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This 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: was one of those episodes where there were a lot 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: of like meaningful sit down, I want to tell you 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: something moments, and so you're all at home, just sit down, 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you some stuff. What's gonna happen today. 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: It's a season three episode nineteen I Slept with someone 37 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: and fallout boy and all I got was a stupid 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: song written about me, which aired April twelve, two thousand six. 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Sofia tell him what they've won? What was the synopsis? Well, friends, 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: In this episode, Lucas is having a hard time getting 41 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: back on the court for the Ravens as they forfeit 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: a game, but he finally tells Whitey and Karen about 43 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: his heart condition. Uncle Cooper is in town and dating 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: a new twenty six year old model, supposedly from Tree Hill. 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Devi also returns and offers to help Karen get back 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: on her feet. We all burst into tears at that part, 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: and Nathan and Haley take a test to see if 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: they are a compatible couple. Peyton makes a decision about 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: who she wants to be with. Oh my god, chuck 50 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: full of spicy nuts. I don't know, spicy nuts, spicy 51 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: this will? You know? Did a great job. This was 52 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: her directorial debut, I believe on our show. Yeah, I 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: think so, I think just all together, I think this 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: was the first i'm she ever directed anything. Well, um, 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: I I don't really know where to start. I mean, well, 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: our episode begins with with Lucas quoting George Elliott, who 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: we were like, I hope people at home know that 58 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: George Eliott is a woman. It's a woman, a girl 59 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: named George, A girl named George. Very apropos for us. 60 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: I loved I loved that quote. You know, last week 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: we talked about our experiences with grief. And it's not 62 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: lost on me that that quote talks about the first 63 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: time you grieve and how hard it can be because 64 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: you have not yet experienced suffering and then the healing 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: um to have despaired and recovered hope, so you don't 66 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: know that there's hope on the other side of loss. 67 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: And to think back on, you know, not just how 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: young these characters are, but what it was like when 69 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: you experienced your first grief. It's a really profound observation, 70 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: and it it felt so fitting in that scene between 71 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: Lucas and Nathan, you know, when they debut the Keith 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Scott patches and the black jerseys and and everybody's just 73 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to process and carry this experience. 74 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: I thought it was gorgeous. This feels like this should 75 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: have been the last episode. Yeah, well joy. That was 76 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: my initial impulse to just like, wait a second, I 77 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: thought we had fun last week. And then the more 78 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: I thought about it, the more I was like, yeah, 79 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: grief is like the up and down and up and 80 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: down and up and down. Grief is instability, you know, 81 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: and so it's not linear. You're going to bounce back 82 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: and forth between like I'm okay, I'm not okay, And 83 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: to see Lucas do that. You know, we saw him 84 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: with his crowd last episode, and this episode begins with 85 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: him very much by himself, um and more. You know, 86 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: used the staging of these scenes to show him isolating, 87 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: and I've done that. I think we've all done that, right, yeah, 88 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: because you just don't it's so hard to figure out 89 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: where to put it grief, like where do you where 90 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: do you put it? What's shelf do you put it on? 91 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: And you have to keep taking it down to re 92 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: examine it and put it back on the same shelf, 93 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: maybe a different shelf. It's like emotionally, we're just kind 94 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: of it's just so hard to figure out where it goes, 95 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: how it fits in your new day to day life. 96 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: Um So I think we see some of that in 97 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: this episode. I love that his reaction was I respect 98 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: this game, I respect all of you. Tell me why 99 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: it matters right now? Like yeah, yeah, I went to 100 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: a point last year where everybody was dropping dead around 101 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: me and I nothing mattered, like and I would have 102 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: to fake it. I would have to be like, no, 103 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: this job is important or this thing that I have 104 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: to do is important, or going to this meeting is important, 105 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: and it was all pretend because your brain is just 106 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: like what are we doing? Um? So I think it's 107 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: important when we do heavy subject matter on our show 108 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: and we're modeling, we're modeling grief for the audience at 109 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: home that's also trying to figure out how to do it. 110 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: That's an important question, like why do these things matter? 111 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: M hmm yeah. And when you're in it, it is 112 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: very hard to feel anything outside of it, you know. 113 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: I remember having that feeling when I was in college. 114 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: My mom got sick and suddenly it was time to 115 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: take mid terms and I was taking theater classes and 116 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: creative writing, and I was like, are you all kidding? 117 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: What does this meant? You want to come to class 118 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: and take a test? Like everything felt so impossible to 119 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: care about because one of the people I care about 120 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: the most was in a period of an uncertain future. 121 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: And when you're it kind of I remember feeling like 122 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: I had been picked up and like dropped out of 123 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: my reality and into a different one. You know, when 124 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: you watch a nature show and like a giant bird 125 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: picks up a fish and then drops it, Like there 126 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: are outdoors women Sophia. When I was fly fishing in Montana, 127 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I felt like a fish that had 128 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: been grabbed by an eagle, and I was no longer 129 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: in a river that was dying in the rocks. Right. 130 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: But suddenly you're like where. I don't know how to 131 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: even get back to where I was? Like where was I? 132 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 1: Where am I now? And and it it does matter 133 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: so much when you can't feel it to have somebody 134 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: look at you and say, let me tell you what 135 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: is true, because you will come back to this even 136 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: if you can't be here now. And Whitey does that 137 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: for Lucas he serves as that tether two. I don't 138 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: want to say the real world, but to the connected world. 139 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: And I thought it was really beautiful, you know, to 140 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: to zoom out a little bit. Our show was amazing 141 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, but we certainly failed um 142 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: in terms of accurately representing the diversity or experience of 143 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: a place like North Carolina. And it was gorgeous to 144 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: have Whitey tell a story that felt so true. You know, 145 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: Barry at his age, having lived through the Civil rights 146 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: movement and you know all of all of these big 147 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: historical things that we often on the show would just 148 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: ignore our our historical truths to have him tell a 149 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: story that is so representative of the fact that it 150 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: is often sports art music that breaks barriers, that welcomes 151 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: people in first. However imperfectly. You know, those are often 152 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: the the arenas where people have been welcomed first. And 153 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: it I was just really I was really happy to 154 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: see that we did that. It was a conversation that 155 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: did kind of feel out of the blue. But when 156 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: we consider what was going on in North Carolina at 157 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: the time we were filming this um, there was well 158 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: so in Wilmington's specifically during the civil rights movement there 159 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: there was like there were huge race riots in Wilmington's 160 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: UM in like the sixties, right, and there was a 161 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: group called the Wilmington's Ten. They had tried to integrate 162 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: the schools and UM. I would encourage anyone to do 163 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: a deep dive on this history because it really is astounding. 