WEBVTT - Jets Offensive Coordinator Search Update (1/18)

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<v Speaker 1>And once again, welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We

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<v Speaker 1>were presented by when Bett Betting is a team sport

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<v Speaker 1>bet together at wind Beat. I'm Eric Allen here at

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<v Speaker 1>our studio at one Jets Drive, joined by one of

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<v Speaker 1>the busiest men and professional sports, my buddy Lejade Douzable. Dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>are you keeping your head above water? We're trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>We're almost there. We're almost The light is at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the tunnel. You know, Division around this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>and Championship weekend, and we got a Pro Bowl weekend

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<v Speaker 1>in between with Singer Bowl and then you know the

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<v Speaker 1>KUTA right Super Bowl at the end. Oh man, only

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks away. Okay, but let's off the top

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what's going on right here with the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>What were your initial reactions when you had heard that

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets had parted ways with offensive coordinator Michael Flour. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you hear rumors, but just from everybody I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to, you know, it was a bit surprising, but

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<v Speaker 1>not surprising. E A. Um, when you understand that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when teams heard that the Jets may move on without

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Floor, they might mutually part ways. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interest from other teams. I believe I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he signed with the Rams already. UM, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know he has a familiarity, UM with Sean McVeigh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know his brother coach with him at Washington. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm I don't get it. I would say only

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<v Speaker 1>because it's hard as an offensive coordinator to play to

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<v Speaker 1>make play calls, right. I don't think people understand that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a true art to calling plays. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're handicapped at times because there's an

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<v Speaker 1>epic flow at the quarterback position, there's no continuity there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough, like where does that puts you at as

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<v Speaker 1>far as rhythm, because everything when you call plays A

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<v Speaker 1>is a rhythm, right, and if you've played four quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>in one year, there is no rhythm. Right. It's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>You got offer the line injuries up front. Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you lose Breese Hall a VT early in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough. Yes, the NFL you have to adjust, but

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<v Speaker 1>but some things are just tough to over overcome. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, losing Napper rest in peace to him,

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<v Speaker 1>was a big blow to this staff, right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought maybe that you know, Salo and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>staff would maybe bring somebody in that's a veteran, like

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<v Speaker 1>a Kubiak or something like that, while keeping Mike Lafloor on.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems like the end of the day they

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<v Speaker 1>mutually wanted to part ways and you know, best of

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<v Speaker 1>luck to Mike. You know, I was with Mike in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand seventeen with the San Franciscofore and not it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like with Sala. Great dude, I love him and

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<v Speaker 1>wish something but the best for him. Yeah, good dude,

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<v Speaker 1>creative mind. He's a hard worker. I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have success in the National Football League. We saw him

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<v Speaker 1>have some success here. We talked about the quarterback instability. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody could have predicted that the Jets would have started

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<v Speaker 1>Joe flack or to start the year. He gains the

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Rave and Joe Flacco ended the year and the

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<v Speaker 1>teams starting quarterback against the Miami Dolphins. When you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the quarterback instability, what happened though to the team

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<v Speaker 1>down the stretch. We're not I mean, we're gonna push

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<v Speaker 1>this thing forward, but like you mentioned that, hey, the

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<v Speaker 1>play caller couldn't get into a rhythm, and yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback has so much to do with it. But what

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<v Speaker 1>else was happening, in your eyes, is why the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>faltered down the stretch completely dues because they didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>score a touchdown in those final three games. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>lack of productivity from the quarterback position was definitely one

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<v Speaker 1>we all know and not to be the dead horse,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't even know for a legal not to

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<v Speaker 1>say that anymore. But you know, with Zack Wilson, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it came to a point where it was a

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<v Speaker 1>confidence thing. And then obviously his mechanics and everything, we're

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. Um, And that's something that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't fix during the season, e ain't. That's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you literally need a total ruby reboots in the off

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<v Speaker 1>season to get your feet and and arms and eyes

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<v Speaker 1>to match. Um. But you know, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>besides that, the one thing you gotta have in this league,

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<v Speaker 1>he's confidence. And I think the confidence was wavering on

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Wilson just because he had a lack of success

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<v Speaker 1>after being benched and coming back. And yes, people will say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a Detroit game, I think it through

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<v Speaker 1>for over three hundred yards, But how many of that

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<v Speaker 1>was just you know, out of the pocket right off script,

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<v Speaker 1>not living within the offense. And we know this, We've

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<v Speaker 1>had this discussion many times. That's not viable offense. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that on a week to week basis, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think everything came to head in the

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville game. And I actually went back and watched that

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville game as I was preparing UH to do the

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<v Speaker 1>pre and post games for the wild card weekend. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville played the Chargers, and like the Chargers, the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>like to play a lot of man covers. Their corners

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<v Speaker 1>are aggressive, they're getting your face. And whenever they did that,

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence had issues. But you know that's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>something else. Getting back to zack Um first quarter XTI

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play that bad. Yeah, when I went back and

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<v Speaker 1>watched it, it was the second quarter, and and then

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<v Speaker 1>you just saw his confidence just like in wavering as

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<v Speaker 1>incomplete passes happened. He had to throw balls away on

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<v Speaker 1>third down because you know, the offensive line struggled a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in that game. And we know on Thursday Night football,

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<v Speaker 1>especially late in the season. I think that was like

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<v Speaker 1>Week sixteen, your body's beat up. Right, So as far

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<v Speaker 1>as like the injuries up front, getting that continuity down,

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<v Speaker 1>because even talking about continuity with Michael Floor, the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line was in flux this year. Right, We've got Max

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell starting half the year. You got Cedric Gwenny started

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<v Speaker 1>half the year. You got George Fatt starting half the

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<v Speaker 1>year at one position, right tackle. Right, we even at

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<v Speaker 1>a v T in the beginning year starting had left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody saw that coming. So it's it's it's just hard

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<v Speaker 1>for a young quarterback, right when you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>under pressure and they're like everybody's telling you you have

