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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: In other Miami news, the owner is selling I think

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Speaker 3: eighteen percent of the team.

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Speaker 4: Oh is it?

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Speaker 5: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so interested.

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Speaker 3: I'm still trying to buy a TV. You think the

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Speaker 3: Crafts would give me a piece of this team when

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Speaker 3: I retire.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's not really that bad.

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Speaker 3: A lot of calls, a lot of emails. People are excited.

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Speaker 3: I think it's because of the picks, but I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I'm disappointed that some people sort of questioned his loyalty.

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Speaker 6: I de escalated. I'm tossing the grenade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I noticed you came in here without your

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Speaker 3: little windbreaker, he said. My three favorite aspects of Evan

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Speaker 3: returning from practice when Evan is put on the spot

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Speaker 3: and asked to settle on argument from earlier in the

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Speaker 3: show you a lot. Patriots are gonna shock the world

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Speaker 3: this week, and they're gonna score twenty one points. This

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 3: at ji Lets Stadium, another episode of your favorite podcast

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Speaker 3: having to do with the New England Patriots. We're here

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Speaker 3: for the next two hours. It's Evan, it's Paul, it's me,

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Speaker 3: it's Deuce, it's Matt and Nabooth. And yeah, things aren't

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Speaker 3: good in Patriots Nation. I can tell you that that

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Speaker 3: was a that was a to say it's a winnable game,

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Speaker 3: I think is an understatement, and they blew that one.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if historic fashion is the right word,

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Speaker 3: but in ugly fashion. Uh. And then you know, things

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Speaker 3: are happening and oh, it's just not good. And and

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Speaker 3: then I can all I can say is at least

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Speaker 3: we're not the Jet right.

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Speaker 8: Well, we still have a head coach.

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Speaker 3: I guess right. Some people would with the emails that

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Speaker 3: we're getting, people are losing confident. Well, patience is a

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Speaker 3: good word, and I would say confidence, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean the hope, Like what again, I've said this

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Speaker 5: So that's accurate to me in terms of the record

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Speaker 5: you know, unexpected by a lot of people, right, but

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Speaker 5: I think you can expect more than the performance than

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Speaker 5: they put on Sunday now, more than you know, fourteen penalties,

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Speaker 5: twelve accepted, you know, not being able to muster more

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Speaker 5: per game. I think you could have reasonably expected more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they dropped the ball at least not actually Remondre

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Speaker 5: How you guys feel it almost kind of feels worse

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Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, yeah, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: I know that sounds silly, like why would you say

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Speaker 3: Want excuse for losing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, jeez, if you could just hold out of

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Speaker 5: with turnovers, we're handing opportunities, right, but not with turnovers.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that first game made you think that

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Speaker 3: They cannot afford it. I mean, to me, the one

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Speaker 5: And it didn't cost them anything because Gonzales makes the

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Speaker 5: Nothing to do with talent, you know, going back to

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Speaker 8: So it's frustrating because I felt like, personally, looking back

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Speaker 5: You go, yeah, it's a good point yep.

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Speaker 6: And you know Christian Barmore is the Batman. You know,

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Speaker 5: No, I I think there's a really good points that

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Speaker 3: That's sometimes that's because they're better than you.

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Speaker 5: That's not coaching right. Sometimes you just got because they're

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Speaker 5: I'll be defensive of the play calling later in the show.

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Speaker 5: Ye how about that for a previews?

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Speaker 3: And so I don't know, like what was going through

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Speaker 8: the time, you want to run the ball, you want

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Speaker 8: that to be your bread and butter. Well, and he's

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Speaker 8: You know, it's such ill time situational football.

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Speaker 3: It's just I mean, I'd rather see Brissett charge ahead

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Speaker 5: But I didn't even hate the idea of throwing the ball.

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Speaker 6: About like a little play.

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Speaker 5: We got to do it better. And it's not necessarily

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Speaker 6: Because when you watch right so then you watch the

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Speaker 6: a heel away from that being a great play call. Now,

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Speaker 6: a VP might say well, we had the exact right play.

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Speaker 5: Call out as definitely not as critical of that as

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Speaker 5: as some others have been. That's a great point, Like,

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Speaker 5: you know what, when you call a play and get

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Speaker 5: that's what you're looking for, right, I'm not. I don't

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna save that because it's a little bit long winded.

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Speaker 5: But the execution thing that you guys are talking about, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's you just got to execute better. I get like

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Speaker 5: those kinds of execution percentages with your personnel. What are

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Speaker 6: Yep, I get it.

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Speaker 5: If they executed the play properly, maybe there's a little

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Speaker 6: But the lack of scheme related conflict, like play action, motion,

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Speaker 6: they're thirty first in play action, they're twenty seventh in motion.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if that's absolutely true either, but

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Speaker 6: So there's a lot of it.

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Speaker 5: I don't care for it. I don't care for his comportment.

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Speaker 3: As I told you, I don't taken away from me.

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Speaker 5: And you know, but for whatever reason, those are similar

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like we were talking about it before the

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Speaker 5: I think it was a good move to do it

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Speaker 5: The only difference is they have a ton of young talent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, going back to our team, we're

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Speaker 5: I put that particular that element. That's a head coach thing.

435
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 5: A head coach needs to say, hey, Alex, we need

436
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 5: to make sure we're running the ball here, right, No,

437
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 5: we need to make sure that this is the last

438
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 5: possession of the half. We're backed up inside our ten.

439
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 5: We need to make sure that, above all else, this

440
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 5: is the last possession of the half. So you know,

441
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 5: if you want to say specifically to run it, fine,

442
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 5: Bill used to do that all the time. Yeah, Josh,

443
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 5: we're running it here. He would say it all the time. Situationally,

444
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 5: they need to be better.

445
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we're running it. You call it, you know,

446
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 6: like if it's power, if it's outside zone, like that's

447
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 6: that's your your way, that's your school, right, But we're

448
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 6: running it here. Just find a way to run the ball.

449
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 6: And what's our plan on third down? Like what how

450
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 6: are we picking up this blitz? How are we getting

451
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 6: receivers open? Who's hot? You know? Where's what are we

452
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 6: doing to handle these blitzes that they're throwing our way

453
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 6: right now? Too many times on film it just looks

454
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 6: like there's no real plan of protection routes. You know,

455
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 6: they're they're blitzing the crap out of per set. You

456
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 6: know that that's that's the plan right now, Manta man coverage,

457
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 6: Send everybody and get make him make a quick decision

458
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 6: with the ball. And you know he's just throwing like

459
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 6: a spot route over the middle of the field to

460
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 6: Austin Hooper, Like that's our best blitz beater is Austin

461
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 6: Hooper running seven yards up the field and turning around

462
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 6: and hoping that Persett hits them. You know that that's

463
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 6: that's our You know, we have guys like Pop Douglas.

464
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 6: You have guys like two running backs that can catch

465
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 6: the ball out of the backfield that if you get

466
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Speaker 6: them on the move somewhere against the blitz pressure like that,

467
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 6: then they're gonna have some space in some room to

468
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 6: run and right now, it's just okay, we're gonna go

469
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 6: five wide, they're gonna send pressure and we're gonna throw

470
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 6: the bottle a spot over the middle of the field

471
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 6: and hopefully it works out. And yeah, it's just not working.

472
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 6: Yeah that's not good enough.

473
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've come to a crossroads, I think. Uh

474
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: and you know, there are rumors out there that maybe

475
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 3: Mao makes the decision.

476
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Speaker 5: I thought your aunt sounded like he was ready. Yeah,

477
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 5: on Monday, I sort of fall in line. Normally, I

478
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 5: don't as you know, there's a lot of like media

479
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 5: narratives that I don't necessarily see the same way. But

480
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 5: I thought he sounded like a guy that was ready

481
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Speaker 5: to make it.

482
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Speaker 3: Oh, we talked about it on the postgame show. I

483
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 3: think I think it's time. I think you've got, you know,

484
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: a home game here and then you go to London,

485
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: which is gonna be kind of a neutral atmosphere. Uh

486
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 3: so maybe two environments in which a rookie quarterback can

487
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 3: operate for the first time in terms of you know,

488
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: being heard and getting signals out and all that stuff.

489
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: I think it's a good time to put him in.

490
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: I think if you wait any longer after these two games,

491
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Speaker 3: you might as well wait tilap to the buy.

492
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 5: And I would just say, you know, my two senses,

493
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 5: I don't think there's an ideal situation to put him in,

494
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 5: So why.

495
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: Not right right now? There's never going to be oh,

496
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: this is perfect, it's and and if and when they

497
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: put him in, it probably won't look that great. You know,

498
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm perfectly you know, expecting there to be a lot

499
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: of bumps and bruises and hiccups and roll.

500
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 5: You know, we ask you him like, did you think

501
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 5: it's you know, probably more geared to Evan because I

502
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 5: know you watched the film.

503
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 8: I did grind it again yesterday?

504
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 5: Did you grind it again? You know what, I'll open

505
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 5: it to you.

506
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 6: Good for you.

507
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 5: Do you feel like there were some signs, because this

508
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 5: is something that's been talked about a little bit the

509
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 5: last day and a half or so, that maybe there

510
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 5: were some plays that were to be made a little

511
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 5: a little bit more like they were a little closer,

512
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 5: let's put it, that, a little closer to having a

513
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 5: semblance of an offense in this game than maybe in

514
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Speaker 5: the previous four.

515
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Speaker 8: I mean, personally, just I'll tell you what I saw.

516
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 8: I didn't feel that way so much, not saying I

517
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 8: didn't I did either last game. I felt more that

518
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 8: way in this one. I saw a little bit more

519
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 8: out of the offensive line. I thought a couple you know,

520
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 8: the tackles specifically, Evan and I were talking about just

521
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 8: one play that stood out to me. It was the

522
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 8: first or second third down that they faced, but the

523
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 8: right tackle just threw his arms and the rusher just

524
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 8: died at the spot. I mean, it was like, and

525
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 8: I'm like, is that a strike system? Like did I

526
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 8: just see what this is what they've been talking about?

527
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 8: Because it was there was just a really impressive play

528
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 8: by it.

529
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Speaker 6: There was three guys on the ground on play.

530
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Speaker 8: Boom and the guy just drops in a way, and

531
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Speaker 8: I was like, well, where's the other guy? So that

532
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 8: to me stood out a little bit more as a positive.

533
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Speaker 5: I didn't generally you didn't necessarily see like no, not

534
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 5: not close, not just I would say I would agree, like,

535
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 5: I just thought it looked very similar production wise. Is

536
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 5: the other the other four One of the things people

537
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 5: have been saying, like, you know, they got this, they

538
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 5: get that. I mean, I I'd make fun of the

539
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 5: defense a lot for like like this this game a

540
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Speaker 5: lot of people say, you know, Girod said it, we

541
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 5: played defense good enough. I don't think you did. But

542
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 5: to me, no one ever takes the opponent into consideration.

543
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 5: Right the offensive line settled down after a tough start

544
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 5: because the other team didn't have any pass rushers available

545
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 5: in this game.

546
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 6: They were out Now, Phillips.

547
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 5: Didn't play, Jubb didn't play.

548
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Speaker 8: That's that's another thing about the strike system. I was like, well,

549
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 8: I don't know who this guy even is.

550
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 5: Chopping Steeler looked pretty good.

551
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Speaker 8: But one thing I didn't want to ask just run

552
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 8: past Evan Like what stood out to me a couple

553
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 8: of times and you kind of hinted at already were

554
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 8: on some of the blitzes, like who's the hot read

555
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 8: like who? Like because a couple of times there were

556
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 8: blitzes and there's no there's just no one to throw

557
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 8: to and they're sending five six guys and they're getting

558
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 8: there and it's like somebody's got to pop open quick,

559
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 8: and everybody's just running down the field just you know,

560
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 8: there's no chance. That was one thing that stood out

561
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 8: to me a little bit.

562
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that happened too often, even the last third

563
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 6: down at the game where they have six, they're bringing six,

564
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 6: they're bringing the house, and everybody's running into the end zone.

565
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 6: And I know it's third and ten, but like you

566
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 6: have two downs to get third and ten. So even

567
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 6: if you complete a five yard pass, like you still

568
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 6: are gonna go for it on fourth down anyways, but.

569
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 5: It's kind of my point. Yeah, so like you get

570
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 5: the near if you're Miami, you see what happens on

571
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 5: second down. You're lucky that you didn't give up the

572
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 5: go ahead touchdown, right right, So what did they say, Well,

573
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 5: we ain't letting that. We're not leaving this to chance again.

574
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: We're gonna come at them with everything on third and

575
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 5: fourth down because we're gonna get there if we do,

576
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 5: and they did on both plays. They got the ball

577
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 5: out real quick. I mean the fourth down play had

578
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 5: no shot.

579
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was pressure on all three of those final plays,

580
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 6: and we can get to the polk one in a second.

581
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 6: But I thought in this game there were four or

582
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 6: five opportunities, which granted is is small, Like we're talking

583
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 6: about very small margins. You know, I just watched the

584
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 6: Houston Texans offense against Buffalo last night, and they have

585
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 6: four or five opportunities a half. Not four or five

586
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 6: opportunities a game, but there's four or five opportunities where

587
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 6: a great throw would produce a big play for the Patriots.

588
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 6: I did not think Brissette was a train wreck in

589
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 6: this game. I didn't think he was terrible. I agree

590
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 6: he was worth it.

591
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 5: He had a couple opportunities for Polk. I mean obviously

592
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 5: a touchdown, there was one earlier in corn first half. Yeah,

593
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 5: Polk ran a nice route, got behind and the throw

594
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 5: was just overthrown, but not a lot. I didn't see

595
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 5: a lot of that.

596
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was definitely worse in San Francisco, And like

597
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 6: to Paul's point, it's a much better defense in the

598
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 6: forty nine ers and the Dolphins. But there's four or

599
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 6: five plays two to Polk. One was the corner route

600
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 6: early on that you're referencing. He had an out later

601
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: on in the game on third down that a great

602
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 6: quarterback and a great throw is a completion there. And

603
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 6: he also had a deep shot to Pop Douglas on

604
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 6: a play action play where he twisted the safety around

605
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 6: and he had a step on the safety and it

606
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 6: wasn't a great throw. And you just look at this offense,

607
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 6: and they can't afford to miss on those opportunities because

608
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 6: they don't present enough of them. So if you're wintling

609
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 6: it down to four or five plays, it's tough. It's

610
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 6: a tough, you know, grading system for Bersett. But at

611
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 6: the same time, does Drake May get in there and

612
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 6: does he hit that deep shot to pop Douglas, does

613
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 6: he hit that third down play under some pressure. Well,

614
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 6: we don't know until he gets out there and we

615
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 6: see it. But when I heard Girod talk about it,

616
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 6: that's what it is. It's not like he threw three

617
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 6: picks and two pick sixes and was an absolute mess

618
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 6: on Sunday. It's that there. It's just not good enough.

