1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: My name is Matt. Our colleague nol is on an 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: adventure they called me Ben. We're joined as always with 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: our super producer Ball, Mission Controlled Decond. Most importantly, you 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: are you. You are here, and that makes this the 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. Today's episode is 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: something that Matt, I think you and I are both 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: pretty excited about because we're we're diving into something with 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: some folklore, some mythologies, some twists and unexpected turns, and 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: you and Mission Control and I are not alone in 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: this endeavor. You see. Today's episode comes to us courtesy 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: of Pedro. Pedro, I hope you're listening, because this episode 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: is for you man. Uh Pedro, you wrote in to 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: say the following, and I think, Matt, maybe we can 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: we can uh double dragon this a little and pass 19 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: off the email, so I want to hear it here 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: it goes. Pedro says, in part, I have always been 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: amazed at the folklore involving goblins or dwen Days in Spanish. 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: I know you guys have spoken a lot about UFOs, 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: mysterious deaths, magic and or powers. This needs to be 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: given a look at because down in Mexico and many 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: parts of Central and South America, there have been not 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: only tails, but alleged sightings of these mysterious creatures. And 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: I would really love if you guys could talk about 28 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: this on air. And Pedro says, I will attach to 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: videos in this email just so you guys can get 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: an idea of what I'm talking about. Videos in Spanish 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: happened in Sonora, Mexico, and in the video there's seems 32 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: to be a woman carrying what looks like to be 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: a dwen Day or goblin, and it left many people 34 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: in shock. The second is another sighting in Mexico. I 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: also linked in an article with some background information. You 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: can YouTube or search articles regarding the topic. Thanks so much, 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: love the show. Oh you, Ben just deleted my favorite 38 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: part of the email from Pedro. I'm gonna say the 39 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: same doc Pedro said, Ben is my spirit animal. That's 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: too kind. Pedro, thank you, thank you very much. Uh 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: you know that's that is a really nice compliment, so 42 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: much so that I did delete it in an active betrayal. 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: As you are reading the email, Matt, I want to 44 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: own up to that. I apologize. But this is this 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: is interesting because you know, over the years you and 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: I have well, I think we all we both loved 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: cryptids growing up, and over the years doing this show, 48 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: we've explored tons and tons of cryptids that a lot 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: of people aren't very well aware of. And I don't 50 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: know about you, Matt, but I was surprised to find 51 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: that while the concept of dwen day maybe unfamiliar to 52 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: a lot of us listening today, it Pedro is right. 53 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: It is incredibly common in Mexico, Central and South America, 54 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: as well as the Philippines. It's everywhere other parts of 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the world. And what we're gonna find as we're going 56 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: through this episode, dwen days are just called other things 57 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: across the world. So it really is just everybody has 58 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: legends and sightings of this thing, whatever it is, this 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: group of smaller creatures that we're going to learn all 60 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: about today. Yeah. Yeah, we'll maybe even meet some of 61 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: the purported varieties of these creatures, like the trends, the tronats. 62 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see where the journey takes us. Let's 63 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: figure out where this belief comes from, and maybe on 64 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: the way we can sow in a little bit of 65 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: common modern day knowledge about goblins or where they occur 66 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: in fiction, because there's still very much a thing. But 67 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: here are the facts. So one day technically translates to 68 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: kind of like elf, but if you hear it used nowadays, 69 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: or you hear it referred to in English, it's almost 70 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: always equated with the idea of a goblin and god. 71 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: And that's you know, Pedro is equating it with goblins 72 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: as well. Uh, Matt, I have to defer to a 73 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: little bit of your knowledge here because I believe that 74 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: for most people in the United States, goblins are associated 75 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: with a number of things in fiction, and we'll probably 76 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: get emails if we don't mention them all. But you know, 77 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: shout out to David Bowie, the goblin King in Labyrinths. 78 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: He's a very um unusual but not unprecedented variety of goblin. Um. 79 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think of Tolkien. Right. 80 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: We were talking to Little Bit with Paul Mission Control 81 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: deck ends over before we went on air about well 82 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: about the newest Hobbit films people, Yeah, some people love them. 83 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: Your mileage may vary. It is it is a trilogy. Well, 84 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: there there are. There's some weirdness with the Tolkien stuff 85 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: surrounding goblins because hobgoblin I believe correctly if I'm wrong here, 86 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: but hobgoblin in the Tolkien verse, at least within the Hobbit, 87 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: is used to refer to a large version of a goblin, 88 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: like a huge goblin. I think the Goblin King that's 89 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: featured in in the films, at least the three films 90 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: that came out more recently, the Goblin King is a hobgoblin. 91 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: Is this huge creature that is like a goblin, but 92 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: like ten times the size of any of the others. 93 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: That's a bit weird. I'm not I'm not gonna throw 94 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: too much shade on on those movies. But oh yeah, yeah, 95 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: they weren't my favorite. They weren't for everybody. Lord of 96 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: the Rings was amazing, I think, And to be fair, 97 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: nostalgia me has may have colored my experience with an 98 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: animated nine seven Hobbit from Ranking Bass, but I rewatched it. 99 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: I dig it. Yeah, I'll tell you what colored my 100 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: experience with the Peter Jackson Hobbit series. Uh, massive battles 101 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: with zero steaks, because nobody ever gets hurt. If you're 102 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: a protagonist in the Hobbit world, you're fine. Just jump 103 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: into that lava. You'll be fine. You'll get out because 104 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: amazing that nothing can happen to you. All those dwarves 105 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: made it down. Yeah, they fell down the largest ravine 106 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life and featured in any movie, 107 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: and they were just like, oh, well, let's get to 108 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: the sunlight. I believe that's true, man. I believe that 109 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: Tolkien originally his working title for The Hobbit was The Ravine, 110 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: and it was it played a much larger role in 111 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: this story. Are you sure it wasn't the invinsa Hobbits? 112 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: Sorry that that plot armor. Okay, I know we're on 113 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: a tangent already in this, but it needs to be 114 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: said that one of the most important things about David 115 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: Bowie is that when he is around a series of goblins, 116 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: all of those other goblins get plus one plus one 117 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: and they gain mountain walk if you're you know, early on, 118 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: sometimes they gain haste depending on the goblin king. Yeah, 119 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: and you know what, that's a real difference between goblins 120 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: and dwen Day, at least the beliefs in them Goblins 121 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: in folklore, our thoughts rule pretty deep, right, you see 122 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: a lot of goblins once, uh, dwen day seem more solitary. 