1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace and influencer What is that think? 2 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian, Chloe Courtney Kardashian, The Mom Chris Jenner. If 3 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: they so much as hold up a can of soda 4 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: or jar of face cream, it sells out. If they 5 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: wear a certain shirt or jacket, or perfume or makeup, 6 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: it's guaranteed to be a success because they influence people 7 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: that are looking at them on social media. So how 8 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: does a beautiful young influencer just twenty six years old 9 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: end up dead on the side of the road, completely unclothed, 10 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: with no sign a visible injury. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 11 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: Here's the police are investigating the death of a woman 12 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: whose nude body was found on the side of the road. 13 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Police say a public works employee discovered the body off 14 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: Red Hall Lane near I ten at about eight o'clock 15 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: this morning. They say she had no visible injuries. The 16 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: medical examiner will determine because of death and ID. The 17 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: victim is described as a white woman in her early twenties. 18 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: If you know anything about this, you're asked to please 19 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: call HPD Homicide or crime stoppers. How did Alexis sharky 20 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: this gorgeous young influence her and back naked, dead on 21 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: the side of the road, her feet sticking out in 22 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: from the bushes. Let me induce you are all star 23 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: panel joining us to make sense of it all. First 24 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: of all, judge and trial lawyer, Court TV anchor Ashley Wilcott, 25 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: psychoanalyst to the stars, joining me out of Beverly Hills. 26 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall at Doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Jice 27 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, an author of 28 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, star of a brand 29 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: new program on the True Crime Network, Poisonous Liaisons. But 30 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: first to Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter Levi Page, 31 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: what can you tell me about? Who is Alexis Shark? 32 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at her photo. She's stunning. So she's twenty 33 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: six years old. Nancy. She's originally from Pennsylvania, but she 34 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: had a dream ever since she was a child, of 35 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: living in the South, so she moved in January of 36 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Texas. She loved the long summers, the 37 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: mild winners, the warmer weather, and she loved to both. 38 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: And with the weather, you can vote more down in 39 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: the South. So she's twenty six years old and she's 40 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: an Instagram influencer, and that's someone that's paid to endorse products. 41 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: And she was very health conscious and she loved selling 42 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: organic healthcare products, makeup, hair styling. And she graduated from 43 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: college with a major in biology, so she would be 44 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: able to determine whether the ingredients of the products that 45 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: she's selling were good for you or not. So she 46 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: put her skills to use, and that's who she is. 47 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Alex's sharky naked body was found on the side of 48 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: a Houston road. And we have just unearthed a photo 49 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: believed to be the last known image of Alexis and 50 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: it shows her with a big smile on her face 51 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: with friends. So how does she go from that photo 52 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: to being on the side of the road, no visible 53 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: sign of injury and naked. You know, I want to 54 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: go through the timeline. Let's start at the beginning. So 55 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: I know that on Thanksgiving Day, Levi, she was speaking 56 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: or texting back and forth with her mother a lot. 57 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: They were talking about their plans for Christmas. I also 58 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: know that, according to her husband, forty nine year old 59 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Tom Sharkey, her maiden name is Alexis Robino. Tom Sharkey 60 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: said he had a morning meal with her on Thanksgiving Day. Now, 61 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: now just stop just a moment, right there. Hold on, 62 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, Ashley Willcott, you and I have just celebrated 63 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving with our families. I never thought of Thanksgiving breakfast. 64 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm the same. I noticed that little fact as well, 65 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: because we don't do Thanksgiving breakfast simply because I guess 66 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: we're cooking everything for huge meal. So it's kind of 67 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: an interesting thing, isn't it. And those are the little details. 68 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I love you just mentioned that because in a case 69 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: like this, you have to look at all of the details. Now, 70 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: let's think about this. What does that mean she didn't 71 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: have Thanksgiving lunch or dinner with anybody? Because as an influencer, right, 72 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: you would think she would have Like this, beautiful Martha 73 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: Stewart moment. I mean, think this through. You know, Jessica Morgan, 74 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: I remember prosecuting a Jane Doe murder and I went 75 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: over and over and over the scene of her what 76 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: I believe to be at least a tertiary crime scene. 