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<v Speaker 1>to throw the ball at the bounce, you cannot put

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<v Speaker 1>it in harm's way. I think he felt like he

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<v Speaker 1>was handicapped. I don't know where his confident level was

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the season, and then he almost

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<v Speaker 1>had to play in week te there Joe Flaccer right

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<v Speaker 1>went down because Mike, you know, Mike um White was hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have to go right back in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's just a constant, epic flow and

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<v Speaker 1>there was no continuity. It was tough. It's it's it's hard,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said in the last three weeks. It seas

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<v Speaker 1>you don't score a touchdown, right, that's somebody's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>the blame for that, whether it's the quarterback, the offensive coordinated,

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<v Speaker 1>the old line, and I just think that the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>really struggled down the back half when you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be playing your best football. It was a total opposite

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive side. So let's bridge this thing forward. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>what should Robert Sale, Joe Douglas, Woody Johnson and company

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<v Speaker 1>be looking for in terms of a new Jets offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, this is a very specific system the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>ran the last two years and you know it. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, I think people sometimes on the outside are

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<v Speaker 1>eager for an overhaul. But every time you change assist um,

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<v Speaker 1>that means a new guy comes in because he might

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<v Speaker 1>be looking for certain types of personnelity you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>right now to that roster. So if you're these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and Woody Johnson made it clear the other day, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Robert Salis call Joe Douglas said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But Joel, obviously he's gonna give solid support. What should

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<v Speaker 1>he be looking for in terms of an offensive coordinator? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get into that, That's exactly why I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think Michaelafore should have been relieved, and essentially he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get relieved. It was a mutual splitting, right, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I thought, you know, a lot of fans were

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<v Speaker 1>on the upwar like we should get around. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you guys understand that. Like, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>any chance of Zach Wilson bounced back, or even the

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<v Speaker 1>new quarterback that's coming in, right, you've got all the

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<v Speaker 1>pieces in the system right now to fit that Lafloor

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<v Speaker 1>Santa hand offense. Right, So like if you bring somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in that doesn't run that offense, and we know how

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<v Speaker 1>this league is, a lot of guys come in, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy doesn't fit my system, or this guy you're

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<v Speaker 1>starting all over again, you're gonna have the same issues

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<v Speaker 1>you had last year. And also it takes the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>literally like two years to really grasp the system. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>not forget Aaron Rodgers one of the greatest of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>right as far as just pure talent, Right, some people

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<v Speaker 1>will say probably the best we've ever seen. Now, my

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<v Speaker 1>homes might have something to say about that. Towards the

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<v Speaker 1>end of his career, but as far as right now,

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<v Speaker 1>with with with the two eyes that we have in

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<v Speaker 1>our skulls that we've seen, nobody has been better as

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<v Speaker 1>far as pure talent from Aaron Rodgers standpoint right. People

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was done his first year within the floor system.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think people tend to forget. People were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about maybe they should move on to Jordan's love because

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't look good. It takes two years to get

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<v Speaker 1>into this system, you know, you know thoroughly and really

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<v Speaker 1>grasp it what happened the next two years back to

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<v Speaker 1>back gam v PCAs right. So it's like but with

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<v Speaker 1>Michael for Leavin, if you essentially don't bring somebody in

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<v Speaker 1>with a similar system, which is why I like Gary Kobayak,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is under that tree, you're starting to clock

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<v Speaker 1>over again and we could have these same problems on

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<v Speaker 1>offense next year no matter who the quarterback is, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's Zack Wilson, Mike White, Derek Carlo, Mark Jackson, just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing out a few names, you're starting that cock over again.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's tough, right, because that's that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>league is. It's like it's a production based business. But

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<v Speaker 1>in that time, like your your actually do some unspeakable

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<v Speaker 1>things as far as changing personnel, changing systems while still

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<v Speaker 1>competing and making runs in the playoffs. Well, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of names reported out there, dudes, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just throw a few at you. Um, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>top top of mind, whatever comes to mind as far

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<v Speaker 1>as any of these guys. Bill's quarterbacks coach, Joe Brady

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Brady, who was the former Colts offensive coordinator. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Petullo, the Eagles passing game coordinator, actually worked here

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<v Speaker 1>under Chan Gaily a few years back. Brian Johnson, the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles quarterbacks coach. Pep Hamilton's who was Lovey Smith's offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator with the Houston Texans. Daryl Bevil's name has been

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned a ton. He's Miami's quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been an offensive coordinator for four different teams. He

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<v Speaker 1>also worked with Solo way back in the day in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're hearing a lot of names, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different reports. Obviously the Jets aren't confirming anything. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>from what you've heard so far, top of mind, what

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<v Speaker 1>what have you thought? Yeah, Darren Bevil is the one

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the last name you said that I

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<v Speaker 1>think has been most linked to the Jets just because

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<v Speaker 1>of the relationship Robert Salo had with him going back

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<v Speaker 1>to their Seattle days. I think he's a guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran coming presence that could be really good. And

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<v Speaker 1>this system um system is not too far off from

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<v Speaker 1>what Michael Floor did, so I think that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a good name and name I talked about earlier, Gary Kubiak,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they should call him to see if you

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<v Speaker 1>come out of retirement. I mean, it's the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>has played a long time in this system, right, was

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<v Speaker 1>key in that you know zone stretched scheme and then

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<v Speaker 1>play action off of that and being decisive getting the

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<v Speaker 1>ball out of your hands. System. It's quarterback friendly, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's another calming presence that could be great

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jets quarterback room, whether it's Zack Wilson or

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran they bring in. So, I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to think about. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people were enamored with the Bevil name, but you also

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<v Speaker 1>gotta think e A and whatdy. Johnson hasn't come out

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<v Speaker 1>and said it's a playoff mandate, but we essentially know

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<v Speaker 1>it's get to the playoffs or something might happen in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season. Right, so you gotta take into key,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta take in take that into account when you're

