WEBVTT - A Kick To The Balls Cures An Overbite 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.200 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.280 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.520 Armstrong and Gatty and now he. 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:25.159 Armstrong and Yetty. We are going to talk war with 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.600 Iran and our military analyst Mike Lyons looking forward to 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.160 a huge story. But we have breaking news on something 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.479 also huge. This is big. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.519 If we had a herd of donkeys, we would have 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.480 them braying right now. The Supreme Court struck down most 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.920 of President Trump's are sweeping tariffs, a ruling that deals 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:48.000 a major blow to his signature economic policy, stinging political setback, 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.519 and on leaching. Lord knows what logistical nightmare. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:57.240 Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal. This is 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:07.679 breaking news. So now I can't even imagine. Oh boy, AnyWho. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.080 Welcome to the spicy times. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.680 Trump was asked yesterday about ongoing negotiations with Iran, as 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.360 we've got the biggest military build up there since the 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:19.839 Gulf War, and he said, this. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.720 Now is the time for Iran to join us on 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:26.320 a path that will complete what we're doing. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:28.280 And if they join us, that'll be great. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.600 If they don't join us, that'll be great too. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:32.559 But it'll be a very different path. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.040 They cannot continue to threaten the stability of the entire region, 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.560 and they must make a deal or if that doesn't happen, 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.080 I maybe can understand if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, but. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.760 Bad things will happen if it doesn't. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:57.600 The theocracy of Iran has killed more US soldiers than 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:03.639 any other country in the last half a century. Number 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.040 one global exporter of terror. We're supposed to be engaged 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.520 in a war on terror, if I remember correctly, number 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.880 one exporter of state sponsored terror in the world. Trying 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.760 to get a nuclear weapon, which almost everybody thinks would 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.960 be a disaster for the planet. And yeah, now seems 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:20.520 like a good time. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.480 And finally, the strange lack of discussion of all of 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.480 these things in the media and the American people in general. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.880 To discuss all of that and more, my clients, military 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.000 analyst joins us, Mike, greetings, how are you? 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.040 Thank you money guys, great for having me and left 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.680 out the greatest foreign policy failure of the United States 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.280 in a post World War two era as Aarana has 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:44.160 impacted so many lives since you know, since the revolution 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.399 took place in seventy eight, seventy nine, and it's impacted 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.359 my life. And I could go on and on, but 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.000 it looks like the time is now. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:53.840 I was just going to say, I'm fond of saying, 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.400 Mike that there are some problems that can't be solved, 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.160 they can only be managed. But this does appear to 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.840 be a moment where maybe the Iran problem could be 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.720 quote unquote solved. A lot of risk there too as well. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.120 No question, and you know what the military targets are 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.480 are remained to be seen, likely going after the nuclear capability. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.040 The first strike we took a few months ago definitely 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.840 set them back, but it didn't actually take out all 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.480 of their capability. You've got three stages of creating a 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.880 nuclear weapon. You have you know, mining uranium ore, and 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.720 the second phase is that in enrichment. We took out 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.680 most of the enrichment facility. And then that third phase 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.919 is weaponizing. They have ballistic missile systems, so they're all 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.160 part of their process and that system there for us 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.200 to actually make sure it goes away, we have to 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.320 take out all capability in all three. Now, you won't 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.720 take out the drain brain. Obviously, they're going to have 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.600 the intellect to do this, but take away our capability 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.360 of trying to create a nuclear weapons the mission right now, well. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.240 That's maybe the first stop for our missiles. But all 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.400 the reporting is this is going to be a sustained 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.920 campaign for weeks and look a lot more like a 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:03.160 war than a strike, which we haven't seen for quite 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.760 a while. Are you concerned about where this could go 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.280 and how they could retaliate? 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.400 Well, I think they have one shot. I think they 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.240 have capability to go after Israel, maybe some US bases 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.080 in the region that we've hardened down now over the 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:20.120 past few weeks, let's say one thousand to two thousand 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.719 ballistic missiles that they could fire. Then eventually they're just 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.640 they're going to run out. They have run out. Israel 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.599 has done a tremendous job over the past six months 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.800 again treading their capability. So we've going to be concerned 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.680 about that and we'll take some losses, Commanders take losses. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.120 I'm sure Israel is likely at a full war state 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.480 right now as they prepare for what could be an 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.400 onslaught of ballistic missiles coming in their direction. But the 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.120 upside for US is we don't have the army there, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.240 so we're not invading anytime soon. There's no troops going 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.960 on the ground there. This is going to literally be 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.480 an air war if it goes in that direction. And 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.040 today you heard the President talk about Diego Garcia and 0:04:56.200 --> 0:05:00.560 Raf Fairford. Those are strategic be to strike you know, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:05.600 stealth bombers, the ones that deliver that massive ord penetrator 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.159 bombs and the like. So this is this is the 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.440 tell I think in my perspective, I think that this 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.720 is going to be an air war. And for the 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.000 first time again we don't see the army there being 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:16.400 a participant. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.240 Speaking of Diego Garcia, I believe the brit said you 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.440 can't use it. And we're getting no thanks from Saudi 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.680 Arabia and the UAE and some other allies. So it 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.880 might be logistically a little more challenging to get our 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.000 fighters refueled and that sort of thing. Is that going 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.760 to be significant you think to the success of whatever operation. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.080 Well, I think once the thing starts, I think they'll 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.320 change their minds. And once it starts to go, the 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.480 Saudis do not want the Ranians to have a nuclear 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.000 weapon as well. And if this does happen, and the 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:51.160 Intel says and based on what you know Israel, inside Mosade, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.359 inside the country there that this won't be like Venezuela, 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.120 where well they'll take out the leader. In fact, we 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.320 won't target the leader. That's illegal for us to do that. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.960 But if when we know about the revolutionary guards, the 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.160 individuals that control really the government control everything right now, 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.800 that have their thumb over most of the people. There's 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.440 a generational fault line that's there in any army. There 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.520 is you have the older generals and the younger privates, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.679 and the captains and the majors and the colonels in between. Well, 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.680 the bottom line is, if there's a revolution and the 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.760 older generation gets wiped out, the people are going to 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.799 come after that middle and younger generation, so they could 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.320 hold the key to this whole thing. If this could 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.359 be one of these successful internal revolutions that take place 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.520 once it gets started kinetically. So that's hope, a little 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.960 bit of a method there, not a method, but fundamentally 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.400 that's what I think the planning is. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.080 Saying Washington Post. The President has publicly raised the possibility 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.560 of toppling around Supreme Leader, a long time US adversary, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.520 suggesting last week quote it would be the best thing 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.479 that could happen. Are we going to try to take 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.480 out the Ayatola? 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.920 I just don't think that's legal. I think we can't 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.560 target him legally. We don't want other countries doing that 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:59.680 to our president. 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.760 And we can't make it look like it's on purpose. 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.560 Are we going to Yeah, yeah, we can target the 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:11.000 outhouse next to his palace there. Look, that would just 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.880 not be a really good solution here at this point, 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.760 and allowing him to leave might be the way to go. 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.240 But I think I think the rains are dug in, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.840 and that's why there's no negotiation. I mean, here's the 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.920 bottom line. From their perspective, they are close to breakout. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.920 They're close to weaponizing nuclear capability, and once they do that, 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.120 now they're a player in the game that they have 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.240 the deterrens that they can that they're looking for. They 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.040 could if they weaponize one or two bombs and can 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.400 fire that at Israel and destroy, you know, kill one 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.880 hundred thousand people in downtown Tel Aviv. That's all the 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.800 deterrens that they need from their perspective, and they're very close, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:49.000 and that's why they're trying to extend this negotiation out talking. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:50.960 Hopefully they can get it done. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.560 But they have to be reacting like the Eyetola obviously 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.200 and leaders of the Revolutionary Guard wherever, that this is 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.800 a we're gonna die situation, what the fancy people call 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.640 an existential threat, as in, we're going to die if 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.320 if this occurs. So they're going to give everything that God, 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:08.800 aren't they. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.040 Yeah, And that's likely. Like I said, there'll be this 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.920 one barrage that'll come and once it starts, though, I 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.600 think it'll be so overwhelming on our side plus Israel. 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.640 We need Israel at this juncture as well. Maybe other 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.920 allies will get involved, but once I believe it does 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.800 start that we will take out a lot of their capability. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.080 They also have this humanitarian crisis that's about to happen 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.880 to around doesn't have enough water for its people, So 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.160 that the conditions are right for this revolution to take 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.600 place there kinetically from the air, that again we haven't 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.079 seen historically work before. Usually it's going to take someone 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.600 inside the military there as well, the regular Iranian Garmy 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.800 Army for example. We'll have to do something because if 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.880 the Revolutionary Guards decides to shoot civilians, then it's going 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:54.920 to be a really bad situation. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.000 Yeah, at some point we need to talk a little 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.360 more about the actual tools of kinetic warf fair in 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.040 place and what it's going to look like. But the 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.080 politics of this is just so interesting to me. If 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:09.040 I were to advise the Ayatola and his regime right now, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.160 I would say, agree to everything at the negotiation. Everything, 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:16.520 we'll start violating next week, along string and along string. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.760 Is there any reason they wouldn't do that? Could they 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.440 possibly think that they can hold off the US with arms? 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.800 No, I don't think they can, and that's exactly what 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.800 I would do also, But they still are very brazen 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.480 what they're saying, and they seem to be still adamant 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.480 about not compliantly. I mean, what the US is demanding 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.040 is something that they really can't accept. It's unfettered inspections. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:42.840 It's either ballistic missile program is gone. It really breaks 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.560 up the alliance. Where is the alliance? Where's the China, 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.000 Russia and North Korea alliance? 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:47.120 Here? 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.160 Or China has not helped them at all. They delivered 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.439 some ander fence systems over the past few months. Russia 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.000 has no game that they could play right now, There's nothing. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.719 There's no way they can try to support this. North 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.160 Korea is smart to stay on the sidelines here because 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.559 if they start acting up again, the United States will 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.680 go after them as well. So this is a good 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:08.240 reflection of what the mission in Venezuela. Obviously gave the 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.120 world the signal about our capability, so I think from 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.000 the deterrence perspective, that's really good. But things still could 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:15.800 go sideways, and I'm sure that's what they're planning for. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.079 Is this going to be a sustained campaign of weeks? 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:22.840 I think it's I think it's going to be a 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:27.120 sustained campaign of once they're confident they've destroyed every single 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.959 arrange in target, whether that's the underground missile basis, whether 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:39.320 that's revolutionary guard installations, and any last standing nuclear facilities. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.560 They had about eleven of them when this whole started 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.800 last June, when we first attacked, really only after a 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.080 few of them, and so I think every single one 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.040 of them will be turned to ash, and we're not 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.600 going to stop until the satellites show that that's the case. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:56.320 Military analyst Mike Alliance, Mike, so interesting and so much 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.679 more to say, is the events develop can't wait to 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:00.240 talk again. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:04.800 Thanks, thanks for remy all right, absolutely also his whole 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:09.680 It would be illegal to take out the iatola. Uh, 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.600 randomn't care about I mean, Israel doesn't care about that 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.640 sort of thing. Like We're probably not gonna pull it 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.079 and put a bullet in the back of the head 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.320 of some nuclear scientists, but Israel will. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.840 And come on, plausible deniability. So you find out the 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.360 iatola is in buildings, c you take out buildings A 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.680 through half. Oh he was in there. Damn. I wow, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.480 that's unfortunate. Come on, come on, here's a quick word 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.680 from our friends at rough Greens. And then next segment, 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.600 we have got to talk about the Supreme Court knocking 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.959 down Trump's tariffs. I have all sorts of good analysis 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.080 already gathered up, so stay with us. 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I can't 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:47.959 even imagine. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:51.160 How that will work. O nightmare god, I'd say. Anyway, 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.840 we've got all bear on K Street, that's my title. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.480 And then we've also got to get to woo you 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.720 boo goo. Right if you don't know what that means, 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:01.599 stick around. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:10.640 The Supreme Court ruling that President Trump's use these emergency 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.600 tariffs that he has implemented are illegal. It's the most 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.400 significant economic case to reach the High Court in years, 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.960 sweeping implications for the economy and of course for presidential 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.160 power and at stake. Here are billions of dollars in 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.280 revenue that have already been collected by the government. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.640 The out of control Trumps Supreme Court is what. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.480 So, the thing Trump has been talking about since the 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:45.600 eighties that the country needs to do to stop the 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:51.000 unfair ripping us off by countries around the world turns 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:58.160 out it's illegal. That's something All my conservative sources that 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.120 I look to are happy. I don't know about Trumpy sources, 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.439 but conservative as opposed to Trumpy, who believe in the 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.840 rule of law and that one man shouldn't be able 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.559 to upend the economy like this, are happy about this ruling. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:16.200 The Court holes that AEPA, that Emergency Executive Powers Act 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:21.000 does not authorize the president to impose tariffs. It's written 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:22.000 by the Chief Justice. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.520 Yeah, it just occurs to me if you're going to 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:28.400 follow this through Twitter or cable news today, Democrats who 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:32.040 have always wanted to use tariffs Bernie and his crowd 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:36.360 have always wanted to use tariffs. That crowd is going 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.760 to cheer that Trump lost. And then there's a whole 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:44.360 bunch of people that yes, Republicans have always been against tariffs. 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.680 And the court comes in and says no to this, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.600 then a whole bunch of Republicans are going to be boo. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.520 So the scripts have really flipped there. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:58.040 Indeed, Yeah, so Roberts wrote the decision based on tourds 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.280 separating by sixteen others. In i EPA regulate in importation, 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.800 the President asserts the independent power to impose tariffs on 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.720 imports from any country of any product, at any rate, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.480 for any amount of time. Those words cannot bear such weight. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:15.200 It's a six to three with Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh dissenting. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.240 I'd like to big fans of all I. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.280 Know and they're hardcore conservatives, or certainly Thomas, I would 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.320 like to read, actually read his explanation why I think 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:31.160 the president could do this. The winning opinion decision to 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.800 the power to impose tariffs is very clearly a branch 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.920 of the taxing power, which is what a lot of 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:38.960 people have been saying. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.040 It's a taxing and separation of powers is a sacred 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.360 principle of conservatism, So I'm surprised I've got to read 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.480 Thomas Alito and Kavanov's descents. But just for the record, 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:54.200 Roberts wrote it, joined by Soda, Mayor, Kagan, Gorsuch, Barrett, 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:59.120 and Jackson, and then the both the concurrences and the 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:04.200 sense are long, dozens and dozens to hundreds of pages, 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.320 which says to me, yeah, I agree with y'all, but 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.560 I think you're getting this wrong. And that's not quite 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:16.240 right and very scattered decision. So I doesn't say a 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.000 thing about refunds, by the way, well right, the refunds thing. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.840 All the people that paid, you know, X dollars more 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.440 for a car or truck or a microwave or whatever 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.960 the hell do you get your money back? All the 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.120 companies that ate a whole bunch of that or saw 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.240 their sales go down because of the tariffs, do they 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.760 get anything back? How does this get unspooled? About a 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:44.360 thousand lawsuits, probably significant implications for the US economy, consumers, 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:48.400 the president's trade policy. Trump said, I lost the Supreme 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.800 Court would force the government to unwind to trade deals 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.680 with other countries. Correct and potentially pay hefty refunds to importers. 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.040 Well, this is his big stick in a lot of 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.440 cases too. What he would you know, whether it was 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.840 Country's about Greenland or punishing China or whatever. It's just okay, 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.520 one hundred percent tariff starting next week if you don't 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.520 come around and that tool is gone. Now. 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.159 I have been harshly critical of that tool and the 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.879 way Trump's yielded it. And like we say about a 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.880 handful of different things these days, you go far enough 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.919 down the road of a bad policy untangling, it's going 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.000 to be really painful, see immigration for instance. Yeah, in 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.760 the opposite direction, I agree with a lot of what 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:29.800 Trump's doing on that. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.160 I'm glad it was six three and not five four. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:33.720 That's a little helpful. 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.760 Or all the conservatives and all the liberals just right, 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.359 because that makes that stupid, dishonest narrative too easy to perpetrate. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:44.719 We have some savvy analysts, including the great Jonathan Turley, 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.600 cued up and ready to go for your next segment, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.399 trying to sort out what all this means. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.399 Well, this is a big deal. In a couple of 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.199 days before the State of the Union address, where he 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.320 was going the days before we go to war with Iran, 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.679 when he was going to go up and tout the 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:00.920 good account of me, which he's got a lot of 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:02.639 numbers to back him up. But he probably was going 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:05.320 to credit the tariffs for the good economy, and or 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:11.879 maybe he still is. I don't know, probably Armstrong and getty. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.719 A lot of times your big Supreme Court splashy Supreme 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:22.840 Court rulings are actually very very complicated and misconstrued by 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.919 all the coverage. I don't know that this is the 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:26.960 case in this one. Everything I'm reading so far, it's 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.080 pretty clear cut that even a dunce like me can 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:35.120 understand why the Supreme Court said, no, you can't put 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.040 tariffs in all these different countries. Call it an emergency, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.679 and do it as the president, with John Roberts writing, 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.600 had Congress intended to convey the distinct and extraordinary power 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.639 to impost tariffs, it would have done so expressly right, 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.040 which is very simple to understand. If Congress wanted the 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.080 President to be able to do this, it would have 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:54.840 been very clear. 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.639 One more key quote from the decision, the President SERTs 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.880 the extraordinary power to unil laterally imposed tariffs of unlimited 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.679 amount duration, and scope. In light of the breadth history 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.240 and constitutional context of that assorted authority, he must identify 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:13.119 clear congressional authorization to exercise it. The Chief Justice wrote again, 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:18.919 the dissenters were among my fath Justices Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh, 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.080 interestingly enough, can't wait to read their descents. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.439 Well, that's probably eight million pages. I'll have to have 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.960 AI summarized for me. But I'm interested in that too. 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.359 There are two kinds of tariffs. One I thought maybe 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.640 they'd let him slide on, because you got the one 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.560 kind that was every remember on Liberation Day, every country 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:40.040 on Earth, because we have a trade imbalance with them, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.120 which is nonsensical. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.879 But and some of those countries who got a trade 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:46.720 surplus with. 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.480 But that's not an emergency now, even if you buy 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.000 the idea that as the world's biggest superpower, of course 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:57.840 there's more trade going on one direction than the other 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.640 in a lot of cases. But how do you call 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:01.280 that emergency. 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.040 The other one, though, less you're a mercantilist, google it. 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.320 Canada, Mexico, and China. The one about fentanyl. I thought 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.280 they might let him slide on that one, calling that 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:14.040 an emergency. But none of those kinds of tariffs. This 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.520 ruling says, Nope, you can't do any of this. Jonathan 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.720 Turley was a couple of interesting takes. Let's start with 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:19.240 thirty seven. 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.399 Michael, this is what some of us predicted. This was 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:27.120 a case where the administration was at a disadvantage. AJIPA 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.400 does not refer to tariffs, and tariffs are a big 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.560 deal under the Constitution. It's a critical form of revenue 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.440 that is left to Congress. And I thought that the 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:41.360 administration did a terrific job in front of the Supreme Court. 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:44.040 They could not have argued this case better, in my view, 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.640 but you can't really escape that language. And right out 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.240 of the bat when that oral argument began, the Chief 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:55.439 Justice John Roberts said, this is a tax, and you 0:20:55.440 --> 0:21:00.480 could almost hear the administration gulping because that's not what 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:06.080 they wanted the justices to take from their argument. Roberts 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.240 and others clearly view this as a tax that rests 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:09.960 with Congress. 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.359 Jonathan Turley is good and he knows he's talking to 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.600 the Fox audience, so I like the way he words it. 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.359 I always thought that the Trump administration was at a 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:23.480