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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into a Monday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you back Together, Ready to roll.

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Speaker 2: Both had busy weekends. Both had extended weekends. Took a

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Speaker 2: day or two off here as we are wont to

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Speaker 2: do this time of year when the opportunity presents itself.

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Speaker 2: And Steve was at a wedding over the weekend, but

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Speaker 2: not the one everyone's thinking of.

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Speaker 3: I was not at Josh's wedding. We were laughing about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're still gotta do that. When h Yeah, Brownie knew

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Speaker 3: I told him I was going to a wedding this weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I said it was a you know, extended family member,

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Speaker 3: and we were, you know, going trap to travel for

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Speaker 3: and it's extended, and so we automatically, automatically whenever that happened,

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Speaker 3: everybody said, hey, what's going to josh wedding?

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Speaker 2: And it's a ruse.

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Speaker 3: It's a ruse going to Josh's wedding. And so I said,

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Speaker 3: here's what we do, Brownie. Not only was I Josh

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Speaker 3: tell him, not only was I at Josh's wedding, tell

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Speaker 3: him I was the efficient. At Josh's wedding.

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Speaker 2: You can pass for I think you could pass for

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Speaker 2: an efficient.

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Speaker 3: Some of you really wow that. Oh yeah, No, I

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Speaker 3: was not at Josh's wedding. I was not. I was

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Speaker 3: at an extended family member's wedding. It was the UK,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I was across the pond, my wife and

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Speaker 3: I and great. Loved it. Fun, you know, it was,

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Speaker 3: it was all of it great. The family is awesome

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Speaker 3: over there. Yeah, so I've had a lot of fun. Weather.

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Speaker 3: we got the UK weather here last right, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had a great weekend. But it's I'm yeah, jet

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Speaker 3: lags kicking me in the stomach pretty quick right here.

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Speaker 2: I always found it's worth going there, like because you're

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Speaker 2: losing time. When I come back to the States from Europe,

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Speaker 2: I usually am pretty okay, Well, you travel enough time.

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Speaker 3: Here's what we travel. Wednesday afternoon, we hop a flight,

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Speaker 3: we get there, fly through the and I don't sleep

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Speaker 3: on planes. Yeah, so I'm up all night anyway, I'm

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Speaker 3: up all night. It's a six and a half hour

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Speaker 3: flight over and it's like between like nine thirty and well,

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Speaker 3: it's nine thirty six and a half hours later. But

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Speaker 3: it's noon when we get there, right whatever, So it's noon,

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Speaker 3: you stay up, you do the day and but and

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Speaker 3: you plow through and you go to bed a little

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Speaker 3: or but not you know, crazy early, and then you

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Speaker 3: try and catch up like that. Now, yesterday, we get

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Speaker 3: in at like, I don't know, seven and pm last night, right,

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Speaker 3: so I stay up until like ten, but it's like

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Speaker 3: wake up at like six this morning. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: an adjustment, but it is. But the wedding was great,

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Speaker 3: loved it. I was not at I was not at

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen's wedding over the weekend, so yeah, that would

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Speaker 3: have been we should have pulled it off.

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Speaker 2: Do they do they do weddings any differently over there?

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Speaker 2: Any well, special things that you noticed that common to

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Speaker 3: As you know, everybody's wedding these days is a little

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Speaker 3: different it used to be. You know, back when I

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Speaker 3: was growing up, every single wedding was exactly the same,

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Speaker 3: no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Now everybody's got to put their unique stamp.

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Speaker 3: Nothing is the same. So yeah, it was. It was

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Speaker 3: It's a different countries all that stuff. Yeah, so it

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Speaker 3: was a little different, but it was nice, very nice,

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Speaker 3: very brief, very brief.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's quick, quick ceremony.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the ceremony was quick, but I think it was.

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Speaker 3: But it was because of the venue. Oh, it was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the ceremony in the it was the courthouse.

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Speaker 3: It was in a courthouse. Fifty or sixty people at

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Speaker 2: We got to June and you wouldn't know it by

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Speaker 2: the weather we've had here in Western New York. It

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Speaker 2: has been god awful all spring. It's supposed to turn

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Speaker 3: It's been nice today. I mean I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Seven is supposed to be the high today, and then

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Speaker 2: they're supposed to get into the mid eighties tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: then Wednesday, and then I think by the weekend it's

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Speaker 2: going on. I explain it. Yeah, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: We used to what was it the El Nino or

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Speaker 2: Is there some other when you have a rainy one, right?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, yeah, but that's would we hear about it though?

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Speaker 2: If you would think, right.

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Speaker 3: Is there is there an explanation for the weather there

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Speaker 3: is that has been prolonged for the cold wet I

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Speaker 3: don't want an extended spring, not that they can do

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Speaker 3: anything about it, but at least I don't know, like, oh, okay, if.

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Speaker 2: There is an explanation, I don't think I want to

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Speaker 3: At least it's not my fault. I'm done.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely yeah. So right, I got some fishing in

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Speaker 3: Saw the pictures.

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Speaker 2: Nice done, Yeah, we went y bast fishing, and you

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Speaker 2: should give a job.

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Speaker 3: We should get give Jay those pictures and put on

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Speaker 2: We did, okay. I mean it wasn't a great weather

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Speaker 3: To me, I was a little more enjoyable, I told you.

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Speaker 3: And you're doing something like that, and you know you

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Speaker 2: I mean I was fine, and once the sun came out,

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Speaker 3: That's the one thing that I continue to remember from

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Speaker 3: I don't care what the temperature is.

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Speaker 2: It's a real thing. But this spring has just been

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Speaker 2: it's been rough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all you know, and I you always find

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Speaker 3: that kept cold Bishop.

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Speaker 2: He's been here all off season.

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Speaker 4: Yea.

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Speaker 2: He goes hey, guys, and he's like he's going on.

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Speaker 2: He's like seriously, I mean he's from Peachtree, Georgia, so

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Speaker 3: Right, So he's he's a softie, but we're told him,

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Speaker 3: I said no, no. Usually by April fifty tax day

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Speaker 3: we're out on the golf course and with that out

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Speaker 3: of that, well the tax day has come and gone.

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Speaker 3: Six weeks later, we're.

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Speaker 2: Still still fighting out of it.

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Speaker 3: So I'm I'm looking like a total dope to the

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's that we should. Obviously everybody under the

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Speaker 2: Allen is a married man. Got married to his fiance,

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Speaker 2: Hailey Steinfeld over the weekend out in California. So congrats

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Speaker 2: to the newlyweds. Hopefully they're enjoying some time together.

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Speaker 3: Now I don't hear yet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if like the honeymoon, when do you

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Speaker 2: do that honeymoon? Like with his work schedule, you do

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Speaker 2: well now or do you wait until after many time out?

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Speaker 3: This is voluntary. So he wasn't here last week. We'll

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Speaker 3: be here this week. Next week's minimp, he'll be back.

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Speaker 2: He was here for a day or two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was there to but yeah, he takes Josh

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Speaker 3: the mandatory what was next week? There's no excuse for that, ya.

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Speaker 2: That I was wondering. I was, I was thinking to myself, well,

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Speaker 3: A thing in the next week or two that I've

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Speaker 2: I was wondering if like he would just hold put

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Speaker 2: Then you got five weeks to work with there, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but unless she's got a project she's working on.

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Speaker 2: I imagine they are wedging it in.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but she may not have anything going on.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe not if you're saying knowing their schedules are

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, when it starts, it particularly hers when it's

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Speaker 3: it's like him when well, you go on set for

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Speaker 3: fear foremost like being in season. Yeah, all the time.

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Speaker 3: You got a routine and it's every day and sometimes

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Speaker 3: they go late at night and that which is just

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Speaker 3: like his job. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's a balance.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. So good luck to them, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Good luck to them. Second week of OTAs and the

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Speaker 2: open practice to the media will be tomorrow, so we

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Speaker 2: will have full coverage of that both here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live on Tuesday and on Buffalo bills dot com.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver Stefan Diggs is at Patriots OTAs today. That

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Speaker 2: according to offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, who told reporters the

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Speaker 2: veteran receiver was in attendance, and then we've subsequently seen

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Speaker 2: social media video confirming his presence. Diggs was absent as

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Speaker 2: we know from last week's voluntary workouts. Patriots coach Mike

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Speaker 2: Vrabel said last week the team was aware of the

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Speaker 2: recent viral video of Digs in which he is holding

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Speaker 2: what appears to be a pink substance while on a

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Speaker 2: boat with a number of women. It is unclear what

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Speaker 2: the substance is or when the video was shot. Digs signed,

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Speaker 2: as we know, the three year contract worth a maximum

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Speaker 2: of sixty nine million dollars with the Patriots in March.

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Speaker 2: He's currently recovering from attorney acl The NFL was asked

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Speaker 2: The league has revamped their substance abuse policy, which has

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Speaker 3: How let me ask you this. You gotta you're Mike

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Speaker 2: You're trying to It depends on how much you feel

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Speaker 3: I mean, because this is just one of a stack

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Speaker 3: Well you've got a chance. Yeah, you've got a chance

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Speaker 3: football and you're gonna get injured? Absolutely, one thousand percent. No,

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Speaker 3: Now it's a tough decision to make, and there's no

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Speaker 3: There's got to be another the Kelsey if it didn't count,

435
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Speaker 3: but Kelsey's lateral in the Cadarius Tony had got called back,

436
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Speaker 3: that one would the same thing. Remember when Mahomes like

437
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Speaker 3: threw it left handed, a past left hand, and stuff

438
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Speaker 3: like that happens. This is one of them, and that's

439
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Speaker 3: made the cover of Madness. I'm all about it. It's

440
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: it's a great picture. And then you know, they did

441
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Speaker 3: a nice job with it, just like they did when

442
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Speaker 3: josh was on the cover.

