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Speaker 1: Your children should be home. Your kids aren't actually gay,

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Speaker 1: you've just chromed to them. Welcome to It could have

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Speaker 1: happened here today. We are talking about something that did

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Speaker 1: it's possible ramifications going forward and similar subsequent attacks that

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Speaker 1: are most likely going to take place throughout this next month.

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Speaker 1: I'm Garrison Davis. With me is Chris Hello, Ready ready

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Speaker 1: to hear about a lot of threats of genocide and

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of audio clips of fascists. You know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got I got one episode where there was like

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Speaker 1: and so now I'm I'm ready to go back to

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Speaker 1: getting exterminated. This is so this this episode is going

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Speaker 1: to be kind of I don't speak German style, I

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Speaker 1: guess if if we were to compare it to another

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of threats against Pride

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Speaker 1: events over the course of the past month. There's we've

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Speaker 1: we've pointed towards some in Idaho. Uh, there has been

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Speaker 1: the time this episode has dropped, the Gunda Lane event

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Speaker 1: I'm unsure of how that's gone at this point. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: nothing horrible happened. Yeah, but but but if everyone dies,

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Speaker 1: that that's why we're not talking about it because it

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Speaker 1: about an attack on a Pride event in Dallas, Texas

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Speaker 1: that happened on June four, So starting starting kind of

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Speaker 1: Chaia chick Uh, they started a threat titled quote Mega

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Speaker 1: Drag Thread. They say it's innocent. They say it's about

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Speaker 1: or sexualize kids. They lie. Increasingly many on the far

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Speaker 1: right are targeting family friendly drag events, including drag Time

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Speaker 1: story events that libraries across the country. The Gondolate event

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Speaker 1: Texas Kids, who had also declared that they were organizing

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Speaker 1: Less than a week later, the anti queer attacks moved

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Speaker 1: That's John Doyle, a self described Christian fascist, standing outside

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Speaker 1: The first have tried will come down very soon. What

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Speaker 1: a gaggle of far right grifting videographers who quote infiltrated

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Speaker 1: viral propaganda. There was a very good article by Melissa

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Speaker 1: Geara Grant published a few days after the incident titled

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Speaker 1: a Pizza Gate in Every City, with the subheading quote

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Speaker 1: these conspiracy theories were once fringe. Now they're being fueled

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Speaker 1: which which was the venue that the Drike eventic placet

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Speaker 1: called to mind the same fears, if not the same

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Speaker 1: a rifle to quote rescue children from the non existent

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Speaker 1: sex trafficking ring supposedly orchestrated by prominent Democrats. Now a

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Speaker 1: little more than five years later, of Republicans identify as

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Speaker 1: to effectively frame bigoted violence as a moral imperative simply

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Speaker 1: The far right conservatives and fascists who made explicit threats

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Speaker 1: how police should quote go in there and put bullets

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Speaker 1: Don't avertize everything. The sheriff so yeah, that is harkening

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Speaker 1: back to the very real history of police's willingness to

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Speaker 1: enforce homophobic laws, something that these Christian conservatives and fascists

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Speaker 1: I'm sure don't have great opinions on gay people. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I'd really like to just get one

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Speaker 1: word out of you, ma'am, because I mean, you just

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Speaker 1: want to be so silent, but you're so vi hummiently

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Speaker 1: defending this. I mean, do you have anything to say?

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Speaker 1: One more chance? They know they are saying ridiculous things

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Speaker 1: like none of which reads as genuine, Like they know

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00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: the absurdity of their own replies. In their podcasts, they

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Speaker 1: talk about how disgusted they were watching people dance together,

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00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: but in their own videos they're smiling, like relaxed, excited

439
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: about what's going on and how they'll spend whatever is

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00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: happening to boost their career. If they were actually concerned

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Speaker 1: about children, they wouldn't be having little giggle fests will

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Speaker 1: inside events like these, right they call the child grooming event,

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Speaker 1: And they're not acting like there's anything bad happening, like

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Speaker 1: you can say like, oh, they're trying to play cool

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00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: because they're doing infiltration. Like no, they're just being chill

446
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: like they're they're giggling and laughing and looking like look

447
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: at this sea gay people doing these things. I can't

448
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: wait to use footage of this to boost my career

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00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: and misrepresented to a wider audience. We're in this like

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Speaker 1: post irony world in many In many aspects, the level

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00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: of sincerity does not actually matter, right. All it's necessary

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00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: is saying the lines from the script that the audience

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Speaker 1: wants to hear. It's like algorithmically generated politics. You can

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Speaker 1: talk about how victims of sexual abuse should themselves be

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Speaker 1: locked up so they won't go on to abuse of

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Speaker 1: the people in the future. And even though you look

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Speaker 1: at the camera at the end and give a knowing smirk,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because you're just saying the things that

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Speaker 1: are gonna get traction, and you're saying the things that

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Speaker 1: your misogynist audience wants to hear. Here's the turning point.

