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Speaker 1: One of the most rewarding things in my life has

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Speaker 1: I've known Buck for more than a decade. You may

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Speaker 1: an international man of mystery, and his journey to prominence

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Speaker 1: with him. Well, it's Buck Sexton, the host of what

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Speaker 1: has become the legendary Clay and Bucks Show, right the

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I don't know, man, like, you're super

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Speaker 1: do you remember when the first time I met you? Was?

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Speaker 2: Probably not I don't remember. I do recall though, that

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Speaker 2: in the last five seconds, I've realized that on your

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Speaker 2: So this is quite an inauspicious start to the podcast

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Speaker 1: Buck is not going to sext anyone during the show.

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Speaker 1: That's not why we're here.

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Speaker 1: I think my first television appearance happened with Jesse Come on,

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Speaker 2: I still tell them I want to be Sean Parnell

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Speaker 2: my breakdown of it. Yeah, and if you love that

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Speaker 2: ten percent enough, like I did two Oval office deep

432
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Speaker 2: dives with the President of the United States, the National

433
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Speaker 2: Security where it was me and then and I was

434
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Speaker 2: twenty eight years old. I ran the intelligence briefing. There's

435
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Speaker 2: like I have photos of it, you know, because they

436
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: it was the White House, they like took a photo.

437
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: I sat there with the president for thirty minutes, going

438
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Speaker 2: over everything that I knew about a certain AO and

439
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Speaker 2: certain programs in Afghanistan. I'm sorry, what was that like

440
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Speaker 2: in Iraq?

441
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Speaker 1: Not a stand I do President Obama or Bush?

442
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Speaker 2: Oh? Bush? Come on, come well?

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Speaker 1: I mean look, I had to ask. That's it's kind

444
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Speaker 1: of an unbelievable experience. You're in your twenties and you're

445
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Speaker 1: in the oval and you're briefing a president.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like that. So it was like a

447
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Speaker 2: different it was a different kind of cool, Like you know,

448
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Speaker 2: I'm not you know, there was no door kicking, there

449
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: was no there was no what's the uh. Leonardo DiCaprio

450
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Speaker 2: and he's like pretending that he's actually in Iraqi and

451
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Speaker 2: people in a rock believe him. I'm like, that's not

452
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Speaker 2: how it works to break hey, to break into people.

453
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Speaker 2: But the Iraqis in Baghdad could tell whether somebody was

454
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Speaker 2: Sunni or Shia based upon the way they put on

455
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Speaker 2: their like the way their cafe look and their accents

456
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Speaker 2: in the same city. I don't think Leonardo DiCaprio like

457
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Speaker 2: gets a little ten and it's like ah mohamma, and

458
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: they're all like, oh, he's a rocky.

459
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Speaker 1: So anyway, I gotta ask you, like, you're at the

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Speaker 1: White House and you're in your twenties, did that feel

461
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Speaker 1: like a surreal experience to you? Or do you look

462
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Speaker 1: back now and think like, I can't believe I lived

463
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Speaker 1: that life.

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Speaker 2: Uh. It's such a good question because so I had

465
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Speaker 2: a very weird the weird experience or I maybe unusual

466
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Speaker 2: experience of I was in the Oval Office for the

467
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Speaker 2: first time in my twenties as a you know, well

468
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Speaker 2: regarded CIA analyst during a war, talking about the war

469
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Speaker 2: with the President, the commander in chief the United States,

470
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Speaker 2: the Vice President Cheney, answering their questions and the whole thing.

471
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Speaker 2: And then years later as a national radio host and

472
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Speaker 2: a conservative media figure, I was back in the Oval

473
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Speaker 2: interviewing Donald Trump, and it was like, I remember I

474
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Speaker 2: was there. I was like, wait, but I came in

475
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Speaker 2: and it was like super secret squirrel right, It's like, oh,

476
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Speaker 2: we're doing I was the PDB bringing. I was briefer

477
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Speaker 2: for the day. They sent in like a you know,

478
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Speaker 2: an old guard guy to make sure I didn't, you know,

479
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Speaker 2: say anything crazy. But I remember I was like, well,

480
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Speaker 2: I sat on the couch last time, but now I

481
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Speaker 2: guess I'm sitting at the you know, in front of

482
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Speaker 2: the resolute desk with with with Trump. And I mean

483
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Speaker 2: I went into the Oval office with a few times.