77 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: And there was a one earring in a certain location, 78 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: and based on that one earring and its location. I 79 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: could do deuce so many things about what happened. So 80 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: Joe Scott, just bear with me on this. An influencer 81 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't load up her social media with you know, 82 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: the beautiful turkey. And you just heard Levi say she 83 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: studied by out biology, majored in it, and she was 84 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: very concerned about what would be good for the people 85 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: that followed her. She had thousands of followers. I would 86 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: think she would have like organic dressing and like a 87 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: vegetarian meal or turkey cook some special way, and then 88 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: we'd see this table with her standing there being all beautiful, 89 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: which doesn't make take much because she's beautiful naturally, but 90 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: that tells me something, Joe Scott. Yeah, and we have 91 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: to we have to look at it through her lens. 92 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: To Nancy. You know, she's I don't know, in her 93 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: mid twenties, and those things might not hold the same 94 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: importance to her as they do to us. A minute, 95 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Yeah, I agree with you. But at 96 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: least if she's not gonna have the Thanksgiving turkey and 97 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: all that, I would at least imagine her she makes 98 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: her living on social media, at least having her and 99 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: her friends or her and her husband out, you know, 100 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: toasting a mimosa or I don't know what influencers do, 101 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: but I do know this. They post about it all 102 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: the time. I mean, and they you know what, you're 103 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: a death investigator. Why am I talking to you? Excuse me, 104 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: your honor. I've called the wrong witness, doctor Bethany Mark, 105 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: no offense. Just got doctor Bethany Marshall. And is this 106 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: making any sense of what I'm trying to say? Absolutely? Nancy, 107 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: did you hear what she gets? It? Okay? I understanding 108 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: saying it very well. I know that you explain, Mark, Bethany, 109 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: can you explain what they're trying to say? Bethany did 110 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: a lot of little details that are standing out to me. 111 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: The biggest one, of course, is that she's an influencer, 112 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: and as you said, she hasn't taken the opportunity to 113 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: have this Martha Stewart moment to be beautiful, have her husband, 114 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: her family gathered around, or her friends, even if she 115 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving, and who doesn't. All everybody in the 116 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: twenties knows about Thanksgiving, you know, to at least have 117 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: her home beautiful or the table beautiful, that's her husband's 118 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: twenty three years older than her. I don't know. I 119 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: can't get that one out of my mind. She's an influencer. 120 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: They've only been married for a year. She's taken his 121 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: last name. They got married December twenty nineteen. Ah, such 122 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: a big okay. So and she's an influencer, but she 123 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: took his name. So when you're an an influencer, you 124 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: keep your maiden name, because that's how she built up 125 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: her followers. And then the idea of the morning meal. 126 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes on Thanksgiving, my family will have a special little 127 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: breakfast because you know, nephews and nieces and you know, 128 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: relatives have come into town and you want to tide 129 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: everybody over until the afternoon meal. But we don't call 130 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: it a morning meal. It's like we had a quick 131 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: time together or a quick you know what, doctor Bethany, 132 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: I hear you. But on Thanksgiving when I'm in there 133 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: with we had dueling turkeys this year. My husband did 134 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: a green egg and I did it in the oven. Basically, 135 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: tall the twins don't eat one bite because I want 136 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: you to eat this turkey and dressing that I'm making. Okay, 137 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: you can have one bite, because I'm always trying to 138 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: get them to eat, but on Thanksgiving they gotta weight. 139 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: Of course they didn't, by the way, for Thanksgiving, but 140 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: it just it just it just struck me oddly that 141 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: we didn't see the influencing going on on Thanksgiving Day 142 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about this 143 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: gorgeous young social influencer. She had thousands and thousands of followers, 144 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: and she's ended up dead on the side of the road, 145 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: completely naked and no sign of visible injury. But she 146 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: is dead, nonetheless. Another thing about why I want to 147 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: know where she was at lunch and dinner is to 148 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: help me set a timeline. Leavi page, What can you 149 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: tell me about the timeline? Wasn't she supposed to meet 150 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: up with some of her friend girls from movie Day? 151 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: Didn't they go out to movies on a certain day? 152 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: You're collit, Nancy. So Thanksgiving she spent Thanksgiving with friends? Well, 153 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: how do you know that? That's what her friends are saying. 