123 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: But well, we'll find out how these terms get a 124 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: little muddied. As we said, it translates to elf, but 125 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: it is commonly, you know, treated as synonymous with goblins. 126 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: Experts aren't sure exactly where the term goblin comes from, 127 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 1: but they have a couple of guesses, tracing it back 128 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: to the fourteenth century from the Norman French term gobolin 129 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: g O b E l i n and then tracing 130 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: that term back to the twelfth century with something called 131 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: gobblin us. Yeah, that's a you know, according to our research, 132 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: a medieval Latin term for a spirit that would haunt 133 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: a very specific region that I cannot pronounce every maybe 134 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: it's how you would say it every perhaps. Yeah. And 135 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: they note that it's mentioned in medieval Latin text back 136 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: in the eleven hundred specifically, and that few and that 137 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: it was probably used before then. The issue was that 138 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: few people who believed in folk magic also used medieval Latin, 139 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: and so over time goblin becomes this kind of catch 140 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 1: all term that described any number of supernatural creatures dwarves, imps, kobolds, gnomes, brownies, 141 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: of course, dwen day. It's kind of like saying car 142 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: at some point you're describing a lot of stuff and 143 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: h or like like jinn. Goblins in folklore d one 144 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: day can have diffree motivations. Some are helpful, some are 145 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: little stinkers, and some can be downright threatening. But you know, 146 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: whatever word we used to describe them, they do have 147 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: some commonalities in folklore. Oh yeah, they do. The biggest 148 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: thing you're going to find is that they are small. 149 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: They're small creatures, similar to a lot of the faye 150 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: that's described out in the you know, the aisles of 151 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: the UK and in areas out there. Um. Many times 152 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: they're mischievous. Not again, not always mean or mean spirited, 153 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: but they will get some revenge on you if you 154 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: do harm to them or if you you know, endanger 155 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: them or hurt one of their kin. At least, uh, 156 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: pretty common in there. Many times they are let's say, 157 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: like a dragon. Uh, they're very covetous. They they if 158 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: they find things and they gather things. It's they generally 159 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: want to keep it, and they want to especially if 160 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: it's worth anything at least to them. They'll hold onto 161 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: that stuff really hard. There are many stories here that 162 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: include helpful nature with with a lot of these, but 163 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: again it's got that like good and evil thing where 164 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: they'll help out sometimes, but if you do anything at 165 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: all to you know, anger them or cause harm to them, 166 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: it's that relationships over and you might be in trouble. Yeah, exactly. 167 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: And this is something that we see pretty commonly with 168 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: supernatural creatures. Uh, the idea of one day being elves 169 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: or goblins, being a kind of fay or fairy or 170 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: hidden folk, whatever you want to call them. Uh. Those 171 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: ideas typically are accompanied by specific sets of rules. Right 172 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: if you're playing D and D along with this episode 173 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: at home, their alignment would often be considered lawful evil. 174 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: A lot of um, at least fay characters are lawful 175 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: evil in that they have these rules that must be obeyed, 176 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: and you can see that in some of the traditional 177 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: stories about things that are goblin related. The weirdest part 178 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: is the vast majority of people in the modern age 179 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: don't believe in the existence of creatures like this. But 180 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: you may be surprised to learn that beliefs in something 181 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: some sort of supernatural at times visible community or entity 182 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: of sentient non humans persist in communities around the world. 183 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: And there are people who do take this quite seriously, 184 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: and there are other people who, you know, treat it 185 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: the way that the people point Pleasant treat moth Man. 186 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's a fun story. It 187 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: gives us a sense of local community and culture. And 188 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: no one's mad at the tourist money. Yeah, you can't 189 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: be mad at that, and especially if I don't know, 190 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: you're in a lot of these places I'm thinking specifically 191 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: in the UK and other places that deal with Faye 192 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: outside of the Goblin realm, but where it encourages people 193 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: and like you said, tourism, but in like more uh 194 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: um natural areas like um, like a nature preserve or 195 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: something like that, where you're gonna get tourism in a 196 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: place I don't know. It's not gonna do anybody harm. 197 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: If you're out there checking out for Faye, you know, 198 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: just having a good time camping, unless you're you know, 199 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: starting fires. That's dangerous. Be careful with those. And as 200 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: you were telling me, Matt, you've found a couple of 201 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: specific people, and we'll talk about later who do just 202 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: that in in an obtrusive way. That's that's the way 203 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: to look for him. But while we're looking at things, 204 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: let's look at the dwe Days specifically, since that's what 205 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: pay Draws asked us about. It is described by a 206 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: number of names, depending on which part of the world 207 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: you're referring to, but like the Goblin overall, the dwen 208 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Day have a couple of common factors. First, there's the 209 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: devious boogeyman role. Kids growing up in parts of Mexico 210 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: or Central America may have heard their parents or guardian 211 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: tell them, okay, behave go to bed. Don't if you 212 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: venture out into the forest, the dwen Days might get you. 213 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: In these stories, the dwen Day lives often in one 214 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: of two places, either out in the forest or between 215 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: the walls of homes, especially if there are children around. 216 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Because here's the creepy part. Apparently, the dwen Day loves 217 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: eating children's toe nails. They're hygiene obsessed. If your toe 218 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: nails are unkempt, they're coming for you, and they're super 219 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: aggressive about it. They may even take an entire toe 220 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: by accident. That's not going to be on purpose. They 221 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: don't want, you know, the flesh, except kind of according 222 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: to some of some of the stories they do, because 223 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: there's some weird stuff going on there where they're versions 224 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: of this story that include this is this is parish. 