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Speaker 1: and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildebrand. Joining me over there in

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Speaker 2: My man feeling a bit under the weather. Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 2: how you doing?

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Speaker 1: I am reinvigorated. Tyler Okay, I am feeling good. It's

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Speaker 1: it's been a successful day both as a father and

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Speaker 1: as a general human. We've got good college basketball on TV.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this at around five pm Eastern. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, hey, dogs are barking out there. The dogs are

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Speaker 2: barking in your brackets. Hope you picked a bunch of underdogs.

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Speaker 2: Hope you got in on the solid verbal bracket pool.

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Speaker 2: We had I lost count several hundred entries that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pushing into a thousand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with a crush at the last second, as per usual,

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Speaker 1: Loullville, loa. But yeah, off to a good start. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: It is a fun time of year as what we

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Speaker 2: Well, as you know, it is the college football off season,

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Speaker 2: As you know, you put out some specific topics of

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where we're where we're going to start,

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that means what was

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Speaker 1: start with transfer talk? I want to start with Quinn.

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Speaker 2: Quinn says, does Tate Martel being eligible immediately at Miami

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Speaker 1: Dan, does this open the door for more of the same?

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Speaker 1: And to reset things, this is Tate Martel immediately eligible

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Speaker 2: I don't think that we are spiraling out of control

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Speaker 1: And I think there are probably considerations we don't know

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Speaker 1: over to Bob. What a Bob? He says two questions.

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Speaker 1: My questions, can we in all caps? Can we win

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Speaker 2: With Brian Kelly as our head coach. I know he

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Speaker 2: We will get to the third A lot there, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think George's waiting at Georgia.

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Speaker 2: George is getting there. They're kind of swimming across the

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Speaker 2: ian Book. Ian Book was a limiting factor. They've done

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Speaker 2: go we could go for eons about what Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: They had an undefeated regular season. This is still a

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Speaker 2: good team with a good coach. Bob, You're right, Brian

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Speaker 2: Kelly's one hundred times better than Charlie Weis. I know

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Speaker 2: people dog them all the time, and that's fine, I

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Speaker 1: Very few teams can do that. Two points slash questions. One,

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Speaker 1: Ian Book had a good year. Ian Book was one

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Speaker 2: I'm not putting it all. I'm not putting it all

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Speaker 1: Are they within four points with two minutes left? Probably? No?

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Speaker 2: The problem wasn't so much ian Book as it was

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Speaker 1: Right, So if you go back and ian Book could

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's a Brian Kelly quarterback thing that

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Speaker 2: Right, No, no, agreed, But you could make a very

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Speaker 1: The short answer, after we just gave long answers, is

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Speaker 1: don't have to play Clemson or Alabama? They can win

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Speaker 1: Let's back up to you. What is your ideal lovable team?

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Speaker 2: Boise teams balled out on defense. It wasn't just smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 1: But if I did to guess you didn't watch a

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Speaker 1: to Clemson, do Clemson get over a hump? Yeah, they did.

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Speaker 1: I think we are uniquely qualified to talk about Clemson

433
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: getting over certain humps that is for the course of the season. Yeah.

434
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: I think Clemson there is a likability factor, there's a

435
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: style of play factor that they check both of those boxes.

436
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: You got your trick plays. They like the large man plays,

437
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: you know Christian Wilkins, where they're just they don't take

438
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: themselves so so seriously that they're willing to get creative.

439
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: You have Deshaun Watson, who was a very fun quarterback

440
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: to watch. And there was something about Clemson at least

441
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: playing probably two to three competitive close games every year

442
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: that even when they're excellent, you we still know that

443
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: Clemson has down weeks, whereas the machine that is Alabama football,

444
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: they would have their Ole Miss week or their Mississippi

445
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: State week where it would get strange, or a low

446
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: scoring LSU game but where they stand now to say

447
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: Alabama football is in a fun, lovable place. It's impressive,

448
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: it's excellent, but lovable probably not.

449
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lovability yeah factor that I think weighs

450
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: pretty heavily here. It's like, you know, we talk about

451
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: this a lot with the NFL. The NFL feels corporate

452
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: and soulless compared to college football.

453
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: You gotta give me some charm.

454
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: You got to have some personality, You got to have

455
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: something to latch onto. Alabama unless you're already a fan,

456
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: doesn't really give you that. Whereas Clemson, despite the fact

457
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: that they've clearly gotten over that proverbial hump, there's still

458
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: a lot of personality there. Yeah, you're right, and I

459
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: think it makes it harder to declare them in that

460
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: bond villain stage is and.

461
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: This is I'm not gonna use lovable. Is Dabo likable

462
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: charming to you? Do you think do you swing more

463
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: on the you know, putting up a front full of

464
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: crap kind of thing with Dabo or genuinely likable charming,

465
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, is what he projects himself to be. It's

466
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: the Tebow dilemma. I have no idea who Tim Tebow

467
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: is I.

468
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: Would say that there is still enough personality and still

469
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: enough authenticity with Dabbo. Okay that, Yeah, he's lovable, he's likable,

470
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: there's something to latch onto.

471
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: I think I swing that way as well, but it's

472
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: nothing that really has had. Like the dancing in the

473
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: locker room great. I don't go either way on that.

474
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: It's fun. Sure, the interviews, the catchphrases to bring your

475
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: own guts, it's fine. That's nothing bad. It's nothing great.

476
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: The thing that I liked a lot about him where

477
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: there's like these there's a couple of moments. Remember when

478
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: he played Steve Spurrier's voicemails to him for a story. Yeah,

479
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: I love that. That was great. We're like, oh, okay,

480
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: this guy is not super self serious all of the time.

481
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: You know, this guy just you know, can let down,

482
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: was let down. His hair is not a great example

483
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: because it doesn't have long hair, but I like that

484
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: there is that element to him. So right now, I

485
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: think Clemson is not necessarily lovable. I think they're swinging

486
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: in the machine direction. You know, Trevor Lawrence doesn't have

487
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: a big personality excellent to watch. I'm not gonna he

488
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have a bad personalities eighteen nineteen years old. Nobody does.

489
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know the personalities yet for this coming

490
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: season where I can say, Okay, this guy's great, this

491
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: style is great. The way they're going about this is great.

492
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: I just want to see what they look like and

493
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: how they respond to being down three or four early

494
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I want that. That, to me

495
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: is lovable. If you're never in competitive games because you're

496
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: either terrible or you're just far and away more talented

497
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: and better coached and more of a machine than everybody else,

498
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard for me to love.

499
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Clemson right now is James Bond. They're not the villain.

500
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: I think, yeah they are. They are the coolest team

501
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: in this moment, I would say, right, I would agree

502
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: with that. Okay, wow, what a weird path we've taken

503
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: with this, What a weird path. Indeed, by the way,

504
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: if you want to blurb us in the twenty nineteen

505
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: Clemson media guy, Yeah, the coolest team right now or here,

506
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: just even put it on the walls of your facility. Sure,

507
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: just give us credit, just give us, just download the

508
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: pie and we're good. I can't believe we've come this

509
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: far with Clemson. But yeah, and you know what, here's

510
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: another factor, and this doesn't tell the whole story. How

511
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: are teams fans and it's impossible to paint a fan

512
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: base with a single paint swipe, brother, hold on, hold on,

513
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: gold On, hold on, hold on.

514
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: As a Notre Dame fan, yeah, I am uniquely qualified

515
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: to talk about this.

516
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: And you're right, your fans are not the worst.

