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Speaker 1: M Hey, everybody, it's Josh and for this week's select,

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Speaker 1: I picked our episode on composting. You'll hear Chuck and

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Speaker 1: Me get super jazzed about earth science, gardening, invertebrates, all

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Speaker 1: of our favorite things. I hope you enjoy it, and

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Speaker 1: I hope it inspires you to start composting, or at

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Speaker 1: least start pocket mulching. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know,

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Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh, the man Clark. There's Charles w

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, and I think I neglected to say last

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Speaker 1: you did. Guest producer Noel is with us. That's right.

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Speaker 1: So if you listen to the Shroud of Turn episode

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Speaker 1: and you're like, man, that sounds great. Yeah, that was anual.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Noel. Uh this show today, I've been replaying my

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite Simpsons jokes ever over my head.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that is a bad joke. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: really good, one of the I mean, the Simpsons didn't

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Speaker 1: anything goes on a treehouse of horror, you know, agreed,

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Speaker 1: So you know, um, there's a bunch of cities that

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Speaker 1: should be recyce cleaner, composting our food. Did you know that? Sure?

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Speaker 1: I saw a stat said something like of food gets wasted.

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Speaker 1: They're not counting food packaging food no, but I think

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Speaker 1: could conceivably be eaten as wasted food, which is not

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Speaker 1: more on through a whole cake away for no good reason.

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Speaker 1: Well that's actually a pretty good reason. But you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, um of all that trash is food.

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Speaker 1: The problem is you might say, well, who cares trash?

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Speaker 1: It decomposes. That's great, that's true. It does decompose. But

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Speaker 1: in the landfills that the United States uses, we make

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Speaker 1: whole different decomposition process takes place. And in a landfill,

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Speaker 1: in anaerobic decomposition, methane is produced. And methane is bad news.

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Speaker 1: And it just so happens that if you compost food waste,

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Speaker 1: It's such a tease, all right. So composting is great

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Speaker 1: he'd just be like, okay, well, you want to take

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00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: those chunks and you want to put him into a

421
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: paper towel, and then you want to fold that up,

422
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: and then you put that into some aluminum fold. You

423
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: fold that up, and you put that into paper bag

424
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: and you roll up and then you staple it and

425
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: then you throw it away. Boy man, what a price

426
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: that was. Oh, it still makes me sad. So you

427
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: mentioned newspaper earlier. Um, if you live near the ocean

428
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: and you've got your hands on some seaweed or some kelp,

429
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: you can rinse that stuff off so you don't want

430
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: all that salt content in there. But it's really good

431
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: and nutrient rich if you rent that off and put

432
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: it in your compost pile. And it's also good for

433
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: you to eat too. I know I sound nuts, but

434
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: just eat that stuff. What do you mean? Yeah, sawdust?

435
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: Do you don't eat that? No? But like I'm building

436
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: my compost, ben, I can put that salve dust back

437
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: in it. How about that? Yeah? Pretty neat circle of life. Baby,

438
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: what should not you compost night soil, which is poopy soil?

439
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: Cat you don't go take a big dump post dump post.

440
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: I know you want to know. That's not good. UM

441
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: disease garden plants, that's a big one. Some of this

442
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: stuff though, as we'll find, it doesn't quite make sense.

443
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: But it's just good to air on the side of

444
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: um garbage in, garbage out, except with compost. If you

445
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: put garbage garbage in, then it's going to be really bad.

446
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: If you put good, healthy garbage in, it's going to

447
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: come out is quite good. So you don't want to

448
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: put any disease plants in there. UM Invasive weeds are

449
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: another one too, Yeah, but it says you can also

450
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: put weeds in there, so I guess you just need

451
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: to figure out which ones are the bad ones. Yeah,

452
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: So this specifically calls out buttercups, morning glory, and quack grass.

453
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm quite sure that there's plenty of seeds that wouldn't

454
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: survive the composting process, but apparently these two. So stay

455
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: away from the quack grass. That was I think that

456
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: was the big mantra woodstock. It's a gateway drug don't

457
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: have the yellow sunshine or the quack grass. It was

458
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: the brown the browns, which I mean, who wants brown acid?

459
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: You know? And what about uh, you're talking about kitchen stuff?