164 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: But Wilmington's Ten sent to prison. They were accused of, 165 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, inciting violence and all these things, UM, when 166 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: really they were fighting for the freedom of their community. 167 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: And while we were filming the governor we had at 168 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: the time, Bev Perdue, finally officially pardoned them. You know, 169 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: they've been living with like these felonies. And it was 170 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: also the time period where, um, the eighteen massacre was 171 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: still being called like the race war, so that difference, 172 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't a race war. Now the language makes such 173 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: a difference. The language makes a huge difference. And it 174 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: was when the memorial for that was going up in Wilmington's. 175 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: So while we were filming our show, it was the 176 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: first time Wilmington's was really kind of reckoning with their 177 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: own history and we were surrounded by that, and it 178 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: was very new, and everyone was very kind of trepidacious 179 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: about like, what's what's the new language? What do we say? 180 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: How do we acknowledge this? You know um? Because it 181 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: is hard to call your parents or your grandparents or 182 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: just the generations before you on the carpet and be like, hey, 183 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: you guys, got um. But it's an important thing to do. 184 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: And so we were living in Wilmington's during a really 185 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: interesting time in their history. So this conversation feels very 186 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: you know relevant. If anyone hasn't been on the Wilmington's 187 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: In Color tour, there's an amazing tour that takes you 188 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: all over Wilmington's on a bus and shows you all 189 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: these amazing historic sites that were ignored right up until 190 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: when we were shooting our show and people started finally 191 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: paying attention. That's great. I didn't know they were doing that. Yeah, 192 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: it's really cool. I love that. Will you guys recount 193 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: a little bit about that conversation that Whitey has with 194 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: Lucas Um not just for our listeners, but also for 195 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: me a bit because I went downstairs to make a 196 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: cup of coffee and I had somebody in the house 197 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: who was talking to me, and I was trying to 198 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: listen to the episode, but also and I really want 199 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: to be a part of the conversation that we're having. 200 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: But love it. Yeah. So, you know, Whitey, when Lucas says, 201 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: tell me why this game is important, tells the story 202 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: of how he got his nickname and talks about being 203 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: a young boy on a high school team that was 204 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: called the best team in town, but they knew there 205 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: was a better team and it's the team who's gym 206 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: they're playing in that faded logo of the Monarchs. As 207 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: the story goes, the Monarchs were Entree Hill, you know, 208 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: lower per our writers, the Black basketball team, and the 209 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: black players and white players were kept completely segregated and 210 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: we're not allowed to play each other. And they hosted 211 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: a game. They essentially, like you know, went outside of 212 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: the schedule and and hosted a game and played. And 213 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: I have chills thinking about it. And so there's Barry 214 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: Corbin as Whitey looking at Lucas talking about how he 215 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: grew up and what the history was, and that they decided, 216 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, both teams to cross this barrier and play, 217 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: and that the coach of the other team looked Barry 218 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: in the eye and said, I'll take Whitey, and he 219 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: said that's how I got my nickname. And I thought 220 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: about it hearing him say it, you know, today watching 221 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: the episode, because do y'all remember there was a diner 222 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: in Wilmington's called White And I know the lore was 223 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: that that's where Michael Jordan's used to like bus tables 224 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: when he was in his school. YEP. So it all 225 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: feels like, given the fact that the um truth was 226 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: being told finally about the history, that that demands to 227 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: call it what it was, a race massacre, not to 228 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: call it a riot. You know, like we said, language matters, Um, 229 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: and even that you know the stories we grew up 230 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: in Wilmington's hearing about Michael Jordan and where he worked 231 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: and where he played and all those things. It feels 232 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: like they figured out a way to, obviously, in our 233 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: fictional story, um, bring in some things that could make 234 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: it all make sense for people. So how does that 235 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: connect with the Lucas is saying, why does this all matter? 236 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: So essentially what Barry, Barry what white he is saying 237 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: to Lucas is this is how much basketball matters. We 238 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: were a segregated state and we and we played together. 239 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: And he says to him, you know that night, we 240 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: weren't white players or black players. We were basketball players. 241 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: And and when I think about, you know what, as 242 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, what sports music, what we do? 243 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, acting has has meant when you think about 244 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: the legacy of Jackie Robinson, when you think about um, 245 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, blues players traveling around America during segregated times, 246 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: When you think about what it meant for you know, 247 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: Sydney Potier to become Sydney Pottier like it is. It 248 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: has often been in sports and creative industries where we 249 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: have pushed boundaries. And again, you know, there's a lot 250 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: of imperfection there, but it felt so impactful to watch 251 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: an adult say to a kid, this game that you're 252 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: trying to reconcile with can be the thing that moves culture. 253 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: It can heal history. You know that you can be 254 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: a part of something that's bigger than just showing up 255 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: and um and playing a game. It's not just a game. Yeah, 256 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: and Whitey says to Lucas, let the game heal you. 257 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: That's the perspective that I liked because it's age giving advice. 