1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: What is everybody? Welcome in to a Wednesday edition of 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Hounday Texans Radio Studio. I 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: am John Harris, your host, and I can't tell you 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: how good it is to say those words. Haven't said 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: them in a while. Joining me to kick it off 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: and help me kind of get back in the groove, 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: is my man. The voice of the Texans, Mark Van remark, 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: you've been holding down the fort. Do you leave town 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: and look what happened? What is going on? Yeah, you're 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: in La sunning yourself. Actually you're you're helping out your 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: daughter who's an actress and she's doing the La scene 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: right now. I make it sound like she's hanging out 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: with Paris Hilton, but maybe she will someday. You never know. 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: She's been in some short films and things like that. 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: So good luck to you and the fam, and thank 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: you and your daughter. So that's very cool. But yeah, 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: some things have been happening here, and I think that 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: this is sort of a fluid thing going on here. 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: But yeah, like I've said many times this week and 20 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: late last week, they've got a management team in place 21 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: running football operations and cal McNair oversees it. All, so 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: he's been here, he's been in the building. They they 23 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: have it figured out for now, and I say for 24 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: now only because that's just my take on it. Johnny. 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: I think what they're gonna do is go with this 26 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: and take it from there. And I don't know what 27 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: that really means. Maybe maybe a candidate emerges who they 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: absolutely love, but maybe a candidate doesn't emerge. And I 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: said last night, I don't know if they goes through 30 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: a draft last night. Although they have the staff to 31 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: do it, they got plenty of guys to handle things, 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: just as many as before virtually really, so let's just 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: see how it goes. It's a one day at a 34 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: time kind of thing. Well, here's mark the thing. I 35 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: thought a lot about this because I I heard Landry 36 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: Locker and John Lopez talking about this and they I 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: wanted to give a big facts to Sports Radio six 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: ten Armon Williams for sending his crew over there for 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: our Bear Bryant Award, our champions lunch, and we had 40 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: the corso was phenomenal. We had such a great time 41 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: talking to him, and then coach jumped on with Landry 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: and Lopez and I was listening driving up there. And 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: I was listening kind of as they were talking in 44 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: the in the area where we were just listening to 45 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: and they were talking about that situation. I think the 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: one thing that that is hard for people outside the 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: building is when you're talking about when you're talking about 48 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: personnel people. You're talking about director of player pro personnel, 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: director of pro personnel, director of college scouting, scouts, all 50 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. They're sort of like minor leaguers 51 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: for the most part, like you don't really know about them. 52 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: You know, if you're if you're an Astros fan, now 53 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: they're there. And I'm not saying all Astros fans. There 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: are some die hards. Yeah, they know everybody around rock 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: or whatever, they know all that. But for the most part, 56 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: the fans know about the Astros. You know about the 57 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: big club, and then when somebody moves up, then they 58 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: start to find out about them. Obviously a lot of 59 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: people know about your Don Alvarez and that, and he's 60 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: really kind of lived up to it. But there's some 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: Asters fans, what's this guy all about. I think it's 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: sort of that way for NFL personnel departments. We have 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: a chance being his building, so we get to know them. 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: We've gotten a chance to know some of the guys that, however, 65 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: kind of be abandoned about it what they're gonna do 66 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: with the personnel. And I feel totally confident that because 67 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: I and we know, we know those guys, we know 68 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: what kind of football guys they are. But to the 69 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: general public it was like, I don't know, it's just 70 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: a name to me at that point. But for us, 71 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: because we've seen them, we see what they do, we 72 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: see how good they're We've talked to them about football. 73 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: We've talked to them and realized these are football guys. 74 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: But the general public doesn't know that. But then all 75 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you become the GM, and then the 76 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: spotlight's on you. You get to hear more from them, 77 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: they get to run a draft, then fans start to 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: be able to craft their opinions based on that. Brian 79 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Gaine was like that. I mean, obviously he was a 80 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: guy that was not the GM, but he was here 81 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: for a few years, then he became the GM. Well, 82 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: when he was not the GM, nobody really mentioned Brian 83 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: at all, But then he became the GM, and obviously 84 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a talking point. But I think That's 85 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: the way it is with the personnel department is because 86 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: we know those guys, we're probably more apt to say, yeah, 87 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: we trust them because we know them and we know 88 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: what they can do. The fans are gonna be, oh, well, 89 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: skeptical this plan. I don't know that guy. That's the same. 90 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Let mean, you think about a draft, right if you 91 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: if you draft a player like a Titus Howard, or 92 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: you draft a player that people have not heard being 93 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: mentioned as a candidate for your team all of a sudden, 94 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: well it's a bad draft. Why, well, I don't know 95 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: that guy. Well, that's kind of the way this is 96 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: in some sense when you look at it, Well, you 97 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: have guys who have the same titles of candidates that 98 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: they well are one particular candidate that was of interest 99 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: to them, and you know it's Matt Basergan has the 100 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: same title as Nick Assario. People have reported about Mantiosa 101 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: Ford last time the Texans were searching for a general 102 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: manager when they when they hired Brian Gaine and osa 103 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: Ford is director of college scouted for the Patriots. Well 104 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: they have one here, right, they have James Lipford. So 105 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, here pro personnel, you have a lot of 106 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: guys here who have been a lot around for some 107 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: of them have been around for a long time. And 108 