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Speaker 2: Us, it's time.

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Speaker 1: To bad.

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Speaker 2: Oh Yeah. The UFC has a new broadcasting home for

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Speaker 2: the next seven years, and Morning Combat is here to

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Speaker 2: break it down. Monday, August eleventh, twenty twenty five. Welcome

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Speaker 2: on in. I am the freshly dyed hair of Brian Gampbelly.

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Speaker 2: Here I just got younger.

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Speaker 2: Next to me is gray and old balls Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 2: and we are here for a fantastic Monday Morning show,

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas. Certainly massive breaking news that we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to in full detail in a few seconds. But how

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Speaker 2: the heck are you outside of that? You had a

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Speaker 2: weekend away with the fam. He got a little tan, little.

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Speaker 1: Tan, Yeah, I got a little tan. I had a dude.

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Speaker 1: I know, we were texting about it the other day.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you have vacations and they go great

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Speaker 1: a mix this year, man, because I didn't take much

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Speaker 1: of a vacation last year. Well that's not quite true,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't spend my family took one vacation without

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to spend a lot of time with

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Speaker 1: and it was amazing. I do want to say one

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Speaker 1: more thing too, man, Tuki is six now, and you

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Speaker 1: but like, I didn't know how to play with kids

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Speaker 1: it is, dude, it's joy beyond joy. It is the

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Speaker 2: Hey, I love when your heart is joyful. Luke, It's

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Speaker 2: always good to be a kid again. It's always good.

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Speaker 2: In the main card minute, mister Luke Long Island, no Sita.

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Speaker 4: What's up Boys Yo. Mystery bet hit again this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Fluffy, Hernandez buy sub over three and a half

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Speaker 1: By the way, on the drive to the beach, we

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, very cumbersome of you, Luke. I like homebers

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Speaker 2: No Friday episode this week, but this Thursday, live eleven

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Speaker 2: am Eastern from Meadow Larks Studios in Manhattan and live

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Speaker 2: on on YouTube of course, Morning Combat Presents UFC three

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Speaker 2: Top to Bottom pay per view from Chicago. It's LT,

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, we have a celebrity third man coming in

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Speaker 1: We got UFC hammer Matt Ravola. By the way, former

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Speaker 2: That shout out to Fravola. He did survive that fight

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Speaker 2: breaking news Luke Thomas, First and foremost, what does this

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Speaker 1: Well, we have to unpack those piece by piece because

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Speaker 1: he writes, what's on pay per view anymore? Boxing movies

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Speaker 2: And look, this is a major splash for David Ellison

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Speaker 2: So I think I said it earlier. It's thirteen pls,

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about that. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 2: More crazy because so many of us thought that Netflix

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Speaker 1: Well. I mean I was sitting here puffing my chest

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Speaker 1: First of all, we don't know where road to UFC.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a question for it. But BC, if

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you make of Netflix not not jumping

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Speaker 1: the UFC signed with Fox, Dana White put out a

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Speaker 1: video on the UFC's YouTube channel saying, folks, remember this,

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Speaker 1: I remember this very distinctly, saying that the UFC was

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Speaker 1: gonna sign a deal with ESPN and it was going

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Speaker 1: to change the face of the future of MMA forever.

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Speaker 1: And then they didn't sign one. They actually went instead

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Speaker 1: and signed with Fox Sports. Like there's always these last minute,

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Speaker 1: you know, direction changes that can come out of nowhere

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Speaker 1: besides man like, based on what the numbers we were

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Speaker 1: hearing one point one billion versus what I was hearing

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Speaker 1: and reading was, you know, sevent to eight hundred million

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Speaker 1: annually for the what they were looking at between all

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Speaker 1: the different properties for ESPN. I mean, dude, it's a

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Speaker 1: no brain. I mean, how do you turn dude? How

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Speaker 1: do you turn down one point one billion dollars annually.

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Speaker 1: That's such an enormous sum of money that you don't

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Speaker 1: have to share with the fighters, Like, how do you

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Speaker 1: how do you turn that down? It's just SU's game

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Speaker 1: changing amount of money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no word yet on what this means for

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Speaker 2: the fighters, but loss of pay per viewpoints pay is

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Speaker 2: probably stagnant moving forward, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, let's talk about the pay component, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say here. I think that

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Speaker 1: two things I would say. First, if you're a UFC

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Speaker 1: entrant or you know, you make fifty to you know,

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Speaker 1: two hundred k ish somewhere in there for a fight,

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Speaker 1: I don't think this deal affects the way you get

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Speaker 1: paid at all. Right. I mean again, we'll have to

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Speaker 1: see long term, I don't know, but right away nothing

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Speaker 1: strikes me. The question that is more interesting to me

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Speaker 1: is the high end. I think that's where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what does this mean? Now? Someone might noticeably say, well,

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Speaker 1: weren't pay per view buys so down that A the

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Speaker 1: UFC just got rid of them, and B it wasn't

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Speaker 1: so for folk who don't know how pay per viewpoints works,

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Speaker 1: they can change this up per deal. But let me

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Speaker 1: give you an example of how it works. It's a ladder, okay,

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Speaker 1: So any buys that. Let's say Iliot Taporia fights on

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Speaker 1: pay per view, and I'm gonna make something up BC

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Speaker 1: sells a million pay per view buys. How does that work. Well,

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Speaker 1: he gets a certain dollar amount from zero to two

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Speaker 1: hundred k buys, and then he gets a higher amount

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Speaker 1: from let's say two to three hundred, and then an

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Speaker 1: even higher amount four, three to five, and then usually

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Speaker 1: after that or certainly after seven or eight hundred, it

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Speaker 1: just becomes I think, like a flat fee, not flat fee.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the number doesn't keep going up at

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Speaker 1: that point, it gets to a certain level, and so

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Speaker 1: it's an escalating tier. And so where you fit in

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Speaker 1: that tier is how you get paid. Now, as I indicated,

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Speaker 1: the pay perview buys have apparently been so low that

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Speaker 1: many fighters weren't even getting the you know, the next

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Speaker 1: tier up triggered in their deal. And so in a

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Speaker 1: case like that, what you know, how does this change?

