Speaker 1: This is The Eds with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aoyavi.
Speaker 1: The husbands know Best Too, Cheese Production. Welcome back. This
Speaker 1: is our twelve episodes of The Eds. We are back
Speaker 1: for another episode with a topic about men's health. I
Speaker 1: love men's health because I'm a man and I love health.
Speaker 1: I love health as well, so yeah, yeah, we both
Speaker 1: as well this topic. So you know, somebody said that
Speaker 1: recently to me. They said the new wealthy is health
Speaker 1: or something to that effect.
Speaker 2: Like every time I get depressed, I'm just or every
Speaker 2: time I get pissed off about something or I get
Speaker 2: in bad mood, I just remind myself you are in
Speaker 2: great at health. Your family's in great health. Life spit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: health as wealth. Like if you're health life as well,
Speaker 2: I don't care how much money you gave me. I
Speaker 2: do not want to be, you know, ready to die.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah E terminated, like yeah where did where did
Speaker 3: you learn your health habits or at what stage in
Speaker 3: your life did you start finally like understanding how important
Speaker 3: this is for your not just your your obness, your
Speaker 3: you're down to your cellular level, but your mental health
Speaker 3: and your productivity and all the benefits that you get
Speaker 3: from health.
Speaker 1: When did that happen for you?
Speaker 2: Well, I think health for me started my mom put
Speaker 2: me in Tik one Do when I was young, very young,
Speaker 2: and it taught me discipline, and then she put me
Speaker 2: I loved football, so I loved watching football, so I
Speaker 2: wanted to play football. And then you know, that taught me,
Speaker 2: you know, just the grind of things and if you can,
Speaker 2: that taught me how to be competitive and if you
Speaker 2: work hard at something, you know you could, you could
Speaker 2: make it happen, right, because I wasn't the most talented,
Speaker 2: So for me, that's when I first got introduced kind
Speaker 2: of the health is like just the sports and the
Speaker 2: competitiveness of it, the community of it, the unity of it.
Speaker 2: And I kind of started loving fitness then. And then
Speaker 2: I wanted to be different, so I just started working out.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be shredded. I used to watch how
Speaker 2: Old That You? Probably around eighteen is when I really
Speaker 2: started getting into my fitness, and I was I became
Speaker 2: obsessed with with having abs. In fact, I had a
Speaker 2: Calvin climbox that I would literally have in my little
Speaker 2: room that I was in, Yeah, and I'd always look
Speaker 2: at that box. And then if you remember Fight Club
Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety nine. I had like a poster Brad Pitt,
Speaker 2: and like that's the body that I wanted, right, And
Speaker 2: so at first I did it for vanity reasons, and
Speaker 2: you know, now that I'm older, it's really just about
Speaker 2: like that's what keeps me sane. Like I often say,
Speaker 2: like there's people that take pills to calm them down,
Speaker 2: Like for me, it's it's my workouts. Yeah. When I
Speaker 2: work out, man, I just I get so relaxed. I
Speaker 2: get comfortable, and it doesn't matter what comes my way.
Speaker 2: Like I'm good because I'm so overlashed. Right, So I
Speaker 2: love running now and all that good stuff. When did
Speaker 2: it start for you?
Speaker 1: For me? Very similar young sports and discipline and pushing
Speaker 1: through you know, the pain, and just getting it done
Speaker 1: to get to the other side and feel good about
Speaker 1: yourself mentally, physically, emotionally. There's so many benefits with it.
Speaker 1: I didn't start lifting weights until after high school because
Speaker 1: somebody told me that if you start lifting weights too young,
Speaker 1: you're gonna stay short, and of course I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be a short guy. And then when I got
Speaker 1: into bodybuilding, I really just started hitting the ways hard
Speaker 1: and at the time, I really didn't know what nutrition
Speaker 1: was about. I would eat burritos, hamburgers, tacos, everything in
Speaker 1: large substance, and it just didn't work out well. Put
Speaker 1: some weight on me, but it didn't really work out well.
Speaker 1: And then in college it took some nutrition classes and
Speaker 1: in combination with that and talking to the actual bodybuilders
Speaker 1: that I used to work out around that Gold gym,
Speaker 1: it taught me that nutrition is super, super important, not
Speaker 1: just for growth, but for definition and performance and longevity.
Speaker 1: And I really got into it and that was all
Speaker 1: about it. While I was going to college. I remember
Speaker 1: taking my food to class and you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: eating time, so I'm going to open it up and
Speaker 1: it's it's a really smelly chicken dish that's got a
Speaker 1: lot of garlic, and it nervody in the room is
Speaker 1: like can you go outside and eat? Like, hey, I
Speaker 1: gotta eat, man, it's time to eat. I want to
Speaker 1: schedule right here. So I was so into it, and
Speaker 1: then I that's kind of what got me into the
Speaker 1: fitness and health space. I started training clients and I
Speaker 1: was dating a girl who was a trainer, and I
Speaker 1: really got into it. She talked me into start teaching
Speaker 1: classes on stage. I was scared to death, but it
Speaker 1: really taught me, you know, what I needed to know
Speaker 1: to get my confidence because, as I mentioned early on,
Speaker 1: my vision in the future was to be wearing a
Speaker 1: suit talking business to a group of people who are
Speaker 1: listening to my subject. Right, So that was my visual
Speaker 1: and when it came down to it, in teaching a class,
Speaker 1: a group fitness class, I was in front of an audience,
Speaker 1: but I was in my shorts and T shirt and
Speaker 1: teaching a group fitness class, which obviously I truly enjoyed
Speaker 1: and I still enjoyed to this date. It's so much fun.
Speaker 2: Well there was it like a hit workout you were teaching.
Speaker 1: It was what it was called. The first class was
Speaker 1: called body Pump and it was a group fitness class
Speaker 1: with lighter weights, high repetitions, slow tempo, great introductory class
Speaker 1: to lifting weights. Because during my era, it was the
Speaker 1: stereotypical when you go to the gym, all the girls
Speaker 1: around cardio equipment and all the guys are in the
Speaker 1: weight room and never did they ever cross, you know, paths.