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: speed of osa Fort. By the way, it's funny because 109 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: Drew Jordan and now we're looking for old an old 110 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: photo of something. Did you see this and we're looking 111 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: at old thumbnails and osa Fort was on this staff 112 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: right a long time ago, about fifteen years ago, but 113 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: he was here in this building. So it's just funny 114 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: to see how football is and people come and go, 115 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: but there is a big staff over twenty people here 116 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: working in football operations. So and believing constructions going on 117 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: taking place here, building or upgrading facilities. They did a 118 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: ton last year, they're continuing continuing to do a lot. 119 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: Cal McNair's behind it all obviously, with Bill O'Brien, Jack 120 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: Easter be everybody involved as well. So it's it's fun 121 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: to see it all take shape. And I know that 122 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people want definitive information and you might 123 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: not get that right away, but to be patient. There 124 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: will be a season, there will be a team. There 125 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: is a team, and it's gonna be fun. Yeah, that's 126 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: the thing. And Drew and I talked about this on 127 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: a new lab. You've talked about this, We've talked about this. 128 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: No matter what's going on, Number four is gonna be here, 129 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: ninety nine here, tens here. Yeah, that's a pretty darn 130 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: good start. You hope that you get ninety in the 131 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: building again, that's a pretty good start. You're not you're 132 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: not bringing You're not bringing uh, you know, plastic civil 133 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: war to a you know, to you know, find dining 134 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: if you will, which I'm okay with if you need to. 135 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: But you're not bringing plastic civil war. You know, you're not. 136 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: You're not. No offense to Brian hoy or Ryan Mallett 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: or Ryan Fitzpatrick, You're probably you're not bringing any of 138 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: those guys. You have one of the best teams you've 139 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: ever had. You just won eleven games, second most in 140 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: franchise history. It's a different schedule, But what did we 141 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: say a two thousand and twelve what did we say? 142 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: We're the Texans were coming off two thousand and eleven 143 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: and the thinking was, well, that was a really fun season. 144 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: Unfortunately the quarterback got hurt, but you still won ten 145 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: games this two thousand and twelve season. Though, all right, 146 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: you get the quarterback back, but the schedule is brutal. 147 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: People said that you were facing Aaron Rodgers, You're facing 148 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Joe Flacco, who is really hot at 149 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: the time. In fact, the Ravens won the Super Bowl 150 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: that year. You had a lot of tough outs on 151 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: that schedule, and you went twelve and four. So and 152 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was way better in his rookie year than 153 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: anybody could have imagined. Right, So and so the schedule 154 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: is even tougher than you thought, and you still won 155 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: twelve games in that environment. And I'm not saying it's 156 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: apples to apples, but sometimes you say, oh, the schedule 157 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be brutal. Just let it play out. Okay, 158 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: let's take the team into the schedule. See what happens. 159 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: You got the coaching staff, you've got all the players 160 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned. Let's go. If you were going if the 161 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: draft was next month and you were in this situation, Yeah, okay, 162 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, Okay, you had somebody who is 163 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: in charge of evaluations. But I say in charge. They've 164 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: always done things in a collaborative, collective sort of way, 165 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: so you're a long way from that process. This would 166 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: be like, you know, I can understand people freaking out 167 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: if the scouts don't hit the road to take in 168 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: all the college games and get the information on the 169 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: college circuit. They're gonna do that. They've got the people 170 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: in place to do that. So I'm sure we'll have 171 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: some definition or more definition before we get to that point. 172 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: I would think. So let's just see what happens. I'm 173 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: with you on that the process. And then you may 174 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: have said that the train doesn't stop rolling, and I 175 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: think that's that's a big one to know because you're 176 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: thinking about GM, you're thinking about that process. The scouts 177 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: going on the road, they'll go on the road in July, 178 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: late July. They're not gonna not go. They're gonna go. 179 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: Drew made the point yesterday. Most of them are many 180 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: of them don't even live here. They're living there parts 181 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: of the country where they scout, Yeah, where they're in 182 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: charge of a particular areas, and they come back time 183 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: to time to give the information and have discussions about 184 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: what they found. They'll be here for the first few 185 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: days in training camp and then they go off and 186 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: then they're just they're just beating the bushes looking for 187 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: players and they've they've already had a I don't know 188 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: the right way of saying this. It's like a scouting 189 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: convention basically, and I remember seeing it on the New 190 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: York Giants did like a six part say I think 191 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: it may be an ANAFIL network and fil network did it. 192 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: I think they called it Building the Giants And it 193 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: was the year that they drafted Odell Beckham junior. Right. 194 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: They followed the area scouts. They did interviews the area 195 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: scouts and all different you know trips, and to kick 196 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: off the scouting season, they would get all the NFL 197 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: teams together and maybe as a representative or two from 198 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: each team, and they were getting a room and they 199 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: would go through the potential prospects, the senior prospects, and 200 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: they would be presented like all these here here, all 201 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: all the prospects, and so you kind of it kind 202 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: of gives the scouts a starting point, so to speak, 203 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: and they've gone through that process, they'll continue to go 204 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: through it. That process isn't going to slow down. I 205 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: think that is probably the one thing that stood out 206 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: on when I when I got the news on Friday, 207 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, Okay, this is how I know people 208 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: are reacting right now. Back in He's like, I know 209 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: this is how people reacting. There's a bit of panic, like, 210 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this guy that kissia was a guy 211 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: and sports radio is telling us is the guy we 212 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: should love. And he's a paid guy, and he's a 213 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: smart guy and all it's kind. He's really good. And 214 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: then I when I saw the statement come from Cali, 215 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: knew how people were going to react. And my first 216 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: thought was, nothing's gonna slow down. Nothing. Now, I'm not 217 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: gonna say nothing's gonna change that nothing will change because 218 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: things are gonna change. I mean, that's obviously inevitableness, but 219 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: show must go on. But it's the things that you 220 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: have to do, the nuts and bolts, going and visiting players, 221 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: going and visiting universities. All those things are going to continue. 