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Speaker 1: What does this change mean? The answer is maybe nothing,

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Speaker 1: but they're gonna have to calculate it differently, right you see,

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Speaker 1: like they're at least going to have to figure out

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Speaker 1: a new formula for how that goes. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know the answer to that. And by the way, I

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Speaker 1: want to be clear, like they're signing this deal, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is the second part about it. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you're an NBA player and the NBA signs a one

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Speaker 1: point one billion dollar deal, the players are going to

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Speaker 1: get upfront forty nine percent of that. They're going to

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Speaker 1: get forty nine percent of that upfront. The UFC fighters

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Speaker 1: are going to get nothing, write, nothing, not, not a penny.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this is where I go back to,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the right answer is to preserve

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Speaker 1: all of the interests of fighters. Is it the ALI Act,

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Speaker 1: is it unionization? I don't know. And even if they

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Speaker 1: had formed a union b C, it's not clear that

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Speaker 1: they would be able to extract forty nine percent, you know,

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Speaker 1: rent from them. But what I will say is, even

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Speaker 1: if it was twenty five percent, you know, let's just

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Speaker 1: say so that's conservatively what closer to three hundred million

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Speaker 1: annually that would be distributed to the fighters. That would

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Speaker 1: be a game changing amount of money. And they don't

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Speaker 1: get that because they couldn't even be bothered to do that.

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Speaker 1: So this is the fruits of their lack of labor.

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Speaker 1: They get to enjoy an absolute nothing burger on a

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Speaker 1: seven point seven billion dollar deal. Congratulations, Fellas, you really

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Speaker 1: I'll dig yourself with that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shout out to Heinauro Moiicano or as Shah,

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Speaker 2: we'll call them Mcano for giving back the cash that

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Speaker 2: was rightfully his. Wow wow wow. Final question on this, Luke,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll get into our rundown and all things fluffy.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Anthony Hernandez by the way. Wow uh.

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Speaker 2: Kicking off if we assume that this deal will start

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Speaker 2: in January, and they tend to go big in their intro. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the first UFC on Fox card, which was head to

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Speaker 2: head against Pacquiol Marquez three on pay per view in

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Speaker 2: boxing gave us the heavyweight championship came Velaskas versus Junior

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Speaker 2: Do Santo's Part one. I don't remember offhand what the

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Speaker 2: first UFC on ESPN card was, wasn't it t J.

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Speaker 1: Dillis was the one in Brooklyn? TJ. Dela Shaw, Henry Sahudo. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it was at ESPN Plus technically.

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Speaker 4: So wait, wasn't that a pay per view? And then

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Speaker 4: the first on ESPN linear was Kane versus Francis.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but the first one of the ESPN era. I

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Speaker 1: was at that card. It was at the Barclay Center.

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Speaker 1: I was there.

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Speaker 2: So those are very big events if you had to

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Speaker 2: knowing the UFC schedule of who might be available or

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Speaker 2: maybe who you think they would like to really launch

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Speaker 2: this with. Who would make sense to kick this off.

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Speaker 2: Connor's back in the pool. John's back in the pool.

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Speaker 2: We try not to talk about those guys too much anymore.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Well, by the way, I mean, just think about it. Logically,

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Speaker 1: that white House event is going to be on CBS, right,

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Speaker 1: has to be if.

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Speaker 2: They have it. I mean, is I still don't know

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Speaker 2: if that was like part of a negotiation ploy, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, but.

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Speaker 1: You know, all right, well, to the extent that they

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Speaker 1: have it, it'll be, it'll be on pay per view.

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Speaker 1: But uh, it's it's the same question like with the

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Speaker 1: white House thing, Like you know, it's a little early

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Speaker 1: to tell. I mean, I guess we're not too far

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Speaker 1: from January. I don't know. It'll be a title fight.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, say what.

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Speaker 2: Do put it on jan six? Is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's just go for it. Let's go on, No, no,

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Speaker 2: let's go.

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Speaker 1: It will be a title fight, like, it will be

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Speaker 1: a title fight. I don't know which one it'll be,

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Speaker 1: but it'll be a title fight.

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Speaker 2: I think you should get to Poria. But then again,

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Speaker 2: he's got to get a second fight at the end

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Speaker 2: of this year.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well, I mean that's right. I mean they

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Speaker 1: might use him for a December pay per view or like,

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Speaker 1: you know, how do they or to that point, who

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Speaker 1: do they save for that next end deal? And then

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Speaker 1: they punt on at the end of this one. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting to see. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: know the answer to that. It's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is huge, dude. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what this even means for me. It could be huge.

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Speaker 2: I told you nothing, No, dude, no one knew that. Okay, No,

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Speaker 2: we did hear whispers that again, we heard whispers internally

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Speaker 2: that it was possible that our company could be part

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Speaker 2: of the extended deal. No idea that it would be exclusive,

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Speaker 2: that it would be for this much money, that there

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Speaker 2: would be a CBS simulcast option built in, Like, dude,

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Speaker 2: for me as a CBS Sports and Paramount employee, this

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Speaker 2: is massive. This is really really big.

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Speaker 1: Let me say this again, for this is I'm just

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Speaker 1: reacting live, so forgive me TKO COO again. Mark Shapiro,

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Speaker 1: the chief operating Officer told CNBC this morning that the

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Speaker 1: deal with Paramount was originally BC just for the thirty

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Speaker 1: fight Night events. Okay, then the sky Skydance excuse me,

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Speaker 1: the Skydance Paramount merger was approved and they struck a

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Speaker 1: new deal within forty eight hours to bring everything to

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Speaker 1: Paramount Plus, including the end of the pay per view model.

