 81 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: we'll just kind of start with maybe a little four 82 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: to one, one little primer here of all the moving 83 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: and shaking, what to expect over the next couple of days, 84 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: the different topics that will be on the agenda. Right, 85 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: so this is all about voting on rules, by laws, 86 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: resolution proposals, you know, all those. 87 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: A lot of discussions behind the scenes too. By the way, folks, 88 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: it probably goes without saying. But it's not like the 89 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: combine you'll hear. I mean, I'm sure there's things like, 90 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: you know, can we sign this guy, or let's talk 91 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 3: trades or blah blah blah. I wonder what they're like here. 92 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: But you will walk around here, and I don't think 93 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 3: I'm revealing too much, but if you spend enough time 94 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: on this property, you'll see two owners in the corner 95 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: just kind of I wonder what they're chatting about, or 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: two gms in the corner, and maybe because they run 97 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: a staff together twenty years ago and their good buddy, they're. 98 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: Talking about their wives and their kids, and there's everyone 99 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: time to that. 100 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: But it also might be like, hmm, think about trade, 101 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: Mads Garrett, you know, hearing about a brown right, right, right? 102 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: I mean, there's all the people that make decisions are here. 103 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: Yes, and so it is a real kind of all 104 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: the power players of the national yeah, and we're just 105 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: kind of fly on the wall, you know, exactly right. 106 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: And so here's some of the different proposals, some of 107 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: the different things that we could expect to be on 108 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: the agenda this week. We discussed some of this last week, 109 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: but I think it's just a good refreshever on this 110 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: Sunday as we get started. 111 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: Bonus Drive by the way. 112 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Bonus three hour edition of The Drive today Monday and Tuesday, 113 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: three days. 114 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: And then we're traveling on Wednesday, and then we travel 115 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: on Wednesday. 116 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: Yep, the kicking team able to declare an on side 117 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: kick at any time during the game. Of course, now 118 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: for those who are unfamiliar, you can only do that 119 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, right, we all know. I think 120 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: most people know by now that you have to declare 121 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: the on side kick, but that's only allowed on the 122 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. I have to think Matt though, that they'll 123 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: change this and you can declare an on sidekick at 124 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: any time during the game. 125 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: I remember when the original rule was passed about it, 126 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: and then there was that caveat about only in the 127 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and I think I was on with Dale 128 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: and we're like, why only in the fourth quarter. You 129 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: know what, if I want to do it to start 130 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: the game, I know it. I might not be smart. 131 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: I mean, the recovery rate isn't very good now because 132 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: you have to tell people it's coming there's no surprise 133 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: on side to start the half in the Super Bowl, 134 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: so to speak, you know what I mean. And that's 135 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: one that's the only thing I don't like about the 136 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: new kickoff rule in general is there's just no way 137 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: around it because you have to have a different formation 138 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: if people haven't thought this through, so you have to 139 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: at least declare that we're gonna line up differently and 140 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: thus kicking on side kick and then everyone knows it's coming. 141 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: But why do you have to wait to the fourth quarter? Like, 142 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: I'll be shocked if that gets any resistance among them. 143 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 3: I mean, it seemed like this kind of they should 144 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: have got right the first time. Honestly, why even put 145 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: that in there? 146 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: Agreed, you know, completely agree. So that's that's number one 147 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: in terms of the playing rules proposals that will be 148 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: on the agenda. Number two is eliminating teams kicking teams 149 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: incentive to intentionally kick the ball out of bounds when 150 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: kicking off from the fifty yard line. So basically, if 151 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: there is it is just. 152 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: A pure loophole. 153 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: This is a pure loophole. He saw Danny Smith last year. 154 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: You know, if there's a if there's a penalty on 155 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: the if there's a penalty on the receiving team, and 156 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: so you get to kick off from the fifty yard line, 157 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: it just behooves you to boot that thing out of 158 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: bounds because you're gonna be surrendering less yardage. 159 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, basically, and no one's gonna take it to 160 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: the house on you or there's no risk. You know 161 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: exactly what you're getting. And I think that was just 162 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: an overlooked loophole because we talked about this the other day, 163 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: you know, like I vividly remember being here or at 164 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: a owner's meeting when all they could talk about is 165 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: the dynamic kickoff, the dynamic cake. It was a huge story. 166 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: It's a huge story, and it was up until all 167 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: through the preseason and training camp. And are they gonna 168 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: have to spend half of their practice working on the 169 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: dynamic kickoff? Of course we're exaggerating. They didn't, but I mean, 170 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: how these teams are going to handle it? Are they 171 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: gonna start with? You know, Danny had to watch all 172 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: this different preseason tape of all the different teams, how 173 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: they handled it, and in some ways it ended up 174 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: being kind of much ado about nothing. In year one, 175 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: it didn't change things drastic. 176 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: The scuttle butt was much greater than the impact. 177 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I got a kick out of it too, 178 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: because I remember being here and they basically, I mean 179 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: again exaggerating, they come out of these doors and they're 180 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: like the dynamic kickoff passed, and then like four seconds 181 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: later on my phone was like, the Steelers sign Quarterdroll Patterson. 182 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: It's like the best kickoff returner ever. I'm like, I 183 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: bet that it's not a coincidence, you know. And it 184 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: was fine. But year one it was kind of much 185 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: ado about nothing. I think you were right. 186 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: Last year we saw more. 187 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: Last year. It really made a ton of impact. And 188 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: the Steelers are the league do they do want more scoring? 189 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: But we've talked about this a ton, Like average starting 190 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: field position went up drastically just last year. And oh, 191 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: by the way, the kickers are getting so much better. 192 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: You're in field goal range after a first down or two. 193 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: Two first downs and it got the right kicker, you're 194 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: absolutely already in field goal range. 195 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot different than it was four or 196 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: five years ago. 197 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: It sure is, it sure is. And then last one, 198 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: so a lot of these proposals. 