619
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: Like it's just not good And I'm not saying like

620
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: if May comes in, it's all of a sudden going

621
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: to be good enough and they're gonna win these games.

622
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: I want him in just to start the process of

623
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: learning how to play quarterback in the NFL. I don't

624
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: think that. I don't I'm not. I don't know, Like

625
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: if that throw to Poke at the end, if if

626
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: it's lower and Poke scores the touchdown, I maybe.

627
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 5: He sails it further off his head.

628
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: And I want him to start learning how to play quarterback.

629
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: And he played exactly the same as Prissette has played

630
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: for the most part. I mean, you know, obviously it

631
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 5: would look different because he has a different skill set,

632
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 5: but the similar production. I would still feel better about it,

633
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 5: right because I'm getting the guys some development time, some experience,

634
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 5: and I'm assuming he's going to get better. You know,

635
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 5: I have immense respect for what Prissette has done in

636
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 5: the first five weeks, so I know it probably doesn't

637
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 5: sound that way.

638
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: I have a lot of respect.

639
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 5: Like some of the throws he made in the fourth

640
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 5: quarter the other day while getting popped, we're pretty act.

641
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 6: The throw that he made to Kaishan Boudy on like

642
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 6: the true last drive of the game.

643
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 5: He breaks I didn't even see that he breaks down.

644
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 6: He breaks out of two sacks and then throws off

645
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 6: platform across the field on the move to a bullet

646
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 6: to Kaishan Boody. Like that's a great throw, Like that's

647
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 6: a big time throw. But the throw to the polk

648
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 6: on the potential game winner is just it's just too high,

649
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: Like it throw is too high, just a little too high.

650
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 6: And those are the margins for them right now, you

651
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 6: know that that.

652
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 5: That it was really he didn't have to get that.

653
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 6: Over well, so you know we thought that so on

654
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 6: when who gave up some pressure on the inside on

655
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 6: the play, and like my one critique of that was

656
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 6: just that's your eighteen million dollar a year guard, you know,

657
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 6: he he he draws, he draws the one on one

658
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 6: because he's the.

659
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 5: Guy, and hey, there's any any sort of coverage in

660
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: front that he had.

661
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 6: But it's a it's a classic Tampa two hole shot.

662
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 6: Like right, you know, Tampa two lineback course. So the

663
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 6: linebackers carrying the vertical three up his three. Right, when

664
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 6: three guys go vertical, the linebacker carries the vertical, the

665
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 6: two safeties are in the split field, and he's splitting

666
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 6: the two safeties up the middle. What you want to

667
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 6: do is put the ball right over the guy's head,

668
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 6: like right, like put it right over the linebackers because

669
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 6: he's his back is to the quarterback, so he can't

670
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 6: see the ball coming. So all you gotta do is

671
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 6: just zing it right over his head and then Polk

672
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 6: doesn't have to to jump. Yeah, and that's the difference,

673
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 6: you know, do I does Drake may make that throw.

674
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, but but at least I want him

675
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: in there trying, yeah, right, like and learn from it.

676
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: If he threw that same throw into the third row,

677
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 5: I would still feel better.

678
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 6: But I am dead.

679
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: I totally get what you're saying with you.

680
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 8: I just think with May when he gets in, and

681
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 8: I think it's good that we're having a conversation now

682
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 8: about you know, before it happens, of like reasonably, what's

683
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 8: the expectations, because there probably are some fans out there

684
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 8: that expect that it will be better, and I don't

685
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 8: know necessarily to be better. I just want to see flashes,

686
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 8: you know, I want to see what we saw this summer,

687
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 8: which was all right, yeah he airmailed that one, like you,

688
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 8: there's gonna be some airmails like that's kind of what

689
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 8: he did in college a little bit too. But there's

690
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 8: also just that arm and that willingness to throw the

691
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 8: ball down the field and some of these plays where

692
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 8: some of them it's a guy has a half a

693
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 8: step and looking on you know, when we look back

694
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 8: at it, it doesn't look like he missed the play. But

695
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 8: for May, if that might be a misplay, what would.

696
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 5: You say is the most think the thing that you've

697
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 5: been most impressed about with Brissett through the five games toughness, right,

698
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 5: So that perfect. Finally I asked her, I had no question,

699
00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 5: and he got it right.

700
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 8: I always get scared when you ask me a question like

701
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 8: what road are you trying to watch me that ball?

702
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 5: I'm not going to mount Cooks with you, but I

703
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 5: would totally agree that like his ability to take hits

704
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 5: and keep getting up in his toughness. So I also

705
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 5: think that's a really valuable thing. And I don't want

706
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: Drake May to get hurt. I've said this a million times,

707
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 5: but I think it's great that you're going to find

708
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 5: out a little bit about the toughness of your your

709
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 5: presumptive franchise quarterback. Yeah, you know that's why I You know,

710
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 5: if I would grad, i'd make I'd make the move.

711
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: If it's not this week, it would be in London.

712
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 5: It's got to be soon.

713
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: I'm ready.

714
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 6: Yeah. I just think the biggest thing too, is, you

715
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 6: know I mentioned earlier that they're playing they're seeing a

716
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 6: ton of man coverage and they're seeing a ton of

717
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 6: blitz pressure. No team in the league sees more man

718
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 6: coverage than the Patriots.

719
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: Right now.

720
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, because they just know the outside receivers are not special,

721
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 6: so they're not going to win against man to man consistently.

722
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 6: But the difference is is that if you put Drake

723
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 6: in there, he can run.

724
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

725
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 6: So like now, if you're gonna blitz him and then

726
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 6: you're gonna be man to man everywhere. If you don't

727
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 6: have a spy or something like that accounting for the coquarterback,

728
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 6: then he's gonna get outside the pocket and he's gonna

729
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 6: pick up the first down with his legs, or he's

730
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 6: gonna get out and he's gonna improvise and he's gonna

731
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 6: throw on the move. And I understand people want him

732
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 6: to play quarterback from the pocket, but that is what

733
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 6: this offense needs right now, is somebody to elevate that element.

734
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 5: Something extra to make up for the fact that they

735
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 5: can't win all of these one on one messages all

736
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 5: the time.

737
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: And we see it every week in almost every game.

738
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks have to run every once in a while, and

739
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: when they do, it's a backbreaker for the defense. It's

740
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: you know, they got everybody covered down downfield, the pocket's

741
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: broken up, and then the quarterback runs for fifteen yards.

742
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: You need to have a couple of those in a game.

743
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 8: Did you see any of those Mahome scrambles last night?

744
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 6: Like you see the one d.

745
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 5: The play was an incomplete pass. But and this is

746
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: where I know that, you know, I know, I know

747
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 5: the Patriots fans love these when when as as as

748
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 5: TJ said last night, I'm so sick of them glazing.

749
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 5: I just started laughing that just looking us like I'm

750
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 5: not that.

751
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: Language.

752
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: There was a play in the red zone where he

753
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 5: started scrambling around and he just did a like a

754
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: complete spin spin spin around it. There was no one there,

755
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 5: and I was just like like, what was that?

756
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 6: Unbelievable?

757
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: But there was another play around midfield where you know,

758
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: his pockets broken, you know broken, contained makes a guy

759
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: miss in the backfield and he's not even running, but

760
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 3: he's got such field awareness and all of a sudden

761
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: and then he just runs out of bound just before

762
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: the guy gets to him, and he's got like twelve

763
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 3: thirteen yards.

764
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, the play that he made, the when he dove

765
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 6: for the pylon, he out to two tackles at once.

766
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 6: I was just like, holy crap. I didn't know he

767
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 6: was that quick, you know, Like that was impressive, but

768
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 6: like not to put it all on Drake May that

769
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 6: he's got to do those kinds of things. But he

770
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 6: can do those kinds of things. And then if you

771
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 6: get outside the pocket and we're man to man across

772
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 6: the board, maybe Pop Douglas pops free late in the down,

773
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 6: Maybe Polk gets opened down in the field, and now

774
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 6: it's a big play, you know, we're talking about maybe

775
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 6: Juju smith Hussey.

776
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty yards or whatever he got.

777
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 6: I was so mad about that.

778
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 5: But that dropped touchdown for a pick.

779
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 8: That's oh yeah, that's so. That's why I wake up

780
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 8: this morning. I didn't watch all the game enough. But

781
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 8: then I see do we make a mistake letting? And

782
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 8: I'm like, I refuse to ever get off of the

783
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 8: hill that juju was washed here.

784
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 5: It would only be a mistake if Mahomes was our quarter.

785
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: But every catch he had, He's.

786
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 8: Like, why no one even near him? And then of

787
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 8: course I'm like, oh, wait, what's this. Oh he fumbled

788
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 8: it off his hands in the end zone into the

789
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 8: other game. That's the juju we saw and he turned what.

790
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 5: Was I mean, I don't know how much of the

791
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 5: game you saw. That was an absolute blowout last night.

792
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 5: I mean, like it was not competitive y. Yeah, And

793
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 5: that play made the game somewhat competitive on the scoreboard

794
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, like they're going in to make

795
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 5: a twenty three to seven. He drops the touchdown and

796
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 5: basically leads to a touchdown the other way. It's all

797
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 5: of a sudden, it's sixteen thirteen in a game that

798
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like the Chiefs felt like they were

799
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 5: ahead by four scores.

800
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 6: They doubled up them in yards time of possession.

801
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was not a competitive game.

802
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

803
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 8: It's the weird part to me that with May is

804
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 8: like I never thought with Brissette, like I for some reason,

805
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 8: I just thought he'd be able to take the easy

806
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 8: stuff and like that seems a struggle to me. And

807
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 8: I'm surprised. And I know that it's probably asking a

808
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 8: lot for Drake me to come in and process as

809
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 8: quickly as gonna need to hit those quick shots. But

810
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 8: I never thought that. That's what my biggest complaint with

811
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 8: Jacoby Brissett would be, Like he can't take the layups,

812
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 8: Like the layups that are there.

813
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 6: I think a lot of it. I'm not gonna like

814
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 6: I'm not in I don't know what they're coaching them

815
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 6: to do when it comes to pre snapper reeds and

816
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 6: things like that. But if you're going to be a

817
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 6: quarterback that's a little bit limited in terms of his

818
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 6: physical tools, then you gotta dominate mentally, Like you gotta

819
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 6: be able to come to the line of scrimmage, know

820
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 6: where your numbers are, know where the line is, you

821
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 6: know where's the pressure coming from, how are we blocking this,

822
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 6: Where am I going with the ball? And just all

823
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 6: of that just right now just doesn't seem to be clicking.

824
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: Get it out.

825
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 8: I mean, that's maybe my biggest question with Drake is

826
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 8: would he be able to get it out quick? When

827
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 8: he gets it? You know, is going to be or

828
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 8: is it.

829
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: Going to be like it's all going to be? Yeah,

830
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: you know, this is where we have to be watching.

831
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: How is he processing, what decisions is he making? How

832
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: is he under pressure? That's what it's all about.

833
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 5: And that should be the only thing for or against

834
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 5: him playing those things.

835
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 8: The speed of the game, and compared to some of

836
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 8: the performances of the other rookie quarterbacks who have all

837
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 8: you know, had some success but have had ups and downs.

838
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 8: Two in these few first.

839
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 5: And I would hope that we're not doing that at all.

840
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 5: I would hope that the coaches don't really care what's

841
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 5: going on in those other three places because they're not here.

842
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 5: I would hope that it's just about what Fred just

843
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 5: talked about, like how quickly is he processing here?

844
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: And here's something I'm anxious about. We talked about Drawed Mayo,

845
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: first year head coach, having the support that he needs.

846
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: Does Mayo have the support he needs? You know, is

847
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: at this point Alex van Pelt so caught up in

848
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: how he's calling the game and getting ready, you know,

849
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: the game plan that May's not getting the attention, and

850
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: and you know, what's Ben mcadoo's role, Like, how is

851
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: he supporting Tissa McCartney is a young guy, Like, I

852
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: don't think that he can be that much of a support. So, like,

853
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 3: is what support is may getting in this critical time?

854
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it's great, I just don't know.

855
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm anxious about it. I'm anxious.

856
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 8: I mean the reps thing was a little bit of

857
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 8: a glimpse of, you know, prioritizing his development even though

858
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 8: he's still the backup quarterback. I would just hope that

859
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 8: when they do make the switch Jacoby Brissett. I mean,

860
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 8: now everybody's focused on getting the kid ready, preparing him,

861
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 8: making sure he's you know, it's not like Paul said,

862
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 8: it's it's gonna be dicey no matter when he gets

863
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 8: in there for a variety of reasons. But you just

864
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 8: you want to give him all the tools you can.

865
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: Good luck kid, all right, TPX heutline is eight five

866
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: to five past five hundred, eight five five past five hundred.

867
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: Let's get to some of the listeners and emailers and

868
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: callers and and all that good stuff. We'll start with

869
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: Patty and Agawam. What's up Patty?

870
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 6: Hey, Patty.

871
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 9: So I've sent Tom down since I woke up this

872
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 9: morning because I was pretty heated. I was gonna go

873
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 9: on a rant. But what basically all boils down to

874
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 9: is Jacoby's a backup quarterback. We all know that I

875
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 9: said before you know I said leading up to the game.

876
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 9: I said in the pregame show, I thought the past

877
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 9: we're gonna lose. And my reason was you can't consistently

878
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 9: throw for as a team one hundred and fifty yards

879
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 9: or less every game and expect to win.

880
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well, it didn't happen. Fred, No, I know,

881
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: but but go ahead and you.

882
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 9: Could say he wasn't a train wreck. But I don't know.

883
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 9: To me, it's just I like, like you like you

884
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 9: guys said, like I want to see if the kid

885
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 9: can play, put him in there, and Paul like, I'm

886
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 9: with you, like, I don't know. I don't know if

887
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 9: the Mario Douglas is a good player. I don't know

888
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 9: if Jalm Polk is a good player, because at this

889
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 9: point we have a backup quarterback on to him and

890
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 9: I don't I'm not saying the rookie is going to

891
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 9: be any better, but at least give him a chance

892
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 9: to be better. And I'll say this, like, if we

893
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 9: might have a chance to win maybe three games for

894
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 9: the rest of the year, if Drake may plays, if

895
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 9: if Jacobe's the starter for the rest of the game,

896
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 9: for the rest of the season, I mean, we might

897
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 9: have seen the one game that we won all year.