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for You today concerns Buffalo's roster, and

444
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Speaker 2: the question is this, what position on the Bills roster

445
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Speaker 2: do you believe could use a proven veteran. Have you

446
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: looked up and down the roster and you said to yourself, man,

447
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Speaker 2: I wish we had a guy that we knew what

448
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Speaker 2: we were getting at this spot. What is that spot

449
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Speaker 2: for you? You tell us what the position is and

450
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Speaker 2: why you'd like to see an ad there. Eight o

451
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Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eight eight eight five

452
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Speaker 2: point fifty two five fifty those the numbers to join us,

453
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Speaker 2: because everybody's got a concern here or there, even with

454
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Speaker 2: a roster as solid as Buffalo's, where they'll be like, man,

455
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Speaker 2: I'd feel a little bit better if we, you know,

456
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Speaker 2: like that kind of thing. So if there's a spot

457
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Speaker 2: for you on Buffalo's roster positionally where you would add

458
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Speaker 2: a proven veteran if you had the wherewithal to do so,

459
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Speaker 2: you know, sit in the GM chair for a day

460
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Speaker 2: and let us know what position that is. I think

461
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Speaker 2: with you know some there are there's plenty of talent

462
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Speaker 2: on this roster up and down, and it goes too

463
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Speaker 2: deep at just about every position. But there is a

464
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Speaker 2: lot of a lot of that talent is unproven, either

465
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Speaker 2: because of youth and inexperience, or because they're new to

466
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Speaker 2: this roster and you're not quite sure what it's going

467
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Speaker 2: to look like yet. Right, So with that in mind,

468
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Speaker 2: we're wondering if there's a position that's on your mind

469
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Speaker 2: that you would like to add, you know, a veteran

470
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Speaker 2: type player if you could, so you know the number

471
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Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five fifty one, eight eight five

472
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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty open lines for you there. If

473
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Speaker 2: you don't have time to give us a call, not

474
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Speaker 2: to worry, you can always hit us up on the

475
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Speaker 2: tweets sheet at one Bill is Live, does a position

476
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Speaker 2: jump out to you, Steve at all, like, sayh, you

477
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Speaker 2: know what, it wouldn't hurt to have a.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to take any of it. I

479
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Speaker 3: don't want to steal any of our listeners on here.

480
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Speaker 3: I think we'll probably get to wait, I think I'll

481
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Speaker 3: say it. I mean, I think we're going to get

482
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Speaker 3: a lot of calls about safety. Yeah, because that's really maybe.

483
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Speaker 2: No, I mean, when you think about it, Rap is

484
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Speaker 2: kind of a veteran, a young veteran, but a veteran.

485
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Speaker 2: To your player, Yeah, you're a vet. You're vested in

486
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Speaker 2: the league.

487
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Speaker 3: So's so's DeMar. Oh yeah, fifty year for him too,

488
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I but I think that's what

489
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Speaker 3: we'll get some calls on. I'm trying to think of

490
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Speaker 3: like a young group and Khalil sha Kiir is going

491
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Speaker 3: in like four year. But you got Elija, you got more,

492
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Speaker 3: you got you got these other guys, so we you know. Yeah,

493
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Speaker 3: I mean that's I think.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty like it's a pretty good roster.

495
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Speaker 3: But it's an excellent roster. It's a really good roster.

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But aight, oh three oh five point fifty is

497
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Speaker 2: the number to call. You can adds in the GM

498
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Speaker 2: chair for a day. You can add a proven veteran

499
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Speaker 2: at only one position on this roster. What position are

500
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Speaker 2: you doing it at? Eight O three oh five point

501
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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's

502
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Speaker 2: go to the phones and to Bob and cheek to Wago.

503
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Speaker 2: What's up, Bob, Hey, you guys.

504
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Speaker 5: I just want to say I think I had since

505
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Speaker 5: Boyer number have been gone, I would love if we

506
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Speaker 5: would pick up a really veteran. I'm talking like maybe

507
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Speaker 5: somebody from Miami or somebody or you know, a really

508
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Speaker 5: good safety. I think would hope that people. I think

509
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Speaker 5: we have a great team. I don't hate our safeties,

510
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Speaker 5: but I just think Patrick there, who know exactly where

511
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Speaker 5: to put people on stuff, would be great.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this, and you're right, Bob, Obviously, if

513
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: we're all having this thought exercise about which spot, we

514
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: all want it to be an all pro guy that

515
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Speaker 3: picked up. If you're gonna get an all pro, right,

516
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Speaker 3: if you had your druthers, I get it. But we're

517
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Speaker 3: talking about just a guy that's gonna you can it's dependable. Really,

518
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Speaker 3: I'm not talking if you want to get a yeah,

519
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: let's we'll have Miles Garrett show up, right, But we're

520
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, a player that's you know, just

521
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Speaker 3: a proven back, not even about steadying steadying, Yes, like

522
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Speaker 3: at corner. They got Trey White back in the building

523
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: for goodness sake. I mean that's what he is now, right.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But even with even with the safety position, if

525
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Speaker 2: you think about it, and I realized this was a

526
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Speaker 2: signing that kind of went under the radar because he's

527
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Speaker 2: not a household name. But Derek Farr was signed from

528
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: Washington as a free agent veteran player. He's played both spots,

529
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: both strong and free originally started for Washington, then moved

530
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: to the bench and was a reserve role player. You know,

531
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Speaker 2: based on some of the talent they added in free

532
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: agency in the draft down in Washington. He would qualify

533
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Speaker 2: as a veteran, you know, does he crack the lineup?

534
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Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll have to see what training camp brings.

535
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: I get. You know, so that that's a player that's

536
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: quote unquote a veteran guy. You mentioned Hamlin and Rappa

537
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: already are fifty year players. They're veterans for all intents

538
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Speaker 2: and purposes. And then you have, you know, the big,

539
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: the big five hundred pound you know, or sixty four

540
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: million dollar question, which is is Cole Bishop ready to

541
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Speaker 2: nail down a starting job in year two?

542
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Speaker 3: You'd love to see that.

543
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: That's I think that's the ideal scenario for the team.

544
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Speaker 2: He steps it up this spring, looks great in training camp,

545
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Speaker 2: in the preseason, nails down the starting job, and now

546
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 2: you've got your proven veterans that can come in and

547
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: step in if Bishop or Rapp get injured. Because you

548
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Speaker 2: have Hamlin, you have forests. You know what I'm saying.

549
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Speaker 3: It's one of those positions though, that veteran just you

550
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: just feel like that's where you need somebody who has

551
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: seen a lot of football at this level, you know

552
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: what I mean. You just feel like you need a

553
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: guys back there who have watched ten gazillion hours of

554
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 3: film and when the offense does this, you know they

555
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 3: won't do that, but might do the other. They're just

556
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: tipped off by so much because of their awareness and

557
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: all that they've seen. It's a position really second only

558
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 3: to maybe the quarterback spot, where experience really pays dividends,

559
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: really pays dividends. Of course, you can make the same

560
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: argument for a middle linebacker or something, right, but outside

561
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: of the quarterback spot, experience and center, you know what

562
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of those positions that's played between

563
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: the years, and so that I think we're all kind of,

564
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: you know, sitting in that fox hole today.

565
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Speaker 2: Let's get uh, let's get to a break here, but

566
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Speaker 2: we are going to get to your phone calls when

567
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Speaker 2: we return, as we are asking you what position on

568
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Speaker 2: the bills roster could use a proven veteran eight oh

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty your phone calls next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

572
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Speaker 2: back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

573
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Speaker 2: with you and question of the day, what position on

574
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Speaker 2: the Bills roster do you believe could use a proven veteran.

575
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna go right to the phones at eight oh

576
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Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two,

577
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: five fifty those the numbers that get on board, and

578
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Speaker 2: we go to Dave in Buffalo next. What's up, Dave?

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Speaker 6: Oh, just hanging out there. I hope you guys are

580
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 6: having fine. Oh yeah, Actually, my thought is that we

581
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 6: tend to take for granted things are a great at

582
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Speaker 6: quarterback because we had the MVP and all that. But

583
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Speaker 6: as Steve Oppas says, everybody gets hurt in the NFL.

584
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Speaker 6: So I know, if I'm comortable with Trubisky as our

585
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 6: plan B at quarterbacks, I'm really interested in looking at

586
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Speaker 6: their quarterback ranks to see if there's a better veteran

587
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 6: than Trubisky for us to bring in to back up Josh.

588
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Speaker 2: I think it's a very underrated competition that's going to ensue,

589
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: not only here in the spring, but in training camp

590
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: as well at the backup quarterback position, because I don't

591
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: think it's a lock that it's Trubisky. They signed Mike White.

592
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Speaker 2: He was on the practice squad last year and at

593
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Speaker 2: the end of last season they signed him to a

594
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: one year extension, so he is in camp as well

595
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: as Shane Bouchell, who was here at camp last year.

596
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Speaker 2: So while I understand where you're coming from, Dave, I

597
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Speaker 2: don't think Trubisky is a lock to be the backup.

598
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Speaker 2: I think Mike White's really going to push him. He's

599
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Speaker 2: a bit younger than him. He's actually the same draft

600
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Speaker 2: class as twenty eighteen. So I think that's a very

601
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: underrated competition. Steve the number two quarterback for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just because Trubisky's on the roster doesn't mean he's

603
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: going to be the number two, even if he's making

604
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: five million bucks or whatever it is. My thoughts on

605
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: backup quarterback are well documented on this show, and I'll

606
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: do them real call, give you the condensed version. I

607
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: don't care the backup quarterback is there to get Josh ready,

608
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: not to play well. If Josh goes down, so does

609
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: the season. Now they may win some games. They even

610
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: get the playoffs without Josh, But come on, the MVP.

611
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: If there was another guy out there that could replace Josh,

612
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: he would be starting for twenty five other teams. So

613
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: you're splitting hairs. The difference between these other guys Mitch

614
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: Trubisky or Shane Bouchell or what, whatever the differences are,

615
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: we may never know. We hopefully we never find out.

616
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: The backup, the quarterback room, the backup, the two, number

617
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: two guy, the number three guy, the practice squad guy.

618
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: All four of those guys are there to get one

619
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Speaker 3: guy ready. That's the number one guy. That's it. I

620
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: do not care if the guy can play. If he can,

621
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: that's furthered. If he can, awesome. I hope I never

622
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: see it, right, I mean, that's what we're talking about.

623
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Speaker 2: Right, But it will be an interesting question in terms

624
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Speaker 2: of what the coaches decided upon based on what you

625
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: were saying, because I think that has merit.

626
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Speaker 3: Because they will make the decision based on the guy

627
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: that can play. They'll keep the guy who helps Josh

628
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: get ready, but they'll also keep the best player. And

629
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Speaker 3: is that the same players If it's not the same player,

630
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Speaker 3: so who cares, We'll keep them both. We'll play the

631
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Speaker 3: good player, but the other guy's gonna be there helping it.

632
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Speaker 3: So that's all in the stew of what goes into

633
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: that room.