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Speaker 1: So part of the this is why, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll speculator here we see, and that's all I'm doing

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Speaker 1: is speculating. I don't know what the answer is, but

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Speaker 1: I do wonder to what extent you know, this FCC

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Speaker 1: allowing the merger between Skuyddance in Paramount A it allowed

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Speaker 1: Paramount to have a lot more cash, right, and then

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Speaker 1: that changes the equation about what they want to do.

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Speaker 1: Because I want to be clear about this. Folks have

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Speaker 1: asked like, hey, didn't they say when they got rid

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Speaker 1: of you that they were out of the combat sports business.

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Speaker 1: And they were like, you can ask the producers on

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Speaker 1: staff who were Showtime they had a big call and

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Speaker 1: they were like, we're just out of the combat sports business.

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Speaker 2: Yea, boxing had to die for this, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Showtime boxing had to die, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this though, if you're getting into business in

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Speaker 1: combat sports and you're a broadcaster, right, you're a broadcast

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Speaker 1: entity getting the UFC rights package as opposed to a

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Speaker 1: hodgepotch of different boxing podcasts, podcasts, I'm sorry, boxing events

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Speaker 1: and and you know, you know, operators in the space.

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Speaker 1: It just makes a ton of sense, right. You get

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Speaker 1: the whole thing streamlined right there boom, easy to use,

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Speaker 1: and obviously, as we indicated, UFC fans are going to be,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, pretty loyal about where they go.

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Speaker 1: I would also add BC, you know, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: not notice that like UFC got rid of pay per

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Speaker 1: view and it's gonna be on linear television at the

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Speaker 1: same time, Top Rank couldn't even secure an eighty million

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Speaker 1: dollar renewal on ESPN. You know, there's no denying that.

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Speaker 1: If you're not in favor of the Boxing Revival Act

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Speaker 1: for what it might mean for you know, boxing monopolization,

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Speaker 1: I think that's fine. I am. However, there's no defending

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Speaker 1: the status quo. Yeah, you just can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, I'm coming around. I'm coming around

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Speaker 2: only on the idea that, like we tend to ignore

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Speaker 2: how broken boxing actually is and focus on, you know,

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Speaker 2: as a hardcore boxing guide and focus on the big things. Yet,

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Speaker 2: guess what, WBA just had a card into Zone over

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Speaker 2: the weekend from Benghazi, Libya, in which they gave out

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Speaker 2: even more extra bullshit titles, and it's like, this is

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Speaker 2: the shit we regularly deal with. By the way, they

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Speaker 2: he would have an announced team on that card. They

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Speaker 2: just streamed like the live event from an outdoor stadium.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's insane, it's wild. But we'll see

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Speaker 2: where it's all gonna happen. Obviously, ESPN is gonna have

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Speaker 2: a lot more money now if they want to go

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Speaker 2: big in combat whether that's boxing, whether that's zoofa boxing,

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Speaker 2: whether that's doubling down a PFL. So a lot, a

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Speaker 2: lot of fallout because, as you already know, Luke, everybody

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Speaker 2: in combat sports, every promoter and network was waiting for

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Speaker 2: the results of the UFC broadcasting deal to then figure

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Speaker 2: out where they fit in in a larger landscape. So big,

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Speaker 2: big news. All right, let's carry on with our regularly

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Speaker 2: scheduled program and that's certainly topic number one. UFC Fight

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Speaker 2: Night from the Apex Warehouse over the weekend gave us

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Speaker 2: a very interesting result. In this main event, Anthony Fluffy

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Speaker 2: Hernandez scored the best win of his career, maybe more

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Speaker 2: importantly consecutive win, maybe more importantly than that, in a

645
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: fight where he was finally healthy, unlike his last bout,

646
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: in a rematch against Brendan Allen, where he did, in

647
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: his own words, just enough to get the job done

648
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: while ill. He brutally bullied, beat down, gassed out, and

649
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: then stopped Roman Delidze in round four via rare naked

650
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: choke and as disrespectful and brutal a process, not disrespectful

651
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: in terms of taunting, just in terms of impact and

652
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: how he did it, constantly taking Deleds down, letting him

653
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: get back up, and just brutalizing him with big right

654
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: hands and even more takedowns. Luke we owe Fluffy an

655
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: apology in terms of where our expectations were, even though

656
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: he was the betting favorite. I don't think any of

657
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: us saw this coming. Just how impressive was this victory,

658
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: and considering it's a crowded title picture with the belt

659
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: being defended this Saturday, with Reneer de Ritter needing a

660
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: big fight, and oh how about Kyle Barrall Hall against

661
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: maybe the most deserving contender, nasserdine Imovov Bohalio. I'm sorry, uh,

662
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: how impressive is this? And could you actually see him

663
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: cutting the line after this when he did the discount

664
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 2: double check in the ring.

665
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, we had both predicted that Fluffy

666
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: would win, so we were not on the wrong side

667
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: of this one. But I definitely predicted they would go

668
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: the distance. I did not think he was going to

669
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: get the finish, and I still have some issues with

670
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: the performance. I want to be very clear about that. However,

671
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: what I will say is this is easily the best

672
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: he's ever performed that I've seen. You can find fights

673
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: that he won more quickly than this one PC. So

674
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: you know, folks all was like, oh, well, this one

675
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: was a little bit more dominant, right, But here's the

676
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: difference for me. Number One, he got the finish and

677
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: the finish itself BC Oh my god, it he looked

678
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: like a bouncer dragging a drunk out of the bar.

679
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: And that's not who I'm not trying to demean delize.

