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Speaker 1: are you keeping your head above water? We're trying to.
Speaker 1: We're almost there. We're almost The light is at the
Speaker 1: end of the tunnel. You know, Division around this weekend
Speaker 1: and Championship weekend, and we got a Pro Bowl weekend
Speaker 1: in between with Singer Bowl and then you know the
Speaker 1: KUTA right Super Bowl at the end. Oh man, only
Speaker 1: a few weeks away. Okay, but let's off the top
Speaker 1: talk about what's going on right here with the Jets.
Speaker 1: What were your initial reactions when you had heard that
Speaker 1: the Jets had parted ways with offensive coordinator Michael Flour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you hear rumors, but just from everybody I
Speaker 1: talked to, you know, it was a bit surprising, but
Speaker 1: not surprising. E A. Um, when you understand that, you know,
Speaker 1: when teams heard that the Jets may move on without
Speaker 1: Michael Floor, they might mutually part ways. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of interest from other teams. I believe I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: I think he signed with the Rams already. UM, so
Speaker 1: you know he has a familiarity, UM with Sean McVeigh.
Speaker 1: You know his brother coach with him at Washington. UM.
Speaker 1: But I'm I don't get it. I would say only
Speaker 1: because it's hard as an offensive coordinator to play to
Speaker 1: make play calls, right. I don't think people understand that
Speaker 1: there's a true art to calling plays. And then when
Speaker 1: you feel like you're handicapped at times because there's an
Speaker 1: epic flow at the quarterback position, there's no continuity there.
Speaker 1: It's tough, like where does that puts you at as
Speaker 1: far as rhythm, because everything when you call plays A
Speaker 1: is a rhythm, right, and if you've played four quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in one year, there is no rhythm. Right. It's tough.
Speaker 1: You got offer the line injuries up front. Um, you
Speaker 1: know you lose Breese Hall a VT early in the year.
Speaker 1: It's tough. Yes, the NFL you have to adjust, but
Speaker 1: but some things are just tough to over overcome. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, losing Napper rest in peace to him,
Speaker 1: was a big blow to this staff, right, And I
Speaker 1: thought maybe that you know, Salo and you know, and
Speaker 1: staff would maybe bring somebody in that's a veteran, like
Speaker 1: a Kubiak or something like that, while keeping Mike Lafloor on.
Speaker 1: But it seems like the end of the day they
Speaker 1: mutually wanted to part ways and you know, best of
Speaker 1: luck to Mike. You know, I was with Mike in
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen with the San Franciscofore and not it's
Speaker 1: just like with Sala. Great dude, I love him and
Speaker 1: wish something but the best for him. Yeah, good dude,
Speaker 1: creative mind. He's a hard worker. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have success in the National Football League. We saw him
Speaker 1: have some success here. We talked about the quarterback instability. Man,
Speaker 1: nobody could have predicted that the Jets would have started
Speaker 1: Joe flack or to start the year. He gains the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Rave and Joe Flacco ended the year and the
Speaker 1: teams starting quarterback against the Miami Dolphins. When you think
Speaker 1: about the quarterback instability, what happened though to the team
Speaker 1: down the stretch. We're not I mean, we're gonna push
Speaker 1: this thing forward, but like you mentioned that, hey, the
Speaker 1: play caller couldn't get into a rhythm, and yes, the
Speaker 1: quarterback has so much to do with it. But what
Speaker 1: else was happening, in your eyes, is why the Jets
Speaker 1: faltered down the stretch completely dues because they didn't even
Speaker 1: score a touchdown in those final three games. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: lack of productivity from the quarterback position was definitely one
Speaker 1: we all know and not to be the dead horse,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know for a legal not to
Speaker 1: say that anymore. But you know, with Zack Wilson, I
Speaker 1: think it came to a point where it was a
Speaker 1: confidence thing. And then obviously his mechanics and everything, we're
Speaker 1: all over the place. Um, And that's something that you
Speaker 1: can't fix during the season, e ain't. That's something that
Speaker 1: you literally need a total ruby reboots in the off
Speaker 1: season to get your feet and and arms and eyes
Speaker 1: to match. Um. But you know, I think I think
Speaker 1: besides that, the one thing you gotta have in this league,
Speaker 1: he's confidence. And I think the confidence was wavering on
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson just because he had a lack of success
Speaker 1: after being benched and coming back. And yes, people will say,
Speaker 1: you know, in a Detroit game, I think it through
Speaker 1: for over three hundred yards, But how many of that
Speaker 1: was just you know, out of the pocket right off script,
Speaker 1: not living within the offense. And we know this, We've
Speaker 1: had this discussion many times. That's not viable offense. You
Speaker 1: can't do that on a week to week basis, right,
Speaker 1: And then I think everything came to head in the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville game. And I actually went back and watched that
Speaker 1: Jacksonville game as I was preparing UH to do the
Speaker 1: pre and post games for the wild card weekend. You know,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville played the Chargers, and like the Chargers, the Jets
Speaker 1: like to play a lot of man covers. Their corners
Speaker 1: are aggressive, they're getting your face. And whenever they did that,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence had issues. But you know that's talking about
Speaker 1: something else. Getting back to zack Um first quarter XTI
Speaker 1: didn't play that bad. Yeah, when I went back and
Speaker 1: watched it, it was the second quarter, and and then
Speaker 1: you just saw his confidence just like in wavering as
Speaker 1: incomplete passes happened. He had to throw balls away on
Speaker 1: third down because you know, the offensive line struggled a
Speaker 1: lot in that game. And we know on Thursday Night football,
Speaker 1: especially late in the season. I think that was like
Speaker 1: Week sixteen, your body's beat up. Right, So as far
Speaker 1: as like the injuries up front, getting that continuity down,
Speaker 1: because even talking about continuity with Michael Floor, the offensive
Speaker 1: line was in flux this year. Right, We've got Max
Speaker 1: Mitchell starting half the year. You got Cedric Gwenny started
Speaker 1: half the year. You got George Fatt starting half the
Speaker 1: year at one position, right tackle. Right, we even at
Speaker 1: a v T in the beginning year starting had left tackle.
Speaker 1: Nobody saw that coming. So it's it's it's just hard
Speaker 1: for a young quarterback, right when you feel like you're
Speaker 1: under pressure and they're like everybody's telling you you have
Speaker 1: to throw the ball at the bounce, you cannot put
Speaker 1: it in harm's way. I think he felt like he
Speaker 1: was handicapped. I don't know where his confident level was
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, and then he almost
Speaker 1: had to play in week te there Joe Flaccer right
Speaker 1: went down because Mike, you know, Mike um White was hurt.