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive coordinator potentially coming to the Jets, Right, I

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<v Speaker 1>literally got one year to get this done. So like

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<v Speaker 1>having a young guy probably isn't the best thing first

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<v Speaker 1>you want all we gotta think, right because you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>convince that guy to leave his job come here, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's literally one and done if most likely one and

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<v Speaker 1>done if you don't get it done right. So, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a guy like Kubiak or you know, um

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<v Speaker 1>Bevil who have been in the system before and if

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<v Speaker 1>you know, been coaches for a long time in this league,

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<v Speaker 1>they understand, you know, the timetable. They understand that you

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<v Speaker 1>got the top five defense. They understand you've got probably

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<v Speaker 1>offensive rookie of the year and Garrett Willson, Breese Hall

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<v Speaker 1>Breese Hall coming back a b T. So maybe they're not,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, nervous about taking a job like that

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<v Speaker 1>as where a young guy who might be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>come on just because it's his first opportunity as officers

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<v Speaker 1>a coordinator. But then again, how would the offense flow

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a totally different system, you know, And I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard some names floated out there that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know after that realistic, like a Frank Reich,

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<v Speaker 1>because Reich is interviewing for head coaching jobs and people

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about Cliff Kingsbury and people are reporting that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've seen the photos from Island, right, So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know how realistic that some of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys are home run. Who Frank Wright would be

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<v Speaker 1>at home run? But like you said, he I just

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<v Speaker 1>think what his history and what he did with the Coats.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's legitimately gonna get some head coaching opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it comes down to again, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran guy, played in the league, coach for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna have a bevy of places to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got that way. The way is option as far

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<v Speaker 1>as if I come to the Jets right, we essentially

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<v Speaker 1>probably most likely got to get it done this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Where if I wait and go to another team, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers or somewhere else that needs offers a coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>do I have two years minimum at least to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of put my system and get guys going, get guys

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable in the system. But charges are essentially, I think

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<v Speaker 1>in the same position as a jet. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>go there, I think it's literally they got They have

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<v Speaker 1>probably a playoff mandated more than the playoff minute. They

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<v Speaker 1>probably gotta go past the first round after what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with them in Jacksonville being up seven nothing. So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's this is what the all season is about,

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<v Speaker 1>right ea. You know, speculations where guys are gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>um and filling out the staff and filling it out

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<v Speaker 1>So in a perfect world, you would want an experience

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<v Speaker 1>play caller who's called the shots in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 1>but also has familiarity, at least has some familiarity, has

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<v Speaker 1>worked in a system that the Jets operated in the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years. With that being said, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>who they bring in here, what is Sala looking for

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<v Speaker 1>do you think, Because you know the man very well,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he wants an offensive scores points, you can run

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<v Speaker 1>the football, who can operate late in the season where

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets faltered down the stretch where they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>flourish in December. But what do you think he would

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<v Speaker 1>want as far as philosophical mind to match what he

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<v Speaker 1>does defensively? Because something that you and Bart have told

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<v Speaker 1>me repeatedly about this defense, and it seems so ailmentary,

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<v Speaker 1>But you got to operate with the lead. This is

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<v Speaker 1>all about getting ton pass rushers on the field and

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<v Speaker 1>dominating in the fourth quarter and pinning your ears back

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<v Speaker 1>and getting to the quarterback. You saw you started seeing

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<v Speaker 1>those rush numbers go up elevate late in the season

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<v Speaker 1>because the Jets were never in the league. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the thing, right, I think you just want

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that's comparable, right, you just want comparable football. Honestly, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you would love to play with the league. But like

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<v Speaker 1>you stated earlier in this podcast, yea no touchdown was

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<v Speaker 1>the last three weeks. Like again, and people I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>fans on Twitter going after the defense. It's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we get spoiled that time, right when you used

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<v Speaker 1>to the defense dominating weekend and week out. But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing you have to understand in this league, he is

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<v Speaker 1>that this is gonna be a week or two where

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<v Speaker 1>you may not play to the standard. Can that other

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<v Speaker 1>position or other side of the football elevate the team

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<v Speaker 1>to win in no scenarios? Perfect example, let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>the four n versus the Raiders, which sent him had

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<v Speaker 1>his first start. That defense didn't play to the standard.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave up thirty one points to Jared Stidham, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's there for three sixty five bore. Having on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive side, a A picked their defense up. They scored

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four to win in overtime and beat the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you gotta have, Like comparable football. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna always play your best, right even towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. You want to be playing your best.

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<v Speaker 1>There's times where you may instead of giving up only

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<v Speaker 1>three points, you may give up thirteam, which in in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, you still should win games if you give

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<v Speaker 1>up thirteen points. Yeah, social media, I know you've been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty vocal about that with fans. The back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>to get the lack of complimentary football is just killing

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets down the stretch and the defense to be

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<v Speaker 1>superman play in and play out, like that's not realistic

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. So, like that's the thing that that

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have on offense. You gotta have somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>comes in at it one and stokes and invokes confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right now, you know how much confidence is on

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<v Speaker 1>that side of the football, because you talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>last three weeks no touchdowns, Like we know Gary Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of conference with no breeze Hall A

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<v Speaker 1>v T. These are some of our younger players. But

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get everybody on that side of the ball

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<v Speaker 1>having confidence that we can go out there and score

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<v Speaker 1>on anybody. We don't care who the defense is. Right

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<v Speaker 1>then again, my thing, I think Solid wants somebody that's

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable to this offense because because the pieces there. Now again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big proponent, and I never liked when when

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<v Speaker 1>coordinators go somewhere like this guy doesn't fit my system.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tag wash to me. Your job as a coach

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<v Speaker 1>is to coach what can a player do well? Don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what he can't do, tell me what he

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<v Speaker 1>can do well. Put him in that position where he

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<v Speaker 1>can succeed doing things well. And that's what I really

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<v Speaker 1>loved about Rex Ryan. He rarely put dudes in positions

