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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Report. I'm Steve White.

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Speaker 2: Here is my guy, James Palmer JP. We've got our

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Speaker 2: debut show launching on the same day that the NFL

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Speaker 2: season kicks off.

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Speaker 3: My brother, Yeah made in voyage. Here we go. And

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Speaker 3: here's the funny part for everybody at home. We actually

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Speaker 3: are friends and talk on a personal basis about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're actually good. You know, there's some shows and

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Speaker 2: people have to worry about that. But me and JP

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Speaker 2: were good. I mean, you know, JP's even so much

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Speaker 2: of a superstar. He got to speak of his son's

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Speaker 2: career day recently. Yeah, and I'm sure with a smash

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Speaker 2: hit JP.

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Speaker 3: They squeezed me in between a lawyer and a and

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Speaker 3: an ear doctor, but everybody was pretty awesome. I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna lie, Steve. The best question I had was what's

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Speaker 3: my favorite chicken nugget? So I'm kind of curious what

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Speaker 3: yours is? I said, Wendy Spicy chicken nuggets. And the

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Speaker 3: second one was what's your favorite route? A kid was

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Speaker 3: dressed in full football gear, shoulder pads. How everything he goes?

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Speaker 3: Mister Palmer, what's your favorite route? I'm a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure you hit him with a fifteen yard

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Speaker 2: dig with a bang eighty going up that way. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: enough of this NFL season is underway, James, And what's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Normally we're talking about sleepers, we're talking about Super Bowl favorites,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about quarterbacks. But this NFL season actually kicks

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Speaker 2: off and we're talking.

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Speaker 1: About edge rushers. They are all the news, my man.

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Speaker 2: And look, we got to start right here with Nick

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Speaker 2: Bosa of the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: He holds out all.

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Speaker 2: Off season up until this week and signs a five year,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy million dollar deal, a buck twenty

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Speaker 2: two guaranteed and fifty million at signing highest paid defensive

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Speaker 2: player now and he's earned it.

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Speaker 1: Man, we could hit her lap I want. He's that guy.

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Speaker 3: He is him, he is He is that guy. And

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Speaker 3: it's funny. I was in Denver right now, but I

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Speaker 3: was at the Broncos practice yesterday. They're on the field

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Speaker 3: when this deal goes down, they come into the locker room.

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Speaker 3: It's media portion. You know, we're in there for forty

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Speaker 3: five minutes with these guys, and all you can hear

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Speaker 3: across the Broncos locker room is just like how much

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Speaker 3: one seventy? How much guarantee? One twenty Like just screaming

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Speaker 3: this at each other across locker room, just going like, Holy,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe that Nick Bosta just got this. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: I went over to my fellow dude from the area

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Speaker 3: former San Francisco forty nine er oo. I said, Mike,

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Speaker 3: have you seen have you seen the deal yet? Have

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Speaker 3: you seen Nick? Deely goes, what do you get? One

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Speaker 3: seventy one? Was it twenty two guarantee? See? He goes,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, he deserved every penny of that. I

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Speaker 3: was like, you went against him in practice. He goes,

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Speaker 3: I know, he's the best in the game, man, he

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Speaker 3: deserves every penny of that. It was kind of cool

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Speaker 3: to get his perspective. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, I was in charges practice and I call over

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Speaker 1: Derwin James.

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Speaker 2: He's signed a big deal last year and I was like,

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Speaker 2: d you know, here's the numbers on the deal.

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Speaker 1: He's like, this just happened. I was like, it just happened.

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Speaker 2: He was like, yes, yes, another guy gets paid and

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Speaker 2: this is what really cool, right, and this is this

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Speaker 2: is really cool about what we do. This we're gonna

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Speaker 2: bring you on the show. I mean, James and I

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Speaker 2: we know people, we know this brotherhood. We're telling you

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Speaker 2: about this, this fraternity that NFL players have. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's probably gonna be something people are gonna hate on

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Speaker 2: him making the money, but most people celebrated because the

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Speaker 2: next guy up is gonna get the next biggest deal.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna have Brian Baldinger and DeMarcus where on

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Speaker 2: later in the show to talk about who.

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Speaker 1: That next guy up is.

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Speaker 2: But James, you know, let let's talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: about Nick Bosha and and why he is that guy

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 2: You know, in that locker room, people see the videotapes

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Speaker 2: of Nick, like I just want to sack him.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of that sirve for dude. His signmates, his

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Speaker 2: I mean I remember talking to Deebo Samuel Guys on

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Speaker 1: You hear former teammates Richard Sherman, these guys like we

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Speaker 2: So they had to get him back, the Niners do.

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Speaker 2: in that locker room. And James, you know, when we

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Speaker 2: talk about this guy being in shape, he's probably gonna play.

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Speaker 2: On that he's probably gonna play against the Steelers a

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's gonna play. He's gonna play. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanan's comments on whether he's gonna play or not

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Speaker 3: in just a second, but you're right to speaking on

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Speaker 3: it really quickly. What he is as an athlete, what

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Speaker 3: he is as an irreplaceable member of this team. They

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Speaker 3: don't get to the NFC Championship Game without Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 3: Obviously wins Defensive Player of the Year. He was in

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Speaker 3: a position Steve to have all the leverage this past offseason,

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Speaker 3: and we saw his brother do it before. And they've

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Speaker 3: been very good at football, and they've been very good

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Speaker 3: at the negotiating table. Those are two places that the

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Speaker 3: Bosa family has to throw. And I'm curious when you

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Speaker 3: mentioned the diet, you mentioned how in shape he is,

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Speaker 3: if that made this dragon a little bit further. Listen

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Speaker 3: to me, like it's the forty nine ers. Knew and

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Speaker 3: John Lynch and Kyle Shannon, everyone involved that he was

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Speaker 3: takes a player roughly two three weeks to be ready

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Speaker 3: for an NFL game. They didn't think that with Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 3: I was curious if that allowed this to get even

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Speaker 3: further in terms of both teams standing their ground and

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Speaker 3: because they knew he would arrive on time. If it

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Speaker 3: took extra time to get this deal done, there was

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Speaker 3: no fear of maybe really losing him on the first game.