517
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: They're not the worst. No, but there is a perception

518
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: among non Notre Dame fans that they're among the worst,

519
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: and that the program has a bit of a machine

520
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: institutional quality to it, that some of the personality is

521
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: boiled off.

522
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is not likable. Notre Dame does not do

523
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: much in the likability department. For me.

524
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: There are a lot of factors there that make Notre

525
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Dame a lot less likable. Now, right, doesn't affect me,

526
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: but I get it.

527
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm with you. There's a preachiness to Notre

528
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Dame in general that has nothing really to do with

529
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: the fact that there are a Catholic institute. Hell, there's

530
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: a preachiness to Dabbo Sweeney. There is, there is, there is,

531
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: and that's that's a demerit to me, and I get it,

532
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: and you know, you take in the whole story. But

533
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is a tough ask because of the the

534
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: in Stuto shutting, you know, like the the the baggage

535
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: that comes with Notre Dame. And there's a self importance

536
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: there that I on one level definitely understand accomplished a

537
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: lot over time, but it's it's a tough ask. Is

538
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: this a good transition into the like if an alien

539
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: came down from Earth, and who should you tell this

540
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: alien to root for in each conference? Well? Okay, here

541
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah.

542
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: This one from Wes the Runner on Twitter. Hello Wes, Yeah,

543
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: if you had zero prior attachment to college football, what

544
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: team would you root for in each conference?

545
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: Yep? So to your question, Dan, let's start with the American.

546
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: Let's start with the American. Yeah, pull up the college

547
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: football standings. Refamiliarize yourself with who's in what conference. Because

548
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: it's late March, I'm picking from the American right now? Yeah,

549
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: say it, say it. I guess it's Yen yef right,

550
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: Nea Matello, It's either or Houston? Yeah, uh, Houston. I

551
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm fine with them. They fired their coach

552
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: real quickly. The Luke Fickle story at Cincinnati is really good.

553
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: They're chilly at side. Cincinnati's likable if we.

554
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: Frame this though in the context of the alien coming

555
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: down from outer space, wide eyed looking around college football?

556
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: Who to root for? The Dana Holgerson Angle at Houston

557
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: is pretty damn fun. Yeah, no, they're They're going to

558
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: look fun on offense for sure.

559
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Can we agree on Houston? I'm gonna go Memphis. To me,

560
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: Memphis is the most likable. They've played a ton of

561
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: fun games. They play a wide open offense. I like

562
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks. They've put players in the NFL recently, and

563
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: well Memphis, acc okay, acc, who's the most likable? Lovable?

564
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Get on this train and you'll at least enjoy yourself

565
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: more often than you won't at a minimum.

566
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: Well, we just talked about Clemson. Yeah, there is a

567
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: there's a likability with Clemson.

568
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: Now, that's that's too bandwagony.

569
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: Miami could be fun. We don't know which direction that's going. Yeah,

570
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: that's true, but there's a swagger there. There's a bit

571
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: of any which is weird for Miami, but it's kind

572
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: of there. I like Manny Diaz Many, even with the

573
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: departure real quick. The Q's thing is interesting because I

574
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: like Dino, I like the style. I like that they

575
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: weirdly play in a dome. I mean, I understand it's

576
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: Western New York.

577
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: But the Syracuse thing is they're competitive. They take good

578
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: teams down to the wire or they beat them. And

579
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: they are a team who was super down and now

580
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: they've become pretty competitive most of the time. I did

581
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: watch the Notre Dame game and that was Syracue.

582
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: Sort of is the team that you would pick if

583
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: you are an alien, isn't it?

584
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, it's moved. Yeah, okay, next, Big twelve.

585
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: I think this is easy. Big twelve. Who are you

586
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: going with? I go clones and I don't think twice. Yeah,

587
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: that quarterback who became an All American linebacker there, they

588
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: were terrible or just maddeningly maddeningly inconsistent. They take down giants.

589
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: They play a fun style, at least defensively. They switched

590
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: over to that dime a couple of years ago. On

591
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: board that was pretty difficult. Big twelve has a lot

592
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: of pretty likable teams, fun teams to get behind, you

593
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: throw out Oklahoma and Texas just because then you're just

594
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: jumping on. It's got to be Iowa State. I think

595
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: it's Iowa State. TCU's kind of close for me, but

596
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: I know you have too much in the in your

597
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: past with TCU. Big ten is Perdue. I'm scanning Wisconsin's

598
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: real fun. If you're gonna pick Iowa State, you gotta

599
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: pick Perdue. I like Purdue, and I like the strides

600
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: that they've taken. I like the big upset from last year.

601
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: But if I'm telling somebody to get on board with

602
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: the culture and the experience of being a fan of

603
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: this team, you just picked Syracuse. I know. But right now,

604
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: as it stands, right now, they are enjoyable. Purdue is

605
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Purdue beats Ohio State, and then they lose to some

606
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: to three somebodies in a dumb way. I don't know

607
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: if they're a Paul Abdul team. I think it steps forward,

608
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: one step back. I just do Okay, so agree to disagree.

609
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Conference USA. I'm going to stay North Texas. Yeah, it's

610
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: a good answer. I think it. Yeah. I do like

611
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: the North Texas answer. We won't count. We won't count

612
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: in real early with Charlotte, right now Mid American Conference

613
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: or the MAC as it's known, root for this team.

614
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: They're likable, they're fun, they're an enjoyable watch. You're not

615
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: jumping on a bandwagon, you're not killing yourself. The turnaround

616
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: that Eastern's had these past few years makes it interesting

617
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: for me as well as Buffalo. Buffalo's gotten. I think

618
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo's my answer and that yes, they won their division

619
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: last year and they've recruited well, but the fact that

620
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: their coach comes over from what Wisconsin Whitewater and immediately

621
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: transforms a super down program, and Buffalo's good answer. We're

622
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: sticking with what is it Western New York? Yeah? Great? Uh.

623
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: Boise State is my Mountain West team. I know it's cliche,

624
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: but I just waxed poetic about how I love Boise

625
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: State back in the days of Jared Zebranski, I have

626
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: to go with the Broncos.

627
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Utah State would have been interesting with them keeping their coach,

628
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: but going back to Gary Anderson, I don't know about that.

629
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: Hawaii I like Rolovich, I'm fine with it. I think

630
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: Fresno State and what Jeff Tedford has done. I've always

631
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: liked the San Joaquin Valley Central California. Fresno's my pick.

632
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: Let's go to the PAC twelve here, and I just

633
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: I have I have a fondness for Pat Hill. Yeah, okay, okay,

634
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. PAC twelve.

635
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: I feel like because I went Houston, mm hmm, and

636
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: because we also talked about the alien quality of Syracuse,

637
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: Washington State is a pretty strong selection here.

638
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: Washington State's not bad. You have a ceiling, but you're

639
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: your fun a fun watch. You are in every game

640
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: you should be except perhaps the Apple Cup. Lazzo is

641
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: a very good answer. I think Arizona State's also a

642
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: good answer, buying into that Herm mentality, aren't you. I

643
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's because of Herm's that's I like

644
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Speaker 1: that there is potential at Arizona State for winning the South,

645
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Speaker 1: especially with some Ustula and USC down I like, I mean,

646
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Speaker 1: I like everything about the Greater Phoenix, Tempe, Scottsdale, that

647
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: whole area. So if I'm picking one, it's probably Wazoo.

648
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: And if after year one Mel Tucker has this team

649
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: at seven and five, eight and four, I love Colorado.

650
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: I just can't in late March twenty nineteen, but Colorado

651
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: would be my answer. Probably who is decent Colorado fan.

