1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Gatty and now he. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Yetty. We are going to talk war with 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: Iran and our military analyst Mike Lyons looking forward to 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: a huge story. But we have breaking news on something 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: also huge. This is big. 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: If we had a herd of donkeys, we would have 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: them braying right now. The Supreme Court struck down most 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: of President Trump's are sweeping tariffs, a ruling that deals 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: a major blow to his signature economic policy, stinging political setback, 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: and on leaching. Lord knows what logistical nightmare. 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal. This is 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: breaking news. So now I can't even imagine. Oh boy, AnyWho. 15 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to the spicy times. 16 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: Trump was asked yesterday about ongoing negotiations with Iran, as 17 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: we've got the biggest military build up there since the 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: Gulf War, and he said, this. 19 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: Now is the time for Iran to join us on 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 4: a path that will complete what we're doing. 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: And if they join us, that'll be great. 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: If they don't join us, that'll be great too. 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 3: But it'll be a very different path. 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: They cannot continue to threaten the stability of the entire region, 25 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 4: and they must make a deal or if that doesn't happen, 26 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: I maybe can understand if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, but. 27 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: Bad things will happen if it doesn't. 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: The theocracy of Iran has killed more US soldiers than 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 3: any other country in the last half a century. Number 30 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: one global exporter of terror. We're supposed to be engaged 31 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: in a war on terror, if I remember correctly, number 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: one exporter of state sponsored terror in the world. Trying 33 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: to get a nuclear weapon, which almost everybody thinks would 34 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: be a disaster for the planet. And yeah, now seems 35 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: like a good time. 36 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: And finally, the strange lack of discussion of all of 37 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: these things in the media and the American people in general. 38 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: To discuss all of that and more, my clients, military 39 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: analyst joins us, Mike, greetings, how are you? 40 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 5: Thank you money guys, great for having me and left 41 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 5: out the greatest foreign policy failure of the United States 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 5: in a post World War two era as Aarana has 43 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: impacted so many lives since you know, since the revolution 44 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 5: took place in seventy eight, seventy nine, and it's impacted 45 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 5: my life. And I could go on and on, but 46 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 5: it looks like the time is now. 47 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: I was just going to say, I'm fond of saying, 48 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: Mike that there are some problems that can't be solved, 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: they can only be managed. But this does appear to 50 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: be a moment where maybe the Iran problem could be 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: quote unquote solved. A lot of risk there too as well. 52 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 5: No question, and you know what the military targets are 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 5: are remained to be seen, likely going after the nuclear capability. 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 5: The first strike we took a few months ago definitely 55 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 5: set them back, but it didn't actually take out all 56 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 5: of their capability. You've got three stages of creating a 57 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: nuclear weapon. You have you know, mining uranium ore, and 58 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 5: the second phase is that in enrichment. We took out 59 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 5: most of the enrichment facility. And then that third phase 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 5: is weaponizing. They have ballistic missile systems, so they're all 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 5: part of their process and that system there for us 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 5: to actually make sure it goes away, we have to 63 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 5: take out all capability in all three. Now, you won't 64 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: take out the drain brain. Obviously, they're going to have 65 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 5: the intellect to do this, but take away our capability 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 5: of trying to create a nuclear weapons the mission right now, well. 67 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: That's maybe the first stop for our missiles. But all 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: the reporting is this is going to be a sustained 69 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: campaign for weeks and look a lot more like a 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: war than a strike, which we haven't seen for quite 71 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: a while. Are you concerned about where this could go 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: and how they could retaliate? 73 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 5: Well, I think they have one shot. I think they 74 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: have capability to go after Israel, maybe some US bases 75 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 5: in the region that we've hardened down now over the 76 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 5: past few weeks, let's say one thousand to two thousand 77 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 5: ballistic missiles that they could fire. Then eventually they're just 78 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 5: they're going to run out. They have run out. Israel 79 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 5: has done a tremendous job over the past six months 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: again treading their capability. So we've going to be concerned 81 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 5: about that and we'll take some losses, Commanders take losses. 