460
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: What about meat and dairy? Okay, that's that's controversial. It

461
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: is because Emily had taken classes and they were like, no,

462
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: don't use any of that. That's like an animal cells

463
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: and and fats in particular, they putrefy, they don't decompose,

464
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: and puture faction makes some stinky stuff, and I think

465
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: you can also generate a lot of disease bearing pathogens.

466
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: So I was surprised to see this article say yeah,

467
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: put it in there. Well, and they kind of said

468
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: this article if you if you're really heavily managing this thing,

469
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: you can do it. But I don't know. I've just

470
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: heard don't They said turn it into a slurry, which

471
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: I don't want to see freud and riches blender at

472
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: home with corn cob leavings on it. But um, he's

473
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: a whip it up into a slurry. And as long

474
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: as it's a good, hot, actively managed pile, it'll it

475
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: won't be a problem. I'm gonna go ahead and say

476
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: I don't think you should do that. I don't know

477
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: what to do with the animal leavings, but I don't

478
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: think you should compost it. All right, Uh, it might

479
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: make sense to you to say, Hey, I have an

480
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: outdoor fire pit. I bet that would be great in

481
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: my compost. Her incorrect, Although this specifically says charcoal ashes.

482
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: I think that's any kind of charred ashes. Yeah, like

483
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: burnt wood is called charcoal. So are you sure? Because

484
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: I know what I know what you just said was true.

485
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: But supposedly the entire Amazon Basin, and I learned this

486
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: from the Greatest Book of All Time by Charles C. Mann,

487
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: the entire Amazon Basin was a managed forest um that

488
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: the indigenous people's down there had made completely fertile and

489
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: fikoned by instead of slash and burn, they were using

490
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 1: slash and char techniques, and there was way more carbon

491
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: locked into the charred tree stumps and there was the ashes,

492
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: so it became more fertile. So I have a question

493
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: about that one. You know, I'm gonna back off of

494
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: my determined stance because I don't know it would make

495
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: sense if it was coal, like if it's like charcoal briquettes,

496
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: because they have cement and all sorts of chemicals and

497
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: junk in them. But if it's charred wood or would ash,

498
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: I wonder. All right, well, somebody let us know, CHARLC.

499
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: Man tell us the pesticide treated plants. You you know,

500
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: you know my stands on pesticides period. Don't use them.

501
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: But if you do, definitely don't put that stuff in there.

502
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Because your whole thing here is you want to you

503
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: want to more or less organic compost pile right in

504
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: the end, and so one of the things that people

505
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: love about composted is it actually is organic. And we're

506
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: going to explain how. I didn't know this until um

507
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: we did this research, but we'll explain how because we're

508
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: going to go through the process that your compost pile undergoes.

509
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: Right after this. Yeah, all right, I did something we

510
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: rarely do, which is looks something up as we're podcasting,

511
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: because it just sounded lazy to be like, oh, we

512
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: don't know this one. Um gardens alive dot com says,

513
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: um wood ashes are so strongly alkaline that it doesn't

514
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: take a lot to upset the balance in the pile

515
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: and stop the processing. You can add a very small

516
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: amount of wood ash from like your fireplace or a

517
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: woodburning stove. Um, it apparently not much, so I think,

518
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, like you're kind of right, and then it's

519
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: it's not completely for boating, right, But it sounds like

520
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: too much is not a good thing. I think that's

521
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: what freud And was just saying, like, don't even mess

522
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: with it. Put an animal fasts instead. Well, and that's

523
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: what the person from Gardens Alive was saying this, like

524
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: it's so little that it's not really going to make

525
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: a difference. And if you're trying to get rid of

526
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: it in a different way, she's like, it's not really

527
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna matter. But the but it raises a great question, Chuck,

528
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: why in the name of all things holy would it

529
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: matter what the alkalinity is of your compost pile. And

530
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Because it's a chemistry experiment. It

531
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: is it's a it's a chemistry experiment. It's also a

532
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: biological experiment. You have a microcosm growing there, and there's

533
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: actually really easy things you can do to optimize this

534
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: and basically create a Zanna Do paradise for the the

535
00:31:54,920 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: microbes and primary and secondary and tertiary um consumers of

536
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: this stuff that you're putting in there to break down