225 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: You guys, like a mother that perhaps didn't want to 226 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: have a baby. Um again this is folklore, but a 227 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: mother didn't want to have a baby giving that child 228 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: up essentially to these creatures as a meal. Yeah, I 229 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: don't even like saying that. Yeah, it's like the idea 230 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: is that they've escalated in their taste and they've gone 231 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: from toenails to flesh. We should pause for a second 232 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: because there's a story here that Portuguese and Spanish speakers 233 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: are going to be familiar with, and we need to 234 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: differentiate between the two. So one day has a different 235 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: meaning nowadays, and as it as a couple of meanings, 236 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: one of them, yes, the idea of this supernatural entity 237 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: and or spirit and or um living organism. But secondly, 238 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: and this is pretty cool. The term has also been 239 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: used in flamenco music and other art forms to refer 240 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: to a vibe like your animal magnetism, the your your 241 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: personal rico swaft nous. It's a mystical or powerful force 242 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: given off by a performer to draw in the audience, 243 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: which I was not aware of. It's the ability to 244 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: attract people through your charm, like the Dosakis guy, or 245 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: like that Ben Bold guy or that Matt Frederick guy. Really, 246 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: let's you know, all all credit due to our one 247 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: and only Mission Control. That guy is living dwe day. Dude. 248 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes we log into these zoom calls to make these 249 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: episodes and Paul Mission Control just shows up and you're like, whoa, 250 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: what is that sealing It must be that umust that 251 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: one day. So we have this toe chewing boogeyman, and 252 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: that's separate from this personal magnetism. But we have another 253 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: side of the dwen day. This kind of contrast is 254 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: pretty common in supernatural creatures because the dwen day, in 255 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: addition to stealing children or eating their toenails or taking 256 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: them into the forest, they've also been rumored to assist 257 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: people who are lost in the wild and help them 258 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: find their way back to civilization. I guess you start 259 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: out in the forest. If you want to get on 260 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: their good side, then yeah, and again don't disturb them directly. 261 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: But if you're in need, they might be there for you. 262 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: Might maybe if you happen to encounter them, you know. Yeah, well, 263 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: there are other stories of the you know, the versions 264 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: of dwen Day that live more in the walls, that 265 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: are home dwelling, that may actually help out with chore 266 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: when everybody goes to sleep and the house is quiet, 267 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: they may actually help out and do things for the family, 268 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: for the house, not necessarily for you, but maybe for you. Uh. 269 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: It's hard because many of these stories try to ascribe uh, 270 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: what the Dwendi wants, what the goblin wants, what the 271 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: creature wants, and by doing these things. Um, but who knows. 272 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: We haven't exactly how to Charlie Rose interview, maybe not him, 273 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: but an interview with one of these guys. Right, we're 274 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: still waiting for the fresh air Terry Gross where she 275 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: sits down with the dwen Day. I love that you're 276 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: mentioning the varieties that assist with household chores because etymo logically, 277 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: it's believed that dwen Day originated as a contraction of 278 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: a longer phrase dwen di casa or Duenno di casa, 279 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: which more or less means master of the house. So 280 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: maybe that's maybe that gives us a glimpse into the 281 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: evolution of the more helpful dwen Day. But again, they're 282 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: there are tons of dwen Day. It's we could just 283 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: list all of them because they have different traits. Some 284 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: can summon thunder and lightning. Some are known to pull 285 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: down people's clothes and pench him on the butt. It's uh, 286 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: I think the then some are very unpopular, like triscoes 287 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: are super hated. They're considered nuisances. Yeah, I would say, 288 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: at least in what I've found the vast majority of 289 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: videos online, and there are so many videos of supposed 290 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: dwen Day sightings, the vast majority are or they feature 291 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: humans in them that are displaying a lot of fear 292 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: or like terror. When a dwen Day appears or just 293 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: happens to show up in the middle of a video 294 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: that looks like it was shot on like the thing 295 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: that was created before the Potato camera, I'm not sure, um, 296 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, there's a fear associated with seeing one in 297 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: the moment at least. Yeah. Yeah, And that's a huge 298 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: part of today's story. So we see that Spanish folklore 299 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: is one of the origin points for the belief and 300 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: dwin Day. There are tons of specific types in this 301 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: folkloric universe, and these stories reached across the world in 302 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: step with the expansion of the Spanish Empire late fifteenth 303 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: century to the early eighteen hundreds. But this is not 304 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: the entire explanation. We're gonna pause for a moment for 305 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors, and assuming we don't get 306 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: snatched by our toes, will return with more on dwen Day. 307 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: And we've returned, Let's think of folklore kind of like 308 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: a a mash up album, you know, or a mash 309 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: up video on YouTube. You see things that feel unlikely 310 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: coming together and making a surprisingly quiz of whole. As 311 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: we talked about in our earlier episode on Forgotten Religions, 312 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: folklore functions like religious syncretism, and so we can kind 313 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: of trace, or we can at least speculate on the 314 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: evolution of dwen Day in Central South America, in Mexico 315 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: and in the Philippines as well. Because people are all intelligent, 316 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: people are all trying to explain what's going on in 317 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: the world, and they come up with stories that have 318 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: a lot of common or beliefs that have a lot 319 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: in common. Therefore, it's highly likely that Native people heard 320 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: of the word d one day for the first time, 321 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: and they already had something similar in their own culture. 322 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: Turns out, across history, people love the idea of magic, 323 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: little humanlike things. Whether they're good or evil, we're both 324 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: at different times. So like, you can imagine, we can 325 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: imagine that, right that that sounds plausible. Oh yeah, and 326 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: I think it fully explains our love of action figures 327 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: and tiny dolls. Big dolls are spooky though, we can 328 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: agree on that. Oh yeah. But but if you've got 329 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: a little thing that you can play with, like, that's fun, 330 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: that's exciting. And if that thing was actually real and 331 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: animated and could move and had ideas and motivations, shoot, 332 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: that's a that's the greatest thing ever. Stay away from 333 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: our feet though, Yeah, So, I like the feet thing 334 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: is just so weird and specific. So credit to whomever 335 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: came up with that when they were trying to scare 336 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: their kid into sleeping. Anyhow, back to our example. So 337 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: let's say, Matt, let's say you have become part of 338 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: the Spanish Empire. You're reaching, uh, this land you've never 339 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: seen before for the first time, You're learning a little 340 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: bit of the local language, they're learning to bit of 341 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: your language Spanish. You talk to them about the idea 342 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: of dwen Day and then they go, by the way, 343 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: we're bracketing all the horrible things that the Spanish Empire did. 344 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: It did a ton of horrific uh stuff. They committed 345 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: a lot of atrocities. But in this scenario, Matt, you're 346 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: just a regular guy. You just work your job, you're 347 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: chilling with these other people. You say d one day 348 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: and then they say, oh you mean yeah, you mean 349 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: that forest spirit Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got those, 350 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: we got those here. Oh really, that's that's amazing. Oh, 351 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: we shall have to set up traps everywhere. And they're like, oh, well, 352 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: what's your what's your dwe day like? And they say, well, 353 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, our dwe Day lives in the forest, has 354 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: a weird thing about toes uh and will sometimes help 355 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: you if you are lost in the woods. And then 356 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, our our Spanish speaker in this in this scenario, 357 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland has ruined my pronunciation of that word. Our 358 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: Spanish speaker there also says well, you know where I 359 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: grew up, and at this point in time would probably 360 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: they'd probably say a specific town or region in Spain 361 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: and say where I grew up. Yeah, this is what 362 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: they do here. So you guys got off kind of easy. 363 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: And so with this in mind, it's also pretty likely 364 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: that indigenous cultures would have used these terms interchangeably dwe 365 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: day and then the other terms that they already had, 366 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: because they already had things like this in their culture. 