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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Several different

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a bit buck about Kamala being upset at

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden for saying he would have won the election

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Speaker 1: according to The Wall Street Journal. That a report also

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Speaker 1: New Washington Post slogan as we talked about democracy dies

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Speaker 1: in darkness, maybe on its way out. Daniel Penny back

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Speaker 1: on the subways. I want to get bucks take as

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Speaker 1: a New Yorker on Penny just going right back to

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Speaker 1: the subways after they tried to put him in prison

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Speaker 1: for committing a negligent homicide. Basically is the standard that

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Speaker 1: they tried to prosecute him under. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: we're getting fan mail we've been talking about TikTok, and

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Speaker 1: by fan mail, I mean people who believe that you

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Speaker 1: and I are morons. And so let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: hear here's Dan who has emailed this.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: Dan says, I'm shocked you support keeping TikTok so kids

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Speaker 1: aren't devastated with the loss and Trump's investment may suffer.

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Speaker 2: What about national security?

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Speaker 1: Don't you find it difficult to have to build stories

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Speaker 1: constantly that match what Trump wants you to say? Who

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Speaker 1: cares how much people like TikTok? National security is the

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Speaker 1: top priority? Unbelievable. If Trump was against TikTok, your story

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Speaker 1: would be on the other side. So predictable. Now, let

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Speaker 1: me tee this up for you.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: You have actually, when no one else was defending TikTok,

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Speaker 1: you and like what's the guy's name, Jamal Bowman were

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Speaker 1: like the only people in America saying I don't want

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Speaker 3: The only people, the only people on the right that

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Speaker 3: we're raising any questions about it were yours, truly, Senator

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Speaker 3: rand Paul A little bit just because of the government

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Speaker 3: overreach component of just saying we're going to kill a

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Speaker 3: company because we think there's some theoretical national security risks

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Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, I mean, the gentleman can write in

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Speaker 3: whatever he likes and that's fine. But to say that

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Speaker 3: I've changed my tune on that's just contrafactual. I have

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Speaker 3: been pro TikTok when nobody I mean, I say pro TikTok,

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Speaker 3: overblown the national security risk. Nobody was agreeing with me,

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Speaker 3: and now Trump agrees with me. That's different. That's not

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Speaker 1: Trump actually has changed his opinion to agree with Buck,

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Speaker 1: not us. And what I would say about myself. First

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Speaker 1: of all, there's lots of things that I disagree with

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Speaker 1: I want an American or an American company to own TikTok.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate Dan listening and believing that we are

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Speaker 1: I actually think it's a super fascinating question. A lot

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Speaker 1: you have a variety of perspectives. I was alongside a

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Speaker 1: Buck kind of impressed by how many of you are

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Speaker 1: the latest on TikTok from him as it continues to

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Speaker 1: we may well take some more of calls on TikTok today.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate I think his name was Dan being such a

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Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this, buck they actually aired

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Speaker 1: think it's significant of the voice out there from all

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Speaker 2: Listen to this. I know there's a little bit of

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Speaker 4: There's a group of people in Bristol who just made

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Speaker 4: an enormous mistake. It was a human error. It happens.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to minimize it by any stretch. But

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Speaker 4: including our programming lineup where we normally would have had

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Speaker 4: It wasn't that it was Sports Center, which is done

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Speaker 4: It was just not good by any measuring stick and

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Speaker 3: Do you buy play that it was a foul up

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Speaker 3: this is like when someone says I misspoke, it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: I think they're also somewhat connected because it goes to culture.

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Speaker 1: If you make horrible errors or enormous mistakes, if your

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Speaker 1: there was a terror attack in New Orleans yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We've got to make sure.

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Speaker 1: That we have the moment of silence and that we

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Speaker 2: And it's also a.

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Speaker 1: Significant story how New Orleans responds to a terror attack

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Speaker 1: the day after you know there's not any It takes

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Speaker 1: the resilience of the American spirit is to me the

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame won it. But I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people will remember the spirit of New Orleans. But ESPN

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Speaker 1: fouled it up. So I think it goes to culture,

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Speaker 1: regardless of direct intent, that it could be allowed to

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Speaker 2: Now, we've been.

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Speaker 3: Talking about the trajectory of social media platforms, news media,

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Speaker 1: I think we're winning. And that's why I think again.

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Speaker 1: I understand, we'll get emails every day, we get vip emails.

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Speaker 1: You can't trust Zuckerberg, can't trust Bezos. I understand that argument.