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Speaker 1: USA Representative Isabelle Riley on the Bla Media podcast, who

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Speaker 1: at the end of the clip does indeed give a

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Speaker 1: very knowing look to camera and a little smirk. Should

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Speaker 1: we lock up people that I've had sexual trauma in

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Speaker 1: their childhood because they tend to become abusers in the future.

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Speaker 1: Also just a few of their notes on this on

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Speaker 1: this Blaze Media podcast. So I I listened to this

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Speaker 1: whole podcast like twice to get to get clips for

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Speaker 1: my coverage here and just to kind of get a

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Speaker 1: sense of what they were doing. Um what one of

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Speaker 1: the speakers on the on the podcast blamed like the

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Speaker 1: recent mass shootings on the presence of nearby sex shops. Um.

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Speaker 1: Some of the videographers who were on the show went

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Speaker 1: on to Alex Jones show the next day. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was it was full of pretty I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was pretty bad homophobic rhetoric, but I mean it's just

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Speaker 1: so ever present that it's hard to even selectively get

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Speaker 1: certain clips of it. Like, they were doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of work to to tie mental illness to gainness, saying

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Speaker 1: that these two things are like intrinsically linked, and that

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Speaker 1: if we just locked up more into mentally ill people

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Speaker 1: in institutions, we wouldn't have as many gay people. I think.

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Speaker 1: The other interesting thing that I found to be really

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Speaker 1: funny in the podcast is that for for their first

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Speaker 1: ad break, they were selling testosterone boosting supplements. So in

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Speaker 1: this in this very like anti trans like podcast, the

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Speaker 1: first product they were selling was supplements to boost your

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Speaker 1: natural mail to stosterone. And it's just very funny because

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Speaker 1: like they're you know, they're talking about how evil a

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Speaker 1: turkey is and how evil and irreversible it is, and

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Speaker 1: then they're also selling things that are supposed to boost

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Speaker 1: testosterone levels. Right, like we are in a post irony world.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't like this anyway. Here's here's one more clip

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Speaker 1: from the podcast talking about how the bigoted community is

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Speaker 1: so diverse, and you'll notice to our group was very diverse,

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Speaker 1: which I think we made this point yesterday as all

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Speaker 1: the bigoted community is so accepting. All you have to

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Speaker 1: be is also bigoted and you're allowed to hang out

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Speaker 1: with us. And so we had this nice mob of

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Speaker 1: well dressed, handsome young guys to go confront these people

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00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: because no one else would. All right, that is that

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00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: is enough of that um On onto our final section

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Speaker 1: of the day. So Texas based journalist Stephen Monticelli reported

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00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: that later that same night of the drag event, incidents

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Speaker 1: that police categorized as terroristic threats of an anti homosexual

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Speaker 1: nature were reported by bar owners in the same neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: After the event, the venue and gay bar released a

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Speaker 1: media statement saying that it's weekly drag brunches are normally

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Speaker 1: for guests who are twenty one and over, but decided

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Speaker 1: to host a special Pride drag brunch for all guests,

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Speaker 1: including those who can't attend other drag shows because of

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Speaker 1: the drinking age restrictions, and as a part to raise

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Speaker 1: money for a local l g b t Q youth organization,

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Speaker 1: adding that it was quote more than happy to open

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Speaker 1: our doors to celebrate pride in a family friendly, safe

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Speaker 1: environment because we believe that everyone should have a space

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Speaker 1: to be able to celebrate who they are. Unquote. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna read another quote from uh. I think

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Speaker 1: this is this is our last quote from piece of

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Speaker 1: gate in every city. Quote the street confrontation to video

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00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: to Fox News to Republican Party pipeline took only a

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Speaker 1: little more than two days to complete. By the next Monday,

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Speaker 1: Texas Republicans state Representative Brian Slayton cited the Protect Texas