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<v Speaker 1>where he knew they weren't gonna be successful, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had everybody had a key part to his defense. They

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<v Speaker 1>had something specific that they did well, and he let

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<v Speaker 1>them do that. Right. So, as a coordinator, really it's

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<v Speaker 1>offense or defense, that's your job to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>players do well and put them in position to make plays.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we go back to Denzel Mims a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people were kind of mad at Lafour for for

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<v Speaker 1>not putting this guy out there was six ft two pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>runs like a gazelle, And I was glad that he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to get an opportunity late in the season

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<v Speaker 1>and started playing well and he started making play So again, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have a system in your head, a specific system,

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<v Speaker 1>but find out what players do well put them in

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<v Speaker 1>in positions to succeed. I think that's something else that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Robert Salo would look for, right, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we get our playmakers making plays, whether they fit the

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<v Speaker 1>system or not. What do they do well, and how

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<v Speaker 1>do we get them in positions where they can succeed

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<v Speaker 1>doing what they do well. That was a super point

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<v Speaker 1>about Rex Ryan, because I've always made the argument that

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<v Speaker 1>I'd walk downstairs in his office he started with he

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<v Speaker 1>would break out the playbook, he'd show you a number

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<v Speaker 1>of plays, and he'd always have something for everybody. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people that if he had me on the

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<v Speaker 1>field and safety, he creates just a special blitz for

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<v Speaker 1>me that yes, he was not gonna use throughout the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna get fifteen rops, but I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get two rops in here. He was gonna point me

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<v Speaker 1>in position to make a play, even me, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>who you were. Whenever you did well, Rex would find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, he if it was one or two

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<v Speaker 1>plays a game, it would be timely too when he

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<v Speaker 1>put you out there, because it would be the last

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<v Speaker 1>thing the offense would expect. What are the pros to

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<v Speaker 1>this job if you are a candidate? What makes this

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<v Speaker 1>an attractive job? The Jets offensive coordinator position. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what we kind of talked about earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>right than again, you worry about the timeline because it

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<v Speaker 1>could be essentially get to the playoffs or staff changes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just the reality of football. I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tough for ere to even talk about. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at it right, the positivities you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of top five defense, he a you can lean on

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<v Speaker 1>your defense, So you know that coming into this, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gotta go out here and put up thirty

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<v Speaker 1>a game, right, I got a defense out of holding

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<v Speaker 1>guys thirteen fourteen points a game. We just get seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. We got a chance to win. Right. That's

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<v Speaker 1>tough for a lot of coordinators, a lot of coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>in this league can't say that, e A. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the Jets, you can say that because

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<v Speaker 1>it's on tape. We've seen that. So that's number one.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a top five defense, right, You have probably

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<v Speaker 1>two of the best young offensive talents at the skilled

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<v Speaker 1>position on your team. When you talked about Gary Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>going over eleven hundred yards with four different quarterbacks, brees

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.479
<v Speaker 1>saw who most likely would have been offensive Rookie of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year, and Gary Rulson even kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>chuckled and laughed about that. When I acts at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season, if Breese Haw stays healthy, does

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<v Speaker 1>he win offenser Rookie of the Year, He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt. That boy's cold. He's cold, Like I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>what the number one is. It was astounding looked at

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<v Speaker 1>it when Breese Hall and A v T went out,

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<v Speaker 1>the dropping production from the run game was out staying.

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<v Speaker 1>It was ridiculous. I think it was like from five

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<v Speaker 1>point five to like three point five without him in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I think the points were game drastically dropped

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So you got a button start out. You

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<v Speaker 1>worry about him coming back from that injury because it

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 1>was pretty it was a pretty ugly injury, right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but from all intends of purposes and everything I heard,

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<v Speaker 1>he's well, had a schedule on treatment. He's looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe coming back at the beginning of training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>A b T has come out and said he will

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<v Speaker 1>be ready by by training camp. Again, let the medical

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<v Speaker 1>staff do what they do. Take your time, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason. You don't gotta be superheroes. We need you

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<v Speaker 1>for a seventeen game stretch in the season. But you

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<v Speaker 1>got those two guys on the skillutation. The av T

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best young offensive lineman and most versatile

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman in the league. Yeah, there's not many times

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<v Speaker 1>where a guy can go up and down the line

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<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage. He started games left tackle, right tackle, and

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<v Speaker 1>right guard. That is absurd for a player in his

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<v Speaker 1>second year and playing at a high level at each

0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.120
<v Speaker 1>one of those. So if your officers the corner top

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<v Speaker 1>five defense two off, so woki of your candidates. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the best young offensive a lineman the Jets have

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>seen in a long time. It's coming back from injury.

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Then you've got a compliment of tight ends and I

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>we'll see again. With contracts and how they're all, you know,

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:14.680
<v Speaker 1>set up. We'll see if there will be some changes

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 1>at the tighten position. But we saw record played really

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.640
<v Speaker 1>well in that Miami game and bring a physical presence

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to the run game. I think that's something we could do.

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 1>And he had a really good you know, I won't

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.879
<v Speaker 1>say circus catch, but it was his body was going

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>in one direction, the ball was going another. He made

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.639
<v Speaker 1>a really good catch from Joe Flacco on a bootleg.

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>So I think they'll get him more involved. Honestly, was

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 1>surprised he didn't playing a little bit more this year.

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:38.640
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Tyler Conklin, I don't I'm not sure

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>if he got to the sixty catches e A, but

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 1>you gotta tie. And I got close to sixty catches

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 1>quiet like we talked about a quiet sixty, but he

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>got almost got the sixty kids. Just so you look

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>at those pieces and you're like, I got a lot

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to work with right now. We do gotta shri up

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and solidified officer line. We got a lot of dudes

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 1>coming off injury injuries, which gives you some pause and

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>it makes you a little nervous. But you know, the

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.679
<v Speaker 1>number one thing is we got to find a quarterback here.