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Speaker 3: Now obviously missing all this time. Who will see how

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Speaker 3: many snaps he plays. But listen to Kyle Shanahan because

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Speaker 3: he's playing and he knows the type of shape that

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Speaker 3: Nick Bosa is arriving in. There any questions and at

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Speaker 4: Be in uniform on Sunday, I mean there is question

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Speaker 4: because we haven't seen him. But thank you guys know

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Speaker 4: how I'm talking. Have to be I have to have

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Speaker 4: let's switch. That's not in in Bosa's DNA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's playing off the jump, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The image, the image of Nick Bosa having a beer

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Speaker 1: Draw a cartoon of it. Because this guy is absolute superman.

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Speaker 1: I will say this.

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Speaker 2: I mean we've seen it before where guys coming late,

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Speaker 2: they're in great physical shape, their specimens, maybe not like

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Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, but you know they may get nicked up

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Speaker 2: a little because they're hyped up. They want to come

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Speaker 1: They're going up to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a rainy field on Sunday and

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Speaker 2: the University of Pittsburgh has a game on that same

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Speaker 1: Out how this is going. But it's not just Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna have to say, you know, the

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Speaker 2: field conditions, whatever about because James the star power, the

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Speaker 2: of the ball for these two teams, let's just let's

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Speaker 2: just go through this. Nick Bosa, last year's Defensive Player

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Speaker 2: of the Year. You've got Cam Hayward, You've got Highsmith

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Speaker 2: for the Steelers, and then you've got Javon Hargrave for the.

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Speaker 2: I mean, anyone who thinks there's gonna be more than

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Speaker 2: teams have sunk their money. That is absolutely kind of

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, two potential Super Bowl teams. That's where

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Speaker 2: they that's where they rest their value.

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Speaker 3: I love you said sunk their money there because we're

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Speaker 3: I do think there's a real connection between these two.

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Speaker 3: Early in the negotiations a couple months ago, I was

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Speaker 3: kept hearing, you know, Nick Bosa's deal separate from Chris Jones.

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Speaker 3: This deal, these do not connect with one another, right

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Speaker 3: won an interior pass rusher one an edge Rusher. But

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Speaker 3: now that this deal's done and I'm starting to hear

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Speaker 3: our premier defensive player market, the group that you would say,

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Speaker 3: Steve is probably what irreplaceable for However, many games that

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Speaker 3: you would play without them, you don't really replace a

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Speaker 3: with this contract and said what to us, Steve, we

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Speaker 3: are putting all the chips on the table. We want

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Speaker 3: to go to a super Bowl. This is our super

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Speaker 3: Bowl spot. We paid George Kittle, we paid Trent Williams,

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Speaker 3: at times, a way to get deals done because we

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Speaker 3: have players like Nick Bosa that are irreplaceable. It's a

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Speaker 3: different school of thought with the Kansas City Chiefs right

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Speaker 3: now with what's going on with Chris Jones' contract.

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Speaker 1: I thought Chris just wanted to raise you know, I

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Speaker 1: just he said he just wanted to raise.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I wonder, as you mentioned the Bosa deal, might say

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Speaker 2: I want a bigger raise than I initially told you.

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Speaker 2: But the standoff JP to me also shows the discrepancies

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Speaker 2: on where these teams lie. We have seen the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: let tyreek Hill go, they let Orlando Brown go. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna let Chris Jones go, But if

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Speaker 2: they're not trying to pay him right now, that's them

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Speaker 2: saying we are going to keep our salaries under a

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Speaker 2: certain way because we've got a very high priced quarterback

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Speaker 2: so we can have sustained success. The forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: all this money right after we paid defensive tackle Javon

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Speaker 2: Hargrave a four year, eighty four million dollar contract, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna put all of our money in.

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Speaker 1: Look, the Niners have nine.

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Speaker 2: Guys making more than fifteen million dollars because you know,

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Speaker 2: And look, it works for both teams, and right the

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Speaker 3: It is and I yeah, you don't want to question

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Speaker 1: Wow, I like it. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: And they thought this was gonna put Khalil Mack in

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Speaker 3: Joey Bosa on the other side, Steve, he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, and they open up against Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Their defense put some hands on the Dolphins last year,

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Speaker 2: and now with Mac and Bosha, they'll have some opportunities. JP,

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Speaker 2: why don't you get us to our next guest, because

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Speaker 2: our next block, We've got a whole lot of things

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Speaker 3: Listen, Judy Batista rode article. I think it has seven

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand things about the NFL season in twenty twenty three. No,

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Speaker 3: it's only fifty eight for super Bowl fifty eight, but

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Speaker 3: what she has to say.

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Speaker 5: Next, Welcome back to the NFL Report, and as the

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Speaker 5: season kicks off, here's the path to super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 5: eight in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: You're seeing thirty two storylines as to how the season

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Speaker 2: Judy Bautista has written a column that has shown up

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Speaker 2: at NFL dot com this week on fifty eight storylines

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Speaker 1: Judy, Welcome to the NFL Report and JP.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, you know, Judy and I have known each

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Speaker 2: other since what Judy about nineteen ninety one?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that suggests we're old, which well.

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Speaker 3: You should have asked Judy about that before we started

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Speaker 3: the second.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, No, but I mean like we were

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Speaker 2: JP covering community sports together. And now look at how

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Speaker 1: It's number three on the list.

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Speaker 2: And this is about the running game, which really kind

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Speaker 1: Hair that I have. And I read this, why don't

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Speaker 6: So last year sort of incongruously, the running game took

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Speaker 6: last season teams averaged one hundred and twenty one point

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Speaker 6: It's because quarterbacks rushing accounted for fifteen point five percent

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Speaker 1: It was rather a.