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Speaker 1: Kids attack on the Dallas event in his announcement to

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Speaker 1: introduce quote a bill to ban drag shows in the

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Speaker 1: presence of miners in Texas unquote. A Florida state representative

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Speaker 1: pledged to follow suit. US Representatives Marjorie Taylor Green and

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Speaker 1: Lauren Bobbert voiced their support. By then, Protect Texas Kids

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Speaker 1: had already moved on to a new target, an LGBTQ

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Speaker 1: affirming church that was having a service next Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: the group had already announced several more plans to protest

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Speaker 1: LGBTQ spaces this month. What we are already seeing this

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Speaker 1: Pride season is alarming, but it did not come out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere. There's a continuation of campaigns targeting drag Queen

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Speaker 1: story hours. It was fed by Republican attacks on queer

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Speaker 1: and trans kids in the state legislators across the country,

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Speaker 1: and it is coordinated by people on the far right

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Speaker 1: who have names and very specific movement affiliations. As these

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Speaker 1: threats continue, as they generate yet more videos of confrontations,

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Speaker 1: they may also give heft to lie that supporting lgbt

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Speaker 1: Q youth is grooming and that queer community spaces are

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Speaker 1: commercial settings for child abuse. No Republican would say the

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00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: pizza Gate shooter had a point, but now simply based

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Speaker 1: on videos of deliberate confrontations with kids at Pride events,

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Speaker 1: they're happy to co sign unquote. Whilemakers won't be able

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Speaker 1: to consider a Slantin's proposal on a statewide band of

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Speaker 1: kids being around drag performances until the tenth of January,

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Speaker 1: which is when the next Texas legislative session kicks off.

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Speaker 1: But if the no drag around miners lug it's enacted,

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Speaker 1: that could have many many ramifications depending on enforcement. One

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00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: possible scenario is not being allowed to have dray get Pride,

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Speaker 1: or people under the age of eighteen just not being

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Speaker 1: allowed to attend Pride all right, because those if you're

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Speaker 1: having a pride Pride and the drike performers and the

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Speaker 1: kids there, now that's a crying you're all going to jail. Um.

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Speaker 1: You could also just see this as an attempt by

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Speaker 1: Texas to recriminalize cross dressing because by and large, drag

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Speaker 1: shows and events are usually taking place at twenty one

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Speaker 1: and up bars. Right, generally unless it's the drag time storytime,

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00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: stuff like drags not around kids super often, right, and

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Speaker 1: including like very like non sexual dragons. That's just because

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Speaker 1: of because of how work around bars. Usually those things

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00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: don't have much crossover. But that's not what they're targeting though, right.

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Speaker 1: They just don't want gay people or men in dresses

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Speaker 1: to be around kids. Right. If you're seen cross dressing

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Speaker 1: while a child is nearby, now that's a drag show.

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Speaker 1: You're going to jail. And if you think a ban

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Speaker 1: on quote drag in front of children won't be applied

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Speaker 1: to just trans people existing in public. Then again, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you because depending on how

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Speaker 1: they define what drag is like, they're not limiting this

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Speaker 1: to like drag shows. They're talking about men in dresses

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Speaker 1: like that. That's that's what it's going to be. Because

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Speaker 1: they're targeting library events, they're targeting events in public. It's

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Speaker 1: not it's not about like drag shows with tickets and stuff.

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00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: It's about men wearing dresses or you know, in the

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Speaker 1: in the case the trans people just existing. Here, here's

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Speaker 1: the helm of Hublic Avengers talking about the introduced legislation

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00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: after they're little propaganda campaign. But wow, the guys, we

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Speaker 1: really did and I'm not trying to pat ourselves on

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00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: the back, but which Brian Slaton with the legislation he's

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00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: trying to put through exposing these people, we really did

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Speaker 1: take a wt in the culture battle. We didn't win

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00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: the culture warrior. I don't think I've ever seen such

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Speaker 1: enough I mean an after effect of an event, I

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00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: mean in positivity for us. I mean, I don't think

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00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, you know, a bunch of journalists go

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00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: and expose an event like this and then have actual

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00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: legislation drafted almost immediately after. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: new sphere that we're entering in, and I think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we got a freaking role with Yeah. I really hope

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Speaker 1: that the momentum is maintained to close off I'm gonna

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00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna riff off a point made by Stephen Moncelli.