634
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: But the Bills haven't carried three quarterbacks on the active

635
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: roster in quite some time.

636
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Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as he's in the building, on the

637
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: practice squad or you know, washing socks something he's got

638
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: to be, you can be there. I think they're living

639
00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: in Josh's basement.

640
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of an underrated competition

641
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: this year because Mike White, you know, got here in

642
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: what October November last year. I mean, the pecking order

643
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: had already been laid out with Trubisky as the backup

644
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: coming back after a year in Pittsburgh. It's different now

645
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: going into these OTAs mini camp and more importantly, training

646
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: camp in the preseason, where both of those guys are

647
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: gonna play a lot.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's in well, yeah, nobody's in the quarterback room that

649
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Speaker 3: Josh doesn't like, you know what I'm saying.

650
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Josh and Mike White got to know each

651
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: other in the pre draft process because, as I said,

652
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Speaker 2: they were in the same draft class, and that's how

653
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Speaker 2: they kind of got to know each other.

654
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Speaker 3: So there's there's some stuff in there that you know

655
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: you can you can say whatever you want, but you

656
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: know that room is about getting the guy ready, and

657
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: he wants a certain combination. You've got Shame Bouchell, Mitch Trubisky,

658
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: Mike White, and the best player will be the number

659
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 3: two guy, but the best asset to Josh, he's going

660
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 3: to be in that mix too, if it's even if

661
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: it's not the best player.

662
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Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that if you have a

663
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Speaker 2: quarterback that's good on scout team to get your defense ready,

664
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Speaker 2: that has value too, and Trubisky has been trumpeted as

665
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: an excellent Scout team quarterback to get the defense ready

666
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Speaker 2: for your.

667
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Speaker 3: Let's let's not forget when Mitch has been in there,

668
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Speaker 3: he's been modestrian.

669
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Speaker 2: Well, he's also been mopping up. I mean, the games

670
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: has largely been decided and right.

671
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: He threw the one play he had was the best

672
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 3: to Shavers, the quick screen to Shaves. They went for

673
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Speaker 3: a touchdown. But I mean, yeah, how do you know,

674
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Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't we haven't seen Mitch Trubisky play

675
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Speaker 3: in whatever.

676
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: Played a little bit in Pittsburgh two years ago. But yeah,

677
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, okay, but

678
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: I'll listen. You're right, I mean, you're right. I mean

679
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: that's the kind of level we're at. I mean, this rosters.

680
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Speaker 3: Let's go right, Let's.

681
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Speaker 2: Get back to the phones and to Judy in Buffalo.

682
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: It's up, Judy.

683
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 7: You know, I could care less about this proven bestroom.

684
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Speaker 7: That's the last proove in bestroom. We got the sixty

685
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 7: million dollar bus bond biller. Now we have a player

686
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 7: bought both of us who may or may not even

687
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 7: be able to take the field. Okay, regardless, I like

688
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 7: to go with young talent. But I want to revisit

689
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 7: the Stefan Diggs trade? Am I wrong when I say

690
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 7: that the Bills gave up significant talent to get Stefan Diggs,

691
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 7: which was not a bad move. But did the Minnesota

692
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 7: Vikings turn all of that capital that we gave them

693
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Speaker 7: into drafting Justin Jefferson? Am I wrong in that?

694
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Speaker 3: You're not wrong? They did. They In fact, they used

695
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: the exact pick.

696
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was the pick they used in

697
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Speaker 2: the first round. I think she's asking, what did you know?

698
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: What was everything? You know what? I mean that Minnesota

699
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: got in the trade. Uh, you know for Stefan Diggs.

700
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting too you think back on it, it's

701
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: hard to it's hard to poke holes in the trade

702
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: because of what they Yeah, both teams won, and you

703
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: think would both teams have been as good if they

704
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 3: hadn't made the trade. I don't know. I mean, I mean,

705
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: Jefferson is a great player.

706
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: Diggs had four one hundred catch seasons in his four

707
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: years with the Bills. He was enormously productive. He lifted

708
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: the offense to another level, an AFC title contending level,

709
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: if not a Super Bowl level. And here's the thing,

710
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: he was a force multiplier here.

711
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: Would Justin Jefferson have been as big an asset to

712
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: Josh as Diggs was as as immediate immediately because you

713
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: know what we all thought, and I guess rightfully. So

714
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: we needed a veteran receiver to a get open guy,

715
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: no question about it, that Josh could depend on as

716
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: a young player who's going to look at his first

717
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: read and throw it. He didn't have to go to

718
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: his third re wasn't ready for that, right, And Diggs

719
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 3: was that guy. Now, Justin Jefferson, yeah, I probably could

720
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: have been and he might have been that guy, and

721
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: the Bills might have been able to draft him, but

722
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: everything would be different. It might have been different, might

723
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: have been the same. Maybe Jefferson comes in and all

724
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, him and Josh grow together and they're

725
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 3: still here and all that goes on. But we didn't

726
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: know that before they drafted, right, they knew what Diggs

727
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: was because he'd proven it through the course of his

728
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: career in Minnesota. Kirk Cousins didn't know didn't need a

729
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: guy like Diggs. Yeah, Josh did, yes, And that was

730
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: the difference. You had two teams on different trajectories, which

731
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: is why the trade worked for both squads. Now, in fairness,

732
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: twenty teams passed on Justin Jefferson. I mean it is

733
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: the twenty first pick that year, twenty teams. He wasn't

734
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Speaker 3: even the first wide out.

735
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Speaker 2: No, So I mean take it with a grain of salt.

736
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Speaker 2: I mean, I still remember reading draft profiles that were saying, well,

737
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: he's a little to he's going to struggle early against

738
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: press coverage. You know, he doesn't have enough strength and

739
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: you know, not an expert separator from tight man coverage.

740
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: You know he's gonna have to adjust to that. Needs

741
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: more detailed route running, you know, and then he comes

742
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: in and he lights the world on fire. So he

743
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: wasn't universally beloved by the NFL scouting community. He was

744
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: going to be a first round pick, but not the

745
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Speaker 2: top half. And he goes twenty first overall, So you know,

746
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: it is what it is. I think it personally, looking

747
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 2: back on it, I think it worked out for both

748
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: clubs extraordinarily well. But those are the best trades, trades

749
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Speaker 2: that work out for both sides.

750
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Speaker 3: You can you can poopoo it now that we know

751
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: what Justin Jefferson was and all that, but we we

752
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 3: needed a guy, proven guy, and they knew they were

753
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 3: getting it with Diggs and they did.

754
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get back to the phones. We go to

755
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: Joe in Williamsville.

756
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Speaker 8: What's up, Joe, Hey, Steve. First of all, just so

757
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 8: you know, I didn't attend Josh's wedding either.

758
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: Sorry I missed it. I am too.

759
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 8: Anyway, listening last week your discussion that you had about

760
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 8: kickoffs and changing the rules to prevent injuries, and that

761
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 8: I brought me back to I think it was two

762
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 8: thousand and seven, a season opener where Kevin Everett was

763
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 8: injured on a kickoff yep, and he had a spinal

764
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 8: injury and thankfully he later I think it was yeah,

765
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 8: you recovered, he can walk now. Anyway, Steve sort of

766
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 8: took my thunder away. My first thought was that we

767
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 8: need a good, solid veteran backup quarterback in case Josh

768
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 8: goes down, and I know, financially against the cap and

769
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 8: every ding, it's probably never going to happened. Anyway. You

770
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 8: discussed that pretty pretty much. But looking at available free agents, now,

771
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 8: what about von Miller bringing him back on a reduced salary?

772
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 8: Do you ever think that would happen? I'll hang up

773
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 8: and listen to you guys.

774
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a long shot, only because you

775
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: have Joey Bosa here who's essentially going to fill that role.

776
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: I think we're all anticipating Bosa to be a passer

777
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: or ash specialist in the mode that they hoped Von

778
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: Miller would be. But you know, as we know, Miler

779
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: tore is ACL his first season here after twelve games

780
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: and was never the same. You know, you try tearing

781
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: an ACL at eight thirty four and be the guy

782
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: you always work.

783
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Speaker 3: To be fair though he was killing it up until

784
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: that point.

785
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: Well, he had eight sacks and was eleven games.

786
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: He was going to have a double digit sacked season.

787
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: He was going to do exactly what the Bills wanted

788
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: him to do, but he got hurt. So, yeah, there

789
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: are no guarantees in this game.

790
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: We all know that.

791
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless I don't, we don't. Again, once again we're

792
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: back in the spot where we don't exactly know how

793
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: the coaching staff of the Bills feels about Vaughn and

794
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: what they think defenses thought about Von when they were

795
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 3: playing this last year. Maybe that was the protection sliding

796
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 3: towards him. Was he getting doubled once in a while,

797
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: were they chipping him? How? How did how good was he?

798
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: And will they get some benefit if they have Joey

799
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: Bossa on one side and Vaughan on the other And

800
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: can they get Von to play for cheap for like

801
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: a veteran minimum kind of deal, uh or fit him

802
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: under the cap. All of that stuff is what stands

803
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: in the way of that happening. But that's it. I mean,

804
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: they would they like Von Vaughn was a team player,

805
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 3: of captain, a vet, a mentor, a leader, all of

806
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: that stuff. He was. He was beloved here in his

807
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: time brief time with the Bills even when he was injured,

808
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: so they wouldn't have any probably having him back in

809
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: the locker room in that regard. But all that other

810
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: stuff's got to take be taken care of.

811
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Speaker 2: And I saw a report last week that indicated he

812
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: does still want to play, he wants to continue his

813
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: playing career. I just think he's a late training camp signing.

814
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: That's kind of where I envision him signing on, latching

815
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: on with the team. And I think short of several

816
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: a rash of injuries at the position here, I do

817
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: not see him here. I think he's more likely to

818
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: sign somewhere else. Got to take a break here. More

819
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Speaker 2: of your phone calls, So if you're holding at eight

820
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Speaker 2: O three zero five fifty, stay where you are. We'll

821
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Speaker 2: get to you when we get back here. On One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colida Helton's Buffalo Bills.

823
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Speaker 9: Radio, what position on the Bills roster do you believe

824
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 9: could use?

825
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: Approven Veteran had some interesting suggestions so far. Here On

826
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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you. Let's

827
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Speaker 2: get right back to the phones, though, and we go

828
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Speaker 2: to Steve out in Rochester, what's up, Steve?