537
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: so that they just have the greatest life that any

538
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: invertebrate or microbe ever had. All right, should we talk

539
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: chemistry a bit then come back to just the management

540
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: and stuff. All right, what you're really talking about here

541
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: for an ideal composting scene, you need a disco ball,

542
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: and you need a proper uh C in ratio, which

543
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: is carbon to nitrogen ratio. And depending on how walky

544
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: you want to get, if you want to start measuring things,

545
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: you can do that. But from what I gather, just

546
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: try and do a lot to a little about thirty

547
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: to one carbon to nitrogen and and eyeball it. When

548
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: the rule of thumb is this, if it's green and

549
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: um recently deceased, and by green like a nice bananappeal

550
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: would qualify as this right is appliable and green or

551
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, again recently deceased, it is um high in nitrogen.

552
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: If it's brown and dried, it's high in carbon. So

553
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: you want to actually when you're adding the compost, you

554
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: want to just kind of layer this stuff in about

555
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: those ratios thirty to one. And there's actually tables like

556
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: if you're a big time into this. There are tables

557
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: out there that tell you just about exactly the carbon

558
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: and nitrogen ratio in each individual thing. But what we

559
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: said earlier, you want to avoid grass clippings. This is why,

560
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: because they're too high in nitrogen. And what happens when

561
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: you have too much nitrogen it's bad, right, It makes

562
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: your pile stinky. Yeah, that's is that where the methane

563
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: starts creeping in that Actually it leads to ammonia gas. Right.

564
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: But you also don't want too much carbon either, chuck,

565
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: because so you carbon and nitrogen. Carbon is like the

566
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: building block and it's an energy source for these micro

567
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: Nitrogen is um essential to their growth and their metabolic

568
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: activity as well. But when they have this in these concentrations,

569
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: that's when they flourish. Yeah. And the other problem with

570
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: carbon two is it just it breaks down so slowly. Um. Well,

571
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: it depends on the source. Yeah that's true. But generally

572
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the carbon sources like newspaper and corn

573
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: cobs and stuff like that, it's just a much slower process, right. Right,

574
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: So like they have um much tougher uh structural support

575
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: in their cells, have structural integrity exactly. Um, they need

576
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: to have a good saying that rhymes. If it's yellow,

577
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: let it mellow, If it's brown, flush it down. Um,

578
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: I thought you were heading towards that. I was just

579
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: kind of like on the edge of my seat, like

580
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: if it's greens brown. Maybe maybe there is one that

581
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: we don't know, or maybe someone can write one like

582
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: a creative listener. I would love to hear it. I'll

583
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: bet we get a bunch of those. All right, oxygen

584
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: if you're talking uh, if we're talking ratios, and again,

585
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: you can walk out as much as possible. But the

586
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: good news is about your compost piles. It's not like

587
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: it needs to be like the oxygen that you need

588
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: walking around to breathe, which is in the atmosphere. Yeah,

589
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: that's what we have going on. It can get by

590
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: these aerobic microbes as low as five percent. Yeah, that's

591
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: cutting it close. That's getting it close. They say, try

592
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: to hover somewhere around ten or up. How do you

593
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: measure that? You don't? You just airate your pile and

594
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: it's fine by either turning it or you can do

595
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: hold PVC. And I guess that brings us kind of

596
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: to the management part um. You don't just sit there

597
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: unless you want to have a totally passive pile, and

598
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: who wants that? You have to manage this thing either

599
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: every day or every other day. Turn it, like we're saying,

600
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: either with the little crank if you've got a handy

601
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: little barrel unit, or with a pitch fork or they

602
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: call it a composting fork in here. That's pretty fancy.

603
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Probably the same thing. And it's the same thing as

604
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: a pitchfork, except like fifty dollars more. Uh, you want

605
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: to water it some, but again, um, do you want

606
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: to give watering advice? You don't want it for me.