82 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 5: I'm sure Israel is likely at a full war state 83 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 5: right now as they prepare for what could be an 84 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: onslaught of ballistic missiles coming in their direction. But the 85 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 5: upside for US is we don't have the army there, 86 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 5: so we're not invading anytime soon. There's no troops going 87 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 5: on the ground there. This is going to literally be 88 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 5: an air war if it goes in that direction. And 89 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 5: today you heard the President talk about Diego Garcia and 90 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 5: Raf Fairford. Those are strategic be to strike you know, 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 5: stealth bombers, the ones that deliver that massive ord penetrator 92 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 5: bombs and the like. So this is this is the 93 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 5: tell I think in my perspective, I think that this 94 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 5: is going to be an air war. And for the 95 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: first time again we don't see the army there being 96 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 5: a participant. 97 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: Speaking of Diego Garcia, I believe the brit said you 98 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: can't use it. And we're getting no thanks from Saudi 99 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: Arabia and the UAE and some other allies. So it 100 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: might be logistically a little more challenging to get our 101 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: fighters refueled and that sort of thing. Is that going 102 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: to be significant you think to the success of whatever operation. 103 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 5: Well, I think once the thing starts, I think they'll 104 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: change their minds. And once it starts to go, the 105 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: Saudis do not want the Ranians to have a nuclear 106 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 5: weapon as well. And if this does happen, and the 107 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 5: Intel says and based on what you know Israel, inside Mosade, 108 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 5: inside the country there that this won't be like Venezuela, 109 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 5: where well they'll take out the leader. In fact, we 110 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: won't target the leader. That's illegal for us to do that. 111 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 5: But if when we know about the revolutionary guards, the 112 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 5: individuals that control really the government control everything right now, 113 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 5: that have their thumb over most of the people. There's 114 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: a generational fault line that's there in any army. There 115 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 5: is you have the older generals and the younger privates, 116 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 5: and the captains and the majors and the colonels in between. Well, 117 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: the bottom line is, if there's a revolution and the 118 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 5: older generation gets wiped out, the people are going to 119 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 5: come after that middle and younger generation, so they could 120 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 5: hold the key to this whole thing. If this could 121 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 5: be one of these successful internal revolutions that take place 122 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 5: once it gets started kinetically. So that's hope, a little 123 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: bit of a method there, not a method, but fundamentally 124 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 5: that's what I think the planning is. 125 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: Saying Washington Post. The President has publicly raised the possibility 126 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: of toppling around Supreme Leader, a long time US adversary, 127 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: suggesting last week quote it would be the best thing 128 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: that could happen. Are we going to try to take 129 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: out the Ayatola? 130 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 5: I just don't think that's legal. I think we can't 131 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 5: target him legally. We don't want other countries doing that 132 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 5: to our president. 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: And we can't make it look like it's on purpose. 134 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 5: Are we going to Yeah, yeah, we can target the 135 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 5: outhouse next to his palace there. Look, that would just 136 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 5: not be a really good solution here at this point, 137 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 5: and allowing him to leave might be the way to go. 138 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: But I think I think the rains are dug in, 139 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 5: and that's why there's no negotiation. I mean, here's the 140 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 5: bottom line. From their perspective, they are close to breakout. 141 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 5: They're close to weaponizing nuclear capability, and once they do that, 142 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: now they're a player in the game that they have 143 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 5: the deterrens that they can that they're looking for. They 144 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 5: could if they weaponize one or two bombs and can 145 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 5: fire that at Israel and destroy, you know, kill one 146 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: hundred thousand people in downtown Tel Aviv. That's all the 147 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 5: deterrens that they need from their perspective, and they're very close, 148 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 5: and that's why they're trying to extend this negotiation out talking. 149 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: Hopefully they can get it done. 150 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: But they have to be reacting like the Eyetola obviously 151 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: and leaders of the Revolutionary Guard wherever, that this is 152 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: a we're gonna die situation, what the fancy people call 153 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: an existential threat, as in, we're going to die if 154 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: if this occurs. So they're going to give everything that God, 155 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: aren't they. 156 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's likely. Like I said, there'll be this 157 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: one barrage that'll come and once it starts, though, I 158 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 5: think it'll be so overwhelming on our side plus Israel. 159 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 5: We need Israel at this juncture as well. Maybe other 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 5: allies will get involved, but once I believe it does 161 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 5: start that we will take out a lot of their capability. 