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Speaker 2: What's up everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky together again. Buck.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm great, DJ, I'm great. Had a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Ready to get going. Talk about some of these defensive

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Speaker 2: things football. We're kind of in that weird stretch, right.

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Speaker 2: We got Mini camp on the horizon, but we know

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Speaker 2: So we're we're almost there. It's almost like having senior

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kind of excited to see your friends again.

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Speaker 1: We have some ground to cover day. I'm look forward to.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk you mentioned on defensive tackles. We'll have

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Speaker 1: our defensive tackle draft for the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep that series alive if you've missed any of

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Speaker 1: the previous episodes. We took care of the offense, so

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna do defensive tackles today. We're also going

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Speaker 1: to do hit some misses on the twenty nine eighteen drafts.

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Speaker 1: So I like to read a couple of reports I

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. But before we get started, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I got something I want to share with you. I

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Speaker 1: got to get up and get it real quick. Columbus.

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Speaker 1: So we like success. We like to be champions right here.

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Speaker 1: That's what we ute ourselves on here on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: So Buck played in my first scrambled golf tournament, okay,

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Speaker 1: with three buddies. Mind you, they're they're good. One of

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Speaker 1: I think Buck is the worst I've played. They basical

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. Oh I'm the king of the scramble.

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Speaker 2: point of attack allows them to bring in those other guys.

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00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,840
Speaker 2: But their best defensive player. I mean, I'll say this

435
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,639
Speaker 2: and I like, so it's going to best defensive players

436
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,360
Speaker 2: Quinn Williams.

437
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,200
Speaker 1: No, I think he's one of the hardest guys to find.

438
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,639
Speaker 1: To find somebody that can do everything he can do,

439
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,760
Speaker 1: and he's still an as sending player. The contract should

440
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,000
Speaker 1: be coming soon. I would imagine a lot of guys

441
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,159
Speaker 1: in his class already getting paid, so I would imagine

442
00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,879
Speaker 1: that contract is going to get done soon. Quentin Williams

443
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,680
Speaker 1: dominant player. I'm going to go with someone who I

444
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,840
Speaker 1: believe was in the same class, right, Jeffrey Simmonso tell

445
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,800
Speaker 1: you about that. It's seven and a half sec last year,

446
00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 1: but just a dominant player. We saw him I think

447
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 1: was the Rams game. Was it the opening game against

448
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: the Rams? They can block him. I mean, he just

449
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 1: was unbelockable. So for a team that has been, you know,

450
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 1: fairly consistent, last year wasn't the year they wanted. But

451
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 1: he has been a key cog in that group there

452
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 1: and really kind of fits the physical mold that you're

453
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 1: looking for there under Mike Rabel. I think he's he's

454
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 1: a hard player to find with his strength, quickness, combination

455
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 1: he possesses, you know, Quentin Williams. Jeffrey Simmons. To me,

456
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 1: there's their their neck and neck. They're very, very similar

457
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 1: in terms of the impact that they have. So I'll

458
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 1: go Simmons with my second pick.

459
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 2: Man DJ. We were talking about it because these interior

460
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,160
Speaker 2: players that we're going to continue to discuss the next generation,

461
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,360
Speaker 2: the stars at the position man they are look, they

462
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 2: don't get enough credit. And so this guy was under

463
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 2: the radar for a long time, but we had a

464
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 2: chance to see him go to the Super Bowl. Javon

465
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 2: Hargrave and Javon Hargrave inside out. You just talked about

466
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 2: the power, the explosiveness, the way that he is able

467
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 2: to dominate. I can't wait to see what he does

468
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 2: in San Francisco because it's not only who he surrounded by,

469
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 2: but it's the coaching that he's going to get. Chris

470
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 2: Casik being able to whisper those sweet nothings in his ear,

471
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: talk about effort and toughness and freeing them up to

472
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 2: get after it. Javon Hargrave playing alongside Eric arm Said

473
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 2: and Nick Bosa problems. That's what the San Francisco forty

474
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: Nineers front line is going to create because Javon Hargraves

475
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 2: is a dominant player on the inside.

476
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: Do you remember those I mean that time where we

477
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 1: had the Cowboys and the Niners and the nineties and

478
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 1: you had Charles Haley changing teams, you had Yeah Dion

479
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: changing teams. How the impact those you know, individual players

480
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: can have. It is the Eagles and the Niners right now.