Speaker 1: And for me, I loved both worlds. I'm a cyclist
Speaker 1: at heart, I'm an endurance athlete at heart, but I
Speaker 1: also love to lift weights. Because the vanity side took
Speaker 1: over and said, you can be a good cyclist, but
Speaker 1: you don't want to look like a good cyclist. You
Speaker 1: want to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger on the bike. And
Speaker 1: that's a complete dichotomy, totally against everything that you know
Speaker 1: physically that you can do. You're either an endurance athlete
Speaker 1: or a power athlete. You just can't be both. But
Speaker 1: I did it. I enjoyed it. I really had a
Speaker 1: great time with it. And you know, thinking back back
Speaker 1: back before I got this heart issue, I was always
Speaker 1: thinking like, what did I do to create this hard issue?
Speaker 1: Apheb And I just can't help but think that maybe
Speaker 1: pushing myself so hard, so long, so many years might
Speaker 1: have contributed to my heart issue. In other words, I
Speaker 1: was like a Ferrari pulling an eighteen wheeler up a
Speaker 1: mountain on a bicycle. Right. It's just it doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. But that's what I enjoyed, and that's what
Speaker 1: I loved about it. I love riding my bike everywhere
Speaker 1: and riding it hard. I love lifting, and I just
Speaker 1: love the way I felt and the way people around
Speaker 1: me admired me, right, not just the aesthetics of it,
Speaker 1: but the respect you get from people who know how
Speaker 1: hard it is to build that kind of body, or
Speaker 1: to build that kind of strength, or to build that
Speaker 1: kind of performance. Right, it feels good, it feels It
Speaker 1: made me taste the beginnings of success. It made me
Speaker 1: feel really good that if you work hard, you will
Speaker 1: succeed and people will respect you for that. Right.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned the heart issue, right, A FIB. I
Speaker 2: think it's what it's called, right, Yeah, So that came
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, right, that was.
Speaker 1: Left field.
Speaker 2: So are you like in the best shape of your
Speaker 2: life at the time.
Speaker 1: No, I was just I think I was in the
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth, maybe sixth year of the gym when
Speaker 1: we had the gym cut Fitness, and I was training
Speaker 1: clients and I was transitioning from cycling into running because
Speaker 1: I wanted to do more spartan racing. And it was
Speaker 1: exciting to me because I was kind of venturing out
Speaker 1: trying new things because there's so much more to just
Speaker 1: exercising or training clients. Everybody's so different. I was looking
Speaker 1: for a different motivation experience that I can share with
Speaker 1: potential clients, that can come to me and say, well,
Speaker 1: why am I doing this? And that was my biggest
Speaker 1: question to them all the time, what is your why
Speaker 1: why are you here training? And for me it was like,
Speaker 1: I just don't want to do another bicyc curl for
Speaker 1: no reason. I don't want to do another squat for
Speaker 1: no reason. And when I got into Spartan, it was
Speaker 1: a little bit about everything endurance and strength, but not
Speaker 1: bodybuilder strength and not you know, like marathon endurance, but
Speaker 1: somewhere in between. So I really tried to find myself
Speaker 1: in that world of obstacle course racing. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I was pretty good at it. I
Speaker 1: had the strength, I had the endurance. But the one
Speaker 1: thing I remember is I didn't have the control of
Speaker 1: my heart when I was running. I would just run
Speaker 1: and my heart would be, you know, beaten out of
Speaker 1: my chest, and I'd be like, that's normal, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm That's just part of the pain that you feel
Speaker 1: when you're exercising. And it wasn't until I beat it
Speaker 1: up too much, you know, probably three years into Spartan racing.
Speaker 1: Then I started having these weird episodes where I couldn't breathe.
Speaker 1: It felt like I had asthma. I would run like
Speaker 1: ten yards and I feel like I just sprinted one
Speaker 1: hundred meters. And that's when I knew something was wrong,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know what it was. I had no
Speaker 1: idea that it was my heart. I thought it was
Speaker 1: my lungs because I couldn't breathe right. And when I
Speaker 1: went to the doctor, the general practitioners you know, checked
Speaker 1: me out. You seem to be fine. I'm going to
Speaker 1: send you to a cardiologist. I said, okay, I want
Speaker 1: to see a cardiologist. Cardiologist says, okay, I can get
Speaker 1: you in in two months. I'm like, okay, the problem's
Speaker 1: going on right now, but i'll see you in two months.
Speaker 1: And sure enough, leading up to the appointment, I was
Speaker 1: in really good shape because I had a spartan race
Speaker 1: coming up and again just pushing through the pain, pushing
Speaker 1: through the two hundred beats per minute because I were
Speaker 1: a heart rate monitor. It hard, yeah, and it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that I was pushing that hard, but because
Speaker 1: the way atrofibrillation works, your heart shaking like this, so
Speaker 1: it gives off a signal that your heart's beating twice
Speaker 1: as fast, right, and the signal that comes on your
Speaker 1: heart rate monitors, like two hundred beats from inn it
Speaker 1: and what the hell is this? I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: like a teenager. I shouldn't be in this high range, right,
Speaker 1: But it didn't make sense to me. It didn't. It
Speaker 1: just didn't click, and I didn't figure it out until
Speaker 1: you know, long story short, I met a doctor. I
Speaker 1: told him the the my friend doctor Lee. I told
Speaker 1: him what the symptoms were and he says, it sounds
Speaker 1: like you had aphib and you should go see a
Speaker 1: doctor right away. So we made an appointment and it
Speaker 1: was three months later, and my wife's like, we can't
Speaker 1: wait that long. So we found another doctor that could
Speaker 1: get us sin sooner, and within about two weeks we
Speaker 1: were and I think in sant Ana. There's a hospital there,
Speaker 1: I forget the name of it that a doctor that
Speaker 1: specializes in heart issues. And he diagnosed me and figured
Speaker 1: it out. We have aphib we're dealing with. And he says,
Speaker 1: here's how it works. Because of your insurance, I can't
Speaker 1: go straight to and do a ablation. I have to
Speaker 1: put you on drugs first. After the drugs don't work,
Speaker 1: which is the minimum of two weeks you have to
Speaker 1: take these drugs. Then I have to do a cardio
Speaker 1: version on you, which is a like a resetting your
Speaker 1: heart to rhythm. And if that doesn't work, then I'm
Speaker 1: authorized to do a cart an ablation on you, which
Speaker 1: is where they go into your heart and I try
Speaker 1: not to think about it, but they go into your heart,
Speaker 1: to your fremortal arteries and they zap your heart wall
Speaker 1: so that the additional signals that are piercing through your
Speaker 1: heart creating this electrical issue won't work anymore and you
Speaker 1: get back to regular heartbeat. And that's the solution to
Speaker 1: aphib right. The others obviously is drugs. And that's what
Speaker 1: the first doctor said, is like, if these procedures don't work,
Speaker 1: you can live with aphib and take drugs for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. I'm like, bro, I spent my
Speaker 1: life exercising, eating healthy, taking care of my health, so
Speaker 1: I don't end up on pharmaceuticals for the rest of
Speaker 1: my life, and so I don't end up relying on
Speaker 1: doctors for the rest of my life. This is why
Speaker 1: I lived this lifestyle. So no, I am not taking drugs.