258 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's the kid who is playing the game, 259 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: Whitey at seventeen years old, getting that nickname, hanging out 260 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: in the gym, doesn't know that he's doing something that 261 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: will matter a lot to him as an old man. 262 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: He's just playing with a bunch of dudes. And then 263 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: it's as an old man, he's like, that meant a lot. 264 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: It meant so much, and so for Lucas. You know, 265 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: it's it's that advice of just put one foot in 266 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: front of another and the truth will reveal itself to 267 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: you in time. The healing will reveal itself to you 268 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: in time. You just have to go through the motions 269 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: right now, just do that and and the story will 270 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: unfold later. Um. That's so, that's such an intrinsic part 271 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: of healing from grief is just putting one ft in 272 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: front of the other. And we watch Karen do that 273 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: in this episode as well as she's finding her way. 274 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: How do I even just the action of slapping Whitey 275 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: when he comes in and he says, whose fault is 276 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: that that you didn't have Keith for longer than five minutes? Um, 277 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: It's an action. It's like forcing her to do something 278 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: instead of wander around in her robe and with the 279 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: clothes all over the apartment and not being, um there 280 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: for Lucas and not being there. Um. And I'm not 281 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to shame Karen's character in any way, 282 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: but that behavior is very normal for grief. UM. Probably 283 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: super necessary actually, but at some point you have to 284 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: step out of it. And I love that he gets 285 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: to be that voice of reason and love and uplifting 286 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: and just like, I'm going to force you out of 287 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: your comfort zone because you have to just keep moving um. 288 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: And he wouldn't have known that if he hadn't had 289 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: the life experience of doing that when he was a 290 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: young man and isn't it funny how the things that 291 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: we do when we're young that seemed like the hardest 292 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: choices that we have to make, The things that we 293 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: do that we think this is impossible, and then years 294 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: later it actually ends up being some something that has 295 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: the most impact on other people in our lives and 296 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: communities because we were able to trailblaze in one area 297 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: or another. I mean, I've had people in my life 298 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: who went through things in their youth that trail blazed 299 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: for me. So it's a huge blessing to be able 300 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: to have the weight of grief and carry carry yourself 301 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: and other people through that. Mm hmm. Karen saying I'm 302 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: going to need some help, Oh dude. That that was 303 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: the one that got me. That was right now, you 304 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: just heating it, dude. I felt it in my bones. 305 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: And then looking at each other that moment, those two 306 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: women seeing each other, I'm going to need a lot 307 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: of help. Good, You're going to get it. Yeah. Yeah. 308 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: It reminded me of running into your the both of 309 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: your arms after Willie Garson died, because it was just 310 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: a couple of days after that, we did our drama 311 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: queens Um live stream and Sofa brought me flowers and 312 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: Joy had brought me honey, and like, you know, it's 313 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: difficult for me to admit that I need help. And 314 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: so I love seeing that female friendship in our show. 315 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: I love it. It matters. It matters that we help 316 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: other women value that there's so many opportunities to be combative. 317 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: We see it with Brooke and Rachel in this episode, 318 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: and so to see the good soft stuff is so important. 319 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: Go hug your girlfriends. Yeah, well, And I think it's 320 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: also it's modeling that learning, you know, because something the 321 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: three of us have in common is we really like 322 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: to help the people we love, and we're all not 323 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: great at asking for help for ourselves. Never never, ever, 324 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I like that Our love language is 325 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: I know you're not going to ask me for this, 326 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: but here's the you know, whether it's a coffee or 327 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: flowers or a random our text message or whatever like, 328 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: And it's those it's those acts of love that I 329 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: think have allowed us to become the friends who can 330 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: look at each other and say, I do need this, 331 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: Can you help me here? Will you talk to me now? 332 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: Whatever it might be, And and I love seeing that. 333 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: Dev just says I'm going to do it, and whenever 334 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: she's ready, I'm going to be here. And finally, at 335 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: the end of the episode, Karen comes in and essentially says, 336 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm ready now. That is that is a whole love language. 337 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: It's clear that dev just got through like her boozy 338 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: therapy or whatever she's been doing has she understands glowing, 339 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: but she also knows like you can scream at me, 340 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. It's so 341 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: hard to ask for help, even even in grief when 342 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: it's like, of course it's the most obvious, or in injury, guys. 343 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: I just I fell through a hole I met. It's 344 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: a long story, but I really jacked up my foot. 345 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: It looks like I went and put my foot through 346 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: a joint garbage disposal, Like it's all sliced up. Where 347 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: did you fall through a hole in my house? It's 348 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: a bbe. Do we need to pick around your listen? 349 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: My point is I've really messed up my foot and 350 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: I had to travel three airports in two days um 351 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: two days after afterwards, and it was really deep cuts, 352 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: like the kind of cut that like when on medical 353 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: show when they slice open you can like open up 354 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: the skin and see down and the muscle. It was 355 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: like a deep but I should have gotten stitches, but 356 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: I didn't because it was eight o'clock at night and 357 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not, like, I don't want to 358 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: ask for help. I'm fine, put a band aid on it. Fine, yeah, 359 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: give me some super glue. I'm fine. Um. And it 360 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: was healing, but you know, gingerly. And so I had 361 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: to I had to travel through these three airports with assistance, 362 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: and it was really hard for me to just like, 363 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: I just want to do things myself. I don't want 364 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: to inconvenience anyone. I don't want anybody to feel like 365 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm uh, I don't know. It's a pride thing, like 366 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: I want to prove that I can do things myself 367 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: all the time. Like what is that, Well, it's a 368 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: it's a don't think it's a mom thing. Don't be 369 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: a baby, don't be a sister girl, be a tough girl. 370 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. I also think it can be a 371 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: bit of a reaction to what we do for a living. 372 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: We show up where people tell us to. When they 373 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: tell us to, we say what they tell us to. 374 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: We eat when they say we can we pe when 375 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: they tell us there's enough of a break to like 376 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: make it all the way to the bathroom and all 377 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: the way there. There is very little autonomy. Don't plan 378 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: a vacation because you can't go on it. If they 379 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: say you can't go, oh, I'm sorry. You can't go 380 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: to the dentists until we wrap for this season? Are 381 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: you sorry? Like there's no time for you to go 382 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: business hours? And so I think there's really something too they, 383 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: especially for independent people like the three of us, to 384 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: like I can do it, I can do all of it. 385 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: I got it, don't touch it, leave me alone. I'm fine. 386 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: I think we we crave being able to do things 387 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: ourselves because so much of our work life is so 388 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: far outside of our control. So it can make I 389 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: mean you, I mean the collective you, but certainly me 390 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: how I'm raising my hand at this whatever anonymous meeting 391 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: we're at like, I'm like, I got it, don't touch it. 392 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: And sometimes people I love are like, are you okay? 393 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: Why are you doing that? I'm like, I'm sorry. That 394 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: is so interesting. So we've we've developed control issues because 395 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: of the circumstance. I think job that is so interesting 396 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: because that makes me think of when I'm on set. 397 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: How you know how much actors hate a line reading 398 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: when anybody interfered. I don't generally, I've kind of gotten 399 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: over it at this point. I'm like, yeah, just tell 400 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: me how you want me to say it. However, I'll 401 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: make