481
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: That could be a notebook thing for you, Buck. I

482
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 1: haven't given you a notebook the thing in a while.

483
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:43,719
Speaker 2: It could be.

484
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: Is that move enough to tip the balance of power

485
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: between these two Juggernauts and the NFC? I think that's

486
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: an interesting question.

487
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 2: It is an interesting question because the Niners are their

488
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 2: best when they're able to run the football like they

489
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: want to and they're able to let their front line dominate.

490
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: Their front line now is back to the dominant level

491
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 2: last year really heavily dependent on Nick Bosa. Will you

492
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: bring in an interior player that can dominate like hargre

493
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 2: It's going to raise the level of everybody Eric Armstead

494
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: to get in the mix. I think Bosa is always

495
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: going to do his thing, but it's a more complete,

496
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: more diverse, and more dynamic frontline then it Hardgrads is

497
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 2: joined the team.

498
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: Be interesting to see, like if you looked in history

499
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: of two teams coming off of a championship game matchup,

500
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: who are like I would love to see that list.

501
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 1: Maybe research could do that for us, But see who

502
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: the high profile players that have gone from the team

503
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 1: that lost, or from the team that won to the

504
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 1: team that lost, and can that be something to maybe,

505
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, turn the tide in that conference. I mean,

506
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: those are the two teams in the NFC that is

507
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: a big time, big time player. They're gonna throw down

508
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: the middle of that defensive front. I'm a big Jvon

509
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: Hargrape guy, no question. All right, this next one's gonna

510
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: pain you. It's gonna hurt you because you thought you're

511
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 1: gonna get him with your next pick. I already know it,

512
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: but you waited too long. And now your dad is

513
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: going to be a better team than you of yours

514
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: team because big one of his players in big decks.

515
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm taking Dexter Lawrence, who has been a monster for

516
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: the Giants and one of those guys when you talk

517
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: to offensive lineman like we get a chance to visit

518
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 1: with a lot of these guys, talking to Kelsey for

519
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: one of them, who we had on a few weeks back, Yeah,

520
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: they speak in reverence of Dexter Lawrence, of just how

521
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: big a challenge he was is on a weekly basis

522
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: when you see him. He is a dominant run defender

523
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: who just keeps getting better and better and better as

524
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: a pastor. She had seven and a half sacks last year.

525
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: As somebody who at that size and that quickness, I mean,

526
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: he's to me, I think it sounds crazy because I

527
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: was there with him and he was such a great player.

528
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: I think he's a better version of Hellodi. Like I

529
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: think he's a better layer than I was.

530
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because people didn't view Dexter liked that.

531
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 2: You remember it was the tabby a controversy when he

532
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: was taken in the first round because people were saying,

533
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 2: why would you do that for a run stopper, a

534
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: run stufferer, nose tackle. But he's so much more and

535
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 2: wing Martindale is just absolutely unlocked him by putting them

536
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: in different spots, let him sometimes be the nose, the

537
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: zero technique and absolutely crush the center. He does that.

538
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: He also takes advantage of his athleticism and allowing him

539
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: to kind of work off the edge a little bit

540
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: on range.

541
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: Man, he's got so much range.

542
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Look, he's a super talented player. And it's

543
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: funny because when you said it's going to pain me,

544
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I thought you take my pig.

545
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

546
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: Deron Payin is next from the commanders. I'm gonna go

547
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 2: with him quietly, DJ. He quietly had like eleven.

548
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: Plus sacks lash eleven and a half sacks last year.

549
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you just don't see big guys who are

550
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: able to do that. He not only does that, he

551
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: keeps his former college teammate Jonathan Allen in line when

552
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 2: they have these arguments on the sideline. But you just

553
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: don't see into your players that can get double digit

554
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: sacks in the manner in which he's able to do it,

555
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: powerful runs over offensive linement on the way to the quarterback, stout,

556
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: and rugged against the run. He's everything that you want

557
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 2: as that interior player. And it's funny that we elected

558
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: to go with these interior guys because you know what, man,

559
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: it used to be a you want two edge rushers

560
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: to do it. Now you need to have an inside

561
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: guy and an outside guy. They'd really be a dominant

562
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: defensive lot. One of the reasons why I watched it

563
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: is a dominant front line. Deron payin his ability to

564
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: control the middle of the line of scrimmage.