367 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: So a common belief and something like hidden forest spirits 368 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: or forest guardians or similar examples would have over time 369 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: become closer and closer to something like the Spanish concept 370 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: of dwen day and also retain the attributes of the 371 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: creature in the pre existing belief system. So there we go. 372 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: But this is not to be a lecture on folklore. 373 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: Don't worry. I just had to get that part out 374 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: of the way because the one days are different for 375 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: very big reason, very very big reason. Yeah, I mean, 376 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I wonder how many people are out 377 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: there listening and thinking, Wow, these guys are taking uh, 378 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: twen days pretty seriously. It's uh, what is it? One? Right? Now? 379 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: They know that they're not real right, you're probably thinking 380 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: that some of you do. They also think minotaurs are 381 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: just running around Greece and that's like a like a 382 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: pest a pestilence of minotaurs whatever. The group name for 383 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: menatars is a stampede of minotaurs. Oh yeah, for sure 384 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: in the pegas I that just exists in the cliffs 385 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: for some guide Athens. Right now, God, like, please somewhat 386 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: help me get rid of these gorgon's. It's like a 387 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: made for TV commercial, you know. There. We can't let 388 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: them get into the Georgia Theater again. Oh you're talking 389 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: about the original events? Okay, never mind, yeah, yeah, yeah, 390 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: well well either you know what, either will work for 391 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: this commercial, Matt. We just need to have one person 392 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: like turned to stone and then someone turned break the 393 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: fourth wall and talk to the camera and be like, 394 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: there's got to be a better way, que Billy mays. Okay, 395 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: well we've solved that. But yeah, you're right, it's a 396 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: good question though. It is, yes, But the one major 397 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: difference here is what Pedro has mentioned in the email 398 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: that he sent to us. Unlike all these other creatures, 399 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: human beings in real life in the modern era with 400 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: digital technology believe they have encountered these creatures and captured 401 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: them and have evidence of it and have uploaded it 402 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: to social media sites like YouTube, and uh, a lot 403 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: of other people, a lot of other people believe that 404 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: some of these videos are real. Yeah, that's the thing. 405 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: There's no shortage of people who not only believe that 406 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: there is an actual creature as a dwen Day, but 407 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: they also believe they have seen it or someone they 408 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: know has seen it. So what if instead of being 409 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: a legend, the dwen Day is an actual creature a crypto. 410 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy. So d one Day sightings 411 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: generally follow the same format, or a lot of them do. 412 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: There's a small group of kids hanging out somewhere. They 413 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: might be playing soccer, they might just be kicking it 414 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: on the sidewalk. It's often gonna occur at night, and 415 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: then one of them see something moving in the shadows, 416 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: usually partially obscured, often obscured, yeah, and then boom uh, 417 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: enter the dwen Day, who pops out for just a 418 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: second or just seconds maybe, or maybe it's walking away, 419 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: but either way, the sighting is brief, and the dwen 420 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: Day usually leaves the scene immediately, and then the camera 421 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: shuts off right afterwards, and that's all you get and 422 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: there's no follow up. That's it. Yeah, And thanks to 423 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: the use of recording technology and thanks to the democratization 424 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: mobile video, you can see dozens, dozens, dozens of alleged 425 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: dwen Day sightings caught on film. Probably the most famous, 426 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: the one that got the most attention outside of Mexico, 427 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: Central and South America, was this thing called the Argentina gnome. 428 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: And you, you and I both watched this video. Oh yeah, 429 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: I watched so many times on YouTube. You you you 430 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: know this already. I'm sure everyone listening. But you can 431 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: reduce the timing of these videos down to like one 432 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: half of the regular speed, all the way down to 433 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: a quarter of the regular speed, and you can watch 434 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: like half frame by half frame record. You know. However, however, 435 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: whatever the frame rate was that was uploaded from these 436 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: terrible cameras people are using to record these things, and 437 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: you can watch it, and I did, and I have 438 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: over and over and over, and the side stepping Argentina 439 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: nome or shuffling, I guess. I mean, I wouldn't categorize 440 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: it as one of my favorites, but it's definitely there. 441 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: It's one of the best isolated creature versions of these 442 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: sightings where where you can actually see something. Even though 443 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: it's fully in shadow, you can see that there's a 444 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: full thing for longer than a second. Yeah, yeah, that's 445 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: that's a great way to say. It's very short. Forty 446 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: eight seconds. Um. You know I in matters like this, folks, 447 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: I typically defer to Matt's video expertise. Matt, you have 448 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, you have a experience with this, and you 449 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: know how to spot things that would call the veracity 450 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: of a piece of video into question. So that's that's 451 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: one of my first things in my processes. I'll send 452 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: Mad a video and I'll be like, all right, before 453 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: I get weird with this, is this real? And? And 454 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: this is tough because it's easier and easier to fake 455 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: these as well. Anyway, I would say that one is 456 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: real in that there was actually something in that video. 457 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: You just have to decide was it a little person 458 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: that that group of people knew, was it a kid 459 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 1: dressed up in some costume um or was it an 460 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: actual creature of some sort. But here's the thing, the hat, Yeah, 461 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: and the hat is the hat is one of the 462 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: big sticking points where Family shows. I'm not going to 463 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: go into all my feelings about the hat aspect of 464 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: these sightings, but for a lot of people are unfamiliar 465 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: with this. Imagine a sinister version of the stereotypical gnome 466 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: with the red pointing hat, a little guy white beard, 467 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: like the evil universe version of that. That's something that 468 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: people often describe seeing, and it's important to know. In 469 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: the era of TikTok hoaxes and all this stuff, it's 470 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: important to note that not all the people reporting these 471 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: sightings are children or teens. There are a lot of 472 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: fringe researchers who seem convinced that this is a real thing. 