it my eye. Everybody wants to go home, just 402 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: tell me what to do. But especially when you're young 403 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: and you're finding your way and your artist's voice and 404 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: you just want to yeah, when somebody else tells you 405 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: how to And I used to get so worked up 406 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: about it. It It was like, don't tell me where to stand, 407 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: don't tell me how to say it. I'm going to 408 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: do it my way because it was the only space 409 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: that I had to just be free. So I was 410 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: very protective over my free spaces. And I think that 411 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: is really interesting that maybe why it's a lightbulb moment. Sophia, 412 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: thank you any time I've I've thought about this a lot, 413 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: and and it is really interesting, right, like the fact 414 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: that nothing in your life when you are on set 415 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: can you not only can you control, can you have 416 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: any input on at all? Except your work. I mean 417 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: when the cameras start rolling, then you're free. When the 418 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: curtain goes up, you're free, yes, but I just mean 419 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: the circumstances of your life, Like you cannot make a 420 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: decision about when to leave your home. Somebody's there telling 421 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: you where where you live. Like it's all it's so 422 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: much of it is dictated for us. And so I 423 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: think it's why we can be very territorial or protective 424 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: about our autonomy because there's just not a lot of 425 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: avenues for it. Is that every job though, Like if 426 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: you work, if you're an accountant, if you work a 427 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: desk job and you're like labeling blood samples at the 428 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: medical whatever facility, like, don't you still have to you 429 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: have hours, you have to show up. You have to 430 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes your job is location specific, Um you 431 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: still have to. Uh, I don't know, there's lunch breaks. Yeah, 432 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: but Joy, all these all these young kids are quiet 433 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: quitting now, you know, Like the youngsters aren't following those 434 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: rules anymore. God bless, they're just like we quit all 435 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: those rules that you like Gen X millennials follow, don't 436 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: be ridiculous. Yeah, it's interesting. I have like one person 437 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: who's not in our industry that I get to talk 438 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: to about this. My one of my best friend's sisters 439 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: works in a corporate job where every year she has 440 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: to move because of the track she's on for training 441 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: because she's going to have like a very high powered, 442 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: important job soon. And she's like, oh my god, I 443 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: have no one I convent to about this. I'm like, well, 444 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: you need more actor friends, babe, because we'll get We'll 445 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: go to a meeting, and it's like, okay, well, in 446 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: six days, you're moving to Canada and you have to 447 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: figure it out, you know. So, yes, of course everybody 448 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: has parameters, but not everybody's parameters or as batshit crazy 449 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: as her industry. And there exactly, it's like you're going, sorry, oh, 450 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: for the next six weeks, you're just going to be 451 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: awake only at night. Good luck to you. Like girl, 452 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: it just is what it is, okay. Well. I also 453 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: think some of the aspect of the control is that 454 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: when you are on set and someone is brushing your 455 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: hair and someone was doing your makeup, and someone is 456 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: putting clothes on you and maneuvering those clothes in between 457 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: every take so that it matches the take before and 458 00:27:53,520 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: you're being handled all the time, it can be I say, masculating, 459 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: but but for women too. It takes your power away 460 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: and it makes you feel pretty and like like a baby, 461 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, And I want so badly to prove that 462 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: I can do it all. I can do it. So 463 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: on my show that I do for Sunday, there's no 464 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: hair and makeup team, there's nobody that's like holding cue 465 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: cards from it. Like I was just like I could 466 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: do it all myself, and I look terrible and I 467 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: am wearing awful clothes that are right out of my closet, 468 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: and I keen love it because I did it myself. 469 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: And so it's like it's like a kindergartener that's like, no, 470 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: I can dress myself. I realized that I'm my four 471 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: year old daughter. That's like, what was that character on 472 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: Mad TV Stewart? I can do it. I can do it. 473 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Well, speaking of like evolving as 474 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: a human, we have to address the Rachel storyline because 475 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: it's an evolutionary thing. I feel very conflicted about Um, 476 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: it's conflicting because of the bts on our show. It's 477 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: not like I appreciate that any I mean, I'm always 478 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: conflicted about somebody who wants to change who they are 479 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: because it's who you are, but if you I also 480 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: appreciate that, like if a girl's like I don't know, 481 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: she wants to get a nose job, get a nose job, 482 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: if it makes you feel better about yourself, like I 483 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean joy, I agree. It's a context 484 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: of what's going on behind the scenes and knowing the 485 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: whole thing with our boss and like the way like 486 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of I think where the conflict for me 487 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: mostly lies. Did it have to be a wait thing? 488 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: Like what if Rachel had like a big mole removed, 489 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: or what if she had like teeth that she didn't 490 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: like or like it just always boiled down to wait 491 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: with our boss. And it's such a cheap card to play, 492 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: and it's inappropriate it and it could have been handled 493 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: in such a beautiful way where you see a girl 494 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: who's actually looks great and healthy and fine and she 495 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: has this I'm spitballing. I don't know. I mean, maybe 496 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: I'll go off track, and I hope I won't, but um, 497 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, if she she goes you know, we see 498 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: Daniel who's beautiful and you know, has this amazing health 499 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: about her as well. Um, but who talks about like 500 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: why did I the way that I saw myself in 501 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: the mirror. I went through all of this transformation. I 502 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: went through so much pain because I didn't accept who 503 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: I was and love who I was, And so I 504 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: tried to love myself by changing myself in all these 505 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: ways instead of just loving who I am. Um. I 506 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: feel like that would be such an interesting journey to watch. 507 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: I think it would be really interesting for someone to say, oh, 508 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: I thought if I changed myself physically, i'd feel different. 