652
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: And finally, who is the most I guess not Finally,

653
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: We've got one other one. Who is the most exciting team?

654
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: If you're an alien in the SEC, in the SEC,

655
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Speaker 1: get on board now, you go have a good time

656
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: rooting for them. You're not jumping on a bandwagon. O. God,

657
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: this is rough. I think it might be Florida. I'll

658
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: take Mississippi State, all right with Joe Moorehead. I know

659
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say Florida or Mississippi State. I don't know.

660
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: If you got the klanga klanga you have, you know

661
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: Florida's not bad. But again, you're talking about a team

662
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Speaker 1: that's won two national championships in the last you know,

663
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Speaker 1: a little over a decade. Yeah, as it stands now,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. God, it is weird to say it,

665
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: but Mississippi State for me, with the creativity of Joe Moorehead,

666
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Speaker 1: with the unique nature of fandom and Starkville, I wouldn't

667
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: hate that situation. If they continue their trajectory of winning

668
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Speaker 1: eight nine games, if they remain a comfortable team, I

669
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Speaker 1: would love to be on board.

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Speaker 2: I think the argument against Mississippi State, quite frankly, is

671
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Speaker 2: that Joe moorehead may not be there five years from now.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to keep top top guys, Whereas I think

673
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen will be at Florida it's totally reasonable. And

674
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: finally the Sun Belt. Dan, Yeah, you're gonna go app State.

675
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: Your boy left, You're gonna go app State. We had

676
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: turnover turnover at app State. Then we have turnover at

677
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Speaker 1: Troy with Neil Brown leaving. Sure, yeah, uh, I mean

678
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Speaker 1: I think I like Eli Drinkwitz. I don't know a

679
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: lot about him at app State. Georgia Southern is scratching

680
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: an itch for me. I've liked Blake. The Blake Anderson

681
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: thing at Arkansas State has also been a secretly pretty

682
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: fun watch. Couldn't tell you I'm an expert on all

683
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: things Blake Anderson. But the job he's done with the

684
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Speaker 1: Red Wolves. Let's go Redman. Let's pickin Arkansas State, maybe

685
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Speaker 1: Georgia Southern.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we disagree on Houston or Memphis. We

687
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: disagree on Boise or Fresno, on Wazoo or Colorado, although

688
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: you kind of agreed with Wazoo, yeah, or Mississippi State,

689
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: but otherwise we sort of agree on Qes Iowa State,

690
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: Purdue North Texas, Buffalo in Arkansas State. Yes, correct, All right, Dan,

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Speaker 2: before we go any further, what is your motto in life?

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Speaker 1: You're only as comfortable as your feet tie. That is right, sir,

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Speaker 1: I am. I'm no joke wearing the product that you

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Speaker 2: I don't know how often people out there talk about

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Speaker 1: That's fine. You should.

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Speaker 2: They're very comfortable to travel out of town with whatever

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Speaker 2: the situation. They've got you covered. They are what feet

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Speaker 2: daydream about. They've got me saying that here on the script,

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Speaker 2: But I'm telling you if feet could daydream, it would

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Speaker 2: into your sock drawer and say to yourself, you know what.

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Speaker 1: These shouldn't be here anymore. These need to be replaced,

730
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Speaker 1: but you might not have that solution in your head,

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Speaker 1: and so they just stay in your drawer. They just

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Speaker 1: stay there and stay there and stay there. Check your

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Speaker 1: text messages, Ty, what do you see? You know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't have my phone on me first time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so when you goog go check your messages after the show,

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Speaker 1: you will see I sent you a picture of my

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Speaker 1: feet because I know you're into that. Okay, they are

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Speaker 1: wearing Bombas socks. I gave you proof. Wow, you can

739
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741
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Speaker 2: Do we want to go to this question from Ted

742
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 2: at the very top of the dock?

743
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can we go to Let's go to Ted momentarily.

744
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: I want to ask Yeah, I'll ask you this question

745
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: that I'll try my best answered as well from Patrick

746
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: came to the inbox the Jersey Mics eat thoroughly box. Uh,

747
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Speaker 1: That's the best I could do. Patrick wants to say, Hi, guys,

748
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: big fan of the podcast. Yeses, I had a question

749
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: for your upcoming Q and A show. Several times I've

750
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: heard Dan use the term quote infrastructure when describing either

751
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: problems deep within a program or a new coaches from

752
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: the ground up rebuild for a program or of a program.

753
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: What does that term mean to you? Ty? What kinds

754
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: of things are you referring to that might not be

755
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: obvious to the casual fan. I gather it goes beyond

756
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: player evaluation and on field coaching staff. What else is involved?

757
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: What other personnel is it? Buildings, facilities, aspects of the program,

758
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: like academic support. If you're talking about the bones of

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00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: the program, what does that skeleton look like? Well, he

760
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: hit on a number of things.

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00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he covered a lot of things in his question.

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00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: On a very fundamental level, to me, it is commitment

763
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: to the program, and oftentimes commitment to a program translates

764
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: to dollars definitely. What kind of financial commitment is an

765
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: institution willing to put forth to better their football program.

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00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: We've got very obvious examples like Texas. We've got very

767
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: obvious examples like Georgia, like Clemson, schools that have very

768
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: notably put forth a pretty large commitment to the football program.

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00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: A lot of D one schools fall into that category.

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00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: But it starts there, and oftentimes it trickles down into

771
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: actual infrastructure things that we might talk about, such as facilities.

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Speaker 2: Using the Clemson example, No.

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Speaker 1: I think all that is right. I would say, if

774
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: I had to boil it down to what what does

775
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: infrastructure mean? To you, it is from the top down,

776
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: there's going to be a vision, whether it's athletic director,

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00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: whether it's president of the school, whether it's chancellor, all

778
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: the way down, and then obviously to the head coach

779
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: and how empowered the head coaches to both have a

780
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: solid good vision, a winning vision, a sensical vision, and

781
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: how well he is supported. Like you mentioned, in every

782
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: facet of making players want to be there, want to

783
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: commit to the team, whether it's academics, whether it's the

784
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: coach is very clear to his assistance about what he expects,

785
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: both as you know, as for player development, as for recruiting,

786
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: as for academics, as for staying on this player about this,

787
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: you know, as for hiring a strength coach and say

788
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: this is what I want out of them, X, Y

789
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: and Z. This is how we're going to discipline. This

790
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: is how we are going to communicate with our players

791
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: about what we're doing, why we're doing it, This is

792
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: how we're going to meet. This is when we're going

793
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: to meet. This is how we're going to practice. This

794
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: is why we're practicing this way. You know, this is

795
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: you know our schedule on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, what is

796
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: what is the actual organization. Does everybody understand what is

797
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: expected of them and how well is that supplied for

798
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: the players, whether it's nutrition, academics, facilities, whatever, it's a

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Speaker 1: commitment to the vision. And you know, when we had

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00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: Andy Staples on to talk about I think Dabosweeney. We

801
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: talked about Dabosweeny a while back and whether or not

802
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: he was buying into this, and I was like, why

803
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: don't coaches leave Clemson. We don't leave Clemson because they

804
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: have a good life, They get paid, their families are

805
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: welcomed at like Family Night. Not to talk about how

806
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: cool Clemson is once again, but there is a clear

807
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: infrastructure where everybody understands what the program is and is

808
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: trying to do. And when you look at programs that

809
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: lose a lot, it can be money, it can be

810
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: lack of vision, it can be lack of communication, and

811
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Speaker 1: it can be lack of support for all of the above,

812
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: and oftentimes it is and so it's bad hiring, it

813
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: is bad communication, and it is trying to cut corners

814
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: because of Okay, it's going to cost too much or

815
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, something went wrong along the chain. And if

816
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 1: a pro has that solid chain and it's become harder

817
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: and harder to because there is such a crazy arms

818
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: race with everything. Then they are most likely going to

819
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: be not only a consistent Bowl team, but they're going

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Speaker 1: to beat more good teams than not. And to me,

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Speaker 1: that is what infrastructure is. And I will take at

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Speaker 1: least a four on this infrastructure ap test.