154 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: So she was alive and well on Thanksgiving, Yeah, they 155 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: said they last saw her at six pm Thanksgiving date, okay, 156 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: and then on Black Friday, Black Friday, they got nervous, 157 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: And we're a little suspicious because that's when influencers also 158 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: they have Black Friday sales and they promote products on Instagram. 159 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: I didn't even think that she had gone. She went 160 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: completely silent on Instagram and they filed the police report. Okay, 161 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: hold on, let me get my mind around this, because 162 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: Ashley Willcott, it's your family tradition that you hit the 163 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: malls or the boutiques with your daughter on Black Friday shopping. 164 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: It's not anything that I enjoy at all. I'm bored 165 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: out of my brain just trumping endlessly round and round 166 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: a mall or a store looking for what what do 167 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean? I don't even know you and your daughter 168 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: love it. I hopefully have brainwashed my daughter not to 169 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: love it. But apparently I'm in the minority. Black Friday 170 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: is huge, and you turn it into a fun day 171 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: with your daughter. It's kind of like a scavenger hunt. 172 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: I think. So He's right, Ashley, I didn't think of 173 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: that for an influencer. Black Friday would be one of 174 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: the biggest days of your year. Absolutely, So first of all, 175 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: let me just suggest the reason it is. It is 176 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: one of my favorite days, and I love it because 177 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: the deals are so good. Honestly, we can wait and 178 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: get clothes that she are trending, that are popular, that 179 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: are the name Brahms and on a good prisis so 180 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: it is our and maybe the only time of the 181 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: year I buy her clothes, No kidding, But my point 182 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: is I would think a twenty six year old influencer 183 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: who dresses beautifully if you look, I'm not beautifully, it's 184 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: the right word. She is immaculate in her appearance, right, 185 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: And so the clothes she wears what I wear at 186 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: my age, you know. But she always looks beautiful, and 187 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: she wears the things that kids are going to want 188 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: to where and are going to look at and say, 189 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: I want to look like that. So to me, Black Friday, 190 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: posting all of the good deals, showing everyone what the 191 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: trends are would be a prime opportunity for a beautiful, 192 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: well dressed influencer. So I was all hung up that 193 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see her posting on Thanksgiving. And then in 194 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: my mind, the timeline went from Thanksgiving morning meal with 195 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: husband too Black Friday, when she didn't meet up with 196 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: her friends for the movie. Now, Leavi page, you're helping 197 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: me to narrow down that timeline. She was alive and 198 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: well at six and I believe that was when she 199 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: was talking to her mom about what their Christmas plans 200 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: were going to be. Now, what time was the movie 201 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: meet up leave my page that she missed. I'm not 202 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: positive about the exact time, Nancy, but her friends have 203 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: said that she stopped responding to their text messages around 204 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: six pm on Friday. And her husband also says that 205 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: Friday is the last time that he saw her alive 206 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: as well. Now tell me what the forty nine year 207 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: old husband, Tom Sharkey says about the last time he 208 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: saw his wife. So he said that he last saw 209 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: his wife. He doesn't give an exact timeframe, what time 210 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: of day it was, And he says that they had 211 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: a disagreement and she left, and she left without her vehicle. 212 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: What she left? What was she gonna walk? That? That 213 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: is what he's claiming. He said that she'd been drinking 214 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: and he told her not to drive because she's been drinking. 215 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: This is according to him. We don't know that for 216 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: a fact, but that's what he says. Okay, um leavi page. 217 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: How could she go anywhere in that area is Houston 218 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: right without her car? Yes, you're correct, Nancy, you need 219 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: a car. To get around there, and she apparently did 220 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: not leave in her car. Did not leave within her car. 221 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: All right, guys, take a listen to this. We know 222 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: homicide detectives. They're looking at surveillance video of cars going 223 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: up and down this road near I ten. They're trying 224 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: to figure out how body ended up in this brush. Now, 225 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: it was Saturday morning when a garbage truck driver he 226 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: noticed feet coming up from the bushes. He called this 227 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: into nine one one. You know, clearly the way she 228 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: disposed was disposed tells us a lot. Her body then 229 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: is spotted on Saturday morning. So, Joe Scott way In, 230 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: you're the death investigator, what does this tell you? Well, 231 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: listen to what this guy just said Nancy and the report. 