Speaker 1: You would have to go right back in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's like it's just a constant, epic flow and
Speaker 1: there was no continuity. It was tough. It's it's it's hard,
Speaker 1: like you said in the last three weeks. It seas
Speaker 1: you don't score a touchdown, right, that's somebody's gonna get
Speaker 1: the blame for that, whether it's the quarterback, the offensive coordinated,
Speaker 1: the old line, and I just think that the Jets
Speaker 1: really struggled down the back half when you want to
Speaker 1: be playing your best football. It was a total opposite
Speaker 1: on the offensive side. So let's bridge this thing forward. Dude,
Speaker 1: what should Robert Sale, Joe Douglas, Woody Johnson and company
Speaker 1: be looking for in terms of a new Jets offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: because again, this is a very specific system the Jets
Speaker 1: ran the last two years and you know it. The
Speaker 1: thing is, I think people sometimes on the outside are
Speaker 1: eager for an overhaul. But every time you change assist um,
Speaker 1: that means a new guy comes in because he might
Speaker 1: be looking for certain types of personnelity you don't have
Speaker 1: right now to that roster. So if you're these guys,
Speaker 1: and Woody Johnson made it clear the other day, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is Robert Salis call Joe Douglas said the same thing.
Speaker 1: But Joel, obviously he's gonna give solid support. What should
Speaker 1: he be looking for in terms of an offensive coordinator? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Before I get into that, That's exactly why I didn't
Speaker 1: think Michaelafore should have been relieved, and essentially he didn't
Speaker 1: get relieved. It was a mutual splitting, right, But that's
Speaker 1: why I thought, you know, a lot of fans were
Speaker 1: on the upwar like we should get around. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't think you guys understand that. Like, if there's
Speaker 1: any chance of Zach Wilson bounced back, or even the
Speaker 1: new quarterback that's coming in, right, you've got all the
Speaker 1: pieces in the system right now to fit that Lafloor
Speaker 1: Santa hand offense. Right, So like if you bring somebody
Speaker 1: in that doesn't run that offense, and we know how
Speaker 1: this league is, a lot of guys come in, Well,
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't fit my system, or this guy you're
Speaker 1: starting all over again, you're gonna have the same issues
Speaker 1: you had last year. And also it takes the quarterback
Speaker 1: literally like two years to really grasp the system. Let's
Speaker 1: not forget Aaron Rodgers one of the greatest of all time,
Speaker 1: right as far as just pure talent, Right, some people
Speaker 1: will say probably the best we've ever seen. Now, my
Speaker 1: homes might have something to say about that. Towards the
Speaker 1: end of his career, but as far as right now,
Speaker 1: with with with the two eyes that we have in
Speaker 1: our skulls that we've seen, nobody has been better as
Speaker 1: far as pure talent from Aaron Rodgers standpoint right. People
Speaker 1: thought he was done his first year within the floor system.
Speaker 1: Like I think people tend to forget. People were talking
Speaker 1: about maybe they should move on to Jordan's love because
Speaker 1: he didn't look good. It takes two years to get
Speaker 1: into this system, you know, you know thoroughly and really
Speaker 1: grasp it what happened the next two years back to
Speaker 1: back gam v PCAs right. So it's like but with
Speaker 1: Michael for Leavin, if you essentially don't bring somebody in
Speaker 1: with a similar system, which is why I like Gary Kobayak,
Speaker 1: because it is under that tree, you're starting to clock
Speaker 1: over again and we could have these same problems on
Speaker 1: offense next year no matter who the quarterback is, whether
Speaker 1: it's Zack Wilson, Mike White, Derek Carlo, Mark Jackson, just
Speaker 1: throwing out a few names, you're starting that cock over again.
Speaker 1: So it's it's tough, right, because that's that's what the
Speaker 1: league is. It's like it's a production based business. But
Speaker 1: in that time, like your your actually do some unspeakable
Speaker 1: things as far as changing personnel, changing systems while still
Speaker 1: competing and making runs in the playoffs. Well, there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of names reported out there, dudes, and I'll
Speaker 1: just throw a few at you. Um, you know, it's
Speaker 1: top top of mind, whatever comes to mind as far
Speaker 1: as any of these guys. Bill's quarterbacks coach, Joe Brady
Speaker 1: Marcus Brady, who was the former Colts offensive coordinator. UM.
Speaker 1: Kevin Petullo, the Eagles passing game coordinator, actually worked here
Speaker 1: under Chan Gaily a few years back. Brian Johnson, the
Speaker 1: Eagles quarterbacks coach. Pep Hamilton's who was Lovey Smith's offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator with the Houston Texans. Daryl Bevil's name has been
Speaker 1: mentioned a ton. He's Miami's quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator.
Speaker 1: He's been an offensive coordinator for four different teams. He
Speaker 1: also worked with Solo way back in the day in Seattle.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're hearing a lot of names, a lot
Speaker 1: of different reports. Obviously the Jets aren't confirming anything. Uh,
Speaker 1: from what you've heard so far, top of mind, what
Speaker 1: what have you thought? Yeah, Darren Bevil is the one
Speaker 1: I think that's the last name you said that I
Speaker 1: think has been most linked to the Jets just because
Speaker 1: of the relationship Robert Salo had with him going back
Speaker 1: to their Seattle days. I think he's a guy that's
Speaker 1: a veteran coming presence that could be really good. And
Speaker 1: this system um system is not too far off from
Speaker 1: what Michael Floor did, so I think that would be
Speaker 1: a good name and name I talked about earlier, Gary Kubiak,
Speaker 1: I think they should call him to see if you
Speaker 1: come out of retirement. I mean, it's the guy that
Speaker 1: has played a long time in this system, right, was
Speaker 1: key in that you know zone stretched scheme and then
Speaker 1: play action off of that and being decisive getting the
Speaker 1: ball out of your hands. System. It's quarterback friendly, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's another calming presence that could be great
Speaker 1: for the Jets quarterback room, whether it's Zack Wilson or
Speaker 1: a veteran they bring in. So, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: a lot to think about. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people were enamored with the Bevil name, but you also
Speaker 1: gotta think e A and whatdy. Johnson hasn't come out
Speaker 1: and said it's a playoff mandate, but we essentially know
Speaker 1: it's get to the playoffs or something might happen in
Speaker 1: the off season. Right, so you gotta take into key,
Speaker 1: you gotta take in take that into account when you're
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator potentially coming to the Jets, Right, I
Speaker 1: literally got one year to get this done. So like
Speaker 1: having a young guy probably isn't the best thing first
Speaker 1: you want all we gotta think, right because you gotta
Speaker 1: convince that guy to leave his job come here, and
Speaker 1: it's literally one and done if most likely one and
Speaker 1: done if you don't get it done right. So, if
Speaker 1: you've got a guy like Kubiak or you know, um
Speaker 1: Bevil who have been in the system before and if
Speaker 1: you know, been coaches for a long time in this league,
Speaker 1: they understand, you know, the timetable. They understand that you
Speaker 1: got the top five defense. They understand you've got probably
Speaker 1: offensive rookie of the year and Garrett Willson, Breese Hall
Speaker 1: Breese Hall coming back a b T. So maybe they're not,
Speaker 1: as you know, nervous about taking a job like that
Speaker 1: as where a young guy who might be willing to
Speaker 1: come on just because it's his first opportunity as officers
Speaker 1: a coordinator. But then again, how would the offense flow
Speaker 1: if it's a totally different system, you know, And I've
Speaker 1: heard some names floated out there that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know after that realistic, like a Frank Reich,
Speaker 1: because Reich is interviewing for head coaching jobs and people
Speaker 1: are talking about Cliff Kingsbury and people are reporting that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen the photos from Island, right, So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how realistic that some of
Speaker 1: those guys are home run. Who Frank Wright would be
Speaker 1: at home run? But like you said, he I just
Speaker 1: think what his history and what he did with the Coats.