898
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 9: But that's that's kind of where I'm at right now.

899
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna you know, I'm gonna watch every game

900
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 9: so I can just do this, you know, pretty much

901
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 9: like after that that touchdown that wasn't and it wasn't

902
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 9: a touchdown to anybody that's gonna call up and complain

903
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 9: and say they should change to the rule. That's always

904
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 9: been the rule.

905
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't think we didn't get any

906
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 5: calls like that in the post game, which if we're

907
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 5: going to get him that half his.

908
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 9: Toes and lifts his feet up and his butt hits

909
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 9: out of bounds, it's a touchdown. Hit the ground exactly.

910
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 9: It's just like but I just I'm sorry, go ahead, Paul, Now, I.

911
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: Was just gonna say, it's just like the opening game

912
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: of the NFL season, the kickoff Baltimore and Kansas City,

913
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 5: Isaiah likely catches it pass at the end of the game,

914
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 5: he has one foot in bounds. The second foot the

915
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 5: heel comes down and comes all the way down, and

916
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 5: then his toe ever.

917
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 6: So slightly hit the white right.

918
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 5: That's only one foot in bound.

919
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: A lot of people are under the mistaken impression that

920
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: a toe tap ends the play. It doesn't end the play, no,

921
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: you know.

922
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 5: Usually toe taps are on the sideline and a guy's

923
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 5: leaning over the sideline toes you know, toes first and

924
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 5: he tumbles out of bound.

925
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 3: Right right, and go ahead, Patty.

926
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, and like, if you look at

927
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 9: the defense we we I think we have studs on

928
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 9: defense in my opinion, that's just my opinion. Gonzales is

929
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 9: a stud. You know, God willing he comes back healthy.

930
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 9: I think Briston Marmore is a stud. I know I'm

931
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 9: throwing some caveats, but like legal problems with stan thing,

932
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 9: Jabil Peppers, in my opinion, is a stud. And we

933
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 9: got good guys. You know, there are no studs on offense,

934
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 9: or at least we don't know if we have any

935
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 9: studs on offense. If we if Drake May turns out

936
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 9: to be a stud, that is a huge building block.

937
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 9: Let's get the friggin process started.

938
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: Yep, that's where guys. All right, thanks Patty. Patty woke up.

939
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: He was ready to go. You know, he's not a rant.

940
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 3: Let's go to Cameron in North Carolina. I hate Cameron.

941
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 9: Hey, guys. I was listening to the Post and.

942
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 10: A couple of things that really stood out to me

943
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 10: was with Jacoby's interview and Remandre's interview. And I feel

944
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 10: like there was a lot of subtle shots taken, but Jacoby,

945
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 10: he just kept harping on fundamentals fundamentals that we do

946
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 10: fundamentals this and that, and then Remandre was really hopping

947
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 10: on that the play that's called should be the play.

948
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 10: It is what it is, and we need to just

949
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 10: run the play. Am I looking too much into that?

950
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 10: Or did you guys also know that something with that.

951
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: Well with the Jacoby in the front of metals, that

952
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: was the message in the locker room for from Mayo.

953
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 5: So I'm sure penalties. Yeah, So like I think he

954
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 5: said we take one step forward and like twenty steps back.

955
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what Mayo was saying. So I think

956
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: Brissette was just saying what Mayo said the Remondre one.

957
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what do you guys?

958
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 5: I was not aware of that comment. Have we taking

959
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: that as a shot at maybe some of his teammates

960
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 5: who are freelancing on offense? Like I know we had

961
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 5: defense freelancing, you know, accusations from Godschaw the week before.

962
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 5: Is that what that means? I didn't know.

963
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 6: I'm not familiar with the steam.

964
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 10: I mean I was in there like three or four

965
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 10: different times about just like you know, he touched on it,

966
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 10: you know, like the play call of the play call.

967
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 9: It is what it is we need to just run

968
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 9: the play that's called.

969
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 10: And he said it like two or three different times.

970
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 5: So it sounds to me like people were complaining that

971
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 5: they didn't run the ball up.

972
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I was going to.

973
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 5: And he's saying, it doesn't matter what the play call is,

974
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 5: it's on us. So he's not I would say, he's

975
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 5: not calling out his teammates they were at all. I

976
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: think he's saying, what's on us to execute the play.

977
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they ran the ball well in this game.

978
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 6: They averaged almost eight yards of carry and they ran

979
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 6: it with the running backs eighteen times.

980
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 5: Right, So now I'm going to get to this.

981
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 6: This is what I I've talked about.

982
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 5: So all right, the whole thanks to well, they didn't

983
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 5: run the ball enough and you know, they got way

984
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: out of whack and like, yeah, I mean I think,

985
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 5: and I think Evan said it earlier. There's always like

986
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 5: an individual play you could say, like, well, why didn't

987
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 5: they run it there? And I certainly think it's a

988
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 5: fair second guess, second guess on first and first and

989
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 5: ten from the twelve at the end of the game,

990
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: with that much time left and all three timeouts, you

991
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 5: certainly had plenty of time to run the ball if

992
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 5: you wanted to. Okay, I have to be honest, and

993
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 5: I'm going to be completely forthcoming. Watching the game and

994
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 5: watching four straight passes, I did not even blink. I

995
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 5: didn't blink at all. I expected them to throw the

996
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 5: ball into the end zone four times, and they did.

997
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 5: It didn't bother me at all. If they had run

998
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 5: the ball wouldn't have bothered me either, because of what

999
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 5: I just said. They had plenty of time. They threw

1000
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 5: the ball thirty four times, they ran it nineteen times.

1001
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 5: You do realize they were looking and one of the

1002
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 5: narrators was in a game they were leading the whole way. Okay, yes,

1003
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 5: they were leading the game the whole way until the

1004
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 5: last two times they had the ball, in which case,

1005
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 5: the last seventeen plays of the game they threw it

1006
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 5: fourteen times.

1007
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 6: That's where it got out of whack.

1008
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 5: Otherwise in the game it was basically fifty to fifty,

1009
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 5: which in the NFL is rare.

1010
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great example of you can't just look

1011
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: at the box score after the game and make conclusions.

1012
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: You have to see it in contact.

1013
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 5: They had a fourteen play drive that got down to

1014
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 5: the twelve yard line. That was eleven passes in three runs.

1015
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 5: And then the last time they got the ball, obviously

1016
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 5: they threw it. You know, it was desperation. They threw

1017
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 5: it all three times. So I believe listen, I might

1018
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 5: be off by a play or I might have counted

1019
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: a penalty, and I believe it was fourteen into the

1020
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 5: last seventeen plays they threw the ball. So if you

1021
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 5: take away fourteen pass attempts, it goes from thirty four

1022
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: to twenty.

1023
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 6: Right, Is that outrageous?

1024
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 5: They're losing fifteen to ten with four minutes left in

1025
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 5: the game. Are they supposed to just say, you know what,

1026
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 5: let's go three yards with the call to dust and

1027
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 5: see if we can go seventy yards?

1028
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1029
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 6: Like they were.

1030
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: Losing at the end of the game, that's why they'd started.

1031
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 6: Throwing the ball.

1032
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 5: Like I absolutely think when you average, as Evan just said,

1033
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 5: your two running backs averaged over seven yards of carry,

1034
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 5: I believe they set a franchise record for average per

1035
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 5: carry for an entire game. They ran the ball exceptionally well.

1036
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: And it wasn't just believe me, you guys know, I

1037
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 5: pick on these things. It wasn't just thirty three yard

1038
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 5: run for Stevenson, twenty four yard run for Gibson. Take

1039
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 5: those out, they still had healthy averages, both of them

1040
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 5: over five yards of carry without the big plays. So

1041
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 5: they ran the ball really well in this game, and

1042
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 5: I would not argue that maybe they should have run

1043
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 5: it a little bit more.

1044
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 6: But this hole, like they did it backwards.

1045
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 5: Mike, which I heard yesterday from my boys, right like,

1046
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 5: I just did they watch the game and did they

1047
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 5: think that it was out of whack all game? And

1048
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 5: if you go back and you look when they stopped

1049
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 5: running the ball, there is almost always a good reason.

1050
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 5: If you see it, it's run, run, run, holding call

1051
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 5: first and twenty Now we're behind the chains, right, yeah,

1052
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 5: because they had a ton of holding calls in that game,

1053
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 5: which by the way, wiped out a lot of runs

1054
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: because a lot of the holding calls were on runs,

1055
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 5: you know. And how many holes did we have five?

1056
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 6: I think it was seven total in the game between

1057
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 6: the two teams.

1058
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 5: So four or five on the Patriots, and some of

1059
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 5: those were runs, they weren't just I know one at

1060
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: least was on a pass. But you know, they had

1061
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 5: like a run around the end by Gibson, I think

1062
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 5: toward the end of the game that got called back

1063
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 5: for a hold. So now it's first and twenty, you know,

1064
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 5: with you know, inside the too minute warning. Should we

1065
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 5: see if we can run three times and get twenty yards?

1066
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: Right?

1067
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 11: Like?

1068
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 5: This is all I'm saying is I think it's too

1069
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 5: easy to just blame it all on Alex van Peltz.

1070
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 5: I don't think that he called a horrific game in

1071
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 5: this game. I just don't think, you know, there were

1072
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 5: things that I would nitpick, because that's what I do.

1073
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 5: But I don't think that they didn't run the ball

1074
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 5: like they ran the ball exceptionally well in that game.

1075
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 5: You want to run it a few more times, fine.

1076
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 8: But what's a good example for what happens when you

1077
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 8: run rights? That's your example of a.

1078
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 5: Oh and by the way, the Dolphins had one hundred

1079
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 5: and ninety three yards rushing and they didn't score either.

1080
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 6: I just think the part that I just can't wrap

1081
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 6: my head around is how they're not productive in the

1082
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 6: play action game. It just it doesn't compute that they're

1083
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 6: a good running team and these teams are stacking the

1084
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 6: box and they're putting you know, seven eight guys in

1085
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 6: the box all the time because they're a good running

1086
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 6: team and they just generate no yards off of play action,

1087
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 6: like they had twenty three yards off of four play

1088
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 6: action dropbacks in this game, twenty three Like they should

1089
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 6: be a prolific play action passing team, you would think,

1090
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 6: and they just can't get that element of their offense going.

1091
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 6: So now you don't have like the yin and the

1092
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 6: yang of the run games, so can you have, Like.

1093
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 5: I'm curious as to what you think the reason why

1094
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 5: they haven't been able to hit more of those plays.

1095
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 5: Is it just because or is it too simplistic for

1096
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 5: simpleton like me to say when they're taking those shots

1097
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 5: with play action, it's still predominantly man coverage, and they're

1098
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 5: able to cover the guys well enough that they're not

1099
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 5: getting Amari Cooper, you know, for a sixty yard touchdown

1100
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 5: like Cleveland would, or David Nujoku, you know, winning his

1101
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 5: matchup down the seam, you know, is different than Austin Hooper,

1102
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 5: as you said, running an eight yard come back.

1103
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of that and Jacoby Brissett.

1104
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 6: And yeah, the line player. Yeah, no, there are some

1105
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 6: man coverage opportunities where they run play action I think

1106
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 6: of not in this game necessarily, but last week in

1107
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 6: San Francis, they put six offensive linemen on the field

1108
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 6: and they called one shot play play action, and it

1109
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 6: was man to man coverage. And when you play man like,

1110
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 6: those guys are not worried about the run, so it's

1111
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 6: not really as much conflict. You're trying to that's what

1112
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 6: you're trying to. You're trying to dial it up against zone.

1113
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 6: They did in this game have a couple of split

1114
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 6: safety zone shots where I didn't love the timing of

1115
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 6: the play like that to me is like, okay, if

1116
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 6: you see the two deep safeties like check back into

1117
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 6: a run, Like, why are you calling play action into

1118
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 6: a split safety coverage. That's not what you're looking for.

1119
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 6: You're looking for the single high safety. So that happens sometimes,

1120
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 6: and then they miss some opportunities down the field too.

1121
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 3: All right, TPS outline eight five five past five hundred.

1122
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 3: Let's go to James and Idaho. What's up?

1123
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 12: James, Hi, thank you for your content.

1124
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: You're welcome.

1125
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 12: So I have been listening. My question it's sort of expanded.

1126
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 12: I'll try to keep this brief. I guess could you

1127
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 12: or would you tell us about quarterback coaching. So the

1128
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 12: question that was just asked is why can't we hit

1129
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 12: some of those play action playoffs and passes? And my

1130
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 12: thoughts on Jakoby is that I think he's the perfect

1131
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 12: guy for where we are. He's a mile better than

1132
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 12: Cam Newton or mac Jones. But he looks like he

1133
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 12: telegraphs all this passes. His head goes to one side

1134
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 12: of the field and it doesn't move, And I want

1135
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 12: to know if he can be coached to look at

1136
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 12: if he can go through his reach fast or whatever

1137
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 12: it is. It just looks like, you know where he's

1138
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 12: trying to go with the ball every time, and then

1139
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 12: it ends up that they're covered, and then he's trying

1140
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 12: to force the ball in somewhere else and he's run

1141
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 12: out of time because the offensive line is that great.

1142
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 12: What I really want to know is about Drake May

1143
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 12: because every time they showed Drake, he's on the sideline,

1144
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 12: standing by himself and playing with his earpiece or something,

1145
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 12: and I'm wondering why he's not on watching the game.

1146
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 12: You know, Jacoby is not a bad quarterback, He's not

1147
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 12: one of the greats, obviously, but why isn't Drake May

1148
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 12: studying the Kobe.

1149
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: All right, what I got it, James, That's exactly what

1150
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 3: he's doing.

1151
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 6: Yeah. So he stands on the sideline behind the offense,

1152
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 6: like where a play caller would stand, and he's playing

1153
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 6: quarterback with the earpiece in his head so he's hearing

1154
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 6: the call. And then he's literally standing right behind Jacoby

1155
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 6: but obviously to the side, and he's going through the

1156
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 6: motions of what he would be doing pre m post snap.

1157
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 6: So he's he's literally doing exactly what James was describing.

1158
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. No, Yeah, he's paying

1159
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 3: attention and he's doing what he's being told to do.

1160
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1161
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a big part of it too. You

1162
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 6: know some of the conversations that I've had with him is,

1163
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 6: you know, he's not the quarterback, so like he doesn't

1164
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 6: want to get in Jacoby and at Alex vand Pelt's

1165
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 6: way on game day. You know, it's it's not I

1166
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 6: know people are saying all wise and he's sitting there,

1167
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 6: you know, as they're going through the stills and stuff

1168
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 6: like that, it's because it's their show, Like they're working

1169
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 6: with Jacoby. They're not there to to work with him.