607
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: You don't want it to be soaking wet. No, you

608
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: want to be moist. Damp. People hate that word, so

609
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: we'll say damp um. And again I mentioned the perforated

610
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: PVC pipes that can help. Uh. It says you can

611
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,479
Speaker 1: avoid turning it by having those pipes. I would still

612
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: turn it. I would too, just to mix it up right. Yeah,

613
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: but putting PBC pipes throughout your pile would make it

614
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: really difficult to turn. So well, you can pull them out,

615
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: I guess you could, you know, but getting them back

616
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: into real pain. You can stick him back in another

617
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: way to get to introduce oxygen is earthworms. Oh man,

618
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: this is where I go crazy. Oh yeah, we have

619
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: a lot of worms on our property. And just because

620
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of worms in Georgia. Yeah, um, we

621
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: did a great episode on earthworms, remember, Yeah, And every

622
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: time I find them, Um, I picked them up. I

623
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: show them to Emily and she immediately says, throw it

624
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: in the garden, you know. And that's because we weren't

625
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: composting heavily. Now it's gonna be thrown in the compost pile.

626
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: But these guys are great because they naturally and may

627
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: do a lot of things, but one of the things

628
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: they do is naturally aerate by just tunneling through that stuff. Yeah.

629
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: So earthworms and then worms in general are probably the

630
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: most important non microscopic resident in your compost pile. Yeah,

631
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: because they do so much. So worms and especially earthworms

632
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: and most types of nematodes um. They actually go in

633
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: and like eat a lot of the stuff that's in

634
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: the compost pile, a lot of the food waste, right

635
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: or organic waste, and in doing so they break it down,

636
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: and as they break it down, they make it easier

637
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: for the microbes to digest themselves. Should we start with

638
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: the microbes. Okay. So again this com postpile. When you

639
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: add food waste to the pile and add soil, you're

640
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: introducing energy source to energy consumer. Okay. And at the

641
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: base of this is the is microbial life bacteria mostly

642
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: but um, the bacteria go to town. They start eating

643
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: this stuff, and the smaller it is, the more service

644
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: area there is, the more the bacteria can eat. And

645
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: they actually take the nutrients out of this and use

646
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: it for cellular respiration, which is why they need oxygen,

647
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: because they take oxygen and combine them with the carbon

648
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: and they create a t P which they use as

649
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: an energy source to power their cells and live and

650
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: frolic and play, and in doing so they create carbon dioxide.

651
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: That's right. So um, as they're doing this, they're they're

652
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: actually breaking the stuff down from what you'd recognize as

653
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: a banan appeal closer and closer to that finished humus

654
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: project product. So you've got bacteria and they're a big

655
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: part of it. And depending on the phase that the

656
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: compost miles in, uh, the there will be different kinds

657
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: of bacteria in your compost pile. Yeah, and it's not

658
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, just bacteria there's a fun guy doing lots

659
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: of work. Um. We mentioned neba toads there. You're gonna

660
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 1: eventually get mites in there, and slugs. You've already thrown

661
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: your worms in, some millipedes doing some action, all these

662
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: cute little legs, and overall these are known as primary consumers.

663
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: Some are are are all of them primary consumers? While

664
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: they're listed okay by this person who made this fancy chart.

665
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: So then above that, chuck, you get the secondary consumers, secundo,

666
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: and those are right, those are the um, those are

667
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: the predators of the primary consumers, right yeah. And then

668
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: you have tertiary consumers. They're the predators of the secondary consumers.

669
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: And so you put all this together and what you

670
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: have is a food web if microbs breaking the stuff down,

671
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: worms and stuff doing the same thing in some way. Um,

672
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: and then other predators, different graduated levels of predators preying

673
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: on the smaller animals to keep their population in check

674
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: and to keep everything in a perfect balance so that

675
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: it's as efficient as possible. And eventually a great white

676
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: shark comes along. What gets me eats the whole pile

677
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: thanks to a shark, Nato. What gets me though, Um,

678
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: the best The best part of all this to me

679
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: is that if you look at the lifespan of a

680
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: compost pile from brand new to finished humans to humus,

681
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: it's a It forms a bell as far as the

682
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: temperature gradient goes, right, Yeah, it's really kind of cool.