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Speaker 2: I would echo your sentiment around vision. The budget can

824
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 2: buy you the tools that you need to put together

825
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: a successful program, you need the vision to tie it

826
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Speaker 2: all together. Case in point, Texas has a huge budget,

827
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Speaker 2: you could argue they haven't had that vision or at

828
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Speaker 2: least the vision wasn't successful.

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Speaker 1: Right, A good vision, A good vision.

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Speaker 2: I would also argue that Tom Herman's got them going

831
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: in a good direction, that we're going to start sending

832
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: a better return on that investment in the years to come.

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Speaker 2: But you can trast a school like a Texas with

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Speaker 2: a school like in Ohio State, with a school like

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Speaker 2: a Clemson where clearly the commitment is there and the

836
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: vision is also there or has been there leading that

837
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Speaker 2: program to new heights, and.

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00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: You can't talk about Tom Herman tearing down and restarting

839
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: the infrastructure at Texas without a clip of him struggling

840
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: with a sledgehammer. That's right, that's right. Set infrastructure literally

841
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: in the locker room. So very good question. There is

842
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: that commitment. Yeah, next, we have Ted right.

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Speaker 2: Ted says, you guys often answer questions from the same

844
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: folks I assume unknowingly. For instance, this week, the Audible

845
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 2: podcast and podcast Ain't Played Nobody both addressed a question

846
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: on Tennessee and Nebraska being sleeping giants. In past episodes,

847
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: the Solid Verbal and podcast Ain't Played Nobody both answered

848
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: questions from regular submitters, which leads me to ask, do

849
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Speaker 2: you not have the time or ability to listen to

850
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: each other's podcasts despite knowing each other and being friendly?

851
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: From what I observe, my question, either for here or

852
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: on your respective shows, is do you listen to other

853
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: podcasts college football podcasts? And if so, even if it

854
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: is taboo to say in fear that you drive away listeners?

855
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: Which one.

856
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: So there's a lot to unpack here. I would also

857
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: add that Ted did not just send this email to us,

858
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: He also addressed it to our friends over at podcasting

859
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: and played Nobody as well as the Audible Dan.

860
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: So a lot here. Where do you want to start with? Honesty, tie,

861
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: I guess I have, and I still do sometimes, but

862
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: I do far less than I used to. And it's

863
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: not I like a lot like Bill c and Godfree

864
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: and Stu and Bruce Chip Patterson does a wonderful podcast

865
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: for CBS. My problem is one, I have less time.

866
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: Two I get to listen to my favorite college football

867
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: podcasts with better audio than anybody else. And that's this

868
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: one and three. I'm a comedy nerd as an unfunny person,

869
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: I say this, and I read a lot of interviews

870
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: with comedians and comedic actors and writers and stuff like that,

871
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: and there's something that a lot of them say that

872
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: they don't watch a lot of comedies. They really like

873
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: dramas or thrillers or horror movies or whatever because they

874
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: don't want to feel bad about their own show. They

875
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: don't want jokes, you know, through osmosis or whatever creeping

876
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: into their brain. And I find myself agreeing that I

877
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: don't want Godfrey's opinion about something or Bruce's opinion about

878
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: something changing how I feel about something organically, because he

879
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: planted a seed, one of them planted a seed in me.

880
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a ton of use in other college

881
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: football podcasts for whatever you're into about college football, But

882
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: I just like listening to other things. College football is

883
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: how I spend so much of my time professionally that

884
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: I like going in a complete different direction. I love

885
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: NBA podcasts. I will recommend Open Floor with our friends

886
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: Ben Golliver and Andrew Sharp until I'm blue in the face.

887
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: But for college football, I just that's not where I

888
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: go generally podcast wise. I'm with you. I like the

889
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: solid verbal. I'm with you.

890
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: I too, prefer the solid verbal. I dabble with other shows,

891
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: and not just not just the two that are on

892
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: this list. I like to dabble with college football shows

893
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: just to see what people are doing.

894
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: Do you like sending me snarky text messages about their

895
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: audio quality? Sometimes?

896
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: I do that sometimes sometimes, But I do like to dabble,

897
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: and I like to see what other people are doing,

898
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 2: just from a raw idea standpoint. Sure, I always feel,

899
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, like I don't have the kind

900
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: of time that I need to be fully up to

901
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: speed with the information the way others are. And that's

902
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: because I have the mysterious day job. Right, you just

903
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: run out of time. If I'm listening to other shows.

904
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: It is generally not about college football, and it is

905
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: generally not even about sports.

906
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: Now, before you go on, do you want to play

907
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: the solid verbal after hours music? So anybody who's done

908
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: who only wants to hear.

909
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: That, we can play it the after hours music. Yeah,

910
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: and we're back there you go, yeah, no, yeah, you

911
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: are free to go. If you were here for college football.

912
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, take take off. Thanks for the download, Thanks for listening.

913
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: We treasure and appreciate you. Thank you. Give me your

914
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: favorite space show. How's Neil de grass Tyson's.

915
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: Neil de grass Tyson. He's got a huge podcast, right,

916
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: that has a huge podcast. Yeah, I listened to that

917
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: one for a while.

918
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: That was sort of my go to.

919
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not even space based shows. It's just anything

920
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: that pertains to outer space.

921
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: I'll listen to. So what are you most excited space

922
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: wise when a new episode goes up?

923
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: If you could give me anything on space travel, if

924
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: you could give me anything on like aliens, if you

925
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: can give me anything in that vein, I'll pump it

926
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: right into the vein.

927
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: Black holes, wormholes, Let's do it, anti matter, let's do it. Okay, fair,

928
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: I like Malcolm Gladwell's podcast A good deal Revision's History. Yeah,

929
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: think it does a good job with that. I like listen.

930
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't love media criticism, and I try to stay

931
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: away from a lot of media naval gazing. But our

932
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: pal Jimmy Traina does a nice job at sh Jimmy Sure, Sure.

933
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the startup podcast Gimblet who now they're

934
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: all wearing gold chains. Ray podcast Money I like. I

935
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: found I find podcasts on YouTube more than I ever did.

936
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: There's a there's like a group of comedians in LA

937
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: and I don't watch them all that much, but I

938
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: find Tom Sagora to be really funny, and so I

939
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: found his podcasts Your Mom's House, that he does with

940
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: his wife, Chris Positski. They're both comedians. They're great when

941
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: if chemistry is the secret sauce a married couple, if

942
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: they can pull it off, is great. So I really

943
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: like Your Mom's House. It's not safe for work, and

944
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: they go into I don't agree with everything, they go

945
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: into places that are just wonderful. Who else do I

946
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: like in terms of podcasts?

947
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: I like, Yeah, obviously my brother, my brother and me,

948
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: we've talked about them. Love my Bam bam yep, until

949
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: we're you know, blue in the face. We've talked about them, YEA.

950
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Love to go to a live show if they ever

951
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: come up in the world. Ben, I started listening to

952
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: fantasy baseball podcasts because it's that time of year again.

953
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you in a league?

954
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm in many, many leagues, Dan, I'm in three leagues.