473 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: What In particular, the late crypto zoologist Ivan Sanderson, himself 474 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: a very controversial figure, noted that one day sightings have 475 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: been reported by tons of folks in Central America, including 476 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: people you would consider highly educated in the field, like 477 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: the zoologist and author Alan Rabinowitz, who wrote about the 478 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: belief easy and beliefs in the dwe Day and his 479 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: own experience, citing what he described as a strange little 480 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: man about three ft tall, standing at the very edge 481 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: of the forest at night. That's pretty cool. I mean, 482 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm interested in that. I didn't read that particular thing 483 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: from Alan Robinowitz, Ben, but that's something that I'm now 484 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: going to look deeper into just you know, even those 485 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: one person's account, the fact that it's a zoologist who 486 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, felt it was compelling enough to write down 487 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: interests me. But that written down, as relayed to Sanderson, 488 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: so have been. There may have been some telephoning and 489 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: maybe a little we can't rule that out, but we 490 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: know we know that this guy Rubinowitz is not alone. 491 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: There are so many sightings enough for us to broadly 492 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: categorize two different types of descript ship. And these descriptions 493 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: are going to be important. Will return to them later 494 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: in the show. Yes, one of them is a rather 495 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: her suit human person, a man like creature that's about 496 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: four ft tall. There's a shriveled nature to to this 497 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: character that's often described road hard, put away, wet. You know, 498 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: there you go. Um. There are a couple things that 499 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: this person may wield. Often it's a stick of some 500 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: time of some kind. Sometimes an instrument like a stringed 501 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: instrument such as a guitar. Sometimes a weapon like a 502 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: ma chet day or a knife or you know, it 503 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: may look like a sword in this person's hand. Um. 504 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: And they're often in some kind of like animal skin 505 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: like a hide, something like that, rags um and almost 506 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: always in this this one category worry of sighting, there 507 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: is something on the head. There's a hat of some sort, 508 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: whether that's you know, related to the animal hide that 509 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: they were wearing, or just a pointy little thing, some 510 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: kind of headwear. Yeah, exactly. It's a very very important 511 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: fact you mentioned. It's not always a pointy hat. It's 512 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: always not always David the Gnome impersonator, right, But the 513 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: other explanation has some important differences. In the other description, 514 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: you will see a generally a three to four ft 515 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: tall creature, human esque looking thing with sloping shoulders, noticeably 516 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: long arms, brown hair, a flat yellowish face, and then 517 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: long hair down the back, uh and the neck. So 518 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: we're at an impass. The creatures characteristics as it's described 519 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: and the stories about it are clearly a blend of 520 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: different cultures, connecting right, European cultures, native cultures, and then 521 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: probably also lore from the continent of Africa. But again, 522 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: depending on who you asked, there have been sightings of 523 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: one day by credible witnesses. At the very least, we 524 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: know that forest park rangers and zoologists have seen things 525 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: in the wild that they cannot explain to their own 526 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: satisfaction despite their higher than average odds of being familiar 527 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: with most of the animals in the area. You know 528 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's it's way different from just dropping 529 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: a rando in there and then saying, okay, describe these things, yeah, 530 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: for sure. But but no matter how credible those witnesses are, 531 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: Generally these sightings occur in the dark or in the shadows, 532 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: just as they do on all the YouTube videos you're 533 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna find when you're searching for this later tonight. I 534 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: promise you it's gonna happen. It's just happens to all 535 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: of us. You have to you have to keep looking 536 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: because some of them are compelling as hell. Um, So 537 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's difficult. It's difficult to know when you're 538 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: looking at a shadow and you're seeing something moving and 539 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: you're in nature, out in the wilderness, like what is 540 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: that thing? What was that? Why? Why does it smell 541 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: different in here right now? That's another thing, by the way, 542 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: didn't even mention. According to some stories, when they're twin day, 543 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: especially the house, the ones that live in a house, 544 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: when they've come by, there's an acrid, awful smell that 545 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: may be associated with them being around, similar to how 546 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: um many Jin encounters are described, where there's like a 547 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: sulfuric smell that that a residue of sorts that lead 548 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: has left behind. Um anyway, we we have to just 549 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: you take all of this into account, like could it 550 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: be just that people's minds are putting tricks on them 551 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: in the dark, even the people who know what they're 552 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: doing and know where they are in their surroundings, or 553 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: there is there some other explanation, and uh, we're gonna 554 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: look at that. After another word from our sponsors and 555 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: we've returned. Yes, we are going to explore some possible explanations. 556 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: One misidentification easy what you would call a low hanging 557 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: branch here. Misidentification is a lead cause for a ton 558 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: of alleged cryptic sightings, as we found in the case 559 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: of the Jersey Devil, whereas we found in the case 560 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: of Bigfoot. This identification has been common for centuries and centuries. 561 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: People get scared, their encounters are hurried and their brief 562 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: and when these people finally get to a calm, safe place, 563 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: their memories are jumbled and they've been heavily influenced by 564 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: the fear they experienced right, and you know, they might 565 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: even smell something later and then it triggers the memory, 566 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 1: which changes the memory, because your memories change every time 567 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: you remember them. True story, scary stuff, what and this 568 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: is weird? I was thinking about this man. So while 569 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: it might seem counterintuitive, misidentification is likely on the rise nowadays. 570 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: It's a very good era for misidentification, despite the fact 571 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: that there's such an abundance of surveillance and recording technology. 572 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: The truth is, the majority of human beings now live 573 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: in dense urban areas. The animal that you are most 574 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: likely to see in your day to day life every 575 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: single day, it's another human being. That's the animal you 576 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: will most commonly run into. And if you live in 577 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: a dense urban area, you're less likely to be familiar 578 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: with large wild animals. Have you ever seen a bear 579 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: in the wild? Have you ever seen a monkey? What 580 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: if you what if the you saw one and you 581 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: weren't expecting it, he'd freak out, he'd freak a little bit. Yeah, Well, 582 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: especially if that creature, that bear, or that monkey were 583 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: maybe let's say a cub or a baby monkey or 584 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: a young young monkey, that or a bear, because either 585 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: of them can and will stand on their hind legs 586 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: at times, and if they're younger, they may be very small. 