Speaker 1: And he even proceeded to say, after the last ablation,
Speaker 1: or the first ablation he did. He proceeded to say, well,
Speaker 1: it didn't work, and the drugs aren't working, and we
Speaker 1: have this one drug that we can try that you
Speaker 1: have to stay in the hospital for three days, two
Speaker 1: or three days because in case you die, we have
Speaker 1: to bring you back. And I'm like, what part of
Speaker 1: I don't want to take drugs? Did you not understand?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: So it was it was a scary time. The doctors
Speaker 1: really couldn't tell me what caused it. They just they
Speaker 1: said it's partially hereditary. And there's five profiles of people
Speaker 1: that get this atro fibrillation. Women I think around sixty
Speaker 1: five plus. They're susceptible, men seventy five plus. They're susceptible,
Speaker 1: obese and sick, and you know, metabolic challenge people, smokers,
Speaker 1: drug addicts, and people that abuse substances, and endurance athletes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I never considered myself an endurance athlete,
Speaker 1: but when I sat down and thought about it, I realized, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: maybe riding a bike one hundred miles up a mountain
Speaker 1: back and forth, that might be considered a lot of
Speaker 1: work on the body and a lot of stress on
Speaker 1: the body. So maybe I am an endurance athlete because
Speaker 1: for me at the time, the definition of an durance
Speaker 1: athlete is somebody that can run one hundred miles, right,
Speaker 1: or ride a bike for two hundred miles. It's all relative, right,
Speaker 1: I Mean when I used to talk about, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just went on a fifty mile bike ride, People's eyes like,
Speaker 1: you rode your bike for fifty miles. I don't even
Speaker 1: drive my car twenty miles a day. How do you
Speaker 1: ride for fifteen miles? Right, So it didn't really hit
Speaker 1: me until I understood, Okay, so I am an endurance athlete.
Speaker 1: I am pushing myself really hard and full circle. You know.
Speaker 1: Still to today, I'm still trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: caused it. I'm taking clues here and there. I'm still
Speaker 1: learning on you know, the best nutrition practices, the best
Speaker 1: way to avoid these things from happening. And it has
Speaker 1: completely changed my way of looking at fitness in a
Speaker 1: way where I'm looking for a longevity now. Because, yeah,
Speaker 1: I grew up as an athlete. I know that pain
Speaker 1: is just part of the journey. But if you're not
Speaker 1: getting paid to be a professional athlete or to push
Speaker 1: yourself that hard, it's it's not worth doing hit every day.
Speaker 1: It's not worth kicking your ass in the gym every day.
Speaker 1: I know it feels good, especially a good hit workout
Speaker 1: just clears your head, but long term, think about the
Speaker 1: risk reward. And I used to tell my clients, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't totally have anything against CrossFit, but
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the people that are human don't
Speaker 1: qualify for CrossFit. It's too hard, it's too strong, it's
Speaker 1: too taxing. And sure enough, you know, there was a
Speaker 1: run of about five years of CrossFit where everybody was
Speaker 1: getting hurt because they shouldn't be doing CrossFit it's just
Speaker 1: too hard.
Speaker 2: Like I was running seven days a week and man,
Speaker 2: I started to get some lower back issues that I
Speaker 2: was just like, okay, but I really need to run
Speaker 2: seven days a week, you know, five miles a day, Like, no,
Speaker 2: let me bring that back down to three. Because I
Speaker 2: don't want to get as I get older, Like I
Speaker 2: want to be able to walk and not be in pain.
Speaker 2: I want to be able to play with the kids
Speaker 2: and not be in pain. So like, I think that's
Speaker 2: such a great point that you bring up into like moderation, right,
Speaker 2: like you don't overdo it, especially when you're not getting
Speaker 2: paid and you don't really have to go that hard.
Speaker 2: How was your mental health after, because that's one of
Speaker 2: the things that I worry about, Like I don't like
Speaker 2: lifting heavy at all, just because I know how much
Speaker 2: I love working out, and I'm like, man, if I
Speaker 2: get hurt and I can't work out for the next
Speaker 2: week or two weeks, I'm going to be in a
Speaker 2: bad mood. And so obviously you have this heart condition
Speaker 2: at the time, Well, I guess you kind of still
Speaker 2: is like do you still do or it's pretty much gone.
Speaker 1: It's pretty mu's gone. But that one year I was
Speaker 1: diagnosed on December eighth, I think, twenty eighteen, and then
Speaker 1: January twenty nineteen is when the journey started, and that
Speaker 1: whole entire year was in and out of the hospital,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get diagnosed, trying to get fixed,
Speaker 1: and trying to get the right drugs that don't have
Speaker 1: or have very little side effects.
Speaker 2: At this point, do you still have your cut business?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Business? Yeah, So this is happening through you as you
Speaker 2: have the gym.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And here is you know, a coach and a
Speaker 1: leader in the space where I am motivating people to
Speaker 1: do things that they don't think they can do physically right,
Speaker 1: and I can't keep up with myself. I started feeling
Speaker 1: a little about of depression, I think in the middle
Speaker 1: of the year. And prior to that, I used to
Speaker 1: think depression is just stupid excuse not to do anything right.