955
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: It's too many. I shouldn't be in three leagues.

956
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: What's the best fantasy baseball podcast? The best one that

957
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: I found is on CBS Sports. Who does it? Adam

958
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: Aser and some of the other guys that write for CBS.

959
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: How long is is it daily?

960
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: I think it's daily. I haven't listened long enough to know.

961
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: But it's questionable audio quality at times, but really good information,

962
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: which is really the only time I'm willing to make

963
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: that trade off. But right, good chemistry, great information. That

964
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: has sort of been my go to on the fantasy side.

965
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: Have you listened to Business Wars on occasion? It's good,

966
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: it's good boundary network does it? Business Wars highly recommend

967
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: they just like, Hey, it's Monster Energy versus Red Bull.

968
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: Did you listen to did you listen to Doctor Death?

969
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of wondery. I have not, but I've heard wonderful things. Yeah,

970
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: I listened to that A good job. Yeah, I think

971
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: they're the same network. They do Dirty John as well. Right, yep, yep,

972
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: listen to that one too, good stuff. That's uh Jody

973
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: with And I is currently listening to the Farrah Noose. Okay,

974
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 1: the what's her name Elizabeth Holmes? Yeah, yeah, I haven't

975
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: watched the HBO documentary about Elizabeth Holmes and Therapnose yet,

976
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: but I've listened to the podcast, and I watched the

977
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: ABC like twenty twenty special. Yeah it rules. Okay, it's

978
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: so good, this whole thing. I don't know why I

979
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: appreciate a good fraud story. Oh is it good?

980
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: It's the fire Festival of Technology essentially.

981
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: Indeed it is ty, Indeed it is. I'm trying to

982
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: think if there's any other You mentioned what Kate likes

983
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: the was it Dax Shepherd's Shack Shepherd Armchair Expert. Yeah, yeah,

984
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: that's what you said. I haven't listened yet, but no,

985
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: apparently it's good. So yeah, those are some All right, Well,

986
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: write in give us suggestions. Let's go to give suggestions.

987
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: We're open to everything.

988
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: Jonathan I love this question from Jonathan. Let's imagine you

989
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: had the opportunity to guarantee your team a spot in

990
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 2: the college football playoff next season.

991
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, I know where we're going.

992
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: But in order to do so, you have to choose

993
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: between one of the below options. One with no control

994
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: or advanced notice on your end. One day each month,

995
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: you will go through an entire day with a wedgie.

996
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: Uh huh, a wedgie that is visible to all and

997
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: cannot be picked or adjusted, So.

998
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 1: Your underwear is coming out of your pants. Everybody sees

999
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: it and like in an aggressive and dramatic way, and

1000
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: you can do nothing to change it.

1001
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: Or perhaps you're at your mysterious day job and it's

1002
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: such a weggie that you can kind of see it

1003
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: from the outside, not just the underpants, but maybe your

1004
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: khaki's just.

1005
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: Wedged up in there. Or two.

1006
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: One day during the year, you will be victim of

1007
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: a public melvin aka atomic weggie. It can be at

1008
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: any moment of the day, and Andy's setting, a job interview,

1009
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: a church service, etc. And again you have no advanced notice.

1010
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: Which do you choose?

1011
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: Dan to me, this is sort of a no brainer.

1012
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: Is an atomic wedgie still a thing without wearing your

1013
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: traditional boxer shorts or tidy whities. Can it be still

1014
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: a thing with boxer briefs the way they're structured. I'm

1015
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: not sure. I'm old and washed. I believe it could be.

1016
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: It probably is.

1017
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: I was hard a time and layout distinguishing between just

1018
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: a regular wedgie and an atomic.

1019
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: Atomic goes olders are ahead, you pull it up, way

1020
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: way up. You're stretching the bands to sort of give

1021
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: yourself or give not yourself but the other person, like

1022
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: a Cornholio with said underpants.

1023
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: I think i'd go atomic weggie. I think you have

1024
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: to go atomic weggie one day during the year. It

1025
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: just says one day day pay versus one day each

1026
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: month where you have to go through a full day,

1027
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: Like that's something the CIA does to get information out

1028
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 2: of people. Well, I mean we've both had our teams

1029
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: in the playoff, right, sure, so this is not you

1030
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: as a North Carolina State fan me as a cal fan,

1031
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: where like it really hasn't been close and saying, oh man,

1032
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: what I would do for me the playoff game sort

1033
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: of was the atomic weggie.

1034
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a pretty clear concept. I take the

1035
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: one day and I'll I mean, it's just it's a day,

1036
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: it's more violent. But here's the other thing. I am

1037
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: never in a play. So I work for a number

1038
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: of companies now, but I'm never really in a place

1039
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: where I would be embarrassed about much. I'm either working

1040
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: for my apartment or I now work at an office,

1041
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: but it's like a coworking space type of office. And

1042
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: if you were to say, hey, do you know anybody?

1043
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: What are their names? I would tell you Nope, and

1044
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. So the embarrassment factor for me is

1045
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: pretty low, So I would take the one day that's wild.

1046
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: I would probably not show up the next day, and

1047
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: the day after that we're like, are you the maybe

1048
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: not maybe I don't remember, and that would be that. See.

1049
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: But once you get to our ripe old age, Dan, right,

1050
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: the wedgie stops being a funny thing. Like if somebody

1051
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: came and pulled my underwear up to my shoulders unannounced. Iff, Yeah,

1052
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: some guys with trench coats got out of a van

1053
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: right and just did this to me. In most places

1054
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: that I think i'd find myself, people will be alarmed

1055
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 2: by that. I wouldn't even need to feel embarrassed. People

1056
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: would feel sorry for me.

1057
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: Remember the time in I mean, we're roughly the same

1058
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: age in popular TV shows and cartoons where pantsing was

1059
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: a thing, and not only would it be a pantsing,

1060
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: it would reveal hilarious heart boxer shorts. Yeah that's right,

1061
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: that's right. That was the thing, you know, across many shows.

1062
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: So let's let's do this.

1063
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Weggie versus pantsing, which is worse.

1064
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: It's definitely Weggie. There's no pain in pantsing. You're like, oh,

1065
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: you pulled out my pants and yep, it considerable that

1066
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm wearing black boxer briefs all fact. Well, you're saying

1067
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: Weggi's worse. Yeah, but I mean, as try to answer

1068
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: this question if you're fourteen. Weggie versus the feared Tapper.

1069
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: Tapper's rough the aka the Bangkok. I went probably two

1070
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: years of my adolescent life in constant fear of the Tapper.

1071
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: What one specific person doing it or that just became

1072
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: the culture. It was just I was just the culture. Yeah. Oh,

1073
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: infrastructure at Northampton High School. Yeah, a lot to be control. Nope, zero,

1074
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: what else do we got here?

1075
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: Tapper versus falling asleep and having someone drow in your face?

1076
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: Uh, oh man. In high school, middle school, probably tappers

1077
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: over quickly, you don't. If you're not watching that off,

1078
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: you're you might be known as like, hey, you have

1079
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: the butt cheek, but your sharpy butt cheek guy right

1080
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: for like three straight years. So yeah, probably tapper tapper

1081
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: versus dead leg Oh god, I got so many dead

1082
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: legs in high school. Yeah, I know, people are just

1083
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: shocked to hear this. That was the big thing at

1084
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: my school. It was dead legs and dead arms. Yeah,

1085
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: and it was the freaking worst. Where do you want

1086
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: to go next? All right? I asked people to ask

1087
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: us about haircuts. How much you pay for your haircut

1088
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: dollars plus tip? Okay, I pay thirty one probably, I

1089
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 1: mean you adjust for New York. But how much would

1090
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: you how much do you tip on twenty not twenty percent?