484
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Speaker 2: So I had a couple of times at Bush and

485
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Speaker 2: then a couple of times, but it was then a

486
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Speaker 2: very different capacity. And it's just kind of funny because

487
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Speaker 2: if you had told me in two thousand and eight

488
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Speaker 2: that I would be sitting there with think about this man, Okay,

489
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Speaker 2: I'm a CIA analyst. I'm terrified that I'm ever going

490
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: to say like the wrong thing or you know, they

491
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Speaker 2: make you super paranoid in the intelligence community, like don't ever

492
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Speaker 2: tell anybody what you think about anything. I'm like, They're like,

493
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Speaker 2: what's better chocolate or vanilla.

494
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I can neither confirm nor didn't I because

495
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Speaker 3: I haven't gotten permission.

496
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Speaker 2: You know, like you can't say anything right. If you

497
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Speaker 2: had told me that I would be sitting in the

498
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Speaker 2: Oval Office and I would let me see ago twelve years.

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Speaker 2: Fast forward twelve years or eleven years, and I'd be

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Speaker 2: sitting across from the President and it's Donald Trump, who

501
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Speaker 2: whose daughter came with me to the regis Junior prom.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, I gotta stop you there with Avonka.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah wait, what all right? Like put a pin in that,

504
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Speaker 1: We've got to come back.

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Speaker 2: But if you were telling me that, I'd be sitting

506
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Speaker 2: there talking to Donald Trump because I was a syndicated

507
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Speaker 2: radio host and he loved my Twitter and my radio

508
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: show when I was a CI officer, I would have

509
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Speaker 2: been like, this is some wild this is some wild.

510
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Speaker 2: So by the way, Ivanka had, just to be clear,

511
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Speaker 2: came as like a friend. We knew each other. Well,

512
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Speaker 2: I didn't have a girlfriend at the time, so I

513
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Speaker 2: can't I can't claim if there's any like great romantic skills.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even suggesting that. I'm like, how do you know?

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Speaker 2: I don't want you know, I don't want to get

516
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Speaker 2: on the wrong side of Jared. He's a very powerful man.

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Speaker 2: And second of all, yeah, it was like very innocent.

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Speaker 1: How did you meet her? How did okay?

519
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Speaker 2: Just growing up in we grew up in New York City.

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Speaker 2: We're the same, We're the same. I went to the

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Speaker 2: you know, the scholarship Catholic school, and she went to

522
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Speaker 2: a private school like five blocks away, and we all

523
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Speaker 2: kind of went to the same high school parties and

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Speaker 2: stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was amazing, man. I mean, okay, so God,

526
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Speaker 1: there's so much here.

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Speaker 2: I just want to throw that in there to really like,

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, this Sean Parnell rolling here.

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Speaker 1: It's impressive, man. I I mean, so I ran for

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Speaker 1: the for Congress and the Senate and I've never been

531
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Speaker 1: in the Oval office. I've only met one president, and

532
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Speaker 1: that it's like just it's an amazing thing, man. And like,

533
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Speaker 1: how how different you've you've clearly talked to George W.

534
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Speaker 1: Bush Cheney and President Trump. How different were those two

535
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Speaker 1: experienced experiences? Because I got to believe that Trump is

536
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Speaker 1: one of a kind.

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Speaker 2: So the great thing about first of all, Bush is exactly.

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Speaker 2: The weird thing about meeting Bush for the first time

539
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Speaker 2: in the Oval was that I heard him and it

540
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Speaker 2: kind of was kind of like the John Stewart impression him.

541
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Speaker 2: He's like he's like, hey, ready for ready for briefing.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of then you hear him and

543
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Speaker 2: you're like, you know, like you start to hear the

544
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Speaker 2: impersonations of him and then you meet him and you're like,

545
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Speaker 2: oh my, go on, that's kind of what he sounds like,

546
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: Like this is you know, this is the real the

547
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: real individual. Look Trump. So I had met Trump when

548
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: I was a kid, although he didn't he didn't really remember.

549
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: I met him when I was like thirteen fourteen in

550
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Speaker 2: New York City, And uh, how do I put this?