Speaker 1: I think he's legitimately gonna get some head coaching opportunities.
Speaker 1: And then it comes down to again, this is a
Speaker 1: veteran guy, played in the league, coach for a long time.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a bevy of places to go to.
Speaker 1: He's got that way. The way is option as far
Speaker 1: as if I come to the Jets right, we essentially
Speaker 1: probably most likely got to get it done this year.
Speaker 1: Where if I wait and go to another team, maybe
Speaker 1: the Chargers or somewhere else that needs offers a coordinator,
Speaker 1: do I have two years minimum at least to kind
Speaker 1: of put my system and get guys going, get guys
Speaker 1: comfortable in the system. But charges are essentially, I think
Speaker 1: in the same position as a jet. So if you
Speaker 1: go there, I think it's literally they got They have
Speaker 1: probably a playoff mandated more than the playoff minute. They
Speaker 1: probably gotta go past the first round after what happened
Speaker 1: with them in Jacksonville being up seven nothing. So I
Speaker 1: mean it's this is what the all season is about,
Speaker 1: right ea. You know, speculations where guys are gonna go
Speaker 1: um and filling out the staff and filling it out
Speaker 1: right right, You've gotta have the right guys in your building.
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Speaker 1: So in a perfect world, you would want an experience
Speaker 1: play caller who's called the shots in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: but also has familiarity, at least has some familiarity, has
Speaker 1: worked in a system that the Jets operated in the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. With that being said, no matter
Speaker 1: who they bring in here, what is Sala looking for
Speaker 1: do you think, Because you know the man very well,
Speaker 1: obviously he wants an offensive scores points, you can run
Speaker 1: the football, who can operate late in the season where
Speaker 1: the Jets faltered down the stretch where they're able to
Speaker 1: flourish in December. But what do you think he would
Speaker 1: want as far as philosophical mind to match what he
Speaker 1: does defensively? Because something that you and Bart have told
Speaker 1: me repeatedly about this defense, and it seems so ailmentary,
Speaker 1: But you got to operate with the lead. This is
Speaker 1: all about getting ton pass rushers on the field and
Speaker 1: dominating in the fourth quarter and pinning your ears back
Speaker 1: and getting to the quarterback. You saw you started seeing
Speaker 1: those rush numbers go up elevate late in the season
Speaker 1: because the Jets were never in the league. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and that's the thing, right, I think you just want
Speaker 1: somebody that's comparable, right, you just want comparable football. Honestly, yes,
Speaker 1: you would love to play with the league. But like
Speaker 1: you stated earlier in this podcast, yea no touchdown was
Speaker 1: the last three weeks. Like again, and people I've seen
Speaker 1: fans on Twitter going after the defense. It's like, I
Speaker 1: think we get spoiled that time, right when you used
Speaker 1: to the defense dominating weekend and week out. But the
Speaker 1: thing you have to understand in this league, he is
Speaker 1: that this is gonna be a week or two where
Speaker 1: you may not play to the standard. Can that other
Speaker 1: position or other side of the football elevate the team
Speaker 1: to win in no scenarios? Perfect example, let's look at
Speaker 1: the four n versus the Raiders, which sent him had
Speaker 1: his first start. That defense didn't play to the standard.
Speaker 1: They gave up thirty one points to Jared Stidham, right,
Speaker 1: he's there for three sixty five bore. Having on the
Speaker 1: offensive side, a A picked their defense up. They scored
Speaker 1: thirty four to win in overtime and beat the Raiders.
Speaker 1: That's what you gotta have, Like comparable football. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna always play your best, right even towards the end
Speaker 1: of the year. You want to be playing your best.
Speaker 1: There's times where you may instead of giving up only
Speaker 1: three points, you may give up thirteam, which in in
Speaker 1: the NFL, you still should win games if you give
Speaker 1: up thirteen points. Yeah, social media, I know you've been
Speaker 1: pretty vocal about that with fans. The back and forth
Speaker 1: to get the lack of complimentary football is just killing
Speaker 1: the Jets down the stretch and the defense to be
Speaker 1: superman play in and play out, like that's not realistic
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So, like that's the thing that that
Speaker 1: you gotta have on offense. You gotta have somebody that
Speaker 1: comes in at it one and stokes and invokes confidence.
Speaker 1: Right right now, you know how much confidence is on
Speaker 1: that side of the football, because you talked about the
Speaker 1: last three weeks no touchdowns, Like we know Gary Wilson
Speaker 1: has a lot of conference with no breeze Hall A
Speaker 1: v T. These are some of our younger players. But
Speaker 1: we gotta get everybody on that side of the ball
Speaker 1: having confidence that we can go out there and score
Speaker 1: on anybody. We don't care who the defense is. Right
Speaker 1: then again, my thing, I think Solid wants somebody that's
Speaker 1: comfortable to this offense because because the pieces there. Now again,
Speaker 1: I'm a big proponent, and I never liked when when
Speaker 1: coordinators go somewhere like this guy doesn't fit my system.
Speaker 1: That's tag wash to me. Your job as a coach
Speaker 1: is to coach what can a player do well? Don't
Speaker 1: tell me what he can't do, tell me what he
Speaker 1: can do well. Put him in that position where he
Speaker 1: can succeed doing things well. And that's what I really
Speaker 1: loved about Rex Ryan. He rarely put dudes in positions
Speaker 1: where he knew they weren't gonna be successful, and he
Speaker 1: had everybody had a key part to his defense. They
Speaker 1: had something specific that they did well, and he let
Speaker 1: them do that. Right. So, as a coordinator, really it's
Speaker 1: offense or defense, that's your job to figure out what
Speaker 1: players do well and put them in position to make plays.