587 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: And if you see a small creature like that, a 588 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: real animal in the shadows standing up on its hind 589 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: legs with arms, it would freak me out if I 590 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't know what it was. Yeah, I've I've enjoyed that 591 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: description because putting myself in the place, you know, even 592 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: being able to identify animals in the wild when you're 593 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: not expecting it, it's it's a wallop so or even 594 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: like a raccoon or you know, I mean, there's so many. Yeah, 595 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: there's so many small creatures that have some of the 596 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: features of a human if they happen to get into 597 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: a certain posture, right, I I gotta say, man, I 598 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: love pretty much all animals. I'm glad they're here. Uh, 599 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: raccoons fascinate me, but they freaked me out a little 600 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: bit because there's something kind of uncanny valley about their hands, 601 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They just look sneaky, and 602 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: they're always like they look like they look covetous, you know, 603 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: like a goblin. Yes, maybe that's it. Maybe goblins the raccoons, 604 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: but they also have these amazing parkour abilities. I just yeah, 605 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: they're they're weird. Send your favorite raccoon stories. I'd love 606 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: to hear them, but I'm gonna read them during the 607 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: daytime just in case. And it's safe to say then 608 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: that at least in some sightings, people have accidentally misidentified 609 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: an animal that they would have eventually recognized if they 610 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 1: saw it in a more controlled environment like a zoo, 611 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: right and if they had had more time to observe 612 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: it instead of this hurried, often terrifying and short encounter. 613 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: But no matter what, misidentification cannot explain everything, primarily because 614 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: wild animals, for what we know, tend to not wear 615 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: a hat. From what we've seen from the data we 616 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: have gathered, hats haven't really gotten on the scene in 617 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: the animal kingdom yet. You know, yes, you're right, And 618 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: I just have to add one last thing that like 619 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 1: could help out here. Keep the camera rolling after you've 620 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: seen something like that, don't cut, like, just get all 621 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: the row footage. You can chase the thing with your camera, 622 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: zoom in, turn up the brightness, lower the contrast, do 623 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: everything you can in that moment if you ever encounter one, 624 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: and then upload the whole file. Don't edit it, and 625 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: then we'll see what happens and try just or higher. 626 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: Please for God's sake, I know I feel your pain, man. 627 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: This This leads us to the second thing. Why why 628 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 1: is what Matt sayings so important? Well, it's important because 629 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: if you find yourself in a situation like this and 630 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: you're trying to film, not taking those steps will set 631 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: you up to be accused of hoaxing. And that is 632 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: the second cobbon explanation. For a lot of cryptic sidings, 633 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: it's unfortunately frequent, and like cases of misidentification, hoaxes have 634 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: been on the rise for some time. It's easier now 635 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: than ever before to fake something. You can alter video, 636 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: you can distort, remove, insert things. You can also, like 637 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, Matt, you can control angles, lighting setting, You 638 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: can do pretty much whatever you want to video, so 639 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: long as you have enough expertise and lead time. Like 640 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: that's I think that's why you're emphasizing that, uh huh, 641 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: how come this just happens and then they stop rolling? 642 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: To me? One of the questions that always pops up 643 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: is why would someone purposely create hoax? One day? Siding 644 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: well number one for attention, for laughs, for the walls 645 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: for trolling. If we look at the video from Argentina, 646 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: it was funny because this was, uh, this got a 647 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: lot of international attention when it was reported by the Sun, 648 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: which is kind of like the United Kingdom's weekly World News. 649 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: It's the closest they'll get to like bat boys stories. 650 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: And this is the gnome sighting from Argentina. Correct. Yeah, 651 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: it comes a side stepper. So so the teenager who 652 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: filmed this is interviewed in the Sun. His name is 653 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: Jose Alvarez, and he says, you know, me and my 654 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: pals are just hanging out on the sidewalk one am 655 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: and then we hear a noise and it sounds like 656 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: someone throwing stones, and Snopes is really snarky when they 657 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: report on this. You can find the Snopes right up 658 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: on this, and they say Alvarez, who had miraculously started 659 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: filming nothing in particular with his cell phone immediately beforehand, 660 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: was able to capture a few seconds earth of video 661 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: that of something that looks like just as you described Matt, 662 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 1: a tiny biped with a pointy hat doing the rambling man, 663 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: just a few steps sideways. And then he says, this 664 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: is very common, that exact scenario. Oh man, I just 665 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: happen to start filming. Hey, what are you guys doing? Nothing? 666 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: Just hanging out? Okay, cool, yeah, exactly. That was funny 667 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: your video, but the videos great. I hope that makes 668 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: it onto our YouTube channel. Who knows, you know, it's 669 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: it's above us. So Alvarez is saying, Okay, at first 670 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: we thought this was a dog, but we saw it 671 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: was gnome like and we began to get really afraid. 672 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: This is not a joke. We're still afraid to go out. 673 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: Everybody in the neighborhood is. One of my friends was 674 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: so scared after seeing that thing that we had to 675 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: take him to the hospital. And Snope's notes exactly what 676 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: you noted earlier, Matt, that this has a classic hoax 677 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: set up, a sudden appearance of something in the background 678 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: right after rolling. The person with the camera is able 679 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 1: to find and zoom in on the thing really quickly, 680 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 1: even though it's unexpected. The glimpse of whatever this thing 681 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: is is very, very brief. And then Snoops also points 682 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: out there were two different takes of the same scene 683 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: that make you know that calling the question the spontaneity 684 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: of it. So with that in mind, just from that 685 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: one example and the format that we see in these 686 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 1: other YouTube videos, it's highly likely. I would say it's 687 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: virtually certain that some video footage of these Dwenday sightings 688 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: are indeed purposeful hoaxes, which sounds like a downer, But 689 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: there's one more possible explanation. It is. I think it's 690 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: safe to say it's always our personal favorite. Yes, and 691 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about but really quickly, I want to 692 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: mention one more video, one more dwe Day video that 693 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 1: was very popular. I'm looking for it right now, very quickly. 694 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: It was shot by a mother who just happened to 695 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: be filming her small child in the kitchen doing nothing. 