680
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like paint a picture of the viciousness

681
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: with which he closed the show. There that's the first

682
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: thing I'd say. But more to the point, BC, this

683
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: was what I really noticed. I had mentioned that at

684
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: times Fluffy can be a bit of a slow starter,

685
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: or you know, he doesn't really get cooking until a

686
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: little bit later in the fight. Dude, he was up

687
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: in Delieds's grill from the opening bell whoop, right across

688
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: in front of him, walked over there, and then of

689
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: course there were times where Delize would land and I shot,

690
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: or you know, would attempt something and it would push

691
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: Fluffy back, but then he'd get right back and close

692
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: the space. There was an urgency to his game that

693
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: I hadn't quite seen to the same level before, and

694
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: there was a cohesiveness to his game. It felt to me, BC,

695
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe you disagree, maybe you agree that his game had

696
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: kind of gelled a little bit. Now. There were parts

697
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: I did not like. As I indicated, he missed on

698
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: the one two to close the show or to close

699
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: the distance basically every single time. Like his range man

700
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: was a little bit off in that regard. But but

701
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: the presence of mind, the forcefulness of it, the relentlessness

702
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: of it, and the urgency right off the top made

703
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: such a big difference honestly, BC, I think it would

704
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: be unfair for him to jump the line if let's

705
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: say Imovov beats Kyle Bihalio. I do think that'd be

706
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: a little bit premature. However, I wouldn't cry about it.

707
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: I really wouldn't. He's doing special things. He's the middleweight morob.

708
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: I saw someone say he's like a middleweight Sean Brady. No,

709
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: he's not. Sean Brady's got much more technical finishing jiu

710
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: jitsu in top pressure. That's really not quite accurate. But BC,

711
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: from his front headlocks, to his cradles, to his snapdowns

712
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: to everything else, Fluffy is a tremendous talent and his

713
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: guillotines some of the best in the UFC.

714
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: Dude, he fall like a demon, and I think that

715
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: was a big part of it. Wasn't just jumping all

716
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: over to leeds. It was visibly showing a lack of

717
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: respect for what Delidze brought. Even when Delize would at

718
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: times fight for survival encounter, Fluffy just took it. He

719
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: put his hands down, he'd takes some shots almost my

720
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: argust style to send a message. It's insane, and I

721
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: do have to say one thing, Maybe we wrongfully categorize

722
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: Fluffy as not being a finisher when we previewed this fight,

723
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: because that was the feeling we got when that performance

724
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: against Brendan Allen in the rematch where he won. He

725
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: pulled it off, but we felt like maybe there was

726
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: something lacking of an extra gear. We found out he

727
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: was really ill, and then some people pointed out to me,

728
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: actually look at his finishing statistics, which makes me not

729
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: want to compare him to Morob Right now, if Fluffy

730
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: Hernandez as a pro has fifteen victories, twelve have been

731
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: by stopage, So Luke, I need to take that back.

732
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: The man is an active finisher. He just doesn't do

733
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: it with a big knockout punch or with a well

734
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: timed early submission. He beats you into submission ultimately, is

735
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: where I'm going, because there was a lot of playing

736
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: with your food here, even though I did like the

737
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 2: analysis from Dominic Cruz about why there were times he

738
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: wasn't putting in the hooks, why there were times he

739
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: was just purposely gassing Roman out and just almost embarrassing him. Dude,

740
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: this was just so there was so much like oomph

741
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: behind it, so much like mean spiritedness, and again not

742
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 2: from a taunting standpoint, just from I'm gonna show you

743
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: that you don't belong in here next to me. I mean,

744
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: look at best Roman Dealedze, who was ranked number nine

745
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: coming in was sort of a dark horse title contender.

746
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: Right three fight wins straight, but he is further in age.

747
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: But dude, that guy's durable as shit. And it wasn't

748
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: just gassing out. He was getting hurt regularly, cut below

749
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: both eyes. And look, you said something about his range

750
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: management in the one two's. I thought that right hand

751
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: was fairly consistently a big part of how he would

752
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: slightly hurt the leeds a and open up rooms for easy, easy,

753
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: easy takedowns one after another.

754
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: No, let let me, let me let me debate that

755
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: a little bit with you. So the answer to that

756
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: is yes, I think your observation is correct, because there

757
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 1: was a relentless, a relentlessness with it where at times

758
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: it would graze or to bare minimum it would force

759
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: a kind of reaction that he could then build offense

760
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: off of right so he's slipping or it's punching, or

761
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: he's doing it was in some way disruptive. I mean, dude,

762
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: even just getting a person to move off their base

763
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: can be disruptive. So yes, but the amount of times

764
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: that flat missed or you know, he was trying to

765
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: land it and he got a little close, but not

766
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: like it's the volume of times that he missed that

767
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: was a little frustrating for me. So I think there's

768
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: a you know, there's a any time a guy is

769
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: making a volume play, they're inherently telling you they're not

770
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: trying to be accurate with everything, right. So it's not

771
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: even like you can say that this is some like

772
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: terrible part of his game. It's just that My point is,

773
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: we see, if he could tighten that up a little bit,

774
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: he wouldn't even have to have as much volume that

775
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: he does. Does that make sense? Like he can see, dude,

776
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: he got the job done. I mean, I mean he

777
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: got the job done. Well, I'm saying he might have

778
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: been able to stop that even sooner. If he could

779
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: have tightened up a few of those right hands.

780
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: He could have stopped. And if he went for the

781
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: sub and like the second or third round, if he

782
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: actually aggressively went after it, didn't it feel like you

783
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: could have gotten it?

784
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: Yes, And also there's a question about like, you know,

785
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: should the Leeds they have come out for round four?

786
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: Or should Eric nixicck have let him come out because

787
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: that shoulder?