1091
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: So you're thrown in four bucks? Usually? Yeah? Yeah, I

1092
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: do five, six, seven, depending on how happy I am

1093
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: with it. I think that's pretty nice. Where's the question

1094
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: about timing a haircut? Oh? Okay? Yeah, so the question

1095
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: was what is the timing like of a haircut? Like,

1096
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: let's say you have a graduation, you have a wedding,

1097
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: you have some you're going on TV. You're appearing on

1098
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: camera for whatever reason you are, you know, going on

1099
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: a first date that you know about a week or

1100
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: two ahead, and you know you need a haircut and

1101
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: you want to look good. What how far in advanced

1102
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: you get that haircut that your hair looks optimal to

1103
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: U to I guess both look great. Recover from a

1104
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: bad haircut or a bad part of your haircut. You

1105
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: need to have that recovery built in. Look like your

1106
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: truest self. Because I should have done. I did a

1107
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: week before my wedding, and I should it done.

1108
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: Toot gotta go a week and a half. Yeah, I

1109
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: think the half week and a half for me is

1110
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: right in the sweet spot. But this, by the way,

1111
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: this might be my favorite question we received all years.

1112
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: So far from Todd. What's the worst haircut you've received

1113
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: When I was younger? I had When I was younger,

1114
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: I had a bowl cut that I was very proud of.

1115
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: Was it and from an actual hair cuttery or was

1116
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: it from a family member? No, No, it was from

1117
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: a licensed haircutter person. Where was it given?

1118
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: It was given at the old place he used to

1119
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: go to get my haircut.

1120
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Speaker 1: Okay, I was really hoping you like was good.

1121
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: But here to your point, The worst haircut I got

1122
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: was when I first started going to this place. It

1123
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: was going to a new place after the old woman

1124
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: who cut my hair retired from cutting hair. Yep, And

1125
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: I walked into this joint and I had a bowl

1126
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: cut I was very proud.

1127
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: Of mm hmmm. And she proceeded to cut it off

1128
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: and I was crestfallen. Dan, have you ever gotten a

1129
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: haircut that was so bad where you look at it

1130
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: and you're like, just buzz it all. I've never had that.

1131
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: I've never that was your hair.

1132
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: No, but that was probably the closest I've ever been.

1133
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: I've done that my worst haircut. When I moved to

1134
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: New York. I made the mistake of going to a

1135
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: place that it's just like, oh, it has good YELP reviews. Yeah,

1136
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: and the person cutting my hair, I could not communicate

1137
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: with them in the way that I wanted to about

1138
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: what I wanted, and I ended up with a pretty significant,

1139
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: like high top fade. It was. It was it was

1140
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: bad enough that, like, you never really noticed when somebody

1141
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: gets a bad haircut, unless it's a really bad haircut,

1142
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: Unless it's noticeably and dramatically different than a person's normal look.

1143
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: And I remember I went to like a backyard cookout,

1144
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: barbecue whatever. I don't care about the nomenclature. And my

1145
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: friend Lindsey, who by the way, tied it to the

1146
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: solid verbal, did the voice for our first Was it

1147
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: the fantasy things? Who did? It? Wasn't fantasy things? Yeah?

1148
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: Well I forget what it was. Yeah, it was fantasy thing,

1149
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: I forget, but she did think it was maybe.

1150
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: She looked at me, and I didn't think. I thought

1151
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 1: I looked different, but not dramatically different. And she looked

1152
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: at me and she started laughing hysterically, and she said,

1153
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: who did you hurt to have this done to you?

1154
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: Who held you down against your will and tortured your scalp?

1155
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: It was really bad. It was very bad. I wore

1156
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: hats for a couple of weeks.

1157
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, week and a half, though you get what you

1158
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: paid half week and half. Yeah, okay, let's.

1159
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: Go to this one. Well we can ask me and

1160
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: Sean asked a question like that because we were talking

1161
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,479
Speaker 1: about fantasy things. Yeah, please name your top five solid

1162
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: verbal episodes. Let's pat ourselves on the back. What are

1163
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 1: you most proud of? Either recently or in the history

1164
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: the show I am very proud of. I can't rank

1165
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: them from one to but the history of the solid

1166
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: verbal time go back in the history of the solid verbal.

1167
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: What's your favorite the show where we talked about the history.

1168
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: I love that episode. It was fun. It was a

1169
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: fun one.

1170
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: I love that episode history of I really enjoyed the

1171
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: Live Fantasy Things show that we did in Chicago.

1172
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: That was wonderful. Shout out Nate Stanley. Yeah, this past August.

1173
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: That was a good one for me.

1174
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed speaking of like the serial and s

1175
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: Town mold of podcasting. I really enjoyed the recruiting show

1176
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: that we.

1177
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: Did, Yes, absolutely with Lindsay Theory and Brendan Huffman. We

1178
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: had a dad of a Blue Chipper on. Yeah. Really

1179
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: enjoyed doing that show. But Elliott was on that. Yep,

1180
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: what else? I love the verbies from Radio City Musical. Oh,

1181
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: that was so good. I thought that was a revelation.

1182
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: That's right, that was our first pray into the like

1183
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: world of post production.

1184
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I thought that was a tremendous show. I thought

1185
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: the Emo Show with Bill Barnwell was exceptionally fun. My

1186
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: favorite shows are the ones that aren't necessarily themed. But

1187
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: sometimes we will randomly just hit a groove with a

1188
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: show in like a week seven recap show or a

1189
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: week eleven preview show where I catch you shot out

1190
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: of a cannon. I feel good and we are just

1191
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: Stockton and stocked in. We're just we're just passing the

1192
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: ball back and forth and nobody's really taking good shots,

1193
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: but we are. We're running the two man, we even

1194
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: a fun way. Those are generally my favorites, but in

1195
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: terms of theme shows, those are up. I love the

1196
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: Secret Garbage Show. Yeah, yeah, right. The Secret Garbage Show

1197
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 1: with a secret garbage bracket was quite fun. I remember

1198
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: exactly where I was when we recorded it, which is

1199
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: a good sign. So we are going to we have

1200
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: a lot of time before the season start, so we're

1201
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: gonna be doing more fun shows. I thought last year's

1202
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: show so last year. I believe it was last year

1203
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: where I did it solo, and believe me, it was

1204
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: not my favorite show because of me, one of my favorites.

1205
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: But when we had Chrispy Brown on to talk about

1206
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: communication in terms of recent shows, like where you really

1207
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: got nerdy information, that was that was one of my

1208
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: favorites to just be involved and not to actually host.

1209
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's close it out with this one. Yeah,

1210
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: unless you've got a bunch more you want to get

1211
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: to this one.

1212
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: I got a bunchy. We'll do it quickly.

1213
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: Let me close out my portion of this with this question.

1214
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: Got any favorite moments from the old NCAA video game series?

1215
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: A favorite game you played? Building a Bama crushing powerhouse

1216
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: out of a lollly G five team, et cetera, et cetera.

1217
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: I had a situation. I found a glitch back in

1218
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: the day. Yeah, I was in college. I want to

1219
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: say it was my sophomore or junior year, and I

1220
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 2: did the thing that I'm sure a lot of guys

1221
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: did in college. We started a group dynasty. Everyone picked

1222
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: their team. You would trade off and on with the

1223
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: controller recruiting your guys, handed off to someone else, and

1224
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: move move on. Sometimes you'd be up till three am.

