WEBVTT - March Q&A 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid verbal. Come that for me. I'm 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.680 a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.639 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.040 for day? Edith State is that woo whoom? And Dan 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:21.200 and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.159 My name is ty Hildebrand. Joining me over there in 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.520 rainy yet still fatherly New York City. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.320 My man feeling a bit under the weather. Dan Rubinstein, sir, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:31.800 how you doing? 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:37.040 I am reinvigorated. Tyler Okay, I am feeling good. It's 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.080 it's been a successful day both as a father and 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.160 as a general human. We've got good college basketball on TV. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.080 We're recording this at around five pm Eastern. Yeah. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.320 Man, hey, dogs are barking out there. The dogs are 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.080 barking in your brackets. Hope you picked a bunch of underdogs. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.080 Hope you got in on the solid verbal bracket pool. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.920 We had I lost count several hundred entries that. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:01.720 Yeah, it's pushing into a thousand. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.400 Yeah, with a crush at the last second, as per usual, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.200 but started off on the right foot by killing off 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:12.320 one of my NCAA's survivor pool entries in Louisville going down. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:18.680 Loullville, loa. But yeah, off to a good start. Absolutely. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.800 It is a fun time of year as what we 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.120 have teams practicing, you know, spring practice. I know Oregon 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.640 I think is on a break right now. Has Notre 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.959 Dame started? I have no idea. It's a good to 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.560 go there. I have no idea. That's a good answer. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.520 Has Penn State started? No idea. Yeah, we have a 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.160 number of questions both about college football and I don't know, 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.760 it just felt right now. I'm just getting lazier and 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.640 lazier about what topics I ask for. I just got 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.280 a haircut, Like, all right, ask about haircuts? Newborn baby, yep, 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.480 check got that going on in my life. We got 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.400 a lot of shows about TV shows, which I didn't 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.000 ask for, but we got a lot of that. We 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.080 got some grilling questions. Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff. Oh, 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.360 I said third dates. I was just curious to see 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.840 how people would take that. But we have third date 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.040 questions ty terrific, terrific. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.000 Well, as you know, it is the college football off season, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.400 and what we're trying to do is basically what we 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.600 did last year, where we did one Q and a 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.239 show per month. These are typically among the more popular 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.440 offseason shows that we do because we get to give 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.720 back to the verbaler hood and answer some questions that 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:21.360 are out there. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:22.680 Dan. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.040 As you know, you put out some specific topics of 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.640 which we received a number of different questions, but we 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.640 also got a bunch of college football ones. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.120 And I think that's where we're where we're going to start, 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.639 because that's where we typically like to start. And maybe 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.720 we'll even play a little bit of a chime as 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.560 we go through this to alert people when we maybe 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.560 make that awkward transition over to non football or more 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.760 non football material solid verbal after hours, all right, shall 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:53.000 we dance? Ah, Let's congratulations, Skippy, you've got mail, You've 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:57.200 got mail. On the solid verbal, let's dust off that 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.480 sound Dan. As often as we can, we like to 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.720 pay homage. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.240 Thank you to those of you who write in Solverble 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.520 at gmail dot com, to those of you who tweet us, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.080 who send us notes on Facebook, on Instagram, on Reddit, 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.120 you name it, anywhere you put the messages. We did 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.920 our best to go through those, digest them, and for 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.280 the first time ever, we actually went through and highlighted 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.639 some of our favorites before hitting the record button, which 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.000 means we're growing as adults. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.760 I think that's right. I think that means what was 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.120 the I guess this is growing up. That's right. Have 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.080 these moments every now and then we have our damn 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.040 at moments, and here we are. Do you want to 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.560 start with transfer talk? I want to start with Quinn. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:47.520 Quinn says, does Tate Martel being eligible immediately at Miami 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:52.480 opened the door for more slash all transfers not having 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.000 to sit out a year in the future. So Tate Martel, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:02.680 highly regarded recruit from Ohio State, after the coaching move, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.880 after the Justin Fields transfer, Tate Martel decides that he's 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.440 going to go elsewhere, picks Miami, files a case with 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:14.440 the NCAA, is granted immediate eligibility. This is now, I guess, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:19.479 the third high profile transfer in just two seasons to 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.960 be named immediately eligible, starting with Shaye Patterson, Justin Fields, 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:24.920 and now Tate Martel. 