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Speaker 6: Demonstration of the different ways that teams generate the running game,

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Speaker 3: So Judy, at first, this is like a wolf in

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Speaker 3: we're running the ball more than ever. No, Now, the

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks in key situations. Quarterbacks are being used eve in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's what I'm interested to watch when it comes

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Speaker 2: Knowing that the running game is important, here's another element

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Speaker 1: Scoring real quick, JP, real quick.

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Speaker 2: And I want to go back to our previous point then,

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Speaker 3: I had to get this out of love the Steve

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Speaker 3: went back. Listen to this twenty twenty, first time we've

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Speaker 3: ever had eight thousand total rushing yards from quarterbacks twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one, first time we've ever had nine thousand yards

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Speaker 3: from rushing from quarterbacks and twenty twenty two, first time

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Speaker 3: we've ever broken ten thousand yards from quarterbacks. So they're

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Speaker 3: carrying the football, Judy, do you think the increase yards,

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Speaker 3: the increase carries is because of the protection they're getting

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Speaker 3: within the rules. I almost look at a dual threat

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Speaker 3: quarterback now as possibly having a greater chance of a

446
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Speaker 3: longer NFL career than say a dual threat quarterback twenty

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Speaker 3: years ago because of the rules.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no question that if you are a coach,

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Speaker 6: you would not send your franchise quarterback out running this

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Speaker 6: much if they were not getting protection from the officials.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if Lamar Jackson was getting clocked every time

453
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Speaker 6: he ran the ball, right, John Harbaugh would say that's

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Speaker 6: enough with Lamar. Just let him stay in the pocket

455
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Speaker 6: and throw the ball, which he can also do really well.

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Speaker 6: But yes, the rules are designed to protect quarterback. It

457
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Speaker 6: is trying to find the balance, right, the tension between

458
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Speaker 6: You got to let defenders. If he's taking off, he's

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Speaker 6: a runner, You've got to let the defenders take them

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Speaker 6: out and tackle them versus you've got to protect the

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Speaker 6: most important assets that the league has, the starting quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: So that is a fundamental issue. And again, the concern

463
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Speaker 6: of the NFL is that it gets called the way

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Speaker 6: it's supposed to get called, and that it gets called

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Speaker 6: the way they want it called across the board. So

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Speaker 6: they don't want one crew offering more protection to Patrick

467
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Speaker 6: Mahomes when on the same day Joe Burrow is not

468
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Speaker 6: getting the same level of protection. Right, it's got to

469
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Speaker 6: be the same, and that's the problem. But again, we've

470
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Speaker 6: been around the league long enough to know scoring is

471
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Speaker 6: the most important thing. That is the stat that they

472
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Speaker 6: look at most closely, because they know fans love scoring.

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Speaker 6: They do not want scoring down. So you better believe

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Speaker 6: we're going to see more calls go in favor of

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Speaker 6: the offense because the last thing they want is a

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Speaker 6: consecutive year of scoring going down.

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Speaker 3: And Judy, we're going to see fans continue to complain

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Speaker 3: that Patrick Mahons is getting protected more than say their

479
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Speaker 3: quarterback in terms of how the officiating crew is going

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Speaker 3: about it. And the third one we want to hit

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Speaker 3: is coaches upset about something. What I've never heard that

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Speaker 3: before the new kickoff rule. Right, they are not happy

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Speaker 3: with this kickoff rule for this season. And you're hinting

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Speaker 3: there could be more changes coming after this season to

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Speaker 3: what happens on kickoffs. Please elaborate on that second part.

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Speaker 6: They're not just hinting that there are going to be

487
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Speaker 6: more changes. I mean they have basically said this is

488
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Speaker 6: just a stopgap measure. More to come. So the kickoff

489
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Speaker 6: is the most dangerous play in football, right, Like, there's

490
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Speaker 6: a disproportionate number of concussions suffered on the kickoff, and

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Speaker 6: that is because of the speed of the collisions with

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Speaker 6: the coverage team and the returner, right, and they just

493
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Speaker 6: blast into each other. You've heard players describe it as

494
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Speaker 6: like running into a garage door. Obviously, the NFL is

495
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Speaker 6: in an era where it is very concerned about head

496
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Speaker 6: injuries and they need to do everything they can to

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Speaker 6: address concussions. So what they can up with this year

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Speaker 6: and the Competition Committee is if you fair catch on

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Speaker 6: a kickoff, the ball automatically comes to the twenty five

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Speaker 6: yard line, that's where your drive starts. The twenty five

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Speaker 6: yard line doesn't matter where you fair catch it from

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Speaker 6: the twenty five yard line. In so if you were

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Speaker 6: standing on a one yard line and you fair catch it,

504
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Speaker 6: you're at the twenty five. Needless to say, coaches, especially

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Speaker 6: the traditionalists in the group, say, are you trying to

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Speaker 6: take the foot out of the game. I have been

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Speaker 6: in meetings with the Competition Committee and special teams coaches

508
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Speaker 6: for years where they've had this argument going back and forth.

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Speaker 6: How do you keep the foot in the game while

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Speaker 6: making it safer. So this is what they came up

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Speaker 6: with this year. They have been very clear they are

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Speaker 6: not done changing the kickoff. They don't want to eliminate

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Speaker 6: the kickoff, but they once it's positioned as a player

514
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Speaker 6: safety situation, there are going to be more changes until

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Speaker 6: they drive the number of concussions down. And one thing

516
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Speaker 6: that they are looking at is the way they do

517
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Speaker 6: it in the XFL, which is only five yards.

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Speaker 3: I have no problem.

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Speaker 6: If that's what keeps the kicker kick in the game, Sure,

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Speaker 6: let's do it. It's only five yards, so you can't

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Speaker 6: get the high speed collisions.