222 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Extensions are going to be signed by some players in 223 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: the building already potentially, you know guys that are drafted 224 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: in fifteen or sixteen. Those extensions are gonna be signed 225 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: yet again, because Chris Olsen's still here, one of the 226 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: best in the league, if not the best in the 227 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: league at contract management, if you will, He's unbelievable at that. 228 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: So those things aren't going to stop. They're not gonna 229 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: get in the way. Is having a GM important, absolutely, 230 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: but this situation where if you don't have one, then 231 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: you've got people that can do the things that are 232 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: needed to keep the train going. Because last thing you 233 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: want to do, especially in this division with the Titans 234 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: having a good draft, with the Colts where they are, 235 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: you don't want to fall behind, and I don't think 236 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: you will at this particular moment. You've got to continue 237 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: to do good football things and make good football decisions. 238 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: I said this either was an interview. I can't remember 239 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: where I did this interview. I was talking about is 240 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: something that you mentioned, Mark, and that was the shared approach. 241 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that everybody's got to be on the same page, 242 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: but everybody has the opportunity to share. This is what 243 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: I think a player's assets are, this is what I 244 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: think his liabilities are. Let's come to agreement. How do 245 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: we feel about this guy. Yes, somebody has got to 246 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: be in charge of sending the card in and that 247 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: was Rick, and then it was Brian, and somebody's gonna 248 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: be in charge of that when it comes to the 249 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: draft all that kind of stuff. But to me, in 250 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: this organization, there have been two people that that particular 251 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: individual makes the decision. That's what it's that's what you're 252 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: going with, and that's Bob McNair and Cal McNair. Boom done. 253 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: And those are the two people that have made those 254 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: decisions when they need to make them. They're the only 255 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: ones other than that. It is a shared collaborative effort 256 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: and that will not change. They're the tiebreakers, right, they 257 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: break the time TI where because Rick Smith and Bill O'Brien, 258 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak, they both reported to Bob McNair. 259 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: Charlie Casually Dom Capers both reported to Bob McNair. That's 260 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: how the structure has always been here. Now it's gonna 261 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: be a little bit different now, but still cal McNair 262 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: is at the top to break ties, to settle things, 263 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: to go over what needs to be gone over. And 264 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: he's in the building a lot, like I said, so 265 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: he's evaluating. Look, we said that they went through an evaluation. 266 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: They decided they needed better performance at the general manager spot. Okay, 267 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: got it, But I think I use the word yesterday 268 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: processing there. They're in a process of continuing to go 269 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: over this stuff. But they feel like they've got a 270 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: good team in play, so we'll go from there. Now, 271 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: will they say something more official on it? Look when 272 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: they do, if they do, well, it's coming down on Friday. 273 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: It's coming down on Friday. Oh yeah, if it's gonna happen, 274 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: If it's gonna happen, it's going to happen. Fifty five, 275 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: we will be on the air. It's gonna happen. I'll 276 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: have a completely different show plan. But you know what, 277 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: we could shift years, no problem. Mark. I got on 278 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: a plane and they tell you go to airplane mode. 279 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: All right, go to airplane mode. I mean it's funny 280 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: because we joke in some sense about millennials or gen 281 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: Zers or a lot of people don't go to airplane mode. 282 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: I know I probably shouldn't have, but I did. I 283 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: want the airplane mode. And you know, people always joke 284 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: about not having that access for gen Zers and millennials. 285 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: I think people of my age group, maybe older our 286 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: our age group, they're the ones that have the hardest 287 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: time dealing with it. Like I was, I was trying 288 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: to not look at my phone, trying to like I 289 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: was just playing a game problem going to airplane mode, Johnny. 290 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: I love going to airplane mode because I know I'm 291 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: gonna get two or three hours of uninterrupted reading or 292 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: whatever I decided I was having. Fo I knew something 293 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: was gonna have. I just knew what told me. And 294 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: then when we we landed and my phone just went, 295 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, what just happened? And so now I'm 296 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: trying to explain to my daughter what's going on. And 297 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: so basically we had to go from lax to a 298 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: town called Palmdale for her to take a basically a 299 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: high school equivalents test in that to help yeah in 300 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: that state, to kind of help her with some of 301 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: her acting roles. So she's still gonna do her senior year, 302 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: but she had to take this test and wanted to 303 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: take it because it would kind of open up some opportunity. Actually, 304 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: we won't know. It's it's like the g R. Yes, 305 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: she thought you did right, she thought you did Okay. 306 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: The math was tricky. So I'm glad no one ran 307 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: that opportunity by me my junior year. When I got 308 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: done with it, I would have been like, I'm out 309 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: of here. She still was gonna do her senior year 310 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: until graduate, but she wanted to do this because it 311 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: might open up some roles. So we had two and 312 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: a half hours to drive, and I mean, we're just 313 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: bumper to bump her. Basically it's a it's about an 314 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: hour and ten minute drive, but it took her two 315 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: and a a half hours. Yeah, it's California, so we were 316 