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.120 Dan, does this open the door for more of the same? 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:36.920 It's slippery slope tie right? Yes and no. My assumption, well, 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:38.680 first of all, we don't know what was in Tate 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.480 Martell's appeal. We have somewhat of an idea that what 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.280 was in Justin Field's appeal, and we have a good 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.800 idea of what was in Shape Patterson's appeal. I would say, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.719 assume the three most the highest profile cases of appealing 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.880 for immediate eligibility in the past couple of years, right, correct. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.080 I hope I'm not leaving anybody out, but I might be. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.320 I don't know. So one, we don't know what's in 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.839 Tate Martell's actual appeal, but we do know that his 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.600 head coach retired, and we do know that a quarterback 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.960 transferred in which doesn't feel like a good enough reason 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:14.480 to be immediately eligible elsewhere. But without fully knowing the case, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.880 it's hard to fully comment. I also want to believe 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.520 that many quarterbacks want to succeed at the place they go, 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.719 that it's not their choice to leave to start over 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.560 again with a new system, with new friends, new classes, 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.760 new dating, new social life, learning everything new. And I 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.719 understand that for somebody as high profile as these guys, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.400 it's in their heads a kind of business decision. I 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.320 got to start. I got to put myself in position 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.200 to be seen and to succeed and maybe get the 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:46.880 attention of NFL scouts. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.240 The old silas red business decision. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.400 Sure. Correct, Yes, but there is a part of me 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.159 that says, well, this sort of changes the dynamic where 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.679 a player is unhappy and he just leaves. I don't 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.480 believe players want to be unhappy. I don't players. I 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.440 don't think players want to just go when they're like 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.680 not happy for a day. I don't think a lot 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.320 of these decisions are just impulsive and I'm not happy here, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.560 I want to start there. I think a lot goes 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.479 into these decisions. So to look at it as if 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.400 like the paradigm is changing and college football is ruined, 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.159 I think sort of misses it a little bit. That said, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.800 I understand the fear. I understand we're like, we have 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.400 this four star receiver and he's not starting, he's gonna leave. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.880 We have this five star quarterback and he's not starting 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.039 as a true freshman, he's gonna leave. It sucks to 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:37.039 have like your future be in doubt constantly. I just 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.800 don't I'm somewhere I understand that because if an Oregon 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.560 player were to do this because he was unhappy sitting 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.800 behind an incumbent starter, like, oh that sucks. It was 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.880 nice to have that depth and have him be the 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.480 future someday. But at the same time, you're like, kid 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.599 realized he made a mistake when he was sixteen, or 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.839 kid couldn't have seen his offensive coordinator leaving, or his 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:03.200 coach retiring, or you know, they're leaving their conference, you know, 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.120 all sorts of changes that are out of his hands. 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.840 So I get both sides of it. I really think 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.840 it's overblown that suddenly we're going to see, you know, 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.640 all these players transferring without having to sit out a year. 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.480 I think people are just panicking with sort of a 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:20.080 recency bias. It's also March. It is also a lot 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:20.440 of panic. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.400 We got a question from Derek who asks, to your point, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.720 is a transfer rule out of control? Are there any 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.560 real consequences for leaving early? And I think I agree 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.480 with you now a little bit of recency bias if 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.400 you want to call it that, given that, again, we've 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:40.440 had three very high profile quarterbacks in under two seasons 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.560 now transfer and be ruled immediately eligible. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.000 And to reset things, this is Tate Martel immediately eligible 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.840 transferring from Ohio State, former five star quarterback to Miami 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.280 to Miami. Yes, thank you. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:58.280 I don't think that we are spiraling out of control 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.920 with this rule. But there's no doubt if you look 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.960 at what's transpired over the last year or so now, 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.480 that it seems more attainable. If you're a recruit out 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.360 there and you're thinking I might want to go elsewhere, 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.880 it seems like this is at least maybe more doable 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.560 than it's been in recent memory. So the door has 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:20.640 been somewhat opened. I am with you, though I don't 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.840 think we're quite at the point where it's gotten out 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.520 of control. And I do think college football is going 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.280 to need to take a look at this and figure 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.600 out a way that you can be fair to players 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.960 right in a way that you know gives them the 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.640 amount of flexibility. Maybe not to the same degree as 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.240 coaches who can just leave whenever they want and go elsewhere, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.959 but Dixie chicks room to make the big mistake that 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.559 sort of thing. College football needs to figure out a 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:44.920 way to accommodate that. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.760 And I think there are probably considerations we don't know 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.720 about in these appeals process, that is, that are presented 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.400 to the NCAA. If you know, a player gets as 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.440 good grades and he has never had discipline issues, and 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.319 there are extenuating circumstances outside of what the public knows, 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.400 be it with and you know, these sorts of things 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.040 do leak if it's an illness in the family or whatever. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.319 There there's always more to the story than sure, And 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.280 this is my assumption. Then, yeah, I was unhappy. I 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.240 want to go to this school now and I want 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.280 to play tomorrow. Like, I don't think it's a Violet 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:18.200 Boregard situation. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.480 Well, there is usually more nuance to a situation than 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.360 what you read in the news, and that's probably the 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.400 case here. There just has to be a happy medium 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.920 between the old rule where you can't go anywhere without 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.360 sitting out a year and a full on transfer market. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.640 And I don't think we're going to basketball either. I 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.400 don't think it's going to be a situation where you 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.199 know somebody's going to play for three four different schools. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.880 I think that the Tate for CA's and shout out 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.199 to all the Tate quarterbacks out there that are a 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.760 little bit shorter for we're going to have to make 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.640 these jokes if there's a new Tate coming along in 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.720 twenty twenty one or something. Sure, but it was unfortunate 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.640 that you know, this is the start of this conversation 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.520 another tape transferring from the West coast. So yeah, I 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.920 think that's right, And I really don't see this as 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.679 you know, the breaking of the dam. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.080 Breaking of the dam. All right, let's move on, let's 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:17.319 go to Graylen. He says, what would be more surprising 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.480 Arkansas finishing in the top three in the SEC West 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:28.160 or Alabama finishing somewhere other than first in the West. Daniel, Yeah, 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.360 I think this is sort of a no brainer. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.520 I think Arkansas finishing in the top three. I hate 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:40.640 when the radio hosts say I will eat my hat. Yeah, 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.760 I will eat my shoe. But Arkansas finishing in the 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.880 top three this year would mean for some pretty apocalyptic 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.520 goings on in the SEC West, which I don't want 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.960 to joke about. I don't want to run through. But 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:59.679 you're you're obviously talking about weird unforeseen coaching changes and injuries. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.120 Because with what Arkansas put on the field last year, 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.599 I get it changing to a more open offense and 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.320 a pro style system and getting you know, Chad Morris's 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.199 guys in the program, and they had what they bring 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.640 in a top twenty five recruiting classes year nine ten 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.840 eleven blue chip kids coming in including a four star 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.560 quarterback and some transfers at quarterback including Nick Starkele from 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.520 Texas A and m Ben Hicks from SMU. There's just 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:27.200 it's not there. 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.840 It's no well, hey right now, oh and eight in 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:35.000 conference last year, two and eight. Overall, you look around 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.840 the west side of the SEC, Alabama's Alabama, lsu A, 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:44.000 and M Auburn, all of them are pretty stocked. I'm 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.199 not going to say Auburn is looking like a ten 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.040 win team, but all those teams are already starting from 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.199 a place where they're pretty stocked. Mississippi State and Ole 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.040 Miss Yeah, I think both in a much better spot 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:01.120 than than Arkansas. Again, amid the transition, you would expect 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:05.160 some bumps, but to jump into the top three, like 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:09.240 you said, it would somehow need to involve an apocalyptic scenario. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.400 I agree and twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.280 It's conversation we can have, especially if there's a promising quarterback. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.880 But right now, it's going to take a lot. It's 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.880 going to take a lot for that kind of seismic 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.720 shift because there's just there's too much. There's just too 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.040 much in the West right now. That is not necessarily 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:31.840 excellent in the way that it was I believe in 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:36.480 twenty fourteen, but impressively competent. All right, Dan, let's go 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:41.440 over to Bob. What a Bob? He says two questions. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.960 Do you know I almost named the solid baby Bob? No, 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.839 and by almost I pitched it. It was immediately shot 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.600 down with where are you? Are you serious? Did you 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.520 like Robert or Bob? That's not nice to are Robert 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:57.400 and Bob and Bobby listeners? No? I wanted it. Did 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.920 you pitch Robert or did you pitch Bob? Straight Bob? Huh? 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.240 Straight baby Bob. I felt like it would catch people 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.439 off guard. I felt like it could, at least in 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.640 maybe his social group, like, oh, I like that, so 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.760 you would have gone Bob not Rob. I don't like 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.880 it as much. I don't like Bob as much as 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:20.080 his actual name, but like in the pitch sessions, it 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.160 came up as something I liked. Let's go to Bob. Yeah. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:30.720 My questions, can we in all caps? Can we win 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.360 a playoff game with Brian Kelly as a head coach? 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.040 This is a notre damer here? Can we win? Who's 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.640 to say? Mexico State fan. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.960 With Brian Kelly as our head coach. I know he 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.040 can get us there, and he's one hundred times better 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:50.000 than Charlie Weiss, But can he do it? Secondly, what 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:54.160 are proper expectations for the third date? And should they 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.280 be revised if a person was born in a Latin 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:57.120 American We'll get. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:57.520 To that question. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.400 We will get to the third A lot there, Yeah, 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.520 a lot of meat on that bone. We'll get to 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.360 that in Soliverble after hours. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.199 May I before you answer yes, may I ask it 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.360 in a serious voice? Please serious? Xm ty? Can Brian 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:16.040 Kelly get over that hump? Does Brian Kelly have a 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:21.080 Clemson and Alabama problem? Can he get Notre Dame from 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.760 great to elite? Sure? 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.920 It's such a loaded question right now. I think there 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.400 is such a golf between Alabama and Clemson and the 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.720 rest of college football. I don't know if Notre Dame. 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.200 I think George's waiting at Georgia. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.200 George is getting there. They're kind of swimming across the 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:43.520 gulf to join the other two. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.120 Yeah, but they're peering in like what was it Billy 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:48.960 Madison or was it Happy gilm or peering in at 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.040 prom Oh? I think that would be Billy Madison. Okay, there, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.760 George's not at prom as a as a top tier team, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.520 but they're looking in longingly. 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.360 That's right, they're getting they're swimming across the whatever metaphor 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:05.800 you'd like to use, Georgia's knocking on that door. Notre 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:10.080 Dame finds itself in pretty good company in that next 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.320 tier of college football now. I happen to think they 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.360 need higher level quarterback play than what they got from 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.560 ian Book. Ian Book was a limiting factor. They've done 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.760 a lot of work, really good work. Recruiting along the 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.040 offensive line. Was tough to go up against Clemson because 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.520 they had four NFL starters, but by and large doing 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.960 work in the trenches, both offensive and defensive. I think 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.680 that's a step forward. We still need a little bit 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.800 more depth, need to see more depth in the secondary 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.760 because I think that's been an achilles heel for them 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.040 as well, and they need to find a way to 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.760 get more playmaking from their guys out wide. I could 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.400 check the boxes here. A good year, though, we could 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.560 go we could go for eons about what Notre Dame 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.520 could tweak to get better. But they made the playoff. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.840 They had an undefeated regular season. This is still a 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:05.200 good team with a good coach. Bob, You're right, Brian 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.400 Kelly's one hundred times better than Charlie Weis. I know 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.400 people dog them all the time, and that's fine, I 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.680 get it. But there are a few elements of that 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.200 team that need to be taken up a notch in 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.360 order for them to really get to that status maintaining 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.560 it once you get to a Clemson level. If you 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.160 can get to a Clemson level, maintaining that level is 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:25.479 a different story altogether. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:30.520 Very few teams can do that. Two points slash questions. One, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.040 if you want us to talk about Notre Dame less, 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.760 ask about your team, Come on. Two, that was a joke. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:43.760 I apologize. Two, you should as I want to say 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.840 this politely. As a fan who roots for a team 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.360 who's won a playoff game, I feel like maybe I 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.440 should be the one to jump in, Oh please, then 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.120 go ahead, kind of know what it takes. No. Two, 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.920 Ian Book had a good year. Ian Book was one 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:04.560 of the top fourteen fifteen quarterbacks in the country. That's good, absolutely, okay, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.720 absolutely so. I don't know if it's all on Ian 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:08.119 Book now. 