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Speaker 2: Sure, whatever about And let me just quickly explain the

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Speaker 2: XFL rule because I love watching it.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, the kicker lines up at his thirty yard line.

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Speaker 2: The other ten numbers of the kickoff team lineup at

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Speaker 2: the opponent's thirty five while the return team lines up

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Speaker 2: at the thirty, so you'll get.

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Speaker 1: Five yards for the collision.

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Speaker 2: But we've also seen a significant amount of kickoff returns

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Speaker 2: for touchdowns or big plays in the XFL, so it

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Speaker 2: can work.

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Speaker 1: Judy, you got us thinking, we got to bring you back.

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Speaker 1: What's the flesh?

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Speaker 3: Away?

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Speaker 2: These things out and some more stuff because we've got

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Speaker 2: fifty five other things you wrote about that we eventually

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Speaker 2: have to cover. And for more on Duty's column, go

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Speaker 2: to NFL dot com slash Batista and coming up next,

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Speaker 2: Class of twenty twenty three Hall of Famer DeMarcus where

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Speaker 2: he's about to tell us.

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Speaker 1: Who is him? Back on the NFL Report. All right, JP,

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Speaker 1: we are officially blessed.

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Speaker 2: Right now we are in the presence of Class of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Pro Football Hall of Famer DeMarcus Where

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Speaker 2: d were what's up?

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Speaker 7: What is going on? Fellas? How y'all been?

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Speaker 1: We're good, We're good.

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Speaker 3: We're wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: It's great to see that smile. I miss it. I

551
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Speaker 3: used to see it in Denver all the time back

552
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Speaker 3: in the day, and now I get to see it again.

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Speaker 3: It's wonderful. I gotta ask you, do you whear like

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Speaker 3: you went into pretty much every hall of Fame this summer.

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Speaker 3: I think it was high school, college, Sunbelt, the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be in the ring of Like do you

557
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Speaker 3: have a favorite? Do you have a favorite? What went on? Man?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 3: I I.

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Speaker 7: Don't have a favorite.

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Speaker 8: And the thing is I have favor And I think

562
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Speaker 8: that's like the coolest thing to see all your hard

563
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 8: work has really paid off and you're seeing that finally.

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Speaker 8: So it's one of the coolest things that you know,

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Speaker 8: you know, just to experience it from high school level,

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Speaker 8: college level all the way to the ultimate Hall of

567
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Speaker 8: Fame level in the NFL. And Wisch was there to

568
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Speaker 8: take witness that and there it was. Man, that was

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Speaker 8: a cool opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from from from the door knock to the incredible

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame speech.

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Speaker 1: I want to circle back to the speech in just

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Speaker 1: the second d where but as.

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Speaker 2: We kick off the season this week, we know we

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Speaker 2: got the Chiefs and Lions and and everything kicks off.

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Speaker 2: I kind of want to get your take on the

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Speaker 2: two teams that you played for the Dallas Cowboys. You're

578
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Speaker 2: gonna be defensive led team. And the Broncos with Sean Payton,

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Speaker 2: the coach that you tormented a few times when you

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Speaker 2: were playing.

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Speaker 1: For the Cowboys, Let's start with the Cowboys where.

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Speaker 8: You know the Cowboys. From what I see and have

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Speaker 8: seen in the locker room and eating rooms, I've seen

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Speaker 8: character for the first time. I've seen, you know, guys

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Speaker 8: really wanting it. And I can actually pinpoint the captains.

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Speaker 8: And when you can pinpoint the captains, you can pinpoint

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Speaker 8: the tenacity of the team. And I think that's what's

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Speaker 8: going to take them to where they need to be.

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Speaker 8: And it's all about this thing healthy for the postseason.

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Speaker 8: If they can, you know, stay healthy, they can go

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Speaker 8: a long way. And then the transition over to the

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Speaker 8: Denver Broncos, I knew Sean Payton was going to be

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Speaker 8: a great move. And you can see how they're scoring

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Speaker 8: points now. They're not turning the football over, They're playing

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Speaker 8: fundamentally sound football.

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Speaker 1: Pre season dware, it's pre season dware.

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Speaker 7: Listen.

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Speaker 8: But the thing is, if you play bad in the preseason,

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Speaker 8: it can carry over to the regular side. But if

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Speaker 8: you see glints is in the preseason some of it

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Speaker 8: that can happen in a regular season, and I got

602
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 8: to see.

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Speaker 7: Some of that, so I'm like, all right, all right,

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Speaker 7: I see change. I saw change so change on both teams,

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Speaker 7: and I can't wait to see what they're going to

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Speaker 7: do this year.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious, do you think Michael Parsons breaks your Cowboys

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Speaker 3: sack record? Does he have a chance to do that?

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Speaker 8: He has a chance to do that if he stays healthy,

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Speaker 8: I stay healthy for eight or nine years and really

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Speaker 8: really consistent. If Mike Coho can play like he's been playing,

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Speaker 8: I mean he's been averaging what over you know, thirteen

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Speaker 8: sacks a year.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to get double digit sat. So if he

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Speaker 7: can do that, yeah, the.

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Speaker 8: Record will be shattered. And I know if he can

617
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Speaker 8: get that pressure like that, but they'll end up winning

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Speaker 8: the Super Bowl. I'm just throwing it out. I'm just

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Speaker 8: throwing that nugget out there for Michael.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we got record chattered and super Bowl Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: throwing it out.

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Speaker 1: Hey, DeMarcus, real quick, we're short on time.

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Speaker 2: I really would love to talk more about that, but

624
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Speaker 2: I want to get to something that really stood out

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Speaker 2: from that great Pro Football Hall of Fame weekend in Canton,

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Speaker 2: and that was this moment from your Hall of Fame speech.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 8: This might sound crazy, but the NFL taught me how

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Speaker 8: to forgive. First I forgave myself, and then I forgave

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Speaker 8: my dad. Dad, all the times I didn't understand why

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Speaker 8: you weren't there, it doesn't matter. You're here. Now, I've

632
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 8: learned that guilt rocks in a person, and forgiveness heels.