162 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 5: They also have this humanitarian crisis that's about to happen 163 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 5: to around doesn't have enough water for its people, So 164 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: that the conditions are right for this revolution to take 165 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 5: place there kinetically from the air, that again we haven't 166 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 5: seen historically work before. Usually it's going to take someone 167 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 5: inside the military there as well, the regular Iranian Garmy 168 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 5: Army for example. We'll have to do something because if 169 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 5: the Revolutionary Guards decides to shoot civilians, then it's going 170 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 5: to be a really bad situation. 171 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, at some point we need to talk a little 172 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: more about the actual tools of kinetic warf fair in 173 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: place and what it's going to look like. But the 174 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: politics of this is just so interesting to me. If 175 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: I were to advise the Ayatola and his regime right now, 176 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: I would say, agree to everything at the negotiation. Everything, 177 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: we'll start violating next week, along string and along string. 178 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: Is there any reason they wouldn't do that? Could they 179 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: possibly think that they can hold off the US with arms? 180 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 5: No, I don't think they can, and that's exactly what 181 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 5: I would do also, But they still are very brazen 182 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 5: what they're saying, and they seem to be still adamant 183 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 5: about not compliantly. I mean, what the US is demanding 184 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: is something that they really can't accept. It's unfettered inspections. 185 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 5: It's either ballistic missile program is gone. It really breaks 186 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: up the alliance. Where is the alliance? Where's the China, 187 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 5: Russia and North Korea alliance? 188 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: Here? 189 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 5: Or China has not helped them at all. They delivered 190 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 5: some ander fence systems over the past few months. Russia 191 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 5: has no game that they could play right now, There's nothing. 192 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 5: There's no way they can try to support this. North 193 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 5: Korea is smart to stay on the sidelines here because 194 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 5: if they start acting up again, the United States will 195 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 5: go after them as well. So this is a good 196 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 5: reflection of what the mission in Venezuela. Obviously gave the 197 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: world the signal about our capability, so I think from 198 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: the deterrence perspective, that's really good. But things still could 199 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 5: go sideways, and I'm sure that's what they're planning for. 200 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 3: Is this going to be a sustained campaign of weeks? 201 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's going to be a 202 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 5: sustained campaign of once they're confident they've destroyed every single 203 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 5: arrange in target, whether that's the underground missile basis, whether 204 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 5: that's revolutionary guard installations, and any last standing nuclear facilities. 205 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 5: They had about eleven of them when this whole started 206 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 5: last June, when we first attacked, really only after a 207 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 5: few of them, and so I think every single one 208 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 5: of them will be turned to ash, and we're not 209 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: going to stop until the satellites show that that's the case. 210 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: Military analyst Mike Alliance, Mike, so interesting and so much 211 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: more to say, is the events develop can't wait to 212 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: talk again. 213 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks for remy all right, absolutely also his whole 214 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: It would be illegal to take out the iatola. 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Woolf. 247 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: I want to hear the legal analysis of the Supreme 248 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: Court decision that these tariffs are illegal, and then what's 249 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: the economic analysis of unspooling this whole thing. I can't 250 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 3: even imagine. 251 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: How that will work. O nightmare god, I'd say. Anyway, 252 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: we've got all bear on K Street, that's my title. 253 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: And then we've also got to get to woo you 254 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: boo goo. Right if you don't know what that means, 255 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 3: stick around. 256 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 6: The Supreme Court ruling that President Trump's use these emergency 257 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 6: tariffs that he has implemented are illegal. It's the most 258 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 6: significant economic case to reach the High Court in years, 259 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 6: sweeping implications for the economy and of course for presidential 260 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 6: power and at stake. Here are billions of dollars in 261 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 6: revenue that have already been collected by the government. 262 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: The out of control Trumps Supreme Court is what. 263 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: So, the thing Trump has been talking about since the 264 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: eighties that the country needs to do to stop the 265 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: unfair ripping us off by countries around the world turns 266 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: out it's illegal. That's something All my conservative sources that 267 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: I look to are happy. I don't know about Trumpy sources, 268 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 3: but conservative as opposed to Trumpy, who believe in the 269 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: rule of law and that one man shouldn't be able 270 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 3: to upend the economy like this, are happy about this ruling. 