565
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can really rush.

566
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: Man.

567
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: What's interesting is in all these other positions that we've done,

568
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, we may like the first four.

569
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: Maybe we shuffle around a little, but we kind of

570
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: knew who the first four was. And then after that

571
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: usually we can go in a lot of different directions.

572
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: I've slotted. I just ranked ten guys and I'll get it.

573
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get five of these guys. My top seven

574
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: are gone in the seven picks, like they're all well,

575
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: I feel like we've looked at these guys similarly with

576
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: how we value them. So my eighth guy will be

577
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: my eighth pick, and that's going to be Deforce Buckner.

578
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh nice.

579
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: As he continues to age, still plays at a very

580
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: high level. It's just so unique to see a guy

581
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: at his size be able to do what he does.

582
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: Hopefully they can run him out there for seventeen games

583
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: this next year. But he's again somebody that can win

584
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 1: every single down, runner pass. You have to account for him.

585
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: So I'll go DFO here.

586
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so you go DFO. Look I like to pick.

587
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 2: And it's so funny how quickly things change the Nation

588
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: Football Leaguecause were talking about him at one point when

589
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: he gets to Indianapolis, like maybe he would emerge as

590
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: the defensive Play of the Year candidate. Hasn't worked out

591
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: to this point, but it hasn't been his fault. He

592
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: still plays at a high level. I'm gonna go now

593
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: that I took Deron payin, I'm gonna stick with the

594
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Alabama theme and I'm gonna go with Jonathan Allen going next.

595
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: Because de Ron Payne is able to get eleven and

596
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: a half sacks, Jonathan Allen gives you seven and a half.

597
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: He's able to come inside, and you think about what

598
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 2: Ron Rivera and Jack del Rio like to do. They

599
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: want to rush forward, drop seven and allow the front

600
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: line to eat. And we've seen it. If the Commanders

601
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: get solid offensive play, they're more than good enough of

602
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: being a playoff team. And so hopefully they'll be able

603
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: to get that this year with a B enemy. So

604
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: then we have a greater appreciation for not only what

605
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: de Ron Payne brings, but what his teammate on the inside,

606
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: Jonathan Allen brings as an interior pass rush.

607
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: Well, that was my ninth pick. So literally we've gone

608
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: just right down the list here one through nine of

609
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: how I had these guys. So you know I've got

610
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: to go to my tenth guy. I didn't think I

611
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: would even need to pick my tenth guy. I thought,

612
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: for sure, okay, Bucking be somewhere off with you know,

613
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be aligned perfectly on this. He'll have

614
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: somebody else. But here we are. So this next one,

615
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: this is where there was. I thought you had the

616
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: nine guys, that those were the nine, and I thought

617
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: after that this was where it really splintered off. And

618
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: it's just a flavor thing.

619
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: You know.

620
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: I love Videvea, what he gifted. There's some other players

621
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: coming off big years. I think Zach Allen's kind of

622
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: underrated player. Get a chance to see him what he does.

623
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: Really good player. But I'm gonna go with again, what

624
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: I think is gonna happen this year, not last year.

625
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: This guy last year was not healthy, only played in

626
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: ten games, wasn't the same as he was as a rookie.

627
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: But I saw him up close and personal his rookie

628
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: year and know what he's capable of, and I feel

629
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: like they're gonna get it out of him this year.

630
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna surprise you a little bit. I'm gonna take

631
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: Christian more with the tenth pick.

632
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, that's not a surprise.

633
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: It's not a surprise rise because he played ten games

634
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: last year. I think only had a couple of sacks.

635
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: They have a dominant athlete.

636
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: Man. Anyone who saw like near the end of the

637
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: year when they started kind of playing okay, it was

638
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: because Barmore was was in the mix. This is a

639
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: really good player. Another Alabama guy, guy who you talked

640
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: about his dominance in the flashes that he displayed at Alabama.

641
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: You see some of that stuff in his play. The

642
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 2: thing is, you need to give him more opportunities. They

643
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: are a funny team when it comes to their pastor's

644
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: principles and those things. But Christian Barimore is up and coming.

645
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: He was one of those guys getting ready to watch

646
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: their do one of his games his rookie year and

647
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: just watching the tape and I was like, oh man,

648
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yes, power man, he's got some big time explosiveness.