829
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Speaker 10: How you doing?

830
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: Guys?

831
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Speaker 10: I'm going with running back. I think Cookie's going to

832
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 10: be problematic with an attitude this year.

833
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, what would what do you expect and what

834
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: would you have James Cook do? What do you what

835
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: are your reasonable expectations?

836
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 10: Just play minimum and put somebody, put a veteran in

837
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 10: there that knows what's going on. I think Cook takes

838
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 10: too much credit for what that offense already has. There's

839
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 10: probably any any running back in the league would die

840
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 10: for that position.

841
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: What do you you're not as you're not I mean

842
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: your thoughts on Ray Davis and Ty Johnson, You're they're

843
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: just okay, and you rather have a different guy or.

844
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 10: Well, yeah somewhat, just somebody that you know can produce

845
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 10: and has produced and like I say, just can kind

846
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 10: of like put you know, put Cook in his put

847
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 10: Cook in his place.

848
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it. There are some people that are

849
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: a little put off by, you know, the way it's

850
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: gone this off season with you know, there's clearly they're

851
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: clearly not in the same financial space the Bills and Cook. Otherwise,

852
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: an extension probably would have been done with a handful

853
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: of other players. Some of which were from his own

854
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: draft class that got signed to extensions here this off

855
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: season by the Bills, like Khalil Shakir for example, right,

856
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: and that hasn't happened.

857
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 3: So I think the Bills have made their philosophy and

858
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: running backs pretty clear. They were willing to play for

859
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: a number of years with you know, with motor Devin Singletary.

860
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 2: Well, he was a third round pick, was not signed

861
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: to a second contract. Zach Moss was a third round

862
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: pick traded ultimately not here after only a year and

863
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: a half, gets traded, uh for another running back, you know,

864
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: Nahim Hines. I just now here's Cook as a late

865
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: second round pick, practically a third round pick. I mean,

866
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: what was he thirty picks from the end of round two.

867
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a real value position for NFL teams.

868
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: You there's a ton of guys around that are more

869
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: than capable, and some of them really capable if in

870
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: the right spot. And there's you can pay one hundred

871
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: percent of the money and have one hundred percent of

872
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: the guy, or you can have eighty five percent of

873
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: the guy for ten percent of the money. That's the difference.

874
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: That's that's you know that seventy five percent value. There

875
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: is what you're looking for in the roster, right, because

876
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: you can take that seventy five that difference in the

877
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: money and give it to somebody else on the teams

878
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: you really need or that you you know you need

879
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: that can help you win. So that's the problem. The

880
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: difference between the Ray Davises and Ty Johnson's of the

881
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: world isn't vast enough for them to be making three

882
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: hundred grand a year, four hundred or five hundred grand

883
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: a year and paying James Cook fifteen million. It's just

884
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: too much of a gap in the production and the

885
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: money as opposed to the production. So that's the problem,

886
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: that's right, there's the issue.

887
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and at this stage in the game, you know

888
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: the options are pretty limited. You don't know what Nick

889
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: Chubb's health is. Who's not going to be back with

890
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: the Browns. It appears JK. Dobbins long injury list in

891
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: his career, and then you're talking like Edwards cam Akers

892
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: who had some career threatening injuries, Jamal Williams. So it's

893
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: not a deep pool. Deonta Foreman might be a bigger

894
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: back that you might be interested in, but yeah, it's

895
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: an interesting thing to think about, especially if you have

896
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: Cooked taking a hard line, if in fact he decides

897
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: to hold in, hold out, whatever the case might be,

898
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: let's go to rick out in California. What he got

899
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: for his rick?

900
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: Hey, boys, thank you so much for taking my call. Sure,

901
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 4: So before I get to my position, veteran, I like

902
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 4: my two cents was really quick on the James Cook.

903
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I love the kid. He's a really great guy.

904
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 4: But I think he's handling this whole off season the

905
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: completely wrong way. So I think he's one off season,

906
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 4: you know, premature before all this publicity. But if you

907
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: think about it, he's forced to play on a rocky

908
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 4: contract this year, and he knows that he has to

909
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: ball out so he gets his massive contract next season.

910
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 4: So let's just say he balls out. Everything is great

911
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 4: and that's awesome. I say next season, either we franchise

912
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: tag him and then draft his replacement or work another deal.

913
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: But either way, we're gonna get James Cook on a

914
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 4: really good deal this year and then a franchise tag

915
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: deal next year. So this is a moot point talking

916
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 4: about James Cook at all in my opinion. That being said,

917
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: that being said, the veteran. I want to, you know,

918
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: have a position group on in the presence there. I

919
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: hate to say it, guys, is the defensive line. I

920
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 4: know we got Joey Bosa now, but he does not

921
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: give me the warm and fuzzies at all. And we

922
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 4: all know that he hurt his calf already in a

923
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: non contact practice.

924
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 11: So that being.

925
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 4: Said, I I really wish we had von Miller back.

926
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: As far as far as that goes on that notion,

927
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that Bosa is the answer as far

928
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: as the defensive line. He probably has a coach wise

929
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 4: or a mentor, absolutely, But as far as being on

930
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 4: the line helping us, you know, on a daily basis,

931
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's the guy.

932
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 7: Man.

933
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 4: I I'd rather I really really wanted Buffalo just to

934
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 4: make a splash move and work their magic being some

935
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: way get Hendrickson from the Bengals to us some way, somehow.

936
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a big splash, I get it.

937
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 4: But in the long run, he's gonna be our stabilizing

938
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 4: force on the line and we could build around him

939
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: from the years to come.

940
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: Well, you're not gonna build around you, gonna build around Rick.

941
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: You're not gonna build around Trey Henderson for the years

942
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 3: to become because he's thirty and he's not getting better.

943
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: He might get worse. He's not having a seventeen sacks

944
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: seasons until his thirty year in a row for the

945
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: third year. And right, uh so, yeah, you're I get

946
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: the thought. But Trey Hendrison is not the guy you

947
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: think he is, or at least I don't think he is.

948
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 3: And Bosa and Vaughan, Yeah, we had that conversation a

949
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: little earlier. I'm not I'm not a verse to You're

950
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: never gonna have too many pass rushers because it's a

951
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 3: throwing It's still a throwing league. H So I'm I'm

952
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: I kind of get it. I kind of get what

953
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: you're saying about the D line.

954
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: I mean veterans that you could consider as you know,

955
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: veteran presence on the defensive line. I think when he

956
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: gets back from suspension, Larry Ogan Joby falls into that

957
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: category a ninth year player. You still have day Kwon

958
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: Jones on the roster, which a lot of his team

959
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: mats respect. And look, you're at a point now where

960
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: Ed Oliver's a veteran player. I mean, you're talking the

961
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen draft. He's twenty eight years old, so I

962
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: think there are there are veterans there, just maybe not

963
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: in the traditional sense that he might be thinking. We

964
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: got to take a break here. Our number two will

965
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: begin with your phone calls, though, Gary on a cell

966
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: and David Elmo will lead us off when we return

967
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Colta Health, It's

968
00:50:26,520 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

969
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Called Light to help our.

970
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Number two on a Monday, Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you,

971
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: what position on the Bills roster do you believe could

972
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: use a proven veteran. Had some interesting calls so far,

973
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: and we're taking more here at eight o three oh

974
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: five point fifty as promised, leading off with Gary onasal,

975
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: what do you got for us? Gary, you're on One

976
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

977
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 11: Hey guys, I all doing good?

978
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: Good?

979
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 10: Oh yeah.

980
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 11: I look at this time the off season where we're at.

981
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 11: Everybody knows now it's players get cut, the training camp

982
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 11: coming up, going to get maybe trade air cut their

983
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 11: because that's where we're at the off season. Not who

984
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 11: he wants, who available. I'm hoping for feed receiver. I

985
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 11: really want a defense to the end, and obviously like Henderson,

986
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 11: maybe you know, maybe they can make that work. I

987
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 11: don't know, or somebody like that. Those are the two

988
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 11: positions I'm looking at, maybe a linebacker. But it's really

989
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 11: about who's available, guys. I mean, what's available is we

990
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 11: can make it work.

991
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. You got to fit.

992
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be somebody who's gonna make twenty million

993
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: dollars a year, right, So, and I get too wide receiver,

994
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: defensive end or money spots. And if a guy's proven there,

995
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 3: he's had some production over the course of his year

996
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: of his careers.

997
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you want to take a flyer on you know,

998
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: Zadarius Smith, who's still out there, Matt Judon, Jadavian Clowney

999
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: is still out there, Shaq Barrett. I mean there's some

1000
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: name players. They're not what they once were. You know,

1001
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 2: yannickin Gockway seems to play for a different team every year.

1002
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's options. I mean, heck, Dewan Smooth's still

1003
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: out there, who did a nice job here. He's not

1004
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: a pass rusher in a traditional sense.

1005
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: But you know, you go to a list on some

1006
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: of the website the top name on the list is

1007
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 3: Vaughn you know.

1008
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zadarius Smith up there.

1009
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: Too, Matt Judon, Yeah, Judn, Preston Smith, DeMarcus Walker. Then

1010
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: you get down, you know, Yeah, there's a lot of

1011
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: guys out there.

1012
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Dave and elman X. What's up Dave?

1013
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 12: Hey, how you doing, guys? Thanks for taking my call?

1014
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 8: Sure good.

1015
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'd like to see a veteran presence with some

1016
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 12: size on the linebacking crew. I mean, all our linebackers

1017
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 12: are roughly six foot six foot two and two twenty

1018
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 12: five and we saw last year in the playoffs that

1019
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 12: stopping the run was one of our big issues.

1020
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you know, you're not wrong. You want a

1021
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: big bodied guy, you can take the guy that's the

1022
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: Jets cut CJ. Mosley if you want a big body guy.

1023
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that's an option.

1024
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: But one of the things we talked about in the draft.

1025
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 3: That's why they got big couple of big defensive tackles,

1026
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: really big and cover up the linebacker to give those

1027
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: guys a chance. And the thought is, I get your idea, Dave,

1028
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: but what coaches in the NFL the kind of the

1029
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: atmosphere now is that you get big dudes up front

1030
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: and you leave your linebackers small because they got to

1031
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: have speed to get to the edges, and it's a

1032
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 3: fast game, so their cover guys are faster and they

1033
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: got to drop into space and cover. So the reason

1034
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: they don't like to go. Now, if you've got a big,

1035
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: heavy guy who can do that and drop back into

1036
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 3: coverage as well, he's he might be an axe murder

1037
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 3: if he's available, because those those guys are rare. If

1038
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: he's available, it's because somebody doesn't want There's.