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Speaker 1: At what point will become clear to those in media

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00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: who run quotes or use selective footage from these people

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00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: that intentionally obscure the extreme nature of their beliefs. Right,

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00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: These these are not like simple economic conservatives. However, if

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00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: contemporary mainstream conservatives are willing to accept this sort of

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00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: politicy x in their movement, then it's the case that

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00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: mainstream conservatism in America has become almost indistinguishable from fascism.

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00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: Much of the coverage of the protest of this Pride

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00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: event gives credibility to the fascist side, basically endorsing their

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Speaker 1: homophobic framing, positioning the drag performers as somehow inherently sexual

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Speaker 1: for wearing them outfits and doing dances that are in

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Speaker 1: reality more conservative than your basic high school cheerleading team.

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Speaker 1: Mainstream media and pundance and even some leftist ones quote

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00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: like quote unquote leftist pundance fell for the bait and

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00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: treated kids playing musical chairs with people in drag and

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Speaker 1: giving the performers cash from their parents as more inappropriate

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Speaker 1: than the mob of open fascists hurling verbal abuse at

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Speaker 1: kids and chasing them down as they head to their cars.

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Speaker 1: So that is my little rite up on what has

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Speaker 1: happened in Dallas last week. Um, they are the Protect

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00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: Texas Kids group is planning more and more events in

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00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: Texas for for four Pride months. It's they're they're they're

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00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: they're targeting not just events with kids, they're also targeting

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Speaker 1: twenty one and up drag brunches, they're targeting churches. They're

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00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: doing the bit right there, doing the thing, and people

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Speaker 1: really fell for the bait on this one. People really did. Um.

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Speaker 1: If I've seen all of the videos from the events,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing inherently sexual about these people's style of dancing.

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00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: There's nothing inherently sexual about their outfits. Right, playing with

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00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: gender isn't inherently sexual. It's playing with gender. It's those

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00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: are those are two different things? Um So, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of a lot of people

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00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: fell fell for the bit um. A lot of people

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00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: took the bait. We're sharing photos and being like, look

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00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: at this, how can you defend this? So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: defend what. It's people dancing, you would see, you would

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Speaker 1: see it's it's the dances are not like, they're not

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Speaker 1: about sex, they're not imitating sex acts. It's just it's

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00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: fun and chill um. People got really mad that there

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Speaker 1: was there was a sign at the at the venue

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00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: that was an innuendo, and there's a ice cream shop

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00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: like a block away from the venue with the very

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Speaker 1: same sign. Um, they're not actually mad about that, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's not what they're actually mad about, because you can

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00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: walk down the street and look at so many, so

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Speaker 1: many things there innuendoes if you want. If you watch

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Speaker 1: a Pixar movie right they're there will there will be innuendos.

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Speaker 1: That's not what they're talking about. They're talking about gay

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Speaker 1: people being around kids. And I would like for people

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Speaker 1: to stop falling for debate anyway. I'm We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: doing another episode on the City of Hate, on the

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Speaker 1: homophobic stuff in Dallas later later this week, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about Steadfast Church I'm still writing that

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Speaker 1: episode at the moment, but I'm planning to put that

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Speaker 1: out later this week as well, And depending how the

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Speaker 1: Gunderline event went to Idaho and the various other things,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be talking more about this type of

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Speaker 1: stuff as as Pride goes on. So, yeah, Chris, any

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the word of ament, I just gave it

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Speaker 1: for the past forty minutes, you know, and mostly just

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's it's we. We We've somehow

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Speaker 1: managed to create a version of like the like worst

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00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: at parts of like the queer bashing two thousand's, but

657
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: like even worse because now there's there's an even larger

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00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: media cycle around it. And like, I think it's worth

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Speaker 1: mentioning that, like one of the ways that stuff ended

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Speaker 1: was that like a lot of people, most of them

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Speaker 1: were like like systems, straight right people. A bunch of

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Speaker 1: people who weren't queer We're just like literally fucked this

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Speaker 1: and started attacking people back. And you know, you see

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Speaker 1: the working clas neighborhoods right that there there'd be a

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Speaker 1: period of time where you have these evangelical churches who

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Speaker 1: are just you know, like openly in setting attacks on

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Speaker 1: people and how they got the ship beat out of

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Speaker 1: him by a bunch of working class kids and that's

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Speaker 1: when that ship stopped. And unless we fucking fight these people,

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Speaker 1: they're going to keep doing this until people start getting murdered.