271 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: The Court holes that AEPA, that Emergency Executive Powers Act 272 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: does not authorize the president to impose tariffs. It's written 273 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: by the Chief Justice. 274 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just occurs to me if you're going to 275 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: follow this through Twitter or cable news today, Democrats who 276 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: have always wanted to use tariffs Bernie and his crowd 277 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: have always wanted to use tariffs. That crowd is going 278 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: to cheer that Trump lost. And then there's a whole 279 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: bunch of people that yes, Republicans have always been against tariffs. 280 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: And the court comes in and says no to this, 281 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: then a whole bunch of Republicans are going to be boo. 282 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: So the scripts have really flipped there. 283 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: Indeed, Yeah, so Roberts wrote the decision based on tourds 284 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: separating by sixteen others. In i EPA regulate in importation, 285 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: the President asserts the independent power to impose tariffs on 286 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: imports from any country of any product, at any rate, 287 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: for any amount of time. Those words cannot bear such weight. 288 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: It's a six to three with Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh dissenting. 289 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: I'd like to big fans of all I. 290 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: Know and they're hardcore conservatives, or certainly Thomas, I would 291 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: like to read, actually read his explanation why I think 292 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: the president could do this. The winning opinion decision to 293 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: the power to impose tariffs is very clearly a branch 294 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: of the taxing power, which is what a lot of 295 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: people have been saying. 296 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: It's a taxing and separation of powers is a sacred 297 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: principle of conservatism, So I'm surprised I've got to read 298 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: Thomas Alito and Kavanov's descents. But just for the record, 299 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: Roberts wrote it, joined by Soda, Mayor, Kagan, Gorsuch, Barrett, 300 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: and Jackson, and then the both the concurrences and the 301 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: sense are long, dozens and dozens to hundreds of pages, 302 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: which says to me, yeah, I agree with y'all, but 303 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: I think you're getting this wrong. And that's not quite 304 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: right and very scattered decision. So I doesn't say a 305 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: thing about refunds, by the way, well right, the refunds thing. 306 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: All the people that paid, you know, X dollars more 307 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: for a car or truck or a microwave or whatever 308 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: the hell do you get your money back? All the 309 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: companies that ate a whole bunch of that or saw 310 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: their sales go down because of the tariffs, do they 311 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: get anything back? How does this get unspooled? About a 312 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: thousand lawsuits, probably significant implications for the US economy, consumers, 313 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: the president's trade policy. Trump said, I lost the Supreme 314 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: Court would force the government to unwind to trade deals 315 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: with other countries. Correct and potentially pay hefty refunds to importers. 316 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: Well, this is his big stick in a lot of 317 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: cases too. What he would you know, whether it was 318 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: Country's about Greenland or punishing China or whatever. It's just okay, 319 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: one hundred percent tariff starting next week if you don't 320 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: come around and that tool is gone. Now. 321 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: I have been harshly critical of that tool and the 322 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: way Trump's yielded it. And like we say about a 323 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: handful of different things these days, you go far enough 324 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: down the road of a bad policy untangling, it's going 325 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: to be really painful, see immigration for instance. Yeah, in 326 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: the opposite direction, I agree with a lot of what 327 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: Trump's doing on that. 328 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm glad it was six three and not five four. 329 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: That's a little helpful. 330 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: Or all the conservatives and all the liberals just right, 331 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: because that makes that stupid, dishonest narrative too easy to perpetrate. 332 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 2: We have some savvy analysts, including the great Jonathan Turley, 333 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: cued up and ready to go for your next segment, 334 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: trying to sort out what all this means. 335 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: Well, this is a big deal. In a couple of 336 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 3: days before the State of the Union address, where he 337 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: was going the days before we go to war with Iran, 338 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 3: when he was going to go up and tout the 339 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: good account of me, which he's got a lot of 340 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: numbers to back him up. But he probably was going 341 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: to credit the tariffs for the good economy, and or 342 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 3: maybe he still is. I don't know, probably Armstrong and getty. 