649
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: So oh there you have it. Man, You're right Alabama

650
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: heavily heavily recognized here. How about how about just SEC overall?

651
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: So the non SEC guys Aaron Donald non SEC. Then

652
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: we've got hard Grave, Hardgrave yet and Hardgraves non sec. Obviously,

653
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: that's two. Dexter was ACCDFO was Oregon. But you've got one. Yeah,

654
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean one, two, three, four, six of the ten

655
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: sec guys.

656
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: That's amazing. It's kind of crazy.

657
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: All those defensive tackles are, man, if you want to

658
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 1: get them, that's where you got to go shopping.

659
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

660
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: Anyways, there you go. There's our defensive tackles. Let's let's

661
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: jump over to some hits and misses before we get

662
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: out of here today. Buck, you're ready, Let's do it

663
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: all right, a little different. This is the twenty nineteen group,

664
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to sometimes I like to get

665
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: some guys maybe not at the top of mind players,

666
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: but interesting where you can have a takeaway from it.

667
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: So let's go first. Let's go to two hits. I'm

668
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: gonna start us off, Buck. This guy was drafted fifty

669
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: one spots lower than where I had him, so he

670
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: was my fifty fourth player. Is a safety, but a

671
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: versatile player. Uh five ten seven two ten, ran four

672
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: to four eight, good size, said deep half, also plays

673
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: over the slot. He's got range versus the run, quick

674
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: reading phil, he can play as a big nickel. He

675
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: can mirror tight ends, very very ball aware. So you've

676
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: got a couple of different takeaways here. Number one two

677
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: and ten pounds, so he's got some size, he's got

678
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: the versatility to play in the deep half or as

679
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: a slot, and really really instinctive. So I think those

680
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: are three good takeaways. This guy's been a really good player.

681
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: He's bounced around a little bit. I think he's on

682
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: his third team now, but his has been a really.

683
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: Good I'm all over the place on this one. You're

684
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: gonna have to help me out. I'm gonna need to.

685
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm in the phone a friend.

686
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a tip. He has played one

687
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: of He started out his career with the New Orleans

688
00:29:52,160 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: Saints bombill No. He then uh played in the Super

689
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: Bowl last year after a trade ooh Tree.

690
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: Trade again big Nickel and plays Ohn Gardner Johnson.

691
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: There you go nicely, man. But I mean, the guy's

692
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: been a winning player and now I was in Detroit. But

693
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting with safeties, like what are some

694
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: of the concerns you talk about Guys maybe undersize guys

695
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: who aren't you know, aren't good tacklers, Guys who don't

696
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: have instincts is probably the number one sign that you're

697
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: in trouble. But you know, we've talked about it for

698
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: a while. You think about playing high as a safety,

699
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: being a box defender, or being a nickel. You've got

700
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: to be able to do two of those three at least.

701
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: You can't just be just a high safety, just a nickel,

702
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: just a box guy. Like to me, it's the versatility

703
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: that position is extremely extremely important.

704
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, versatility is everything, and you have to be able

705
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: to fill multiple roles because more teams are playing three

706
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: safety defenses, they are using guys I low nickel you

707
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: want Sometimes you want a big knil, sometimes you want

708
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: a small nickel. And so the more you can bring

709
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: to the table certainly gives you a chance to not

710
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: only carve out a nice career, but to be a

711
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: key playmaker in a defense.

712
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: All right, next one up here. I told you I

713
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: was going a little obscure with this. All right, this

714
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: one will be interesting for you. So this is one.

715
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm counting this as a hit because Buck, this this

716
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: is a wide out. Who was my one hundred and

717
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: eighty eighth player. Ooh, one hundred and eighty eighth. He

718
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: was five h eight six one eighty eight, ran four

719
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: three one. He went sixty two spots higher than I

720
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: had him graded. So I was not a big fan

721
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: slot short stepper, has some speed, quickness in and out,

722
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 1: lots of double moves, fly sweeps. He had a very

723
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: inconsistent Senior Bowl. And he's a body catcher. So there's

724
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: your there's your red flags, undersize body catcher, bad Senior Bowl.

725
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: But this guy went in the let's see, he was

726
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: picked in the top seventy picks, Buck, top seventy picks.