199 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: But they didn't catch this loophole. I kind of went 200 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: off on a tangent correct. Yeah, why because it's so new, 201 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: I mean, which makes that many kickoffs that would even 202 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: apply to this. 203 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: And you give these special teams coordinators the opportunity to 204 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: figure something like that out, and they're. 205 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: Going it takes one and then the whole league knows. 206 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: Exactly right, then it's on tape. Then everyone knows and goes, oh, yeah, 207 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: let's do that. 208 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: Pick it out, bounce right. And the Steelers did it, 209 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: Boswell did it absolutely. Yeah. 210 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: We were all like, that's a great call. 211 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: It's a great decision. I remember since five yards extra back, 212 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: A couple of people were like, oh, come on, bos 213 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: what are you doing? Yeah? 214 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, third one here and this is the last 215 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: one that affects directly the kickoffs. We all know that 216 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: there are alignment requirements for the receiving team in terms 217 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: of the setup zone. They want to modify some of 218 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: the parameters around those alignments. I think they give teams 219 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: more flexibility. 220 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is something I don't know the exact 221 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 3: parameters of, but I think you're only allowed to align 222 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: in one formation. I believe you are correct, which again, 223 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: I mean they can't tell the offense, you have to 224 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: align in twelve personnel. 225 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: Where else do we do that? Right? 226 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: Right? I mean special teams coaches that need to be 227 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: creative too. 228 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: And you have rules only that this guy, this, many 229 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: guys have to be on the line of scrimmage, all 230 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: those different things, but you still have wiggle rubin freedom 231 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: within those confines. 232 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: So like example, you know, bringing back to the Steelers, 233 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: and they always had basically Warren and gainwell as they 234 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: are two deep guys. But I always thought that was 235 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: goofy And I even commented at the time, I'm like, 236 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: if you do have Cordrow Patterson in his prime, I 237 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: want him back there alone with somebody else, right exactly because, 238 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: not to mention, every kicker is not going to kick 239 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: at the Patterson. They're to kick it to the other guy. 240 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: And I'm sure you could be like, you know, come 241 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: get it anyway, you know, but still I don't want 242 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: to put two guys back there because I paid this 243 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 3: dude a ton to take every kicker exactly right, you 244 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: know what I. 245 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: Mean, exactly right, Let's let's make it a strength. 246 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that do only what the other parameters are 247 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: the up guys and the middle guys, and that I 248 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: just don't know enough about the special teams of it all. 249 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: But why not be as greative as possible. It makes 250 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: a ton of sense. And punt formations you can be 251 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: however you want. You can have a bunch of wide guys. 252 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: You can have tight exactly right, yeah you could. 253 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: You could go for a punp block and right right 254 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: right right back cover And. 255 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: Yet they're not saying you have to align this way. 256 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: So those are the three related to kickoff specifically, all 257 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: proposed by the Competition. 258 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: Probably all past and I think off the top of 259 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: your hand, I would think, off the top of my head, 260 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: I guess. So maybe I'm missing a negative too, But 261 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 3: they maybe they just it's year three of this or 262 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: year four of this, and we found loopholes, let's fix them. 263 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: I think that makes a ton of sense. Next one 264 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: in this will be very This is maybe the most 265 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: intriguing one to me. Also proposed by the Competition Committee, 266 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: allowing league personnel to consult with the on field officials 267 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: when considering disqualifications for flagrant football acts and non football 268 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: acts that are not called on the field, so things 269 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: like punches, spitting, stomping on unsportsmanlike conduct that the referees miss. 270 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: Thank Jalen Ramsey versus Jamar Chase right last year, that's 271 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 2: spitting end. League personnel, you know, from the booth or 272 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: from the league offices, or whatever the case may be, 273 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: would have the ability to buzz down to the officials 274 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 2: and say, hey, that guy just spit on that guy, 275 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: or that guy just stomped on that guy's leg in 276 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: the pile non football flagrant football acts. 277 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: So I've been giving this a little more thought, and 278 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure every owner and everyone in charge of this 279 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 3: great league does not want that look. You know, here's 280 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 3: a replay five hundred times in a row, someone spitting 281 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: in the owen face. 282 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: With Jalen Carter and Dak Prescott. 283 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, right right. It's a terrible look. And I'm sure 284 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: they want all that stuff out good. I mean, on 285 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 3: a surface every when all these rules are going to 286 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: sound good today, you know, but if you start breaking 287 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: them down, I immediately start thinking like, well, how far 288 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: are we going to take this? If it's like the 289 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 3: whistle blows and I'm walking away and I give you 290 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: one of these, I don't know, let's look at it, 291 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 3: you know, like, how how far are we going to 292 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: take Radio Matt just you know, like I mean, like 293 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: he's under there giving him the business. I'm like, some 294 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: of this stuff is just boys being boy. Yeah, yeah, 295 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: let's not take it too far. I mean, gross freight 296 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: flagrant things, you know, punch below the belt or you know, 297 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: but not even like it, not even like a shot 298 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: to the face afterward. I mean, like these things have 299 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: happened since the dawn of time. Let's not relegate everything 300 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: out of it. I only worry that that's a very 301 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: good point you because a lot of interpretation to the official, right, Like, well, 302 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 3: why didn't we look at this? You might think that 303 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: that's flagrant. I might not, Yeah, might just think that's 304 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: part of the game, and it might be worth a 305 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: flag if it had been caught the first time around. 306 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 3: But we have to watch all of them, you know again, 307 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure it's just the big onesday football, 308 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: someone spitting each other face or doing something right. You 309 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: can't have that, I get it. 310 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: No, that's a great point by you, though, because that 311 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: does leave a lot of interpretation down to the official 312 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: and what they wouldn rant right and non football acts. 313 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: And then finally, last one. 314 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: Lastly, I mean I wonder also like a obscene gesture 315 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: or a throat flash or any of those, you. 316 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: Know, maybe grinding yourself, grabbing yourself or something like that, 317 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: is that count a certain finger on the hand, right, 318 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: and we could all make the middle of your fist 319 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: right right. That's that's again. That's that's all the stuff 320 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: they'll be discussing, I'm sure. And what exactly can them be? 321 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,359 Speaker 2: How far can we take it? Is it realistically enforceable? 