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Speaker 1: But what I am seeing is I don't think ESPN

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Speaker 1: they tried to initially blame timing error. Now suddenly they're saying, actually,

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Speaker 1: we should be held to account for it. Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you Clay Travis and Buck Sexton were right to call

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Speaker 1: us out for it. You, Clay Travis and other OutKick writers.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Barack is most established on writing this story. For instance,

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Speaker 1: at OutKick dot com. We're winning the culture battles. And

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Speaker 2: And where does that come from? Buck?

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Speaker 1: It comes from overwhelming majorities of the American public saying

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Speaker 1: And again, I think the silent majority, which oftentimes had

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Speaker 1: Regardless of what you want to argue in favor of well,

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Speaker 3: when the President of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Does it, it makes.

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Speaker 3: It a lot harder for someone to say, well, you

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Speaker 3: and there's a force multiplier effect that comes from all

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Speaker 3: of that. But I would wonder on the sports media

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Speaker 3: this stuff you have to use the preferred pronoun, you

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Speaker 3: have to this blew up in their faces and they

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Speaker 2: Then be like why do you care? Why are you

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Speaker 1: Text this morning is among many things as we're prepping

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Speaker 1: there's a dude playing in San Francisco on the girls

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay and Buck here and just a little,

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Speaker 3: a nice little momentum boost, not that I think one

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Speaker 3: All respects Clay in the most powerful political position he

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think there are a lot of Democrats

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: So to me, if I ever got attacked by a shark,

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Speaker 1: the emotional trauma that I would feel going back into

438
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Speaker 1: the ocean would be so immense that I don't think

439
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: I would ever surf again. I don't think I would

440
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: ever go into the into the ocean again. The mental

441
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: bravery from her doing that to me somewhat akin to

442
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: Daniel Penny, whatever you think about his behavior.

443
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: Except Clay, it's a little bit like if she ripped

444
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: the dorsal fin off the shark or something.

445
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I mean, I'm not sure.

446
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: The mental trauma of being put like you talk about,

447
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: and I do think it's true. The process is the punishment.

448
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the mental trauma relating to being charged with

449
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: negligent homicide, all of the work that you would have

450
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: to do, sitting at that table every day, looking at

451
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: that jury, the fact that they were going to try

452
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: to put you in prison for years for something that

453
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: you think you were justified to have done. I give

454
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Speaker 1: credit in the same way that I would to the surfer,

455
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: but also to Daniel Penny. I think they're mentally tougher

456
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: than me. I don't think that I would be able

457
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: to go on the subway without thinking constantly in a flashback,

458
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: oh what if something like this happens again. Now there's

459
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: also the element of, hey, you're right. People might recognize

460
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: him some, but he might try to do something to

461
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: him because he's famous that a little bit. I just

462
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I would go back in the subway.

463
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: And I give credit immensely to him, because it is

464
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Speaker 1: an incredible amount to me of mental toughness to just

465
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Speaker 1: be like, hey, I did what I think is right,

466
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: and now I'm going to go right back to my

467
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: normal life. And if that situation arises again. Guess what,

468
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it again because I know I

469
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. I think it's an incredible credit

470
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Speaker 1: to him.

471
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 3: I also think that the people who don't want someone

472
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: like a Daniel Penny to step in are among those

473
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Speaker 3: who are the least likely to.

474
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: Try to bring it face out there that are on

475
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: social media in general. The guy who says if I

476
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: ever see you, I'm going to kick your ass either

477
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: pretends he doesn't see you in real life or ask

478
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: for a photo. That's been my experience, like the chirpers

479
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: on social media are typically not the people that are

480
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: likely to do anything. By the way, Bethany Hamilton, according

481
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Speaker 1: to the staff, I was gonna say Bethany Frankel, and

482
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: then I was like, no, I think she was a

483
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: real housewife, very different Bethany. But Bethany Hamilton, she was thirteen,

484
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: arm got, She's a great surfer, and her arm got.

485
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: She had attacked, she lost an arm, and she went

486
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: right back into the surf. And to me, that is

487
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: an incredible amount of mental toughness to have something awful

488
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: happened to you and come through it on the other

489
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: side and say I'm going to continue to live my

490
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: life the same way I was before. Is I think

491
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: an agree of mental toughness that not very many people

492
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: out there are capable of.

493
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Speaker 2: I don't know that I am. I will tell you.

494
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Speaker 3: I had a friend recently told me at a at

495
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: an event he had been scuba diving over over five

496
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: hundred dives. He's a big scuba diver. And I said,

497
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: you know, what's the craziest thing you've ever seen? And

498
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: he actually witnessed a fatal shark attack, he told me

499
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: underwater and it's in the shark attack file. He told

500
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: me the whole story, which is quite a story. But

501
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 3: the thing about it that was other than just the

502
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: sort of shock and horror of hearing that somebody actually

503
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: saw that happen to someone.

504
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: I was like, and you keep scooba diving.