727
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: And seventy picks. Was I'll tell you this.

728
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: He was a second round pick.

729
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: Is unbelieve you had him one, you had him one.

730
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: Eighty one, eighty eight. He went in the second round.

731
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: And he's been a bust.

732
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: M hm, he's been a bust.

733
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: Uh Mikole Harmon, No, No, no, he's he's still around.

734
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: He just signed with the Jets.

735
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 2: No, I don't DJ, I'm I'm looking around.

736
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Undersized, did not play in a Power five.

737
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: You gonna have to give.

738
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: He went to an AFC West team in the desert

739
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: in the second round. Oh Andy, Andy Isabella, Andy Isabel.

740
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: He went in the second round.

741
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Buck.

742
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: He couldn't he didn't have consistent hands. He was undersized

743
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: and had inconsistent hands like That's so those are two

744
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: things that don't go well together.

745
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see if you notice what team is Andy

746
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: Isabella on? Now?

747
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, is he on the He's not on the Eagles?

748
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: Is he?

749
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: No? I think they do this on TNT. They asked

750
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: Forthy in the league. Is he's on the Baltimore Ravens?

751
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: Is he really? Is he?

752
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: Is? He?

753
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Is?

754
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: He? Isabella? Yeah? Yes?

755
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Interesting?

756
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: Wow?

757
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: Buck ye undersized, super super fast, undersized body catchers. I mean,

758
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: think about that. You've got limited strikes on with the size,

759
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: and now we can't catch.

760
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: The ball outside our body.

761
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: Like that's a problem.

762
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was man. That as you said, that was

763
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: a little rich. I do remember watching him in the

764
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. Not a great week. No, not a great week.

765
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: News fast though, super fast trends.

766
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: Okay, all right now that's those are pat on the

767
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: back moments. Now I can talk about how I'm a dummy.

768
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Let's get to two misses here. Uh. This one is

769
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: a safety. He was five eleven three, two hundred and

770
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: five pounds, ran four four five. I compared him to

771
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill.

772
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

773
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: This guy plays like an assassin. High safety, flies downhill,

774
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: quick pedal, quick trigger. He can cover in the slot

775
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: plays one hundred miles an hour. I questioned his hands

776
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: and playmaking ability, but loved his physicality. He was a

777
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: first round pick and it hasn't hasn't been a great

778
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: fit workout for him. I think he may be on

779
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: Team three now.

780
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 2: Oh, first round pick? Was it didn't work out for him?

781
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: Mmm?

782
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: Not it? Repeat? Repeat your little thing because I'm looking. Yeah. No.

783
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: I compared him to Kean O'Neill. Uh again five three

784
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: two five, physical, big hits like had splash splash hits.

785
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: I think he's been.

786
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Yeah, neighbor. I don't know why

787
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: I love. I loved his game, but that.

788
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: Changed it for me too, which was like, okay, this

789
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: what he does best is not rewarded anymore, you know,

790
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: big splatter hits like that's not can't play Like.

791
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: No, you can't play. Yeah, you can't play with those

792
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: guys anymore. It's unfortunate, like to think about him. He

793
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: was so limited a little bit in coverage, but man,

794
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: when you watched him on tape, he was just all

795
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: over the place so fast and knockout shots and all

796
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: of this other stuff.

797
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: My he was my twenty third player. He was a

798
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: twenty seventh pick, so that's going to be a miss

799
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: on my end. All right, let's get to another one here.

800
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Let's go wide receiver H six two even two twenty

801
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: five ran four four nine. He had forty contested catches

802
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: the last two years, which I always look at that

803
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: and say, good thing, bad things. Right, you're not separating

804
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: red zone, animal, post up player, basketball family background.

805
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

806
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: He's quick and sudden, but he's stiff. He wins early

807
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: off the line and tracks the ball really well. But

808
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: so the you know, he was someone that went in

809
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: the second round. I had him eight spots over where

810
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: he got picked, So I had him, as you know,

811
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 1: in the bottom of my top fifty. But you've got

812
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: this physicality there, but you have somebody with stiffness and

813
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: contested catches like I think that when you look at

814
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: contested catches, you can you can go glass half full. Wow.