322 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: Are we putting these referees in a tough spot. 323 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: Because I only even know those things need to be 324 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: under review, under the review for maybe giving the guy 325 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: the finger, you know, like yeah. 326 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yeah, a spit or like a 327 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: crotch punch or stamp on somebody, that's different. But there 328 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: is a fine line between just that guy's being a 329 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: jerk versus something that needs punished. 330 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember like nomakon su back in 331 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: the day would get up after a sack or hitting 332 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: the quarterback and like stomp on his hand, like yeah, 333 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: we don't need that. We don't need that. Frankly, Joe 334 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: Greenvial lot of these things too, and thenteelers aren't right yeah. Yeah. 335 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: Last one proposed by the Competition Committee of the five 336 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: potential rules proposals is for one year only allow the 337 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: NFL Officiating Department to correct clear and obvious misses made 338 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: by on field officials that impact the game. However, with 339 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: the caveat of this is only in the event that 340 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: there was a work stoppage involving the game officials represented 341 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: by the NFL Referees Association. For those who are like, 342 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: what the heck is West talking about, Yeah, the league 343 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: and the NFL Referees Association are currently at a little 344 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: bit of a stalemate, so they do not have a contractually. 345 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: The NFL official officials do not have there. It's the 346 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: same thing as we see when there's a CBA, I 347 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: mean the league and the players. There's also that same 348 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: thing between the league and the Referees Association. 349 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: There could be a striker a workshort era like we. 350 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: Had in twenty twelve. Everybody remembers the replacement refs. There 351 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: is potential for that again this year, and if that 352 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: was the case, we wouldn't have the fail Mary type 353 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: situation again like we had in Seattle in twenty twelve 354 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: between the Seahawks and the packers where one referee signal 355 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: in touchdown, the other signal and incomplete yea, and they 356 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: have to argue about it for ten minutes. This would 357 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: give them. 358 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: Which frankly could have happened with the real reps. But 359 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: it's just a terrible look. It's like all the replacement 360 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: reps right. 361 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: This gives me worry, Matt. This gives me pause. One 362 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: that they are doing this preemptively because they're thinking that 363 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: there's going to be a referee strike, and two that 364 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: they realize that it's probably not going to be the 365 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: highest level of officiating. I don't know, maybe I'm looking 366 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: into it too far, but this one is kind of 367 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: put in making my spidy sense is tingle. 368 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Part of me also thought maybe it's a really 369 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: good negotiating ploy for the refs, Like we're preparing for 370 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: life without you guys, you know, so maybe we're gonna 371 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: offer you ten percent less than you're asking or who knows. 372 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: I mentioned this the other day. I also think refs 373 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: are a little bit like drivers, you know, like you 374 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: get to an age where you might have take your 375 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: driver's test again. Great. Yeah, like I'm not saying having 376 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: quote scabb or replacement refs would be good for the league, 377 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: but you might find three or four that are better 378 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: than the dudes that are getting paid full time for it. 379 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: You know, it might be it might be much worse too, 380 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: you know. You know it's gonna be scrutinized more under 381 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: which is already scrutinized a lot. Yes, exactly right. 382 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: So those are the rules proposals on the agenda here 383 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: over the next couple of days. 384 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: There's also i will say, compared to other years, this 385 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: is a little light, little light you know, like the 386 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: kickoff rule or push push or like people have been 387 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: talking about for months, like I can't wait till this 388 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: then they battle it out and it's forty nine to 389 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: fifty one or whatever. You know. Yes, these seem a 390 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: little bit reserved. 391 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: Yes, there are some bylaw proposals too. We'll discuss those 392 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: when we return, will kind of continue. 393 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: Talking about eighteen game. I mean, there'll be those kind 394 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: of talks going on here. 395 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, we'll continue with kind of the the owners 396 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: meeting for one one, the primer the need to know 397 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: here as we are just getting started from the Biltmore 398 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: in Arizona, Beautiful Phoenix for the twenty twenty six NFL 399 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: Annual League Meetings. Wes Shuoler Matt Williamson. It's the Drive, 400 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. 401 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: What's up, NFL fans. 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Now 419 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: there are by law proposals as well too, that'll be 420 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: on the docket here. One of these is making my 421 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 2: spidy senses tingle again about the eighteen game schedule thing 422 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: that you just said. We'll get to that in a minute. 423 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 2: Also one of these proposed by the Steelers, so a 424 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: little home cook home cooking angle. 425 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: If you don't understand, any of these teams can propose, yes, 426 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: anything they want. 427 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: Cleveland made a proposal that we'll get to here in 428 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: just a second. But the first one on the agenda, 429 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: also proposed by the Competition Committee, permit the League Office 430 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: to adjust the procedures and dates and deadlines for final 431 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: roster reduction to accommodate the international game scheduled in the 432 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: first week of the regular season. So basically this would 433 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: give this would give I think the Rams. 434 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: There's always an international game in the week one now, yes, 435 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: it has traveled easier. 436 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: Before, and it's the Rams and the Niners, okay, and 437 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: that Melbourne Australia. So this would basically, I think, get 438 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: because they're gonna have to leave earlier. This has to 439 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: do with this has to do with when the fifty 440 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: three man roster is due in the deadline, and I 441 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: don't know if it would give them more leeway, or 442 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: if they have to get theirs in earlier because they're traveling. 443 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying. But it all has to 444 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: do with when those teams have to have their final 445 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: rosters versus playing that first and getting on the plane 446 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: with their final roster, you know, and all that stuff. 