788
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: And I know, I'm obviously I love Eric Nixon, and

789
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, here trying to second guess the

790
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: coach and say that I know better, But I'm asking

791
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: a question. Yeah, because here's what happens. A lot of

792
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: times fighter coaches will let it go during a fight

793
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: and then I'll talk to them later and they'll be like,

794
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I shouldn't have done that. So

795
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: you want to give these guys, you know, on one level,

796
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: you want to be like, hey, did you make the

797
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: right decision? If you didn't, there's a level of criticism

798
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: I think that is owed. On the other hand, I

799
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: do believe in a little bit of grace because a

800
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: lot of times it occurs to them after the fact

801
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: and that then informs their judgment for the next time out.

802
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: So you know, something to keep in mind.

803
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: Let's see a tweet from Henry Shudo that was a

804
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: similar thought I had and a lot of others where

805
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: Shuda said Anthony Hernandez looked like a future UFC champions tonight,

806
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: and I don't think that's too aggressive to say, because

807
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: the lead day was sort of you know, in the outside,

808
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 2: but in that title picture largely. Now, maybe the problem

809
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: here is that Hernandez was ranked ten coming in, so

810
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: to make that leap all the way to the title

811
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: in a very crowded division is somewhat tough to do.

812
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: I do think we have to wait for what happens

813
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: with Kyle versus Nascardine to see who maybe could make

814
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: that leap. I did here, of course, Fluffy saying, look,

815
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: I just want to fight for a title of some form,

816
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: whether that means the winner of the three nineteen fight

817
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: next this Saturday, or he even brought up a BMF

818
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: idea against RDR, which I don't necessarily need, by the way,

819
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: but I do need to him to get a big

820
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: fight off of this. First, let's hear from Fluff Hernandez

821
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: talking about why he had a big scare. He came

822
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: in a half pound over that limit there of one

823
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty six pounds for a non title beout

824
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: had to come back to the scale a second time,

825
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: here's Fluffy talking about it.

826
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 6: I guess I just got to fucking pay more attention

827
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 6: to be honest, you know what I mean.

828
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

829
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 6: I didn't even know who the fuck was on the card, So, like,

830
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 6: I really don't pay attention.

831
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: Like I have a great team.

832
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 6: I show up to the airport, they're there, and I

833
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 6: just follow them, and the res kind of works itself out. Like, Bro,

834
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 6: I really don't pay attention. I'm usually like a highest shit.

835
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 6: So you know, I just I like violence, Bro, the

836
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 6: only thing I'm good at.

837
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 5: So I guess we know how you're celebrating tonight.

838
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 6: Oh for sure, I'm fucking token big yeah, fuck yeah,

839
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 6: got like four joints rolled already.

840
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: Dude, hashtack relatable, and even DC said to him in

841
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: the interview, you're now my favorite fighter. Like I think

842
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: a lot of us felt like that, right.

843
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we bring back room service diaries BC, we

844
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: have to get high as shit with Anthony Hernandez.

845
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we also need to go to want Archiletta's family's

846
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: weed farm up in the hills in California one day.

847
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: Can we do that?

848
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? By the way, I have somewhat breaking news. I'm

849
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: sorry to bring us up, you see, but it's just

850
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: a crazy day. If I may please, just a just

851
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: a quick note. I'm sorry, just a quick note, but

852
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: it just got announced ESPN and Fox are going to

853
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: now launch a combined streaming bundle starting October second. So

854
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: the dominoes are falling in a bunch of different directions.

855
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: And now I don't know what the name of this

856
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: thing is gonna be, but yeah, the ESPN and Fox

857
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: are going to be getting together to bring you one

858
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: streaming service, obviously for sports.

859
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: Right, So think that's the same product that you or

860
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 4: ESPN was teasing the other day, their new like WWE

861
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: twenty dollars a month product.

862
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good question.

863
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 5: I don't know.

864
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: I don't know yet.

865
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: Uh, further talk here about this title picture and what

866
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: he could get. We have some more sound from Fluffy.

867
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna throw that in to a second. But Luke,

868
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: if it was our dr next, I don't think we'd

869
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: be upset even though he won eight in a row.

870
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: What about this sneaky thing that people are throwing out there.

871
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: Give Fluffy a big man event against Israel out of

872
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: Sonia with a crowd. What do you think about that?

873
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: Say that again, if Fluffy couldn't get the title, and

874
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: if you didn't want to do our dr Next, what

875
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: do you think about an idea to raise his you know,

876
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: brand more fight somebody like who's coming down like in

877
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: out of Sonia in a big you know, big fight

878
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: night card or something.

879
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: This is the fight. This is I mean, this is

880
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: the way the fight game works. You feed the I

881
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: mean obviously he's not old in that sense, but you

882
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: feed the elderly to the young. So sure, give him.

883
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: I think clearly he has to have someone inside the

884
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: top five, right, I mean I think we're all in

885
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: agreement with that. And that leaves you with somebody with

886
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 1: a name. Now, BC, could they feed him Whittaker? Would

887
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: you be okay with Whittaker?

888
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: No, because Whittaker's lost a bunch in a road to

889
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: be not consecutively, but a bunch in a row to

890
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: big name guys. I'd rather well, so is Izzy too?

891
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, dude, this is where it is.

892
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the end of your This is why guys

893
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: like Habib and GSP they called it quits at a

894
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: very you know, oh it was so early for them. Yeah,

895
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: but like look what was father?

896
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: That was father's wish?

897
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, but GSP, you know, basically called it

898
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: quits when he could barely beat Johnny Hendrix arguably didn't

899
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: and then you know, took a four year five year

900
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: highest however long it was. I'm just trying to point out, like,

901
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: if you fight late enough, this is what awaits you.

902
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: Is the Anthony Hernandez is just coming downhill on you.

903
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: You know, this is this is where we are.

904
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's say Nasardine imov when or let's say

905
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: either when Kyo or Nastardine gets a big win there,

906
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: Like already R Fluffy would be great. Also, like if

907
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: that's the worst case scenario for Fluffy already R versus

908
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: Fluffy would be a hell of an interesting test.