1170
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 6: Necessarily in that moment, you know. So he's doing exactly

1171
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 6: what he's told.

1172
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dcent Baltimore, Hey d.

1173
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 14: Hello, Hey, yea, how you guys are doing good?

1174
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 15: But we all agree we want to see Drake may

1175
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 15: play at one point.

1176
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I want to see him play, right now.

1177
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1178
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 15: Yeah, but I don't know how good he had been.

1179
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 15: His offense that Alason Pelp is calling, it's too plain,

1180
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 15: it ain't creative at all. It doesn't make the defense

1181
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 15: break at all. He just come on there and it's

1182
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,959
Speaker 15: just straight to the point. They don't make the defense think.

1183
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but you're you're could be one hundred percent right.

1184
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 3: But for me, that's no reason not to start playing

1185
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: them and maybe they can evolve a.

1186
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 15: I'm saying for Drink, I would like for him to play,

1187
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 15: but I don't know how it will be good. I

1188
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 15: don't think he know how to coach this this type

1189
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 15: of quarterback.

1190
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I think his offense.

1191
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 15: Is like it's outdated, it ain't creative, and it don't

1192
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 15: use no motion. Most of the teams that use the

1193
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 15: motion is the highest score officers in the league. Yeah,

1194
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 15: so how you not using no motion motion makes the defense.

1195
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: Think I'm hoping. I'm hoping that the only reason it

1196
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: is the way you say it is right now is

1197
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: because Brissett's limited and once May gets in there, they'll

1198
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: cater a little bit to his talents a little bit more.

1199
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 15: But we'll say this new style offense, I think he's

1200
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 15: stuck in his ways and make Drake May play the

1201
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 15: way he wanted the players that it was working for him.

1202
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not as worried about that piece. But you

1203
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 6: know the way that De's describing creativity, I mean, Dallas

1204
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 6: and Cleveland do the exact same thing. So like this

1205
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 6: coaching tree just doesn't believe in motion in the way

1206
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 6: that Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan and uh, those guys

1207
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 6: believe in motion. And I don't necessarily agree with it either,

1208
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 6: but that's their philosophy. They motion with the purpose. They

1209
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 6: don't motion as window dressing. They're not just gonna send

1210
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 6: a guy across the formation just to as eye candy

1211
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 6: for the defense. If they're motioning, it's because there's a

1212
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 6: reason behind why they think it's gonna help the play operate.

1213
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 6: And a lot of these guys that motion as much

1214
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 6: as you know the Rams, the Dolphins, like those teams,

1215
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 6: they're just motioning sometimes just to as window dressing like.

1216
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: So so when Kansas City runs in a circle like that,

1217
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: and then that's not what eye candy, I'm only kidding waste.

1218
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 6: The time, I mean before end looks.

1219
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 5: Last night brought back bad memories of the Patriots when

1220
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 5: had the four tight ends with the Scott Chandler era.

1221
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 16: There's a Chandler, Yeah, And it is unbelievable the amount

1222
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 16: or the how few like tight window throws Mahomes has

1223
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 16: to make because dudes are just wide open down the field.

1224
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 5: It's uncann In particular last night, I thought it was

1225
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: amazing with how many times that happens, given you know,

1226
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 5: another personnel loss and then suddenly that's probably was the

1227
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 5: best offensive game of the year.

1228
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 6: How is Travis Kelsey still so open in the middle

1229
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 6: of the field.

1230
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: Well, I mean remember back to the early knots when

1231
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning was our biggest rival, and you know, games

1232
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 3: that the Patriots were, you know, Marvin Harris would be

1233
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 3: wide open. It's like, how is that? How is that possible?

1234
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 3: Julian Edelman, you know it's because of Peyton Manning. Like

1235
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: they're so afraid and they're like, you know.

1236
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 8: I don't know, third and fifteen might want to cover

1237
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 8: an Edelman.

1238
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 6: It is the super Bowl.

1239
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, three in a row.

1240
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: Whatever.

1241
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 3: Kendall's in North Carolina. Hate Kendall.

1242
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 15: Hey, what's going on?

1243
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 12: Guy Ken?

1244
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:08,479
Speaker 15: Hey?

1245
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 9: I want to know how many peaks I think we

1246
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 9: would have total in the draft of April, and which

1247
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 9: I think we can get for.

1248
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: It's kind of muffled. They can't hear.

1249
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 5: Where could they get for Tae Kwon Thornton. Maybe a

1250
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 5: conditional Day.

1251
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 8: Three picky, I would like just one snap.

1252
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah he's not I mean he's I've sort of like

1253
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 5: felt like I kind of championed his cause a little

1254
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 5: bit this summer. I thought he had another good training camp.

1255
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 6: I was, I was cautious.

1256
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 5: I wasn't all in. But he's just not really playing

1257
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 5: a role. The draft.

1258
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 8: I think they got about ten right now.

1259
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: Do they?

1260
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 6: I haven't low.

1261
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's the only one I knew of.

1262
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 6: I haven't in my notes.

1263
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 5: I would think that the best they're going to get

1264
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 5: for Taekwon Thwton is a conditional seventh round pick. If

1265
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: he ends up staying on a team's roster, then maybe it.

1266
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 8: Seems like Booty has you know, I mean I thought

1267
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 8: Booty was was probably a little bit better than him,

1268
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 8: maybe a little bit more consistent, But it seems like

1269
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 8: Booty surpassed him. And now it's born Polk and Douglas.

1270
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 8: That's probably the main trio, and you'll see a smattering

1271
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 8: of Booty in there. But I don't I don't know

1272
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 8: if Thornton, I mean, he might really be on the

1273
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 8: way out.

1274
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you have two other receivers that run

1275
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 5: the inactive list. Yeah, you know, you know, Osborne for

1276
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 5: injury and Baker obviously a healthy scratch. But I just

1277
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 5: don't know if there's a role here for Thornton that

1278
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 5: you know, we should mention luck On fora threw that

1279
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 5: out there late last week that the Patriots have, you know,

1280
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 5: willing to take offers calls on on Thornton. That to

1281
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 5: me is usually the precursor to a release. I wouldn't

1282
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 5: be surprised. You know, they have a lot of receivers

1283
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 5: that aren't playing, and I don't know how many roster

1284
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 5: spots you can afford to do that with.

1285
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 3: So I was waiting for an email like this, and

1286
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: here it is. Jake writes, in can we get a

1287
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: wrap from Evan and Fred? And what happened last week?

1288
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered? No, No, I think it's fair. I was

1289
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: waiting for somebody to ask, and I don't know. If

1290
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 3: Evan you want to go first, I'm willing to go first,

1291
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: but go ahead.

1292
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 6: I'll let you go first.

1293
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I mean my part of that is

1294
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 3: after Evan's comments, Uh, you know, I felt that it

1295
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: was just so egregiously inaccurate that I scrubbed it. I

1296
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: scrubbed it from the on demand version. And that was

1297
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: a bad move by me. I shouldn't have done that.

1298
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: It was out there, everybody was talking about it.

1299
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 13: You know.

1300
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: My instinct was I just didn't want it living on

1301
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: our platforms. But I made it worse by by scrubbing

1302
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: it and created a second story that was all on me.

1303
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: That was no one telling us to do that, And

1304
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: that's that's what That's what pissed me off the most

1305
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: about what I did is that other people were getting

1306
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: blamed for it. Uh. And I'm the one that did that.

1307
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,479
Speaker 3: I you know, Paul, you know, we've never been told, never,

1308
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: not once by anyone on the team to take something

1309
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 3: down or to not write this or to not say that.

1310
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: Have they been pissed at what we've done. Absolutely, we've

1311
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: gotten in trouble of those times. Yeah, but we've never

1312
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: been censored.

1313
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 15: Uh.

1314
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: That was all on me that I did that, and uh,

1315
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: you know it was a bad move, so meacopa, yep.

1316
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean obviously, I I feel like what I

1317
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 6: said on the Sports of is what I would say now. Uh,

1318
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 6: you know, I misspoke, Like I misspoke, I used a

1319
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 6: word now was way over the top, and exaggeration of

1320
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 6: what was going on got carried away in a in

1321
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 6: a debate. I think the one thing that I would

1322
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 6: just say for myself to get off my chest a

1323
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 6: little bit, is just I wasn't reporting anything like that

1324
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 6: was my opinion of the situation. I feel like it

1325
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 6: got a little bit misconstrued that I was reporting on

1326
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 6: that we.

1327
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: Don't Well, that's why we have to be careful, right

1328
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: and I understand what a team.

1329
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 6: I understand it's a gray area, and that's why I

1330
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 6: wanted to kind of put that out there. You know,

1331
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 6: that's that's not what we do. Like, we don't break

1332
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 6: news here, we don't report news here. So that wasn't

1333
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 6: what I was doing. But I obviously got carried away

1334
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 6: and used a word that I can't even say anymore

1335
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 6: because it's I remember ever again, I remember my dictionary.

1336
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 6: But I apologize to obviously to Fred and to you guys,

1337
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 6: and but most importantly I to girod in in Jacoby,

1338
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 6: most importantly, because that was obviously totally wrong of me

1339
01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 6: to do.

1340
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 5: Can I just throw it was? It was a tough weekend,

1341
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 5: it was, and we it's it's a reflection of all

1342
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 5: of us, even though like in this particular case it

1343
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,479
Speaker 5: didn't really have much to do with with me and Mike.

1344
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 5: We're still all part of one team here. Content I

1345
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 5: would just say number one, I'm sure that a lot

1346
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 5: of you listening were like I had Paul in that pool.

1347
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 5: I had Paul to say something right, and you know,

1348
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 5: and I have actually absolutely been in Evans shoes, you know,

1349
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 5: sort of you know, getting out over my skis a

1350
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 5: little bit and getting carried away. So it happens the

1351
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 5: other part. And just to sort of reiterate with Fred's

1352
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 5: talking about like taking the Maya helper and you and

1353
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 5: I talked about it Friday morning, so I know how

1354
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 5: how much you were bothered by what you did, and

1355
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 5: what we ended up backfiring. It wasn't just like well

1356
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 5: people had already seen it, but now what happens is

1357
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 5: just the line lives on, just the money line that

1358
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 5: Evan can't say anymore. If you listen to it, if

1359
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 5: you if you've got a chance to go back and

1360
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 5: listen to it, you'd hear the context. And I'm not explaining,

1361
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 5: I'm not excusing. We definitely we went too far, but

1362
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 5: like it's talking about sort of a frustration level in

1363
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 5: the locker room, and there's some context there that unfortunately

1364
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 5: gets lost. Our decision gets you know, it makes it

1365
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 5: get gets lost a little bit. But yeah, yeah we

1366
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 5: did it. We own it and we move on.

1367
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 3: And I was even thinking, oh, I'll put it back up,

1368
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: and it's like, no, no, don't do that.

1369
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 6: Friend.

1370
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 3: Now you're creating a third store, you know, like just

1371
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: just let it go, let it go. I'm my bad. Yeah,

1372
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: so my yah too. Yeah. So you live and learn.

1373
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like Evin said, our our job.

1374
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 3: I remember when Belichick first got here, I sat down

1375
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 3: with Brian Maury and you know, we kind of went

1376
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 3: over the ground rules because you know, back then we

1377
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 3: that you were in on.

1378
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 5: That, but that was before I was shunned.

1379
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we were doing the newspaper back then,

1380
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: and so we were doing a lot of writing. And

1381
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, the agreement we had with Belichick is we

1382
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: don't break news. We don't you know, disclose injuries. We

1383
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 3: don't take cheap shots. You know, we try not to

1384
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 3: do that. And I think we we did it up.

1385
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 5: We did a really good job of adhering to those rules.

1386
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 3: We screwed up, But when you look at the volumes

1387
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: of stuff that we produce, I think we've done a

1388
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: decent job at that, you know. And like anybody that

1389
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 3: watches our show, they know that we're as objective as anyone.

1390
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: You know, just listen to this show right here. We

1391
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: we try to be fair, though, and we try to

1392
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 3: not take cheap shots. You know. We try to not

1393
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 3: take guys who you know, can do things we only

1394
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: wish we could do and say that they suck and blow.

1395
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: You know.

1396
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 5: We have some freedom, you know, and that comes from

1397
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 5: from the crafts that want us to do it that way.

1398
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 5: They want us to cover the team. I just has

1399
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 5: no value if we're not and I keep track a

1400
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 5: little bit, I don't listen and watch what every other

1401
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 5: team does. But I see stuff, and I tell you,

1402
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 5: there's teams that would have taken the game that the

1403
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 5: Patriots played Sunday and they would have done a two

1404
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 5: hour radio show today on Marty Marpoo and man like

1405
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 5: that was really because I think he was impressive in

1406
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 5: that game, not necessarily his performance, but just the fact

1407
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 5: that he did everything that he was asked to do

1408
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 5: in that game, playing every snap. There's there's teams in

1409
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 5: the league they wouldn't even talk about the fact that

1410
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 5: they lost. They would just talk about this guy came

1411
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 5: off of injured reserve and in his first game, he's

1412
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 5: got the green dot. He's playing linebacker, he's playing safety.

1413
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 5: We haven't even mentioned that yet more over an hour

1414
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 5: in and we talked about that a lot in the

1415
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 5: post game show. No, I know, I know, but you're stifled,

1416
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 5: stifled by the constant negativity. They won't show no. But

1417
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, as an example, that's the way

1418
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 5: that they want us to do it. They want us

1419
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 5: to sort of cover the team. And Jonathan himself told

1420
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 5: me my first month here, if we lose a game

1421
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 5: and you don't tell people we lost, no one's ever

1422
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 5: going to listen to you, right, Like, you can't just

1423
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 5: pretend that they want to gain and they lost.

1424
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 3: You know, I've always it has no value if if

1425
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 3: we're not honest, then you know, what's the point of listening,

1426
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 3: you know. So we're trying to be honest, but we

1427
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 3: try to be fair and when we can, we try

1428
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 3: to accentuate the positive. I mean, I it's good for

1429
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: us for this team to be good. You know, winning

1430
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 3: is good for us. Gerard Mayo being a successful head

1431
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 3: coach is something that I really really want to happen to,

1432
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: you know.

1433
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 6: And uh so, you know, I think that's like, honestly

1434
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 6: where my frustration is coming from, because I want Girod

1435
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 6: to succeed, Like I want the team to be good

1436
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 6: more than anybody. And you know, I just let that

1437
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 6: kind of get to me a little bit that they

1438
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 6: are where they are right now. And obviously, I.