1039
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: A reason why CJ. Moseley is available. Number One, he

1040
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: costs a lot of money, had to be a cap

1041
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: casualty of the Jets. But for all intents and purposes,

1042
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: he got replaced in the lineup last year by Jamie

1043
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: and Sherwood. Why because he's a better athlete. So they

1044
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: started Sherwood and Quincy Williams for the Jets at their

1045
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: inside linebacker positions because they could drop and cover and

1046
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: they could get to the edges. As Steve mentioned, Moseley

1047
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 2: couldn't do that. Too big, not fast enough. The days

1048
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 2: of the two hundred and fifty pound linebackers are pretty

1049
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: much over.

1050
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 3: On I'm Yeah, that's why you know, the size on

1051
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 3: your defense is up front and almost no place else.

1052
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah for all. Yeah, because even the safeties are smaller.

1053
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: You don't have two hundred and twenty five pounds safeties

1054
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 2: anymore playing in the box.

1055
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: You just don't.

1056
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: Those guys are playing linebacker now, that's right, that's where

1057
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: they are.

1058
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: That's right.

1059
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: They're not playing safety.

1060
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: Some of the linebackers in this league right now are

1061
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: smaller than the corners in the seventies.

1062
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a pivot now, as we wanted to

1063
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 2: get to our guest here on today's show, and it's

1064
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: SI dot COM's senior NFL writer, Connor Or. Recently put

1065
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: out his one hundred bold predictions for the twenty twenty

1066
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: five NFL season. We wanted to go over few of

1067
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: those with him since they had a Bills slant to them.

1068
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: So let's check in now with SI dot COM's Connor Or.

1069
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: All Right, Connor, one hundred bold for the NFL twenty

1070
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 2: twenty five season, and you got very Bills intensive right

1071
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: off the rip Super Bowl and not only appearing in

1072
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, but you got the Bills beating the

1073
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: Eagles in Super Bowl sixty out in Santa Clara come February.

1074
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: I guess what kind of has you leaning that way?

1075
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 13: I just thought this was a great It was a

1076
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 13: great offseason, and it was the kind of offseason that

1077
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 13: is not going to win you any awards, but is

1078
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 13: gonna matter during the winter months. Like you really hammered

1079
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 13: the defense where maybe in the past you've had some

1080
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 13: depth concerns or some issues, and you're putting faith in

1081
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 13: an offense that, yeah, scored like thirty one points a

1082
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 13: game last year, second highest scoring team in the NFL,

1083
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 13: and so I think it was one of those off

1084
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 13: seasons where you could have chased your tail a little bit,

1085
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 13: but instead you're putting the resources where it needs to be.

1086
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 13: There's going to be a deep rotation at pass rusher,

1087
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 13: There's just going to be stopgaps across all positions. And

1088
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 13: I feel like this has got to.

1089
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: Be the year.

1090
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 13: And I know, Okay, yes, Bill's fans have been saying

1091
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 13: this since nineteen whatever eighty nine. I understand that, but

1092
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 13: I think this makes the most sense in terms of

1093
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 13: the landscape of the AFC, in terms of the landscape

1094
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 13: of the NFL, and what they did in the off season.

1095
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the off season. We talked about it just

1096
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: after the draft, leading up to it, it was defense,

1097
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: we got to do all this. Yeah, and they picked

1098
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 3: players in this draft at positions and of the quality

1099
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 3: that and I use the phrase it scratched an itch.

1100
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: The entire fan base wanted them to do this, this,

1101
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 3: this and this, and they did this, this, this and this.

1102
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: They picked the right guys, They picked the right positions

1103
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: at the right spot in the draft. Unfortunately, that doesn't

1104
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: guarantee them anything, but it does make you feel better

1105
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 3: at this time.

1106
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 13: Of year, for sure. And there's a there's a holwists

1107
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 13: to certain rosters that you can look at right now

1108
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 13: and almost like you can poke at it and say, Okay,

1109
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 13: I can feel reasonably confident in saying that in October

1110
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 13: or November, this team's going to be having a really

1111
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 13: hard time because whatever, they just don't have the depth

1112
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 13: at this position, at that position. If you're the Bills. Yes, granted,

1113
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 13: there are injuries everywhere that can derail a season, but

1114
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 13: if I'm poking around in that defense, it's not as

1115
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 13: vulnerable as it was a year ago. Right, It's not

1116
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 13: going to cost you in a way that did a

1117
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 13: year ago. And I think that's the key. Where you

1118
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 13: look at the Eagles, you look at the Chiefs, you

1119
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 13: look at teams that are perpetually there, and a lot

1120
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 13: of times it's just quality depth. I mean, that was

1121
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 13: the hallmark of all those great Patriots teams, right there

1122
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 13: was a middle class to that roster that was really good.

1123
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 13: And I feel like the same thing you can now

1124
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 13: say about the Bills roster as well.

1125
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: All Right, let's look at it from the other side, though,

1126
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: because clearly you feel and look, it's hard to repeat

1127
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: in the NFL, we all know that, but clearly you

1128
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: feel like the Eagles might fall half a step off

1129
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: of where they were this past season as Super Bowl champions,

1130
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: to feel that the Bills will have enough bullets in

1131
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: the chamber to take care of them in the ultimate game.

1132
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: Is it an incremental fall here? I realize they've lost

1133
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: some free agents, you know, this offseason, But to what

1134
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: degree do you see maybe the the ever so slight

1135
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: incremental drop off from the Eagles?

1136
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 13: So I think you're just you're losing your advantage a

1137
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 13: little bit, just a little bit, but you're still better

1138
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 13: at it than anyone else. But what did almost every

1139
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 13: team who is following the trend do this offseason. They

1140
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 13: drafted running backs in the first one or two rounds

1141
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 13: of the draft. They drafted more offensive alignment, they drafted

1142
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 13: more defensive tackles.

1143
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: This is a this is.

1144
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 13: A chaser tail league. And I feel like everybody watched

1145
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 13: the Eagles build this massive, hefty roster at a time

1146
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 13: when everyone was very thin and very quick, and now

1147
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 13: everyone's quickly trying to do that, and so if you're

1148
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 13: the Eagles, you just kind of lose that that margin.

1149
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 13: It's almost like the A's in the Billy Bean era,

1150
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 13: where it's like, Okay, now everybody else wants guys you

1151
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 13: can get on base two, and so you're competing for

1152
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 13: those guys. You're competing for those players. And so I

1153
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 13: think that Philadelphia, while there was little bit of a

1154
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 13: brain drain. You lose your offensive coordinator, but I think

1155
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 13: you also just lost the that ability to be so

1156
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 13: much tougher than everybody else that it doesn't matter Now.

1157
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 13: I would say the playing field is probably a little

1158
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 13: bit more leveled on that front.

1159
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: So also last year and the Bills were one of

1160
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: the teams, but you look at Baltimore, the Ravens, and Philly,

1161
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: big physical running attacks, where it was a league that

1162
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: was throwing at sixty percent of the time or more

1163
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 3: more like sixty three percent of the time for a

1164
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 3: lot of years. Now the pendulum's starting to swing back

1165
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: in a real way. Running backs are being more active

1166
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 3: in them not only in the passing game, but also

1167
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 3: they're handing it off like old school. You think that's

1168
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 3: going to continue, Yeah, I think that was.

1169
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 13: One of the bull predictions. And forgive me, I don't

1170
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 13: have it in front of me to look up the

1171
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 13: exact year, but I think last year was the fewest

1172
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 13: number of passing attempts since I want to say, like

1173
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 13: two thousand and eight or two thousand and nine, and

1174
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 13: I expect that number to drop again this year because

1175
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 13: what was brilliant about Philadelphia was, Okay, unless you're the Bills,

1176
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 13: unless you're the Chiefs, unless you're these three or four

1177
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 13: teams with the quarterback who is Stano's level powerful, you're

1178
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 13: gonna lose games because of mistakes, and running the ball

1179
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 13: just takes that away. I mean, the Eagles cut down

1180
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 13: their passing attempts and thus passing related mistakes and turnovers

1181
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 13: by something like fifty percent from the year before, where

1182
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 13: they were trying, still trying to air it out, still

1183
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 13: trying to rpo their way out of problems like they

1184
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 13: were in the twenty twenty two Super Bowl, and they

1185
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 13: just created this ball control offense. And that's a trend

1186
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 13: that you're gonna see, I think, sweep through football again.

1187
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 13: That's why the Raiders went out and got Chip Kelly,

1188
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 13: who was doing that at Ohio State. Chip Kelly used

1189
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 13: to be an eighty player game guy. Now at Ohio

1190
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 13: State rewrote his entire kind of whatever character what we

1191
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 13: think of him as slow but game down, ball control.

1192
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 13: This is how the NFL is gonna look this year.

1193
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: I think the one that opened a lot of eyes

1194
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: here in Western New York that you had was that

1195
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: James Cook will sign a contract, and you had him

1196
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: at twenty million per year. He's only asking for fifteen.

1197
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if they have to go that high,

1198
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: but I guess I'm gonna play a little Devil's advocate here, Connor,

1199
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: because I think the the main sticking point for the

1200
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: Bills as an organization is if you look at some

1201
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: of those players at the top of the pecking order

1202
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: in terms of average annual salary, we're talking three hundred

1203
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: carry a year. Guys, you know, whether it's Derrick, Henry,

1204
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, I mean run down the list, and Cook

1205
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: doesn't get that kind of a workload. I mean, his

1206
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: high water mark is two thirty seven two years ago

1207
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 2: and he was only two oh seven on the carry

1208
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: count last year. You know, when he had he was

1209
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: enormously productive in terms of touchdowns, but in terms of

1210
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 2: the workload. I think that's where the disconnect is right

1211
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: now between the Bills and Cook. How do you see

1212
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: them bridging that gap?

1213
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 13: Well, I would wonder too if I'm Cook, if the

1214
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 13: if the NFL continues to go this way, can I

1215
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 13: guarantee that I'm only carrying the ball like cause again,

1216
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 13: we're not gonna just stop at two ten. It's not

1217
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 13: like a pitcher in Major League basement where it's like, Okay,

1218
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 13: you've reached this number and this is kind of what

1219
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 13: we paid you for. It's November, it's December. Maybe Josh

1220
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 13: is a little banged up. Maybe we have to run

1221
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 13: the ball thirty forty times in game in order to survive.