696 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: Kids are doing absolutely nothing. All of a sudden, the 697 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: kid's head moves away a little bit, and a tiny, tiny, 698 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: little it looks like a human, a regular sized human 699 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: that got shrunk down into a tiny little version that's 700 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 1: only a foot tall or let or smaller, just runs 701 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: across from where the baby's head moved and runs underneath 702 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: a I don't know, a shelf or something that's right 703 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: a cabinet. It's just another one of these videos that 704 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: follows those exact rules that Snopes pointed out. But in 705 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: this case you can clearly see the creature and it 706 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: looks like a tiny little goblin running. But again, it 707 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: looks like a full sized human in a costume or 708 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: something that's just been shrunk down through video editing. Honestly, 709 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. I can't sit here and 710 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: tell you a percent that it was hoaxed, but I 711 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 1: can tell you in nin that it was hoaxed. There 712 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: we go. It's more than fair. So with that, we've 713 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: done a lot of myth busting here. But with that 714 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: we want to go to our favorite of these categories, 715 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: which is cryptids. What if the Dwenday sightings can be 716 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: partially attributed to a real, not yet officially identified animal. 717 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: If so, what could it be? Based on the descriptions, 718 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 1: the most likely suspect would be a small primate, and 719 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: if it is indeed encrypted, it would be a small 720 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: primate currently unknown to science. The height makes sense, as 721 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: do the reports being her suit or Harry. The humanoid 722 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: body also makes sense. Non human primates have the same 723 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: number of arms and legs, and a tail could be 724 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: difficult to spot depending on the environment. And again there 725 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: are all the videos are in the dark But there's 726 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: a counterpoint here. Given the sheer number of readily available 727 00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: video recording devices, why hasn't someone caught, clear undenied the 728 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: footage of these creatures. Why isn't there like dwen day 729 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: during the day? Uh? Is it because these are nocturnal creatures? 730 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 1: That's possible, um, But again, cameras are everywhere, And given 731 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,959 Speaker 1: that humans have lived in the area for such a 732 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: long time, why hasn't anyone come forward with a body 733 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: or some sort of physical evidence. I propose we start 734 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: calling this the bigfoot dilemma, the little the little foot. Yes, yeah, 735 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: good note, good note, We're going with it the little 736 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: foot dilemma. So this means that if we're looking for 737 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,760 Speaker 1: rational explanations, we can find several Hoaxes have to account 738 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: for some sightings, misidentification has to account for some others. 739 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: And while the idea of unrecognized animals is tremendously exciting, 740 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: there's just not enough evidence to support that idea in 741 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: this case yet. And furthermore, there's the odds are mounting 742 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: that if something like this existed and was an unknown animal, 743 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: it would already have been well known to locals, like 744 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 1: in the case of the sea a camp when people 745 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: thought they rediscovered this fish that have been extinct for 746 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: millions of years, and the locals said, oh, yeah, that's 747 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: a trash fish. Don't eat it, that's that is garbage fish. 748 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: Put it back. Yeah, it's really old that that's that 749 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 1: meat is no good anymore. The only problem here been 750 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: to my mind, when we're talking about misidentification, is that 751 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about a large area or a large variety 752 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: of areas of the earth that are covered when we're 753 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: talking about dwen Day sightings, you know, in in very 754 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 1: different ecosystems and climates, and it makes me wonder if 755 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: you know, could there be a common denominator here or 756 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 1: is it just different species of animals in different parts 757 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: of the world. Yeah, because it's spread out over so 758 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: many regions, right, and they don't all have the same ecosystems, 759 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: they don't long to the same floor and fauna. For example, 760 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: Beliez is home to different species of non human primates, 761 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: spider monkeys, howl are monkeys, you know what I mean? 762 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: Cool monkeys? You want cool monkeys Beliez. It's it's not 763 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 1: a perfect explanation. Again, because of that hat. That hat 764 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: drove me crazy. Spider monkeys might just be really shy 765 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: about their hat wear, and maybe that's something that they're 766 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 1: developing that's heartbreaking. So like they were amping themselves up 767 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: and they were like, all right, this is gonna be 768 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: big for me. I'm gonna try out my new look 769 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: my hat. And then the first time they see somebody 770 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: that people are screaming and the spider monkeys like, yes, yes, 771 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: I think I think he's solved it. Matt. There's something 772 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: we have we had in our notes that helps support 773 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: this idea. If you look at the photo of a 774 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: spider monkey, now that has provided one. By the way, uh, 775 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: I didn't take the photo personally, but it's important to 776 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: know what they look like. Yeah, I'm just gonna if 777 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 1: you're playing along at home, folks, pull up a picture 778 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: of a spider monkey, and let's just read that second 779 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: description one more time. Three to four foot tall, with 780 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: heavy shoulders, long arms, brown hair, a flat yellowish face, 781 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: and long hair down the back and the neck. I 782 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: believe this is a juvenile spider monkey. But you see 783 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: where I'm going with this, man, Yeah, I can fully 784 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: see it. The image we're looking at is a juvenile 785 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: spider monkey, kind of in a grassy area where from 786 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: about the monkey's tummy and up you can see but 787 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: kind of it looks like, you know, kind of hidden 788 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 1: down in the grass. But the facial expression of a 789 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: primate like this, ah man, you could totally see how 790 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 1: if you saw that creature in the shadows in the dark, 791 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: didn't expect it to be there, he could freak you out. 792 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: And and you could see why you that sighting would 793 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,479 Speaker 1: be considered a dwen day if if you didn't hear 794 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: the specific noises, you didn't capture them on video or 795 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: something or an audio. Yeah, I mean, that's that's the 796 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: dun day sighting for sure, just waiting to happen right right. 797 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: And then of course, if you realize that the majority 798 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: of wild animals are gonna be freaked out when they 799 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: run into you as a person, then that explains the 800 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: brevity of the encounter well, and also why they they 801 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: might hide, like if they are somewhat in plain sight 802 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: or nearby, they may be they may be hiding and 803 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,280 Speaker 1: hoping that you go away, and if you encroach further 804 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: on their area, they might stand up and or you know, 805 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: get up and scurry away really quickly. Again very similar 806 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: to the sightings we've uh we've seen or heard about. Yeah. 807 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: And then, last, but not least, there is the distant 808 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: but not entirely dismissible possibility that there could be a 809 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: human being involved, as someone who perhaps has a medical 810 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 1: condition resulting in a smaller than average height. That's possible, 811 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: but there's no confirmation of this. And for our final 812 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: notes here, we have to say that local belief in 813 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,399 Speaker 1: dwen Days varies widely. For many, it's like we said, 814 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: a mothman kind of vibe. It's sort of an in 815 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 1: joke about town. It's a piece of regional folklore people 816 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 1: find amusing and at times profitable, but it's not something 817 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 1: people take seriously. It's kids stuff, you know. But in 818 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: other regions sightings of creatures like dwen Day have apparently 819 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: been taken seriously enough to warrant some reports by police. 