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: right up four oh five. And so I'm trying to 317 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: explain to her as I'm kind of in traffic, I'm 318 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: learning more and more about this, and I'm just trying 319 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: to explain to her and She's like, Okay, well what 320 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: does that mean? And I'm oh, baby, it's like trying 321 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: to explain what's going on. Here's the Halfcaden story really 322 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: offering charges dropped and the Texas about the contract clause 323 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: and apparently nobody did. And I gotta tellue this one 324 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: little side note on that, even when I do a 325 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: contract with somebody, it's got to go through our General 326 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: Council here and they send it to the league. The 327 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: league gets a lot of contracts, right, I don't I 328 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: don't know this for a fact, but I don't think 329 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: there are too many contracts you can enter two with 330 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: into into with almost anybody as a club without running 331 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: it through the league. They want to know what you're doing. 332 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: So it's pretty interesting that way. I don't want to 333 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: say there's a lot I want to say. I'm not content. 334 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: I said the other day, I said team Show. I 335 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about that too many more times. Okay, good, 336 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: that's fine, like mentioning names of potential future candidates. Don't 337 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: want to do that. Here's the thing. I said this 338 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: during the draft. I say, everybody I talked to you 339 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: about the draft in particular, nothing surprises me. Yeah, that's good. 340 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: Nothing nothing surprises me. I'm I go, whoa, Okay, then 341 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: see that coming, But nothing surprises me as soon as 342 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I saw that from May Show's coming. Nothing should surprise 343 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: you on or off the field in this league. Now, 344 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, people talk to me all the time, I say, well, 345 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: what about the Rams do they surprise you? Well, Sean mcvah, 346 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, really, when Sean McVeigh got hired, you thought 347 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: they were going to go to the super Bowl in 348 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: two years? You really did, did you? Now? You know, 349 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: take it over for Jeff Fisher. You thought that McVeigh 350 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: was gonna take them to the super Bowl. You know 351 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: what I say to people when they say there's anything 352 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: surprises like not after OJ I mean, I mean that 353 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: seriously because OJ was thought to be this larger than 354 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: life figure. I was like, not after OJ. And by 355 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: the way, I was in La on the twenty fifth anniversary. 356 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: Tweeted on Monday, the twentieth anniversary at the Bronco Chase 357 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: And so you saw it. You tweeted a Bronco. I know. 358 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: I tweeted Bronco and I joked it at the count 359 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: and that they wanted to give me that car and 360 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: down and June seventeenth in my teens, like right, I 361 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: don't want to fight Bronco. Come up next, little j 362 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: George Thomas. It's into why is big baby get in 363 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: trouble with it? At first? But he's coming around. Talk 364 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: George Thomas. Next right here in Texas, boxes back across 365 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: his body, hits Jordan Thomas for another touchdown. The Wizard 366 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: Watson talk it again, Yes he did, but it was 367 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: the guy that he found for both of those touchdowns. 368 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas. As a lot of people intrigued about twenty nineteen. 369 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from 370 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I am John and I 371 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: am really excited to be back talking to you about 372 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: the Texans. Been away for a few days. In those 373 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: three days, I don't shine shoes no more, as Joe, 374 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: as Joe Peschi was told, and Good Fellas, Hey, you 375 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: don't shine shoes no more, Go get your shine box. Yeah. 376 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: I watched that piece of Good Fellas probably about a 377 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: week ago, and I just couldn't get that out of 378 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: my head. Go get your shine box. It's one of 379 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: the greatest moments in movie. Hh. I love it, absolutely 380 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: love it. End of course, Joe PESHI kind of went 381 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: off the deep end. I guess if you will on 382 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: that one. So either way, I just love that. Either way, 383 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: been away and so I haven't had a chance to 384 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: talk too much about what's going on, But glad that 385 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: we can do that tonight on this Wednesday night, Los Angeles. 386 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: It was good, But I love being back here in 387 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: Houston and talking about my team, the Texans. Now you 388 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 1: heard those two clips that was in the Miami game. 389 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: Those are the first two touchdowns to Jordan Thomas's career. 390 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: He accounted for four of them, topping all the tight ends. 391 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: In fact, no other tight end had a touchdown catch 392 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: last year, but Jordan had four of them. How many 393 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: will they have this year. Who's to say, we'll talk 394 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the tight ends. Well, let's 395 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: hear from Big Baby himself, who goes into that nickname 396 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: with our own Drew Doherty. Where did it come from? 397 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: What does it mean? Will it stick? Fuck? Jordan Thomas 398 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: right now, please explain for the final time the Big 399 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: Baby nickname. The Big Baby nickname, I got it when 400 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: I entered junior college. Actually, Miss Danielle Brock was a 401 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: teacher of mine. She entered junior college at the age 402 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: of seventeen, but I was the biggest one on the team, 403 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: so yeah, I was the biggest and the youngest, so 404 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: gave me. She gave me that nickname when I entered 405 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: class and found out how I was, and ever since 406 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: then then her gril Bond. So actually that's like another 407 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: mother to me. Actually, what's this off season been like 408 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: for you? This au has been awesome. This is my 409 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: first off season, so I'm still kind of a rookie 410 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: to the all season, so I'm still learning, going going 411 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: through stuff. It's actually been good. I've been here half 412 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: most of all season. I went home for like two 413 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: to three weeks, so it's been good. When the season ended, 414 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: what was the main point that you had to prove 415 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: a part just being dependable because I know what I 416 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: could do and he knows what I could do. So 417 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: it's like just bringing that out of me, you know, 418 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: just being dependable, being consistent, just being a guy to 419 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: depend on. You said, you know what you can do 420 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: and he knows what you can do. When did you 421 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: know that? Did you always know that? Was there a 422 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: time last season where you figured it out? Last season? 