1222
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 13: And you're just such a vital part, and you're such

1223
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 13: an electric part of this offense that it's like I

1224
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 13: look at the running back market now is sort of

1225
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 13: this little sweet spot where it's maybe like quarterbacks in

1226
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 13: twenty ten, eleven, twelve, where you almost just don't look

1227
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 13: at the granular and you just say, Okay, this guy's

1228
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 13: got a leapfrog this guy. It's the only way that

1229
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 13: it makes sense. And that's the only way that you

1230
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 13: get this guy into camp, and that's the only way

1231
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 13: that you get this guy happy. And I feel like

1232
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 13: we're in this little miniature sweet spot for them where

1233
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 13: sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and go.

1234
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 13: And I think, if I'm James Cook, I want that

1235
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 13: security because it's not going to last forever. And I

1236
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 13: would say by next year or two years from now.

1237
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 13: Let's just say, for example, Ashton genty comes out and

1238
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 13: only has like seven or eight hundred yards this year,

1239
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 13: not a great yards per carry, and team sour on

1240
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 13: the running game.

1241
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 3: Again.

1242
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 13: Well, all of a sudden, you're back out with you know,

1243
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 13: out of favor in the contract negotiations. You're not as

1244
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 13: hot anymore. And so I think these guys, you know,

1245
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 13: they want to maximize their window.

1246
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: So you also, and you predicted that the New Orleans

1247
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 3: Saints will have the first pick of the draft. And

1248
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,959
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's not really one of the limbs

1249
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: you climbed out. That is a predictions. I don't know

1250
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: if it's bold or not, but I do I agree

1251
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 3: with it. You also, you're more bullish on the Cowboys,

1252
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: the Jets, the Seahawks, the Raiders. You think those teams

1253
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: are gonna be a little bit better than their advertised

1254
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 3: You think Dallas is gonna be able to win more,

1255
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 3: you know, half of their games, maybe even Jets a

1256
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: little bit better than the seller in the in the East.

1257
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 3: Give us an idea of why you think maybe the

1258
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 3: Jets and the Cowboys are gonna maybe be a little

1259
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 3: better than what we anticipated.

1260
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, the Jets and the Cowboys in particular. You just

1261
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 13: look at the rosters up and down right, and the

1262
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 13: Jets are gonna have less of a burden that I

1263
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 13: think they play like a lot of one o'clock games,

1264
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 13: the NFC East or the AFC East. Sorry, And you

1265
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 13: guys know this the way that the schedule breaks down.

1266
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 13: For example, like the Patriots have a cake walk for

1267
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 13: the first half of the season, and so I think

1268
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 13: that in cakewalking air quotes, right, all these games are

1269
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 13: gonna be tough, but a lot of win games in

1270
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 13: the first half of the season, whereas the Jets get

1271
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 13: a lot of those opponents in the back half of

1272
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 13: the season. I think if they can survive and justin

1273
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 13: Fields gives you a chance to just win some of

1274
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 13: those games with their legs the way the Jets didn't

1275
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 13: have those opportunities last year. And it's just a really

1276
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 13: good roster, Like I mean, Sauce Gardner had a bad

1277
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 13: year last year, but a lot of people had a

1278
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 13: bad year last year. He was the defensive Rookie of

1279
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 13: the Year the year before. You know Quinn Williams. There's

1280
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 13: not a lot of holes on that roster, and if

1281
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 13: that offensive line is even close to short up, you

1282
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 13: really like what they can do in Dallas. I mean,

1283
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 13: they were playing the Commanders tight down the stretch last year.

1284
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 13: I think they beat the Commanders in overtime last year

1285
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 13: with Cooper Rush. I mean, this is a team that

1286
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 13: now gets Dak Prescott back. And I don't care who

1287
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 13: the head coaches. I didn't necessarily love the hire, but

1288
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Speaker 13: you have really good star players at three important critical positions.

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Speaker 13: I think that's going to be enough to win you

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Speaker 13: enough games where I think they're over under from MGM

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Speaker 13: was like eight and a half games. I mean, I

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Speaker 13: would probably take the over on that one for sure.

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Speaker 2: As far as barn goes, you had Brandon being among

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Speaker 2: your top six Executive of the Year candidates. I gotta

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01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: be honest, though, I was surprised to see the balance

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Speaker 2: of the AFC West in this also. I mean all

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Speaker 2: four guys. Look, I know you got probably four Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame coaches in that division, but John Spytek, with

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Speaker 2: all due respect, has a lot of work to do

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Speaker 2: with that roster. I know they get Geno Smith, gent's

1301
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: supposed to help him on the offensive side of the ball,

1302
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: but the defense needs a boatload of work. Like, how

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01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: do you see him kind of factoring in? Does does

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: a seven or eight win season put him in the conversation?

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Speaker 2: I guess that's what I'm asking.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, because because you're looking at the like

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Speaker 13: the team has to have a long way to go

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Speaker 13: right and sometimes as voters, and I'm not one, but

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Speaker 13: you lose sight of the granular and you kind of

1310
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 13: chase whatever is you know, pretty out there and you're saying, oh, wow,

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01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 13: this team had four wins last year. They're picking at

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Speaker 13: six or whatever, and now they're you know, picking twenty

1313
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Speaker 13: two or twenty three this year, Ashton Jenny's offensive Rookie

1314
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Speaker 13: of the Year. Like is, as a potential Executive of

1315
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Speaker 13: the Year candidate, you kind of have to have either

1316
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 13: an offensive or defensive Rookie of Year candidate or you

1317
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 13: have to be close, right, you have to have a

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Speaker 13: guy that's in the running for it, and so I

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01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 13: just think genty is one of those guys that could

1320
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Speaker 13: come out and run for fifteen hundred yards. Gino Smith

1321
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 13: can finally give you some adequate quarterback play. And the

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01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 13: Raiders and the Patriots are kind of the two teams

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Speaker 13: that I think could look the most different than they

1324
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 13: were a year ago, which it's just going to get

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Speaker 13: some voters looking in that direction. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 13: they're going to make the playoffs, but I'm saying that

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Speaker 13: they're a lot closer than they were a year ago.

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Speaker 13: And I think we kind of forget how bumbling that

1329
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 13: team looked with you know, Antonio Pierson, kind of that

1330
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 13: strange front office structure that they had going on there.

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 13: So I don't know, I think that a lot of

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Speaker 13: times you have to think like a voter at the

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Speaker 13: end of the season for those.

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Speaker 3: One of the interesting things we just had a couple

1335
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, we had the schedule release. It's a

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01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: big deal and we spent a lot of time on it. Dice.

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Speaker 3: We still are And one of the interesting things you

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01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: put in one of your predictions, do you think the

1339
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: NFL is going to leave the UK behind this season?

1340
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Speaker 3: After this coming season? What are your thoughts on the

1341
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 3: UK and European games in general? And you're thinking the

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Speaker 3: league is going to take a step back from that, Well, I.

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Speaker 13: Think that there's better markets for them, right because in

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 13: the UK, the time difference is such where you have

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01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 13: to in order to accommodate the American fan and the

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Speaker 13: UK fan, it's got to be like nine thirty in

1347
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 13: the morning Eastern time, right, which is a little bit

1348
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 13: of a hairy window. And the super Bowl, what is

1349
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 13: at six o'clock at night is on it generously at

1350
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 13: what midnight, one o'clock in the morning and UK time,

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Speaker 13: if I'm thinking about it. And so you have markets

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Speaker 13: like South America, for example, that are pretty close to

1353
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 13: the way that we have things in America, and you

1354
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 13: look at everybody's viewing that every sports league is viewing

1355
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,879
Speaker 13: that as untapped potential where you can get these guys

1356
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 13: and you can program down there at about the same

1357
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 13: hour versus you're gonna program us. And that's why we're

1358
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 13: seeing Brazil on opening weekend two years in a row.

1359
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Speaker 13: That's why they're getting kind of that plumb opportunity, because

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01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 13: what you're really trying to do is you're trying to

1361
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Speaker 13: time them up, sync them up with the American ecosystem

1362
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 13: and the way that we time things and the way

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01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 13: that we react to things. And so I think Latin

1364
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Speaker 13: America especially, but Australia is interesting too, right where they're

1365
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 13: so far ahead that some of our night games are

1366
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Speaker 13: in that sweet spot in that window for them in

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Speaker 13: the morning or you know, in the early afternoon when

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01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 13: they're kind of going about their days. So I think

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Speaker 13: that there are some other markets where the NFL might

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Speaker 13: be looking around and saying, like, okay, we got the UK.

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Speaker 13: They're not going anywhere, right, But do we really now

1372
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Speaker 13: want to put like this many games in one spot

1373
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 13: when there's all these other places that we can start

1374
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 13: sticking games and getting fans and globalizing the sports, especially

1375
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 13: with the Olympics coming up. In twenty twenty eight. I mean,

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Speaker 13: this is gonna be a massive push for the league

1377
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Speaker 13: to try to increase their visibility.

1378
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Speaker 2: All right, last one for me, counter you dip your

1379
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: toe in the Cisco and Ebert water here with your

1380
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: anticipated review of what the Holiday touchdown of Bill's Love

1381
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: Story movie is gonna look like, and you weren't supremely optimistic.

1382
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 2: And you know, I know the Chiefs one was what

1383
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 2: it was. I haven't seen it myself. We kind of

1384
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: have a little disdain for that team, as you might

1385
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 2: imagine in this neck of the woods. But you know, people,

1386
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 2: it's funny because we were talking about some of your

1387
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 2: bold predictions on the show late last week before we

1388
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: got you on, and you know, some people were commenting

1389
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 2: on social and they're just like, he hasn't even seen

1390
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 2: it yet. What's he talking about? So unless you have

1391
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 2: an advanced screening that we're unaware of, so let's fill

1392
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: us in.

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Speaker 13: I don't expect you guys to know this, but I'm

1394
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 13: a hallmark of ficionado all podcast that I do. With

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01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 13: some of my former colleagues from NFL Network, we hosted

1396
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 13: a live screening of the Chiefs Holiday Touchdown, So I

1397
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 13: consider myself a bit of an expert in this field.