Speaker 1: I mean, just get off your ass and go. And
Speaker 1: I've had close friends and family that have experienced depression.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, just get over it. It's stupid,
Speaker 1: it's nothing right. But I think I actually experienced about
Speaker 1: a depression because I couldn't exercise because it was exercise
Speaker 1: and deuce, so I couldn't do any cardio. I really
Speaker 1: didn't want to lift any weights because I just didn't
Speaker 1: have the energy, didn't want to go to work. I
Speaker 1: felt like an eighty year old man. I needed to
Speaker 1: take a nap in the afternoon. I was not productive
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to do a whole lot of anything.
Speaker 1: I even hired one of my trainers to manage the
Speaker 1: gym while I wasn't there. And I just really felt
Speaker 1: bad about myself, you know, getting to this point where
Speaker 1: what am I going to do? This is my livelihood,
Speaker 1: this is my life, this is how I live this
Speaker 1: is how I manage my mental health, my physical health,
Speaker 1: my emotional health. This is all me. What am I
Speaker 1: going to do now? You know, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: take drugs for the rest of my life. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just that's just not going to happen. So I
Speaker 1: did a lot of research, I did a lot of reading,
Speaker 1: and I learned, you know that you can fight it,
Speaker 1: that there is a possibility that you can win. There's
Speaker 1: a great book called Beat eight FIB or something like
Speaker 1: that that really motivated me because it gave me scenarios
Speaker 1: of other people that have gone through a FIB and
Speaker 1: what they did to beat it and how they beat it.
Speaker 1: And I was very fortunate, very fortunate. I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that that kind of God put
Speaker 1: me in the path of being famous, right because being
Speaker 1: famous gave me the privilege to reach out to one
Speaker 1: of the top doctors in the world that said, you
Speaker 1: know what, if nobody can fix you, I will take
Speaker 1: you on and I'll fix you. And sure enough he did.
Speaker 1: This guy was just an amazing doctor. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: got like five or something like ten patents in the industry.
Speaker 1: He's the guy that other doctors go to to hear
Speaker 1: him speak and learn about it. So I I mean,
Speaker 1: there's royalty that goes to this doctor from around the
Speaker 1: world to have him fix them. And I got lucky
Speaker 1: enough to have the best doctor help me, and he
Speaker 1: fixed me. He really is. I call him my guardian
Speaker 1: angel because he gave me a second chance to be
Speaker 1: who I am today and help people, you know, because
Speaker 1: you got to look at the silver lining. I'm on
Speaker 1: this platform I can. I've had so many conversations with
Speaker 1: other people who have had APHAN and experienced it and
Speaker 1: asked me questions, you know, and I just experience share.
Speaker 1: That's that's the best thing I can do.
Speaker 2: As you're as you're going through the depression that you're
Speaker 2: going through, the little mental health issue because obviously, again
Speaker 2: you're used to working out every day, all of a
Speaker 2: sudden that's taken away from you. Doest thou now start
Speaker 2: to affect your marriage at all? Like are you snapping?
Speaker 2: Are you just in a bad mood? Did that mess
Speaker 2: with your marriage at all?
Speaker 1: My wife told me that leading up to it, I
Speaker 1: was pretty snappy and irritable a lot. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was my health or it was just
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when you own a business, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of shit going on. I would say all the time, right,
Speaker 1: But during the journey, it really brought us closer together.
Speaker 1: It was never like there was some back and forth
Speaker 1: because I in the beginning I didn't want to take
Speaker 1: the drugs and she totally called me out on that
Speaker 1: in front of the doctor, and I'm like, babe, I
Speaker 1: thought you were on my side. But you know, she
Speaker 1: was definitely looking out for my best interest, and there
Speaker 1: was just I had a terrible experience with the drugs.
Speaker 1: I don't like taking drugs. I don't like the way
Speaker 1: they make me feel. But outside of that, she was
Speaker 1: there supporting me, helping me, doing this much as she
Speaker 1: can for me, you know, short of catering to me,
Speaker 1: you know, because she's not that type of person. She
Speaker 1: was really there to help me if I needed anything
Speaker 1: anything at all, love, support, kindness, you know. Just she
Speaker 1: was amazing. And she was struggling with it herself too,
Speaker 1: like thinking like the worst case scenario, like what if
Speaker 1: you diees, what do you as a stroke? Because it's
Speaker 1: not aphib that is the medical problem or the risks,
Speaker 1: it's the heart doing this and not pumping one hundred
Speaker 1: percent of the blood in and out of the heart.
Speaker 1: That causes clots to form in your heart and this
Speaker 1: little area called the appendage. So if clots start to
Speaker 1: form there after a little bit of time, those things
Speaker 1: will go into your brain and now you have a stroke.
Speaker 1: And that's when things get really, really nasty. You know,
Speaker 1: when you have you're pretty much screwed. Part of your
Speaker 1: brain is dead, and now somebody has to take care
Speaker 1: of you. And you know, jokingly, my wife would you know,
Speaker 1: frequently joke about it, like if you get a stroke,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking care of you. I Am not wiping
Speaker 1: your ass for the rest of your life. So I said,
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen, but definitely scared me, definitely
Speaker 1: woke me up. I'm still not totally for going to
Speaker 1: see the doctor for any little reason. I still believe
Speaker 1: that we all have to be responsible for our own
Speaker 1: health and wellness and only go to the doctor to
Speaker 1: do the deep dive. Like I just recently had my
Speaker 1: blood drawn so I can get all my levels checked
Speaker 1: and see where I'm at, you know, from my testosterone
Speaker 1: to my cholesterol, to my vitamins and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: vitamin levels just so I can stay aware, you know,
Speaker 1: of how I'm doing. When I was in a in
Speaker 1: the hospital and had APHEB, they I did all the
Speaker 1: tests that you can imagine, everything came back clear and
Speaker 1: my only problem was aphib So it was a very
Speaker 1: rare thing to see. Right, most of the older generation
Speaker 1: or the older people that get aphib or the people
Speaker 1: that abuse their body get aphib is because of the abuse,
Speaker 1: the trauma that your heart has gone through that creates
Speaker 1: aphib So the only trauma that I can only think
Speaker 1: of that I created for myself was pushing myself so
Speaker 1: hard that my heart finally said, hey, I've had enough
Speaker 1: of this one hundred and eighty beats per minute, I'm done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really was a scary time. It took me about
Speaker 1: three years to really start feeling confident that I can
Speaker 1: get back to my normal life, which is cycling, you know,
Speaker 1: for fifty sixty eighty miles, hiking, riding my dirt bike,
Speaker 1: riding my Harley, staying active. I just love to stay
Speaker 1: active and be outdoors and enjoy my life and traveling
Speaker 1: right and being sick, you can't do any of those things.