551
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Speaker 2: It's like there was no part of me that when

552
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Speaker 2: I sat down across from Trump, and you know, there

553
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: was an interview. There was also he invited me down

554
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: in May of twenty twenty for like a an off

555
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: the record, a long long chat about a whole bunch

556
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: of things, just the two of us. You know, some

557
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: of his staffers came in and out, but it was

558
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: just the two of us sitting there talking about h COVID,

559
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: the intelligence world, stuff like that. And I mean, look,

560
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Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump was was a great was a

561
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: great president. That said, it's amazing you're sitting there with him,

562
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: because you go, when you're doing an interview, he goes

563
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: on the record, off the record. The stuff that Donald

564
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: Trump says off the record is amazing. He is especified.

565
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: He goes, he goes, were off the record, We're off

566
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Speaker 2: and then I'm like, he's gonna drop and then he

567
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: drops bombs and bombs and he goes, okay, okay, back

568
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: on the record, back on the and I'm like, wait,

569
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Speaker 2: But so that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Do you watch The Office if you were watching, Oh

571
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Speaker 1: my god, like where Dwight true, where Dwight shrut is

572
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: like shun unshun like, I can see Trump just being

573
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: like off the record, on the record, just like Dwight

574
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: shroot in those moments.

575
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Speaker 2: I don't remember that, which reason that I don't remember

576
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: that episode where Dwight.

577
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: Is where Dwight shuns Andy and Andy does something to

578
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: offend Dwight, and so Dwight says he's gonna shun him,

579
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: but he can't shun him for the whole episode. So

580
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: he's constantly saying unshunned, shunned, unshunned, like he's always tearing

581
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 1: down walls. Man. But yeah, that's amazing.

582
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: I just moved this so that it's now it just

583
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: looks like there's random letters behind me, so that it

584
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: no longer I couldn't. I couldn't in good conscience, like

585
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Speaker 2: what if people are watching with their kids and like

586
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Speaker 2: the sign.

587
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Now he says sex. Now it just says sex.

588
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: Which is my name, which my parents had to make

589
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: my life way harder by calling me Buck Sexton. I

590
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: was always like, my first name is it's a good mayor.

591
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: But they everyone has always called me buck since I

592
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: was a little kid. So that's kind of the way

593
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: it goes.

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00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: It's a good name. And so back to Trump, So

595
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: he is I had a meeting with him, and I

596
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: could I could tell you that I could see why

597
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: he was such a good business man, because every meeting

598
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: felt like a negotiation, like he clearly owned the room.

599
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Speaker 1: And I show up there with with Melanie and my wife,

600
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Speaker 1: and I walk into the room. He completely ignores me

601
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Speaker 1: and goes right for Melanie and he's like, oh, oh,

602
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: what do we have here? Like come over here, sit down?

603
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: So can we get her something to eat? Can we

604
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: get her something to drink? Bring her something to drink?

605
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Speaker 1: And like I'm sitting there, I'm like, sir, what the hell,

606
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm standing right here and so but it wasn't

607
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, if the left, here's this the left.

608
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: Shan Sean if it's for Trump if it is between

609
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Speaker 2: decorated war hero lady.

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Speaker 1: Well, of course, of course, I'm just saying that no

611
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Speaker 1: part of it was like offensive or intimidating. But you

612
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: know how the left would spin that like, oh, he's

613
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Speaker 1: a misogynist. No, he was just he was all class.

614
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Speaker 1: And we sat down and we had this meeting. He

615
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: was asking me all sorts of questions about the Senate

616
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Speaker 1: race in Pennsylvania. But he would ask me a question,

617
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Speaker 1: i'd start to answer it, and he bam, he hit

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Speaker 1: me with another question. So I wouldn't even get to

619
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Speaker 1: finish the answer to the question that he was asking

620
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Speaker 1: before he hit me with another one. And when I

621
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: left that meeting, I didn't even know if he liked me,

622
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Speaker 1: you know, And I got to believe like I liked it.

623
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Speaker 1: I look, I've got average man syndrome in a lot

624
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Speaker 1: of ways, but I liked I pride myself of my

625
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: ability to read people pretty quickly. I can generally get

626
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Speaker 1: a sense of where someone is just after talking to

627
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: them for like a for a minute or so. I

628
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Speaker 1: did not have that with President Trump at all. I

629
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: had no idea what to make of the meeting. I

630
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: didn't know if he liked or disliked me, and I

631
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Speaker 1: could see, like if he is meeting with the world

632
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: leader talking about foreign policy, or in a business negotiation

633
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: with his company, like a lot of these executives who

634
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: are who are you know in these meetings with him

635
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: probably leave meetings feeling the same way, like like I

636
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of that meeting. I don't

637
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: know where I stand with this guy. And I gotta

638
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: believe in in some at least sometimes that's got to

639
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: be a strength.