343 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 3: A lot of times your big Supreme Court splashy Supreme 344 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: Court rulings are actually very very complicated and misconstrued by 345 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 3: all the coverage. I don't know that this is the 346 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: case in this one. Everything I'm reading so far, it's 347 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: pretty clear cut that even a dunce like me can 348 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: understand why the Supreme Court said, no, you can't put 349 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: tariffs in all these different countries. Call it an emergency, 350 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: and do it as the president, with John Roberts writing, 351 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: had Congress intended to convey the distinct and extraordinary power 352 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: to impost tariffs, it would have done so expressly right, 353 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: which is very simple to understand. If Congress wanted the 354 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: President to be able to do this, it would have 355 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: been very clear. 356 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: One more key quote from the decision, the President SERTs 357 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 2: the extraordinary power to unil laterally imposed tariffs of unlimited 358 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: amount duration, and scope. In light of the breadth history 359 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: and constitutional context of that assorted authority, he must identify 360 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: clear congressional authorization to exercise it. The Chief Justice wrote again, 361 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: the dissenters were among my fath Justices Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh, 362 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: interestingly enough, can't wait to read their descents. 363 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 3: Well, that's probably eight million pages. I'll have to have 364 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: AI summarized for me. But I'm interested in that too. 365 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: There are two kinds of tariffs. One I thought maybe 366 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 3: they'd let him slide on, because you got the one 367 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: kind that was every remember on Liberation Day, every country 368 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: on Earth, because we have a trade imbalance with them, 369 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: which is nonsensical. 370 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: But and some of those countries who got a trade 371 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: surplus with. 372 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: But that's not an emergency now, even if you buy 373 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: the idea that as the world's biggest superpower, of course 374 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: there's more trade going on one direction than the other 375 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: in a lot of cases. But how do you call 376 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: that emergency. 377 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: The other one, though, less you're a mercantilist, google it. 378 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: Canada, Mexico, and China. The one about fentanyl. I thought 379 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: they might let him slide on that one, calling that 380 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: an emergency. But none of those kinds of tariffs. This 381 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: ruling says, Nope, you can't do any of this. Jonathan 382 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: Turley was a couple of interesting takes. Let's start with 383 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: thirty seven. 384 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 7: Michael, this is what some of us predicted. This was 385 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 7: a case where the administration was at a disadvantage. AJIPA 386 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 7: does not refer to tariffs, and tariffs are a big 387 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 7: deal under the Constitution. It's a critical form of revenue 388 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 7: that is left to Congress. And I thought that the 389 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 7: administration did a terrific job in front of the Supreme Court. 390 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: They could not have argued this case better, in my view, 391 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 7: but you can't really escape that language. And right out 392 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 7: of the bat when that oral argument began, the Chief 393 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 7: Justice John Roberts said, this is a tax, and you 394 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 7: could almost hear the administration gulping because that's not what 395 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 7: they wanted the justices to take from their argument. Roberts 396 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 7: and others clearly view this as a tax that rests 397 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 7: with Congress. 398 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: Jonathan Turley is good and he knows he's talking to 399 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: the Fox audience, so I like the way he words it. 400 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 3: I always thought that the Trump administration was at a 401 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: disadvantage here. It's a nice way of saying you're wrong. 402 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and always have been. Yeah, a little more turly now. 403 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 7: There's a lot of runway still for the administration. We 404 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 7: have to really get into this opinion, into some of 405 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 7: the weeds to see if it is prospective only. But 406 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 7: also the administration is other tools in its toolbox. It 407 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 7: can actually impose tariffs under other statutes. So this night 408 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 7: is hardly over for the administration when it comes to tariffs. 409 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: How about the absolutely fantastic Sarah Isger. 410 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: This has been a Supreme Court that has really been 411 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: shrinking down executive power. We saw them do this during 412 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: the Biden administration with his student loan debt forgiveness. The 413 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: reasoning here is nearly identical the idea that presidents cannot 414 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: look back to old, vague statutes from Congress to expand 415 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: their own power. This, as Devin said, is a huge 416 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: shift in presidential authority moving forward and probably the most 417 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: important case we've seen from the Supreme Court in decades, 418 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: really putting the ball in Congress's court. If presidents want 419 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: to have these big policy initiatives, they will need to 420 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: work with Congress moving forward. 421 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: It's interesting that she says they're reigning in presidents just 422 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: getting make decisions based on, you know, vaguely worded things 423 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: from the past. Is that going to apply to the 424 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: military stuff at some point, because we've been doing that 425 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: for a long time. Where you use that authorization from 426 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: nine to eleven, from way back for anything you want 427 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: to do in the world. 