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's what the offening recording is thinking about,

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Like can we fix Zach Wilson? Right? Is it just

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>a mechanical thing? And also if we bring a veteran

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 1>in here, is this system going to be friendly for

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 1>him to have success quickly? Because again, there is a

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>timetable to this, and it's tough to talk about in

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, but there is a true timetable to this.

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 1>We may have to get this done in one year,

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 1>but I love what we got on offense. As far

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>as our skill position players, we have a a star

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>warth and a v T up front on old line,

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 1>and we have a top five defense, so we have

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot to work with. Woody Johnson said the quarterback

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>has been the missing link for the Jets. He also

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>told reporters that yes, indeed, he is willing to spend

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>if that's what Joe Douglas and Robert Salom want to

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 1>do in terms of a veteran quarterback, he is willing

0:24:55.680 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>to spend. With that being said, do you think the

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Jets are gonna not just go out and get a quarterback,

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.879
<v Speaker 1>but go out and get one of these bigger names

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>who potentially could be on the market, because I'm gonna

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>caution everybody here, a lot of these guys who people

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>are floating out there contract until at least the league

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>year commences in mark. Yeah, so that's the thing. And

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 1>then like you we all see other rumors out there

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>right on in the Twitter verse. Um, I mean, I

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>think the big fish that everybody has been talking about

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>is Lamar Jackson, right, who's technically stilling the contract will

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>be free when the new year league starts if they

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>don't franchise tag him. Now caveat to that. They just

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>played ro Kuwan Smith. They have a franchise tag in

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.640
<v Speaker 1>their back pocket. And if you're the Ravens, you literally

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>built this offense around Lamar Jackson. Any hope that you

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>thought Tyler Huntely just in case it didn't work out,

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>could be the guy ended when he tried to sneak

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the ball over the go line and got fumbled and

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>return for nine yards for a touchdown. That ended all

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:02.199
<v Speaker 1>that will not happen. So if you're the Ravens, if

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't we sign Lamar Jackson back or bringing back

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>on the franchise and work out a deal, you literally

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>essentially blowing up your offense because what other quarterback is

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>that system fitting for, right, So you take that all

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>into part and honestly, to me, Lamar has all the

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>leverage in that right now, right like, let's look at it.

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 1>And I know what we're talking about Jets and quarterback,

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>but let's just look at it. Just break this down

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to push things forward. The year before, they're the number

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>one team in the a f C. The markets hurt.

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>What happens to him? They don't even make the playoffs.

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>This past year they're teaching around the number one seed.

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Lamar gets hurt. What happens to him? They make the playoffs.

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Before you go on, I will just say this watching

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that game Sunday night, they were the better team if Jackson.

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>What if Lamar Jackson was on the field, and maybe

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.959
<v Speaker 1>they bet Kansas City the Yeah, if you think about it,

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 1>because the one thing about the Ravens that people were

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 1>complaining about earlier in the year with the defense, when

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Roa Kwan Smith got there, it was a it was

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>a night and day change. I mean they went from

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>like giving up twenty something a game e A to

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 1>giving up like right under, like thirteen fourteen points a

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>game where road Quan Smith got there, and people will

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>see the scoreboards and say that's not true, but it

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>is true if you look at it right. The week

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>A team versus the CINCINNTI Bengals, Trey Henderson had a

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>sack FuMB before a touchdown. In the playoff game, they

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>had what a fumble for a touchdown. That's not a

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>defense giving those points up. That's the offense, right, Let's

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>not forget. Also, Anthony Brown had two interceptions where they

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>got the ball in plus territory, so you're already against it.

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 1>If you're the defense. We gotta hold them the three

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>and the Ravens did that. So it's like that defense

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 1>is played at an elite level and they are starting

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to get up there in the age now, so that

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that that whorries you, like you were kind of hoping

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Lamar would have been able to play to see what

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.360
<v Speaker 1>this team really could have did if with him at quarterback,

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, I think I don't. That's Calais Campbell have

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>another year in them. Marcus Peters is getting up there

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>in age like now. They're young everywhere else those are

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.959
<v Speaker 1>the guys have been two star Wars and they've done

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>a really good job justin Matta Beaca is really good inside,

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>so he'll be able to probably take that next step

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>when Calais walks away ultimately and then outside at the corner. Right,

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>they still got Marlin Humphrey, so they're really good there,

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>but they've had you know, Stevens Whorley. They probably need

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>another corner too because Marcus Peters is getting up there

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in age safety. They're good, right, They're good. They got

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>they got you know, Marcus Williams, who I know the

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Jets flirted with this offseason. They also got the Williams

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>kid from Houston, and Kyle Williams is the caveat right

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>because I was never the biggest Kyle Williams fan, and

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>they've had a hard time trying to figure out how

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>to use them there. Right, Hamilton's my bad, I said Williams.

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Hamilton's um. They've made him a blitzer. They put

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>him in the slot, and when I saw his filming

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>college people, he's playing slot, I was like, no, he can't.

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have any lateral quickness. It's not me taking

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a shot at the kid. And we've seen in the

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>NFL he struggled in the slot against guys you know,

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>like Tyler Bloyd, guys that have short area quickness. Um.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>To me, I think they need to use them like

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Dallas used j Ron Curse. Make him a dime linebacker.

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he succeed and flourish in that position as

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>a dime linebacker. Um. But the only thing is you

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>took him, like what top fifteen do you do? You

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>make your top fifteam pick and and kudos to the Ravens, right,

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>they didn't force him out there when he wasn't ready.

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>That's what that organization does. So, I mean there's a

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>lot to deal with with the Ravens, right, because it said, again,

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>if you essentially blow the system up, you're literally starting over.

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>You're starting to clock over. We'll harbar stay for that.