820 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: It was tough to confirm some of that, but it 821 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: does show that there there is a gamut here and 822 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 1: that's where the mystery stands. So thanks again Pedro for 823 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: the suggestion. We would love to hear cryptid stories from 824 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: your neck of the Global Woods. We've got some great ones, 825 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: and you know, Matt I was thinking I was looking 826 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,240 Speaker 1: back through some of our correspondence from our fellow listeners, 827 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: and I just think maybe we can do listener mail 828 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: with a theme if people are interested in just hearing 829 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 1: ghost stories one week, or if people are interested in 830 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: just hearing cryptid stories. You know. Yeah, so let's put 831 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,439 Speaker 1: on let's put a call out for one right now. 832 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: Do you have a crypted story, send it our way. 833 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: If you've already sent it to us before in the past, 834 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: that's fine, send it again, like if you've got a 835 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: very specific encounter story, or you know, call us, leave 836 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: a voicemail, send us a message through our email, or 837 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 1: find us on Twitter, whatever you want to do, get 838 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 1: it to us soon after hearing this, and we'll put 839 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 1: some stuff together. That's a great idea. Bit, Hey, let's hope. 840 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: Let's hope everybody digs it. I can't wait to see 841 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: I can't wait to read your stories, can't wait to 842 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: hear from you. Uh, and we think your fellow listeners 843 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: will enjoy it as well. Can Can I put a 844 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: I want to make too quick shout out just before 845 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: we end here, I went down a bunch of YouTube 846 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: rabbit holes. While I was going through everything, I forget 847 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: how much I love that site, slash service, slash whatever 848 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: Alphabet and Google have done there. Thank you over Lord's 849 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: but YouTube creators shout out to you, all of you 850 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: out there, if you're listening to this and you make 851 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: YouTube videos, but if you want to find just I 852 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: call it the most delightful channel I've found in a 853 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: long time. Like stumbled upon every once in a while 854 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: that happens, it's a It's a gentleman named Irwin Saunders 855 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: E R W I N s A U N D 856 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: E R S. He is out in the UK somewhere 857 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: in various places searching for pixies and and other fae creatures. 858 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: He's just my favorite character that I've found on YouTube 859 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: in a long time. Highly recommend and if you are 860 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: ever skeptical of videos online, we've shouted this person out 861 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: before a long time time ago. But one of my 862 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: seriously one of my all time favorite YouTube channels Captain Disillusion. 863 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: Check it out, find it incredible. Content goes through painstakingly 864 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: to show you what a hoax video looks like. In 865 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: one particular instance, why a video is fake or why 866 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: a video is well it's usually fake is because he's 867 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: Captain Disillusion Uh, some of the best effects on YouTube anyway, 868 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 1: shouting those out. Go down those rabbit holes and please 869 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: please please right to us and find us that I 870 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 1: didn't mean to take up so much time there. But 871 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: that's no, that's perfect. And I love shoutouts, man, I 872 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 1: think we both do. I want to give a shout out. 873 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: There's nothing to do with this episode. I want to 874 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: give a shout out to one of my favorite sketch 875 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: comedy groups I found on YouTube, and I hope you 876 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: do check them out. Tell him Benna Matt sent you. 877 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: They're called Chris and Jack. They are hilarious, top notch. Uh. 878 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 1: They made up their own holiday based on Jurassic Park. Uh. Yeah, 879 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 1: they've got some brilliant sketches. Uh, some of which are 880 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 1: related to the world of Conspiracies. I'll send you one after. 881 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: I'll send you one after after we wrap. Is it. Yes, 882 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: that's the holiday. They've been doing it for a while now. 883 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: But Chris Jack, if you're listening, great work, and let 884 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 1: us know if there's something that you think deserves a 885 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: shout out on the show. Like Ben said, we'd love 886 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: to hear from you. The final points here is that 887 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,840 Speaker 1: the odds of cryptid sightings overall are going to increase 888 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: in your lifetime as humans continue to encroach further into 889 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: the Dwindoline Wilderness. Humanity has, is, and will continue discovering 890 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 1: new species, both on land and in the ocean, but 891 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: these discoveries are, sadly often a side effect of the 892 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: larger problem. The habitats of these creatures are being destroyed, 893 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 1: and the days of seeing animals in the wild may 894 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: themselves eventually become the stuff of legend. Pretty crazy when 895 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: you think about it, and by far more terrifying than 896 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: the idea of little people chewing on your toes, though 897 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: that is again very creepy. Yeah, let us do what 898 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,800 Speaker 1: you think, folks. We'd love to hear from you. We 899 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: try to be easy to find online. Yes, you can 900 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 1: find us on Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube at Conspiracy Stuff. 901 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: It's that easy. On Instagram we are Conspiracy Stuff Show. 902 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: And before we throw to our phone number, I'm just 903 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna roll this out so long. Then, before we throw 904 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: to our phone number, I'm gonna read you the flavor 905 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: text of mons Goblin Raiders. It's a one one goblin 906 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: creature costs one mountain, one red manna to cast. And 907 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: here's the flavor text. The intricate dynamics of Goblin affairs 908 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 1: are often confused with anarchy. The chaos, however, is the 909 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: chaos of a thundercloud and direction will sporadically and violently appear, 910 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: and it mentions the leader Psholic Mons and his Raiders 911 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: are the thunderhead that leads in the storm. Anyway, if 912 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: you want to give us your critique of you know, 913 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: the alpha set Mons Goblin Raiders, you can reach us 914 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: at our phone number one H three three st d 915 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: w y t K, And when you reach that phone number, 916 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: you'll hear a brief message from us, and then you'll 917 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: have three minutes. Those three minutes are your own. Do 918 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: with them as you will. Uh. It would immensely help 919 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 1: us out if you give yourself a cool nickname and 920 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: let us know whether we have permission to use your 921 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 1: name and or voice on air. UH. Tell us what 922 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: is on your mind. And most importantly, if you have 923 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: a story, especially crypto encounter, that takes more than three minutes, 924 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: do not censor yourself, don't edit or allied your statements. 925 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: Feel free to tell us the entire thing in full. 926 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: We read every single email we get. You can send 927 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: them to our good old fashioned email address where we 928 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: are conspiracy at i heart radio dot com and don't 929 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: edit your video, just send the whole thing. Yeah. Stuff 930 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know is a production of 931 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: I heart Radio. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, 932 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 1: visit the i heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 933 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.