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Speaker 8: How can I expect God to forgive me if I

634
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Speaker 8: don't forgive you? You once said it's two simple words

635
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Speaker 8: to me. I'm sorry. I'm not sure if I was,

636
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Speaker 8: but I'm telling you now on the biggest platform of

637
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Speaker 8: my life, I forgive you.

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Speaker 1: The market size is blown away, then I'm blown away.

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Speaker 1: Now what is your relationship now with your dad?

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Speaker 8: We've always had a close relationship, but we never talked.

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Speaker 8: And it's one of those things where that was the

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Speaker 8: moment for me to where I had to release something

643
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 8: like I really had to release a lot of the

644
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Speaker 8: anger that I had as a child towards my dad

645
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Speaker 8: and that experienced that story and what I was trying

646
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Speaker 8: to do and let the world know that you know

647
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Speaker 8: what you have to let go sometimes to live and

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Speaker 8: that was one of those moments for me. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it still gives me chills because that was my first

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Speaker 8: time ever saying dad. And you probably notice how like

651
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 8: quivered in my voice a little bit. But there was

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Speaker 8: a moment for me, and I know everybody felt that,

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Speaker 8: and there was a moment I know everyone's going to remember.

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Speaker 3: It was incredible. It's amazing if you were to see

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Speaker 3: you move forward and move on. I want to move

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Speaker 3: forward also to this season. I mean, what is your

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Speaker 3: take on edge rushers now in today's NFL? Is it

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Speaker 3: is it with the ball coming out so quickly?

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Speaker 1: What is it like?

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Speaker 3: Would you have to change your game? What is it

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Speaker 3: like rushing from the edge with the ball out under

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Speaker 3: two seconds? Now?

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Speaker 8: You know, I would probably have to change my game

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Speaker 8: a lot, because you there's not a lot of five

665
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Speaker 8: step drops anymore. It's you know, RPO, there's three step drop.

666
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Speaker 8: There's a lot of screams to keep you on your feet,

667
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Speaker 8: and so I would actually just really be in the

668
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Speaker 8: cornerback room telling those guys, listen, I need one more second,

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Speaker 8: you know, I need you out a bump and run. Okay,

670
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Speaker 8: can y'all just bump and run, get back, give me

671
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Speaker 8: an extra second. That's why I'll be telling the defensive coordinators, hey,

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Speaker 8: can we draft our corner some free safeties because I

673
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Speaker 8: need more time. It doesn't matter the quarterback has he

674
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Speaker 8: said throw the ball off and it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 8: kind of pressure you get.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: You got to disrupt the timing of those receivers. Well,

678
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Speaker 2: the markets, we know you're also here on behalf of

679
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Speaker 2: Direct TV. What do you got going on with them?

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm with Direct TV for business and ever

681
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Speaker 8: past media, and we're talking about football, right, Football on

682
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Speaker 8: the Sunday ticket in businesses. And when you start trying

683
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Speaker 8: to affect the masses, when you start thinking about football,

684
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Speaker 8: you go into that restaurant, you go into that bar,

685
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Speaker 8: and if they don't have the Sunday ticket, I'm walking out.

686
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Speaker 7: And so I'm just letting.

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Speaker 8: Everybody know that it's here, right, they got it with

688
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Speaker 8: three hundred thousand locations and we're trying to do it big,

689
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Speaker 8: just like the Hall of Fame. So I'm here and

690
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Speaker 8: how to tell everybody that the NFL ticket is back.

691
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Speaker 8: It's in the businesses everywhere, and go watch some football

692
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Speaker 8: because it's about to get started.

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Speaker 2: There we go, Dware, We appreciate your time, and everybody

694
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Speaker 2: remember and the words of Devarcus Ware save this tape

695
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Speaker 2: that Micah Parsons could shatter his record and the Cowboys

696
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Speaker 2: could go to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the Dware.

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Speaker 3: Can see to unreal from Dware Right there, he's got

699
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Speaker 3: Michaeh Parsons right there breaking his sack record with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: What cowboys going to the super Bowl? What about edge

701
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Speaker 3: rushers in today's game? What about tackles in today's game?

702
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Speaker 3: We have Brian Balding or Baldy coming up to break

703
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Speaker 3: the trenches down. There's nobody better in the business. Stay tuned,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whitch

705
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Speaker 3: and the next guy, Steve. Our next guest needs no introduction,

706
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Speaker 3: but I'll do it anyway because this is also a podcast.

707
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Speaker 3: Baldy joins us. Brian Baldinger. I almost feel like I

708
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Speaker 3: gotta go one more button down, Baldy to join you

709
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Speaker 3: in the salad right there? What was your thoughts, because

710
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Speaker 3: you know Dware you played with them, Like, what what

711
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Speaker 3: did you take out of what what he had to say?

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Speaker 9: Well, I thought the most eye opening thing outside. He

713
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Speaker 9: thinks that, you know, Micah Parson is going to break

714
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Speaker 9: and shatter his sack record in jacks. But I thought

715
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Speaker 9: I thought he said, for the first time in a

716
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Speaker 9: long time, the Cowboys have the right character in the

717
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Speaker 9: locker room. And that's something that reporters like yourself, analysts

718
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Speaker 9: like myself, we can't always gauge.

719
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Speaker 3: We can kind of see it.