Speaker 1: I mean, we go back to Denzel Mims a lot
Speaker 1: of people were kind of mad at Lafour for for
Speaker 1: not putting this guy out there was six ft two pounds,
Speaker 1: runs like a gazelle, And I was glad that he
Speaker 1: was able to get an opportunity late in the season
Speaker 1: and started playing well and he started making play So again, yes,
Speaker 1: you might have a system in your head, a specific system,
Speaker 1: but find out what players do well put them in
Speaker 1: in positions to succeed. I think that's something else that
Speaker 1: you know, Robert Salo would look for, right, how do
Speaker 1: we get our playmakers making plays, whether they fit the
Speaker 1: system or not. What do they do well, and how
Speaker 1: do we get them in positions where they can succeed
Speaker 1: doing what they do well. That was a super point
Speaker 1: about Rex Ryan, because I've always made the argument that
Speaker 1: I'd walk downstairs in his office he started with he
Speaker 1: would break out the playbook, he'd show you a number
Speaker 1: of plays, and he'd always have something for everybody. Again,
Speaker 1: I tell people that if he had me on the
Speaker 1: field and safety, he creates just a special blitz for
Speaker 1: me that yes, he was not gonna use throughout the game.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna get fifteen rops, but I was gonna
Speaker 1: get two rops in here. He was gonna point me
Speaker 1: in position to make a play, even me, no matter
Speaker 1: who you were. Whenever you did well, Rex would find it.
Speaker 1: Like you said, he if it was one or two
Speaker 1: plays a game, it would be timely too when he
Speaker 1: put you out there, because it would be the last
Speaker 1: thing the offense would expect. What are the pros to
Speaker 1: this job if you are a candidate? What makes this
Speaker 1: an attractive job? The Jets offensive coordinator position. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think that's what we kind of talked about earlier,
Speaker 1: right than again, you worry about the timeline because it
Speaker 1: could be essentially get to the playoffs or staff changes,
Speaker 1: and that's just the reality of football. I know that's
Speaker 1: kind of tough for ere to even talk about. But
Speaker 1: if you look at it right, the positivities you kind
Speaker 1: of top five defense, he a you can lean on
Speaker 1: your defense, So you know that coming into this, all right,
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta go out here and put up thirty
Speaker 1: a game, right, I got a defense out of holding
Speaker 1: guys thirteen fourteen points a game. We just get seventeen
Speaker 1: twenty one. We got a chance to win. Right. That's
Speaker 1: tough for a lot of coordinators, a lot of coordinators
Speaker 1: in this league can't say that, e A. But if
Speaker 1: you go to the Jets, you can say that because
Speaker 1: it's on tape. We've seen that. So that's number one.
Speaker 1: You got a top five defense, right, You have probably
Speaker 1: two of the best young offensive talents at the skilled
Speaker 1: position on your team. When you talked about Gary Wilson
Speaker 1: going over eleven hundred yards with four different quarterbacks, brees
Speaker 1: saw who most likely would have been offensive Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year, and Gary Rulson even kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: chuckled and laughed about that. When I acts at the
Speaker 1: end of the season, if Breese Haw stays healthy, does
Speaker 1: he win offenser Rookie of the Year, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt. That boy's cold. He's cold, Like I forgot
Speaker 1: what the number one is. It was astounding looked at
Speaker 1: it when Breese Hall and A v T went out,
Speaker 1: the dropping production from the run game was out staying.
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous. I think it was like from five
Speaker 1: point five to like three point five without him in
Speaker 1: the game. I think the points were game drastically dropped
Speaker 1: as well. So you got a button start out. You
Speaker 1: worry about him coming back from that injury because it
Speaker 1: was pretty it was a pretty ugly injury, right, Um,
Speaker 1: but from all intends of purposes and everything I heard,
Speaker 1: he's well, had a schedule on treatment. He's looking forward
Speaker 1: to maybe coming back at the beginning of training camp.
Speaker 1: A b T has come out and said he will
Speaker 1: be ready by by training camp. Again, let the medical
Speaker 1: staff do what they do. Take your time, right, it's
Speaker 1: the offseason. You don't gotta be superheroes. We need you
Speaker 1: for a seventeen game stretch in the season. But you
Speaker 1: got those two guys on the skillutation. The av T
Speaker 1: one of the best young offensive lineman and most versatile
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the league. Yeah, there's not many times
Speaker 1: where a guy can go up and down the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. He started games left tackle, right tackle, and
Speaker 1: right guard. That is absurd for a player in his
Speaker 1: second year and playing at a high level at each
Speaker 1: one of those. So if your officers the corner top
Speaker 1: five defense two off, so woki of your candidates. One
Speaker 1: of the best young offensive a lineman the Jets have
Speaker 1: seen in a long time. It's coming back from injury.
Speaker 1: Then you've got a compliment of tight ends and I
Speaker 1: we'll see again. With contracts and how they're all, you know,
Speaker 1: set up. We'll see if there will be some changes
Speaker 1: at the tighten position. But we saw record played really
Speaker 1: well in that Miami game and bring a physical presence
Speaker 1: to the run game. I think that's something we could do.
Speaker 1: And he had a really good you know, I won't
Speaker 1: say circus catch, but it was his body was going
Speaker 1: in one direction, the ball was going another. He made
Speaker 1: a really good catch from Joe Flacco on a bootleg.
Speaker 1: So I think they'll get him more involved. Honestly, was
Speaker 1: surprised he didn't playing a little bit more this year.
Speaker 1: But you know, Tyler Conklin, I don't I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if he got to the sixty catches e A, but
Speaker 1: you gotta tie. And I got close to sixty catches
Speaker 1: quiet like we talked about a quiet sixty, but he
Speaker 1: got almost got the sixty kids. Just so you look
Speaker 1: at those pieces and you're like, I got a lot
Speaker 1: to work with right now. We do gotta shri up
Speaker 1: and solidified officer line. We got a lot of dudes
Speaker 1: coming off injury injuries, which gives you some pause and
Speaker 1: it makes you a little nervous. But you know, the
Speaker 1: number one thing is we got to find a quarterback here.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what the offening recording is thinking about,
Speaker 1: Like can we fix Zach Wilson? Right? Is it just
Speaker 1: a mechanical thing? And also if we bring a veteran
Speaker 1: in here, is this system going to be friendly for
Speaker 1: him to have success quickly? Because again, there is a
Speaker 1: timetable to this, and it's tough to talk about in
Speaker 1: the NFL, but there is a true timetable to this.