1439
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 8: It's funny you guys had the challenge of doing that

1440
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 8: after you know, when you started Paulo. The team was

1441
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 8: so good over that period, but it was still challenging,

1442
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 8: you know, like it was still hard for you guys,

1443
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 8: I'm sure to yeah, well, yeah, you're first two but.

1444
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 5: Then obviously it becomes a lot easier to avoid the

1445
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 5: pitfalls that we fell in this week when you go

1446
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 5: twenty plus years of boring twelve and four seasons according

1447
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 5: to you, I know, yeah, so it obviously was a

1448
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 5: lot easier to follow those rules.

1449
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 3: An now it's the four and well, I think when

1450
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 3: we had our meeting with him, it was two right, Yeah,

1451
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 3: it was early, so early had the early success, to

1452
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: be honest, and then the next year they didn't make

1453
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

1454
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 5: Right, And you know what I think was the I

1455
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 5: think that drew bledsoe trade was the impetus read yeah,

1456
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 5: because you know, we all recall we broke that. That

1457
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 5: was the last bit of news that we broke on

1458
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 5: pitch start.

1459
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 3: No, but in all fairness, we were allowed to break that.

1460
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 5: We didn't break any We didn't do it by yeah, no, no, no,

1461
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 5: But I'm saying I think that was kind of like

1462
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 5: you know, but I would not.

1463
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 3: Be for give another example where we screwed up, not

1464
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 3: not intentionally, but I think it grew. I think it

1465
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 3: was the Ted Washington uh either extension or no. We

1466
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 3: were signing him and his agent called us.

1467
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 5: That the Herald had a story and told us saying

1468
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 5: that that the Ted Washington re signing was all but done.

1469
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 5: The hell this was. Felger was actually the beat writer

1470
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 5: at the time, and we were not allowed to break news,

1471
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 5: but if it was out there, we were allowed to

1472
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 5: put it up, and we put it up based on

1473
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 5: you know.

1474
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 3: Harold Report talked to the agent.

1475
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 5: Right the Herald Report said that this was and then

1476
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden it wasn't a done

1477
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 5: deal and they thought that us, like the agent went

1478
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 5: to the team and said, your team sight is saying

1479
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 5: this is all done. It's that was, you know, and

1480
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 5: that was one of those deals like wait till it's

1481
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 5: done and then.

1482
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 3: Well, also we could have a reliable source. Our problem

1483
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 3: was using Felger as the source. Well you know it

1484
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 3: was Shefter. He wasn't around right now.

1485
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 6: Felger is my biggest fan, so we want to kill him.

1486
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, we've had those things. Question I wrote,

1487
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 5: I wrote something that Bill didn't like once and we

1488
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 5: had a very uncomfortable conversation in an elevator once. But

1489
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 5: I and I said this a million times since Bill

1490
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 5: was tough to deal with, like, you know, because he

1491
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 5: never made you really feel comfortable. But he was as

1492
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 5: professional with me every day after that as he was

1493
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 5: with anybody else that covered the media now that covered

1494
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 5: the team, You know, did I I felt like that day,

1495
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 5: I you know, I was out for him, like, yep,

1496
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 5: he's you know, it's like Fred's old fur. You're either

1497
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 5: fur or you're again. I was again. I was in

1498
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 5: the notes like I was out for him. But you'd

1499
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 5: never know that. He never like ignored my questions or

1500
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 5: didn't acknowledge me, you know, or any time after that.

1501
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 5: He was a tough guy to for everybody to cover,

1502
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 5: but he was remarkably consistent.

1503
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: I have Bill was plenty of emails from him when

1504
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: he thought I screwed up, and probably half the time

1505
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Speaker 2: Good morning to Rod. All right, May.

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Speaker 19: Just heard you on EI.

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Speaker 20: You were asked about the quarterback situation in recent weeks

1559
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 20: after a game. The next day when we talk to you,

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Speaker 20: you've reiterated that Jacoby was said as a starting quarterback.

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 20: Today you didn't go there, and I know you said

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Speaker 20: you haven't watched the film.

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Speaker 2: Is do you feel like.

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01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 21: I've watched the film. I just haven't watched like some

1565
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 21: of the other things. I watched the offense and the

1566
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 21: defensive film. For sure, I get the special team. So

1567
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 21: what I would say is, you know, I think I've

1568
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 21: been pretty consistent, and my messaging is that every single

1569
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 21: week we're all or I should say every single day,

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01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 21: we're all being evaluated, and it's no different.

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: Now that's kind of how I see Thank you.

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01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 19: I just remind you turning your cameras before asking your

1573
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 19: question if you can just helps them and so coach

1574
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 19: can see you as you asked, the question will go

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01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 19: mark Daniel's fall up at the quarter ring.

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Speaker 11: Edro, good morning. When you meet with your coaches today,

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01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 11: do you anticipate talking about the potential of starting Drake

1578
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 11: May and making a change of quarterback.

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Speaker 21: When I meet with the coach today, it's about you know,

1580
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 21: we're in a solution driven business and we aren't playing

1581
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 21: good football, and so we have to look at every

1582
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 21: single unit and every single player and figure out how

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01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 21: we use this roster to go out there and win games.

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01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 14: Coacoda Randall, followed by Mike Riesee Rod.

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Speaker 11: While understanding the struggles of the offense aren't on just

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01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 11: one person, is making a change at offensive play caller

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01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 11: during the season something you'd ever consider that's not under consideration.

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Speaker 7: Next question, Mike Priese Gud, how would you evaluate Jacoby's

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01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 7: performance yesterday?

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01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just wasn't good enough.

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01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 13: Yeah.

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01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 21: I thought we played well enough off sorry defensively on

1593
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 21: special teams to win the football game. And look as

1594
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 21: the quarterback and he understands this. You know, he touched

1595
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 21: the ball on every single play and we didn't win

1596
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 21: the game. Was four enough points to win the game?

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Speaker 21: And I think he would echo that same sentiment that

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 21: it wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 14: We'll got Doug kie faulbout Chris Ryan, and we'll keep

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Speaker 14: it with just one question and then we'll come back

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Speaker 14: to you. If you have a follow up question, just

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 14: raise your hand again, which I get to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Drad on the Jabrill Pepper situation.

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Speaker 20: Have you heard anything from the NFL about potentially putting

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01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 20: him on the Commissioner's exemptal list?

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01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 21: So you know, we informed the NFL and we're still

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01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 21: gathering information. I know the team put out a statement

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01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 21: earlier today, So I'm not sure you know how the

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01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 21: league and how we are going to handle that going forward,

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01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 21: but we should. We should find out some more information

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 21: over the next few days.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you.

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01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 19: Chris Fryan, followed by Sophie Rome.

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Speaker 13: Born in Draft football as well with you, I'm on

1615
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 13: the quarterback situation. You know, seeing what bo Nix is

1616
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 13: doing Williams and you know, obviously Jayden Daniels is doing.

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 13: Is that in any way make make you inclined to

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01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 13: kind of see what what Drake can do, and particularly

1619
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 13: that they struggled a little bit early on and then

1620
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 13: have a transitioned into being effective in the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I watched those guys on film.

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Speaker 21: I would say each each situation is unique, and so

1623
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 21: it is our situation, and like you, I think you

1624
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 21: hit it on the head. You know, those guys it

1625
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 21: was a little bumpy at first. Jade and Dane's aside.

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01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 21: But those guys are playing at a high level, and

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 21: so it's natural for fans and for the media to say, well,

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01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 21: we have you know, a good quarterback waiting in the

1629
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 21: wings as well. But at the same time, you know,

1630
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 21: our mentality is how do we develop him? How do

1631
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 21: we get the guys on the field around him to

1632
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 21: develop and and move forward from there?

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01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 19: Thank you, Thanks Sophie Willing.

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01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 22: Hi, Jerrod, I was just curious having Jabrill and Kyle out.

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01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 22: How do you feel like your safety group with Dell,

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01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 22: Jalen and Marte stepped up? Uh, given that they were

1637
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 22: out kind of those two major forces, it.

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01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,919
Speaker 2: Was very encouraging. And those guys grew up yesterday.

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01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 21: So like the way that they played, and hopefully here

1640
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 21: going forward they continue to develop at that at that pace,

1641
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 21: you know, there is no injury and you know what

1642
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 21: Pep's going through right now, We're gonna need guys to

1643
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 21: step up, and I thought they did that yesterday. It

1644
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 21: wasn't perfect, but I thought they played hard. I thought

1645
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 21: they uh did what we asked them to do, and

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 21: there's something to build off of.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 6: Thank so.

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01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 23: Andrew kill him, Giord, what did you guys find out

1650
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 23: about Jabril's situation.

1651
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 2: And was the injury report last week? The fact that

1652
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 2: he was on it?

1653
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 6: Uh?

1654
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 23: Would he have played if it weren't for this situation?

1655
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 23: Just to just yeah, I don't, I don't want to.

1656
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 23: I don't want to speculate or do anything like that.

1657
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 23: He was dealing with an injury throughout the week and

1658
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 23: so that's why he was on the injury report.

1659
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 11: Uh.

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01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 21: Like I said earlier, Look, the team put out a

1661
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 21: statement about it, and you know we're still gathering information.

1662
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: Where did you guys find out about it? He called

1663
01:17:58,880 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 2: me the morning.

1664
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 19: Though expression Hendrew County by Phil Perry.

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01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 24: Hey, good morning, Girod. I know you're gathering information. That information,

1666
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 24: I'm sure will dictate your ultimate decision. But just based

1667
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 24: on what you know now, would Dabroll be welcome in

1668
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 24: the building today and tomorrow?

1669
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: You know, based on well he's not. He's not in

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01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: the building today. You know, he has his appearance and

1671
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: things like that.

1672
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 21: But as we gather information, he can he can definitely

1673
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 21: be in the building. Like we don't know, we don't

1674
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 21: know enough to say he shouldn't be in the building.

1675
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you, Phil Perry, Mike, is Jabrill situation

1676
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 7: something you will address with the team or you have

1677
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,759
Speaker 7: addressed with the team already and what would your message

1678
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 7: be to them on that front.

1679
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 21: Yeah, I've already addressed it with the team. That messages

1680
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 21: is really for the team. And what I will say is,

1681
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 21: you know, all through training camp, all through you know,

1682
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 21: the season, we talk about you know, uh situations that

1683
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 21: happen around in the league.

1684
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: So we can learn from other people. This is uh.

1685
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 21: Look, as we gather information, I think the players need

1686
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 21: to know about it and so we can learn from

1687
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:03,879
Speaker 21: whatever happened.

1688
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 19: Colbert to come.

1689
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,440
Speaker 7: But I just had a couple of situational football questions.

1690
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: At the end of the second quarter.

1691
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 11: Were you happy with or I don't say were you happy?

1692
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 7: But was that like the same thing that we saw

1693
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 7: against the Seahawks in terms of the two throws and

1694
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 7: what were your thoughts on that?

1695
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 11: And then I'd love to ask you about the last

1696
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 11: play too.

1697
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 21: Yeah, those were the I mean, it was like a

1698
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 21: carbon copy of that game. What I would say is,

1699
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 21: you know, our execution throughout the season at the end

1700
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 21: of the half and the end of the game, they

1701
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 21: just have to be better. And that's exactly what you

1702
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 21: saw at the end of the game where we ran

1703
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 21: out of time once again. Uh, it wasn't the call.

1704
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 21: It was just that we weren't we didn't execute the.

1705
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 2: Playfall and and now great moments.

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01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 6: History and I lost.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, you do exactly predict it properly if if

1708
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 5: you're wrong, if you if you think they're gonna win

1709
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 5: by two touchdowns and then win by two touchdowns the

1710
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 5: whole game. Yeah, no, it kind of unfolded the way

1711
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 5: everybody thought it would. But if it was properly, and

1712
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 5: then you were wrong, it's not proper You know they're wrong.

1713
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 5: And this is why I don't wrong and the only

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01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 5: one that that counts exactly.

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01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 6: And this is why I don't gamble. One.

1716
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 5: This is exactly why I don't gamble, because you get

1717
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 5: it right and you can still lose a because the

1718
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 5: games that play all right, So did I get so

1719
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 5: I got it right? Well on Aaron, So I got

1720
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 5: it right? Then right, did you win or lose?

1721
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 6: I won, then you got it.

1722
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 11: But if you lost, got it wrong.

1723
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 5: But but but just as easily they could have gotten

1724
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 5: the yard and I wouldn't have covered.

1725
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 6: Aaron, what's up? That's why you don't gamble.

1726
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 5: That's why I do not Gamble's trying not to agree

1727
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 5: with Paul.

1728
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 6: This is the effort.

1729
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 4: This is got it wrong.

1730
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 6: You got it wrong, but I didn't get it wrong.

1731
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:51,879
Speaker 6: You were rubbish.

1732
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1733
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 3: All right back here and patrons. Filtered eight five five

1734
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,879
Speaker 3: passed five hundred is the ACE ticket hot line. This week,

1735
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 3: the Patriots face off against the Houston Texans, and you

1736
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Speaker 3: can catch all the action right from your living room.

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1742
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1743
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Speaker 3: much you can say when you dare to compare with

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Speaker 3: Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store of the New

1745
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: England Patriots.

1746
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 8: They make it easy, I'm sure they do.

1747
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: And you know what else is easy? Drink? Drink bud Light.

1748
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 3: It's easy to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light,

1749
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 3: the official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. I

1750
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 3: could use a bud light.

1751
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 8: I had a nice tall Boy bud light at holy

1752
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 8: Cross Hockey.

1753
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 3: Delightful. Now did you get announced when you watch into

1754
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 3: the arena they really were going to do it well

1755
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 3: sometimes look because I mean well travel Bill nineteen ninety nine.

1756
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 6: MAC champion Mike Dessault.

1757
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, uh, now, how the delightful time there at Uh?

1758
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 8: I don't know what's that aganis arena?

1759
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 5: That was beautiful.

1760
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 8: I didn't find the Baseball Hall of Fame though, told

1761
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 8: me it was around there somewhere.

1762
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 5: It was in the back, in the back, run the back,

1763
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 5: you know. From my mouth, I was like, where's my guy?

1764
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: What?

1765
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 8: I at least want to go see the baseball diamond

1766
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 8: where you dominated. And they didn't even get that.

1767
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 5: That's even further back.

1768
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 3: We were talking about the Baseball Hall of Fame of

1769
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 3: the week. Yeah, I said that they I think they

1770
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 3: moved it to a dorm room and Warren Towers.

1771
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 5: I told you it's a different exhibit for me there

1772
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 5: have I told my son, uh, was was at a

1773
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 5: fraternity event at b U and he.