447 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: Okay, So obviously for them, things go in motion, and 448 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: I guess it's my way of interpreting. I hope I'm 449 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: not too far off. The league and the wheels of 450 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: the league start in motion earlier for those two teams, 451 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: correct and noticeably earlier, because you have to get there, 452 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: you got to get settled in. It's an entire day 453 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: of travel. Didn't you go to Australia. I have been 454 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: to Australia, sat Nuts. I'm sure they're of a direct flight. 455 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: They will have a direct flight from from the West coast, 456 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: but it's still eighteen hours. 457 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: It's a day. 458 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: It's an eighteen hour flight. Yeah, Like when I went Matt, 459 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: we had to fly from Pittsburgh to la which is 460 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: you know, five hours and then eighteen hours too. 461 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 3: I didn't know if you got left or right to Australia. 462 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: Maybe you could do both. I don't know, but we 463 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: did Pittsburgh to LA to Sydney, when I went to 464 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: when I went, when I went down on to and 465 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: it is. 466 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: And you don't want to take people on your plane 467 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: that aren't going to make the team. Correct obviously correct, 468 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: So they have to have their rosters set well before 469 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: they wheels up. But you can't have cut day different 470 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: for every team or for two games. I mean, if 471 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 3: that's what they're implying, all that. 472 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: Part of it too is just their ability to add 473 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: and drop guys at that at that juncture too, if 474 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: they want to make a you know. 475 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: That's the thing is what if someone gets hurt in 476 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: practice exactly right, and like, hey, I need a new 477 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 3: quarterback or you know right, I. 478 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: Can't wait till the waiver deadline to add this guy. 479 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: You know, I need him right now. 480 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: A kicker pulled a hamstring or something like felt on 481 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: the steps or something, and I can't play this game 482 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: without a kicker. Yes, that's what it's related to. Okay, 483 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: I guess I see the stickiest part of that situation. 484 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: This also brings me though, doesn't this lead us one 485 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: more step closer to only having two preseason games and 486 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: then maybe have roster cuts across the league earlier. You know, 487 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: like that, we've been saying that's inevitable for three or 488 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: four years. The eighteen game two preseason thing. 489 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: And Matt, that transitions nicely to the second bylaw proposal. 490 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: This is the one that I said that really had 491 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: my antenna up. It would amend the constitution and the 492 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: bylaws of the league to a step aablished the Saturday 493 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: and Sunday of Labor Day weekend as business days for 494 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: the NFL to provide clubs with notices during the first 495 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: weekend after the roster reduction. Now, that's how it would 496 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 2: relate to immediately, but it eventually would get to if 497 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: you can make the Saturday and Sunday of Labor Day 498 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: weekend business days for the league, you could start your 499 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: league a year or a week earlier. 500 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, on Labor Day, Labor weekend. 501 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: Instead of waiting until the next weekend in September. You 502 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: play Labor Day weekend. Maybe you play Saturday games as well, 503 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday. You make it a whole weekend thing Monday, 504 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: maybe two. And that's where you add your eighteenth game 505 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: instead of pushing back the regular season another week and 506 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: pushing back the playoffs and pushing back the Super Bowl. 507 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: You add it on the front end, you play the 508 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: two preseason. 509 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: Games in the August. You both Okay, hang, oh, well 510 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: that's true, because you'd add another by week exactly exactly. 511 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: So you would really need to start Labor Day week. 512 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely so. But threw me off there? What was Can 513 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: you reread that one something about how. 514 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: It would amend the constitution and bylaws to establish the 515 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday of Labor Day weekend as business days? 516 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: Because right now, what I don't understand is, I mean, 517 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: do you think Omar and coach McCarthy and the linebackers 518 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: coach aren't working those days? Do you think? No? 519 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: No? But I think, guys, sorry, the weekend before the 520 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: season starts, you can't be. 521 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 3: Working right right, they're preparing I mean business days anyway, 522 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: that's just a weird verbage to me. I don't. I mean, 523 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: I'm not a lawyer. I don't write these type of things, 524 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: but I was a creative writing. 525 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: Major seven years to graduate six Sorry. 526 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 3: You had on a lot. Well, it gets point across. 527 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: I mean they're still doing things anyways, But I guess 528 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: they're just saying they could possibly play games those gays. 529 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 2: Well, that's what I don't I don't think they're saying 530 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: that necessarily right now. 531 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: But I think that's the pre for it. 532 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: That's the first step that leads to us. 533 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, So just to rewind a second, I 534 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: do think what is coming, and it's to me it's 535 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: coming like a freight train. Is two preseason games, one home, 536 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: one away. Fine, Labor Day weekend is kickoff weekend, which 537 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: I guess. 538 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: Preseason games would stay the same points, and then you'd 539 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: still have that two week break and then Labor Day 540 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: banks and. 541 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 3: You'd still have games like Thursday before Labor Day with 542 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: like the Super Bowl Champs or maybe this Melbourne type game. 543 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: What Matt, you know, if they start playing Wednesday games 544 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: this year, they're gonna start playing Wednesdays. 545 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: Get used to that. 546 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, tooth past doesn't go back into two. 547 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 3: No, especially I'll get this a minute, but I know 548 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: that there was pushback before, like, oh, we don't want 549 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: to start on Labor Day weekend. Everyone's grilling. No one's 550 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 3: gonna pay attention. I'm like everyone in the world's it's 551 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: going to pay attention. What are you talking about opening 552 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: the weekend? In the biggest, best league in the world. 553 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. They could start anytime and they're going 554 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: to be massive. 555 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: The NFL it took them about a year to steal 556 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: Christmas from the NBA, and now it's there. The NBA 557 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: dominated Christmas for a decade. Now it's now it's the NFL. 558 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: They want to kick Sanna out of Christmas. 559 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: They could exactly exactly right I Labor Day. Labor Day 560 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: weekend's a big weekend for college football. The NFL could 561 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: snatch their chain right away and say that's that's ours, 562 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: thank you. 563 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 3: Our buddy Chris hallick walking past. Maybe we'll grab him 564 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: in next couple of hours. 