428 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: Let's table at motion, put a pin in it, circle back, etc. 429 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: For another day. It's a big and ah. I would 430 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: say this to my conservative brethren. Of course, conservatives are 431 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: against hers, my trumpy brethren. The last thing in the 432 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: world we want is the presidency to become kingly. Our 433 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: system protects us from that. Our ideas are better than theirs. 434 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: They work better. Now it's a fight because we're up 435 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: against the academy, as they say, academia and the media 436 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: and entertainment. But our ideas are better. We don't want 437 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: to veer from one king to another every four years. 438 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 3: No, and especially if we're about to head into a 439 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: you continue our populist age, socialist y populist age of 440 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 3: speaking to the aggrieved and getting them all whipped up 441 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 3: and tell them why they deserve more of other people's stuff. 442 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: You really don't want the president to be able to 443 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: just dole out student loans. You don't have to pay them. 444 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 3: Let the rich pay them. And it's the rich that 445 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: took out the loans. It doesn't matter. 446 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was a great episode of Jack Armstrong 447 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: Political Theater. Ah yeah, yeah. I've got to get deep 448 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 2: into the rulings to figure out what this means. But 449 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: the there was not a word that I have seen 450 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: thus far about what do we do with all the 451 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: money we collected and what do we do as you 452 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: pointed out, with the people who paid it and the 453 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 2: companies who went out of business because they're materials that 454 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: they had to import to manufacture in the United States 455 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: were too expensive and they shut down. 456 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I assume there'll be some lawsuits there. The whole 457 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: all of us paid more for a tablet or a 458 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: microwave or whatever. We're just out of luck. I mean, 459 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: there's no way we're getting our money back, obviously. But 460 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: now the companies that went under or had to retool, 461 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: but the companies that you know are breaking ground on 462 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: plants because the only way you can move forward is 463 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 3: if you make that thing here in the United States. 464 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: Because the whole tariff situation. 465 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: I suspect very strongly that most of those companies were 466 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: saying that's what they were doing to please the Trump 467 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: administration and Trump himself, when they'd planned on doing it anyway, 468 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: because that's a classic maneuver in the Trump era. 469 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, you, uh, breaking ground any day. I did 470 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 3: it rained last weekend, But next weekend, that's when we're 471 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: gonna bring around. 472 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: And anybody who said we're gonna spend three billion dollars 473 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: because thanks to Presidents Trump's tariffs, we're going to bring 474 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: back American manufacturer would be a fool. Number One, it 475 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: was still in the courts and everybody knew it was 476 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: not an easy day for the administration. Number two, the 477 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: administration is gonna be gone like it or not in 478 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: a couple of years. 479 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no matter what. And but what about all these 480 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 3: countries that pledged all this money to try to stay 481 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: out of trouble. And then he'd lower the tariffs, so 482 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: you know, I don't remember the numbers, but they he'd announce, 483 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna hit China with a fifty tariff 484 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: for one hundred percent tariff, or India or whoever, and 485 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: then they'd pledge, we're going to we're donating, donating and 486 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 3: basically eighty billion dollars. Yeah, five hundred million dollars whatever. Yeah, 487 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: is that just never really believe it was always phony anyway, 488 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: So it's extra phony. 489 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's well, it's a phony and hollow. 490 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: Mmm. I'll be damned. That's quite the thing. 491 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: Separation of powers, man, you gotta love it. You've got 492 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: to love it. It's kept us afloat this long. 493 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's you got two powers. You got the executive branch, 494 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: which is doing plenty of good job under Republicans and 495 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: Democrats of flexing their power and seeing who will push 496 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 3: back Supreme Court doing something Today, You dumb bastards still 497 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: ain't seeing much out of Congress flexing their muscle. 498 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: You gotta have muscle to flex it. 499 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: They just answer to whoever is uh uh which party 500 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 3: has got the presidency at the time. 501 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: They just raised money on TikTok. Yeah, that's Congresses. It's 502 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: not there in the Constitution, but it's implied. 503 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: Well, I hope, I hope most people realize. I mean, 504 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: I really think this is good news, really good news. 505 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: I do too. The restrained president of executive power is 506 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: good for all Americans. 