509 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: I feel the same. I just looked different that what 510 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm That's exactly, you know, like that. I've heard people 511 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: say that, whether it's about by the way, something cosmetic 512 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: or even like I colored my hair and I, you know, 513 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: cut it all off and I did it, and like 514 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't feel any different. When when people move sometimes 515 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: they say that, you know, I thought if I moved 516 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: to X, I would feel different. And turns out like 517 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: when you take where everything there are, yeah, there you are, 518 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: you take, you take your belongings, and you take your 519 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: problems like congratulations. I think it bothered me about this. Again, 520 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be sixteen, you know, we were all 521 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: in our mid twenties. But the paint brush that that 522 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: man sort of used to paint this storyline. The things 523 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: that they're talking about, gastric bypass, you know, implants, a 524 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: nose job, and a bunch of other surgeries. She says, like, 525 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: these are massive, the massive procedures that carry life threatening risk, 526 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: and and they talked about them as ignorantly and casually 527 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: as you know. Lindsay Graham talks about pregnancy like, pregnancy 528 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: is a miracle. If you want to be a parent, 529 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: it is what an unbelievable thing, Like, you guys gave 530 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: birth to some of my favorite humans. They are human 531 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: beings that are on the planet that didn't exist before 532 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: you made them, Like, hello, it's a miracle. What drives 533 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: me crazy is when men talk about pregnancy like it's 534 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: just a casual stroll to the grocery store. And I'm like, 535 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: do you want to know that the number one cause 536 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: of aortic dissection in women under forty, Like, we're literally 537 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: the largest artery in your body just explodes pregnancy, So 538 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: let's be clear that the miracle comes with danger. I 539 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: don't like when we treat like massive things that women 540 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: go through as casual, and so this irks me in 541 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: the same way yes, because the way we see ourselves 542 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: in the mirror is a big thing. Yeah, I'm like, 543 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: she didn't color her hair. You're saying she like opened 544 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: up and cut up her body and broke her own bones. 545 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: And you're acting like she went to the mall and 546 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: bought a pair of shoes and and she's supposed to 547 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: be sixteen. Like, can we have a second to to 548 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: your point, joy, like having a deeper conversation about what 549 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: society has done to us as girls and women to 550 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: make us no matter what we look like. I feel 551 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: like the way we look is wrong. Well, if you 552 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: notice mouth's hole like diet tribe is I I, I, 553 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: I I I and Lee God bless him. Sold It 554 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: did a great job with the subject matter. But rather 555 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: than focus on the girl who has traumatized herself physically 556 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: and mentally, it's all about I could have loved that girl, 557 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: I I I I think you're great. I feel his way. 558 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: Maybe now that you actually were a nerd or are 559 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: still a nerd deep inside, you'll like me too. It's 560 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: all about him, which is how it's so basically the 561 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: behind the scenes that pisces us off. Is it basically 562 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: what our boss was saying is I'm mouth. I'm going 563 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: to speak through mouth. I don't need you to be 564 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: hot because I know what you know, like average girl, 565 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: you are inside, and I'll love you even though you 566 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: are average, and my validation should make you like yourself. 567 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: You you you you guys like skin crawl. By the way, 568 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: I would have thought an effective storyline was to see 569 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: Rachel like, not that different, but she thinks the picture 570 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: is terrible, Like, oh my god, that's what I'm saying. 571 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: It's all in her head, That's what I'm saying, because 572 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: what you see, you know, when you end up with 573 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: a eating disorder, what you see in the mirror is 574 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: completely different than what is actually there. It's totally warped. 575 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: And that would have been interesting to see her mortified 576 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: by an old photo that doesn't look that different and 577 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: to understand that that's what body dysmorphia, right right, Oh 578 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: my god, there's the woman. Where's the woman in the room? Yeah, 579 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: m well, anyway that said, I love watching like teen 580 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: shows now because this dumb body stuff is just so different, 581 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: Like I love I love how different it is for 582 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: our kids. You know, it's just a much different conversation. 583 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: So bravo. Yeah, it's you know, it's great that it's 584 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: great that it's a it's a really an awareness conversation 585 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: for girls now too that um, you know, I think 586 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: when we were younger, it was easy for it was like, oh, 587 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: don't eat that, you'll get fat. It was just said 588 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: and nobody you know what I mean, and you're like, 589 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: oh okay, and in everybody. We were reading all those 590 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: teen magazines and it was all about the language. Again. 591 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: The language was just so uh unhelpful. It was very 592 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: black and white. It was just like, of course there's 593 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: a concern, um, And I've I have my own child 594 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: and we've gone through our own journey of trying to 595 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: figure out the healthy ways to eat. And uh, you 596 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: know how, I know you've got healthy ways to eat 597 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: and things going on in your house too with your kids. 598 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: And for girls, because I'm raising a girl, it's become 599 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: really important that those conversations, especially during the pandemic, we're 600 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: all sitting around. We were sitting around and getting fat. 601 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: It was happening. There was like extra fat on our 602 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: bodies that we didn't need and that was killing our energy. 603 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: And to be able to like communicate to her, let's 604 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: get strong let's get healthy, let's have more energy. It 605 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with whether you look at what 606 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: you look like. It has to do with how you 607 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: feel and how you're energy is on the inside. And 608 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: I think it's also I can't imagine what it would 609 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: have been like to be in the moment where in 610 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: now when we were making our show, where it's like, also, 611 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: what is your body? Your bodies are built different, Like, 612 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, It's something that I actually think is very cool. Um. 613 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, she's a supermodel, but Emily Radatowski talks a 614 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: lot about this about what people think of her body 615 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: and the way people think they own her body because 616 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: her body is part of her work. And and she 617 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, I read this thing where she talked about 618 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: how she casts for her swimwear campaigns, and she's like, no, 619 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: I know what my body is. It's part of my job. Also, 620 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: I was just born like this. But she casts women 621 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: and like they'll be women with ten drastically different body types, 622 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: like thin women and big women, and and they're all 623 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: wearing the same bikini. And I'm like, thank you, because 624 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: all the trying ever showed, Yeah, all we were ever 625 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: shown was like the roxy moss Kate Moss, like it 626 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: was one kind of body and now it's like, no, 627 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: if you want to wear this bathing suit, put it 628 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: on your body, and then it's a bathing suit for 629 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: your body. You're welcome. I love I love that we're 630 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: finally and look, I'm not going to pretend the beauty 631 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: industry isn't like a toxic mess, but I just love 632 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,479 Speaker 1: that we're finally seeing people just be who they are. Yeah, 633 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: we've managed I mean in my house, we through that 634 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: period of suddenly becoming aware of our health, how food 635 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: affects our body and our energy levels and our strength. Um, 636 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: we've managed to sidestep the whole body dysmorphia issue that 637 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: we were just talking about where she just has no 638 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: awareness of it. She's just like happy and chill and 639 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: like you know she you know, when we talked about eating, 640 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't really want those carbs, and I'm 641 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: like why, She's like, because they slow me down. I 642 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: don't feel good when I eat him. I want him 643 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: in the morning. I want a good fat, Like, give 644 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: me an avocado. It's and it's because it's all about 645 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: the ingredients, the health, the energy. It's not about what 646 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: I look like, well, you want that those first conversations 647 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: to be with you and not some kid at school. 