1774
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 6: Was like, ah, this is great.

1775
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 15: You know.

1776
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 5: He just like love the campus and everything right in

1777
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 5: the city. And I said, hey, make sure you take

1778
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 5: your boys to the Baseball Hall of Fame. Recognize some greatness.

1779
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 5: So I told Fred. I sent the text. I go,

1780
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 5: I'd read this in my friend voice with a sniff.

1781
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 5: But then I had a text back and say, hey,

1782
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 5: make sure you don't really do that, because there's no

1783
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 5: building that actually exists.

1784
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 3: Noah from Toronto says the postgame show needs more levity

1785
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 3: and less negativity. This year. We all know the team

1786
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 3: is terrible. I'd rather laugh about it than cry or

1787
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: argue about it.

1788
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 5: That's why I thought, Noah from Toronto, I thought we

1789
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 5: took a good step to the the former. The levity

1790
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 5: part this week, I thought we had and I think

1791
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 5: it was because you were here.

1792
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 6: Fred.

1793
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,879
Speaker 5: You bring you are you know, you bring high comedy generally,

1794
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 5: you know, like when you insist that Christian Illis didn't

1795
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 5: interfere with that guy.

1796
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: I thought the ball was whizzing by. I thought it

1797
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 3: was well.

1798
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 6: Timed, it was high comedy.

1799
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 3: I don't know it was.

1800
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 6: It was bang bang bang, but it was ridiculously dumb

1801
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 6: and he was like eight yards.

1802
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't have to tackle. But I thought

1803
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 3: that the ball was already out of play.

1804
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 6: That one was more questionable than Polk being out of bounds,

1805
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 6: Like Polk was clear.

1806
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 5: I kind of felt, what about the only one that

1807
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 5: doesn't think Polk was out of bounds?

1808
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 3: Just Pole?

1809
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 6: I know he was, you know, two weeks in a row.

1810
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 5: He doesn't know the rules, but he's trying to What

1811
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 5: about Deleveret moving the ball?

1812
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 6: That was bs I honestly that I didn't see. I honestly,

1813
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 6: it's on the film. It's on the film, and it

1814
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 6: is it is quite ridiculous.

1815
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 8: Kicks the ball up and you know, yeah, turns it

1816
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 8: a little bit.

1817
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 5: That I think those things are stupid. I agree with you.

1818
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 5: I think that happens on a lot of plays. I

1819
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 5: didn't see this one. The passing eperience was past.

1820
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 8: I just I just watched him like as it like

1821
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 8: dawned on him, because I think he had no idea.

1822
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 8: And then you know, and then Jacobe started doing palms up,

1823
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 8: and then he went to like palms up, and you

1824
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 8: watch it all kind of unfold, like, what who are

1825
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 8: you calling?

1826
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 3: That one was tick tack Dylan in North Carolina on

1827
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 3: the TVX utline, What's up, Dylan? Hey, how a y'all

1828
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 3: doing good.

1829
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 25: My biggest thing is everyone. I feel like a lot

1830
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 25: of Patriots fans think that our defense is, you know,

1831
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 25: going to keep us in every single game, and in reality,

1832
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 25: I think we have two good guys in Gonzalo or

1833
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 25: Gonzales and far more other than that. I mean, I

1834
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 25: think you've got a lot of decent guys, but I

1835
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 25: don't think that it's worth saying like they're going to

1836
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 25: keep us in every single game. I mean, and you

1837
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 25: saw that last last week. You've seen that against great

1838
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 25: quarterbacks over the last three years. I mean, it's not

1839
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 25: like in the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen era. And I

1840
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 25: just think we need to pump the brakes on our

1841
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 25: defense and how good the Patriots really are, because reality,

1842
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 25: we're not good at all, Like really nothing offense, defense,

1843
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 25: special teams. It all needs major work.

1844
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 26: And I'll think it up the air.

1845
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 3: Guys say okay, thanks.

1846
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,759
Speaker 8: I think Evan wrote wrote it in his after further review,

1847
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 8: and I agree. It's like they've really missed you one

1848
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 8: Bentley right now. They just they don't have guys in

1849
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 8: the middle of the field that you know, can make

1850
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,839
Speaker 8: plays and can get through the trash and can defeat blocks,

1851
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 8: and a lot of times what you're seeing is that

1852
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 8: those inside linebackers are just getting swallowed up and they

1853
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 8: cannot get off, and it's it's a really hard way

1854
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 8: to live. And I mean, I you know, I do

1855
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 8: kind of question a little bit the personnel overall behind

1856
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 8: Bentley because and I don't know, I mean, maybe I'm

1857
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 8: being too critical because it just seems like a very

1858
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 8: specific kind of job. But inside, I mean, I I

1859
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 8: was okay with Mapu. I mean, I don't think he

1860
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 8: was great. I do think that he's got a little

1861
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 8: bit of the smarts and anticipation and a little wiggle

1862
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 8: to get around guys inside and to be able to

1863
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 8: make plays. It's not there yet for him. But you know,

1864
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 8: Ray Coui McMillan, it was it was a struggle for him.

1865
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think they definitely miss Bentley. I

1866
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 5: think he's a really valuable player for them, and I

1867
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 5: think his experience makes him better probably than his talent.

1868
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 5: And I would just say, like I think the caller Dylan,

1869
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 5: he's there is a perception that this defense is like

1870
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 5: elite and they're going to keep the team in every game,

1871
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 5: and it's not that if that's what you're thinking, then

1872
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 5: they're not that good. They're not that bad either. And

1873
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 5: I've been kind of critical of the defense at times

1874
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 5: over the years. I don't like listening we talked about,

1875
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 5: like some of the things that Mayo said. I don't

1876
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 5: like the coach saying like we played defense good enough,

1877
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 5: defense and special teams were good enough to win this

1878
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 5: game when there were litany mistakes on both of those

1879
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 5: units on Sunday. You know, so this is not that

1880
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 5: wasn't just an offensive loss. That was a team loss.

1881
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 5: The defense. You know, you're playing against the team that,

1882
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 5: believe it or not, scores less than you do without

1883
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 5: its quarterback. Yep, okay, they had scored less points than

1884
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 5: you allowed them to score Sunday in their previous three games.

1885
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 5: And you had the lead in the fourth quarter and

1886
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 5: let them go fifteen plays eighty yards almost entirely on

1887
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 5: the ground because they don't have a quarterback. You know,

1888
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 5: it would be one thing if they had like Josh

1889
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 5: Allen out there and they they tricked you, you know,

1890
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 5: you were playing too deep and they would daring you

1891
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 5: to run because yeah, Josh Allen, he's gonna rip you

1892
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 5: a pot if you play anything different. This is Tyler

1893
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 5: Huntley who missed a lot of throws in that game.

1894
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't think the defense was terrible the

1895
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 5: other day, but they faded. How many three and ounce

1896
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 5: did the Patriots have offensively? How many did Miami have? One? Yeah,

1897
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 5: and I'll even say two, except for you gave him

1898
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 5: an extra possession by having too many men on the

1899
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 5: field on the three and ol punt that you forced.

1900
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 5: Like the Dolphins drove the ball virtually every drive they had.

1901
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 5: They should have had more points if not for the

1902
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 5: Dolphins themselves with just dumping, like snapping the ball when

1903
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 5: no one's looking to get out to lose a field goal,

1904
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 5: having a rolling a ball back on another field goal,

1905
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 5: which by the way, came after they gated a field

1906
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 5: goal with a fall start penalty. Like for all the

1907
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 5: things that we said about the Patriots, Miami did all

1908
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 5: the same stupid stuff. I mean, they just were the

1909
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 5: last one standing at the end. They were two terrible teams.

1910
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 3: Like forget about Tom Brady, but can you imagine a

1911
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 3: Patriots team in the past playing in a game where

1912
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 3: the other team made that many mistakes? I mean, it

1913
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 3: would have been over it. So I just hear a lot.

1914
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 5: A lot of the Bill people came out.

1915
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 6: I heard anything.

1916
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 3: The Patriots made these mistakes the last four years.

1917
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 5: A lot of people will tell you, like, you know,

1918
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 5: if Bill was coaching this team, they'd be three and two.

1919
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 3: That might be true. It could be.

1920
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 5: I don't know how much better I'd feel today. Honestly,

1921
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 5: I like winning more than losing news flash. But like

1922
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 5: they could have won the game the other day if

1923
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 5: if Bersett throws a little bit lower and Polk is

1924
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 5: able to get both feet in bounds, Like, we still

1925
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 5: have the same issues.

1926
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 3: Same issues. And let's face it, over the last few years,

1927
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 3: special teams has been not what we you know, are

1928
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 3: used to. Yeah, penalties will have been a problem over

1929
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 3: the you know, turnover, some mistakes, turnoversational places is a continuation.

1930
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 5: So special teams again.

1931
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 10: So I.

1932
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 5: In that game Special Team Chad, they block a punt,

1933
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 5: big play, They missed a thirty three yard field goal.

1934
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 5: They have the one bad punt. I believe that Bryce

1935
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 5: Baringer has like two bad punts all year. They both

1936
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:23,480
Speaker 5: came in those situations.

1937
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 3: By the way, his bad punt is forty one yards, which.

1938
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 5: Is bad for him for anyone.

1939
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that's bad.

1940
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 5: That's a bad punt and it gets returned twelve yards,

1941
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 5: so it's even worse. So that was a bad punt,

1942
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 5: bad situational punt there. Antonio Gibson taking the ball out

1943
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 5: of the end zone Castius some yardage at the end

1944
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 5: on a kickoff he and I don't know if he

1945
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 5: thought because it landed in the landing zone he had.

1946
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 6: To return it.

1947
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 5: I think he could have taken the touch back. And

1948
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 5: Evan you says that ye twenty five, so it's like

1949
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 5: six yards they lost there.

1950
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 6: I think he got.

1951
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 5: Tackled at the nineteen. So special teams weren't great either,

1952
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 5: you know. So I don't know why you, as a

1953
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 5: coach go out and say, you know, defensive special teams,

1954
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 5: you know we did enough to win.

1955
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think defensively, And I get that some

1956
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 6: people are gonna hear it as making excuses. But at

1957
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 6: this point in this game on Sunday, you know, you're

1958
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 6: they don't have bar Moore, you know, they don't have Bentley.

1959
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 6: They're also down there starting safeties, who are two impact

1960
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,839
Speaker 6: players on that on the defense, so they're.

1961
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 3: Down a lot of guys.

1962
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, you walk at some of these

1963
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 6: run plays, like they're they're trying to stop the run

1964
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 6: out of too high. They don't have Bentley in the

1965
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 6: middle of the defense to be able to get off

1966
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 6: blocks and make things happen. They don't have Dugger and

1967
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 6: Pepper's filling from you know, eight ten yards off the ball,

1968
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 6: and those two guys come, you know, flying down and

1969
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 6: car crashes all over the place.

1970
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 5: Most of the time, I agree with all that. I'm

1971
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 5: just saying I'm not gonna call it anything different than

1972
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 5: it was. Yeah, all of those things are true. The

1973
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 5: other team lost their starting running back in the first quarter.

1974
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that's it's totally fair. I just I think defensively,

1975
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 6: where where I critique them schematically is just you have

1976
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 6: a outstanding corner in Christian Gonzales.

1977
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 5: Like, this guy is a star, He's he is the

1978
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 5: real the best player you know for the Patriots through

1979
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 5: five games. I don't really think this is a close section.

1980
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, he is the real deal. And if I was

1981
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 6: the Patriots, and it's just my opinion, I would lean

1982
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 6: as far into that as you possibly can extend him now,

1983
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 6: and I would.

1984
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 5: Say do like, you know how like I'm sort of

1985
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 5: not as on board with the Christian Gonzalez as everybody else.

1986
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 5: That's why what Evan's talking about, lean More into that

1987
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 5: if you're the guy, if you're the man, just let

1988
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 5: just do the Tai law thing and have ten guys

1989
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 5: over there. I got this guy right.

1990
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 6: They don't do that. No, they play too much zone.

1991
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 6: They're still playing too much zone. And I just if

1992
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 6: I if I was them. You know, remember in eighteen

1993
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 6: and nineteen when Gilmore was really at the peak of

1994
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 6: his powers, it was cover zero. It was Manton across

1995
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 6: the board all the time, single high safety up top

1996
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 6: five man rush. Like you have a guy that can

1997
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 6: cover Tyreek Hill for the entire game.

1998
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 5: Cooks and the Super Bowl pick and not Cooks and

1999
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 5: not give.

2000
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 6: Up an explosive play, one of the most explosive guy

2001
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 6: in the league, and he's stride for stride with him

2002
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 6: the entire game. And yet you're gonna drop out into

2003
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 6: Cover two, Like, I don't understand what the point of

2004
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 6: that is, Like, especially with that playing quarter right, Like,

2005
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 6: get get up in the receivers faces, disrupt the timing

2006
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 6: on the outside with some physical coverage, and blitz the

2007
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 6: crap out of the quarterback because you're not getting home

2008
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 6: with four because you don't have a bar More, you

2009
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 6: don't have a Jude On like, you don't have the

2010
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 6: guys to get home with four when they rush four guys.

2011
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 6: They're thirty first in the league in pressure rate, second

2012
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 6: to last. So if you're you have corners in Gonzales

2013
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 6: and I would also put the Joneses in this category

2014
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 6: two who can cover man to man? Those guys can cover,

2015
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 6: So let them go and go, you know, give the

2016
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 6: resources to the pass rush and try to get after

2017
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 6: the quarterback a little bit. I just don't think they

2018
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 6: do that enough. And the other example I'll just give

2019
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 6: quickly right now, in Denver, Patrick Curtan is like the

2020
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,440
Speaker 6: best defensive player in the league. I mean, he's outstanding.

2021
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 6: Denver right now is running man to man coverage forty

2022
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 6: five percent of the time. It's the highest rate in

2023
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 6: the league. They're running cover zero at almost ten percent

2024
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 6: of their passing place because they know that Cirtan is

2025
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 6: just gonna take his man out. So even if we

2026
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 6: face a Tyree kill, a Garrett Wilson, whoever it is,

2027
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 6: we don't have to worry about him getting beat man

2028
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 6: to man. I'm not trying to say that Gonzalez is

2029
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 6: on that level yet, but for this team he might

2030
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 6: have to be on that level if they want to

2031
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 6: get the defense back in order.

2032
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 8: Love it great, n I'm fired up. You get them

2033
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 8: fired up.

2034
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 5: That's basically my feeling is for five minutes. It's not

2035
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 5: like I keep getting chirped every time someone says Gonzales

2036
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 5: had a really good game, which I still, by the way,

2037
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 5: want to point out that your bible, you people your bible,

2038
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 5: say that he's not having a good year. But whatever,

2039
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 5: I watched games and I just used the dinosaur eye test.