Speaker 2: Well, it's so important to move your body right, like
Speaker 2: whenever I'm also like I find myself in a bad
Speaker 2: mood or just going through a bad you know, you
Speaker 2: have those bad days or just that two hours, like
Speaker 2: I'll go walk or just around the corner, I'll get
Speaker 2: on the treadmill, or you know, I'll go on a
Speaker 2: little run. And it's just crazy how much you how
Speaker 2: better you feel after you move your body, right versus
Speaker 2: if you're just kind of laying there in bed all
Speaker 2: day like that. I don't know about you, but that
Speaker 2: puts me in a bad mood when I'm not moving
Speaker 2: my body. I want to move my body all the time.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny. Even when I take phone calls.
Speaker 2: You know, now with the headphones and stuff, you can't
Speaker 2: hear anything. I mean, the person listening to you can
Speaker 2: They can only hear your voice. So most people don't know.
Speaker 2: But I'm actually playing basketball as I'm talking to them,
Speaker 2: like I'm shooting I'm driving in because I just I
Speaker 2: love moving my moving my body, and it puts me
Speaker 2: in like this good state, you know, like a peak state,
Speaker 2: you know. And it's interesting. I tell people all the time,
Speaker 2: don't make decisions when you're feeling bad or when you're
Speaker 2: when you're in a bad sort of state of mind
Speaker 2: because you're taking council from worry and doubt and fear.
Speaker 2: So you want to put yourself in a good place
Speaker 2: before you make a decision. So sometimes when I did
Speaker 2: make a decision, I'll go run for twenty minutes, or
Speaker 2: if I'm pissed off at someone, I'll go run for
Speaker 2: twenty minutes, and then all of a sudden, I'm it's
Speaker 2: like I have clarity. Yeah, yeah, right, and totally the
Speaker 2: importance of that, right. So yeah, so I love everything
Speaker 2: you said there. I actually like going to the doctor
Speaker 2: every year and I like make sure they check everything
Speaker 2: because you know, we just had Terry debro On prior
Speaker 2: to this, andeah, you know he talked about, you know,
Speaker 2: just the importance of catching stuff early, and like I'm like,
Speaker 2: I personally want to live to one hundred years hopefully, right,
Speaker 2: and and I want to catch it up early. So
Speaker 2: I'm always like once a year, I'm going to the
Speaker 2: doctor check for everything. And you know, obviously there's that
Speaker 2: little fear part, but I just I rather know early
Speaker 2: so we can fix something right, because you can't improve
Speaker 2: on something you're not aware of.
Speaker 1: You did that preneuble scan. Right, my wife did that.
Speaker 2: I did anything? No, thank god they didn't. So a
Speaker 2: great condition. And you know that was my whole thing
Speaker 2: is I want to be able to find you know.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm terrified of like because I see
Speaker 2: so many people that are in good health all of
Speaker 2: a sudden have a heart attack. Right, So I'm like
Speaker 2: telling the doctor, Hey, what do we gotta do? What
Speaker 2: do we got to check? So my heart's in a
Speaker 2: good condition, So like what do I need to do?
Speaker 2: And and I mean so far, so so good. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's something I'm I'm very intentional about. You know, as
Speaker 2: I get older, I'm eating less red meat. You know,
Speaker 2: it's funny I had the same thing happen to me
Speaker 2: with with when I was younger. I used to work
Speaker 2: out in the gym for like two and a half hours,
Speaker 2: and then after I'd go to Jack in the Box.
Speaker 2: I'd go to a double Ultimate cheeseburger, I'd get the fries,
Speaker 2: I'd get the cheesecake, and you know, I didn't know
Speaker 2: any better, right, So it's just like why was my
Speaker 2: body changing them? I mean like I was getting big
Speaker 2: arms and you know, I was getting a big chest.
Speaker 2: But like I just I wasn't eating right, but I
Speaker 2: was putting two and a half hours right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then what's interesting is when I flipped the script
Speaker 2: and I actually ate right. I only had to work
Speaker 2: out for like forty minutes, yeah, forty minutes, forty five
Speaker 2: minutes and eat right, and I was and I got shredded.
Speaker 2: But what they say is true. Abs are made in
Speaker 2: the kitchen. They are.
Speaker 3: They are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do an AB workout all you want,
Speaker 2: but if you're not eating right, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So the you know the importance of eating right from
Speaker 2: mental health as well. And now have you heard that?
Speaker 2: I forgot where I read this, But if you had
Speaker 2: a chance with what's better for your mental health? They
Speaker 2: say either reading right, I'm sorry to exercise your mind right,
Speaker 2: what's better reading or running? Running is number one? I
Speaker 2: thought it was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to me it makes sense because when you're running,
Speaker 1: you're pumping fresh oxygen into your muscles, into your blood.
Speaker 1: It's almost like circulating fresh air, which feeds the cells,
Speaker 1: which makes you healthier, which makes them stronger. And I
Speaker 1: think that is what gets into your head, the fresh blood,
Speaker 1: the fresh fluids and everything that just cleanses you. If
Speaker 1: you will just sweating, you know, that's a natural reaction
Speaker 1: of exercising. You're detoxifying that way. Sitting still reading, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it exercises your mind, but then the rest of your
Speaker 1: body will deteriorate because it's not moving.
Speaker 2: M Son.
Speaker 1: Eventually, if you do just sit and read, your brain
Speaker 1: might be active and we can, you know, cut your
Speaker 1: head off and hold you there so you can read,
Speaker 1: but the rest of your body is going to be
Speaker 1: atrophied because it can't do anything.
Speaker 2: So I do this, I think just because I got
Speaker 2: used to it, But I don't know, Like I know
Speaker 2: it does great for me, but I don't know the
Speaker 2: science behind it. You being obviously, you know, taking all
Speaker 2: the courses that you've taken, you probably could answer this.