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01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 13: I'm just a little bit worried. I'm coming through the

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01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 13: casting right now. I'm just looking at all the different

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01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 13: little bio markers of this movie, and I'm just you know,

1401
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 13: you got to reach out and you got to grab

1402
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 13: me on this one. I'm just I'm not sold right away.

1403
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 13: Doesn't feel like a traditional Hallmark movie, which I love.

1404
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 13: But I'm open. Right The one thing that I'll say

1405
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 13: about myself is I'm always willing to admit that I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the last one for me, for the last couple

1407
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: of years, we would be remiss if we didn't end

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01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 3: with a little bit of Aaron Rodgers talk. You think

1409
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 3: he's going to have a really good reason why he's

1410
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 3: not on a football team as of yet. Give me

1411
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: some possibilities to why he would be delaying.

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Speaker 13: Well, he has talked a little bit about people in

1413
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 13: his inner circle with health issues, and I think that

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Speaker 13: anytime something like that comes up for me, that's one

1415
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 13: of those things where you have to just take a

1416
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 13: step back and say, Okay, if this is the case,

1417
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 13: if this is someone who is caring for someone in

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01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 13: their inner circle, doesn't want to jump into the grind

1419
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 13: of training camp. Yet I think that's something that you

1420
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 13: have to respect about the guy. And really last year

1421
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 13: there was the trip to Egypt that everyone talks about,

1422
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 13: but I feel like also he was doing more, I

1423
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 13: want to say, he was doing more off season stuff

1424
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 13: with the team than even Lamar Jackson was doing with

1425
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 13: the Ravens. I mean, he was there for a long time,

1426
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 13: and I will say that most of the people, if

1427
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 13: you go back to the Jets and you talk to

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01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 13: those guys, really did like Aaron Rodgers. They liked having

1429
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 13: him there. And so I think that there's probably a

1430
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 13: little bit of a disconnect between public and private perception there.

1431
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 13: And I think we might go into the season being like, Okay,

1432
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 13: it kind of makes sense that he had to take

1433
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 13: this time for him and for himself. And that's just

1434
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 13: me reading the tea leaves based on what he said

1435
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 13: publicly so far.

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Speaker 2: Connor, thanks for the time, has always we appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy whatever offseason you are afforded, because we'll be ramping

1438
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: back up real soon as you well know. Thanks for the.

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Speaker 13: Time, all right, Thanks you two guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Connor or from SI dot com. Senior

1441
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 2: NFL writer. If you want to check out his hundred

1442
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: bold predictions for the twenty twenty five season, go to

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Speaker 2: si dot com. We'll take a break, be back with more.

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Speaker 2: Here on one Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health. It's

1445
01:12:50,680 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, what position on the Bills

1446
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: roster could use a proven veteran? In your mind, it's

1447
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,440
Speaker 2: a pretty airtight roster, but you've come up with some suggestions. Appreciated.

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Speaker 2: Eight h three zero five fifty one eighty eight five

1449
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Speaker 2: point fifty two five fifty. Back to the phones we go,

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: and to Mark in Jersey City.

1451
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 3: What's up?

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: Mark?

1453
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 3: Mark?

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01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: Are you there? Put him on hold and we'll get

1455
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: back to him. I wanted to check a couple of

1456
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: comments on the tweet sheet as well. And tweet sheets

1457
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Speaker 2: brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment

1458
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: moving company of the Buffalo Bills and NBCB says linebacker

1459
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: Milano is questionable due to his age and injuries, so

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01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 2: he would like to see a proven veteran there. So

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01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: I get it. You know, he his availability has been

1462
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: compromised the last couple of seasons. You know, first it

1463
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: was the broken leg in London two years ago, miss

1464
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: the rest of the season after Week five, and then

1465
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: last year as the unfortunate torn bicep tendon in a

1466
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: practice non contact and misses most of last season. Uh,

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01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,839
Speaker 2: you have got a pretty good backup in Dorian Williams.

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Speaker 2: But you know, if you want to proven veteran, I'll

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01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 2: listen to that because the guys behind the top three,

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: the guys behind Bernard Milano and Dorian Williams are Joe

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01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: Andrees and Edie Ulefotio, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 2: you're talking about young players with ability but short on experience,

1473
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 2: so you know there is some of that that just

1474
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: can't go by the board. You have Bail Inspector two.

1475
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: He's been here for four years, so you know a

1476
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 2: guy that knows knows his system, but he's had problems

1477
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 2: with his availability as well.

1478
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm promises to that and we already had one

1479
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 3: call who's thought. You know, a larger linebacker would help too,

1480
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: But just get the best one, right if you If

1481
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 3: you're going to do that, bring bringing the best guy,

1482
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: whether he's big or small or faster, whatever, you get

1483
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 3: the guy he thinks going to help. Yeah, the most.

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01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: Let's jump back on the phone lines. I think Mark

1485
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: in Jersey City's ready. Now what do you got first? Mark?

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 14: Apologies, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. I think defensive

1487
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 14: tackle is still in need, not glaring, but de Kwon's

1488
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 14: making a bit of money being always talks about operating

1489
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 14: costs for injury replacements, practice squad, the whole bit. And

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01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 14: to me, he's the most logical guy. You just drafted

1491
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 14: such a glut there, even a guy like a Casey

1492
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 14: Rogers just claimed that means I just don't think they're

1493
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 14: satisfied there. You look at a guy like DJ Reader

1494
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 14: who looks like the same situation, but he's three years

1495
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 14: younger and they drafted his replacement in the first round.

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01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 14: So I think that he's probably the guy that might

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 14: be signed as on another roster somewhere, or you know,

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01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 14: gets released at some point camp whatever being mixed pretty

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01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 14: stage trades during the cutdowns and whatnot, or get draft

1500
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 14: capital or pick up a guy. I mean, Ryan Bates

1501
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 14: was a pick swap for a guy that never played

1502
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 14: for the Eagles, So that's my idea. Thanks for taking

1503
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 14: my call, guys.

1504
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you've got a guy on the market,

1505
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 3: You've got a guy like Rokwon Davis. Oh, ray Kwon

1506
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 3: Davis is out there as a defensive tackle. You know.

1507
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 3: Then you got guys that have actually been with the

1508
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 3: Bills or you know, Austin Phillips, Qwynn Jefferson, Lynvall, Joseph

1509
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 3: or on that list as Shawn Williams was here last

1510
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 3: year at this time, right, So they've they've kind of

1511
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 3: run through the roster of available defensive tackles who are

1512
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 3: out on the on the street, available who are fresh

1513
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 3: out of the league or trying to get back in

1514
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 3: or you know, have been with the team last year.

1515
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean Jordan Phillips, I mean, think about

1516
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 3: Jordan Phillips, Austin Johnson, Lynn Vall, Joseph. That's you know,

1517
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 3: two guys eleven, ten and fifteen years in the league.

1518
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ Reader sign with the Lions, so he's no

1519
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 2: longer on the market. He was out there for a

1520
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: while and that was kind of a shrewd signing. Quentin

1521
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: Jefferson's still out there by the Lions. One guy on

1522
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: the Lions who's out there now that I always liked.

1523
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: He's played more of a big end position though it's

1524
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 2: John Kaminsky I always thought he was a good, try,

1525
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: hard player, know what you're gonna get every week. Not

1526
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: enormously gifted, which is part of the reason why he's

1527
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 2: still out there, but lunch pale type player, you know

1528
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1529
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm for for these veterans.

1530
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 3: The one thing we all you know, I think we

1531
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 3: all kind of know it. But you're talking about these

1532
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 3: worst and finger quotes proven veteran we're asking about today

1533
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 3: at all these positions. What you do have is the

1534
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 3: word proven is under sold here. You know exactly what

1535
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 3: they are. The problem is their upside is what it is.

1536
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 3: It's that's not there, and they're not going to get

1537
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: the better they are what exactly what you're going to get.

1538
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 3: You hope they're exactly what they have been in the

1539
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 3: last year they've been there. You're not expecting them to

1540
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 3: come in and all of a sudden like wow, we

1541
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 3: tapped into something. You're just not gonna get that done.

1542
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 3: So that the upside for these guys, and this even

1543
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 3: in this question is it is exactly what it is.

1544
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 3: So you're not gonna find a guy to come in

1545
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 3: and tilt the scale that much.

1546
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just kind of looking for a veteran player

1547
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: that can.

1548
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 3: Hold the fort for you you can trust. Yeah, you know.

1549
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 2: Connor On the tweets, she says, if you want my

1550
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: honest opinion, I would say none. For probably the first

1551
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: time in a very long time, the Bills have an

1552
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 2: incredible amount of veteran leadership at all positions. This might

1553
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 2: be the most well rounded roster being and McDermott have

1554
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 2: ever put together. It's like we said, it's it's pretty airtight.

1555
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing today. We're probably splitting

1556
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: hairs in the grand scheme of things.

1557
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're talking about backup quarterbacks.

1558
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, come on, I mean that's indication enough.

1559
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 2: But I get where you're coming from. Connor. Yeah, it's

1560
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: good to be right.

1561
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 3: I hate talking like that. I mean, it's like June

1562
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 3: second and we're he's the best roster of all time.

1563
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 3: He got right, exactly right. So yeah, there's a little

1564
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 3: bit of that, but it's pretty true at this point

1565
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 3: of the year, and I think most teams feel closer

1566
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 3: to this point to this than they do it any

1567
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 3: other time of the year. Right soon, they want a

1568
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 3: training camp on like six guys went down great, you know,

1569
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 3: so you're never more than you are right now. You're

1570
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 3: in OTAs everybody's running around looking fresh in shape.

1571
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but even with our conversation earlier this hour

1572
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 2: with counter Or from SI dot Com, I mean he

1573
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 2: he's impressed with Buffalo's roster because he feels they have

1574
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 2: stopgap options right at just about every position on the

1575
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: roster in the event of an injury to take a starter.

1576
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 3: The problem is a rash of injuries at the same position.

1577
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: That's what can kill you.

1578
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: That's what you can never really prepare for.

1579
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 2: Chad on the tweets sheet says safety, because we don't

1580
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: have a stud safety at this point. All right, I mean,

1581
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: I'll listen to that. I understand why. It's a position

1582
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: that since Hyde and Poyer left, has been in a

1583
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: little bit of a churn. You know, there hasn't been

1584
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: a lock stock and barrel. I guess wrap you would

1585
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: be the closest thing to that. But beyond that, yeah,

1586
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from there. Andrew says, if

1587
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: I had to choose one position, I would probably choose punter. Reason.