720
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Speaker 9: It gets revealed sometimes, but we can't really feel the

721
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Speaker 9: locker room the way players and guys that are used

722
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Speaker 9: to it see it. So I thought that was a

723
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Speaker 9: good sign for any Cowboy fan out there. What Dwear

724
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Speaker 9: had to say about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Bald, you know we heard him talking to

726
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Speaker 2: him about edge rushers too. And I want to pick

727
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Speaker 2: your brand because you work with so many, you know,

728
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Speaker 2: you see so many. We know the great ones, right,

729
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: we know Max Crosby, we know Cam Jordan, TJ Watt,

730
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Speaker 2: Nick Bos, Joey Bosa, Miles Garrett, players like that. But

731
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Speaker 2: who are maybe some of the players you've seen that

732
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Speaker 2: are kind of on the cusp of kind of joining

733
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Speaker 2: that club.

734
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Speaker 9: Well, I mean Brian Burns right off the bat, you know,

735
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Speaker 9: I don't know what his contract status is in Carolina

736
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Speaker 9: right now. I mean he's he's an electric player and

737
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Speaker 9: you have to game plan for him. Rashaun Gary before

738
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Speaker 9: he got hurt, was arriving in Green Bay. You know,

739
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Speaker 9: he's he's a big edge rusher. He's two hundred and

740
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Speaker 9: eighty two hundred and eighty five pounds. He has a

741
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Speaker 9: little size to him. And I know, I watched about

742
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Speaker 9: ten or twelve snaps in the final preseason game of

743
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Speaker 9: Tyree Wilson with the Raiders, and you just go, wow,

744
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 9: Like he opened like he coming off of foot surgery,

745
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Speaker 9: all this kind of stuff, Like you see his side,

746
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Speaker 9: his length.

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Speaker 3: We saw it at Texas.

748
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Speaker 9: Tech, but now you saw it even in a preseason game.

749
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Speaker 9: You go, there's something there. And then I think I

750
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Speaker 9: think people recognize that Jalen Phillips could easily break out

751
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Speaker 9: in Miami this year. He looks like he could be

752
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Speaker 9: a really special player.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Roal quick bald, No, Chase Young.

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Speaker 9: I need to see Chase on the field. Steve, we

755
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Speaker 9: haven't seen him on the field. You know, He's got

756
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Speaker 9: to get on the field to get my eyes and

757
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Speaker 9: to get my breakdowns. I love breaking them down. His

758
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 9: rookie year. I mean, he's had seven and a half sacks,

759
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Speaker 9: but he his speed and his athletic building change direction

760
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Speaker 9: was there. He's got a sack in half in the

761
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Speaker 9: last two years, like you know, and he's missed a

762
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Speaker 9: lot of games. So I need to see Chase on

763
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Speaker 9: the field. I know Warren Sapp was working with them

764
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Speaker 9: during training camp. He said, get your butt in a

765
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Speaker 9: four point stance and a three point stance. Get be

766
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Speaker 9: like a jet taken off. He rushed from a two

767
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Speaker 9: point stance all the time. He's standing straight up like

768
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Speaker 9: I don't think people felt his power. So I want

769
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Speaker 9: to see Chase on the field. And though I want

770
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Speaker 9: to see I want to see a better pass rush

771
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Speaker 9: array of moves from Chase right now.

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Speaker 3: Boy, I'm stuck on this because we talked about it

773
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Speaker 3: with d Ware. You heard it in kind of how

774
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Speaker 3: today's game has evolved. I remember being in Philly during

775
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Speaker 3: camp and talking to Brandon Graham, who's been around forever, right,

776
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Speaker 3: and just talking to him about the frustration that you

777
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Speaker 3: have as an edge rusher when the ball's just out

778
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Speaker 3: and it's and it keeps coming out. You mentioned a

779
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Speaker 3: bunch of different guys with different sizes skill sets. Is

780
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Speaker 3: there a premiere size and skill set that fits today's

781
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Speaker 3: game better than maybe it did in the past. That

782
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Speaker 3: you see a certain maybe body type or does does

783
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Speaker 3: that not matter in terms of what guys can be

784
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Speaker 3: successful with now?

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Speaker 9: I don't think it matters, you know. I mean, Dwight

786
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Speaker 9: Freeney was different than Reggie White, was different than Michael Strahan.

787
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Speaker 7: You know.

788
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Speaker 3: Uh, but but they put up huge numbers.

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Speaker 9: Jason Taylor put up big numbers and he was long

790
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Speaker 9: and lean, and I don't know that Jason Taylor Waite

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Speaker 9: and I remember playing with Reggie and we had an

792
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Speaker 9: electronic scale in Philadelphia back then, and sometimes in December,

793
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Speaker 9: Reggie would get on the scale and he would jump

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Speaker 9: off as it was rising past three thirty.

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Speaker 1: Five, like I don't know when to tip it off back.

796
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Speaker 3: So I think we're always you know, and really just

797
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Speaker 3: not edge rushers either.

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Speaker 9: By you know, great football players will always come in

799
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Speaker 9: different shapes and sizes. You know, their greatness is how

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Speaker 9: they play the game, whatever they've been gifted with.

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Speaker 2: So Paul, let me let me ask you this. De

802
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Speaker 2: wear said he'd have to change his game a little bit.

803
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Speaker 2: I was talking to Khalil Mack at charges practice shows

804
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Speaker 2: today about this quick passing game, and he said, it's

805
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Speaker 2: so frustrating, you know, because you know, you just can't

806
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Speaker 2: get to the quarterback. He said, but that's where you

807
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: have to be patient because hopefully the defense keeps the

808
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: opponent out of the end zone, the offense scores points.

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Speaker 2: So at some point the opposing team you've got to

810
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Speaker 2: try to drive the ball downfield. I mean, what about

811
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Speaker 2: the patients these pass rushers have to play with now?

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Speaker 9: And I asked to say question of Miles Garrett about

813
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Speaker 9: a month ago, Steve when the Browns were scrimmaging against

814
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Speaker 9: the Eagles, and he said, you can't pick and choose

815
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Speaker 9: when the pass rush, like, you just have to go

816
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Speaker 9: and then you know, if it's a if it's a

817
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Speaker 9: bubble screen, turn and run and go make to play.