909
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that would be amazing because the jiu

910
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: jitsu between them would be ridiculous. That'd be a lot

911
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: of fun. But you know, you haven't asked me about this,

912
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: and I was hoping that you will, but we got

913
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: to bring it.

914
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: Up, all right, boxers or briefs Luke.

915
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm free ball at naughties and I'm wearing boxers,

916
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: just letting my ball sag. Why didn't Deledse go to

917
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: the body, a known weakness of Anthony Hernandez. Why didn't

918
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: they go there. I've seen some criticism of Delidze as

919
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: well as some of the corn that happened in that fight,

920
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: and I have.

921
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: To overwhelm he was overwhelmed off.

922
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: Okay, but like if you want to resist the dude,

923
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: the guy has known It's a little bit like Seroni

924
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: in that regard, like you know, tough out, like you know,

925
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: obviously he's gonna beat good guys. And again I want

926
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: to be clear, like Hernandez was favored to win, like

927
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: the oddsmakers thought he was going to get it done.

928
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm simply saying, like you didn't go to the most

929
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: obvious kind of known weakness. Real big question about Delidze's

930
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: game plan. I think for me for this one.

931
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you on there. Sometimes I think,

932
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: though you are who you are at your core when

933
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: you're in it, and he was in it right off

934
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: the top right, so sometimes you're you're essentially just fighting

935
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: for survival. And I'll give him credit. He bit down

936
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: and tried to brawl with it with Fluffy like he

937
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: tried his best to find some ways to get him

938
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: off of him. But I think once at the end

939
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: of that second round, it was clear that the gas

940
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: tank was going to be gone soon. I mean, you're

941
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: in full survival mode at that point, You're trying to

942
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: stay upright, and he's just getting tossed to the ground.

943
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Roman believe he needs to

944
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: walk away, even though he's thirty seven. And they were

945
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: polite afterwards. Roman came up and congratulated and hugged him.

946
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: But I've never felt more like, I've never seen a

947
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 2: one side he had finished, like I mean maybe Anderson's

948
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: Silver Forest Griffin where it's just like, oh my god,

949
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: that guy should maybe never fight again because it was

950
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: like so overwhelmingly conclusive on every level. I mean, it's

951
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: it's rough, dude, it was rough what Fluffy put him through.

952
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: Let's hear Hernandez talk about where he thinks he fits

953
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: in in this title picture.

954
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 7: And rear naked choke is what it goes down in

955
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 7: the books. But that was like statement there too, Right,

956
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 7: there's real naked chokes and there's just dragging another human

957
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 7: being across the cage by their neck. I mean, what's

958
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 7: going through your head in the moment, and were you

959
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 7: like I'm I'm gonna try to make this as violent

960
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 7: as possible.

961
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: Rather than just sitting squeeze.

962
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 6: I almost lost my cool.

963
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.

964
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 6: I just I was pissed off and sawid neck and

965
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 6: I was just like, fuck you. But at the end

966
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 6: of the day, I hats out to Roman. He's a

967
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 6: tough motherfucker. I got nothing but respect for the guy.

968
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 6: He's fucking super awesome, was super nice all media day.

969
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, I just like, I.

970
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 6: Don't know when I get hit and ship, when I

971
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 6: start fighting, I get fucking I lose it and I

972
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 6: get mad and I want to kill you. But it's like,

973
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 6: it's nothing personal to you.

974
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: It's just fuck you for hitting me.

975
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 6: You know.

976
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: Last thing for me?

977
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 7: I mean, do you book a plane ticket a Chicago

978
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 7: for next week?

979
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: And it goes That's.

980
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: What I'm hearing.

981
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 6: I'm flying to Chicago.

982
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, it.

983
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 8: Seems like the number one contenter fight in Paris. There's you,

984
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 8: there's RDR. If you do have to fight again, is

985
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 8: there what a fight with? Like Sean Strickland.

986
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 6: I really like when I say I don't give a

987
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 6: fuck who I fight. Yes, I'm serious about that shit.

988
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck who I fight. I think

989
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 6: it'd be cool if there was like a contender BMF

990
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 6: belt or like something like that, But I want the title.

991
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 6: That's like, that's the only reason I do this shit

992
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 6: for is to get that money and change my family's life.

993
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 5: You're going to Chicago?

994
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: Is that something UFC said to you or is that

995
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 4: something your team is planned?

996
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 9: No?

997
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 6: I just was told that in the back right now.

998
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 6: They're gonna fly me out, So I'll be looking forward

999
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 6: to that.

1000
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, so wait, do you find out to be

1001
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 2: the backup or just to be there to like face

1002
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 2: off against the winner?

1003
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: Like what he didn't say, but either I think probably

1004
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: insurance too. They need someone to promote, you know, could

1005
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if he he barely made way for

1006
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: this one. I don't know if he can make weight again,

1007
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: but it seems like he could have some promotional muscle

1008
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: to add to the whole intrigue of what's already the

1009
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: best fight on the fucking calendar. So yeah, strictly you

1010
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: believe how great middleweight is right now, this is strictly

1011
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: he just as interesting an option, even though it seems

1012
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: like strickly he's trying to get.

1013
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: A long term hums out fight going. But he has

1014
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: lost two of his last three both to DDP. The

1015
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: only thing I'll say is like he's never had more

1016
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: leverage or brand power than he has right now. I

1017
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: hate when people say I'll fight whoever. I like that

1018
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: he hedged it with I want to fight for the title.

1019
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: I need to fight for the title. Dude, stand on business.

1020
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: You did the discount, double check, tell him you're the

1021
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: man for the title. Next, say to people, I'm going

1022
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: out there to Chicago to get in the face of

1023
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: the winner. Like that's the spirit I want to see

1024
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: luke out of him.

1025
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I fully agree with that.