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:09.760 I'm not putting it all. I'm not putting it all 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.560 on Ian Brooks. I'm saying that his skill set was 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.000 a limiting factor. You can only throw so many ten 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.000 yard outs or pop passes over the middle or screen 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.480 passes out wide before a defense catches on him throwing deep. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.840 But is there a quarterback outside of like this year, 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:31.520 was there a quarterback outside of Tua? Maybe Haskins, Greer, 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.800 I guess we can start having a from conversation. But 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.560 beyond that that you would have swapped into the Notre 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.480 Dame lineup and said, Okay, he was good. No, I'm 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.919 not going to play the game where I would rather have. No, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.760 I'm not saying rather have what I'm saying realistically, if 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.760 Will Greer or Jake from or Dwayne Haskins is the 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.560 Notre Dame quarterback, are they Is that game a game 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:59.359 with two minutes left? He any one of those got 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.320 what was the final score? Thirty to three? Thirty to three? 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.160 Any one of those guys gives Notre Dame more pop 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.200 on offense because they can throw a better deep ball. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.760 Are they within four points with two minutes left? Probably? No? 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.399 Probably not. And then if you look at I just 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.239 while you were talking You're not the only one who 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:18.640 can do things while the other person. 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.080 The problem wasn't so much ian Book as it was 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:22.439 trying to stop Trevor Lawrence. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:26.920 Right, So if you go back and ian Book could 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.520 have for certain done more in that game to keep 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.080 it close, But I don't. I think it was sort 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.240 of just a foregone conclusion. The two best Notre Dame 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.840 quarterbacks in two thousand and nine, Deshaun Kaiser in twenty 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.320 fifteen and Jimmy Classon in two thousand and nine. Do 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:45.000 either of them make a difference. I think I'd rather 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.840 have either of those in ian Book, Okay, but do 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:53.200 they make a Is it a competitive situation with them? Again, 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.280 I'm wondering if it's Probably not. Probably not, because. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.800 They were up against a buzz saw, a buzz saw 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.359 that destroyed Alabama in the second half. 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.080 Do you think it's a Brian Kelly quarterback thing that 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:09.399 quarterbacks you know are pretty good and have you know, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.800 well you can make you could make that case, Dan 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.400 and two thousand and nine wasn't Clawson was not Brian 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:15.400 Kelly by the way. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.600 Right, No, no, agreed, But you could make a very 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.160 strong case that no quarterback under his watch has truly 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:23.240 lived up to their potential. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.439 The short answer, after we just gave long answers, is 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.760 can Notre Dame win a playoff game? Yeah? When they 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.399 don't have to play Clemson or Alabama? They can win 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.160 a playoff game if they draw Washington, if they draw 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:41.800 Michigan State, if they draw Texas Oklahoma, if it's not 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.199 Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, if they draw whoever, if 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.639 they're Florida State or Florida. Yes, right now, Clemson and 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:55.320 Alabama are nearly impossible, especially with time to prepare, unless 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.320 you are Clemson or Alabama. 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.120 All right, Well, on that note, Dan, speaking of Clemson, 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.200 speaking of Alabama, Jay with one of my favorite questions 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.359 of all time, Oh Spice, at what point does a 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:14.520 team win enough games to transition from lovable underdog to 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:19.960 a full bond villain? At what point did slash? Does 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.439 Clemson switch over? This is I love this question, A 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.360 terrific question, Jay, Thank you so much for listening. 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:32.320 Let's back up to you. What is your ideal lovable team? 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:36.159 What composes an ideal lovable team in not like A 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.800 They're scrappy and weird to watch two am, not like that? 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.360 What is your like, I really enjoy everything that's happening 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.199 with this program and team, specifically on the field, off 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:50.160 the field, whatever what goes into that. For Tyler Hildemrant, 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.760 the underdog component is pretty big to me. Okay, And 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.119 I'm thinking back to some of those Boise State teams 0:20:56.119 --> 0:21:00.439 when Boise was really revving up its program. You'll member, 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.240 bois wasn't always a dog, but they had that underdog 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.800 appeal because they were a group of five team and 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:10.359 they came from from Idaho with the blue turf, and 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.119 they ran a lot of trick plays that to me, 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.359 was very lovable a lot of teams, a lot of 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.760 people were rooting for Boise, I think because of that. 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.880 But the second component of that, even though they had 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.119 the underdog appeal, when you actually watched them play, some 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:24.720 of those. 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:29.240 Boise teams balled out on defense. It wasn't just smoking mirrors. 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.040 They were good. To the old Jared Zabranski like, those 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:36.120