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Speaker 9: I mean the screen game should be the defensive lineman's game,

819
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Speaker 9: like flip your hips, turn and run like that's what

820
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Speaker 9: you're expected to do. That's what the great ones do.

821
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Speaker 9: Go make to play, don't let it get started. Tackle

822
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Speaker 9: before it does get started. But you you know, when

823
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Speaker 9: you get to third and seven, third and ten, third

824
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Speaker 9: and twelve, third and fifteen, Steve, I mean, it's like

825
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Speaker 9: pin your ears back, all right? Did you know you

826
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Speaker 9: might have fewer rushes because of the way the game

827
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Speaker 9: is played now, but you have to maximize the rushes

828
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Speaker 9: that you get. But if it's first and ten, a

829
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Speaker 9: bubble screen comes out and they're throwing it to the sideline,

830
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Speaker 9: just run and chase. But if you're there trying to go, Okay,

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna go harden this time because I think it's

832
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Speaker 9: gonna be a deep set and then the you know,

833
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Speaker 9: like you just you can't do that. You have to

834
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Speaker 9: play hard every play and just react to what the

835
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Speaker 9: play is.

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Speaker 3: But we had Judy Batista on a little earlier talking

837
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Speaker 3: about honestly, teams are running the football more than ever,

838
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Speaker 3: but the quarterbacks running the football are a big part

839
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Speaker 3: of that because they're running it themselves more than ever.

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Speaker 3: What does that do for offensive linemen in terms of now,

841
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Speaker 3: more than any previous season, we're seeing guys take off

842
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Speaker 3: and run or it's designed run, or it's an RPO,

843
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Speaker 3: or it's just the mindset you have to have. I

844
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Speaker 3: guess as an offensive lineman now that that part of

845
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Speaker 3: the game is just continues to grow. That the quarterback

846
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Speaker 3: is going to carry the football.

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Speaker 9: Well Okay, a couple of things here, James, Because it's

848
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Speaker 9: a loaded is a valid question, it is topical one.

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Speaker 3: The NFL can take it.

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Speaker 9: You're a reporter, James, you know the NFL can only

851
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 9: take what the college game gives us. So it gives

852
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 9: us Justin Fields, it gives us Jalen Hurts, it gives

853
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 9: us Lamar Jackson. That's what it's given us. Okay, So now, okay,

854
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Speaker 9: now we've now figured out how to incorporate. Right before

855
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Speaker 9: he came on, I broke down the Patriots last year

856
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Speaker 9: against Justin Field and Lamar Jackson. They were awful, like

857
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 9: they hadn't seen raid option. They tried to spy them,

858
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Speaker 9: it didn't work. And here comes Jalen Hurts coming into town.

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Speaker 9: So you have to defend all six basically skilled players

860
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Speaker 9: on any given play, and your eyes have to be right.

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Speaker 9: And you can say, okay, well, it's just numbers. Somebody's

862
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 9: got to pitch, somebody's got the quarterback, somebody's got to dive,

863
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Speaker 9: all right, until you're in that position and you're Matt

864
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Speaker 9: Judahon this weekend and Jalen Hurts is coming down the

865
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Speaker 9: line with DeAndre Swift and you don't know who's got

866
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Speaker 9: the ball where it's going and you just have to

867
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Speaker 9: freeze for a second against these guys are right by it.

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Speaker 9: I think we all remember that play of Justin Fields

869
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Speaker 9: against Green Bay last year. The entire pack or defense

870
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Speaker 9: was chasing him into the end zone. It was too

871
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Speaker 9: late by the time they figured it out. I think

872
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 9: it's a problem and there isn't one answer for it.

873
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 9: And you can drop all the defense you want. You

874
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 9: can rush three, drop eight, you can do all this stuff.

875
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 9: These guys are skilled running backs. Their vision tells them

876
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 9: where to go. It's not like they're just running blind

877
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 9: in a meathouse.

878
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 6: Like.

879
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 9: They know how to set guys up. They know where

880
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 9: the pursuit's coming from, they know where the daylight is.

881
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: Like.

882
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 9: These are skilled running backs with the ball in their hands.

883
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 9: And I would say just the three guys I mentioned

884
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 9: amongst others. But you know, Lamar, Justin and Jalen this

885
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 9: weekend be something to watch and just track how they

886
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 9: perform this weekend.

887
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baldy is a scrub outside linebacker. Had to play

888
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: assignment football back in the Big Eight days. It is

889
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: so tempting to take the dive back when you come

890
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: and unblocked. But the next thing, you know, the quarterback

891
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: pops out. Hey, Baldi, we gotta let you go. We

892
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: got to talk about your interesting life. Because James Palmer

893
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: spoken is on his career day. We want to see

894
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: what it'd be like for you to speak at a

895
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: career day since you do fifteen million awesome things. We

896
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: got to catch you next time because coming up next

897
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: on the NFL report, is it prime time in Colorado?

898
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: And could us see quarterback Kleb Williams actually when he

899
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: might be the number one pick. We're back on the

900
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: NFL Report, but right now we're going to talk some

901
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: college football.

902
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: That's because the biggest story.

903
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: Coming out of last weekend is NFL or Pro Football

904
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Dion Sanders coaching the Colorado Buffalo's to

905
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 2: an upset victory forty five forty two over TCU. And

906
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: oh boy, James, you know this because you live in Colorado.

907
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: The sports world lost his mind. This guy coaching at

908
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: Jackson State just went up there and took his team

909
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: with an eighty percent roster turnover and knocked off the

910
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: team that played in the National Championship. I want to

911
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: get your Colorado I view of exactly what the reaction

912
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: was semi locally up there, and just kind of how

913
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders has been elevat into a credible head coach,

914
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: even though he shouldn't have to be elevated he already was,

915
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: but elevated to.