683
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: So the first stage is the mesophilic stage. Temperatures get

684
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: up to I think forty degrees celsius. I can't remember

685
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: what that is in fahrenheight. Yeah, we'll go with celsius. Okay, um,

686
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: so it's warmish. And then as the cellular respiration mounts

687
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: and builds, a more and more bacteria born and start

688
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: eating and carry this cellular respiration out. The byproducts are

689
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: CEO two and heat, and heat starts to accumulate in

690
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: the compost pile so much so that it gets up

691
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: to something like um fifty to sixty degrees celsius, which

692
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: is like a hundred to a hundred and fifty degrees fahrenheit. Yeah,

693
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: and it's hot. At this point, your organisms are going

694
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: to change. You're gonna have thermophilic there. These are a

695
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: little heat loving critters and they move in because it's

696
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: nice and warm. Their snowbirds, their desert dwellers, and they

697
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: like it when it's warm. Um. But here's the thing

698
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: is you want to like you want you don't want

699
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: it to get too hot, so you want to continue

700
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: to airate and keep that temperature and check. What you

701
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 1: want is that natural bell to happen on its own, right,

702
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: So the mesophilic um bacteria die off or they go

703
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: kind of dormant as it enters the thermophilic phase. And

704
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: then after the thermophilic phase ends. The reason it ends

705
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: is because they've eaten up all of the stuff that's

706
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: there to eat and only the hard stuffs left over.

707
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: And so the thermophiles go away, and some of the

708
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: mesophiles come back and new stuff comes in like um

709
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: acts in of my seats actin of my seats, which

710
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: are kind of like a weird fungi. Bacteria cross and

711
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: they break down like the really hard woody shrubby stuff

712
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: UM and they finish it off. And this third phase

713
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: is called the curing phase. Right, And at the end

714
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: of all of it you have this great nutrient rich

715
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: hummus humus. But in the middle of that, when it

716
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: gets really hot, it gets so hot, chuck that pathogens

717
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: that can make you sick, that can make animals sick,

718
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: that can make plants sick, are actually killed off in

719
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: the face, which is why when you get your hands

720
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: on compost on humus, it's organic. It's been basically treated

721
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: naturally to rid itself of parasites, pathogens, all sorts of

722
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: bad stuff, and all that's left off does the nutrients

723
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: that have been broken down in the process that a

724
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: plant can use very easily, and again the circle of

725
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: life starts over again. Yeah, and you know, I mentioned

726
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: sun earlier can dry it out, but if if it

727
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: gets over sixty five celsius, it's gonna kill off so

728
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: many microbes. It's gonna really slow down your process. Uh

729
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: So that's another reason you turn it is to kind

730
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: of keep and again don't have it direct sunlight, but

731
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: it's going to keep that temperature where it does its

732
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: thing naturally. Where you don't want to, you know, put

733
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: a heat lamp on it. I just want to keep

734
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: it moist, turn it over and let it do its thing,

735
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: and you might come out there on a chilly morning

736
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: there might be steam coming off of that sucker, and dude,

737
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 1: that's when you just like you go hot dog. Yeah,

738
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: hot diggity dog and you go inside and you eat

739
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: a banana yea, and you throw it on the on

740
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: the pile. All right, So when is it all over? Man?

741
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I just love this is why I love earth science.

742
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: It's really amazing because it's like it requires a little

743
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: bit the human management. But then you kind of just

744
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: step away and say, do your thing. It's really neat.

745
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Uh when is it Overwell, you can tell. There's a

746
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: few ways of being able to tell. Um. The temperature

747
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: starts to go down. If it's below a hundred degrees fahrenheit,

748
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: it's out of the thermophilic phase and it's now into

749
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: the mesophilic phase. This says that it's probably done. I disagree.

750
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: I think you probably wanted even cooler than that, because

751
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: the longer you let it cure, the more um diverse

752
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: the microbes inside are going to be, the better the

753
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: soil that you use to amend it with is going

754
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: to be sure. Temperature is one uh, one of it

755
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: is just eyeball it. And if it's if it's about decomposed,

756
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: like if you still see clearly a banana peal, then

757
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: it's not done. Right. You don't want to recognize this

758
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: stuff is food at this point, um or an eggshell

759
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: or whatever? Um? And is it? Is it smaller? Is

760
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: if it's been reduced by and it's dark brown or

761
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: black and crumbly and it looks kind of like soil,

762
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: then you're you're cooking with gas. It's my dad used

763
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: to say, Um, the texture, did you say smooth or crumbly? Yeah?

764
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: What about the smell, Well, it shouldn't um, it shouldn't

765
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: stink bad at this point. No, it should smell earthy.