507 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: Unwinding, it's going to be interesting oh lord. Yeah, and 508 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: so you got the State of the Union address Tuesday, 509 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: which who cares? But he's got to give it, get 510 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: up there and give a speech, and uh, he's he 511 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: got the tariff thing and war? Are we going to 512 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 3: go to war? Is he gonna hold off the word 513 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: after the State of the Union address? 514 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: So you can I heard the Is he going to 515 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: pull an Obama and browbeat the Supreme Court from the rostrum? 516 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: Oh as they sit there but. 517 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: Robed that'd be a good one. That'd be exciting. No, 518 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: it'd be terrible hus entertainment value. 519 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 4: You. 520 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: Uh, there are days I think if our country was 521 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: a family, I'd think it's falling apart, probably on. 522 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 3: A fall apart. What was they gonna say? 523 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 524 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: Washington Post said Trump might be waiting until the Olympics 525 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: are over. Do you wait till the Olympics are over 526 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: to launch a war? And if so? 527 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: Why? Yeah? Wow, that's well, I mean Russia did that 528 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: with the Olympics in China. But why so they could 529 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: have their party and not distract and cause controversy in 530 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: the rest? 531 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: Well, okay, they they need they need China support. We 532 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 3: don't need Italy's what do we care? With Italy thinks, 533 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: we don't anybody have any thoughts on any of this 534 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: text line four one five two nine five KFTC. 535 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 8: It's definitely a very unusual case. The caller alleged that 536 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 8: there was a dentist practicing and showing signs of intoxication. 537 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 8: They found Kelly Buck, who did exhibit signs of intoxication, 538 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 8: failed the field sobriety tests. She was ultimately arrested for 539 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 8: performing surgery while intoxicated and taken to the Grayson County jail. 540 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 541 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: So somebody calls the police and says, I think my 542 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: dentist is drunk in the middle of the day. I 543 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: assume because that's when dental procedures usually happen. The police 544 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: come and do a field sobriety test on the dentist 545 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: and say, yep, this dentist is drunk. 546 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: What's a field sobriety test for dentists? Right? Still this cavity, 547 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Oh hey, hey, you went outside the lines? 548 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 3: Well right, what's the legal limit for people? Always use 549 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: the legal limit for driving for everything with alcohol? 550 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: Right, Like there's some sort of government limitation for how 551 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: drunk you can get? Right? There's not? Thank god, I 552 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: thought this was America. 553 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: Well, there's all kinds of things you can perform at 554 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: an adequate level buzzed beyond what we allow for driving. 555 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: Sure, easily, it's an entirely different question. Yeah, you stupid. 556 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: You are not out of control sitting on your own 557 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: couch bowing a one point zero watching a football game. 558 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that. That doesn't mean your kids 559 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: are in danger, or your neighbors or anything like that. 560 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: But it's produced that way twice the legal limit, right, Yeah, yeah, 561 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: of for what, idiot? Yeah, I media is so bad, 562 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 3: so do I don't know how. I don't know how 563 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: drunk I want my dentist to be with their sharp tools, 564 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: the gouger, the poker, et cetera. What do you know 565 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: about this, Katie the grinder? 566 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 9: I don't know anything about it other than I don't 567 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 9: want my dentist drunk at all? 568 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, like my airline pilot low threshold. 569 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just not even a don't even sniff very low. 570 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: What if it steadies their hands? Maybe they're the sort 571 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: of person that you know, A quick a drink a 572 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: bracer and calms me down. Now I can do a 573 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: good job and concentrate. 574 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: I famously got better at the road test after a 575 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: couple of drinks. Now it degenerated quickly after that many 576 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah, I hear you, Jack, I'm here. 577 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm guessing since a number of patients had complained 578 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 3: and actually called the police, that it was more of 579 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: an oh still all still. 580 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: More like that. It's not like they have random road 581 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: block checkpoints for dentists. Somebody said something clearly going around. 582 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm perfectly still to move around. Wow, next 583 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: hour when ambulance's attack. Stay with us for that? 584 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 3: Uh you? 585 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, that's right. There was something else I really 586 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: wanted to get into, and it flitted out of my mind. 587 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: What's the matter with me too drunk watching football games 588 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: or something. I'll come up with it. 589 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: I got another dentist story for Katie because she may 590 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: not have heard this one. This happened in Woodland, California. 