232 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: He's very specific. He says that the garbage truck employee 233 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: looked over in self, feet sticking up, so he's in 234 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: an observable position that has a clear point of view. Remember, 235 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: these trucks are up high. He can see. But the 236 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: one thing I can tell you about this case and 237 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: about this body is it would appear that no one, 238 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: and I mean no one, made any effort to conceal her. 239 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,479 Speaker 1: You know, you're on a thoroughfare here, Nancy. So essentially 240 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: all you have to do is you don't even have 241 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: to come to a complete stop. You can have somebody 242 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: in the front seat with you and you can just 243 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: push them off and they're gonna be in that exact 244 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: position potentially, Or you can feign having a car malfunction 245 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: or something and just kind of quietly take a body out, 246 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: throw the body on the side of the road, and 247 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: then just drive away. They're on the itin corridor, Nancy. 248 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: It's one of the busiest corridors in the United States. 249 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: It's on the internet, on the interstate system. Nobody's gonna 250 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean, how many times do you actually pay attention 251 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: to anybody when you're driving seventy five miles per hour 252 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: down the interstate. Do you actually watch and see what 253 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: they're doing on the side of the road. No, You're 254 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: about your business. So in one way, the body's kind 255 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: of hiding in plain sight. Well put, here she is 256 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: completely naked, no visible sign of injury, yet she's dead 257 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: on the side of the road. Now I'm still working 258 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: on the timeline. You were just hearing Steve Campion at 259 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: kat RK TV earlier a KHOUTV eleven Houston. But now 260 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: take and listen to the Houston, Texas Police spokesperson. Okay, 261 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: so officers were dispatched to a found cs female of 262 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: the one thousand block of Redhawk. This was at around 263 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: eight eight o'clock this morning. So it's a new female 264 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: and that's all we have. We don't have any information 265 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: on her yet, so if anybody knows her, give us 266 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: a call. At this point, Augun was a white female, 267 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: early twenties, and right now the medical seminars is working 268 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: on getting an id on her. I'm also understanding that 269 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: it was a side road, that it was actually off 270 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: the interstate, a side road off the interstate, because it's 271 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: very doubtful that a garbage collectors collecting garbage off the interstate. 272 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: So this this is a side road near that I 273 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: ten corridor. Then you've got the whole problem with the rain, 274 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: which changes the scene. Take a listen again to the 275 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: Houston spokesperson who fired. Uh, it was a City of 276 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: Houston public service. They were driving by and they saw 277 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: the feet of female in the bushes. Wire back fighting shooting. 278 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: No shoe is naked on the road. We're not on 279 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: the road, but on the side of the road. Tide up. No, no, sir, 280 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: no abyssible injury said this point. So medical Examblers is 281 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: going to be doing to follow up on that time 282 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace shooting in a shoe to make 283 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: it on the road. We're not on the road, but 284 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: on the side of the road. No disimal injuries on 285 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: Medical Examba is going to be doing fallow up on 286 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: that not tied up. No visible injuries. So question what 287 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: happened to alexis sharky. You know you can hear the 288 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: rain distortion in that sound. To Joseph skuy Morgan, how 289 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: will nearly torrential rain affect the scene, Well, let's let's 290 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: think about the central theme of the scene, and that 291 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: is the remain So if you have any kind of 292 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: trace evidence that is on the surface of the body, 293 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: keep in mind, Nancy, according to what they're saying, we're 294 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: absent any kind of clothing. This is a nude body, 295 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: so we don't have the opportunity to even have the 296 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: shelter or protection of clothing. We're not going to have 297 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: any kind of trace evidence on clothing. So therefore the body, 298 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: the bare body, is going to to be exposed to 299 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: all of the elements, any fibers that are there, potentially 300 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: any blood. Hey, Nancy, we've got a nude female. There 301 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: might be a semen that was left behind that is 302 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: at risk of leaving the body as well. Now, the 303 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: one upside with this that I can say is that 304 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: since we have rain, there is a high probability that 305 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: maybe the soil was dry prior to the rain. We 306 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: might be able to collect, say, for instance, impressions left 307 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: by tires and also by feet that are at the scene, 308 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: whereas before if it had been dry, that might not 309 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: have been accomplished. So there's good and bad with this, 310 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: But we have to keep in mind that evidence has 311 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: the potential to be lost. It is very fragile. It's 312 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: washed away. Unless under your original scenario, jose Scott Morgan, 313 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: she was pushed from the car because her feet were closest, 314 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: because the feet were sticking out of the bushes, and 315 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that they were closest to the road. Her 316 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: head was further away, as if she had just been 317 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: shoved out of a car, which would preclude tire or 318 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: she marks. But we'll see. Now we're hearing about video cameras. 