648 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: Because I a magdeal and Gus's friends. For whatever reason, 649 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: I have become a mom that other children text, and 650 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: I take it. I'm the like Jeffrey and I are 651 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: both getting text messages from Gus's friends at like odd hours, really, 652 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 1: and I love it, but it's it makes me nervous 653 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: because I'm like, am I giving good advice to these kids? 654 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: And I found out that there's a pack of girls 655 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: at Gus's school who count their calories at lunch and 656 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: if you eat more than a hundred calories, you know, 657 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: like it's like this whole thing. And so I've got 658 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: them coming there and be like some moms are really 659 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: tender with it, and they're like, hey, this is bad. 660 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: You know, we don't do this, and I am more 661 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: of a hamm mer and I'm just like, that's bullshit. 662 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't like it. You told the only girls I 663 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: said it's bullshit. You know, like, I don't know how 664 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: to handle it necessarily other than to be like angry 665 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: about it. Um, but it's happening right now with our kids, 666 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: and you want their first conversations about that to be 667 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 1: with a grown up that they trust, Um, Rachel having 668 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: to talk about it with mouth and and make light 669 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: of it. So it's to kind of be like, it's fine, 670 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: I like myself, this is who I am. Um. I 671 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: didn't like that. He kept being like, you don't like yourself, 672 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: You don't like yourself. I know you don't like yourself. 673 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: I see through you. Yeah, that bug me. It was 674 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: also creepy to me and you you said it. You know, 675 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: this was a storyline in this episode where our boss 676 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: was trying to talk to a girl he had a 677 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: crush on and doing it through another character, and it 678 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: was gross and it was it was It was a 679 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: heavy episode for that influence because he also cast himself 680 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: as Pete Wentz's manager to talk to you on the phone. Yeah, 681 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: hearing his voice like you guys, I started sweating. I 682 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: got like nauseous. I haven't had to hear that voice 683 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: in a long time, honestly, like like I haven't heard that. Um. Yeah, 684 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: that was gross and that was gross. And it's like 685 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: you're at five year old dude who's married, So sorry 686 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: to her, but you know, what are you doing? Like 687 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: why why are you doing this with a bunch of 688 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: twenty year old kids that you employ. Like, it's like 689 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, but any other show it's fine. 690 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: It's it's you know, creators do make cameos all the 691 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: time and shows. It's not a big deal. It's just 692 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: when they're like, sorry, maybe I know no quiet part 693 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: out loud. No, that is my point though, the context 694 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: that's the throwing us off here. Yeah, it's yucky. It 695 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 1: does not hold up what else happened in this episode. 696 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm trying because we were. We were did 697 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: such a nice job directing. I love that scene in 698 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: the gym where the slow mos stuff slow basketball. Who 699 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: knew it was gorgeous in that old gym. It was 700 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: so vintage looking and just and like that beautiful shot. 701 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: She did this amazing shot of Nathan coming down the 702 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: court to make that basket, and then it cut to 703 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: Lucas walking out of the gym, but they were basically 704 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: walking the same path but like he was. Nathan was 705 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: still on the court and Lucas was walking out, but 706 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: they were in a line. That was beautiful, very cool. 707 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: That must have been so hard to shoot, Like, yeah, 708 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: to have those double doors open wide up and to 709 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: be calling action on the inside and have Chad on 710 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: the outside. And you know, I likeegraphy, the ambitious shots 711 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: that my too well. And you know, we had guys 712 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: on the crew with like fishing line pulling those doors open. 713 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: Chad walked out of them like they just kept opening, 714 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: and like that was fully a nice little sneak. You 715 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: also want to talk about Larry's dad moment. Thank you. 716 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: It was so good, you guys. Literally my post it 717 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: says Larry is the best dad. I love being parented. 718 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: I love it so much. I forced myself to go 719 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: get a facial the other day and this older woman 720 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: called me my darling and my sweet girl the whole time, 721 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 1: and you guys, she had to wipe the tears out 722 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: of my eyes because I was just like, okay, thank you. 723 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: So this energy, this Larry energy, like I wish we'd 724 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: had it all the time. Because the response of Peyton 725 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: and Brook is like perfect. We've seen these kids doing 726 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: all this growing up. We're going to bars, we're going 727 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: to sun kiss parties, we're drinking, we're you know, holding 728 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: up with rock stars whatever, and then all of a sudden, 729 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: we're kids. It's again. It just brings it, brings it 730 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: right back down to earth, and yeah, we're getting curfus 731 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: and we're getting some instruction. He's talking about what kind 732 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: of man would be good enough for his daughter, for 733 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: these girls, what you should be looking for. You know 734 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: when when when you guys have that final scene and 735 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: he says he wants you to pick someone because of 736 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: what he is, not what he does. Oh, it's it's 737 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 1: beautiful and and it is the parenting that's been missing 738 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: for That's that's what got me. It was that's what's 739 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: been missing because Karen hasn't been able to parent, Barbara 740 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: has been gone. Keith has always been that voice, that 741 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: parenting voice everyson, there's a void and we needed that. 742 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: I was like thirsty for it, and I didn't know 743 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: it until he said, listen, here's the rules. This is 744 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: how it's gonna go. And by the way, boundaries chefs 745 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: kiss him, walking over and opening the closet door and saying, Brook, 746 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: you need to find another hot dad fantasy and then 747 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: walking out of the room. Dude, I was embarrassed, so embarrassing, 748 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: I was like turning red by the way I turned red. 749 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: But I also was like, Larry, you're still hot. I'm 750 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: watching you be hot right now. I don't know what 751 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, spoiler for the end of the episode. It 752 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: all you know, he gives all those like fabulous speeches 753 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: and he's like love a guy for the man he 754 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: is right, and it's just like, okay, daddy. You know, 755 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 1: like you can tell that Peyton has a dad thing 756 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: because the next closest thing to her dad is Jake. 757 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: The girl Dad's like, it's that dad, It's like but 758 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: it was no contest. It was like, Yeah, why am 759 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: I going to go fly to hang out with some 760 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: rock star who buys me a ticket and expects me 761 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: a high school or to get on a plane and 762 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: come hang out and wait for him backstage with his groupies? 