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>You know. Derek car is another name that's out there

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>right and on all intenps of purposes, the Readis have

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>said they're gonna most likely move forward. Um. I think

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>they have what three days after the Super Bowl to

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>make a decision. They said, if he doesn't get traded

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>by then they will release them. It will be a

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>free agent frenzy for him, right, and then I think

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>he fits his system perfectly right. The just just needed

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody to make enough plays at quarterback and not turn

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the ball over. Now, Derek Carr did turn the ball

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>over quite a bit last year, but then there was

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a stretch where he didn't turn it over at all.

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna bank on what we've known from Derek

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Carr is a guy that has taken care of the football.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's not forget last year, but everything the Raiders went through,

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>he helped lead that team to the playoffs and through

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>for almost five thousand yards. G a with less talent

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>that he has now, right, so him coming here being

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>able to be efficient. I know a lot of people

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>scoffed at Derek car and I'm like, I don't understand

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>why people are scoffing the Derek Carr. He's like a

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>top twelve, you know, leven quarterback in my eyes, Like,

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we just have had that since to

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, I mean maybe Chad Pennington maybe

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>one year. Um so yeah, good years up a far

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>fire was very good for a while till the shoulder

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>fell off exactly. He was up there in age two,

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's like, how can we scoff when

0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and again, this is no disrespect to the former quarterbacks

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>of the been there, but have we had the top

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>eleven quarterback in recent years? Like I can just go

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>for the guy that's twelve or thirteen in the league

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>right now, you know. And then obviously with w with

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the floor was here, I think the Jimmy g comparison

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>was obviously out there too. But again, I love Jimmy,

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>but you worry about him being able to withstand the

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.959
<v Speaker 1>whole season because the history shows he's gonna miss some games.

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>So there are a couple of names and one that was,

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, off the wall. Tom Brady was the one

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>that I've heard too, and I was like, I don't

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>see that happening, but you know, you never know. Tom

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>might want to come to the Big Apple. Do you

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>think he's done real quick? Do you think he's gonna

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>play another year? I think he's gonna play another year.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I think Tom cannot be the sole reason you win

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the championship. Now. I think he has to have an

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>offensive line in front of him. I think he has

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>to have pieces around him. But rightfully so, I mean, dudes,

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it's forty six years old, Like, yeah, you know, if

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you're expecting to get that Tom Brady from even two

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>years ago when they won the Super Bowl. You're not

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna get that guy anymore. What if what if he

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>told you does he wanted to come here if we

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>had Tom Brady lash I feel like if we had

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady lash year would have made the playoffs. All right,

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Two quick things before we get you out here, m Wilson,

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Which one, Zack? What what do you do if you're

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>him and you just left the facility for the off season,

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you talked about it being a confidence thing for him,

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>What does he have to work on, both physically and

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe even mentally before he gets back here in the spring.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe it's something like Mike McDaniel did for tour.

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he needs to go back and watch some of

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the film of him making plays, realizing he can play

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>in this league. Because to me right now, it's more

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>mental than anything. Like again, his mechanics are bad, I'm

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>not gonna say they're not yet, but as far as

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>just that confidence and that mentality, like you gotta get

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>back before he can work on anything physical, you know,

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>because if your mental is not right, the rest of

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter at all. Like literally,

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>so like he needs to just get away from everybody. Right,

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe go you know some of the kids who go

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, look at some of your highlights, just to realize,

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>like I can play in this league, Like I can

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>do this. And then it comes down to a mentality

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>like all right, you gotta self scout yourself. Yea, what

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>am I doing wrong? Physically? What am I doing wrong?

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Why aren't my feet matching my eyes? Right? Why are

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>my mechanics all over the place? Right? And then again,

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know he's had to back as a

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>coach before, but maybe he needs to get a new

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>quarterback coach to work on specific mechanics and right, And

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>then it comes it comes down to you taking the

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>coach to e a right. You can get all the

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>coach until you're blue in the face, but it has

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to be seen on the field. You gotta transfer that

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>from where you practice at to the actual field. So

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>that's the three things, like get away from everybody, get

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>your confidence back first and foremost that might take a

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>month with no football preparation to do. Right, get away,

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>go on YouTube, look at your highlights, realize I can

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>be the guy. I went number two over all for

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a reason. There's a reason they decided to pick me

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>number two a role I could play this game at

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 1>a high level. Two, get your mechanics right, right before

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>you even throw a football. He should be working on

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>footwork and eye coordination. Right, footwork, eye coordination, hips, like

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, from from the ground up, feet hips, hands, eyes.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>He needs to work on all that this off season.

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>And then it's about taking the coaching and then displaying

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 1>that on the actual field. So it's the transfer of energy, right,

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>transfer that from what you learned from your coach to

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 1>the field. And then it's like I forgot what the

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>cliche line is like, Uh, never fear the guy that

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>practice over and over and then once he gets the

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>right equits, you feel the guy that practices until he

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>can't get it wrong. That's what Zach has to do.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>He has to continue to practice until it's second nature

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.720
<v Speaker 1>it to him as far as mechanics and everything, until

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get it wrong. Don't just do it till

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you get it right, do it till you can't get

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>it wrong. And if he does that, I think he

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>has a chance. Because we know about the arm talent,

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>we know about the athletic ability. The thing is, now,

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>will the Jets give him an opportunity with potentially a

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>veterman coming in here. Finally, uh, first weekend in the

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>National Football League postseason was very interesting on multiple levels.

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>But from a Jets fans perspective, what are your takeaways?