319 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: Listen about any wives instead when anybody help the surveillanceing. 320 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: We are working on surveillance at this moment. There's one 321 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: business that it does have some things. We haven't looked 322 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: at it yet and we're still gathering information, gathering video. 323 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: How long it hasn't mean it's too long, so we're 324 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: thinking overnight. You know, I want to talk about potential 325 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: video surveillance LEAVI page. What is he talking about? So 326 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: there's a cosmetic store that's located on me Boreal West 327 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: Road and it faces the roadway where the body was discovered, 328 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: and police have seized surveillance footage and are reviewing that 329 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: footage to see if they can get any clues from it. 330 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: Is it close enough to see where her body was? 331 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: I am not positive. I know that it's yards away. 332 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: I think it would probably be depending on the camera, 333 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: and that it was facing the road. You know. To 334 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining us from LA and you 335 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Bethany, 336 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: the fact that she was it sounds like pushed out 337 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: of a car unceremoniously and naked tells me a lot 338 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: as a psychoanalyst. What does it tell you was any 339 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: evidence on the clothing why the person would need to 340 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: take off her clothing. I was also wondering about a 341 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: sex attack, Nancy. I know it's terrible to go backwards 342 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: in a story, but something is sticking in my mind. 343 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: I cannot get it out of my mind. That is 344 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: that her husband, the husband who's twenty three years older 345 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: than her, says that he wouldn't let her drive the 346 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: car are because she had been drinking. If she was drinking, 347 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: that would of course make her very vulnerable. On the 348 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: other hand, you know the saying don't speak ill of 349 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: the dead when a spouse whose partner has gone missing 350 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: already starts to devalue that spouse, Oh, she was drunk. 351 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't let her get in the car. You know 352 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: she took off on foot. Why devalue or make devaluing 353 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: inflammatory statements about a partner who's gone missing? That behavioral 354 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: of evidence is so important to me. I would want 355 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: to know more about the state of mind of a 356 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: husband and the state of the marriage. Back to you, 357 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the timeline leave page. 358 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: So Thanksgiving came in past and she spent that with 359 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: her friends, not her husband. Is that correct, You are correct. 360 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: And then the day after Thanksgiving, her husband said that 361 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: she was at the apartment and she left. But there 362 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: is a text message that one of her friend's boyfriends 363 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: got from her husband and it said, this is Chelsea Turnbow, 364 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: her friend. She told Fox twenty six in Houston, Tom, 365 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: which is her husband, texted my boyfriend at eleven pm 366 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: Friday night and told him me and Lex got into 367 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: an argument and she left. I don't know where she went. 368 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Can you please just let me know if you know anything, 369 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: leave a page. I want to circle back to what 370 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: you said about the timeline. That's what I was asking about. 371 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: When does a husband say he saw her last Friday 372 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: night and he doesn't give a specific time Friday night 373 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: when you last saw her, When does he? Weird? Jump 374 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: in Nancy, I'm so sorry, that's weird. I'm sorry you 375 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know a specific time that you lost last saw 376 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: your spouse. Typically, in my appearance, you can find you 377 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: can figure that out. Whether it's because something was on 378 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: your phone, they message you, they tweeted, whatever it is, 379 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: it's your spouse, you live with them, you live in 380 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: the same home. I automatically, as a judge, would think, wait, 381 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: a minute, Why can't they say what time they lost 382 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: saw their spouse? Time stories with Nancy Grace. You guys, 383 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: we were talking about the death, the mysterious death of 384 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: Alex's Sharky, and I'm trying to nail down this timeline. 