Speaker 1: We may have to get this done in one year,
Speaker 1: but I love what we got on offense. As far
Speaker 1: as our skill position players, we have a a star
Speaker 1: warth and a v T up front on old line,
Speaker 1: and we have a top five defense, so we have
Speaker 1: a lot to work with. Woody Johnson said the quarterback
Speaker 1: has been the missing link for the Jets. He also
Speaker 1: told reporters that yes, indeed, he is willing to spend
Speaker 1: if that's what Joe Douglas and Robert Salom want to
Speaker 1: do in terms of a veteran quarterback, he is willing
Speaker 1: to spend. With that being said, do you think the
Speaker 1: Jets are gonna not just go out and get a quarterback,
Speaker 1: but go out and get one of these bigger names
Speaker 1: who potentially could be on the market, because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: caution everybody here, a lot of these guys who people
Speaker 1: are floating out there contract until at least the league
Speaker 1: year commences in mark. Yeah, so that's the thing. And
Speaker 1: then like you we all see other rumors out there
Speaker 1: right on in the Twitter verse. Um, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the big fish that everybody has been talking about
Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson, right, who's technically stilling the contract will
Speaker 1: be free when the new year league starts if they
Speaker 1: don't franchise tag him. Now caveat to that. They just
Speaker 1: played ro Kuwan Smith. They have a franchise tag in
Speaker 1: their back pocket. And if you're the Ravens, you literally
Speaker 1: built this offense around Lamar Jackson. Any hope that you
Speaker 1: thought Tyler Huntely just in case it didn't work out,
Speaker 1: could be the guy ended when he tried to sneak
Speaker 1: the ball over the go line and got fumbled and
Speaker 1: return for nine yards for a touchdown. That ended all
Speaker 1: that will not happen. So if you're the Ravens, if
Speaker 1: you don't we sign Lamar Jackson back or bringing back
Speaker 1: on the franchise and work out a deal, you literally
Speaker 1: essentially blowing up your offense because what other quarterback is
Speaker 1: that system fitting for, right, So you take that all
Speaker 1: into part and honestly, to me, Lamar has all the
Speaker 1: leverage in that right now, right like, let's look at it.
Speaker 1: And I know what we're talking about Jets and quarterback,
Speaker 1: but let's just look at it. Just break this down
Speaker 1: to push things forward. The year before, they're the number
Speaker 1: one team in the a f C. The markets hurt.
Speaker 1: What happens to him? They don't even make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: This past year they're teaching around the number one seed.
Speaker 1: Lamar gets hurt. What happens to him? They make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Before you go on, I will just say this watching
Speaker 1: that game Sunday night, they were the better team if Jackson.
Speaker 1: What if Lamar Jackson was on the field, and maybe
Speaker 1: they bet Kansas City the Yeah, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: because the one thing about the Ravens that people were
Speaker 1: complaining about earlier in the year with the defense, when
Speaker 1: Roa Kwan Smith got there, it was a it was
Speaker 1: a night and day change. I mean they went from
Speaker 1: like giving up twenty something a game e A to
Speaker 1: giving up like right under, like thirteen fourteen points a
Speaker 1: game where road Quan Smith got there, and people will
Speaker 1: see the scoreboards and say that's not true, but it
Speaker 1: is true if you look at it right. The week
Speaker 1: A team versus the CINCINNTI Bengals, Trey Henderson had a
Speaker 1: sack FuMB before a touchdown. In the playoff game, they
Speaker 1: had what a fumble for a touchdown. That's not a
Speaker 1: defense giving those points up. That's the offense, right, Let's
Speaker 1: not forget. Also, Anthony Brown had two interceptions where they
Speaker 1: got the ball in plus territory, so you're already against it.
Speaker 1: If you're the defense. We gotta hold them the three
Speaker 1: and the Ravens did that. So it's like that defense
Speaker 1: is played at an elite level and they are starting
Speaker 1: to get up there in the age now, so that
Speaker 1: that that whorries you, like you were kind of hoping
Speaker 1: Lamar would have been able to play to see what
Speaker 1: this team really could have did if with him at quarterback,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I think I don't. That's Calais Campbell have
Speaker 1: another year in them. Marcus Peters is getting up there
Speaker 1: in age like now. They're young everywhere else those are
Speaker 1: the guys have been two star Wars and they've done
Speaker 1: a really good job justin Matta Beaca is really good inside,
Speaker 1: so he'll be able to probably take that next step
Speaker 1: when Calais walks away ultimately and then outside at the corner. Right,
Speaker 1: they still got Marlin Humphrey, so they're really good there,
Speaker 1: but they've had you know, Stevens Whorley. They probably need
Speaker 1: another corner too because Marcus Peters is getting up there
Speaker 1: in age safety. They're good, right, They're good. They got
Speaker 1: they got you know, Marcus Williams, who I know the
Speaker 1: Jets flirted with this offseason. They also got the Williams
Speaker 1: kid from Houston, and Kyle Williams is the caveat right
Speaker 1: because I was never the biggest Kyle Williams fan, and
Speaker 1: they've had a hard time trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to use them there. Right, Hamilton's my bad, I said Williams.
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's um. They've made him a blitzer. They put
Speaker 1: him in the slot, and when I saw his filming
Speaker 1: college people, he's playing slot, I was like, no, he can't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have any lateral quickness. It's not me taking
Speaker 1: a shot at the kid. And we've seen in the
Speaker 1: NFL he struggled in the slot against guys you know,
Speaker 1: like Tyler Bloyd, guys that have short area quickness. Um.
Speaker 1: To me, I think they need to use them like
Speaker 1: Dallas used j Ron Curse. Make him a dime linebacker.
Speaker 1: I think he succeed and flourish in that position as
Speaker 1: a dime linebacker. Um. But the only thing is you
Speaker 1: took him, like what top fifteen do you do? You
Speaker 1: make your top fifteam pick and and kudos to the Ravens, right,
Speaker 1: they didn't force him out there when he wasn't ready.
Speaker 1: That's what that organization does. So, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: lot to deal with with the Ravens, right, because it said, again,
Speaker 1: if you essentially blow the system up, you're literally starting over.
Speaker 1: You're starting to clock over. We'll harbar stay for that.