1588
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 2: You need an experienced guy at the position who can

1589
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: put the ball where you need the ball to go.

1590
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: Especially with these new rules. Well that's less so in

1591
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: the punting game than in the kickoff game. And Steve

1592
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 2: has said this before. How many times is the Bills

1593
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: punter trotting out there forty times a season? Forty five?

1594
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 3: Not even I mean right.

1595
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 2: There was one year, I think it was two years ago,

1596
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: thirty eight punts for like to a game, Sam Martin.

1597
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a little bit of that in there.

1598
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 3: Mostly what you need from the punter is when you air,

1599
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 3: when you get out, air it out. Yeah, but there's

1600
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 3: a skill set that sometimes gets lost. One, you gotta

1601
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 3: get the thing off fast, otherwise you're eating it. Number

1602
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 3: two is you need to have a repertoire of punts

1603
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 3: with an Aussie kick is now required and.

1604
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: The point down.

1605
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 3: You also have to be able to spiral it and

1606
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 3: turn it over up in the air and get it,

1607
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 3: get it out of there and get as much as

1608
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 3: you can. And then of course you need a directional

1609
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 3: But I think really the coffin the quote unquote coffin

1610
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 3: corner they used to talk about that's gone away. Now

1611
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 3: the punters hit that Aussie kick and they hit it

1612
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 3: straight up in the air and they drop it down

1613
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 3: knowing it's gonna bounce straighter up.

1614
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 2: In the air right away from the goal line, right.

1615
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 3: So there's that technique as well. All that stuff goes

1616
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 3: into it, but the number one job is having a

1617
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 3: strong leg obviously, but also it's you gotta get the

1618
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 3: thing off.

1619
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 2: It will be an interesting punter competition between Brad Robbins

1620
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 2: and Jake Kamarta, you know, two guys that I believe

1621
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: both were drafted, so yeah, we've been There are only

1622
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: six punters in the league right now on NFL roster

1623
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: who were drafted, and the Bills have two of them

1624
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: in Jake Kamarta and Brad Robbins. I think it's going

1625
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: to be a pretty fierce competition. Quite frankly, you got

1626
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: two very talented guys.

1627
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's no Ray guy out there, you know

1628
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 3: on this roster to skip like been here for twelve

1629
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: years and these guys are in. The guys are bouncing around.

1630
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 3: I think that's a position of flux this year for

1631
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 3: the Bills. So I think that is going to be

1632
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 3: a heated Company's.

1633
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: Probably going to come down to who's more consistent and

1634
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: who's more effective in the preseason games.

1635
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 3: They both have to have the skill set of being

1636
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 3: able to hold for the kicker. Yep, that too, so

1637
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 3: the whole thing.

1638
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: But I think it'll be a pretty one of the

1639
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 2: more ardent punter competitions that we have seen at training camp.

1640
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: Dean on the tweets sheet says, tight end. I like

1641
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: Knox and have hope for Kincaid, but a veteran that

1642
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: could help the room to learn better techniques and routes.

1643
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: Most of all, when we need a truly reliable catch

1644
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 2: for a first down, we have someone to call on.

1645
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: The veteran doesn't need to be full time, just experienced.

1646
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 2: So Dean's coming from the angle of you know, work

1647
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: him in here, there and everywhere. He doesn't have to

1648
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 2: start over Kincaid or even ahead of Knocks, but.

1649
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 3: I have Yeah, you're not getting Knocks or Kinkaid off

1650
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: out of the lineup. But if something happens to one

1651
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 3: of them like kin Kid did last year, maybe if

1652
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 3: you have a better third guy, kink doesn't have to

1653
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: play through that injury and gets back and comes back healthier.

1654
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: At the end, right, Yeah, instead of fighting.

1655
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 3: So instead of fighting it and not really having a

1656
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: guy that you feel I can go in there and

1657
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 3: play games and pull Kinkaid out of the lineup. Maybe

1658
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 3: he got a good enough guy, or a steady enough guy,

1659
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: or a versatile enough guy to go without and let

1660
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 3: a guy heal up and get back on the field.

1661
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 3: I could see that scenario happening.

1662
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: Jackson Hawes is the draft choice at the tight end

1663
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: position from Georgia Tech by way of Yale, and he

1664
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 2: does He's kind of a do everything tight end, jack

1665
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 2: of all trades type, so I'm curious to see how

1666
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: he fits in. I really don't think his game is

1667
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 2: going to show up until they're in full pads, although

1668
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: he has had some good practices out here in terms

1669
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 2: of catching the football, maybe even better than people anticipated.

1670
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see what his trajectory looks like

1671
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 2: in his rookie season, because I think there's more than

1672
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 2: meets the eye there. I believe. I think some people

1673
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: scouted him and profiled him, you know, as the best

1674
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: blocking tight end in the draft, and people think, oh,

1675
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 2: traditional inline guy, can't do much else. But I'm watching

1676
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: this guy catch balls, you know, fifteen twenty yards down field,

1677
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: give you little yards after catch, and I realized, you know,

1678
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: his competition isn't going to be the same that he's

1679
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 2: going to experience now. But still, in all I think

1680
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: I think he's a bigger option than maybe some might anticipate,

1681
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: and I'm curious to see how he progresses through his

1682
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: rookie season. And then they have the undrafted kid Khaliki Latu,

1683
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 2: who's like six six and runs better than I think

1684
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: thought he would. And then obviously you've got the holdover

1685
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 2: from last year's practice squad, Zach Davidson, who's also six,

1686
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: pass catcher by trade and can really run at sixty six.

1687
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 3: Davidson is a guy who's a little bit like you know,

1688
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 3: it's just he's a big wide receiver. He's he's like

1689
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 3: Gasicki Kasicki exactly, and he's kind of he's like one

1690
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 3: dimensional a little bit too much, which is why I

1691
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 3: think that's kept him off the field a little bit

1692
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 3: last year, which is you know why you got guys

1693
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 3: like Kincaige's got to go.

1694
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's not forget you had Quinn Morris as

1695
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: a restricted free agent this offseason. They chose not to

1696
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: tender him to retain his rights. He became a free agent,

1697
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: eventually signed with Jacksonville, and then you see the Bills

1698
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 2: draft Jackson Hawes, who I think is the odds on

1699
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: favorite to be the third tight end, you know, and

1700
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 2: then whatever happens with roster numbers happens. But more often

1701
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: than not the last few years, the Bills have kept

1702
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 2: three tight ends because they have a fullback in Reggie

1703
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 2: Gilliam that they keep at the running back position and

1704
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 2: he's you know, you look at it late last year, Steve,

1705
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: it's a lot more eye formation down the stretch. Last year,

1706
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: like the last four or five games of the regular season,

1707
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: you saw more and more and more ie formation from

1708
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 2: them in the run game with Reggie as the lead back. Now,

1709
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: some of that could have been opponents specific, but I

1710
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 2: felt like we saw it too often over the last

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01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: five games, regardless of the opponent. It's like they wanted

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01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: to feature that part of their run game down the stretch.

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01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: And maybe it was because they knew they had the

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01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: division locked up already and they wanted to put more

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01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: stuff on film. It could have just been that, but

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01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: maybe they feel they have found something and they can

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01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 2: use it even more this year. I'm curious to see

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01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: where that goes too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all that's on the table, I'm sure some of

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01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 3: it was part of all of that, right, I mean

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01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 3: it's the same thing. I mean that some of it

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01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 3: was analytics and making sure you get numbers in their

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01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 3: stats where they say, okay, even they still do this

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01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 3: in the raidar seeing now they're doing it more, we

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01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: got to be ready for it. Some of that was

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01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 3: going on. But also you're they're never gonna do stuff

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01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 3: they don't think gives them a chance to win, and

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01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 3: if it meant the tight end stuff and handing it off,

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01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: then they were gonna do it unless you know they

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01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 3: still they still went four and two in the last

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01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 3: six games, so they were doing a lot of things right.

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01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 3: And the week eighteen loss, I mean, come on, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, one final segment to go.

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Speaker 2: We'll get some final thoughts on the tweet sheet in

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Speaker 2: terms of the position on the Bill's roster that you

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01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: think could use a proven vet still taking phone calls too.

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Speaker 2: We're back in a flash here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us All right, back here on one Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you, final segment of

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01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 2: the show and some final thoughts on the tweets sheet.

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Speaker 2: As we've been asking you all day, what position on

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01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: the bills rosters do you believe could use a proven vet,

1744
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: you know, a steadying presence, not some kind of all

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01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 2: pro guy. We're not expecting that at this point in time,

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01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 2: but maybe some steadying presence for that position that could

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01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 2: represent some valuable depths should there be some injuries from

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01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: large Tim Horton's backup quarterback. This team is good enough

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01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 2: to win if Josh is out for a week or two. Also,

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01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 2: we only play two linebackers, but I'd like a depth

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01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 2: proven linebacker too. And these are two positions that have

1752
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 2: been mentioned already.

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01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 3: Stane. That's as realistic as you can see. If Josh

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01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: goes down just for a minute and you need to

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01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 3: got to start two games or whatever, Yeah, okay, I

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01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 3: can see that. But you should be able to run

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01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: your offense for two games with the skill set of

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01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 3: the guys you got in the building and this team.

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01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 3: Depending on which two games it is, well right, you

1760
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 3: should be able to lump some people up, even with

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01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 3: your backup quarterback if it's just for a couple of games,

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01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 3: depending on what stretch of the of the schedule it is.

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01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, you know you're you're sitting here

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01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 3: looking uh okay, So if you get Houston and Pittsburgh,

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01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 3: you might have a shot at that, right. Yeah, if

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01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: it's Kansas City, Miami, I don't know, you know, you know,

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01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 3: you look at the schedule yourself. I don't know, we'll

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01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 3: see that, but that, yeah, that's pretty realistic there.

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01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for all the contributions today. So it's some good

1770
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 2: discussion on this because I think there is some depth,

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01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: you know, that you can always add. And who knows,

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01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean's done it before. He's made ads in August. Heck,

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01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:43,879
Speaker 2: he's made ads in September.

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01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,919
Speaker 3: Later. The roster's gonna fluctuate.

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01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it for us today. Join us tomorrow at one.

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Speaker 2: We'll have full coverage of OTA practices with media availability

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Speaker 2: tomorrow

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Speaker 5: Now