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he just wasn't feeling. Sean Parnell the

641
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: usually usually he's like super charming.

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Speaker 1: And he was great.

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Speaker 2: You know what he says. You know what he says

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Speaker 2: with the every time I've walked in the Oval office.

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Speaker 2: You know what he says. He goes, Buck Sexton, greatest

646
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: hair in television. So I love the guy, Like he.

647
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: Was great to us. He was great to us. He

648
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: after at the end of the at the in the meeting,

649
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: he goes to Melanie, you guys, you guys, could you

650
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: could be on TV? You want to be? I said,

651
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: you want to be in TV? I said, yeah, put

652
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: us in your commercials, like, well do And that's just

653
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: he was great. I'm just saying I didn't like this

654
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: was a meeting where you know, he's having meeting with

655
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: candidates about endorsements and he must meet with ten candidates

656
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: a day that are asking for his endorsement in a primary.

657
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: So there was that, like there was that power dynamic

658
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: at play there.

659
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, he's a guy. He's a guy who loves

660
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: the game, right, I mean, that's you have to operated

661
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: that to operate at that level and to be somebody

662
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 2: who is has been able to do the things that

663
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: that guy has done prely in politics. I mean, look

664
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: on the real estate side, he did inherit a lot

665
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: of money and he was in New York City during

666
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: the probably the best real estate boom in the history

667
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: of the world in New York City. So, you know,

668
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: right place, right time is certainly a part of it.

669
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: You know, starting out with about one hundred million dollar

670
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: portfolio is also really helpful. But beating Hillary Clinton in

671
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, I mean, that's a whole other thing, right

672
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: And I think that he has a he has gut

673
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: political instincts that are are pretty amazing and at the

674
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, right time, right place for him, you know,

675
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: he was he was able to get it done in

676
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. So yeah, but we don't. We'll see what

677
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: happens now. Man, it's a crazy world we live in.

678
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: It is.

679
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk. Let's talk more about other random stuff.

680
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: What else do you want to know, Sean Parnell, I

681
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: talk about politics all day. What else do you want

682
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: to know?

683
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you got to tell me about your honeymoon

684
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: in the South Pacific, right, you just got back. You're

685
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: newly married, tell so so fill us in man, like anymore?

686
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: Which I high? Where did you go in your honeymoon.

687
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: Right here in western Pennsylvania.

688
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: We didn't know, We didn't didn't didn't head out to

689
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: Jalalabad or you know, give her a little little Taliban

690
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: tour of Karga or something.

691
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, look like we have five kids, Like, we don't

692
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: get away that often from five kids. So we're kids

693
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: from like fifteen all the way down to ten. So

694
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: you don't have kids yet though, right?

695
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: No, No, not not yet, not yet. I mean I've

696
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: been married for like a month, so you know, we're

697
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a little time here unless unless we

698
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: find something I don't know about. Yeah, but it's gonna

699
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: take a little while, so I think, Uh, Bora Bora.

700
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: Let me tell you. So, the thing about Bora Bora

701
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: I think is so interesting is that it's one of

702
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: these places that was sort of soft colonized, I guess

703
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: by the French. Like it was there. There wasn't some

704
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: big like war of independence or anything like that. They

705
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: sort of showed up. The French were like, well, maybe

706
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: we will like give you our language and some of

707
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: our food and like we can hang out here. Though,

708
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: And I don't know why. They're all like Quebec, like

709
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: like they're from Quebec all the.

710
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: Time, like gloomy air from Beauty and the Beasts.

711
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, all of a sudden, all the French people

712
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: are like chopping down wood in uh, you know, the

713
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: Eastern Canada. No, but but it's it's one of the

714
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 2: safest places in the world in terms of crime, which

715
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: is pretty cool. So that's always like there's basically no crime,

716
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: which is because you got to think about it, Not

717
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: only do you have a pretty high standard of living

718
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: and a population, there's just not a lot of strife,

719
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: you know. And I talked to a lot of the

720
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: locals when I was there about there's you know, not

721
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 2: just employees of the resort. We're like, everything is great,

722
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: but you know other people. I went around in the

723
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 2: towns and uh and you know, just try to make

724
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: friends with locals wherever I you know, talk to people

725
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: wherever I can, and including in a little bit of French.