505
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, of course, He's like, you know, it's

506
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 3: a bad luck. It's like getting struck by lightning. I'm

507
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: just like, I don't know, buddy, Like a big tiger

508
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: shark came and took somebody not far from me, Like

509
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 3: I think I would have had enough on that one.

510
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: But then again, I agree with you. Mostly went at

511
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 3: the beach. I'm I'm an up to my knees guy.

512
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: For the most part, you know what I mean.

513
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: I like to go up the knees level.

514
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll sah around in the face, I'll go out

515
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: pretty far. But I'll tell you this. Here's another example.

516
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: You know, didn't two people just survive that Korean Airlines

517
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: flight that crashed and everybody else was killed.

518
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: On the plane?

519
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, which they were in the very back they were

520
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: flight attendants. If I'm not mistaken, like literally the very

521
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: back of the plane they survived, I certainly wouldn't continue

522
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: to work as a flight attendant. I don't know how

523
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: long it would take me to get back on an airplane.

524
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: I understand the probability is very low of something bad

525
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: happening to you in that context, But the mental toughness

526
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: you would have to have to walk around right back

527
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: onto an airplane after you were one of two people

528
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: that survived an awful crashing landing like that, I just

529
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: think it's a I think it's an incredible testament to

530
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: Daniel Penny. And you know, Buck, speaking of Daniel Penny, yesterday,

531
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: I met a guy who was a lifelong New Yorker

532
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: and he said, in twenty nineteen he moved. He lives

533
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood now, he said. His wife said, I

534
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: don't feel safe riding the subway anymore. We've got to

535
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: get out of New York City. And I think it

536
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: kind of ties in with sort of the cultural vibe

537
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: and shift, and I think there are a lot of

538
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: people out there that have had those experiences and they're

539
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: just the straw that broke the camel's back. They're like,

540
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. I'm leaving. I'm going somewhere safer,

541
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm going somewhere where I feel more welcome.

542
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

543
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: Look, my mom is a petit woman and she used

544
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: to ride the subway all the time and for the

545
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: last you know, seven or eight years or so, and

546
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: I have to ask her when she'd really say she

547
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: started to feel this. But really, the de Blasio Yeah

548
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: Blasia administration doesn't feel safe in the subway anymore. It

549
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 3: has to avoid it, you know, as tries to absolutely

550
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: avoid it. And that's just like I said that as

551
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: an indicator, and it was an indicator when the city

552
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: was really bad back in the in the late eight

553
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: in the late eighties, the early nineties was actually when

554
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: the city was by the numbers and it's absolute worse

555
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: ninety one, ninety two, nineteen ninety ninety one, ninety two,

556
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: and the subways were covered in graffiti. Member, you would

557
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: see these old images and movies too of like these

558
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: subway cars all covered in graffiti and there was scratch

559
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: graffiti and all of the windows and there were just

560
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: these marauding bands of you know, hoodlums who would rob people.

561
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: And you know, it's a lot of this stuff too,

562
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: doesn't even ever get reported. That's another part of this

563
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: or it doesn't get treated as a big deal. But

564
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: I mean, imagine you're on the subway and you know,

565
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: perhaps even you're an elderly person and someone comes up

566
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: and you know, starts threatening you, cursing at you men

567
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: you know men is you?

568
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: Essentially?

569
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: You know, that's psychologically really damaging when you're just trying

570
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: to get from one place to another. And so many

571
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: people have those stories.

572
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it.

573
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, not everybody's gonna have a story where

574
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: they've been physically assaulted, but have you had a crazy

575
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: person spittle in your face while he's saying, you know,

576
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do something insane and like you're lucky I'm

577
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: not going to do this to you or whatever. Most

578
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: people who ride the subway in New York City, I

579
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: have those stories. Most people ride the subway in New

580
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: York have those stories.

581
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: The last time I went to New York with Laura,

582
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: my wife, I told her absolutely no uncertain terms. You

583
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: don't ride the subway, like even if you have to

584
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: take longer, get into an uber walk wherever you go.

585
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: And I feel like many people out there, if they

586
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: don't live in New York City, have had this experience

587
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: in whatever community you live in. The test that I

588
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: always put in play is do you feel do you

589
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with your wife, girlfriend, daughter, somebody who's relatively

590
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: young jogging in the neighborhood by themselves. I feel like

591
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: that's a really good test of it. Neighborhood and all night, right,

592
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean at night, I think is the real real test.

593
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: That's when you really know.

594
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Like right around you know, like people come home from

595
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: work right and it's like, hey, what are you.

596
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Gonna do now? I'm gonna put on my tennis shoes.

597
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go jog a few miles.