423 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: It was up and downs, you know, because I was 424 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: still learning. I always knew what I could do, but 425 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: I just have to get comfortable. I'm getting to where, 426 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeling things out and I'm feeling like 427 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. Now we know you can catch. 428 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: We've also seen some of the videos off you blocking. 429 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: You knocked Von Miller off his feet. There's a touchdown 430 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: run later in the season where you just came in 431 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: and sealed off the edge. How much pride you take 432 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: in how you block, well, I took a lot of 433 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: pride in it, especially when it's a bigger guy and 434 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: a bigger name. You know, I just want to show 435 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: that I could I could do that. Taking pride in 436 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: that it gives me excitement when Lamar run for that 437 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: ninety seven yard touch down. One. I had a part 438 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: in that. So letting the running backs, it's like, I'm scorn. 439 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: How challenging was that for you? Because you played wide 440 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: receiver in Mississippi State and then it wasn't that challenging, 441 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: you know? Actually I played tight end and dream College 442 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: and junior college. In high school. I was just throwing 443 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: people around, you know, bigger than everybody. And I went 444 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: to Mississippi State. It was like, whoa, these guys are 445 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: just as big as me. I had to hit the 446 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: waiste a little bit more so then I got here. 447 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: But I'll take on any challenge, you know, I hit 448 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: it straight on. So it's not that challenging, you know. 449 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: It's just stuff I need to clean up with my 450 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: blocking them, so and I'm working on that now. One 451 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: of the things that we all like to do, I 452 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: guess as media members, we're looking for talking points and 453 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: all those things about breakout players. I'll get asked that. 454 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: I guarantee I'll get asked that sometime during training camp 455 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: breakout players. Now, Sometimes how different hosts or writers or 456 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: whomever asking a question thinks about a breakout player. I 457 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: remember one year, I think it was maybe been year two, 458 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: and somebody's like DeAndre Hoppins gonna be a breakout player, 459 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Like I's gonna be a breakout player. Oh, I know 460 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: what it was. It was Hard Knocks. Hard Knocks was 461 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: talking about DeAndre Hopkins is saying, yeah, you look at 462 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: a breakout in twenty fives, Like this year he had 463 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: almost eighty catches and over a thousand yards and he 464 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: had one of the greatest catches that didn't count. Ever 465 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: before Beckham Junior did it like he's gonna break out. No, 466 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: he's the guy. He's the man, So you gotta take 467 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt. But if you were 468 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: looking for a breakout unknown, you'll hear somebody say it. 469 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas the Texans. I'll be the first because I 470 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: do think that Big Baby. I love that story behind 471 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: his nickname Big Baby. I'm glad because it just personifies him. 472 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he really is just a young, big dude 473 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: that can do so many different things on a football field. 474 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: So I think you big Baby, Young Baby would have 475 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: been good too. Big Baby is perfect. But if you're 476 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: looking for that breakout player, I think Thomas is a 477 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: perfect guy. To put in that mix. First of all, 478 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: his offseason watching him catch passes, they're just just really 479 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: not a defense for a guy six five six six 480 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: two seventy five pounds and that runs as well as 481 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: he does. That played wide receiver at Mississippi State, which 482 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: should be quick to tell you, Yeah, I played Mississippi 483 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: State wide. I played a lot of Titans before that, Duco, etc. 484 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: So the transition over to tighten wasn't as severe as 485 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: maybe you thought it was going to be. But he 486 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: is a potential candidate to break out if you will 487 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: have more than four touchdowns to be a guy that 488 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: catches forty passes. To me, the pass reception distribution is 489 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: going to be really interesting in twenty nineteen. You know, 490 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: Hop's gonna get his if Fuller stays healthy, then he's 491 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: gonna get his two. But Will has never been a 492 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: huge target targeted wide receiver from a number standpoint. Now. 493 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: The Tennessee game Week two last year he did, and 494 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: the Miami game he was as well. But Hops always 495 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: been that targeted guy. Now, maybe Will, if he stays healthy, 496 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: ends up seeing more and more targets, which I would 497 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to at all. Keiki is a 498 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: high volume target guy, so the Texas is gonna want 499 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: to run the ball two. So you know that Deante 500 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: Foreman and Lamar Miller are gonna get a bunch of carries. 501 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: So how many more receptions are there to go around 502 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 1: for the tight ends? That, if anything, is the one 503 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: where I go. So I don't see Jordan catching sixty 504 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: passes this year. I don't see him even gett into 505 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: CJ's number. CJ f door it's number back in twenty sixteen. 506 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: But I do think that Jordan Thomas could put together 507 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: thirty five to forty five six touchdowns. I think Jorde 508 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: Nakins is gonna be able to see a number of 509 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: targets this year if he gets targeted. Look if he 510 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: gets targeted three to four times a game, Jordan Thomas, 511 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: Jordan Nakens three or four times a game, like, I 512 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: could see that in certain situations. I can see times 513 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: where it's five to seven. But if you have combined 514 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: amongst those two, the two Jordans, as we say, if 515 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: you're looking at a could you get to eighty catches total? 516 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: Seventy to eighty catches total amongst your tight ends? Five 517 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: six touch downs total that's gotta be a good year 518 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: for the tight Ends. No, I think it could be. 519 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: But I think Jordan Thomas people are gonna say he's 520 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: a breakout player and there's no reason for him not 521 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: to be that guy in twenty nineteen and totally and 522 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: completely looking forward to what he can do in this 523 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: particular season. So he's always good on the mic. So 524 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: it's good to catch up with JT, Big Baby Jordan Thomas. 