2040
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 5: I think he's pretty good. I think he's played well.

2041
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 5: I don't understand why he doesn't cover very average graded

2042
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 5: in PFF, but he does over the guy, but it's

2043
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 5: not always man to man like he So he covered

2044
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 5: hill twenty one times in this game, but only five

2045
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 5: of them were pure man to man and.

2046
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 6: It's like five and all five of them he's literally

2047
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 6: in his hip pocket like they ran it.

2048
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 5: I thought it was more than that. Again, is the dinosaurs,

2049
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 5: Well some of it.

2050
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 6: Some of it is like match zone, where like if

2051
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 6: he runs a vertical it converts to man to man.

2052
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 6: So those are like the lines, but they ran Hill

2053
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 6: on like one of those cheap motions where he comes

2054
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 6: in motion and rolls into the route and Gonzo has

2055
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 6: him in man to man and Hill takes off and

2056
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 6: he literally looks like he is not even running that hard,

2057
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 6: and he keeps up with the fastest receiver in the league,

2058
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 6: and it's like, why wouldn't you just let him do

2059
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 6: that the entire game?

2060
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 5: I so this week could be interesting with that too,

2061
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 5: because Nico Collins is going to be out. Diggs is

2062
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 5: a guy that's given them fits.

2063
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know in the.

2064
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 5: Past, do you just lock him up with with Gonzales

2065
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 5: on digs and worried about Tank Dell with with the

2066
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 5: smaller guys, with Marcus Jones.

2067
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 8: Lock him on, frustrate him, he'll turn to start tanking him.

2068
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 5: He's not anywhere close to what he was last year

2069
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 5: coming off but Ton acl.

2070
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, Strap missed him a couple of times in this

2071
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 6: last game, I thought, But it's it just it screams

2072
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 6: to me twenty nineteen Patriots, like put everybody on the

2073
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage, Glegg Gonzo, take his guy one on

2074
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 6: one and just come after the quarterbacks, like you're not

2075
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 6: sitting in these zone you can't protect is not working.

2076
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 5: Houston has had a hard time protecting Shroud, been sacked

2077
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 5: fourteen times.

2078
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get back to the TPX outline.

2079
01:36:58,320 --> 01:36:59,440
Speaker 3: Craig's in California.

2080
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 4: Hey, Craig, I know, Craig, crag I'm supposed to wait

2081
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 4: for us there, Craig, how about I gotta let you go.

2082
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 3: Speaking of Houston, Let's go to Colleen in Houston. What's up, Colleen?

2083
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 27: Hey, guys, I hate to bring the mood down, but

2084
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 27: I gotta to talk about the Jabriel Pepper situation. I'm

2085
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 27: really disappointed by the team's non reaction basically, I know,

2086
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 27: with like the Jack Jones thing and with the Kishambouti thing.

2087
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 27: You know, wait for all the evidence and stuff. But

2088
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 27: this is the same team that refused to uh draft

2089
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 27: Joe Mixon, the same team that released Antonio Brown based

2090
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 27: on my text message. And this woman had bruises and

2091
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 27: scrapes all over her body and he was arrested for it,

2092
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 27: and we need more evidence.

2093
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 3: I just I didn't hear about the bruises and scrapes. Yeah,

2094
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 3: that was repet.

2095
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 5: He alleges that he has video. His lawyer alleges that

2096
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 5: he has video evidence that that's not how it happened.

2097
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 5: She fell down the stead, Now, I know that's the

2098
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 5: that's the cliche of domestic abuse while I fell. I

2099
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 5: you know, I understand where Colleen's coming from totally. You know,

2100
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 5: we'll see, you know, I don't know what's going to happen,

2101
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 5: But that was I'm not gonna lie. That was my

2102
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 5: initial response yesterday, is like, why he's still on the team,

2103
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 5: Like domestic to me, Yeah, that's the that's one of

2104
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 5: the things that you can't come back from. Yeah, Like,

2105
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 5: you know, I I agree with Colleen. I was a

2106
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 5: little surprised that there was no action. Yeah, but I

2107
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 5: don't know all the information either.

2108
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 27: There's video evidence, why not release it? That was also

2109
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 27: I just think that's muddying the water.

2110
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 5: That also came to my mind, Colleen, because if you, okay,

2111
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 5: so you didn't show this to the police, you have

2112
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 5: video evidence, and you didn't show this, you might have

2113
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 5: been able to avoid all of this.

2114
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 27: Right you know, Yeah, no, exactly. So thanks, Paul, I

2115
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,879
Speaker 27: appreciate your sport, and yeah, let's hope.

2116
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 5: They do the right thing, all right, Thanks Colleen, And

2117
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,839
Speaker 5: I just want to reiterate I don't have the information,

2118
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 5: So like if it comes out in like a couple

2119
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 5: of weeks that this is all made up by the woman,

2120
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 5: and people go, yeah, Paul I wanted to cut him. No,

2121
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 5: I don't have the information. My initial reaction was exactly

2122
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 5: what Colleen's initial reaction is though, Like, domestic abuse is

2123
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 5: different to me. You can't lay your hands on it's

2124
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 5: not you know, speeding, Yeah, it's it's different.

2125
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:39,839
Speaker 8: Even bringing guns to the airport.

2126
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 5: I would have cut him too. I was very consistent

2127
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 5: with that. Violence to me is a different animal.

2128
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 8: I just say overall, I mean, it's just so disappointing

2129
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 8: what's happened to the captains, what's happened to a lot

2130
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 8: of the players that they sign to long term extensions

2131
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 8: have now gone onto IR or have been And you know,

2132
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 8: this is its own situation, but just from a team

2133
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 8: building standpoint, so much of what they invested in right

2134
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 8: now is not what it's going to be rolling out

2135
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 8: on the field here.

2136
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 3: And so much of what's happened I think gives Mayo

2137
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 3: the excuse to like all of a sudden turn into

2138
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 3: a hard ass right now. You know, Like I know

2139
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 3: he wants to be collaborative and supportive and you know,

2140
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 3: it's the new wage athlete. But like he's he's got

2141
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 3: an excuse right now to like clamp down, you know.

2142
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 8: So he's got to do something. I mean, it's you know,

2143
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 8: and I mean I don't think that necessarily this incident

2144
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 8: with Gabriel Peppers is a reflection of the locker room

2145
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 8: or those you know, Like this seems to me like

2146
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 8: Gabril Peppers is maybe a bad guy and that's just

2147
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 8: you know, what happened. But at the same time, there's

2148
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 8: no discipline on the field, right there's self inflicted wounds.

2149
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 8: I mean, those are the bigger concerns.

2150
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 9: To me.

2151
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 8: This is a little bit of its own headache and nightmare.

2152
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 8: But just echo what Paul said. I mean, if if

2153
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 8: it turns out to be true, that he's got to

2154
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 8: be gone and I and I'm a fan of the

2155
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 8: player on the field, you know, and that's and.

2156
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 5: I just wonder to you know, until they find out

2157
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 5: if it's true, Like I'm okeny, I'm curious to see

2158
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 5: what he's what he's his role is this week? Is

2159
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 5: he here? Is he going to be in the building

2160
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 5: tomorrow when they have practice or are they going to

2161
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 5: say you know what, we will stand by you. We'll

2162
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 5: wait to see what the evidence shows, but you're not

2163
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 5: playing until we find out. Like to me, airing on

2164
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 5: that side and being wrong is better than airing on

2165
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 5: the other side and being wrong.

2166
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 2: Yep.

2167
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 5: And that's how I would wagh if I were the organization.

2168
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 8: Which they might even get killed, just letting them in

2169
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 8: the building, like even just let them be in the lock.

2170
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 5: I would say, you know what, you're not off the team,

2171
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 5: but you stay home. You're going to be an act of.

2172
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 8: This, and that way is it. The NFL could take

2173
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 8: a little bit of the pressure off them by putting

2174
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 8: commissioners let me exemplist and saying, let's just take this

2175
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 8: out of the team's hands.

2176
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 3: And until this, you know, Ray Rice is the sort

2177
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 3: of example that everyone uses. When that first happened, the

2178
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 3: Ravens stood behind him. It wasn't until that elevator video

2179
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 3: came out that the raven said, okay, we've got.

2180
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 5: To well but just you know, and also the league suspended.

2181
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 3: Him when the elevator thing came out.

2182
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 5: Before the elevator came out, then they looked horrible because

2183
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 5: it was learned that they saw the video and that

2184
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 5: was I think it was like a two game suspension

2185
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 5: of something.

2186
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 3: Laughable and then they made it six or something, and

2187
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 3: then you.

2188
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 5: Know, obviously to your point, Baltimore said, we can't have

2189
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 5: that guy on it right now that everybody knows, right,

2190
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 5: But that's but I hope that's not the case. And

2191
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 5: it's a different to I think. I don't know, Like

2192
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 5: I'm willing to you can't, you can't. I'm willing to

2193
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 5: have due process.

2194
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 3: I'd rather I would rather be winless this year, and

2195
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 3: like I said, I would rather.

2196
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 5: Be wrong and find out that he was innocent after

2197
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 5: the fact and have dealt with something that he's been

2198
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 5: accused of strongly then the other way around, right, Like, well,

2199
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna let it play out. He can

2200
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 5: play in these three games and all of a sudden

2201
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 5: you find out he was absolutely guilty.

2202
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 8: But that would make me sick, right, No, I'm all

2203
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,440
Speaker 8: set with seeing him until unless.

2204
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 5: That's coming from Mike, right, I mean, biggest guy.

2205
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 3: And now that said, I hope I hope the evidence

2206
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 3: does prove him innocent.

2207
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,799
Speaker 5: For more reasons, yeah, like for a lot more football.

2208
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 5: I hope he didn't do this, right because I hope

2209
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 5: this this woman did not you know, suffer domestic abuse.

2210
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 3: That's what I hope.

2211
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,759
Speaker 6: It's just it. It's tough to see to Mike's point

2212
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 6: that so many of the guys that they were counting

2213
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 6: on coming into this season all for different reasons. But

2214
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 6: you know, Barmore, they signed him to this big extension.

2215
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 6: He's a great player, Blood.

2216
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:44,560
Speaker 5: Clottsmore Bentley, andrews now Peppers.

2217
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 6: And Pepper's you know, checks the core for for all

2218
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 6: intensive purposes, quits on the team and goes home, you know,

2219
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:53,719
Speaker 6: like he's your your left tackle signing in the off season.

2220
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 8: Really good point, Michael inconsistent. Yeah at best.

2221
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ramandra Stevenson fumbles and four straight games out of

2222
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 6: the gate.

2223
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 8: Like, it's just so many of the I mean, this

2224
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 8: is it's crazy to go right down through it.

2225
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 5: So it's bad enough that you sort of went into.

2226
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 3: Can we talk about Christian Gonzales, You went.

2227
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 5: Into the season sort of knowing, you know, I get

2228
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 5: like Girod said, we're going to take some lumps. I

2229
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 5: think that's the phrase that he used a lot more.

2230
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 5: But these are some of the things you thought were

2231
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 5: going to be on the plus side, and you guys

2232
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 5: just rattled up a laundry list of things that haven't yep.

2233
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:31,520
Speaker 6: Now because just to be a little bit positive, Remandred,

2234
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,759
Speaker 6: I thought, whether we want to call it a benching

2235
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 6: or what. I wouldn't call it necessarily a benching, but

2236
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 6: I mean, he played great in the game, didn't fumble,

2237
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 6: so there's that. I thought he handles it during the

2238
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 6: week and after the game perfectly. So that was a

2239
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 6: really good example by him. And you know, just that

2240
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,839
Speaker 6: that's what you're looking for, is accountability and then obviously

2241
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 6: getting better and not being an error repeater.

2242
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 8: And just Antonio Gibson I think has been pretty good

2243
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 8: and it's been a good signing. And you know it's

2244
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 8: another piece that that you know, did work out. And

2245
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna take this moment to glow about Mappoo

2246
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 8: a little bit. And I think, you know Paul's right

2247
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 8: about you know, did he play all that great? Did

2248
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 8: he impact the game all that much? I think was

2249
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 8: a six tackle or something like that? I mean not really,

2250
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 8: but like I was just so impressed for a guy

2251
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 8: that we spent you know, last year. I think he

2252
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 8: played maybe one hundred defensive snaps the whole the whole year,

2253
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 8: Is that right? One hundred defensive snaps.

2254
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 5: He played like seventy plays the other day, and you've

2255
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 5: only played a hundred half.

2256
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 6: It might have been close.

2257
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 8: Sorry I might. I might closer to two hundred. Sorry,

2258
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 8: I think it's two hundred defensive steps total. So I

2259
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 8: wrote he played basically half the snaps in one game.

2260
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 8: So when we kind of joked this summer, we got

2261
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 8: hurt the first day at training camp, and day two

2262
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 8: he's out there watching. He'd trudge out, he'd sit there,

2263
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 8: you know, he'd stand behind the defense, and we're like,

2264
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 8: who's this guy? I think he is calling the defense

2265
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 8: back there, making you know, making hands signals to himself

2266
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 8: and stuff. And even you know, last week, it was like,

2267
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 8: are you gonna play this week? And he'said, I hope,

2268
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 8: So I hope, So I want to play. And then

2269
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 8: Jirod came on the radio before the game was like,

2270
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:58,600
Speaker 8: I hope he can go the whole game. So I

2271
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 8: just think it's a it's a really good sign that

2272
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 8: a kid who look, I don't need him to be

2273
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 8: perfect in his first game of the season, but that

2274
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 8: they trust him that much to call the defense to

2275
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 8: play multiple roles with. Like I said, one hundred times.

2276
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 8: Three practices, like three real practices, which and let's be honest,

2277
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 8: these practices aren't anything like the training camp run a

2278
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 8: football where you're getting physicality and you know, you're kind

2279
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 8: of going through the motions at least two of the

2280
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 8: three days out there. So I just think it's a

2281
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 8: good sign. Like I said before, they made a guy

2282
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 8: like that, who and especially with Peppers now in question

2283
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 8: and possibly no no longer dressing for the Patriots again,

2284
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 8: it's a it's it's a that's a really positive piece

2285
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 8: to take out think.

2286
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 5: It might put them on the good list on Sunday.

2287
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 5: We both go absolutely no idea how.

2288
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 6: Well we played, But he's on the good one.