Speaker 2: But like for me, water is so important. Like I
Speaker 2: feel that most people are tired all the time because
Speaker 2: they're dehydrated and they don't even know it. But like
Speaker 2: for me, like I got to have my gallon of
Speaker 2: water every day, and that keeps me fresh and gives
Speaker 2: me energy. And also I find that it doesn't it
Speaker 2: allows me with not getting hungry. I'm constantly drinking my water. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: so what are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: My thoughts on water is that it is very important,
Speaker 1: and that's probably one of the first lessons I learned.
Speaker 1: Your muscles are made of seventy three percent water, right,
Speaker 1: so logically you want to keep those hydrated so they
Speaker 1: function properly, because the worst thing that can happen to
Speaker 1: you is dehydration. Dehydration creates headaches, dehydration creates weakness and
Speaker 1: cramping in your muscles. So water in and of itself
Speaker 1: is really good for you. Now, the new science lately
Speaker 1: is that salt, electrolytes, potassium, they all are essential nutrients,
Speaker 1: minerals that your body needs to really take advantage of
Speaker 1: the water because with water, if you drink too much water,
Speaker 1: like a gallon of water, there's such a thing that
Speaker 1: you can drown yourself.
Speaker 2: I heard about it.
Speaker 1: I've only heard it about two people, and I've and
Speaker 1: I have a friend, really good friend of mine, and
Speaker 1: that data a girl who used to do that. And
Speaker 1: when I met her, she would drink a gallon of
Speaker 1: water and a couple of months later I found out
Speaker 1: that she had that condition where she her brain was
Speaker 1: full of water. She was just drinking too much water,
Speaker 1: you know, excessive amounts of water for water. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: it comes down to your lifestyle and environment. So if
Speaker 1: you live in the desert and you're active, you definitely
Speaker 1: have to increase your water intake. It's a no brainer, right.
Speaker 1: But if you live in Alaska, where it's colder, maybe drier,
Speaker 1: and you're not very active, you don't really need that
Speaker 1: much water because you'll get it from your fresh food.
Speaker 1: I mean most of the food in Alaska, fish and stuff,
Speaker 1: it's fresh, right, or you do get water from fresh
Speaker 1: whole foods. So if you live a life where you're
Speaker 1: on the go all the time and you're eating out
Speaker 1: of boxes and bags and you know, just everything processed,
Speaker 1: you're definitely going to dehydrate yourself because your body uses
Speaker 1: the water to process all these dry foods. And here's
Speaker 1: a perfect example. This is a new revelation. Our last
Speaker 1: dog that we had was on dry kibble food, you know,
Speaker 1: the dry dog food, and he would drink water all
Speaker 1: the time. Now, our new dog that we just got,
Speaker 1: he's on wet food. We order his food. He's kind
Speaker 1: of spoiled, but all he eats is fresh wet food,
Speaker 1: fresh vegetables, and fresh chicken and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: he hardly ever drinks water. And to me, the logic
Speaker 1: is he's getting his nutrition and his hydration from the food,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't feel like he has to drink a
Speaker 1: lot of water. Now, when we go up to the
Speaker 1: mountains because it is drier, he does drink a little
Speaker 1: bit more water. And you know, that just leads me
Speaker 1: to believe the dogs pretty much are pretty smart animals.
Speaker 1: They know when they need more water and when they don't.
Speaker 2: Right, interesting for us for someone for someone that drinks
Speaker 2: a lot of coffee, you need a lot more water, right.
Speaker 1: I would say yes, because it's diuretic, But I mean,
Speaker 1: don't go into extremes. You know, what is the definition
Speaker 1: of a lot of coffee? Is it a pot of coffee? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's successive. But remember there's still liquid in the coffee.
Speaker 1: The problem is not the hydration. The problem is the
Speaker 1: amount of caffeine you're taken in. That's going to cause
Speaker 1: other issues, right, Adrenal fatigue because you're running on fake energy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. To me, coffee is a
Speaker 1: nice thing to enjoy in the morning, but maybe one
Speaker 1: cup or two at the most. I've been around people
Speaker 1: who drink a pot of coffee. I had a client
Speaker 1: who milligrams do you think is too much coffee? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd say one cup of coffee it's around twenty five
Speaker 1: to fifty milligrams, depending on whether it's an expresso or
Speaker 1: just regular coffee.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have more than four cups, that's successive.
Speaker 1: So anything above one hundred milligrams with caffe is probably excessive.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of drinks out there that easily
Speaker 1: taught that. You know, there's a lot of energy drinks
Speaker 1: that are two hundred milligrams of caffeine, and that's why
Speaker 1: people like them. It's not the taste, it's not the
Speaker 1: health benefits. It's the two hundred milligrams of caffeine that
Speaker 1: give you this fake energy. And you think you're operating
Speaker 1: that your optimum performance, when in reality is you're not
Speaker 1: getting much sleep, you're not eating enough healthy nutrients to
Speaker 1: feed yourself, so your organs work properly, and you're tired
Speaker 1: all the time. But your solution is to drink more
Speaker 1: coffee and more coffee, more energy drinks, more energy drinks,
Speaker 1: and you know, you get to the point where like, okay,
Speaker 1: none of that is working, So maybe let's try a
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical adderall, you know, so then they start taking adderall
Speaker 1: and that stops working. So now let's try cocaine, and
Speaker 1: let's try all these things you know that are fake energy. Right,
Speaker 1: Natural pure energy, if you've ever experienced it and you have,
Speaker 1: comes from the sun, comes from your diet, comes from
Speaker 1: your level of activity, and you're obviously your mental health.
Speaker 1: You know, all those things are really important to give
Speaker 1: you that natural energy. That's why I actually have friends
Speaker 1: that bounce off the wall that don't drink coffee.
Speaker 2: Well, it's so I'm glad you mentioned that because you
Speaker 2: mentioned the sun, Like the sun is so important, Like
Speaker 2: in the morning, I try to get sun as soon
Speaker 2: as I can, right yeah, because it just it gets
Speaker 2: you in, Like it gets me in a good mood,
Speaker 2: right yeah. I notice when I'm in my office all day,
Speaker 2: I'm just not in a very good mood. The sun
Speaker 2: just puts you in a good mood. I'd like to,
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen twenty minutes, I'll take a call outside
Speaker 2: in the sun. I try to do it in the
Speaker 2: morning before it gets crazy hot. Yeah, but there's something
Speaker 2: about just being in the sun in the morning that
Speaker 2: just like you know, puts me in this mood and
Speaker 2: it's like good peak mode, peak state.
