WEBVTT - Selects: Composting: Nature's Most Interesting Process 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.640 M Hey, everybody, it's Josh and for this week's select, 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:07.160 I picked our episode on composting. You'll hear Chuck and 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:12.399 Me get super jazzed about earth science, gardening, invertebrates, all 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.920 of our favorite things. I hope you enjoy it, and 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.960 I hope it inspires you to start composting, or at 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:27.000 least start pocket mulching. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:36.040 a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:40.879 the podcast. I'm Josh, the man Clark. There's Charles w 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.120 Chuck Bryant, and I think I neglected to say last 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:49.240 you did. Guest producer Noel is with us. That's right. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.480 So if you listen to the Shroud of Turn episode 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.400 and you're like, man, that sounds great. Yeah, that was anual. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:01.680 Thanks Noel. Uh this show today, I've been replaying my 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.440 one of my favorite Simpsons jokes ever over my head. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.240 I laughed already just hearing. It was from the one 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.120 of the Halloween episodes when um they did the Nightmare 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:17.360 on Elm Street Riff. There's old old ones Um where 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:23.960 groundskeeper Willie was Freddy Krueger and he turned into a 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.400 I think like a shredder or a tractor or something 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:33.080 and ran over people or something and said, uh, when 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.160 you when you had done, when I'm done, that they're 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.880 going to need to do a comb post bordered them. 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.360 Oh wow, that is a bad joke. Yeah, it was 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.679 really good, one of the I mean, the Simpsons didn't 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.640 get too funny, but that was that was a good one. Well, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.440 anything goes on a treehouse of horror, you know, agreed, 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.160 So you know, um, there's a bunch of cities that 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:58.120 have kind of gotten woke to the idea that we 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:03.160 should be recyce cleaner, composting our food. Did you know that? Sure? 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:08.480 I saw a stat said something like of food gets wasted. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.400 But I got suspicious because I also saw that of 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:18.840 the um stuff that goes to municipal landfills or trash 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:23.959 is food waste, which doesn't necessarily mean it's wasted food, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.639 because I don't think you would count like a banana 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:32.200 peal as food waste as wasted food because the box. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.480 They're not counting food packaging food no, but I think 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.640 they're counting everything that has to do with food that 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:43.920 could conceivably be eaten as wasted food, which is not 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.440 the same as food waste. The point is the legitimate 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.200 stat that I saw just about everywhere is that if 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.919 you took all the garbage that the United States throws 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.160 away into a landfill, that is food waste. And I'm 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.959 sure some of it is the whole cake, some complete 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.160 more on through a whole cake away for no good reason. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.800 Well that's actually a pretty good reason. But you know 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.640 what I'm saying, um of all that trash is food. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.720 The problem is you might say, well, who cares trash? 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.680 It decomposes. That's great, that's true. It does decompose. But 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.160 in the landfills that the United States uses, we make 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.680 sure they're anaerobic. Oxygen doesn't get down there, so a 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:29.679 whole different decomposition process takes place. And in a landfill, 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:35.320 in anaerobic decomposition, methane is produced. And methane is bad news. 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:41.600 Methane is something on the order of seventy worse. I know, 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.200 there's a much more scientific way to put it, but 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:49.560 it's seventy batter than carbon dioxide as far as greenhouse 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:55.080 gases go, more potent, how about that? Okay, so you 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.920 don't want methane. If you have to choose between methane 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.600 and carbon dioxide, you want to go with car monoxide. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.400 And it just so happens that if you compost food waste, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.280 mostly carbon dioxide is produced methanes not so if you're 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.920 diverting this food waste from the landfill. There's a whole 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.760 bunch of different stuff you're doing. Number One, you're saving 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:18.560 all that the space for actual trash, So you're extending 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.800 the life of your land, sir. You're keeping all that 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.240 methane from being produced. And as if it couldn't get 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:30.279 any better, you are creating an amazing fertilizer that you 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:34.400 can use to grow. You could grow a tree out 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:39.039 of a shoe. This fertilizer is so good the old 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.119 shoe tree. Sure, uh, yeah, it's um. We've danced around 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.680 this a lot. We well, you just referenced are and 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.520 I don't like the tutor on horns a lot, but 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.920 that landfills episode was great landfills And don't forget the 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:57.279 plasma incinerator one. Yeah, basically any of our waste management 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:01.040 ones are yeah what else where think grilla gardening. We 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.480 touched on this sum and um a couple of others. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:08.800 We've mentioned composting and to the extent where I thought 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.159 we had done one on composting, but we had not 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.760 until about five and a half minutes ago, UM. And 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.320 that's a guess. So if you're right in say it 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:22.280 like it was eight minutes, chuck, you're grounded. So, like 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.080 you mentioned, we didn't. I don't think these numbers are 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.039 accurate anymore. But we generate let's just say, a lot 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.159 of millions of tons, hundreds of millions of tons of trash, 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:37.000 and about twenty five of that is recovered through recycling, 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:42.200 which includes composting, which is good. But that number, if 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.719 it was seventy, would be amazing. Does that include composting? 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:50.320 That that recycling number? Yeah, okay, yeah, fib seventy would 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.240 be great? Ye, why not let's shoot for ninety. Well, 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.280 supposedly Seattle itself, UM has a goal of something like 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.560 six seventy of all of its trash being recycled by 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.440 the end of the year. Of course they do, because 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.800 Seattle does it right, and they actually have compulsory mandatory 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.640 composting now, like you have to compost if you live 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.520 in the city of Seattle. I don't know I live there, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.640 I don't know, I don't know. I asked myself that 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.160 a lot you know, Emily and I went for our 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.880 two shows ago on that lovely spring weekend was gorgeous, 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.600 and we we stayed extra in Seattle and after we 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.040 were like, we're moving here. That's it. It's a great town. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.360 I've said it before on the show Dogs and Bars. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:36.000 That was all it took, uh, Dog bar tenders, but 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.960 again dog explain poker. Uh again, it's easy to fall 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.520 in love a Seattle on a perfect weekend in April. Yeah, 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.800 I hear it rains there a lot, though I'd still 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.960 live there. It's a great place. And you know what, 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.839 you may see us again this year's Seattle tease tease. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.880 It's such a tease, all right. So composting is great 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.120 for a thousand reasons, but one, uh, first and foremost 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.640 is that it's it's not hard to do and it's 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:07.240 not expensive to do if you just want to be uh. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.160 And there are many different levels of composting, from big 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:15.240 city programs to the home farmer that takes it super seriously, 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.600 to just if you just want to lessen the impact 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.280 a little bit on your landfill, your local landfill, feel 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.880 like you're doing the right thing and get a little 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:29.560 bit of nutrient rich goodness fertilizer to use. You can 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.120 have it just a little, small, little composting operation going 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.160 on at your house. Yeah, this is all. This is 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.720 all you need organic waste. And we don't even mean 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.200 something that's like organic. We mean like organic, meaning it's 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.960 composed mostly a carbon. It was once alive at one point, right, Yeah, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.920 and I made a poopy noise, which you can't use poops. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.840 So no, that's night soil. It's the opposite of what 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:59.320 I should have done. Uh, what's a banana sound? That's 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:04.600 a bananas on. You need soil, you need water, need 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.280 air or oxygen. Right, So the organic waste is the 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.480 stuff you're gonna have broken down, which in this case, 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.560 in the case of a compost pile, is food the 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.240 soil well partially sure, but no, no, it's food for 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.680 the things that in the soil. Right, it's an energy 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.000 source and nutrient source for what's in the soil. So 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:27.680 you add soil. When you're adding soil, you're basically adding 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:32.000 starter culture to the compost. What you're doing is grabbing 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.760 microbes from say, in your yard and putting them on 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:40.880 the compost pile and say dinners on boys. Yes, but 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:42.880 you don't want to poop in it. You need a 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:44.760 little bit of water, like you said, to keep it moist, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.400 but you don't want to keep it over wet because 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:51.559 microbes like slightly moist soil and then air because again 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.240 again this is really really important. You can let your 0:08:54.240 --> 0:09:00.720 compost pile um degrade anaerobically, but it's gonna douce methane, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.600 which is bad for the for the environment, bad for 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.640 your neighbors, bad for your neighbors, bad for you. It's 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.679 gonna stink, it might blow up, who knows. You don't 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.640 want to smoke near a what's called a passive compost pile. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.480 So you want to just introduce oxygen and all this 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.720 sounds very complicated, it's not. It's hitting it with your hose. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.080 It's um and by that I mean spraying water on 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.520 it with your hose. Just realized you can with your 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.679 host to um. It's like turning it over right the 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.280 pitchfork to add oxygen. It's as simple as that. Yeah, 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.000 it's really easy. UM. So what you're gonna end up 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.280 with the end, like we said, is is really fertilizer. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:41.200 But it's a it's called humus. Don't call it hummus, No, 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:45.079 that's different. Has has two limbs, right, Uh, this is 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:49.079 just one m and um. Those little microorganisms in there, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:50.920 they're gonna break this stuff down. They're gonna eat it, 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.760 they're gonna poop it out, and they're gonna multiply and 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.960 there's gonna be we'll talk about the critters a little 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.760 more later, but they're gonna be different critters along the 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.920 way that eat those critters than critters to eat those critters. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.200 And it's gonna get really hot up in there. It 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.080 might steam, then it's gonna cool back down. It's gonna 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.760 get smaller, and it's just like this little micro environment. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.480 It is really really neat. There's actually a food web 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.000 in there. There's a lot of physics and chemistry that's 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.640 going on. It's it is very neat. I'm fascinated by 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:25.000 it too. But the upshot of composting is that you're 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:29.280 taking something and it's being broken down into its constituent 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.640 parts so that it can be reused by plants and 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.520 the whole circle of life can start over again. Yeah, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:40.920 you're sort of just accelerating the natural process of like rot, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.720 you're optimizing it. Yeah, Like you mentioned a passive composter, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:50.600 which is to say, you know, lazy hippies, you could 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.120 you could just throw all that junk out of your 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.640 window if you wanted, in a big pile and throw 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.880 your some grass clippings on and throw throw your your 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.160 fall leaves on there. Just leave it there, and that 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:08.800 thing will eventually compost itself. Well again, it'll produce methane, 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.160 you'll blow up, or you can turn you know, you 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.439 can turn it every now and then and maybe avoid that. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:18.439 But no, I think that makes it an active pile. Well, uh, 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.000 slightly active pile then. I don't mean like every other 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.160 day just to avoid methane maybe, but that would still 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.440 technically be an active pile, would be a poorly managed 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:35.559 active pile. Slightly active, poorly managed. So I'm serious, that's 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.120 what they call it. I know, Okay, I just we'd 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.439 like to make up our own names for things. I 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.440 didn't know you were going to cease that and oh 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.040 it was in year nine. I gotta sorry. We'll call 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.679 that the dooby pile. Okay, you know it's called active management. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.200 I just wanted to make sure that we got it 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.160 on the record. So, uh, the big goal here is 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.480 to reduce your waste, they say in this article ultimately 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.840 will save you tax money because you're landfill, won't I 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.520 thought that was hilarious. Yeah, I mean, don't count on 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.360 seeing any any tax breaks coming anytime soon. But you 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.960 like that got William F. Buckley's attention. Probably, So, so 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:13.480 how do you how do you do this? Let's say 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.920 you want to start composting. There's a one, two, three, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:21.800 five step process to get this thing going. Okay, well, 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.840 let's talk about them. The first thing you want to 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.080 do is just pick out the place you want to 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.760 do it, all right, because it's you know, it's a 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:33.280 bit of a mess. It's it doesn't have to be necessarily, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.640 but it depending on your neighbors, they might be like, well, great, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:42.000 I'm glad you started an unsightly pile of kitchen rubbish 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.480 in food waste that I can see from my deck. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.319 Thanks a lot for that. So that's something you want 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.079 to keep in consideration. Apparently, even if you do have 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:56.520 a very well managed active pile. Um, what would you 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.800 call that? I'm not making it funny name anymore. Then 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.600 we're jokes. I've ruined it. Um, it's still it's still 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.719 may stink here there. So you want to kind of 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.240 away from the house, but not so far away that 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.599 if you're feeling lazy, you're not gonna go out and 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.440 tend to it on a daily or every other day 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.560 le basis. Yeah. And if you have that much land 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.480 that you have a compost pile a mile from your house, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:27.400 good for you. You got some acreage. Uh. There might 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.840 be some local rules, either from your h o A 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.880 heaven forbid if you have to belong to one of those, 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:38.440 or maybe just your municipality might have rules and regulations. Yeah, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.000 to check with them first. That's what everyone does. Be 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.440 for they started compost Piley, go down to city hall 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.400 and say what tell me even the rules and regulations 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.840 surrounding composting in my yard? And I think the first 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.559 thing everyone does is start throwing their eggshells out the window. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.760 That's how it always starts. It's like I'm tired of 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:59.080 these things being in my trash than Uh. They recommend 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.720 down when because like you said, it might stink a bit. Uh. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.040 Sun it's good in a way, but you don't want 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.880 it baking in the sun all day, no, because it 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.720 will dry it out. Remember, you want it to be 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.240 kind of moist, and the sunlight can actually dry it out, 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.120 so you want Apparently the best place to put it 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.120 is under a deciduous tree. Good spot. Yeah, because in 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.880 the in the winter time there's no leaves on the tree, 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.320 so the sun is gonna keep it warm when it's cold. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.280 But during summer it's going to be shaded by the tree, 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.680 so it won't dry out. It's just perfect. It is 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:35.160 deciduous tree equals love. Uh. Wind is good to provide 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.280 a little air, but you don't want it blowing scattering 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.200 the stuff all over the place, drying it out again. 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.800 No good? What else drainage? Don't start one in that 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.720 old baby pool that you don't want to throw out, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.640 especially if your baby's in there. Uh. Yeah, you want 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.800 good drainage. Like generally you build either build a bin. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.240 We'll talk about this stuff actually right now. But it's 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:02.760 off the ground. Sure, it's on legs. Yeah, although you 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.440 can't have a pile, but um, you know generally you 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:07.960 want to you want to build a bin or buy 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.480 a bin, right, and those things sit off the ground 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:17.080 right because of drainage. That's part of it for sure. Yeah. Um. 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.600 You also want dirt rather than say like a concrete 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.400 pad or something like that. Yeah, I don't come post 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.680 in your driver, Right, it's not a good idea. Um. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.880 As far as structures go, you can, like you said, 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.720 you can go buy one. They're not very expensive from 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.400 what I understand, right, it depends on the size. You 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.960 can also say go buy some cinder blocks and build 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.520 something like that. Sure, um, But basically you can cut 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:46.680 compost structures into two. There's a single bin and there's 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:50.680 a three bin system. So in the single bin system, 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.000 you put new stuff on top new binan appeals. This 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.240 is what I think of when I think composting. You know, 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.600 banana peles um. You put new stuff on top, and 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.240 then you take a pitchfork or shovel or something like 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.640 that and you work, you work it in to the compost. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.840 And at the bottom of this structure, say it's open 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:15.160 when you're walking up to it, the the finished compost 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.840 will accumulate at the bottom. And the reason it accumulates 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.960 at the bottom because it's of a finer, finer grain 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.400 um And that's it. Single bin new stuff at the top, 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.000 easy peasy, stuff that's in process in the middle, stuff 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.400 that's finished in the bottom, and it will just naturally 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.880 kind of separate like that. Yeah, And when we're talking 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.920 structure like that, if you want to build one, you know, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.160 build a wood frame and it's like got chicken wire 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.480 walls and a chicken wire bottom, and that gives you 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.080 the air. And if you've got something that collected underneath, 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.600 it's gonna fall, you know when it's small enough. Uh, 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.360 some other stuff might fall. You may need to add 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.880 it back in. But with the three bend system, you've got, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.880 well you've got three bends, you've got the starter stuff, 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.400 you've got the once it starts to break down a 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.680 little stuff, and then you have the finished product. And 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:06.359 you have to actively manage that system. Yeah, that system 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.560 sounds unnecessarily difficult, kind of like it. Oh you're a 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.199 three bing guy. Well, we're about to get into this 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.879 for real. We've been um lazily composting for a while, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.200 but um, we're doing our whole backyard, Like we're getting 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.840 rid of our grass. Basically, what are you gonna do 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:32.040 compost mulch in beds and plants and herbs and cacti 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.600 in and all that. Uh no cacti, but we do 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.760 have a palm tree. We've had that forever though. Um, yeah, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.000 just getting rid of the grass. Basically because it takes 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:45.920 up so much water. Just it's just it's not good 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.400 grass to begin with, and I'm not the best about 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.320 cutting it. Lawmars are terrible. Plus you don't water enough. 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.760 You never let a quarter inch of water accumulating exactly. Yeah, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.640 just and you know it'll it'll look nicer. So part 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.800 of this in this company that's doing it is it's 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.280 not just a landscaping company there. There are a bunch 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.760 of hippies. So they're they're designing it in such a 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.200 way that that feeds itself. And part of that is 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:17.600 composting anyway, long long way of saying, we're gonna start, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.560 like for real composting very shortly. And you're going with 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.480 the three bin structure. I don't know, I think I'm 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:28.280 gonna build it. It's well, it's the structure Emily tells 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.160 me to build. It's the easiest way to say it. Yeah. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:33.800 But if you buy one, like you were saying, um, 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.960 there's all different kinds just you know, look look it 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.240 up online or go to a hardware store, and you 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.040 know many of them will look like a big barrel 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.760 on legs and it literally turns like has a crank 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.040 on it. To where you can turn this thing in 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.680 circles so you don't have to use a pitchfork at all. 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.160 You don't have to muss your hands or your hair. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:19:00.159 It's like a bingo, yes, spinner, but with banana pi. 