815
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: I look at all the acrobatic contested catches and you

816
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: go glass half hamps and go, oh, this guy is

817
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: not getting away from anybody. And the stiffness I think

818
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: was the one that he just couldn't overcome. I believe

819
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: he's changed positions now. I think he's actually a tight end.

820
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: Oh is this j J or Sega whiteside, Yes, yes,

821
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: it is nicely done. He's still in the league, I

822
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: believe so yeah, somebody I think the Eagles, Yeah, oh,

823
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: tight end and some I don't know if where he

824
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: is now, but.

825
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: He's now with the Atlanta Falcons.

826
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: They listen as a tight end or a whiteout mm hmm.

827
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: Right now they see him as wide out. But I

828
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: give what you're saying. He's making that transition. Yeah.

829
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: So but again like that, the stiffness to me is like,

830
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: let's let's let's give you the greatest example of a

831
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: successful stiff wide receiver. DK Metcalf's the best tight receiver

832
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL.

833
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: Well.

834
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is a freak fourth low four to three

835
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: speed at his size, like the absolute freak. So you

836
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: don't need him to run a full compliment route. He

837
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: can do his damage, you know, run on runaways, you know, slants, goes,

838
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: posts like he can do all of his damage quick

839
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: hitters that let him run with the ball in his hands,

840
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: like being a really really refined route runner working back.

841
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: You don't need to when you're a freak, well, if

842
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: you're not, if you're just you know, solid athletically as

843
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: a route runner, and then you have stiffness. That's a

844
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's a death sentence, but

845
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: it's very difficult, man.

846
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: It's hard to overcome. It's hard to overcome like the

847
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: lack of fluidy when you're a white eye. Like we've

848
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: seen some guys do it. I would say Mike Kevans

849
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: is a little stiff, but he's so explosive and straight

850
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: line guy and he has a special quality. But yeah,

851
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: it's hard if you can't get in and out, and

852
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: big guys tend to have a tougher time doing on it.

853
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: But it's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard, and

854
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: it's hard to imagine. Like like the funny thing about

855
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: our Secad Whiteside is can he ever be big enough

856
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: to be a tad end or will he always just

857
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: be the jumbo wide out. Yeah, just tough to take them.

858
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: But I think that the hits and misses are good,

859
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: not only because we can all make fun of me

860
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: for missing out players, but I think it's I think

861
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: there's lessons. You can take lessons on why some of

862
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: these guys worked out, and you can take lessons on

863
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: maybe why they didn't.

864
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's such an interesting deal, like watching all

865
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: of this stuff, like just watching how people progress over time,

866
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Speaker 2: and normally DJ everyone knows it takes about three or

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Speaker 2: so years just to figure out how long if you

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Speaker 2: can play or not. And then that's why we we

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Speaker 2: kind of grade the way we grete. But don't you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you did the same thing. Like

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Speaker 1: there's these little easter eggs you find them in your

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Speaker 1: in your reports, and you're like, man, that that was

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Speaker 1: I had that that I had that little piece of

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Speaker 1: information there I should have that should have been trusted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have trusted, should have trusted myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. All right, Buck, anything else you

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Speaker 1: want to add before we jump out of here.

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Speaker 2: No, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: We got another one coming later in the week. It

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Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun. Yep, be on the

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Speaker 1: lookout for that. No more golf tournaments for me this week.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: You know. If I retire, I retire as a champion,

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Speaker 1: that's all that's.

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Speaker 2: Go out on top, go out ONTI.

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Speaker 1: I changed so many to the point where it just

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Speaker 1: had gone so downhill towards the end where they're like,

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Speaker 1: it's just they're like you're you've lost it. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I know they gave me. They gave me for playing

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Speaker 1: in the tournament. They gave you six balls for winning

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Speaker 1: the tournament. They gave us, you know, like in part

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Speaker 1: of their little gift package was like three of these

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Speaker 1: Provy you know prov ones, like they're real nice.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah balls.

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Speaker 1: Right, So they gave me nine golf balls. And at

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Speaker 1: the little ceremony thing, I leaned over to my buddy,

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, they still want me twenty one. I

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Speaker 1: think I lost about thirty balls. All right, Well, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys hanging with us, and the Bill always

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Speaker 1: doing a wonderful job as the producer of this fine podcast.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you hanging with us, and we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Right here on MO.

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Speaker 1: Wants us want to open texts to

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Speaker 2: Sense of Us to beta opens them