598
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: How many people out there have been apprehensive about their wife,

599
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: their dog. I'm not talking. I don't you and I

600
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: kind of feel differently. And this is my wife's big

601
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: attack on the whole trans community, the idea that you're

602
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: a real woman. It's like women think differently than like

603
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: you or I would, and a lot of the men

604
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: out there listening. Every time I go into a parking garage,

605
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't think at all about being in danger, Like

606
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't hold my keys like I'm gonna have to

607
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: stab somebody if they try to attack me. No one's

608
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna bother me.

609
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: When I'm jogging, I'm sweaty, I'm complaining, I smell bad,

610
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

611
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: No one's uh.

612
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: But but I think a lot of women out there

613
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: and they've started to speak out more. It's actually insulting

614
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: for you to claim, like, hey, I know what it's

615
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: like to be a woman when you're a grown man

616
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: who's like six foot two and you've never had to

617
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: actually live through the danger. Your mom's small. Producer Ali

618
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: is small, My wife Laura is small. Like if you're

619
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten pounds, it's your threat level is

620
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: different than somebody who frankly, you and I weigh a

621
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: lot more than one hundred and ten pounds.

622
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm working on a clay, but I'm definitely definitely north

623
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: of one hundred and ten pounds, that's for sure, Ali

624
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: says Bruser. Ali just texted us that she had a

625
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: crazy person in her subway car this morning's and.

626
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: You still Ali, you still ride it? Is it getting

627
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: any better? We'll ask her when we come back whether

628
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: whether or not. Like I mean again, the danger is

629
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: not made up.

630
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,400
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Speaker 5: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 3: Closing up shop today on Clay and Buck. Can't believe

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Speaker 3: Radio app. New version of it's out recently. By the way,

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Speaker 3: Subscribe to the podcast network. You'll see Sean Parnell, Tuter Dixon,

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Speaker 3: Carol Mark. It's all kinds of great stuff in that

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Speaker 3: podcast feed. And it's great listening over the weekend too,

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Speaker 3: when we're not live on the radio. So highly recommend

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Speaker 3: you go become a subscriber there and listen and it's free. Also,

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Speaker 3: got some calls wanted to get to you here. Doug

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Speaker 3: in Wisconsin wants to weigh in on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Doug?

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys playing buck, Thanks for taking my call. I

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Speaker 6: really appreciate it. You know, whenever anybody talks about TikTok,

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Speaker 6: they always talk in such glowing terms, and I get it,

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of good stuff out there, but nobody

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Speaker 6: ever talks about the negative side. I raised four daughters

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Speaker 6: from young without their mother, and they turned out really

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Speaker 6: great until he left college. And you know, three of

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Speaker 6: them are great concerns yet and my fourth daughter, she's

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Speaker 6: said daddy's girl was. Anyway, now we hardly talk. She

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Speaker 6: got on TikTok and she's just turned dark. She's so

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Speaker 6: liberal and talks about you know, what are that with

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Speaker 6: the women and their their their their rights, their reproductive rights.

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Speaker 6: It's all she wants to talk about, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: Wait to ask is she is she in college?

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Speaker 3: Because that I mean the college is probably an even

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Speaker 3: bigger factor in this than TikTok would be my guest.

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Speaker 2: But they can both work together to this And this.

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Speaker 6: Happened after college. She's up that foor now and it's

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Speaker 6: it's been yeah, and then I would say in the

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Speaker 6: last ten years. You know, it has to do with

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Speaker 6: the people she hangs with. I get that, you know,

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Speaker 6: But TikTok is where she gets your news from and

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Speaker 6: all the information, and man, I just I feel like

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Speaker 6: I've lost her. I really do well.

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Speaker 2: Get her to listen to Clay and Buck no straight.

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Speaker 1: I mean, thank you for the call. You can find

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Speaker 1: anything on TikTok. The reality is, I mean, my sons

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Speaker 1: are they love TikTok and they are getting very much

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Speaker 1: rightest content because their algorithm gives them that right Eighteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty nine year old men, young men overwhelmingly voted

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Speaker 1: a sense that young people are getting influenced in a

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Speaker 1: negative way by TikTok. How many followers does Trump have

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and now Buck like one hundred million?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's crazy. Yeah, I don't think it's a

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Speaker 3: hundred I think it's like fifteen million. But it's a lot,

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Speaker 3: all right, one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred million, fifteen million, it's a lot. But tomorrow will

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Speaker 1: be the final This is a great thing to get

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Speaker 1: to stay buck. Tomorrow will be the final show that

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Speaker 1: we do without Donald Trump as President of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I like it.

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Speaker 1: It's been along four years, been along four years, but

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Speaker 1: tomorrow is goodbye Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: So tomorrow's a celebration show. Everybody, come hang with us.