385 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: So on Saturday, what if any communication LEVI was had 386 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: with Alexas Sharkey. No, and she had stopped responding to 387 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: text messages Friday around six pm. Okay, when the husband 388 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: contacts the girlfriend's husband or boyfriend, what time is that 389 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: on Friday night? Eleven pm? So at eleven pm he 390 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: says she left. Okay, Then he says, I don't know 391 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: where she is. Can you just please let me know 392 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: if you know anything. Guys, take a listen to our 393 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: friends at KTRK. She was literally a ray of sunshine 394 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: from the beginning. At twenty six years young, Alexas Sharkey 395 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: lost her life. Her mother, Stacy Robinalt, who lives out 396 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: of state in Pennsylvania, said her daughter went missing Friday night. Today, 397 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Houston police identified the woman found dead and naked on 398 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: Saturday morning on red Haw Street as Alexis Sharkey. Over 399 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: the weekend, they said there weren't obvious injuries, no obvious injuries. 400 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: How can you be dead on the side of the 401 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: road and make it and have no obvious injuries? You 402 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: were just hearing our friends Steve Campion, who's been on 403 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: the case from the very very beginning, to Joe Scott Morgan. 404 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: That may puzzle many many people. The reality is there 405 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: are many modes of death that do not leave visible injuries. Yeah, yeah, 406 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: there certainly are. Let's say you've got somebody that is 407 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: that has been drugged, for instance, some money that's been 408 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: injected with something, somebody that has been given a drink 409 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: that's laced with something. You're not going to see obvious 410 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: signs of trauma. I think for our timeline though, Nancy, 411 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: One are the really critical things here. One of the 412 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: things that we really have to look to is the science. 413 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: At what level or what degree were the changes of 414 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: death taking place in this body? You know, because that 415 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: can help us with the PMI, which is the postmortem 416 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: interval level of riger mortis, the level of algor mortis okay, 417 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: which is the body temperature changes, and the postmortem lavidity, 418 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: which is settling in a blood. But there's one more 419 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: thing here, Nancy, that's a real nugget that we have 420 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: to explore. I'm very curious, particularly since they have not 421 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: released a cause of death yet. I'm really curious as 422 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: to know what were her stomach contents. I'd like to 423 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: know what she had on board. This can also give 424 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: us an indication of time because it takes dependent upon 425 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: the type of meal the individual eats and their level 426 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: of health, it generally takes about two to four hours 427 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: for the stomach to actually empty into the small intestine. 428 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: So we know that if she in fact had food 429 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: on board that was in her tummy, okay, in her 430 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: stomach and it's still there when they conduct this, we 431 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: know that she will have died within two to four 432 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: hours at having it last ingested a meal. So that's 433 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: going to be a real big piece of this. You know, 434 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm very curious about the contents of her stomach as well, 435 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: and you're telling me it would take two to four 436 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: hours for the food to be digested, well for the 437 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: food to literally pass from the stomach into the small intestine, 438 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: so that kind of freezes freezes that in time now 439 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: for it to pass all the way from the small 440 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: intestine to the large intestine. It's gonna you're looking at 441 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: about maybe a six hour window, and of course depended 442 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: upon the person's health, the type of food that they eat, 443 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. These things are kind of variable, 444 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: so there are no hard static markers, but there are 445 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: things that we look for at the morgue. You know, 446 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: all that is incredibly interesting, Josco Morgan, Can I just 447 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: break it down to a more common and fundamentally easy 448 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: to understand aspect. I guarantee you when she stopped responding 449 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: to texts. She's a social media influencer. She's constantly online. 450 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: That's what you do as a social media influencer. When 451 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: she stopped responding to text she was dead or unconscious 452 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: or on her way to being dead. I think that's 453 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: a fair to say. What do you make of that? 454 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: Asked Willcott Apps. Absolutely, I think that's a fair thing 455 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: to say, and you know, keep it's in mind, Nancy. 456 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: Here's the thing I have to say. You always start 457 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: with the people that know someone when they're found dead, right, 458 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: But as an influencer, think about how many people know 459 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: her or think they know her because of everything she 460 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: posts that she doesn't know and has no idea who 461 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: they are, So all the sudden you've got a body 462 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: with no marks, no bruises, no visible injuries by all reports, 463 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: and you've got an ever never ending, rather group of 464 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: people who are watching everything she does because she is 465 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: posting all That phone is her right arm. And there 466 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: is such a thing as routine evidence. And by that 467 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't mean standard evidence, I mean evidence of your routine. 