726
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: May we be in sure? And uh that was, by

727
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: the way, the then or the wife then she wasn't

728
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: fiance anymore. She loved that. At one point She's like,

729
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: I'm so thirsty. Oh yeah, this was baller. By the way,

730
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lot. We're like in

731
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: this we're in the town, like the main town where

732
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: all the people who actually worked there pretty much at

733
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: the resorts. There's nothing else going on. Uh and and

734
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: my wife is like, I'm thirsty. I'm like me too.

735
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, I'll hook us up

736
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: because we couldn't find really you know, it was the

737
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: kind of a not really much going on in little town.

738
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: And I asked this old lady. I'm just like, look,

739
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: you got to tell us, like who's got the good

740
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: coconuts around here? And this old this old lady like

741
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: takes us out back and she has this like bag

742
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: of coconuts that she pulls a couple of out, she

743
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: hacks them open for us. And this was all all

744
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: the conversing was done in French, which is why Carrie

745
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: was like, this is this is great?

746
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: So so that's gangster man, that's that's a good guy.

747
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: Did she know you could speak French before that?

748
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: I mean I speak like like just enough to get

749
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: the good coconuts. It was a good night. It was

750
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: a good night back in the villa. It's all I

751
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: can tell.

752
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: You as well.

753
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: So no, but everything was very cool and it's a

754
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: beautiful place, and it is a it is like fourteen

755
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: hours in a plane.

756
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: Though from that, I was just going to ask you

757
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: how long did it take you to get there?

758
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: Super long?

759
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Any issues traveling, I mean with our great transportation secretary Pete.

760
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: Never worked out. No, I didn't get I didn't get

761
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: into any problems caused by Buddha judge, which was nice,

762
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: but no, I mean, look, it's a it's an I

763
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: mean the thing about it that's amazing. Everyone who knows

764
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: Barbora knows you're in this lagoon and it's almost like

765
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: the entire island area was built to be a resort

766
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: because it's all a lagoon. It's protected from the ocean

767
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: and its interior facing toward this this island that was

768
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: a mountain you know that when extinct a million years

769
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: ago or whatever. I don't know, I'm not a geologist.

770
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: But you look at the uh you look at this

771
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: crazy mountain picturesque. It's absolutely beautiful. Uh. And you're in

772
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: this like completely clear water and they have these over

773
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 2: the water hunts basically these like little houses that everyone

774
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: stays in at the resorts there, and it's amazing. So

775
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: you wake up out of bed, stay in.

776
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Did you stay in one of those two buck like

777
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: one of the over the water Yeah?

778
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you walk ten feet and you're on your

779
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: private little like doc and you jump in the water

780
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: and there's no one else like you're you know, you're

781
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: separate from all the other houses, like you just have

782
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: your own little area. It's amazing. So I do highly,

783
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: highly recommend. We stayed at the Saint Regis Bora Bora,

784
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: which if you have seen Couples Retreat, oh yeah, of course.

785
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: Couples Retreat is filmed at the Saint Regis Bora Bora.

786
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: That's where the whole thing so that's where we were.

787
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: We were at the couple's retreat retreat.

788
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Well, so, so what's it like being married, you kids?

789
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: I mean, man, I've been married for two weeks. I'm

790
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: still learning, well, you all.

791
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody in the country knows how

792
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: my first marriage went, so that one didn't go too great.

793
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: The second one, like Melanie, is the best thing that

794
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: ever happened to me. I mean, there's no way that

795
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: I would have made it through this hell if it

796
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: wasn't for her.

797
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: I will say, I'm really glad that I waited, because

798
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: I waited to be a little bit older to get married,

799
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: because I know, because people, you know, especially I don't know,

800
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: people in the last five or six years start to

801
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: be like, why aren't you married? You know, I get

802
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: that a lot. I asked carry I was forty, and

803
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: I just think that first of all, I think the dynamics.

804
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: This is a whole other conversation, but I think the

805
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: dynamics with so many women in the workplace and men

806
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: as providers, this has all been kind of thrown off, right.