766
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: And actually one of my favorites the actin of my sites,

767
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: the actin of my seats. Okay, they are the reason

768
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: that soil and dirt has its smell. It's those guys.

769
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: They give it its earthy smell and that cool. Yeah,

770
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: and I think we didn't mention you know that it's

771
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: doing well along the way if it stopped smelling like

772
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't just stink the whole time, right, And it's

773
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: not gonna smell earthy. The soil that you add will

774
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: smell earthy. But when you grab a handful of humus,

775
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: it should just fall through your fingers. It should be

776
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: the closer to black, the better, and it should smell

777
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: like every everything associated with earth would smell like. It's

778
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: like the word earth. That's what it should smell like.

779
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: Like you'll understand what earth smells like. Yeah, they said

780
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: pete moss. If you if none of this makes sense,

781
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: go to your local hardware store or lawn and garden

782
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: center and smell the pete moss exactly. Um. So, now

783
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: that it's done, you've got your wonderfully natural fertilizer. Use it,

784
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: Put it, Spread it out in your garden, Spread it

785
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: out around your trees, throw it in your yard, spread

786
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: it around your naked body, and run around your yard

787
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: if you want to. Um, it's got a doobie pile

788
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: or quack grass. Yeah, stay away from that stuff. Um.

789
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: It's basically like the easiest way to put it without

790
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: getting too scientific, is it's gonna make everything better. It's

791
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna increase soil microbes. It's gonna increase nutrients and enhance them.

792
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna improve the pH and chemistry of your soil,

793
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: your yards structure and again. And like, what you've just

794
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: done is taken stuff and had it broken down into

795
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: its components, unlocked it for your plants to use. So

796
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: your plants are gonna say thank you brother. Pretty amazing. Ye. Uh,

797
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: some people create a lot of it and sell it,

798
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: but you know, mainly people do this to just use

799
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: around their house. Yeah, and increasingly towns are starting to

800
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: do curb side composting. Pickup food waste, pickup where you

801
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: got trash, recycling bin food waste. Been an appeals, You've

802
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: been an appeals? Right, that's it all right, go forth

803
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: and composts. Yeah, if you want to know more about composting,

804
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: you can type that word in the search part house

805
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: to works dot com. Cornell actually also has a really

806
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: great site about composting if you want to know more

807
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: about the science of it. Were very excited. I love that.

808
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: Um And since I said, Cornell, it's time for listening mail,

809
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this child Life Specialists made a couple

810
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: of these it road And remember we talked about this

811
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: in the pain scale and kind of reminds what it was,

812
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: and we turns out we were right. And by the way,

813
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: we heard from paramedics doctors quite a few people about

814
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: the worst pain. Yeah, you don't want a long bone fracture. Yeah,

815
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: almost of them said a broken femur is like the

816
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: worst pain you can experience. And should we say why, Yeah,

817
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: go ahead, So several reasons. Right, We are right because

818
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: apparently it's a very sensitive area, but also because without

819
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: that structure, your muscles start um spasm ng, which just

820
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: rocks the whole thing back and forth even more and

821
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: then in like fragmented bone, hitting nerve and like all

822
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: kinds of badness. So steer clear of that, all right.

823
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: So we heard from from two. I'm gonna read the one,

824
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna shout them both out. Hey, guys, very

825
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: excited to hear you mentioned child life Specialists during your

826
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: recent episode on pain Scales. As a child life specialist myself,

827
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: I thought we'd take the opportunity to tell you a

828
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: little bit about our profession. You are right, Chuck, A

829
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: child Life Specialists is uh. We help kids deal with

830
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: being hospitalized. That's really the essence of our job. We

831
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: support children and families throughout stressful situations such as hospitalizations,

832
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: using our knowledge of child development and play to facilitate coping.

833
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: Child Life Specialists UM provide children with developmentally appropriate education

834
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: about diagnoses and treatments, preparation and support for procedures, and

835
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: opportunities for normalization and play. Um. What a great job. Seriously,

836
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: I can't think of too many jobs that are more

837
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: rewarding than that. Seriously, we also provide support for siblings

838
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: and provide legacy building and memory making and end of

839
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: life situations. Our profession is very rewarding. Josh, you are right.

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