591 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: Maybe you did report it when you were doing San 592 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 3: Francisco radio. It was very popular around here. The dentist 593 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: who would convince people it was a dude. He would 594 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: convince women that they had TMJ, their jaws hurt, and 595 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: that his cure for it was to massage their breasts. Oh, 596 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: and he did this for years. He did this for 597 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: years where he would just rub on women's boobs, claiming 598 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: he was carrying their team. 599 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 9: There's two problems here. One, he's a creep. Two the 600 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 9: women that fell for it. I know, come on, that's 601 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 9: what we said at the time. 602 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: Like you'd think as the owner of a couple of breasts, 603 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: you would have heard about that, you know at some 604 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: point in your life that that was legit. Yeah, because 605 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: it's pretty notable that in a professional setting somebody gets 606 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: to grab onto both of them, right, you'd think word 607 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: would get around that. Hey, you know if you get 608 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: TMG the TMJ the way they relieve it is, and 609 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: the women would think geez, really. 610 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 3: That would have been on the radar. Oh yeah yeah, 611 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: and plenty of women would thought, well, I'm only going 612 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: to do that with a female dentist or whatever, not 613 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: just some guy. 614 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: Excuse me, trust me, if they if they had to 615 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 2: kick in the balls to cure like, I don't know, 616 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: an overbite, yeah, word would get around. 617 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: Excuse me, doc, can I chat GPT this real quick? 618 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: It's just fine to have trouble. How these two things 619 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: come together. 620 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 9: I just couldn't even imagine if a Dennis said that 621 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 9: to me, going. 622 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, yeah, sure, I remember talking about this a 623 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: lot at the time, and it's it's an interesting insight 624 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: into a chunk of society that will just go along 625 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: with things out of fear of conflict or something. 626 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, fear of conflict, of fear of challenging authority, 627 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: just being so shocked. I mean, I give some leeway 628 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: for wait a minute, what and people are just shocked 629 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: into inaction. I tend to be shocked into action. But 630 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: I think that might just be genetic or something. I 631 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, personally, like you, Katie can't even 632 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: imagine thinking, well, he's the dentist. I suppose I'll let 633 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: him grope me. Yeah, not a chance, Nephie says, I 634 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: have to drop my pants. I'll just submit to that 635 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: as well, right. 636 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 9: Gause. 637 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: That solves an over bike and that wraps up our 638 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 3: Friday segment. Rogue Dennis, We'll see you next Friday. Tails 639 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: of gentle. 640 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: Woo oh boy, still Hostell, I am holding still you 641 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: drunk idiots and taking off my stock next hour. Really 642 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: want to talk about this, even if you are a 643 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: hardcore atheist, Judeo Christian values are what make your life livable, productive, 644 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: and happy in the United States, and everybody needs to 645 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: know it and say it out loud, and Marco Rubio 646 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: did the other day. I want to salute him for 647 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 2: that and drill down a little bit into culture means everything. 648 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: Culture is upstream of everything except perhaps the word of 649 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,479 Speaker 2: God if you believe in God. 650 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: So quickly. A couple of big things if you haven't 651 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: heard them. Supreme Court is ruled Trump can't do that 652 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 3: whole terraff thing, the whole emergency tarff thing, can't. 653 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: Do me out of control Trump Supreme Court. 654 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: So that's a big one. All news organizations reporting sources 655 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: inside the White House and Pentagon saying this strike on 656 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: Iran is looking almost certain and is going to be 657 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 3: a pretty big deal. So we got that also, Prince 658 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: I haven't even mentioned we're blockading Cuba, right, What are 659 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: we trying to get out of them? 660 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: We're trying to get communism out of them. 661 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: That'd be next source is, Yeah, we got a bunch 662 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: of good stuff coming in the next two hours. I mean, 663 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 3: the show's only half over and it's been great so far, 664 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: and it's going to continue to be good. 665 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: That's faint that I haven't slacked off yet as half 666 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 2: a miracle, So stay tuned to see how the next 667 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 2: couple of hours. 668 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be dentist. I'm gonna be dentist drunk the 669 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: last two hours. 670 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: But if you can't stick around, here's an idea. 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