807
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: So I'll give you an example. What I mean. I'm

808
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: a twenty. I'm a twenty, you know, seven year old

809
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: government employee at the CIA, who's like going overseas. Like

810
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: the women that I'm most interested in who would have

811
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: been my peers right twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,

812
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: what they're dating Guys who are thirty five, who are

813
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: like making partner at the law firm and driving around

814
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: in a Porsche Like that's now. I know we're not

815
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: supposed to talk about the dating marketplace and these very

816
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: like honest terms, but that is actually what goes on. Yeah,

817
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: And so I think between the combination of some of

818
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: the some of the mismatches that are like, like, what's

819
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: the advantage if I'm a guy and I'm just working

820
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: a job and I'm the same age as a girl

821
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: who's twenty eighth he is working at Like, if she's

822
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: an attractive female in her twenties, she has the ability

823
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: to date and to pick a mate based upon success, resources, influence, power,

824
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: whatever is most appealing to her. I mean, certainly up

825
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: into a guy's forties, into the fifties, I think people

826
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: start to think it gets a little bit weird, but

827
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: certainly what happens that happens though, I mean, look at

828
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: you know, Alec Baldon's like thirty years old than his wife.

829
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: I mean, this stuff happens.

830
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: I saw the dude that was singing that sings a

831
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: song American Pie is dating some twenty six year old models.

832
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah it happens. He's in his seventies.

833
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So you know, it's funny. I'm like forty one,

834
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: and I'm like a reasonably young forty one. I was

835
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: to say, and I'm.

836
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Look at me, I got all this gray in my beard.

837
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: We're the same age.

838
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: This is distinguished by the way, Like I'm jealous of this.

839
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: I look, I still look like a guy who's trying

840
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: to look old enough to buy beer. Like you've got

841
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 2: that gray, that distinguished look. No, I mean, I still

842
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: I like naps man, Like I don't know who these

843
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: people are. Like that's the thing when when you're a

844
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: forty year old guy and you're single and people are like,

845
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: why don't you date twenty four year old girls or whatever,

846
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: like because I know some guys who do do that,

847
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, well, you have understand if you're

848
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: going to date somebody who is twenty four and you're forty,

849
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: first of all, all of your female friends that you've

850
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: known your whole life are going to be like really yeah,

851
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: really true? You know, so you're gonna deal with that,

852
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: which some guys don't care, but.

853
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean, who wants I mean, I'm sorry, I don't

854
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: want that.

855
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: Well, But the other part of it is twenty four

856
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: year old girls who are attractive and have options in

857
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: the dating marketplace, like they want to go out till

858
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning, Like they want to go.

859
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. They're in a

860
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: completely different phase. Yeah, it's a completely different thing.

861
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: So this is why you know, if you are, if

862
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: you are, if you are dating to mate and to

863
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 2: find your person, you know, you have to be both

864
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: established enough in who you are, both personally and professionally right,

865
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: like understanding and and also like know what you're really

866
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: looking for it because I dude, I think it's with

867
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: all the app and by the way, Instagram is the

868
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: biggest dating app that exists now, people never talk about it.

869
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: I totally I totally agree. I totally agree. And this

870
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: just read an article today, buck, I just read an

871
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: article today about Instagram saying like like if you're if you're,

872
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. It was from a woman wrote and

873
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: I can't remember her name, but said like if if

874
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: if your wife or girlfriend is is on Instagram and

875
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: and it's posting their regularly. She's not on it for

876
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: any other reason but for men. I don't know if

877
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 1: I agree with that or not. I haven't really thought

878
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: about it a whole lot, but that that was her,

879
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: That was her thesis.

880
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I will tell you that I know women

881
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: who are you know, looking our business, Like we come

882
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: across influencers and you know, media personalities who are women

883
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: who some of them are like former beauty queens and

884
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: you know Miss America's and that kind of stuff. They

885
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: just get guys, guys will We'll send them a message,

886
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: a blue check will send them a message and be like, hey,

887
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm the quarterback for you know, the San Diego Chargers. Yes,

888
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, Like they'll say like, hey,

889
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm like this. You know, I'm the second string quarterback

890
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: for some football team. You know, I think you're cute.

891
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: Let's go out Like that's how girls get asked out. Now,

892
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: That's happening all the time, all over the place. And

893
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: so as a guy, you're also competing with that too.

894
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's crazy dude, Like I'm I live

895
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: in Miami now and I can just go to my

896
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: gym and like I'm trying to just you know, trying

897
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: to like get a little little less dad bod going

898
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: on here because I'm not even a dad yet, Like

899
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: at least you have five kids, like I'm not.

900
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: You know, what are you saying? I have dad?