565 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: I would love I would love him. I would love 566 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: to grab smiling in the Arizona sunshine, looking nice and refreshed. Yeah, 567 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: we'll definitely have to have that guy on as a 568 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: guest here sometime soon. 569 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 3: So I do think opening week one will start a 570 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: week earlier eventually. I completely agree. My favorite part of 571 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: it always there would be two bye weeks because I 572 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: think people know this. One of my least favorite things 573 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: about the schedule currently is like Thursday on the road, 574 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 3: they get half a practice. Basically, I would think somebody 575 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: way smarter than me can make a lot of Thursday 576 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: games with some sort of break on both sides. You know, 577 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: someone's come off of bye and gets ten days on 578 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: both sides as opposed to or whatever. Definitely more international games. 579 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: That sounds like there would probably be sixteen that every 580 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: team would play. There's nine this year's And I just 581 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 3: learned this the other day when you read it that 582 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: there's max max ten, that max of ten. 583 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: That's another thing that's on the BILO. 584 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 3: Which again, all these things are leading to the schedule 585 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: we're talking about. So you space out two by weeks, 586 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: which unfortunately somebody probably will have to have one in 587 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: like week two or three. You know. But so if 588 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: you're getting two, you're getting too I mean, the players 589 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: will not the end of the world. Yeah, and then 590 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 3: the Super Bowls one week later, which is okay, you know. 591 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: I mean, part of me doesn't love making a potential 592 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: NFC championship game in Green Bay even one. 593 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: Or an AFC championship game in Pittsburgh or Buffalo or 594 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: New England later. 595 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. But I also think that's a side note. I 596 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: also think the league is going towards maybe more domes. Well, 597 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 3: the cities too, you know, just a lesson the effect 598 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: of weather. But I think it's I've been calling for 599 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: this forever. I mean, one less preseason game. Who's going 600 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: to complain the international games? The Steelers might play in 601 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 3: Dublin every other week or every other year, and that's 602 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 3: their home game. Their road games in Mexico City or 603 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: Australia or Spain or whatever, and you kind of get 604 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: a home field vibe, especially for some of these teams 605 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 3: that have a strong totally Dublin Steelers is like the 606 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 3: best example. Not everyone has that type of connection. And 607 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: the two bye week thing is to me so much 608 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: better for player health, so much better, and that to me, 609 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: that's the number one thing. Even though you're adding the game. 610 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 3: From that standpoint, this thing might be better for player 611 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: health and quality of play. Thursday night games make me bonders. 612 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: Road games, yeah, road teams, right, at least let them practice. 613 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: Can we at least prepare for this game? 614 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 4: Right? 615 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: It is nuts, It is nuts, especially as you mentioned, 616 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 2: and you're going on the road. We play Sunday, You're 617 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: going on the road Wednesday, Like, it's crazy. 618 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: And they're often division games which are worth more. Yep. 619 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: The Steelers have proposed making a permanent change to something 620 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: that was implemented this past year that allows clubs to 621 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: have one video or phone call with up to five 622 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: perspective un restricted free agents in that two day negotiating 623 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: period and permits teams to make travel arrangements with such 624 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: players upon agreeing to terms. So in the old system, 625 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: I think you could agree to terms, but you then 626 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: had to wait until the actual opening a free agency 627 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: to schedule their travel and all the logistics. Yeah, whereas 628 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 2: now if it's. 629 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: Monday, they could pay a physical right of Now. 630 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: If it's Monday, of that negotiation period, you can say, hey, 631 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: we're gonna fly you in at this time or whatever 632 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: and have you sign your contract and do your physicals 633 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 2: and this and that. You could put real parameters on 634 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: it instead of that whole like, okay, well, we'll talk 635 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: to you again in a day or two and get 636 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: this figured. 637 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: Out, which I guess makes all the sense in the 638 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: world too. Unfortunately, this is the one the Steelers presented 639 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: because I understand it the least, because I just don't 640 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: know exactly what the parameters are now, I mean quote 641 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: legal tampering. I know they don't even call it that anymore? 642 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: Are you allowed to do zooms? And is it unlimited? 643 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what the current rules are. 644 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: I feel like there's channels of communication allowed between the 645 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: t team and the player's agent, but I don't know 646 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: if with the player directly. 647 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: Can you do a zoom with you know, Jamial Dean 648 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: or whoever? 649 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: So this year you can't fly them in this year, 650 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: I think you could because this was kind of the 651 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: trial year for all of that. Okay, And the Steelers 652 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: are proposing to make it permanent. 653 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: Which I guess makes sense if it worked. 654 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: Out well for if everybody likes it from this year, why. 655 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: Not keep it? Yeah? Yeah, And I wonder why the 656 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: numbers five? Who knows, Maybe next year they say let's 657 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: bump at eight or let's go to three. 658 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: Or yeah, that is a good I guess maybe because 659 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: you don't want teams doing casting two wide of a 660 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: net during that. 661 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 662 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 2: Like that negotiating period should be for the three, four, 663 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: five guys that you've really identified that are your top priorities, 664 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: not for you to talk to thirty free agents across 665 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: the league. 666 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: And if I have a bigger staff, I can have 667 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: more people talk to them and all those things, but 668 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: I was also looking at from a GM teams fanning, 669 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: you know, team building standpoint. I'm sure there's many times 670 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: going into free agency the commanders say, we have have 671 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: to sign a corner. This is our favorite one. But 672 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: we're gonna sign one of these eight dudes. Yes, you 673 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: know what I mean, And I make eight because I'm 674 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: gonna make a number bigger than five. Sure, like we 675 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: have to sign one. Our corner position is a disaster. 676 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 3: We cannot wait till the draft. Okay, we'll pick our 677 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 3: top five, but then I can't do a running backer. 678 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, Like, I just don't 679 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 3: know why five is a number. And I'm sure there's 680 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: something smarter than me that does well. 681 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: Speaking of five, Matt, the last thing that we have 682 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: to discuss here in our league meetings for one point 683 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: one to kind of set the stage for everything to 684 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: come in the days to come here, the Cleveland Browns 685 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: have proposed an amendment that would allow teams to trade 686 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: their draft picks up to five seasons away in the future. 