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Speaker 1: And I guess I know a more positising to end

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Speaker 1: on would be saying big thank you to everyone who

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Speaker 1: showed up to physically oppose this UM. When I was

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Speaker 1: listening to the Homophobic Avengers podcast, John Doyle said that

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Speaker 1: there was a few points where he was scared UM.

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Speaker 1: There were some people who some some people wearing like

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Speaker 1: Pride bandanas and stuff who had handguns UM, and he

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00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: did not John Doyle did not like that. At one

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Speaker 1: point he talked about how he was heading to his

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Speaker 1: car and there was in the counter the counter demonstrators

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00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: were following him to make sure he was actually going

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Speaker 1: to leave UM and he saw that some of the

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00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: people were carrying UM and he freaked out. He screamed

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Speaker 1: for police and he said that these people were threatening

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00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: to shoot him UM, which is mean just an attempt

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00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: to get police to shoot the Canadams traders right like

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's just it's John Doyle screaming, these

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00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: people have guns, they're trying to shoot me, right And

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Speaker 1: even though they were, they weren't even holding their guns.

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Speaker 1: They were they were, they were, they were just having guns.

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00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: But like these people can be scared. And again, no

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Speaker 1: one was even violent against John Doyle. That was just

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Speaker 1: people who were who were carrying standing near him. UM.

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Speaker 1: And I just big thank you to everybody who showed

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Speaker 1: up to try to prevent these fascists from chasing down

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Speaker 1: these kids, from hurling abuse at these kids. UM. I

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Speaker 1: would recommend you follow uh the Elm Fork John Brown

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00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: Gun Club on Twitter. They did a really good job

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00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: documenting this. UM. And then for this stuff in Idaho,

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00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: you can follow Redoubt anti Fascists. UM. Those those would

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00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: be the two the two people I say to follow

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Speaker 1: on Twitter right now. UM for tracking these attacks on

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Speaker 1: pride in Texas and inside Idaho. UM. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, yeah, I guess The last thing I would

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Speaker 1: say is just like it's important to remember that unlike

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Speaker 1: a lot of the periods in Queer history, like these

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00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: people are actually a minority, and and like they're trying

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00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: to regress, right, like they we've already got to this

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00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: point they're trying to pull it back. Yeah, this is

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00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: kind of a new thing, but it's like but yeah,

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00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: but it's like this something like we like on unlike

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Speaker 1: the fucking seventies, Like we are actually the solent majority

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Speaker 1: here and if enough people fucking show up, and just like,

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Speaker 1: these people need to be framed as Yeah, I excuse

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Speaker 1: my I guess semi ablest language here, but like ideal

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Speaker 1: with my ideal, mental ideal with mental health issues of

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Speaker 1: my own. But like, these people need need to be

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00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: framed as wack us, right, they these people need need

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00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: to be framed as framed. These people need to be

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00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: framed as as crazy extremists. They need they need to

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00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: be belittled, they need to be put down, they need

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Speaker 1: to be they need to be viewed as as as

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Speaker 1: as pathetic as is scared. Right Like that that's the

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00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: way to do successful proprianda framing, um, because they need

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00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: to be they need to stay outside the majority, right

726
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: like they need to be mothered. That's the way to

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Speaker 1: win this, right that That's the thing they always that's

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00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: the thing they always try to do, right, That's why

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00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: they always try to frame gay people as being severely

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Speaker 1: mentally ill. A the time, right like that that that's

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Speaker 1: all what they try to do. And because enough of

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00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: progress has happened, we we just need to defend the

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Speaker 1: line that is already drawn. Because like like I said before, right,

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Speaker 1: like these people are not regular economic conservatives, right, but

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Speaker 1: if mainstream and conservatism is going to be isnt is

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Speaker 1: going to continue to accept this politics in their movement,

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Speaker 1: then mainstream conservatism will be the same as fascism. Right,

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Speaker 1: So you need to point at the people, like John

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Speaker 1: Doyle pointed, the people who call themselves Christian fascists and

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00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: be so demeaning to them, um and so making them

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00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: feel so separate from every part of regular social life.

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00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: And because their whole goal is to integrate themselves into

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Speaker 1: the larger conservative movement, integrate themselves into larger American politics,

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Speaker 1: and that can't happen. It could Happen Here is a

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