901
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: But no news I do?

902
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: I do?

903
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: But but you could you know, you kids? Yeah, but no,

904
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: you've got that like early former war fighter thing, you

905
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you could you can still

906
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: rock some rock some stuff in the bar if you

907
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: had to, Like, you know, I don't lookin like a

908
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: CIA analyst who apparently has a French accent in the

909
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: movie Thirteen Hours. It's like, oh, don't beat me up.

910
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: Like they make a movie about us. They should base

911
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: the fourth season of Jack Ryan about there should be

912
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: to be characters.

913
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: I totally, I totally agree. And look at this, I

914
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: don't think anybody would have thought we'd get into like

915
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: a dating conversation here. But I just feel like, I

916
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I don't have that many friends who never

917
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: got married, who who pretty much were like, you know,

918
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: we're dating for almost twenty years before they got married.

919
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: So I have like many years of it's not even

920
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: just what I experienced with like seeing what all my

921
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: friends experienced and everything else, because when you're single, your

922
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: friends are single too. As a guy, Like, that's what

923
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: I like. The moment you get married, then you transition too,

924
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: Like you're hanging out with married people all the time, right, true,

925
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: when you're a single guy, you're hanging out with the

926
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: single people and you're seeing that whole and you're here

927
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: and there. I mean, dude, I I wish I could do.

928
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: I had a friend. I had a friend who asked

929
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: out some I'm like, you know on Instagram by the way.

930
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: He was like a Wall Street guy. He asked out

931
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: some like bikini model that he liked that had you know,

932
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: half a million followers, And she went for it, and

933
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: they went away for the weekend and he texted me.

934
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, how did it go? He's like, not well.

935
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 2: She she she wanted to know if some friend could

936
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: come and meet us, and I said no. She punched

937
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 2: me in the face.

938
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: She's like, look, man, like you if you have somebody

939
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: out cold, you know nothing about them, Like crazy's gonna happen,

940
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: you know, just because she looks good in photos. So yeah,

941
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: she punched him, punched him in the face. Yeah, He's like,

942
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: she got really angry and she wound up. She's a girl,

943
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: so I didn't do a lot of damage. He's like,

944
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: she with a closed fist punched him. And then I

945
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: remember being like, I was like, well, is your take

946
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: on this that she's so hot that this is okay?

947
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: Because I think a pretty.

948
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: Bright red line. He's like, no, she's already gone. Man.

949
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: So there's some crazy like Sean, you know, we gotta

950
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: we gotta do a part two of this, because I know.

951
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: We do listen. I want to be respectful of your time,

952
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: like we're already over time. Just tell me real quickly,

953
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: like what's next for you? Obviously host of one of

954
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: the biggest radio shows in the country.

955
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: Your audience of the kind of people that I want

956
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: to listen to me too. So what I would say

957
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: is that for the people who are already listening to

958
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: Sean Parnell podcast, their number one priority should be the

959
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: Sean Parnell podcast, but their number two priority when they're

960
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: out of Sean Parnell episode should be check out the

961
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: You can either subscribe to Clay in Buck show and

962
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 2: we put our show there. But also I do these

963
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: deep dives like this. You're coming on mine soon by

964
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: the way too.

965
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: Of course we're going to do the whole.

966
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: I get to be freud and you get to lie

967
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: on the couch, and I'm excited about it. We do

968
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: a whole. Uh you know, we do like deep dives.

969
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: Sean will be one of them soon. So for the

970
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Shawn fans, you'll hear me. I'll be prodding Sean.

971
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds kind of that sounds that's not good.

972
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: That's freudy, and that's not good.

973
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: That's not what we're looking for here anyway. But yeah,

974
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: subscribe to Buck Sexton Show podcast for your subscribers because

975
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: they are the kind of people that I wan't listening

976
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 2: to my show too, because they're great Americans and patriots.

977
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: So that's what I got, you know. I mean, other

978
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: than that, I'd do a radio show. It's on like

979
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty.

980
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: Stations, a radio show, a radio show like one like

981
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: practically the radio show.

982
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: It's a pretty big radio show, pretty big radio show.

983
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: My main man, Clay and I we have a great time.

984
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: He is awesome. Have you got to hang out of

985
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: the day. Clay is awesome. Due.

986
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: I saw him at your engagement party, which was seriously, dude,

987
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: was like a group of like a hundred pipe hitters.