Speaker 1: And consequently when it's you know, a month or two
Speaker 1: of no sun and just that puts you in a
Speaker 1: bad mood too, right, right, I'm not kidding our son
Speaker 1: in California, and maybe that's when we get her into
Speaker 1: our red light therapy sauna and get our you know,
Speaker 1: our feed from that. But I have a friend who
Speaker 1: created this protocol called Superhuman Protocol and it's it's three
Speaker 1: protocols that bring cellular energy to you. The first is grounding.
Speaker 1: Have you ever grounded or heard of grounding?
Speaker 2: I heard about it. This is when you walk in
Speaker 2: cement and stuff, well just just walk barefoot un dirt
Speaker 2: or grass, and the the energy from the earth electrifies
Speaker 2: your cells and balances them out and kind of kind
Speaker 2: of puts them in a pot in a position where
Speaker 2: they're they're functioning an optimal performance and they're ready to
Speaker 2: their charge, ready to absorb whatever you put it through.
Speaker 1: That's the first protocol. And they make a electrical mat
Speaker 1: it's called the PMF mat that you can lay on
Speaker 1: for ten minutes a day and it does the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. So the purpose behind that is for people
Speaker 1: who are afraid to, you know, go barefoot anywhere, you
Speaker 1: can use this map for that. The second part of
Speaker 1: the protocol is oxygen. Forcing oxygen into your lungs to
Speaker 1: get that into your cells, into your muscles, and you
Speaker 1: don't have to do super hard cardio. You just put
Speaker 1: this oxygen mask into your face and you do intervals
Speaker 1: for like ten or fifteen minutes just to get your
Speaker 1: heart rate up to pump that fresh, like ninety eight
Speaker 1: percent fresh oxygen into your system. That pure oxygen continues
Speaker 1: to charge the cells, continues to fill the body. And
Speaker 1: this is something I learned recently about pain. Anywhere you
Speaker 1: feel pain, it's because there's lack of oxygen in there.
Speaker 1: So like if somebody kicks you or knees you and
Speaker 1: Charlie Horse, you know, that cuts the oxygen flow into
Speaker 1: that muscle, and that's where the pain comes from. Is
Speaker 1: the lack of oxygen happens with low back issues as well,
Speaker 1: or back issues where it's just you're not moving, you're
Speaker 1: not using it, so it's going to lack the oxygen,
Speaker 1: it's going to start creating pain. So the second part
Speaker 1: of the protocol is pretty awesome because it's just you're
Speaker 1: getting either on a bicycle or you get it on
Speaker 1: a stair step or whatever you can do to get
Speaker 1: your heart rate up and down for about ten fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes and you break a little sweat. But again, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be an all out, high intense interval
Speaker 1: session because you're getting pure ninety eight percent oxygen into
Speaker 1: your lungs. Then after that you sit in red light
Speaker 1: therapy and then that's where the magic happens because your
Speaker 1: body's open, your cells are open, and everything comes together.
Speaker 1: To me, it's the equivalent of running barefoot on a
Speaker 1: grassy area doing intervals up and down the hill, absorbed
Speaker 1: the sun for maybe you know, fifteen to thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: You know, just it's a quick session barefoot. But you know,
Speaker 1: we live in an age where everybody has to wear shoes.
Speaker 1: You know, Nike sells your shoes because they make you
Speaker 1: believe that you need shoes. But I remember when I
Speaker 1: was literal, I'd run around with no shoes all the time,
Speaker 1: no shirt, and you know, play in the dirt and
Speaker 1: grass and roll around and I just felt the best
Speaker 1: I had, you know, unlimited amounts of energy. So I
Speaker 1: do believe in that combination, getting you know, connected with
Speaker 1: the earth, getting you know, that vibration from the earth,
Speaker 1: the electrical charge, getting fresh as fresh oxygen. And where's
Speaker 1: the best place to get as fresh oxygen without having
Speaker 1: to pay for it in the woods next to all
Speaker 1: the trees, right. And then of course the red light
Speaker 1: therapy is the safe therapy of sunlight. You know, there
Speaker 1: are some bad rays that you do get from the
Speaker 1: sun if you stay out there too long. But the sun,
Speaker 1: I believe, is essential and it gives you energy and
Speaker 1: it makes you feel good mentally and physically. Right, it's
Speaker 1: just not a physical thing. It's not just about vitamin D.
Speaker 1: You do feel good when you're out in the sun.
Speaker 2: For me nowadays, speaking of energy, like for me, I
Speaker 2: noticed too that well, first of all, I love to
Speaker 2: cold plunge like that's been a game changer for me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: especially as I was doing these hit workouts and just
Speaker 2: getting older. It's just what it did to my joints.
Speaker 2: It took all my pain away like that and a
Speaker 2: huge change, and then you burn a ton of calories
Speaker 2: doing it. It's quick, but more importantly for me, it
Speaker 2: was like the joint pain went away I do the sauna.
Speaker 2: I love to meditate. The meditation for me has helped
Speaker 2: me with focus just you know, nowadays is where you
Speaker 2: can easily get distracted so well, so easily, right that,
Speaker 2: Like I think like attention is like the new currency.
Speaker 2: Like if you can master attention, you're going to do
Speaker 2: pretty well for yourself. Because what I found is one
Speaker 2: of the best ways to show people that you care
Speaker 2: about them is by paying attention to them, right, because
Speaker 2: now you show them that they're important to you. But
Speaker 2: if you're constantly and what meditation does really when you
Speaker 2: do it is you just realize that your mind started
Speaker 2: to wonder, wander and bring it back to meditating, right,
Speaker 2: Like that's the whole point of it, is just become
Speaker 2: aware of when your mind loses focus and then bring
Speaker 2: it back to your breathing. So that for me has
Speaker 2: helped me a ton. And I try to do it
Speaker 2: while I'm in the sauna at one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: degrees because my body's kind of under you know, the rest,
Speaker 2: and like I'm I'm having a hard time breathing, yet
Speaker 2: I got to focus on the breathing and so I
Speaker 2: like doing it. I like doing it while I'm there.