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.399 Have you ever played bingo, like legit bingo in a 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:07.120 room h with hundreds of people, not hundreds, well more 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.639 than like you and you me, yes, like a bingo parlor? 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.359 Is that what they're called. I've actually gone to um 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.920 a couple of like uh senior retirement homes and helped 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:24.080 out with bingo and that's a pretty pretty cool experience actually, 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.320 because do you run the bingo? It's kind unqualified to 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.240 run the bingo? Right, just walk around and point out 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.960 if somebody missed one that they you know that was 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.000 called that kind of thing, but did you want to 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.080 talk about taking it seriously? Oh my god? And then 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.960 you have to be a certified bingo master to run 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:45.240 the show. Yeah, and they'll like tell you to hurry 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.919 up and like shout if you're if you're not like 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.200 loud enough for fast enough, for going too fast. Like 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.440 so the point is not to have fun, you know, 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.520 The point is to win. What do they win? The prizes. Yeah, 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.600 nothing much usually, I mean, but you can I think 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.439 like you can play bingo and casinos for thousands and 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.080 thousands of dollars usually at old folks humes. They don't, 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.600 you know, sure there's not thousands of dollar prizes like 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.000 honey buns and cigarettes, right right exactly? All right, Well 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.240 let's take a break here after we have talked structure 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.159 and uh, we'll talk a little bit about what you 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:21.480 want what kind of junk you want to throw in 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:45.720 that pile? All right, chuck, So we're talking what you 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.359 want to throw on the pile. Right, you got your 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:52.000 bin either a triple three banger cat, your site or single. 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.120 You got your site. You bribed your neighbor to look 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:59.480 the other way, right exactly. You bought a goat. Oh man, 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.560 talking about green living. My neighbor has goats, now, like 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.240 five of them. Are they a loud No? Oh, that's great. 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:07.960 Everyone's a while to hear them. But it's a joy 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.840 to hear. So it's not like it's not like a rooster. 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:16.240 Do you wake up and look out and say morning satan. No, Well, 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:18.000 goats one of my favorites, so it's kind of nice 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.320 to have them around the baby goats or adult coat. No, 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.399 they're big ones. I mean she got them to maintain 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.679 the property because she was started cutting. I guess she 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.920 didn't want a zero escape it, so she bought goats. Anyway, 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:34.040 it's it's awesome. Uh, kitchen waiste Josh, that's what you 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.000 want to throw in there? Well? Yeah, that's the first one. 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.480 That's the one that everybody says. That's why you compost, right, Yeah, 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:44.119 and yeah, banana peals everybody knows that. But did you 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.920 also know you can compost apple cores in orange rines? 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.320 You can also eat apple cores. Yeah. You you believe 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.200 there is no such thing as a core, right that 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:57.320 because there's not um seeing people who leave their apple 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.959 course left over. They can compost those things. Those are 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.480 the easy ones. You can also do coffee grounds. Yeah, 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:07.159 that's a good one. Paper filters through that filter and 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.840 all in there. Okay, so let's just say a maybe 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.080 a whole pizza to myself. I've got a couple of 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:17.760 napkins wadded up. What do I do with those? Chuck? Uh? 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:21.040 I think you can throw those napkins in there, Josh, 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:26.080 isn't that crazy? It is crazy? Newspaper? Yeah, corn cobs. 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:27.919 If you still read a newspaper, if you get your 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:37.640 news on the internet, throw your laptop in there. Watermelon rhymes, yeah, seeds, leaves, Uh, 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.080 you know the butt end of the asparagus that no 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:43.560 one cooks, but that junk in there. Um. You can 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:47.120 also do yard waste too, sure. Right, So you've got 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.360 grass clippings, which we'll talk about in a second. We've 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:51.840 got a couple of warnings as far as grass clippings goes, 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:55.359 not too much. Um, but like, let's say you're raking 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.280 leaves or something like that, throw some leaves on there. Yeah, 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:00.919 good crunchy brown ones. And you can also throw like, 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:05.000 um trimmings from your like shrubs if you trim your 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:10.479 woody shrubs. Um. The key here is this chuck. You 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:15.680 want to cut all this stuff up in small bits. Yeah, 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:18.160 don't throw a whole corn cob in there. You can 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.400 know your compost pile. Just throw it right back out. Yeah, 0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.760 it'll just spit it right back out right, very funny. 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.280 It'll make a burping noise. Uh. They say to shred 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.560 the corn cob. I don't have a corn cobs shredder. 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:33.680 I don't either. Um, I've never thought about that I 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.919 wouldn't waste like my blender blade on chopping up corn cops. 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.160 I think the point is that's breaking into a little pieces. 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.960 Sure you can break it into little pieces though, Yeah, 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.240 you probably have a corn cob up. Yeah, and you 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:50.560 can also, like you can take all this stuff and 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.040