687 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: The current rule you can trade picks up to three 688 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: years ahead of time, so like, for example, at the 689 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: draft this year, you could trade a twenty seven pick, 690 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: a twenty eight pick, and a twenty nine pick. Yeah, 691 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: three years ahead. Cleveland's proposing to make it five years 692 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: instead of three years. 693 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: I don't think there's anyway this passes. I don't and 694 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: I like it less and less the more I think 695 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: about it. 696 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 2: You and I have talked a lot about this. 697 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 3: Like it. 698 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: It starts to remind me of the NBA, where teams 699 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: just start kicking the cans so far down the road 700 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: and they start they start tanking or building assets for 701 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: four and five years in the future, and then you 702 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: end up with by the time you get halfway through 703 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: the season, the bottom third of your league is already 704 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: way out of contention. It doesn't care, and their fans 705 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: aren't buying tickets and watching games. And that's something the 706 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: NFL has done so well. Is you want more and 707 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: more teams. You want more and more parody. You want 708 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: teams playing well. 709 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: You had the seventh game or seventh team for playoffs 710 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: and the extra regular season game exactly. 711 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: You want more teams. You want to keep the fan 712 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: bases engaged down the stretch, not allowing all these teams 713 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: to just constantly be working for the future, working for 714 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: the future. 715 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean Uti laid it out perfectly. But 716 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 3: it's like one of the things that the owners want 717 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: last is non competitive games or games where people are 718 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: sitting their dudes or traded everybody or putting a shell 719 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: of what they potentially could put out on the field 720 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 3: from a competitive standpoint. I mean, they don't want that. Ever. 721 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: They don't love when a team is fifteen to one 722 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 3: and rest their starters going into their bye week, even 723 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 3: though they're the best team in the league, let alone 724 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: the worst teams in the league. I mean, I might 725 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: pick on the Dolphins, but the Dolphins had a fire sale. 726 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: I mean if they were just trade yes, everybody else 727 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: by like week twelve, and they're putting out a shell 728 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: of themselves, nobody's gonna have any interest in that whatsoever, 729 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: you know, right, I can't And this would promote. 730 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: That, Yes it would. I just that's the last thing 731 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: the NFL has always been about. 732 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: They've done it. 733 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: They've done a really good job of that, and I 734 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: would be surprised if that doesn't continue. 735 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: Me too, Matt. 736 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: We are live here at the also. 737 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: Don't want them, and like the Rams kind of already 738 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: did this, but to a much lesser degree. I don't 739 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: want the Eagles or anyone, I mean Steelers for that matter. 740 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna trade you the next five first round picks 741 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: for Miles Garrett, AJ Brown and yeah, Joe Burrow and 742 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: again somebody else awesome, and then be awful for four 743 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 3: years after they all retire. Like that's not that, that's 744 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: pushing your chips in too far. 745 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: Well, Schuler, Matt Williams, and we are live at the 746 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: Biltmore in Phoenix, Arizona, all part of our ongoing annual 747 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: League meetings coverage. When we return to close down the 748 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: first hour, I want I've got three things down here 749 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: that I think are big Steelers related questions that we 750 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: could get some clarity on this week. Ooh okay from 751 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: Omar Khan, from Mike McCarthy, from mister Rooney, from everybody involved. 752 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: I'll kick those around with Matt on the other side. 753 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: Eu'ler Williamson. It's all happening here Steelers Nation Radio on 754 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. 755 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here, 756 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: and while you might not know who your team is 757 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 4: drafting this year, you do know your watch parties. Number 758 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: one pick, Bud light, the glean, crisp taste that has 759 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: all the scouts talking. Guess that's why it's been the 760 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 4: group's go to draft beer season after season. Be sure 761 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: to order around for the table before your teams on 762 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: the clock. Bud Light, easy to drink, easy to enjoy, 763 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 4: enjoy responsibly. Ann Huser Busch bud Light Beer, Saint Louis, Missouri. 764 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: Your tuns About drive on your twenty four to seven 765 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 766 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 2: So we spent the majority of that first segment set 767 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: in the scene for all the thirty thousand foot view. 768 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, league related administrative stuff. 769 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: Administrative stuff on the agenda here, of course in Phoenix, Arizona, 770 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 2: for the NFL annual league meetings. Matt from a Steelers perspective, 771 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: if we can zoom in here, because okay, Mike McCarthy 772 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: will be speaking twice to the local media and then 773 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: to everyone at the roundtable. 774 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if every coaching league does that, or 775 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: if that's just a cool thing the Steelers do. Interesting. 776 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 3: I think it's a cool thing that I do, and 777 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 3: some other team. 778 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 2: Probably is and probably explains why it's really only Steelers 779 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: and and maybe Jets people in here today that we've 780 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: seen so far. A couple of national people. 781 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: Like Dale Used explained the stuff to me too, because 782 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not that I'm not a reporter, but 783 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: I mean the Steelers are very open with the media 784 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: compared to a lot of teams like the Patriots, like 785 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 3: don't let you watch practice, they kick you out. Yeah, 786 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 3: things like that. Correct. 787 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: So Mike McCarthy's local media lunch will be tomorrow Monday, 788 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: and then Tuesday Mike McCarthy will speak at the AFC 789 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: Coach's Breakfast. 790 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: Omar Conn in front of us here. 791 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 2: Omar Conn will speak during lunch to the Pittsburgh media 792 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 2: and then Art Rooney to the Pittsburgh local media as well. 793 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: So with that, Matt, I've got three things that I 794 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: think are safe bets that those guys are all going 795 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: to be asked about and we'll give no one answer. 