763 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean, when that's what I would have gotten out 764 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: of it. Why would I do that when there's a 765 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: perfectly good, exactly who my dad is talking about man 766 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: waiting for me. Yeah. And I think it's Larry's speech 767 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: about who you want to be with and what kind 768 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: of relationship you want to be in and and what 769 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: really makes it worth it that makes Payton admit to herself, 770 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to move on from Jake. Why don't 771 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: I just go get Jake. Yeah, he respects her. Jake's 772 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: always respected Peyton. You know, it's like, oh you like 773 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: someone else, Okay, cool. But She's like, if I'm about 774 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: to get on a plane, if I'm actually willing to 775 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: get on a plane for a guy, who's the guy 776 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: I'm willing to get on a plane for? It? Like 777 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: al screwed up? Was it though that she took the 778 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: Pete went sticket and went to look up with a 779 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: different dude? Did she get that? No, she totally takes. 780 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: Like Pete leaves her a ticket at the airport and 781 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: she just, you know, transfers the plane somewhere else. That's 782 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: that's such a high school girl move right, Like it 783 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 1: don't get me in trouble is my thing. It's like, dude, like, 784 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: don't get me in trouble. That means that you don't 785 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: respect me. You don't respect my dad. Like Pete should 786 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,959 Speaker 1: have called dad and been like, there's gonna be around 787 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: the whole time and you can come to if you 788 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: want to. Mr Sawyer up to the house in a 789 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: limo one in the morning or whatever. Come on, Yet, 790 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: poor Pete. Did anything else happen in this episode? There 791 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: was something I'm forgetting right now. There was a thing 792 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: Nathan and Haley didn't really do anything, laid in bed 793 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,280 Speaker 1: and your little relation. Oh, I know, it's the Rachel 794 00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: line about her age with Cooper. Cooper says, I'm dating 795 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: this twenty six year old model. She's back from New York, 796 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: how sitting for her family? And then it's Rachel, don't 797 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: don't I loved them together? Um, they had great chemistry. Yeah? Yeah? Well, 798 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: and also I feel really cheated that we didn't get 799 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: Cooper in the later years for Brooke to hook up with, 800 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: because that would have just complicated the whole Rachel Brooke 801 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: Cooper love triangle. So fine, it would have been so fun. 802 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: I was ever ever ever Oh my god, he's so cool, 803 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: but he also has to sit down and have an 804 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 1: after school special. Honestly, Brooke got robbed of Cooper and mouse. Yeah. Interesting, 805 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 1: they took all your toys and gave them to Rachel. 806 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: Are you a little bit? Are you just? I mean, 807 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm mostly upset that that they wanted me in Danille 808 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: to fight all the time because we had so much 809 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 1: fun together. But you know, I couldn't would have shut up. 810 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: Those are my what ifs. Okay, Rachel Cooper mouth, those 811 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: are brooks? What ifs? Good? Yeah? Man. Then I definitely 812 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: lied about my age when I met Jeffrey, So there's 813 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: a part of me that sympathized you did. I told 814 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: him I was thirty because I was never going to 815 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: see him again. I was like, whatever, alright, see you later, boss. 816 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: And so then when we were together for a couple 817 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: of months and it was my birthday, Nick, my best 818 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 1: friend who you guys know from Wilmington's, was like, twenty 819 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 1: seven club and jeffs real funny, what are you gonna 820 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: be twenty something forever? And I was like, oh no, 821 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: I messed up. I'm twenty seven for real. Um, which 822 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: is majorly different than lying and saying you're twenty six 823 00:49:55,239 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: when your seventeen. Yeah, a little different. What you know, 824 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: Rachel's Rachel, Rachel's going to Rachel's going to Rachel girl stuff. 825 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad we have a bad girl. Um yeah, what 826 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: else did happen? I don't know. I can't think of 827 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: anything else. Well, you know what is interesting? And I 828 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: thought that Lee did such a beautiful job with this. 829 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: We are in this Brooke and Rachel conflict thing, and 830 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: you know, this terrible writing with these photos trying to 831 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: I just that bothered me so much. I still get 832 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: that nauseous feeling that I had when I read it, 833 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't want to do this. 834 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to be you know, this girl bullying 835 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: another girl. I think that this is horrible, but you know, 836 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: we don't have control over this. Commit to the material, 837 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: and you gotta commit. And it really hit me when 838 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: Mouth yells at Brook and says, did you learn nothing 839 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: from Jimmy's death? You know this idea that we have 840 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: to be kinder to each other? And and there is 841 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: really something I think when you're young and someone has 842 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: hurt you or betrayed you where you want to you 843 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: want to get back at them sports And for Mouth 844 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: to say like, we're supposed to have learned, We're supposed 845 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: I know she's done all this terrible ship too, it 846 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We're supposed to have learned to not be 847 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: like this to each other. And you know, I thought 848 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: that that was beautiful. And for as much as the 849 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: writing he was given in those scenes with her was 850 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: very flawed, it definitely makes it so sad when he 851 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: shows up at our house at the end, and Brooks right, 852 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: and just like that hit me for for mouth, Brooks 853 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 1: definitely right. I mean it was not lost on me 854 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: that what was going on behind the scenes was, you know, 855 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: Danielle had started dating her husband, like the super hot, nude, 856 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: super hot dude that everyone had a crush on, and 857 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: our boss was like, I will be the girl that 858 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: brings flowers and you reject me, and everyone's going to 859 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: be on my side. You're gonna look like real asshole 860 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 1: for not picking me. And then we were like, no, 861 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:15,280 Speaker 1: that's yeah, I know, and I know that you didn't 862 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: like that Brooke went down that road for this episode, 863 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: but I like it for Brooke for the sake of 864 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 1: character consistency that she lives out loud, she lives messy, 865 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: and that's how we learn and grow. No one is perfect. 866 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: You have to make those kinds of mistakes that are 867 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: hard and embarrassing and you look back on you cringe. 868 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean so many moments like that in my life. 869 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have grown if I didn't make stupid 870 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: mistakes and hurt people's feelings and like do dum well 871 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: and if people who love you, It's like we all 872 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: need the mouth in our life. That's like, you mean, 873 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: an asshole? Yeah, you know, taking it too far? Yeah, 874 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: because sometimes you need somebody to look at you and say, 875 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 1: I get that you're in pain. That doesn't mean you 876 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 1: should put your pain on other people. M h. And 877 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: we we need that and and yeah, enjoy. You're right. 878 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 1: It's I think some of the things that were so 879 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: gringe e to me that Brooke had to do, we're 880 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: also really important for her to do, because it's not 881 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: just that we need people to model good things for us. 882 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: We need people to model bad things for us so 883 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: that we don't do those things. Yeah, that's right, especially 884 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: people that we love, Characters that we love who we 885 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: can see them have flaws just like us. So it's like, Okay, 886 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: I love her and she messes up. I can love 887 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: myself because I mess up, but it's all right. Yeah, 888 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: And you know, let's do a listener question. What do 889 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: we got? We have one here that says it's from 890 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: Anne Hi ann. Oh. This is funny because I said 891 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: this when it came on. I said, oh, it's nice 892 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: to hear Gavin's voice again. She asks, when you hear 893 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: Gavin Degrass song, I don't want to be which wasn't 894 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 1: what I was talking about in this episode was a 895 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: different song with Heap. Anyway, she said, what is your 896 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: relationship to the song? How do you feel when the 897 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: song suddenly comes on the radio. Do you get emotional happy? 