1026
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: You know, he's not if there's something to be said

1027
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: for Fluffy that I think is holding him back a

1028
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: little bit. And it's not a it's not a personal attack.

1029
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying his personality sucks. I'm saying he's not

1030
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: a natural self marketer, right, I think it's pretty fair

1031
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: to say. And then, obviously, being a very good self

1032
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: marketer pays enormous dividends in this sport, so he has

1033
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: to earn it the hard way. But he's earning it

1034
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: the hard way. He seems quite likable, and you know,

1035
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: if you just like fun, exciting, entrance into a division,

1036
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: who are you know, seemingly near the peak of their powers.

1037
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: I present to you Fluffy Hernandez as an exhibit and

1038
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: easy to like kind of fighters.

1039
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: I'm with you becoming one of my favorite fighters overnight instantly,

1040
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: Like I'm glad I was wrong at his what his

1041
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: ceiling is, I'm glad he showed us coming off a

1042
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: fight he was sick who he really is. Also, people

1043
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: laughed at me last year when I said middleweight was

1044
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: potentially the sexiest division because you had a title picture

1045
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: with a lot of new guys and then a lot

1046
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: of big names like Whitaker and out of Sonia. I'm

1047
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: glad that it still is. I think Walter Waite's a

1048
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: little more interesting in a little deeper but middleweight is

1049
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: fun as shit, and we're going to see that this Saturday,

1050
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: of course, at UFC three nineteen with DDP versus Hamzad. Now,

1051
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: speaking of UFC three nineteen, this Saturday, Hey, now's a

1052
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: good time to remember the story where Tequila's story truly began.

1053
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,040
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1054
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,840
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1055
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1057
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,959
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1058
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1059
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1060
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,560
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1061
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,279
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1062
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,040
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1064
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,160
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1065
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: from getting that devil's reserve going, if you know what

1066
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

1067
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, with the one and only Matt Fravola. By

1068
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Speaker 2: Yeah earlier, yes, yes, I did.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, that's no problem, Luke.

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Speaker 2: It's a busy day. Okay, you're excited guy, you just

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Speaker 2: got back from the beach.

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Speaker 1: Boy, I'm trying to see all this breaking news from

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Speaker 1: Mark Shapiro that's coming down from CNBC.

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00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, I heard a snippet of him and

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00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: Arian CNBC where they where. They kind of made it

1077
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 2: sound like there would be a lot of UFC cards, uh,

1078
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: simul cast it on CBS.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what he is saying, well, he did. Okay,

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00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: one thing I didn't even mention here is that one

1081
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: thing he's saying is he said he didn't say it

1082
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: was definite, but he did say it was likely that

1083
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: all the numbered events, so you know, UFC three zero,

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00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: whatever will air on CBS.

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00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: Wow. So so does that mean like like early prelims

1086
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: and pre limbs and then we.

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00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: Go who knows? Who knows?

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00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, you're if you're David Ellison now of

1089
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: Paramount and you want to make a big move and

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00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: a big splash with this, which they did put that

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00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 2: on big CBS. Let's go. I mean, there's you know.

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Speaker 1: This is the same issue that they run into when

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00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: they were on Fox, and it's something they run into

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00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: when they're in ABC, which is with some exception. Now,

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00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: of course there's exception. If you're on Fox Sports one,

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00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: they can just move whatever's off there for UFC if

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Speaker 1: they wanted to, Right, there's almost nothing that airs on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports one except like maybe they have a contractual

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Speaker 1: obligation for like a baseball game, but you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not so crowded that they can't move it around. Whereas BC.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask a question, what is CBS's slate of

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00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: college football and NFL playoff games?

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00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: Pretty aggressive? Pretty aggressive, right, the big ten deal. They

1104
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: obviously have been in business with the NFL showing you

1105
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: AFC games for you know, many decades.

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00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is what I mean, as big as

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00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: the UFC is and it's big there, gonna have a

1108
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: tough time competing with the NFL playoffs or big time

1109
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: college football dode, big time college football becee. What does

1110
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: that do? Like fifteen eighteen million viewers.

1111
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: Oh, it's big, it's really big. But so I mean, look,

1112
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Speaker 2: they might pick their battles during that part of the season, right,

1113
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: but like let's see what they do on the on

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Speaker 2: the total.

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Speaker 1: And also some stuff just materializes, like they can't move

1116
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: all big fights off of football season, which by the way,

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00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: goes from freaking August until basically the first week or

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00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: second week of February. You know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: it's a long time how they play that it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting obviously, paramountlus Can, how's everything? No problem? But

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Speaker 1: if you've got one CBS, you gotta be real deliberate

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00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: about what goes on there. That part could get But

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Speaker 1: b see, remember this first time they aired on Fox,

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Speaker 1: they had a full card, They showed one fight on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Could we get to a place where during football season

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00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: they just show the main and comine on CBS? Could

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00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: that happen?

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Speaker 2: Could be wild? Because that time would be after your

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00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: local news, right or you know, right around that time

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00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: and exactly and if Cole Beart's not there anymore, right.

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00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he's weak days. And also like his

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00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: show was bad? You know what I mean? Can we

1133
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: say that a loud? His show was bad?

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00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: Who gets all?

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00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: Right?

1136
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: There we go? There we go. Hey, let's get into

1137
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: topic number two, which was the co main event on

1138
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: Saturday's UFC Fight Night card from the Apex, A banhamweight

1139
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: last minute about between two flyweights and Steve Ersk, former

1140
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: title challenger who's gone from three straight wins in the

1141
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: UFC to get a title shot to three straight defeats.