796 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: And I think you know the first one that's on 797 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: my mind, and it is any update in the Aaron 798 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: Rodgers Soka. 799 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm not sure how to even respond to that. 800 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: You and I have brought this up many times. I 801 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 3: can't speak for Aaron Rodgers, but I do think and 802 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 3: I think this was somewhat true last year whenever they 803 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 3: were so to get linked that. How many times have 804 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: I said, and since I've been on the air in 805 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 3: any capacity, that these teams, if you pay enough attention, 806 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: will tell you what they're thinking. It doesn't mean it 807 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 3: always is going to come to fruition, and it doesn't 808 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: mean we can predict the future, but their moves or 809 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 3: the lack thereof, indicate that they probably think he's going 810 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 3: to be a quarterback. I mean, as it did leading 811 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: into OTA's last year, or they would have done something 812 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 3: else that there's no way they're going to go into 813 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 3: the draft with just Rudolph and Howard. I would be 814 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: shocked if that's okay, I can't imagine. 815 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 2: I was saying that back in you know, January too, 816 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: and now it's almost April, right, right, But I think 817 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: you're or maybe at least questions about a timeline. Maybe 818 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: maybe we'll get. 819 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 3: Out Okay, yeah, maybe that's a better way, that's a. 820 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 2: Better way to phrase it. But some clarity on just hey, 821 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: is there a deadline? Do you need to have this 822 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 2: decision known by the time, you know, we get to Thursday, 823 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: April twenty third, in the first round of the draft 824 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: right kicks off on the north shore of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 825 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: But that is of course going to be I think 826 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: the first thing that these guys are asked about. Now. 827 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 3: I'm not implying because I don't think this should be 828 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: a bad way to do business. If they get to 829 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: Thursday on, you know, the day one of the draft 830 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 3: happened to be on the north shore. Like you said, 831 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: I hope they're not saying, well, if Rodgers hasn't signed, 832 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 3: we're taken tieson sure, sure, And if he didn't, we're 833 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 3: not like either like the guy or not, you know, 834 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 3: I mean, like he's either worth the pick and you 835 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 3: love him and he should be your next quarterback or 836 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: he shouldn't, or you know, it shouldn't change their draft plans. 837 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we're we're definitely taking one in the third round, 838 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 3: like you should know that with or without Rogers. It's 839 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 3: sure most he's a one year fix, that's right, And 840 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: I know it's kind of uninspiring. But if by chance 841 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: he does turn you down and you won him, and 842 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 3: I would think they would pivot the Cousins or car 843 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: I would think. So. I don't think he just go 844 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: with Rudolph and towered. 845 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: Because in it it seems nuts to me, And I 846 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: don't think they'd look at the draft and say there's 847 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: anybody that we can get it's going to be ready 848 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: to win games for us in September. 849 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 3: No, because I think they may love mus Meyer either. 850 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 2: Sure, but I don't think they he's going to be 851 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: ready to win games for us and such. Sure, sure 852 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 2: him in our bill, Branda Mendez is the only one 853 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: in this class you can realistically say that about it. 854 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: You're not getting them right. 855 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: And less unless they could trade five first round draft 856 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 2: five right right right to go get them. So that's 857 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: number one, that's no doubt. 858 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, people are gonna bring that up as any reporter should. 859 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: Number two and I know they're going to bring this 860 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 2: up as any reporter should, but I think it's still 861 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: flying a little bit under the radar relatively. Any updates 862 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 2: on Broderck Jones's. 863 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,959 Speaker 3: Health, Oh yeah, I guess we don't bring that up enough. 864 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 3: And it's hard to get health updates as time a year. 865 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not great at question even like what 866 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: we have guests on. I feel like what my weakness is, 867 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 3: I could be better at asking questions. I'm used to 868 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 3: receiving questions, you know, but I wonder if someone phrases 869 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 3: a question along the lines of, do you expect Brodrick 870 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 3: Jones ready for OTA's in mini camp? If the answer 871 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: is no, probably not. Do you expect them for the 872 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: start of training camp? Okay? Yeah, I mean like those 873 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: are reasons dates to think maybe, you know. 874 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: And if the answer to both of those is no, 875 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, it raises some real offensive 876 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 2: lineman in the first round. 877 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: Exactly. We often go that route, and I've talked about it, 878 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: you know, forever. You've talked about it forever. I think 879 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 3: it's a logical move either way. But boy, and then 880 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, your feet to the fire a 881 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: little bit, you know, right. 882 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, So that that to me is listen, the 883 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is the headliner, but Broderick Jones is a 884 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: pretty important warm up act. Well, I guess that wouldn't 885 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: make sense because the warm up act wouldn't come after 886 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: the headliner. 887 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 3: But you get what I'm saying. 888 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 2: The Aaron Rodgers, I think question is the biggest one 889 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: from the Steelers perspective, But that that broder Jones and 890 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: his availability, man, it has a huge there's a direct 891 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 2: correlation on how you're gonna work the draft, how you're 892 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 2: gonna work the start of training camp in the regular 893 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 2: season based on what his availability is and how that 894 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: fits into the equation with Dylan Cook and everybody else 895 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,240 Speaker 2: on the left. 896 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 3: Side of that line. Now, they might think they actually 897 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: found a true diamond in the rough Cook and he 898 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: played like that, I mean, I give him all the 899 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 3: credit in the world. I am not dismissing. It was 900 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 3: not no and its good competition. And I think Miles 901 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 3: Garrett was one of those games, and you know he 902 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 3: held his own. So I often get blowback like you're 903 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 3: you're too tough on Cook. He might be the answer 904 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: if he is great, I mean that. 905 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 2: Is I just don't want to put all my eggs 906 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 2: in that basket. 907 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 3: No, I mean, that's like getting rock Purty in the 908 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 3: seventh rounds. That's the best thing ever. I mean, Or 909 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 3: if Howard's a starter, I mean, those are wonderful things, 910 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: and they do happen in this league. But putting I 911 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 3: mean the bank on that might be nuts. But you 912 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 3: also have a new a line coach. It might be like, man, 913 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 3: don't cooks are really good and he I'm very comfortable 914 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 3: starting him for eighteen games, and maybe that is a plan, 915 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 3: and maybe they extend him in tomorrow or in the 916 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 3: preseason or whatever and be like, we got a dude, 917 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 3: that'd be great. But we also know that that position's 918 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 3: hard to come by. Yes, yeah, it's just a real shortage. 919 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: And shopping in the luxury car a lot for that. 920 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to have to go shopping down 921 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 3: an aisle that I can't afford. 