Speaker 2: And then the other thing for me about just I
Speaker 2: don't know for you, but like for me, being productive
Speaker 2: gives me energy. Like I realized, when I'm not productive
Speaker 2: is when I'm depleted of all energy. Right, Like I
Speaker 2: could work a sixteen hour day and as long as
Speaker 2: I feel productive, I can come home and I have
Speaker 2: endless energy. But there's times where I'll work a sixteen
Speaker 2: hour day and I'm depleted the ball energy because I
Speaker 2: didn't get anything done.
Speaker 1: You got when done day the entire.
Speaker 2: Or you didn't get anything done and you just put
Speaker 2: this whole day of work, right, So like you know,
Speaker 2: for me, I love saying that, you know, execute being
Speaker 2: overwhelmed by overwhelming execution, right, you know, I think for me,
Speaker 2: like in my experience, I'm just talking for me, the
Speaker 2: cured of my anxiety is action. When I'm productive, like
Speaker 2: my anxiety goes away. You know. It's like if you
Speaker 2: spend your time and energy being productive, you'll have less
Speaker 2: time and energy or anxiety. Like, spend your time kicking
Speaker 2: ass instead of worrying about how much ass you have
Speaker 2: to kick, right, And you know that's that's the thing
Speaker 2: with me with like with the mental health stuff, for me, Like,
Speaker 2: I just I like to be productive, and I notice
Speaker 2: when I'm not productive, that's when my mind starts going
Speaker 2: a little craikray, right, and so like you know, I
Speaker 2: call it a the high frequency. When I'm in a
Speaker 2: high frequency is when I have clarity and I don't
Speaker 2: have much thought, right, Like you're not thinking right. When
Speaker 2: you're in a low frequency is when you have a
Speaker 2: lot of clutter in your head and you're just thinking
Speaker 2: about all kinds of crazy stuff. Like think about when
Speaker 2: you're overthinking stuff, it's always bad stuff, Like when have
Speaker 2: we overthought great stuff? Like you're not going to sit
Speaker 2: around for two hours just thinking about how great your
Speaker 2: life is. Right, Yet when it's bad, things like you're
Speaker 2: overthinking the crap out of it and the whole yeah,
Speaker 2: the whole day. You're just obsessed with all the shit
Speaker 2: that could go wrong. And that's why, like you know,
Speaker 2: as far as like my mental health and stuff, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you could either choose faith or you can choose fear. Right,
Speaker 2: they're both the same thing, right, one is the projection.
Speaker 2: One is the projection of the most positive thing for
Speaker 2: the future, and the other one is the projection of
Speaker 2: the worst possible thing the future. So whether you like
Speaker 2: it or not, you're you're faith based. So like ninety
Speaker 2: of winning is just remaining positive, positive, right, And I
Speaker 2: think for me, that's why gratitude is so important for
Speaker 2: mental health. And I think you know, forgiveness and gratitude
Speaker 2: are inseparable, and bitterness and ungratefulness are also inseparable, right,
Speaker 2: And I think that's the beauty of gratitude is that
Speaker 2: you know, when you forgive, you're going to be grateful,
Speaker 2: and then when you're grateful, it unlocks love and it
Speaker 2: unleashes love, right.
Speaker 1: And that is totally beneficial as well. To forgive yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, because we sometimes are the worst critic and
Speaker 1: the hardest on ourselves, especially for highly high achievers. If
Speaker 1: we don't forgive ourselves for making a mistake or not
Speaker 1: accomplishing something, that just stacks on top of the anxiety.
Speaker 1: And yes, that's where you know, self wellness is really important.
Speaker 1: I've had many clients that feel guilty that they're taking
Speaker 1: care of their health, you know, like.
Speaker 2: The number one thing they should invest in. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: if you feel good about yourself, that's what you're going
Speaker 2: to transfer to other people. But if you like if
Speaker 2: you feel like shit, then that's what you're going to
Speaker 2: transfer to other people, because you can't transfer something you're
Speaker 2: not experiencing.
Speaker 1: Right, I always used to tell them. I use the
Speaker 1: example of flying. You know, when you fly, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They never change the story when if there's an issue
Speaker 1: and those gas you know, masks come down, put yours
Speaker 1: on first before you help anybody else. Right, is that
Speaker 1: selfish or is that smart? That's smart because now you're functional,
Speaker 1: Now you're getting the oxygen, and now you can help people,
Speaker 1: So it's not selfish.
Speaker 2: It's such a good point, Eddie that you bring up,
Speaker 2: because you know, I lost a I was bitter about
Speaker 2: losing a ton of money, and when you're bitter, I
Speaker 2: found myself ungrateful. And it wasn't until I forgave myself
Speaker 2: for losing that amount of money that I started to
Speaker 2: be grateful again.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Right. And that's why I say, for you know, forgiveness
Speaker 2: and gratitude are inseparable, but so is bitterness and ungratefulness.
Speaker 2: And and to your point, like when you forgive yourself,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you have gratitude, you know, And
Speaker 2: and the funny part about bitterness too, it's bitterness. You know,
Speaker 2: your the past for some reason is always gives you bitter,
Speaker 2: like when you're constantly in the past, it's like you're
Speaker 2: gonna find yourself kind of bitter, right, And.
Speaker 1: It's not productive. It really is that, it's not productive
Speaker 1: at all. It's kind of like jealousy. Jealousy is a
Speaker 1: little productive because women want you to be jealous because
Speaker 1: they feel loved, right, But to me, jealousy has always
Speaker 1: been a negative emotion and I've always avoided it. And
Speaker 1: I've come across situations where women used to think, well,
Speaker 1: you obviously don't love me because you're not jealous, and
Speaker 1: I used to explain to them, it's not that it's
Speaker 1: not that I'm not jealous. I'm just not going to
Speaker 1: fall for that emotion because it's not productive.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's so good. You could probably talk for
Speaker 2: another hour on health, but yeah, yeah for sure. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Well again, it was great tacking with you and
Speaker 1: catching up. I'm glad you're doing well and I look
Speaker 1: forward to our next podcast.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, another good show.
Speaker 1: Guys, Thanks for tuning in, Thank you for tuning in.
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