Speaker 1: You know. Derek car is another name that's out there
Speaker 1: right and on all intenps of purposes, the Readis have
Speaker 1: said they're gonna most likely move forward. Um. I think
Speaker 1: they have what three days after the Super Bowl to
Speaker 1: make a decision. They said, if he doesn't get traded
Speaker 1: by then they will release them. It will be a
Speaker 1: free agent frenzy for him, right, and then I think
Speaker 1: he fits his system perfectly right. The just just needed
Speaker 1: somebody to make enough plays at quarterback and not turn
Speaker 1: the ball over. Now, Derek Carr did turn the ball
Speaker 1: over quite a bit last year, but then there was
Speaker 1: a stretch where he didn't turn it over at all.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna bank on what we've known from Derek
Speaker 1: Carr is a guy that has taken care of the football.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget last year, but everything the Raiders went through,
Speaker 1: he helped lead that team to the playoffs and through
Speaker 1: for almost five thousand yards. G a with less talent
Speaker 1: that he has now, right, so him coming here being
Speaker 1: able to be efficient. I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: scoffed at Derek car and I'm like, I don't understand
Speaker 1: why people are scoffing the Derek Carr. He's like a
Speaker 1: top twelve, you know, leven quarterback in my eyes, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think we just have had that since to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I mean maybe Chad Pennington maybe
Speaker 1: one year. Um so yeah, good years up a far
Speaker 1: fire was very good for a while till the shoulder
Speaker 1: fell off exactly. He was up there in age two,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, how can we scoff when
Speaker 1: and again, this is no disrespect to the former quarterbacks
Speaker 1: of the been there, but have we had the top
Speaker 1: eleven quarterback in recent years? Like I can just go
Speaker 1: for the guy that's twelve or thirteen in the league
Speaker 1: right now, you know. And then obviously with w with
Speaker 1: the floor was here, I think the Jimmy g comparison
Speaker 1: was obviously out there too. But again, I love Jimmy,
Speaker 1: but you worry about him being able to withstand the
Speaker 1: whole season because the history shows he's gonna miss some games.
Speaker 1: So there are a couple of names and one that was,
Speaker 1: you know, off the wall. Tom Brady was the one
Speaker 1: that I've heard too, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: see that happening, but you know, you never know. Tom
Speaker 1: might want to come to the Big Apple. Do you
Speaker 1: think he's done real quick? Do you think he's gonna
Speaker 1: play another year? I think he's gonna play another year.
Speaker 1: I think Tom cannot be the sole reason you win
Speaker 1: the championship. Now. I think he has to have an
Speaker 1: offensive line in front of him. I think he has
Speaker 1: to have pieces around him. But rightfully so, I mean, dudes,
Speaker 1: it's forty six years old, Like, yeah, you know, if
Speaker 1: you're expecting to get that Tom Brady from even two
Speaker 1: years ago when they won the Super Bowl. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna get that guy anymore. What if what if he
Speaker 1: told you does he wanted to come here if we
Speaker 1: had Tom Brady lash I feel like if we had
Speaker 1: Tom Brady lash year would have made the playoffs. All right,
Speaker 1: Two quick things before we get you out here, m Wilson,
Speaker 1: Which one, Zack? What what do you do if you're
Speaker 1: him and you just left the facility for the off season,
Speaker 1: Like you talked about it being a confidence thing for him,
Speaker 1: What does he have to work on, both physically and
Speaker 1: maybe even mentally before he gets back here in the spring.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's something like Mike McDaniel did for tour.
Speaker 1: Maybe he needs to go back and watch some of
Speaker 1: the film of him making plays, realizing he can play
Speaker 1: in this league. Because to me right now, it's more
Speaker 1: mental than anything. Like again, his mechanics are bad, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say they're not yet, but as far as
Speaker 1: just that confidence and that mentality, like you gotta get
Speaker 1: back before he can work on anything physical, you know,
Speaker 1: because if your mental is not right, the rest of
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter at all. Like literally,
Speaker 1: so like he needs to just get away from everybody. Right,
Speaker 1: maybe go you know some of the kids who go
Speaker 1: on YouTube, look at some of your highlights, just to realize,
Speaker 1: like I can play in this league, Like I can
Speaker 1: do this. And then it comes down to a mentality
Speaker 1: like all right, you gotta self scout yourself. Yea, what
Speaker 1: am I doing wrong? Physically? What am I doing wrong?
Speaker 1: Why aren't my feet matching my eyes? Right? Why are
Speaker 1: my mechanics all over the place? Right? And then again,
Speaker 1: I don't you know he's had to back as a
Speaker 1: coach before, but maybe he needs to get a new
Speaker 1: quarterback coach to work on specific mechanics and right, And
Speaker 1: then it comes it comes down to you taking the
Speaker 1: coach to e a right. You can get all the
Speaker 1: coach until you're blue in the face, but it has
Speaker 1: to be seen on the field. You gotta transfer that
Speaker 1: from where you practice at to the actual field. So
Speaker 1: that's the three things, like get away from everybody, get
Speaker 1: your confidence back first and foremost that might take a
Speaker 1: month with no football preparation to do. Right, get away,
Speaker 1: go on YouTube, look at your highlights, realize I can
Speaker 1: be the guy. I went number two over all for
Speaker 1: a reason. There's a reason they decided to pick me
Speaker 1: number two a role I could play this game at
Speaker 1: a high level. Two, get your mechanics right, right before
Speaker 1: you even throw a football. He should be working on
Speaker 1: footwork and eye coordination. Right, footwork, eye coordination, hips, like
Speaker 1: I said, from from the ground up, feet hips, hands, eyes.
Speaker 1: He needs to work on all that this off season.
Speaker 1: And then it's about taking the coaching and then displaying
Speaker 1: that on the actual field. So it's the transfer of energy, right,
Speaker 1: transfer that from what you learned from your coach to
Speaker 1: the field. And then it's like I forgot what the
Speaker 1: cliche line is like, Uh, never fear the guy that
Speaker 1: practice over and over and then once he gets the
Speaker 1: right equits, you feel the guy that practices until he
Speaker 1: can't get it wrong. That's what Zach has to do.
Speaker 1: He has to continue to practice until it's second nature
Speaker 1: it to him as far as mechanics and everything, until
Speaker 1: he doesn't get it wrong. Don't just do it till
Speaker 1: you get it right, do it till you can't get
Speaker 1: it wrong. And if he does that, I think he
Speaker 1: has a chance. Because we know about the arm talent,
Speaker 1: we know about the athletic ability. The thing is, now,
Speaker 1: will the Jets give him an opportunity with potentially a
Speaker 1: veterman coming in here. Finally, uh, first weekend in the
Speaker 1: National Football League postseason was very interesting on multiple levels.
Speaker 1: But from a Jets fans perspective, what are your takeaways?