525 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: All Right, Drew Doherty and I will go into the 526 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: lab next, and it's time for one of my favorite 527 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: in the lab topics. What if one of my favorites 528 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: we'll do an extra here in Texas All Access. We'll 529 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: final a segment of this Wednesday edition of Texans All 530 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: Access from the Honday Texans Radio studio. I'm your host, 531 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: John Harris, Football YOS, A silent reporter. Glad to be 532 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: back from the Left Coast, to be able to get 533 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: back on radio. It's been two straight Fridays of crazy 534 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: news breaking, this one being in California. He was sort 535 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: of weird. I don't know whether I want news to 536 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: break on Friday or no, but it just seems like 537 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: that's the day when everything's happening. I don't know, but 538 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: if we gotta, If it happens, it happens, and we'll 539 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: handle it. There's no doubt about that now. Drew, Dorry 540 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: and I each and every week we have not even 541 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: though I was out, we did not. We were off 542 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: a day. We did In the Lab podcast today and 543 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: that has been that's been up there. So check out 544 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: your in the Lab podcast Deep City. You also put 545 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: up the Deep Slant podcast. You talked to our equipment 546 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: guru Mike Parson, who is one of the best. Mike 547 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: is just I mean, he's the best equipment got in 548 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: the league. Well he's just one of the best dudes. 549 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: I know he is, So he's awesome. So go check 550 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: that out on Deep Slant podcast. Really really cool stuff. 551 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: But Drew and I this week kind of racking our 552 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's so much pink going on, Like, you know, 553 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: let's just kind of step outside the box a little 554 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: bit and well let's sound some fun. One of the 555 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: things that I used to do with my Nashal Overnight 556 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: radio show was I did all through the eleven and 557 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 1: for people to listen, I know, I would put out 558 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: a topic. I would say, Okay, here's your topic, and 559 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: then people would just send it to me and then 560 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: I would rank the eleven mess that I got. And 561 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: so that's what kind of evolved into. And so one 562 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: night I was trying to figure it out. I was like, 563 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, I get this question a lot. What if 564 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: what if Michael Jordan didn't make the shot against the Jazz. 565 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: What if Michael Jordan didn't go play baseball for two years? 566 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: What if the Rockets played Michael Jordan and the Bulls. 567 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: What if Dickie Thon hadn't taken a fastball to the 568 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: eye unfortunately, what if Jeff Bagwell hadn't been traded to 569 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: the asker? Like all those different things. And so because 570 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: it was a national show, I ended up getting I 571 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: got suggestions and all these from all over the place, 572 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: and it was fun and I would do that pretty often. 573 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: I loved it because I just like to see what 574 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: people came up with. What if OJ Okay, I'm not 575 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: good at that. It was weird to be out there 576 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: for twenty fifth anniversary. Though I tried to drive the 577 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: same path that he went back. It's like, no, that's 578 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: that's too much. And then I was gonna go try 579 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: and find his house but apparently it was torn down. 580 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: It was torn out a while ago. So I was like, Nah, 581 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I was gonna hang out 582 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: with my daughter Ralph a good time either way. I 583 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: decided to come up with some what ifs for the 584 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: Houston Texans for a good friend ju Doherty, And the 585 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: first one involves the sheriff. What if the Texans had 586 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: actually signed Peyton Manning in twenty twelve he went a 587 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, not necessarily that year, but probably the next 588 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: year of the year after you went a Super Bowl. 589 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting to think about that year, the year after, 590 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: because the year after in twenty thirteen, two and fourteen, Yeah, 591 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: because Matt had had a precipitous drop off. But and 592 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: he and he really hit a stride. In comparison Paton 593 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: Banning right exactly where you thought Peyton was going to 594 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: fall off all of a sudden, he goes to a 595 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: different level. So you say that Texas would have won 596 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, and I think, in union with the 597 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: defense and what it was, Yeah, I do what do 598 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: you think? I thought that for years I thought they 599 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: could have won. One of those who was not twenty twelve, 600 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: twenty twelve is probably the better shot. But you bring 601 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: up a great point in twenty thirteen. I think twenty 602 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: thirteen was a matter of circumstance, and the circumstance being 603 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: that Matt just fell off the face of the earth. 604 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: So from that particular moment, it was like and that 605 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: defense was kind of starting to click. Cushing was kind 606 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: of looking okay, And I mean, if you're if you're 607 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: playing the way you think you could play with Peyton Manning, 608 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: you're probably not in that sort of situation. He probably 609 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: didn't get his kne wrecked. It's all if sputs candy nuts, 610 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, but he doesn't get his knee wrecked against 611 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: can't you're probably what four and one, four and two 612 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: at that point, So it's just a different situation. But yeah, 613 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: I think I think he went a Super Bowl with Pete. Okay, 614 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: what if now before I asked this one there but 615 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: blah blah, wait backtrack, Okay. Jane Moore actually made this 616 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: point on Radio Row and it was a good point 617 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: at the time. He said, like before Peyton Manning even 618 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: signed with the Broncos, he said, the guy's not allowed 619 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: to ride a roller coaster because of his neck. Right, 620 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: why would you sign him to a deal? And I 621 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: thought was kind of of the same mind I was. 622 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: I was kind of the same mine too. I thought 623 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: he was I thought he was done. Yeah, I thought 624 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: he was done. Okay, Heading into the twenty eleven draft, 625 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: I should say this, there was an article a couple 626 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: of years ago that was a oral history of the 627 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: twenty eleven draft. Twenty eleven draft was an unbelievable draft. 628 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: Stars fell and former g M. Rick Smith was interviewed 629 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: for that and he said that his plan and thought 630 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: going into the NFL draft was that he would have 631 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: traded up and had a trade in the works for 632 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson. Yes, So what if in the twenty eleven draft, 633 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: instead of drafting JJ Watt, the Texans traded for Patrick Peterson. 