898 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: Sad um? I want to turn it off immediately, do 899 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: you really? I'm just like, I don't want to think 900 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: about it. It is like the number one grocery store song, 901 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: like number one babe, immediately embarrassed. I feel like they're 902 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: popping us, like when we're going Yeah, when it comes on, 903 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: You're like, is this happening on purpose? What's going on? 904 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: Who's who's up there? Who's up there in like the 905 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,919 Speaker 1: grocery store office looking through that two way mirror, like 906 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: the one Tree Hill cast members have landed. Play the 907 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: song now listen. So I was driving Gus to school 908 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,760 Speaker 1: the other day and there's that pop two KS serious 909 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: radio station, and they're talking about how they're going to 910 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: start like playing soundtracks from the two zones and they 911 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: list like ten things I Hate about You from the 912 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 1: like late nineties, two thousands. They're listing all these movies 913 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh, yeah, cool, that's laps cool. Yeah, 914 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: I'm into this, and then they said what Tree Hill 915 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: And they were like, our favorite soundtracks and you know 916 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: you hear like a Little Happened to Grow soundclip. I 917 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: was like, guys, we made it. We made the Cool 918 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: Kids soundtrack made it. I like it. It's funny. I 919 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: can't imagine it being sad. It's definitely context dependent. But 920 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, oh, that's usually how I feel. It's 921 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: a little like cutie. Um. I feel that too, But 922 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 1: then I want to turn it off. I'm like, but 923 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to listen to the whole thing. It's 924 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 1: like when Stars Go Blue comes on, it's like, okay, 925 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: turn it off. Yeah, I get that. I think if 926 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, if someone sends me a funny, I feel 927 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 1: like we send these to each other all the time, 928 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: like a you know, some Instagram reel or like a 929 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: TikTok or something, and the song is on it and 930 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: it's hilarious, Like I can't get enough of I don't 931 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: think it's amazing. If we're in public, I eat the 932 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 1: grocery store immediately, I'm like, is anyone waiting for me? Like? 933 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: If I see someone looking at me when the song 934 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: comes on in public, then I'm mortified because I'm like, 935 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what reaction you want for me, and 936 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you the one you want 937 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: because I can't read your mind and I have to 938 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: disappear now into the hole in the floor that I'm 939 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: going to will to appear. But for my exit, what 940 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: if for arguments sake, from this moment on, we do 941 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 1: the exact opposite, Like what if from now on we 942 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: want to do just air guitar like a flash mob 943 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: where we are just marching up and down the aisles 944 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: of the grocery store, singing it loud, bringing in everyone else. 945 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: I feel like we should just go big or go 946 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: home at this point, like, yeah, you know the words 947 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:57,439 Speaker 1: sitting with me, what can you imagine? Oh my god, 948 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 1: can you imagine any other show like the actor hearing 949 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,919 Speaker 1: their theme song in the grocery store being like, oh 950 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: my god, I love this song. This is my show. Yeah, 951 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: we have to have a better sense of humor. Al right. 952 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 1: From here on out, I'm gonna we're gonna go Instagram 953 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: live next time we hear that's it, Instagram Live immediately, 954 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: no matter what. The grocery store and they're playing our song, 955 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: it's happening. We maybe upset ourselves up there whale, somebody 956 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: spin a wheel and I deal with fortune. Most likely 957 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: to save you from a bad blind date, either of 958 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: you girls. Honestly, you'd both be really good at it 959 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 1: in totally different ways. I've done it. Oh yeah, yes, 960 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I probably I mean, no offense Hillary. 961 00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: I probably would call Sophia. She's better, She's a better liar. Yeah, 962 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: I just like, you know what it is for me, Like, 963 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: don't ask me to help you plan a surprise party. 964 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: I'll screw it up. But if if I can help, 965 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: like if that's can't counsel mode for me, I'm like, 966 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: how are you doing? What time is it? Let's make 967 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: a plan. I'll set an alarm on. This is what 968 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to text you, and if you answer this way, 969 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: I know you're happy. And if you answer this way, 970 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: I know it's going badly. And then what I'm gonna 971 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 1: do is it's like a choose your own adventure book 972 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: that we're writing in real time, Like what is more 973 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: fun than I'm just gonna text you B B D 974 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 1: and the name of the restaurant or whatever it is. 975 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: That's it. I feel like you would have like a 976 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: helicopter with a rope ladder like within like, you know, 977 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: fourteen minutes, the restaurant's gonna bring me a phone, a 978 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 1: rotary phone, to the table and be like you've got 979 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: a call. You have a call Mam on the landline? 980 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yes, yeah, it's probably I mean, it's 981 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: probably also a brook Davis skill set. Um, although like 982 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: like a twine on is oh good call? Yeah. I 983 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: mean Antoine put me in my very first Uber ever 984 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 1: and that blew my mind. It was like years ago 985 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: in Paris, and he was like, we have to get 986 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: you out of this situation. And he was like, I'm 987 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: gonna order a car on my phone with this new 988 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: fangled thing called Uber. And I was like, what are 989 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: you talking about? Like, am I going to get home alive? Yeah? 990 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he just like it had gotten 991 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 1: overwhelming where we were and next thing you know, I'm 992 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: like safely tucked into my room and Anson handled it. 993 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: I love Antoine. Yeah, yeah, you can count on him. Yeah, 994 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: he's definitely a person that you know you can call 995 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: he's ready. Yeah, that's it. Um, alright, guys, I feel 996 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: like this was a good episode. I'm glad we sorted 997 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: out all the after school special moments in this episode. 998 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: Next episode, Season three, episode twenty, every day is a 999 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: Sunday evening. I have no idea. What's coming, do you? Hopefully? 1000 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean a little Jake. Yeah, we're gonna have Jake. 1001 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a little wedding prep. Yeah, maybe some 1002 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: maybe some Brook and Haley. Uh, I want to design 1003 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: your wedding dress more? Yeah, Oh my god, don't I 1004 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: put you in a dress with like a terrible maleficent 1005 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: caller at some point? Or did I do that already? 1006 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe you did? You do it because 1007 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: it's just it was a surprise because it was like 1008 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 1: we got married. Okay, maybe this is it. It's coming up. 1009 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna have some amusing fashion maleficent collar now I 1010 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: wish I had. That's my next Halloween costume. I'll mix 1011 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: male efficent hule. All right. I love you guys next week. 1012 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: See you next week. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget 1013 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 1: to leave us a review. 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