1225
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: You know how it is.

1226
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: Back in the day, Dan, I picked Arizona State, huh,

1227
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: because I think there was a limit on the number

1228
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: of stars your program could have. Maybe they were like

1229
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: a three star, two star at the time. I don't remember,

1230
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: but I found a glitch I didn't like most of

1231
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: my players. You're a big glitch finder, that's low key

1232
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: what defines you. You're about finding life's glitches and exploit

1233
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: I sort of am yeah now that you mention it. Yeah,

1234
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: I found a glitch and I didn't mean to. But

1235
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: the glitch was that if you cut too many players,

1236
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: you could sort of implode a program m. I didn't

1237
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 2: like most of my team, and I cut more than

1238
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: I had to. What was the number fifty four or

1239
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: fifty five you had to.

1240
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: Get down to?

1241
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I took my team all the way down to

1242
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: about thirty six.

1243
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: Oh god. And I never really recovered from that, dan

1244
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: uh huh.

1245
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: Never really recovered from that, And I found myself in

1246
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: a situation where I had essentially broken the game. That

1247
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: to me was probably my favorite moment.

1248
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: Not because of Donkey Kong killscreen.

1249
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: Exactly, not because I had any great accomplishment right on

1250
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: the field, but because I had done something that nobody

1251
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: else there could have ever envisioned, and I literally broke

1252
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: the team.

1253
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: The only real like, I don't have any fond memories

1254
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: about playing it by myself or playing it online against people.

1255
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: It's fine. It's fun in college with the original tie

1256
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: shout out Mike, who was my co host on the

1257
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: college radio show Morning Wood at the University of Oregon.

1258
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: We would play all the time, and he liked after

1259
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: he would intercept a ball, he would say interception special, like,

1260
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, he had a secret play that couldn't help

1261
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: but have an interception as a result of the play.

1262
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: And I caught onto it, and it was like he

1263
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: just would call it quarters coverage or something like that.

1264
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: He would basically call whatever had the most colorful circles

1265
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield. Sure, and I would just run

1266
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: down his throat and then he effectively stopped saying interception

1267
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: special after saying it for like a year, and it

1268
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: angered him to such a crazy degree. Not a huge,

1269
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: huge football fan, but he thought he had stumbled upon

1270
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: his own personal glitch, that's right, And then I just

1271
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: murdered him. The other thing is I would it was

1272
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, so it would have been NCAA

1273
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, So the year is two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three. It was a simpler time, ty us. He

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Speaker 1: was unbeatable. And if you would call like a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver screen followed up by neither a slant or like

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Speaker 1: a go route with not Mike Williams, but Ang Williams.

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Speaker 1: He was just unbeatable. And that was again against Mike

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Speaker 1: the non interception special and it just tortured him. It

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Speaker 1: was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Back in about maybe two thousand and six, two thousand

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Speaker 2: and seven, I had a group dynasty and online dynasty

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Speaker 2: type of setup and my team I think was Penn

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Speaker 2: State at the time, playing with about six or seven

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Speaker 2: other guys mm hmm. I recruited Leon Johnson, a dual

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Speaker 2: threat quarterback class was a tank, a t bow build. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he was virtually unstoppable. That that singular moment that

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Speaker 2: recruit changed the history of my program forever. Leon Johnson.

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Speaker 2: You still remember his face. I still remember his fake

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Speaker 2: name to this day.

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Speaker 1: What was the name of it was, Jerem It was

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Liggins. Ask you remember Jeremy Liggins. I do. He

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01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: was pushing three three bills and playing quarterback and I

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01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: think he was a JC and that went to Ole Miss. Yeah.

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01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 1: So you had the proto Jeremy Lincolns. I did you

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Speaker 1: had proto Jeremy.

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Speaker 2: I still remember his name and think about him fondly.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever played in a video game tournament. No really,

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01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: that's a shocking answer. Not an official tournament. But you've

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: never gone to like an arcade or a baseball card store,

1301
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,520
Speaker 1: or never have I have? I thought I was amazing

1302
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: at Techmo super Bowl. I just beat up the computer

1303
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: all day, every day, beat up my brothers all day.

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01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: Every day I went to It was like a comic

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01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: card store. They set up a bunch of TVs just

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01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood, just in the San Fernando Valley, and

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: played in a Techmo super Bowl tournament. They wiped the

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01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: floor with me. I was the mop. I got killed

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01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: so thoroughly every time there was like a loser's bracket. Nope,

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: gone that that that humbled me. Tie. Also played in

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01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: a Magic the Gathering tournament there, okay, sure how about that? Yeah,

1312
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: also didn't fare super well. Okay, but you know what

1313
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: you gotta try. You gotta you know, shoot or shoot.

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Speaker 1: That's what I did. Let's go rapid fire. You got like, okay,

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01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: soliverbal after hours, I got a few of these, Okay,

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01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: this one I really liked. Well, hold on, I got

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Speaker 1: a couple. Let's rapid fire. We got one about snaps

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01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: versus buttons for baby like onesies and outfits. Okay, I'm

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01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: gonna take you one step further. Magnets. They're a thing.

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: They have magnetic baby onesies where you just basically get

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: the two sides of the top close and they just snapshot. Eventually,

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01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to teach the solid baby how to

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01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: button up and snap up shirt or whatever. Right but

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01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 1: right now it's magic. What is them? Random slash best

1325
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: slash TV show movie whatever? Dan has watched while up

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01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: at odd hours with the new baby. I watch a

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01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: lot of YouTube on my TV. I watch food shows.

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01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: Munchies does a really good job. Bonappetite does a great job.

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01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,879
Speaker 1: There's a show called It's Alive with Brad Leoni. It's amazing,

1330
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Binging with Babbish, he does a great job. I watch

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01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: food shows the most random though. Those all food shows.

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: Food video that seems obvious for me to answer with,

1333
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: and just everybody knows that exists. I had a stretch

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01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: where I was up pretty consistently at like three four am,

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: feeding and soothing whatever, and I stumbled on, conservatively it's

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: an hour and a half, it might be an hour

1337
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: forty a. Essentially, it's a documentary that do you know

1338
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: what Ernie Ball is. No, I have no idea. Ernie

1339
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: Ball is a company that makes guitar strings. Okay, Ernie

1340
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: Ball did it documentary, and I assume they've done a

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01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: bunch of these with a bunch of different guitar players

1342
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: and musicians and stuff. They did it documentary with and

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01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: about and it's all first person. So he participated with

1344
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: Tom DeLong Blink onin eighty two, and this is relatively recently,

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 1: long after he left Blink, and it was about the

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01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: entire Blink history with photos and videos and everything like

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01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: that and stories and then talking about the breakup essentially,

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 1: I know Blink still exists with Matt Skiba, but it

1349
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: got pretty heavy and then he went into like his

1350
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: new gig, the new company he started basically trying to

1351
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: uncover CIA secrets about aliens and goes completely off off kilter.

1352
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: And this was over the course of whatever it is,

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01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: four or five six feedings where I'm just nerding out

1354
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: watching a Tom DeLong documentary on YouTube. Those are the

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01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: depths that you will go to just like play with

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: your brain just enough to stay awake. But also, okay, yes,

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01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: you're dealing with the bottle cool. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: the most random thing. I also watch a lot of photography,

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01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: like really nerdy photography videos like Jody with and I

1360
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: will walk into the room and I'm watching a light

1361
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: room tutorial on our TV about how to play with

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01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: the tone curve. I know what you're thinking. It's really

1363
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: good that you found somebody to marry and deal with

1364
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: your dumbness. So that's probably. In terms of shows, sex

1365
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: Education on Netflix, really really good British Jillian Anderson, sort

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01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: of John Hughes Ish Dating Around also on Netflix. And

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: I also enjoyed the Missus Maisle Show. I was good.