634 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Your secondary is better? But I don't because if you 635 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: draft Patrick Peterson, do you signed Jonathan Joseph and Danielle Manning? Right? 636 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: Good point? And if you draft Patrick Peterson, or does 637 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: that mean you're pairing him with Kareem Jackson at corner? 638 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: Or are Kareem Jackson and Glover Quinn at corner? Because 639 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: remember Glover Quinn was a corner, didn't get moved to 640 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: safety until you signed J Joe Man. Yeah, so you're 641 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: your secondary is better, but I don't know how much 642 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: better your defense is without the game record that is 643 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: JJ Watt. I just I don't know now. Going into 644 00:31:53,320 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: that draft February late January twenty eleven, von Miller that 645 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: was the guy they was, but he played Senior Bowl 646 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: and all the Miserables and stuff. He went into a 647 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: different stratosphere and want to be in pick second overall. 648 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: Aldon Smith was the guy they were really after, but 649 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: he went with fifth to the Niners. Yeah, I think 650 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: was six maybe, yeah, I think Peterson was sixth, and 651 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: then Smith went seventh, And it was like, I remember 652 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: that happening, and I remember hearing at the time that 653 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: those are two guys that they were, And when Aldon 654 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: Smith were off the board at seven, I was like, man, 655 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: were they gonna do? But they knew it was a 656 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: good draft and they were happy when they got wat 657 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: but he was not surprisingly he was not that number 658 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: one top of their board. But I do remember in 659 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: the in the press conference when he came to town day, 660 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips was up at the podium with him, because 661 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: back then the Texans draft pick would speak to the media, 662 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: and the coordinator on whatever side of the ball would 663 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: would be up there with him, and Wade lifted up 664 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: JJ's hand. It's like, look at this guy's hand. Thank 665 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: his hand in the draft. And then he also talked 666 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: about JJ and the I think the three cone drill 667 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: or the shuttle some shuttle drill that he just destroyed 668 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: and was amazing at. So yeah, you know, you know 669 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: how I'm at pressors. I don't I don't ask questions. 670 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, I listened to take it all in 671 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: a lot of times because we get those guys in studio, 672 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: so I don't want to use up any questions and 673 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: I I just you don't ask any questions. I don't 674 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: ask any questions. I have questions, I just I don't know. 675 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: But I save them because, like like you get, you 676 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 1: get a lot of the high profile figures around here 677 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: in TV interviews, So I save those questions because we're 678 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: gonna get coach O Brian, We're gonna get players in here. 679 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: So I saved the questions, but back then I didn't 680 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget when he put his hand up 681 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: and he started talking about three cone time, I was like, Okay, 682 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: that's all well and good. Now keep in mind, my 683 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: dad was the biggest JJ Watt fan in the world 684 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: because he's from Wisconsin. Loved Watt. Oh, his buddy's back 685 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin were telling him about JJ. What even before 686 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: JJ had got into Wisconsin had told him about JJ, 687 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: that they had heard of him and all that. Even 688 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: gone to Central Mission. Tore like, hey, keeping on his 689 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: Wat kid. You know, so my dad, my dad was 690 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: a huge fan and so kind of through him. I 691 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: was a JJ fan before he even yo got here. 692 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: So I was really excited when we drafted him. I 693 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: was I'll never forget. I went on radio and uh 694 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: and they asked me, I remember Lance was doing at 695 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: the time, and said, what about what? I said, Look, 696 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: I think this. I think Wat's a heck of a player. 697 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: I just don't know how they're gonna use him. I 698 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: don't know how they're gonna play them in this defense 699 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: that they already have Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. I said, 700 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: but I love him as a player. I just don't 701 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: know how they're gonna put all this together. But I 702 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: asked the question when he put his hands up, and 703 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: you know that, I asked the question I said, I said, 704 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: but wait, how are you going to use him like that? 705 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: To me is the most important thing, Like, yeah, I 706 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: understand he's got big hands and all that, and I'll 707 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: just never I'll never forget JJ kind of staring at 708 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: me like he's new to town. I just remember him 709 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: kind of staring at me, and I was like, bro, 710 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm in your corner, man, Like more than you know, 711 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: I want him to tell everybody, like what kind of 712 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: player you are? Not that you got big hands and 713 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: you do the l cone, you three cone great. I 714 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: want to tell us like, how are they going to 715 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: use you? Like what's the best fit for you? Because 716 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 1: that's what That's what at the time was was really 717 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: the question. So um yeah, because they moved, they slid 718 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: Mario out to outside linebacker. No, that Patrick Peterson's won 719 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: a heck of a player. Also with JJ, I think 720 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: there's an idea out there because of he's such a 721 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: good guy and all that stuff, that there's this idea 722 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: by some, not everyone, but by some that he's one 723 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: of those work hard, lunch, pale guys, high energy, and 724 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: he does he is. Yeah, he has that high motor 725 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,479 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But bringing up that three cone bringing 726 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: up the hand size. He is an amazing athlete as well. 727 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: He's a jungle cat. I mean, just a great, great athlete. 728 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's a combination of being that great athlete, 729 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: being having the high motor, you know, doing the study 730 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. He's he's the perfect embodiment. Now 731 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: you're You're right. I think that's the one thing that 732 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: gets lost. He's an amazing act There's no question. And 733 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: I know a lot of that went back to like 734 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen was doing the box jumps and sixty 735 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: one his box jumps or whatever it was, and people 736 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: are like, oh, look what's he doing. He is even 737 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: to this day he is after the two years that 738 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: he had to deal with significant injuries, he is an 739 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: unbelievable athlete. Yeah. At his size, I mean you've said 740 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: the other day at the press conference he was two 741 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety pounds. I'm like, what he can do 742 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: a two hundred ninety pounds? It's just it's amazing. Okay, 743 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: It's like a tiger. What if in the twenty seventeen draft, 744 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is not traded for at number ten, Both 745 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Watson are on the board at number twelve, 746 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: and the Texans decided to draft Patrick Mahomes over Deshaun Watson. 