988
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: I could have spent I could have spent. It was

989
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: basically a room filled with people who I've only engaged

990
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: with virtually, you know, so like I got to meet

991
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: all of those people in person at your engagement party.

992
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: He was there, didn't get a chance to talk to him.

993
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: A US party was lit by the way. We had

994
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: like two hundred people there. Nobody wanted to leave. There

995
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: was like an after party at a bar. Everyone closed

996
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: out the bar like we were. We were getting after

997
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: it and people keep asking me like, oh, do you

998
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: remember talking to so and so. I'm like no, I

999
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: was just man. It was it was bumping. We had

1000
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: a good time.

1001
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: It was awesome. It was awesome. We got to do

1002
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: a part two of this buck but thank you for

1003
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: coming on. And hey, I.

1004
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: Want you to poke Jesse Kelly tell him that I'm

1005
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: talking smack and we're calling him out because of the

1006
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: three musketeers here, we got two musketeers that are like, yo,

1007
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: we'll do along, we'll sit down, we'll chat, we'll hang

1008
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: out and you know, mister six foot eleven Jesse Kelly

1009
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: is all, oh, I'm like, you know, we gotta get

1010
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: that little son of a gun to join us, so

1011
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: we'll you know, tell your followers to to prod not

1012
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: the product. I gotta not use that word.

1013
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: Stop using that word.

1014
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry to bother him, bother him, Yes to bothering. Yeah,

1015
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: I'll definitely come back for a party. We talk about

1016
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: more random stuff. I love talking to you because we're friends.

1017
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: We know each other really well, so we can talk

1018
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 2: about things that aren't just I feel like every time

1019
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: someone asked me questions are like, oh, we're gonna win

1020
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: a war with China, I'm like, I don't know. Nobody knows.

1021
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: Anyone who tells you. I saw this guy who went

1022
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: on Rogan, who's just like, oh, well, this is what's

1023
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: gonna happen, and that's what's gonna happen.

1024
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: I saw the same episode. I saw the same thing

1025
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: full of crap. I thought the same thing, long about

1026
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: it everything, And in every talk.

1027
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm like no, no, no, And I sit

1028
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: here and I don't even know the guy.

1029
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: It's not personal.

1030
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: But I'm like, that's not you know, He's like, oh,

1031
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: Poland is next or whatever. I'm like that he's crazy.

1032
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: It is. It really was crazy. And he spoke so

1033
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: assuredly like like this no, like you said, this is

1034
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and this is gonna happen and this, And

1035
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there in the car thinking like this is

1036
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: complete bullshit, Like.

1037
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that was it was. I mean, like

1038
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: he weaves in enough enough facts that were the facts were.

1039
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the guy doesn't have the

1040
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: facts correctly. His analysis, though, is Bonkersville wrong on a

1041
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: whole range. Lie, I'm like, not even close. First of all,

1042
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: he thinks climate change is the big problem, which, by

1043
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: the way, that's the equivalent. That's the equivalent of somebody

1044
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: wearing an N ninety five mask alone in their car.

1045
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: Disqualify your opinion on anything I don't want to hear.

1046
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: And I also happened to think it's one of the

1047
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: greatest threats that we face as a country of our time.

1048
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: It's not enough people were talking about it. I mean,

1049
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: the left talks about it all the time, but I

1050
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: don't think the right fully fully grasps what the whole

1051
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: climate change bullshit represents. But that's again a conversation for

1052
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: another time.

1053
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: So I'll come back for part two. But you have

1054
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: to tell your audience that they have to check out

1055
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: the Buck Sexton pod too, you know, and if they're

1056
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: not following me on my Twitter game is fierce. Okay,

1057
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: it is very sounds less fierce because I said that, but.

1058
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: Oh it's very fierce. It's very fierce. I mean, you're close.

1059
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: They followed me and Sean. Send us, you know, send

1060
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: Sean comments about this episode so he can read them

1061
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: back to me the next time. You guys can talk

1062
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: all kinds of smack as long as it's funny. I

1063
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: don't care. You know, people can be harsh as long

1064
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: as it has to be funny, though. It can't just

1065
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: be like, you know, f you like, that's boring. So anyway,

1066
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: but we know we love your people. Sean, thank you

1067
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: for having me, man, God bless You're a great friend.

1068
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: I appreciate getting to hang out with you, and I

1069
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: will see you next time.

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