468 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: For instance, this morning, I saw my daughter Lucy had 469 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: left her cell phone in the kitchen on the kitchen island. 470 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: That never happens. Never would she leave that behind. They're 471 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: not allowed to have it on at school. If they 472 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: catch you using it at school, it's taken away and 473 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: put in a box of the principal's office, like as 474 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: being buried in a casket. So they don't even use 475 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: at school. But I guess she just wants to know 476 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: at center backpack. So that was very unusual. It's not 477 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: her routine. I guarantee you it's not Alexis Sharkey's routine 478 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: not to respond to social media. I want you to 479 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: take another listen to Steve Campion at Katie RK and 480 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: let me remind everyone the husband in this case, forty 481 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: nine year old Tom's Sharkey, has declared his innocence. He 482 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: stated he's getting death threats because of this and that 483 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with his wife's disappearance or death. 484 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: Listen to this. There's two tales emerging this afternoon about 485 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: Alexis and Tom Sharkey's marriage. Friends who said it was 486 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: on the rocks. Her husband who called it strong, telling 487 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: me Alexis was his life partner and they were not 488 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: filing for divorce. We've learned the nature of that marriage 489 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: is now part of hbd's investigation. Detectives working to learn 490 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: the truth. You know, I want to go back to 491 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: movie night. I'm hung up on these minor details. Leavi page. 492 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: It was the friends that I think reported her missing 493 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: when she didn't show up from movies. They went to 494 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: her apartment, banged on the door and nobody came. Who 495 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: exactly called nine one one her friends. We don't know 496 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: which friends, but we know that it was friends that 497 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: reporter or missing, not her husband. Do we have an 498 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: idea of the time of that nine on one call. 499 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: We know that they became suspicious after six pm when 500 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: she quit answering her text messages, so it was in 501 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: the evening or at night. According to Steve Campion, KTRKTV thirteen. 502 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: There were two very different images of their marriage. You know, 503 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: a bad marriage does not a murderer make. Let's focus 504 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: on the hard forensics, and I'm talking about that video. 505 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Ivory Hecker with Fox twenty six. 506 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: That's her villance video that police had obtained from the 507 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: one business that was on that road. Well, her body 508 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: was dumped right off the interstate. Who was actually a 509 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: pretty secluded area off the interstate, this small narrow road 510 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: with only one business on it, mostly fields there, but 511 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: the business was a beauty salon. They had a camera 512 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: facing the roadway. I'm told by people close to this 513 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: case that there was a car spotted on that surveillance video. 514 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: So now it's going to be the question of who 515 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: was in that car that was just right nearby the 516 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: ditch where Alexis Sharkey's body was found Saturday morning. Straight 517 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: back to doctor Bethany Marshall, you would think it would 518 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: be as easy as determining who was driving that car. 519 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: But how many times have we seen surveillance video not 520 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: pan out? Again, the husband is insisting her friends had 521 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: the wrong image of their marriage. What do you make 522 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: of it? And he is insisting he's innocent. Well, I 523 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: always think it's suspicious when one member of a marriage 524 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: insists that things are going perfectly fine and the other 525 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: person is confessing to their friends that they're unhappy. It's 526 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: one thing if a couple presents in marital therapy and 527 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: the marriage is meeting one partner's needs but the other 528 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: one has grown unhappy, that's not unusual. But the fact 529 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: that this influencer was beginning to tell her friends that 530 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: she was unhappy, that speaks to a growing divide in 531 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: the marriage. And that really speaks to perhaps a personality 532 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: disorder on the husband's part, because with personality disorders, people 533 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, engage in fixed, rigid, maladaptive behaviors that are 534 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: stable over time. Even when their thousands are complaining, they 535 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: refuse to change again. The husband in this case, Tomas Sharkey, 536 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: says he's been getting death threats and that he is innocent, 537 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with his wife's death and disappearance. 538 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: We wait for that cause of death. Nancy Grace Crime 539 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,479 Speaker 1: Story signing off Goodbye friend.