747 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: What if Mahomes is your quarterback over Watson. I think 748 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: I think he'd see a lot of the same type 749 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: of results. I think I think he'd be in really 750 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: good hands as well. You know, I think the Texans 751 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: liked him a lot, but uh, yeah, I think it'd 752 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: be I think I can't wait to see what the 753 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: next decade holds with these two. I think you're gonna 754 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: see a lot of shootouts between these two teams. I 755 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: think that could be part of its fun, part of 756 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: its nerve wracking. Yeah. I mean three of the most 757 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: incredible days I've spent on a sideline for games. I've 758 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: been in New England, Seattle, and Philadelphia. I just want 759 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: to win one of those. I want to win one 760 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: of those shootouts. But watching watching him pull every arrow 761 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: out of his bag like Catnis from uh whatever that 762 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: movie was called. Uh no, what was that movie called? 763 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: Morning Jay? I don't know, Hunger Games, that's it. We 764 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: saw Catniss wax figure at the Wax Museum and so 765 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't think of it. But she's pulling out the Arrows. Oh, 766 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence, Yeah, that's number four. But but I think 767 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: you're right. I don't. I don't know that much would 768 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: be different, to be honest, I think I think much 769 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: would be the same. I had these two rated very 770 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: close to the other. The tough part would be what 771 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: if the Texans had drafted Mitchell Trubisky over watching I 772 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: don't think we've been Yeah, I wouldn't know. I don't 773 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: think we've been. Yeah, that would be one I would 774 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: that would like I'm so bullish on on Watson Man. 775 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: I like Brian Gaine was not going to play quarterback 776 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: this year, Nick Cassario was not going to play quarterback 777 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: this year. Bill O'Brien not going to play quarterback this year. 778 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: That's why I'm so optimistic about what's going on here, 779 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: despite all the stuff going going on extraneously, that's gonna 780 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: get figured out on the field. Got the pieces in place, 781 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I agree this the ninety man rosters set. 782 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: There'll be a tweak here there because there will be 783 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: injuries and all that kind of stuff. And I haven't 784 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: spoken on this because I have been out of town. 785 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: But it's not as if things are going to crumble. No, listen, 786 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: has and have people out there ever known what the 787 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: actual power, complete power structure was with the Texans. No, 788 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: And it's by design. It's an organ the organizational decisions 789 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: to be made. But we need to don't know. You 790 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: don't there, didn't know before, so you don't need to know. Now. 791 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of smart, capable folks that are underneath 792 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: the level of GI that are that are still here, 793 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: still doing what they normally do. And yeah, Texans are. 794 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm losing probably zero point zero percent sleep over this, 795 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: to be honest. I know, listen, I'm well aware of 796 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: the talking point that it has become and that it 797 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: has understanding. You're talking about a GM job. It's a 798 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: big deal from that perspective, it's a GM job. Yeah, 799 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: but we're not. We're not two weeks away from the draft, 800 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: So I'm not. I'm not. I'm not completely you know, 801 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: losing sleep too much on that. Uh, Okay, what if 802 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: the Texans had the number two pick in the two 803 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: thousand and three NFL draft in parentheses, do you think 804 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: they would have taken Charlie Rodgers over Andre Johnson? So 805 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: what do you think? People? I know what people are 806 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: gonna say no, then we're gonna take Andre Johnson regardless. 807 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: But I remind you Charlie Rodgers put up some pretty 808 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: sick numbers. In two thousand and two. He was the 809 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: talk of the college football world. I mean, he made 810 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: a catch against Notre Dame in the Michigan State Notre 811 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: Dame game. That was just ridiculous. Now, Honrey did not 812 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: put up tremendous numbers. Numbers. Now this was really before 813 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: the passing game evolved in college football. Charlie Rodgers put 814 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: up in two thousand and two sixty eight catches, one thousand, 815 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: three and fifty one yards and thirteen touchdowns. And in 816 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and one he had sixty seven receptions one thousand, 817 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy yards fourteen touchdowns. So that was 818 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: in college. He put together in twenty four games one 819 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five catches, two thousand or twenty one 820 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: yards and twenty seven touchdowns. He was absolutely legit. Sixty three, 821 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: two or two. Now, Andre didn't put up those kind 822 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: of numbers because in Miami they were they were sharing 823 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: a ball. They had two they had I mean, they 824 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: had studs. Contrast, Dre's two thousand and two year he 825 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: had fifty two catches, one thousand, ninety two yards and 826 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. So Dre didn't have quite the numbers that 827 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: Charlie Rodgers did the year before. You only had thirty 828 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 1: seven receptions, but ten of those were touchdowns. But people 829 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: knew full well about Andre Johnson. What would it have been? 830 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's a story there. Thank god we 831 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: didn't have to get into it because the Lions picked 832 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: Charlie Rodgers at two, Texans took Andre Johnson at three, 833 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: and the rest, as they say, is history. But I 834 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: love the one ifs on the end of the lap, 835 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: So appreciate Drew for stopping by to give some of that. 836 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: Also to his interview with Big Baby Jordan Thomas, and 837 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: of course big thanks to Mark for manning the fort 838 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: the last few days and for joining me in the 839 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: first segment to kind of recap those days and kind 840 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: of get everybody back up the speed if you were 841 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: out in La sort of like me. Appreciate you guys 842 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 1: so very much. Glad to be home. We'll see tomorrow 843 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: and as always, go Texans.