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Because we're looking across town right now at the Giants.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have written Daniel Jones off and

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>now he looks like an ascending player in this league

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>who's really become a very good quarterback. Um. And then

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the other thing, I want to get your thoughts on

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks overall what you saw first round, but that

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>builds my game because Buffalo turned the ball over, they

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>kept Miami in it, special teams plays, you know, you know,

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>we could go through the list of what Buffalo did wrong,

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and Miami did a lot of things wrong too, but

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:19.240
<v Speaker 1>they had Skyler Thompson started a quarterback and they still

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>had an opportunity to win that game late. Yeah, And

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>if you look at it, and you know me, when

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you have had this conversation about Josh Allen, I just

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. And I was I thought

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that brand Brian Dable maybe coasted out of him. He

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>can't get reckless with the football and it comes in

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 1>spurts with him that that makes you nervous. A matter

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of fact, if you go back to our first meeting

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 1>with them at Madlife Stadium, there was a transfer of

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>what they did on offense after that right he had

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>with the two picks, should have had three right in

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that game, and then he had the sack fumble that

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>they ended up getting back from Bryce Huff. Right after

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that game, Ken Dorsey was like, all right, I'm I

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>gotta back some of this off him. We ran the

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>ball and they just I don't get it because they

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>average over five yards of carry e a right, they

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>just didn't do it. Versus Miami Dolphins. Not granted, Miami

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>is one of the best run stopping teams, but even

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>in that game, I think they were averaging over five

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>yards of carry and they were up and they're just

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>slinging the ball away. I don't I don't get it

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>with corners. Joe Lombardi. Ultimately, and this is not me

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 1>talking crazy, they cost him his job. Versus versus Jaguars

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, you have three scores, Alar has five

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>carries in the second half, your quarterback throws the ball

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>forty three times. Trevor Lawrence was down four scores and

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>through it forty seven times. What are we doing here?

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>You can say it's old school or whatever. No, you

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>got two cute trying to throw your throw the ball

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a hundred times. Run the ball because even if it's

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>three and out e A, that's like two minutes of clock,

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>two and a half minutes of clock. Yeah, you most

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 1>likely win that game even if you running three times

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and pun it just because the clock is getting But

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:02.439
<v Speaker 1>when you throw the ball and you go three and out,

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>or even if you do get a first down and

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>then the next three plays or three passes and you

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 1>you only use like a minute and a half o'clock, like,

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you keep teams in the game. So like the Bills,

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 1>they literally got a self scout there says now, I

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if Josh Allen is gonna play like that

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>in back to back games. But one thing we know

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>about this Bengals team is somebody's living right over there

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 1>because they keep getting Their offense is not played to

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the standard these last couple of weeks, and people haven't

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 1>talked about it, like Joe Burrow has made some big

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 1>time throws. Looks like it is twisted right. They scored

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>seventeen last week, and really, if you look at it,

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.720
<v Speaker 1>they scored fourteen because you know that picked that Anthony

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Brown had led to points, you know, early in that game,

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and then they scored again on defense. So like that,

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the defense has been able to be bid not break,

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.439
<v Speaker 1>because they really didn't stop the Ravens at all either.

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>It was a turnovers that's stop them. Now again, you

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>give credit where it's do, but funnily just runs to

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>play like it's supposed to be played. Andrews and has

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>a record and pushing them into the end zone on

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that quarterback sneak instead of trying to go over the top. Right, Now,

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the interception was really good job by Davis gaither right.

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 1>He was in his own coverage, eyes back to the quarterback.

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown didn't even see him, so that I'll give

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>them kudos for that. But again, if they don't fumble

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>that ball and the Ravens go up seven ar I

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>think the Ravens win that game. I think everybody thinks

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens win that game because they literally were punching

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>them in the mouth all night long, and Huntley made

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>some big throws to Mark Andrew to Isaiah Likely, I

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>mean a slugo on a double move on Eli Apple

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>for a touchdown. So the Bengals old line, the Bengals

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>old line is a mess too, and the Ravens got

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>after them, especially in that second half. I mean, I

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>think Joe Burrow in that offense, uh, I think they

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>punted on like three consecutive drives in that second half,

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.959
<v Speaker 1>and even one where Joe Burrow usually makes a play

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>to end the game on third and ten, he was

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>able to get out of the pocket. They made a

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>couple of guys lists and just hit the ground. But

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that that's you know, kudos to the secondary for the

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Ravens for plastering their guys and not letting somebody open

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 1>because usually in no situation, either runs for the first

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:02.919
<v Speaker 1>down or he finds somebody open for the first down,

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and there was nowhere for him to go with the

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>football and he just slid on the ground. So the

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>cock and keep running and ultimately they got that fourth

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and twenty stop at the end. But if if you're

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bills, right, if you don't turn the football over,

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you you probably have a lot of confidence going into

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>this game, just because you've seen that their offense has struggled,

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, more specifically in second halves in the last

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>two weeks. Now, granted, this Bills defense is a shell

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 1>of itself. It wasn't like it was last year. They're

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>giving it up. You talked about the scholar times with

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>thre for over two undred fifty years now. He didn't

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>have great completion percentage numbers, right, But his receivers also

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't help him out either. Guys were dropping wide open passes.

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>He was absolute dots dots in that game. And again

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 1>this Bills defense. There was times with you, Davis White

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and Terren Johnson made some good plays and one on

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>one coverage. But this is a different Bengals outfit, right

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 1>with Joe Burrow and those receivers. Now again with Waddle

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and Hill, yes you have to respect that, but with

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.879
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback you probably didn't respect it as much. To me,

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals want to win this game in Buffalo. They

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>have to run the ball. They're another team. Where did

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you forget you have a Pro Bowl, All Pro running back? Yeah,

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I know you've got the pass catchers, but it's like, dude,

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixing is a dude. Like he's a guy like

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you gotta get him involved. And then you talked about

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. Would a beat up offensive line, what

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 1>better way to get that offensive line going than to

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>run the football. Yeah, you know, Buffalo has been susceptible

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to teams running the ball with the Miami would run

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 1>the ball a little bit more, but they literally got

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>in the shootout with him and kept up with him.

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 1>So like it's it's it's weird because both of these teams,

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>like you used to have Bengals just putting up crazy

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.959
<v Speaker 1>points on offense, used to the Bills defense playing way better.

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>It's been opposite this year for both of those teams.

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>So dudes, nobody can argue that the Jets haven't closed

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the gap in the division. Yeah, for sure, the gap

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>is closed if you look at it. Let New England

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 1>off the hook twice in both of those games. Um,

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo Bills game, Josh Allen, the second one, I

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>mean they beat the Jets, eat them the first time.