922 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 2: He started Week thirteen against the Buffalo Bills, than the Ravens, 923 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 2: than the Dolphins, and the Lions and the Browns and 924 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: the Ravens again, and then of course that playoff game 925 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: it's the Texans. Yea good some good defensive lineman and 926 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 2: some good edge rushers in those Yeah, those teams that 927 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: I just mentioned there, and the old. 928 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 3: Lion of the Hole was not great against the Texans. 929 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 3: We know that. No, it was not. It certainly was not. 930 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 3: That's just fierce the competitions. 931 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 2: You're maybe the best, maybe the best defensive front of 932 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: the NFL last year, last one, Max I said, I 933 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 2: had three of these for you in terms of questions 934 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 2: for the you know, Mike McCarthy, Oh, Marcahn. 935 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 5: Uh. 936 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: And when we hear them speak over the next couple 937 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 2: of days, uh. Obviously, questions about Aaron Rodgers, Obviously, questions 938 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: about Roger Jones and his health and future availability. But 939 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: I think the last one is just kind of how 940 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 2: they view the roster as we get closer and closer, 941 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 2: now less than a month away from the draft. Is 942 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 2: your is your business done? Do you still have big 943 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 2: areas you need to address? Do you think you're at 944 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: that proverbial spot that we always talk about where we 945 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 2: could go play a. 946 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 3: Game on Sunday? I know today Sunday, so we could 947 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 3: go play again. 948 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: We could go play a game today if we if 949 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 2: we had to. You know, not that our roster's perfect 950 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: or anything, but we don't view any gaping holes. How 951 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: do they kind of evaluate the roster here? Is there 952 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: still business that needs addressed and needs done in the 953 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: next few weeks? Are they confident with what they have 954 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: heading into the draft along with those twelve picks? 955 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? And again great question I would have. Of course, 956 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure Omar, like any GM would say, Oh, we're 957 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 3: always looking to get better, We're always charing the we're 958 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 3: always charring in the bottom the r you know, looking 959 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 3: for diamonds and the rough we're always gonna look when 960 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 3: you know, of course, we're not gonna sit our hands, 961 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 3: but I would think maybe somebody slips, like now we're 962 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 3: kind of focused towards the draft, which to me would 963 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 3: say we're kind of done with free agency signings. We'll 964 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 3: fill in the gaps later, but now it's time to 965 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 3: focus on the draft, which I think is where they 966 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 3: should be right now. 967 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: I think so too, because that's that's kind of in 968 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: my mind. I've been like, Okay, if they were to 969 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: make another move in free agency, where would it. 970 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: Be Rogers aside of course, of course, Yeah, I don't 971 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 3: know where it would be. I thought maybe they could, 972 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 3: like if Calvin Austin was still out there, sure could. 973 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: Maybe you get him at league minimum and he's familiar 974 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 3: with him. Still draft a receiver in the first or 975 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 3: second round if you want, but he at least would 976 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 3: be part of the package. 977 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 2: Because you've added it wide receiver, you've added a defensive line, 978 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: you've added on offensive line, you've added in the secondary, corner. 979 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 5: And safety at a running by, Yeah, there's could you 980 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 5: get a bargain tight end maybe, but i'd much rather 981 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 5: we don't talk about this with tight end classes kind 982 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 5: of loaded. 983 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: Very intrigued especially, and I think other than Kenya and Sadik, 984 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: you'd probably have a good available, a good uh, a 985 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: good chance to get any of those other guys if 986 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: you identified them as a as a target. 987 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I did a little more homework on tight ends. 988 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 3: It's why I brought up is there were six more 989 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 3: tight ends invited to this combine than any other combine 990 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 3: NFL history. I think there was twenty seven. 991 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 2: So that goes on the way back to two thousand 992 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 2: and three when they started tracking that stuff, right, but 993 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 2: even yeah, regardless. 994 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 3: Right, there was there was fewer running backs, There was 995 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 3: a lot more tight ends invited. And what that tells 996 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 3: you is when they're sitting there in the fifth round, 997 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 3: they're gonna have a fourth or third round and a 998 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 3: tight end. So why go buy that guy in free 999 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 3: agency right now? Definitely shop and get the cheap dude. 1000 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 3: It makes a cheap you guy. It makes a ton 1001 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 3: of sense. 1002 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 2: And they you know, we he added Hoffman on the 1003 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 2: offensive line, Yeah, added to the defensive line, added two 1004 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: pieces in the secondary and Dean and Brisker. So yeah, 1005 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: it feels feels like most of that free agency business 1006 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 2: is done, but maybe they say, you know, we're still there's. 1007 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 3: Always some options. 1008 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and then you know what too, I 1009 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 2: guess maybe, And I know we got like sixty seconds here, 1010 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 2: but I would be interested if anyone brings up Cam 1011 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 2: Johnston and just is the punter job his? Is he 1012 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 2: still have to earn it? Or are you looking to 1013 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 2: bring in competition because Corlis weightman, Yeah, the Niners, but 1014 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: he in a Tampa Bay, Tampa. 1015 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 3: Bay, I forget that. Probably Tampa Corlis. 1016 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: With with Danny Smith. But Corlis weightman is now out of 1017 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 2: the picture. So I know that's, you know, kind of 1018 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 2: way down on the list of popular topics. But I 1019 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 2: would imagine that's something that could be discussed to you're 1020 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: looking for a punter competition. 1021 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 3: I haven't thought about that at all. I mean, we 1022 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 3: hadn't really addressed that Weightman's not going to be back. 1023 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 3: I would think you bring in somebody to swing their leg, 1024 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 3: not the challenge, bas but they usually bring a kicker 1025 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 3: in and they show case last year. Yeah yeah, and 1026 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 3: probably a seventh round or undrafted free agent, more likely 1027 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 3: undrafted free agent puner. 1028 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 2: It'd be interesting yeah, maybe. 1029 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 3: Have five specialists at camp. 1030 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 2: That's something we haven't really talked about, but yeah, yeah, 1031 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: that's a good question. Yeah, you're free to use that 1032 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 2: one on one of your seven hundred podcasts that you 1033 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 2: do if you need, you need to kill a few 1034 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: minutes of punter talk. That's the first hour of the books. 1035 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 2: Two more hours to go. We'll nab some guests, we'll 1036 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: have some more draft conversation, We'll have some more Steelers conversation. 1037 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 2: Wes Uler, Matt Williamson, just getting started here inside the 1038 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 2: Biltmore in Arizona for the NFL League meetings on Steelers 1039 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,