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01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: Great baking show over here. Oh, great British bake off

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01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: baking show, wonderful. All right, give me one more one

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01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: one or two more goes. Yes, do a three hour show.

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01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: Let's Joe Rogan this um okay. Somebody asked about the

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Speaker 1: souved movement. I know you're pro I'm in. Somebody asked

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: us about cast iron ver stainless steel. I know you're

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01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: you're all in on that, that beautiful seer of cast iron.

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01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: All in on cast iron. Yeah, let's finish here. We

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: got a number of good questions. Third dates. I don't

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01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: think we've quite gotten to. Just ask a lot of questions.

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: You'll get to a third date. Don't be creepy. You'll

1379
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: get to a third date, and don't expect anything on

1380
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: any date. Just let the game come to you, like

1381
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: a good game manager, let the game come to you.

1382
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: You just got to read, read, and react. The last

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01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: question comes to us from I think is a Gary.

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: No excuse me, Justin Gary did ask a question about

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: limited space child rearing in big cities. It's rough. Go

1386
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: outside as often as you can. That's my answer to Gear.

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01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: Justin says, I'm diabetic, so my choices for picking out

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: on Saturdays are generally limited, which means carbohydrates. I assume sugars, breads,

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, which are key to a lot of

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01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: sauces and vehicles. Wings, however, are always available and can

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Speaker 1: fit in my diet. What do you think are the

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01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: best rubs or sauces to add to wings? I tend

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Speaker 1: to gravitate to jerk glazes or sauces for mine. Love

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01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: a good jerk. Yeah, that's what the phrasing I understand.

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Speaker 2: I'm into the rubs, man, rubbin and jerkin. That's right,

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01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about here. What is doing the

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01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 2: craft show.

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Speaker 1: What is your what is your your seasoning choice?

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, with wings, you gotta go with the flats.

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 2: You got it out of the flats. Now, I didn't

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01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: know until last summer that I.

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01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: Could do this. Yeah, this is all pretty new to

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01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: me as well.

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01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: And I think it's only the places that are, you know,

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: a little bit more popular with the wing eating crowd, right,

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: that know how to handle this. But if you go

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Speaker 2: and ask for the flats as opposed to the trum,

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: you go to a butcher, you go to no, no, no,

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01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm talking, I go to the restaurant in order flats.

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01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but what about But I'm saying, if you

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Speaker 2: prefer the rub, what is the rub that you like?

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Speaker 1: The rub? So, first and foremost you need the flats. Yeah,

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01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: that's true surface area. But secondly, I prefer a good

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01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: old bay rub. Ooh, I like that answer. Prefer good

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01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: old bay rub, glery salt.

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01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of an old bay rub doesn't

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01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 2: quite have the messy quality that you get from any

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01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: of the sauces, but also gives you enough of that kick,

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01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: You get enough of that crispiness that comes with the

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01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: wing if it's been done correctly. For me, it's the

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01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: flats with the combination of an old bay rub Dan.

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: Sure, I think it's a great answer. You can go

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01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: Asian without the honey or brown sugar element and do

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01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: like a soy garlic ginger sort of. I don't know

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01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 1: if you marinade, but you know, I think you can

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01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: make a sauce out of that if you look that up.

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01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: Lemon pepper a classic. I don't know if you've watched

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01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 1: Atlanta at all. I know about like JR Crickets, the

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01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 1: famous wing place in Atlanta. Yep, but there's lemon pepper

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01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: and there's lemon pepper wet. I'm, you know, the worst

1431
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: person to be the one describing it and talking about it.

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01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: But lemon pepper is delicious as a combination as a rub.

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01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: And you can add lemon pepper seasoning to like a

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01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: buffalo sauce. That adds a nice little twist. I would say,

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01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: aside from wings specifically, if you're looking for ways to

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01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: eat well in terms of eat like deliciously on game day,

1437
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: just throw everything that you can on a grill on

1438
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: a grill. I would love I wouldn't love to have

1439
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 1: diabetes let's be clear. But to have an excuse me

1440
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: like I have to eat as much actual real food

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01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: as possible. If I can just grill a bunch of

1442
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: giant green onions and chicken and carnea soada and throw

1443
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: tortillas on there and throw onions on there and just

1444
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: really get good at grilled Mexican food whatever. And I

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01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: believe corn tortillas are gluten free and they don't have

1446
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: carbohydrates so minute, so that's a good option there. But uh, yeah,

1447
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: I was just anything you can throw on a grill that,

1448
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: you know, an excuse to pile up vegetables and meat

1449
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: is not the worst thing in the world. There you go.

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01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, covered a lot of ground here today, Daniel,

1451
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: Yes it is though. That's real good squarely the off season.

1452
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: Soliverble at gmail dot com is always how you can

1453
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: get in touch with us. We're also on Twitter, We're

1454
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: on Facebook, We're on Instagram. We also have a subreddit,

1455
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: Reddit dot com slash r slash solid verbal. We didn't

1456
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 2: start it. It was started by Oh it's great though.

1457
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 2: We're in there some superverbowlers. Yeah, we moonlight over there

1458
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 2: from time to time. But if you're a fan of

1459
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 2: the show. It's read at dot com slash r slash

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01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: solid verbal if we pop in there for some Rubin

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01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 2: and Jerkin.

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01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: That's right.

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01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: They've got some exciting conversations that go on around the

1464
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: shows after we post them, So go on and check

1465
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: that out if you're a fan.

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01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: Uh, hopefully you got in on the bracket pool. M hmm.

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01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: If you did, we will be.

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01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 2: Watching like a hawk to see who comes in firster,

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01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: maybe second, third, I don't know. We want to give

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: some shirts away, Dan, this is the way this works.

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01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: But we did get a great response to that. Will

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01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 2: be following along with your Oregon Ducks, hopefully over the

1473
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,839
Speaker 2: course of the next couple of weeks and not just tomorrow.

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: Do you like anybody because you have? You know you're

1475
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: Alma Mater and Notre Dame, both not in the tournament.

1476
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: I haven't watched a minute of college basketball this year.

1477
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm the wrong person task I did watch.

1478
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 2: I did lose the Loulville Wouiville survivor pick that I had,

1479
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: so I've got a couple others that I can rely on,

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01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 2: but for now I'm down a man.

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Speaker 1: Richard Patino, right, I've been doing a lot of March

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Speaker 1: Madness content for ESPN Plus Action Network. So I actually

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Speaker 1: I am now caught up to speed. I'm rooting for Oregon,

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Speaker 1: but there's I just want fun, I just want fun times.

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Speaker 1: I actually I watched for the first time in a

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Speaker 1: long time, I watched non conference college basketball because I

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Speaker 1: wanted to watch Bull Bowl for the Ducks. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, Oregon beats Syracuse sitting fifty four

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Speaker 1: percent of his threes. This is up. Nope, he's hurt,

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Speaker 1: he is done. Oh so then I picked it up

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Speaker 1: in the back twelve tournament. All right, Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: to everyone out there for downloading the show.

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Speaker 2: We will be back next week. Talk more college football.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, stay tuned to us on social and

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Speaker 2: Yes silverblat gmail dot com for that guy over there,

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Speaker 2: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty hilde.

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Speaker 1: Brandt, while we're here in eastern Pennsylvania. Will catch you

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Speaker 1: on everythion times. Base Peace,