2289
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 8: I mean, he's got some wiggle though to him, Like

2290
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 8: like I went back and when I was watching, when

2291
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 8: I was grinding the film yesterday, like I really wanted

2292
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 8: to you know, am I am? I just was he

2293
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 8: just out there? I didn't want to come out here,

2294
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 8: you know, doing the whole band. But he's he's always

2295
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 8: had kind of a quick ability to change direction, recognize

2296
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 8: something and go the other way. And I just and

2297
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 8: it translates, it's like he didn't look out of place

2298
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 8: at linebacker. He had good size, and you know, I

2299
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 8: think for some of the people who've been banging that

2300
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 8: drum about getting a mobile, second level guy like you know,

2301
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 8: and maybe he's not a full time week side linebacker

2302
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 8: like some people might want, but but maybe he's going

2303
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 8: to play an even bigger role because he's you know,

2304
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 8: gonna be calling the defense. He's going to be you know,

2305
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 8: I just think he's going to be a key piece

2306
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,560
Speaker 8: going forward. They got to keep him healthy in the

2307
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 8: lineup and then you know, that might be a real

2308
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 8: piece to build off of.

2309
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 2: Goal.

2310
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was one play in the red side. I

2311
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 6: think it was the play which a finally gets hunting

2312
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,680
Speaker 6: down on a sack. He covered three different reads I

2313
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 6: know exactly what he covered, three different reads he recognized open.

2314
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 6: He started on the left hand side in like a

2315
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 6: bracket I think it's like a cover seven quarters And

2316
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 6: he starts in the bracket and he goes in the

2317
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 6: middle of the field. Then he gets on the post

2318
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 6: to take away Tyreek Hill over the top, all on

2319
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 6: the same play and I was like, that's a guy

2320
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 6: that mentally is seeing the game, you know.

2321
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 12: Now.

2322
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 6: The one thing I would just say that for improvement

2323
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 6: is just play action. You know, there's a couple of

2324
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 6: times where play action plays. He he came hard charging

2325
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 6: at the line of scrimmage, playing to run and they

2326
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 6: threw it right by fake. Yeah, Johnny Smith beat him

2327
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 6: on a crosser off play action for seventeen yards. He

2328
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 6: was getting pulled out of those passing lanes a little

2329
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 6: bit too much. But that's all processing and that can

2330
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 6: improve over time and things like that. And they have

2331
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 6: a really tough time right now covering the middle of

2332
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 6: the field. So if you can add some range and

2333
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 6: athleticism and cover talent to that area of the field,

2334
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 6: I'm all for it. And maybe Taki Taki comes back

2335
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 6: to and that's another guy that can cover and can

2336
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 6: move a little bit, and they can get some of

2337
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 6: these plays that they're giving up in the middle of

2338
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 6: the field taken care of.

2339
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 8: I just say, you hear so much them talk about always,

2340
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:40,720
Speaker 8: you know, film junkie loves it and get like you know,

2341
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 8: and you know sometimes that but with him, I kind

2342
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 8: of believe it now, like to be able to do that,

2343
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 8: Like they clearly trust him on a different level than

2344
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 8: they might trust other guys.

2345
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cole's and Saint Louis Hey, Cole Cole, Yes, Hey, how's.

2346
01:48:58,280 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 12: It going on?

2347
01:48:58,880 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 8: Hey Cole?

2348
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 26: So my two cents and the whole Drake May situation is,

2349
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 26: I just say, a loss of online. How we are

2350
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 26: ruined Drake May, how he ruined mac Jones. And last

2351
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 26: time I checked, Drake May was got the third overall.

2352
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 26: Mac Jon's got the teams Nobody when we drafted mac Jones.

2353
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 26: Did we expect mac Jones to get top five quarterbacks

2354
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 26: in the league. So if we're worried about ruining him,

2355
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 26: then we messed up drafting third overall.

2356
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 15: Begin with.

2357
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2358
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 8: I mean, I just think you played Drake. You played

2359
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 8: mac Jones like. You didn't ruin mac Jones by playing like.

2360
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 3: In all fairness, though, when they drafted mac Jones, he

2361
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 3: was supposed to be the most NFL ready quarterback in

2362
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 3: the draft.

2363
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 5: Right. But I think Mike's point is, I don't really

2364
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 5: think that they ruined mac Jones. I know that's the

2365
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 5: common narrative that they ruined him. I don't think that

2366
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 5: they they did him any favors and year two and

2367
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 5: year three, but I think if mac Jones was the

2368
01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 5: real deal.

2369
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 3: The ruined to stay, that's for su But I'm just.

2370
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 5: Saying, if he was the real deal, you'd still be

2371
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:04,639
Speaker 5: seeing him play.

2372
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 8: I'd say, if there aren't real strides taking next offseason

2373
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:11,799
Speaker 8: to ensure ensure that the tackle position and the offensive

2374
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 8: line in general has a good starting place, and that

2375
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 8: there's a little bit more speed at the wide receiver position,

2376
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,560
Speaker 8: like you know, then we can talk about because I

2377
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 8: think those are the things that didn't help mac Jownes.

2378
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 8: I don't want to say they ruined him, but they

2379
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 8: didn't give him enough of a chance to succeed because

2380
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 8: they didn't take care of those pieces.

2381
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 5: Maybe we won't bring Brian Flores in to be the

2382
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:30,679
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, right.

2383
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 8: He can be the defensive probably the best talk about

2384
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 8: Cover zero Matt and des moines.

2385
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 28: What's up, Matt, Hey, I just had a question as

2386
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 28: far as, uh, when we're gonna start Drake May. So,

2387
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 28: I know you guys previously said that it should be

2388
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 28: pretty obvious when we're going to be starting Drake May.

2389
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 28: But when you guys think the announcement will happen during

2390
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 28: the week, well, if if.

2391
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 5: They're gonna play him, I think yeah, I think that yeah,

2392
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 5: Mayor will tell us if they're going to play him.

2393
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 5: I think London. I think that London. This is what

2394
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 5: I said on on on Sunday. I just think it

2395
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 5: makes some sense Fred's looking for.

2396
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 3: I think, I know, I think this week's better than

2397
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,839
Speaker 3: London because London, if you're talking about getting him prepared

2398
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 3: for the game, London is a disruptive week. You're gonna

2399
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 3: be leaving on a Thursday late afternoon, you're gonna be

2400
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 3: flying on a red eye to London, and you're gonna

2401
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 3: go right to practice when you get to London. This

2402
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 3: is a better week to start, just from a preparation standpoint.

2403
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2404
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:38,560
Speaker 6: I've heard London too, and I was telling you know,

2405
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 6: because not that we have to play in the game,

2406
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 6: but we do the travel aspect of it, and it's

2407
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,600
Speaker 6: it's quite disruptive of your whole routine and all this

2408
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 6: kind of stuff to go throw him into a European

2409
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 6: game like that, where it's a weird week. He's traveling

2410
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 6: midweek and not on a Saturday, and then you know

2411
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 6: he's jet lagged and like all this stuff. It's it's

2412
01:51:58,800 --> 01:51:59,919
Speaker 6: just an odd situation.

2413
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 8: He's never been out of North Carolina before this year.

2414
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I also think you even have a passport

2415
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 6: I hope so rank. I also think that, you know, Sunday,

2416
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 6: I would play him Sunday against the Texans. But it's

2417
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 6: like the number one defense in the league right now.

2418
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 6: Their pass rush is number one in the league, and

2419
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 6: pressure a you know, so like five yeah, Will Anderson

2420
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 6: and Daniel Hunter coming off the edges at him, you know,

2421
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,560
Speaker 6: welcome to the NFL, rookie, like, you know, like, but

2422
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 6: maybe that's good for him. That's why I just can't

2423
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 6: believe they didn't play him against this Miami team was

2424
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 6: kind of garbage like that. That was just the shock

2425
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 6: to me. It was like, this is such a layup

2426
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 6: game for him to play against a really lousy team.

2427
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 6: Your left tackle is a clean sheet tacks playing at

2428
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 6: home against the team with their third string quarterback who

2429
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:50,600
Speaker 6: has no pass rushers healthy, Like it just seemed like

2430
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 6: that was the game.

2431
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 3: But Dan is in New Jersey.

2432
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 29: Hey Dan, big guys, this is not a Drake may call.

2433
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 29: But you could see the headlines if they do, wait

2434
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 29: a week, it's going to be London calling right.

2435
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 2: Today.

2436
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 29: Here's here's my question. Though I don't think this was asked,

2437
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 29: but I didn't hear on the postgame show today, But

2438
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 29: at the end of the game when they're down by

2439
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 29: six or five. Excuse me, it's fourth and fifteen. Why

2440
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 29: don't just kick the field goal, play the defense, get

2441
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 29: the ball back. I mean it played out that that

2442
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 29: would have worked, because they would have with polkached about

2443
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 29: like the thirty five, they could have had a cheap

2444
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 29: a long field goal.

2445
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 5: But everything changes. I mean, you could have done that.

2446
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that that would be that would have

2447
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 5: been wrong. That was an option, absolutely, Dan, But don't

2448
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 5: go by like they ended up on the eleven yard

2449
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 5: line or whatever it was, and they would have kicked

2450
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 5: a field Like everything changes, Miami's urgency to get a

2451
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 5: first down is much greater. If they know that they

2452
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 5: can't give up a field goal, they lose, you know

2453
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, it's much harder. Like Miami's goal there

2454
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 5: was don't turn the ball over, make them use all

2455
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,640
Speaker 5: three timeouts. They can't go sept sixty yards, you know,

2456
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 5: with no timeouts. And who was it how much time

2457
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 5: was left?

2458
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 2: Right?

2459
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 6: Twenty seconds? Yeah, thirty seconds, thirty seconds. They got the

2460
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 6: ball back with twenty nine seconds.

2461
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2462
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 5: So like to me, it's different if Miami has to

2463
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 5: get a first down to prevent you from getting a

2464
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 5: field goal. Plus, even if it does work out exactly

2465
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 5: the same and you get the three in out, Miami's

2466
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 5: playing defense differently than they played. They're not giving you,

2467
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 5: you know, that catch the Hunter Henry right right, you

2468
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 5: know they're not just in the end zone. They're preventing there,

2469
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 5: trying to prevent a field goal range right completion you.

2470
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 6: Look at it's just it's just probabilities, right, Like what's

2471
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 6: more likely? And remember it was fourth and ten before

2472
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 6: Hunter Henry jumped off side.

2473
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 5: So it's to pick up in fifteen from the seventeen, Yeah,

2474
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 5: that being right.

2475
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, So converting that fourth down or kicking the field goal,

2476
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 6: maybe recovering an on site kick, or getting a three

2477
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 6: and out and then getting down the field again to

2478
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 6: kick another field to win the game. You know, the

2479
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 6: nerds would probably say it was more likely that you

2480
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 6: pick up the fourth down.

2481
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 8: Can I ask you, guys, did you know that's not

2482
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 8: a lot of people really reacting strongly to that last

2483
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 8: past that were set through to Hunter Henry and you know,

2484
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 8: were like, it can't go to him of anybody like,

2485
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 8: and I just I wasn't as upset because I just

2486
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 8: felt like he just was chucking it up, like.

2487
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 5: You saying, why he didn't just check it up into

2488
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 5: the end zone.

2489
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 6: I've cheened some.

2490
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 5: Still shots which I don't know, I know that's what

2491
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 5: I thought. I've seen some still shots that are laughably misleading,

2492
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 5: like one has like Douglas running toward the sideline, like

2493
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 5: you could have fitted into that role and then he

2494
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 5: could have gotten out of bounce like this is like

2495
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 5: a zero.

2496
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 6: This this guy's everywhere.

2497
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 5: Miami had everybody back, Like I just would have chucked

2498
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 5: it into the end zone and hope that maybe he

2499
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 5: gets deflected, you know, like you know, I would have

2500
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 5: given myself a shot. It was only was thirty six yards, right, No,

2501
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 5: it's further than that. I think, Oh okay, maybe it

2502
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 5: was their own thirty six they took over and that's

2503
01:55:58,440 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 5: what's sticking out.

2504
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you throw it in the end zone,

2505
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 3: it wasn't fourth down, right, so.

2506
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 5: You know, but there it was going to be the last.

2507
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 5: You might have had time for two plus, right, if

2508
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 5: you threw one in the end zone, and you might

2509
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 5: have had time for two plus.

2510
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 6: I actually kind of liked the design of the play,

2511
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 6: like I thought it was.

2512
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I think they were trying to do. Yeah, well,

2513
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 5: the one guy one guy Street, you know, the Mario

2514
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 5: Doug was streaking across the field one way, catching it

2515
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 5: boom to a guy going to maybe Polk coming the

2516
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 5: other way.

2517
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 6: But they had all the crossers going in one direction

2518
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 6: boom win. So they had like the it was like

2519
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 6: vertical and to clear it out. And then they had

2520
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 6: three clock crossers at three different levels coming across from

2521
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 6: the left to right, and like all three crossers are

2522
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 6: going into the sideline, like pretty well designed play where

2523
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 6: you think, you know, if I hit one of these levels,

2524
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 6: then the guy's gonna have a chance to get out

2525
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 6: of bounds. The problem was is that I had Hunter.

2526
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:51,880
Speaker 6: The ball just stopped Hunter Henry in the middle of

2527
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 6: the field instead of carrying him into the sideline. But

2528
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 6: you know, I he might have been able to get

2529
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 6: it to pop on the second level crosser. I don't

2530
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 6: know if the safety might make the tack.

2531
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 5: And I don't know that that's what they were trying

2532
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 5: to do, but I just wonder, like, do you have

2533
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 5: a better chance of maybe hitting someone on a dead

2534
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 5: run across the field and having them lateral or just

2535
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 5: throwing one up for grabs in the air.

2536
01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2537
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 6: So he had said on the EI that he go

2538
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 6: al Mary, Yeah, that he was that the design of

2539
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 6: the play is to hit pop at the second level

2540
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 6: crosser and so then you're out of bounds at like

2541
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:24,400
Speaker 6: the thirty or something like that.

2542
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 5: And I know people had that still shot of that.

2543
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 5: I don't think he was wide open now as some people.

2544
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 6: The safety is sitting on it.

2545
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 5: So the safety is you know, some outlets are reporting

2546
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 5: that he was wide open on that and they missed

2547
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:35,839
Speaker 5: him some outlets.

2548
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that's gonna be it for this.

2549
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 5: It's minutes.

2550
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 3: I appreciate you listening. We'll be back tomorrow at noon,

2551
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 3: so we'll talk to you then. And we got a

2552
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 3: Patriots playbook with John Rook tomorrow. So another big day

2553
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 3: is to turn the page day to the Houston Texans,

2554
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 3: and that's what we'll do tomorrow. See you then.

2555
01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:00,880
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