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>The second one through for seven and literally they were

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>terrified to even kind of put the ball in his

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.240
<v Speaker 1>hand that second half. Michael Carter doesn't have that fumble.

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 1>We finished in the red zone. We sweep the Bills,

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>right and then we saw what happened with the Miami

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins put up forty on in the first time, but

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 1>the second time no offensive touchdown. I mean, it's it's

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 1>hard to win this league. You lose the game nine

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to six, essentially it was eleven and six because of

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the laterals and they got the safety at the end.

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you're your Jets defense, you give

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>up nine points, you're supposed to win a game like that.

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>So the gap is closed. I think what comes when

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>it comes down to again, he is what we kind

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of talked about throughout the show, finding the right guy

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>under center right. If you can get that done and

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.879
<v Speaker 1>you can have comparable football on offense, the Jets, there's

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>no reason why they couldn't make a serious one in

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs because anytime you have a top five championship

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>type defense, you have a chance in this league. So

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 1>final point, Daniel Jones his success this year. How much

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:02.760
<v Speaker 1>do you credit him person only for how he stuck

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to it throughout those early turbulent times, And how much

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>do you point to day Ball and say day Ball

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.959
<v Speaker 1>is a quarterback whisper, Because not only has he done

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>this with Daniel Jones, but Josh Allen was considered a very,

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>very raw talent when he came out of Wyoming, and

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he started to shape that guy and turn him into

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a superstar. So again it goes back to I want

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to ask you from a player's perspective, and who's now

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>in an analyst role, how much do you credit the

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>coaching and how much do you also put on the individual?

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Like you got to give Allen and Daniel Jones a

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of credit themselves, but day ball, he certainly has

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>worked the magic. Yeah, definitely. Uh, We'll start with Dable

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and then get to the playoffs. I mean, I mean,

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I think Brian Dable is a quarterback Risciper. Honestly, Josh

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Allen was the one quarterback in that draft class I

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>had the most concerns about, right, because he was just

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>so raw and he hadn't played the position that long,

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and then he was coming from Wyoming, and then you're

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>worried about some of his mechanics. Right, and now he's

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>one of the best quarterbacks in the league. And some

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of the things that give you pause is what we've

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>seen lately though from him as far as turning the

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>football over, the fumbles and things of that nature and

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>then um, Daniel Jones. Right. People literally really put this

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>dude on the scrap pile, right, and I loved him

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>coming out of Duke Right. I thought he was efficient quarterback.

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people didn't talk about his athletic ability,

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>but they realized how real it is these last few years,

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 1>more specifically this year. He's a guy that can keep

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 1>plays alive. But going to the players, right, they ball definitely.

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if either one of those guys have

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the career they have without Brian Dable, but to give

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>some credit to both of these players, right, because Daniel

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Jones starting with him, it's a one to thing not

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<v Speaker 1>to turn the football over, right. We saw that more

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<v Speaker 1>specifically in the Vikings game. If it wasn't there, Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Jones just took off and used his legs right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He was official with football. He threw some absolute darts

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<v Speaker 1>in that game. And guy's worst Scott wide open he

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<v Speaker 1>a Vikings past events is just atrocious. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>the game I think everybody wanted to see. Daniel Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he honestly, to be honest, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>made another twenty million dollars off of that game alone. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>going into this all season because he's proven that he

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<v Speaker 1>was a guy that was taking in the top five

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<v Speaker 1>for a reason. Right with Daniel Jones, you can win

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<v Speaker 1>football games. And let's not forget the supporting cast. He's

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<v Speaker 1>doing it with e A Like. These aren't some name guys.

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<v Speaker 1>These are guys. Isaiah Hodgens was a guy that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially released from the Buffalo Bills because they are

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<v Speaker 1>too deep a receiver. But that's the league, e A. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many Isaiah Hodgens on every other team. Just

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<v Speaker 1>depends on what team you're on. If anohing they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a Garrett Wilson there, they don't have a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a Dig's. You know, they got Josh Allenson help. They

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<v Speaker 1>got him a step one digs don't have a game

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<v Speaker 1>Davis like, and he's able to go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>be efficient with the football. They run the ball well.

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<v Speaker 1>But funny thing is they flipped the scripts last week.

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<v Speaker 1>They passed the ball to run it usually. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>se Kwan's getting twenty take and five Gary z a

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<v Speaker 1>five like. And they beat the brakes other bikes. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the score isn't a digative of that, but they beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Brakes off the Minnesota Vikings. Right, they won the

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 1>physical battle of the line of scrimmage. Dan Jones really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to on offense. They could not stop him at all,

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<v Speaker 1>no defense. Link Martindale dined up from dialed Up from

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<v Speaker 1>Timely blitz Is and those guys competed and they got

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<v Speaker 1>after Kirk Cousins. So you have to credit day on

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<v Speaker 1>Jones because it's a want to thing to fix your

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<v Speaker 1>problems as far as turning the football over right, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a want to thing as far as being able

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<v Speaker 1>to secure the football, because it wasn't just throwing picks

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<v Speaker 1>for him, it was fumbling the ball as well to

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<v Speaker 1>e a. And he's on a significant, significantly better job

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<v Speaker 1>of protecting the football, which is the number one thing

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do as a quarterback. Yeah, uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be. It's so interesting to watch not only how

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<v Speaker 1>these playoffs unfold, but for the Jets. Who is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be that new offensive leader, the captain and the ship

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<v Speaker 1>And then also where's Zack Wilson is that when he

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<v Speaker 1>comes back and starts learning a new system and then

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<v Speaker 1>potentially what the Jets do here in the off season

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<v Speaker 1>with possibly a veteran quarterback, But we got a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time before that. All starts breaking mid March

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be interesting here. As always, Jets have

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a lot less holes, but they got to fill

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<v Speaker 1>that offensive coordinator vacancy and then they got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out the missing link, and that is the quarterback position. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>had so much fun catching up with you, man, I

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