Speaker 1: Because we're looking across town right now at the Giants.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have written Daniel Jones off and
Speaker 1: now he looks like an ascending player in this league
Speaker 1: who's really become a very good quarterback. Um. And then
Speaker 1: the other thing, I want to get your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks overall what you saw first round, but that
Speaker 1: builds my game because Buffalo turned the ball over, they
Speaker 1: kept Miami in it, special teams plays, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: we could go through the list of what Buffalo did wrong,
Speaker 1: and Miami did a lot of things wrong too, but
Speaker 1: they had Skyler Thompson started a quarterback and they still
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to win that game late. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: if you look at it, and you know me, when
Speaker 1: you have had this conversation about Josh Allen, I just
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. And I was I thought
Speaker 1: that brand Brian Dable maybe coasted out of him. He
Speaker 1: can't get reckless with the football and it comes in
Speaker 1: spurts with him that that makes you nervous. A matter
Speaker 1: of fact, if you go back to our first meeting
Speaker 1: with them at Madlife Stadium, there was a transfer of
Speaker 1: what they did on offense after that right he had
Speaker 1: with the two picks, should have had three right in
Speaker 1: that game, and then he had the sack fumble that
Speaker 1: they ended up getting back from Bryce Huff. Right after
Speaker 1: that game, Ken Dorsey was like, all right, I'm I
Speaker 1: gotta back some of this off him. We ran the
Speaker 1: ball and they just I don't get it because they
Speaker 1: average over five yards of carry e a right, they
Speaker 1: just didn't do it. Versus Miami Dolphins. Not granted, Miami
Speaker 1: is one of the best run stopping teams, but even
Speaker 1: in that game, I think they were averaging over five
Speaker 1: yards of carry and they were up and they're just
Speaker 1: slinging the ball away. I don't I don't get it
Speaker 1: with corners. Joe Lombardi. Ultimately, and this is not me
Speaker 1: talking crazy, they cost him his job. Versus versus Jaguars
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you have three scores, Alar has five
Speaker 1: carries in the second half, your quarterback throws the ball
Speaker 1: forty three times. Trevor Lawrence was down four scores and
Speaker 1: through it forty seven times. What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: You can say it's old school or whatever. No, you
Speaker 1: got two cute trying to throw your throw the ball
Speaker 1: a hundred times. Run the ball because even if it's
Speaker 1: three and out e A, that's like two minutes of clock,
Speaker 1: two and a half minutes of clock. Yeah, you most
Speaker 1: likely win that game even if you running three times
Speaker 1: and pun it just because the clock is getting But
Speaker 1: when you throw the ball and you go three and out,
Speaker 1: or even if you do get a first down and
Speaker 1: then the next three plays or three passes and you
Speaker 1: you only use like a minute and a half o'clock, like,
Speaker 1: you keep teams in the game. So like the Bills,
Speaker 1: they literally got a self scout there says now, I
Speaker 1: don't know if Josh Allen is gonna play like that
Speaker 1: in back to back games. But one thing we know
Speaker 1: about this Bengals team is somebody's living right over there
Speaker 1: because they keep getting Their offense is not played to
Speaker 1: the standard these last couple of weeks, and people haven't
Speaker 1: talked about it, like Joe Burrow has made some big
Speaker 1: time throws. Looks like it is twisted right. They scored
Speaker 1: seventeen last week, and really, if you look at it,
Speaker 1: they scored fourteen because you know that picked that Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown had led to points, you know, early in that game,
Speaker 1: and then they scored again on defense. So like that,
Speaker 1: the defense has been able to be bid not break,
Speaker 1: because they really didn't stop the Ravens at all either.
Speaker 1: It was a turnovers that's stop them. Now again, you
Speaker 1: give credit where it's do, but funnily just runs to
Speaker 1: play like it's supposed to be played. Andrews and has
Speaker 1: a record and pushing them into the end zone on
Speaker 1: that quarterback sneak instead of trying to go over the top. Right, Now,
Speaker 1: the interception was really good job by Davis gaither right.
Speaker 1: He was in his own coverage, eyes back to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown didn't even see him, so that I'll give
Speaker 1: them kudos for that. But again, if they don't fumble
Speaker 1: that ball and the Ravens go up seven ar I
Speaker 1: think the Ravens win that game. I think everybody thinks
Speaker 1: the Ravens win that game because they literally were punching
Speaker 1: them in the mouth all night long, and Huntley made
Speaker 1: some big throws to Mark Andrew to Isaiah Likely, I
Speaker 1: mean a slugo on a double move on Eli Apple
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. So the Bengals old line, the Bengals
Speaker 1: old line is a mess too, and the Ravens got
Speaker 1: after them, especially in that second half. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow in that offense, uh, I think they
Speaker 1: punted on like three consecutive drives in that second half,
Speaker 1: and even one where Joe Burrow usually makes a play
Speaker 1: to end the game on third and ten, he was
Speaker 1: able to get out of the pocket. They made a
Speaker 1: couple of guys lists and just hit the ground. But
Speaker 1: that that's you know, kudos to the secondary for the
Speaker 1: Ravens for plastering their guys and not letting somebody open
Speaker 1: because usually in no situation, either runs for the first
Speaker 1: down or he finds somebody open for the first down,
Speaker 1: and there was nowhere for him to go with the
Speaker 1: football and he just slid on the ground. So the
Speaker 1: cock and keep running and ultimately they got that fourth
Speaker 1: and twenty stop at the end. But if if you're
Speaker 1: the Bills, right, if you don't turn the football over,
Speaker 1: you you probably have a lot of confidence going into
Speaker 1: this game, just because you've seen that their offense has struggled,
Speaker 1: you know, more specifically in second halves in the last
Speaker 1: two weeks. Now, granted, this Bills defense is a shell
Speaker 1: of itself. It wasn't like it was last year. They're
Speaker 1: giving it up. You talked about the scholar times with
Speaker 1: thre for over two undred fifty years now. He didn't
Speaker 1: have great completion percentage numbers, right, But his receivers also
Speaker 1: didn't help him out either. Guys were dropping wide open passes.
Speaker 1: He was absolute dots dots in that game. And again
Speaker 1: this Bills defense. There was times with you, Davis White
Speaker 1: and Terren Johnson made some good plays and one on
Speaker 1: one coverage. But this is a different Bengals outfit, right
Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow and those receivers. Now again with Waddle
Speaker 1: and Hill, yes you have to respect that, but with
Speaker 1: the quarterback you probably didn't respect it as much. To me,
Speaker 1: the Bengals want to win this game in Buffalo. They
Speaker 1: have to run the ball. They're another team. Where did
Speaker 1: you forget you have a Pro Bowl, All Pro running back? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you've got the pass catchers, but it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: Joe Mixing is a dude. Like he's a guy like
Speaker 1: you gotta get him involved. And then you talked about
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Would a beat up offensive line, what
Speaker 1: better way to get that offensive line going than to
Speaker 1: run the football. Yeah, you know, Buffalo has been susceptible
Speaker 1: to teams running the ball with the Miami would run
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more, but they literally got
Speaker 1: in the shootout with him and kept up with him.
Speaker 1: So like it's it's it's weird because both of these teams,
Speaker 1: like you used to have Bengals just putting up crazy
Speaker 1: points on offense, used to the Bills defense playing way better.
Speaker 1: It's been opposite this year for both of those teams.
Speaker 1: So dudes, nobody can argue that the Jets haven't closed
Speaker 1: the gap in the division. Yeah, for sure, the gap
Speaker 1: is closed if you look at it. Let New England
Speaker 1: off the hook twice in both of those games. Um,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills game, Josh Allen, the second one, I
Speaker 1: mean they beat the Jets, eat them the first time.