916
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: That degree nationally where he's created all this conversation.

917
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: Let's start with locally, Steve. It has been the dominant

918
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: sports landscape conversation in the state of Colorado this entire summer.

919
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: It really has. And we have Sean Payton coming to Denver,

920
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: Kenny fixed Russell Wilson, major Broncos storylines in anything that

921
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: I'm told locally. In terms of a discussion about Deon Sanders,

922
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: this entire summer, ratings are through the roof and he's

923
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: just up the road and Boulder, and everybody was curious

924
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: how this opening week was going to go, because we

925
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: have to remember what Dion did, Steve. He went and

926
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: did exactly what everybody in the college landscape didn't wantim

927
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: to do, which is flip his entire roster. Which also

928
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: be clear, he wasn't the only one that did that

929
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: correct this past season, but he got most of the scrutiny,

930
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: if not all of it for what he did and

931
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: maybe the way he went about it. But he goes

932
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: out in that first game against TCU and being here

933
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: in Colorado with the state absolutely exploding, when they go

934
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: out and they knock off the horn Frogs, who were,

935
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: even if they're not the same team, they were in

936
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: the National Championship last year, and Colorado won one game

937
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: a season ago. I think what happened most Steve is

938
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: we had a chance to see Dion do things his way,

939
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: and what did he get in this first game? He

940
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: got validated everything that he wanted to go out and

941
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: do in terms of empowering his players, letting a player

942
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: like Travis Hunter come and play both ways who wanted

943
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: to come and play both sides of the football, That

944
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: came out as a success. His son comes out and

945
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 3: throws a football over all over the arm and throws

946
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: her five hundred and ten yards and breaks the CU record,

947
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: all of that happening in a successful manner. I don't

948
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: know if that just jettisons this into another stratosphere in

949
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: what Dion's putting together at CU. Because everyone was watching,

950
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: everyone in the NFL game was watching, everyone in college

951
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: football was watching, and maybe most importantly, every high school

952
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 3: rec cruit was watching, Yes, sir, and I think that's

953
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: the biggest aspect of this.

954
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: That's a great point, okay.

955
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: And it's funny because I remember back when I was

956
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: a scrub at University of Missouri, uh Colorado that multiple times.

957
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Ye I was no good. I was no good. I

958
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: mean that's how I ended up transferring and stopped playing football.

959
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: But anyway, Colorado comes down to Columbia and their old uniforms.

960
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: They look like UCLA, right, they were blue and gold.

961
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: We mopped the floor with them.

962
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: Bill McCartney comes in next year.

963
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: It's about nineteen eighty five because the black uniform starts

964
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: turning over the roster and next thing you know, Colorado

965
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: is a powerhouse. That's what Dion is doing. But here's

966
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: before we move on. This is to me what Dion's

967
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: biggest accomplishment is about to be. You mentioned SHITTERR. Sanders,

968
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: you mentioned Travis Hunter, They.

969
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: Had a couple other players. Soon we're gonna be talking.

970
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: About his players and things other than Dion and the

971
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: Colorado program. Once people stopped talking about Dion and they

972
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: start talking about the players in the program, that's where

973
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: Prime is really going to establish himself as a legitimate guy,

974
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: because right now he's personality leading a program.

975
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: Which is unfortunate how he's viewed that way.

976
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: Once the program starts being the personality, that's when he

977
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: gets a dumb Speaking of personalities, In a GQ article

978
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: this week, Caleb Williams, the Heisman Trophy winning quarterback from

979
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: the USC had his father come out and say that

980
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 2: if he doesn't like the situation, he could potentially be

981
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: drafted into in twenty twenty four.

982
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: He may return to USC. All right, GP, this is

983
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, not feeling it whatsoever. Don't want to

984
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: get your take.

985
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: A couple of things jump out of me, Steve, the

986
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: first one being I think the carts ahead of the

987
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: horse a little bit. Here. Is this a preemptive strike

988
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: to put this out prior to really this season up

989
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: and going and three? You're really making a lot of

990
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: assumptions about what you're expecting to happen. And that was

991
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: a lot of what this article was about. Kayleb Williams

992
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 3: himself was saying, I've really never had the choice out

993
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: of my hands before. I've always had a choice in

994
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: everything that's going on in my football life. This is

995
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: an opportunity. I wouldn't. I'm just fascinated by the idea

996
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: of them just already knowing what's gonna happen. At the

997
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 3: top of the draft. You made a couple of points

998
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: to throw them out real quick at the top of

999
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: the draft. Things can get a lot different each and

1000
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 3: every year, and things can change quickly in the NFL,

1001
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: very very quickly.

1002
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: Right this year, she got Goa have the worst record,

1003
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: but Carolina came up and traded. You get the top

1004
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: pick to take the top quarterback. You maybe have a

1005
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: team all of a sudden, you have a new head coach.

1006
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: You don't know the situation of what you can be in.

1007
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: But I'm not saying it. But I'm saying it because

1008
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: in the article his dad listed, look, a player like

1009
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield went to a certain situation and then it

1010
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: didn't work. A quarterback like Kyler Murray went to a

1011
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 2: certain situation where organizationally, it was a disaster.

1012
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray played for the Arizona Cardinals. Arizona Cardinals could

1013
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: have the first overall pick.

1014
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: Who is Caleb Wims quarterback coach Clif Kingsbury, who no

1015
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: longer is the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

1016
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: I didn't say it, but I'm saying it.

1017
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Speaker 3: You did say. It's Steve and on the debut episode

1018
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Speaker 3: right here of the NFL Report Remembers tem fifteen Eastern

1019
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Speaker 3: every Monday every Thursday. We're also a podcast. Catch us

1020
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: wherever you catch your podcast. We're on the NFL channel

1021
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: to be broku Pluto to name it Steve, We're on it.