Speaker 1: The second one through for seven and literally they were
Speaker 1: terrified to even kind of put the ball in his
Speaker 1: hand that second half. Michael Carter doesn't have that fumble.
Speaker 1: We finished in the red zone. We sweep the Bills,
Speaker 1: right and then we saw what happened with the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins put up forty on in the first time, but
Speaker 1: the second time no offensive touchdown. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to win this league. You lose the game nine
Speaker 1: to six, essentially it was eleven and six because of
Speaker 1: the laterals and they got the safety at the end.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're your Jets defense, you give
Speaker 1: up nine points, you're supposed to win a game like that.
Speaker 1: So the gap is closed. I think what comes when
Speaker 1: it comes down to again, he is what we kind
Speaker 1: of talked about throughout the show, finding the right guy
Speaker 1: under center right. If you can get that done and
Speaker 1: you can have comparable football on offense, the Jets, there's
Speaker 1: no reason why they couldn't make a serious one in
Speaker 1: the playoffs because anytime you have a top five championship
Speaker 1: type defense, you have a chance in this league. So
Speaker 1: final point, Daniel Jones his success this year. How much
Speaker 1: do you credit him person only for how he stuck
Speaker 1: to it throughout those early turbulent times, And how much
Speaker 1: do you point to day Ball and say day Ball
Speaker 1: is a quarterback whisper, Because not only has he done
Speaker 1: this with Daniel Jones, but Josh Allen was considered a very,
Speaker 1: very raw talent when he came out of Wyoming, and
Speaker 1: he started to shape that guy and turn him into
Speaker 1: a superstar. So again it goes back to I want
Speaker 1: to ask you from a player's perspective, and who's now
Speaker 1: in an analyst role, how much do you credit the
Speaker 1: coaching and how much do you also put on the individual?
Speaker 1: Like you got to give Allen and Daniel Jones a
Speaker 1: lot of credit themselves, but day ball, he certainly has
Speaker 1: worked the magic. Yeah, definitely. Uh, We'll start with Dable
Speaker 1: and then get to the playoffs. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Brian Dable is a quarterback Risciper. Honestly, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen was the one quarterback in that draft class I
Speaker 1: had the most concerns about, right, because he was just
Speaker 1: so raw and he hadn't played the position that long,
Speaker 1: and then he was coming from Wyoming, and then you're
Speaker 1: worried about some of his mechanics. Right, and now he's
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in the league. And some
Speaker 1: of the things that give you pause is what we've
Speaker 1: seen lately though from him as far as turning the
Speaker 1: football over, the fumbles and things of that nature and
Speaker 1: then um, Daniel Jones. Right. People literally really put this
Speaker 1: dude on the scrap pile, right, and I loved him
Speaker 1: coming out of Duke Right. I thought he was efficient quarterback.
Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't talk about his athletic ability,
Speaker 1: but they realized how real it is these last few years,
Speaker 1: more specifically this year. He's a guy that can keep
Speaker 1: plays alive. But going to the players, right, they ball definitely.
Speaker 1: I don't know if either one of those guys have
Speaker 1: the career they have without Brian Dable, but to give
Speaker 1: some credit to both of these players, right, because Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones starting with him, it's a one to thing not
Speaker 1: to turn the football over, right. We saw that more
Speaker 1: specifically in the Vikings game. If it wasn't there, Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones just took off and used his legs right now.
Speaker 1: He was official with football. He threw some absolute darts
Speaker 1: in that game. And guy's worst Scott wide open he
Speaker 1: a Vikings past events is just atrocious. But that was
Speaker 1: the game I think everybody wanted to see. Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: I think he honestly, to be honest, I think he
Speaker 1: made another twenty million dollars off of that game alone. Um,
Speaker 1: going into this all season because he's proven that he
Speaker 1: was a guy that was taking in the top five
Speaker 1: for a reason. Right with Daniel Jones, you can win
Speaker 1: football games. And let's not forget the supporting cast. He's
Speaker 1: doing it with e A Like. These aren't some name guys.
Speaker 1: These are guys. Isaiah Hodgens was a guy that you know,
Speaker 1: was essentially released from the Buffalo Bills because they are
Speaker 1: too deep a receiver. But that's the league, e A. Right,
Speaker 1: There's so many Isaiah Hodgens on every other team. Just
Speaker 1: depends on what team you're on. If anohing they don't
Speaker 1: have a Garrett Wilson there, they don't have a you know,
Speaker 1: a Dig's. You know, they got Josh Allenson help. They
Speaker 1: got him a step one digs don't have a game
Speaker 1: Davis like, and he's able to go out there and
Speaker 1: be efficient with the football. They run the ball well.
Speaker 1: But funny thing is they flipped the scripts last week.
Speaker 1: They passed the ball to run it usually. You know,
Speaker 1: se Kwan's getting twenty take and five Gary z a
Speaker 1: five like. And they beat the brakes other bikes. Now
Speaker 1: the score isn't a digative of that, but they beat
Speaker 1: the Brakes off the Minnesota Vikings. Right, they won the
Speaker 1: physical battle of the line of scrimmage. Dan Jones really
Speaker 1: wanted to on offense. They could not stop him at all,
Speaker 1: no defense. Link Martindale dined up from dialed Up from
Speaker 1: Timely blitz Is and those guys competed and they got
Speaker 1: after Kirk Cousins. So you have to credit day on
Speaker 1: Jones because it's a want to thing to fix your
Speaker 1: problems as far as turning the football over right, it
Speaker 1: is a want to thing as far as being able
Speaker 1: to secure the football, because it wasn't just throwing picks
Speaker 1: for him, it was fumbling the ball as well to
Speaker 1: e a. And he's on a significant, significantly better job
Speaker 1: of protecting the football, which is the number one thing
Speaker 1: you have to do as a quarterback. Yeah, uh, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's so interesting to watch not only how
Speaker 1: these playoffs unfold, but for the Jets. Who is gonna
Speaker 1: be that new offensive leader, the captain and the ship
Speaker 1: And then also where's Zack Wilson is that when he
Speaker 1: comes back and starts learning a new system and then
Speaker 1: potentially what the Jets do here in the off season
Speaker 1: with possibly a veteran quarterback, But we got a little
Speaker 1: bit of time before that. All starts breaking mid March
Speaker 1: is going to be interesting here. As always, Jets have
Speaker 1: definitely a lot less holes, but they got to fill
Speaker 1: that offensive coordinator vacancy and then they got to figure
Speaker 1: out the missing link, and that is the quarterback position. Dude,
Speaker 1: had so much fun catching up with you, man, I
Speaker 1: know you are busy as hacked. Where can people watch
Speaker 1: you this weekend? I know we can listen to you.
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