1142
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: Nearly made it for as he was a big betting

1143
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: favorite against Oday Osborne, and he would go on to

1144
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: score a three round unanimous decision on twenty nine to

1145
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: twenty eight eight sorry, twenty nine to twenty eight score

1146
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 2: cards across the board. But as I tease, the fight

1147
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: nearly got out of hand several times, including when Osborne

1148
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: dropped him with a beautiful straight right hand. Luke, there's

1149
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: almost more questions than there were about Ersac coming in

1150
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 2: even though he scored a much much needed win. Should

1151
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: this lackluster performance be viewed as Erseg dealing with the

1152
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 2: nerves that come with three straight losses and the potential

1153
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: of four, which, for all we know, could lead to unemployment,

1154
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: or are there still bigger issues in Erseg's development and

1155
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 2: overall skill level as an elite flyway.

1156
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the central question after watching that fight.

1157
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: All right, he got the job. How did you score

1158
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: it eight for him?

1159
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: Yes? But I feel I felt like there was an

1160
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: argument on that second round, like it could have gone

1161
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: two to one. Third round, definitely a third.

1162
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was he was in mount basically the whole time.

1163
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean it was the one time he got up

1164
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: and they put him back down. Uh long Island, Luke,

1165
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: How did you score. How did you score the comin?

1166
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 5: I had it to to one, but I didn't think

1167
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 5: he looked good throughout it.

1168
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: You did not not well? In round three he looked

1169
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: pretty good.

1170
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 4: I just like from going from losing the last round

1171
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: against Pantosia to here, I feel like there's a big.

1172
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: Gap of right, Okay, So that's where I'm at. So

1173
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: I by the way, if if Osborne had one winning

1174
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: round one obviously and then maybe round two, I would

1175
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: not have complained. In fact, I thought, erseeg, I'm not

1176
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna say he got LUCKYBC, but you know, the wind

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00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: kind of blew a little bit in his direction such

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00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: that he was able to get it done. So I'm

1179
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: glad he was able to like stop the bleeding. And

1180
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: I just don't think you can look at this end

1181
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: divorce the two. I mean, he even admitted, I think

1182
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: we have audio to this effect and we'll play it here.

1183
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure in a minute, Which is he was feeling

1184
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: the heat on this one in terms of all the

1185
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: losses that he had. Nevertheless, this guy pushed Pantoja to

1186
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: the point where I'm gonna say it one more time

1187
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 1: if he doesn't go for a takedown in the fifth.

1188
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: He's probably the next UFC flyweight champion, and he was

1189
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: struggling with ode Osbourne. He was getting cracked obviously a

1190
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: bunch in the first and even in the second round

1191
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: he had a hard time closing distance and setting up

1192
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: his strikes. What saved him in the end was basically

1193
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: the ground game. That was what he was able to do.

1194
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: And obviously he really took over in the third, so

1195
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: he was able to win, and he was able to

1196
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: win by being more well rounded. But he does not

1197
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 1: look like a better fighter than the guy who beat

1198
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: Matt Schnell. He does not look like a better fighter

1199
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: than the guy who faced off against Pantojia. He doesn't

1200
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: look like a better fighter than the one who fought

1201
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: against Frankly Brandon Moreno, for crying out loud, he looked

1202
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: like until we see a few more fights, I cannot

1203
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: fully declare what's happening here in terms of regression versus

1204
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: just the jitters of the moment. But what I'm going

1205
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: to say is he's got a lot of climbing to

1206
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: do to remove himself from consideration that he's regressed. Like

1207
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: it's so far back that you know several fights are

1208
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: going to be necessary to even get back to where

1209
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: he was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. Confidence seems shot. Let's

1211
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 2: hear er Seg talking about the struggles mentally that came

1212
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: with the idea of that losing streak. And I mean,

1213
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: Martin Boudet just got got when he's seven and one,

1214
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: so you never know if he was going to come back.

1215
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: All those shout out to Boudet getting the octagon him

1216
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: and made deal.

1217
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 8: Here's their sec How much pressure did you have on

1218
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 8: yourself coming in this fight?

1219
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Hey, so obviously you like doused on through your head, like,

1221
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 9: uh would I for a little along? Do I really

1222
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 9: belong to like deserve to be here?

1223
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: That nonsense.

1224
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 9: So it's good to off had a tough guy in

1225
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 9: the USA been here if you have for ages and

1226
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 9: get a tough win.

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Speaker 8: When the judges read the scorecards, were you confident that

1228
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 8: you won the fight?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I thought I did enough.

1231
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Speaker 9: I mean, you never really know, but I thought I

1232
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 9: had he back in the second, I had he back

1233
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Speaker 9: in the third, So I thought I did enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tough break for this guy right there, Luke, because

1235
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 2: he did what he had to do in round three

1236
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: with almost desperate wrestling to constantly pull Osborne back down

1237
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: and keep him there. Really, my biggest question is did

1238
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: Osborne fly home or take a train?

1239
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Speaker 1: I like how the news is so big that you're

1240
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: distracted quite visibly on your phone.

1241
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild.

1242
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yet you still have time to make a

1243
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: Osborne joke.

1244
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Speaker 2: Yeah, seamlessly, seamlessly. Do you feel like he ever gets

1245
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: back to a big fight, Luke, I mean, what.

1246
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Speaker 1: Do you it's it's it's just too early to tell.

1247
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: I mean that again. He he didn't die in the

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Speaker 1: Sarlac Pit BC, but I don't know if he's going

1249
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Speaker 1: to make it to Jedi. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: He extricated himself from the worst case scenario. We can

1251
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: say that that's it he did.

1252
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Speaker 2: He did indeed right there. So Ersek survives in advance,

1253
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: we'll see what his future, what his future looks like

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01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: here in the flyweight division. But UFC three nineteen is

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Speaker 1: six bonus picks that expired fourteen days on August twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: this year, twenty twenty five, at eleven fifty nine pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern Time terms at pick six dot DraftKings dot com

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Speaker 1: slash promos.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Luke Thomas for your efforts. Topic

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Speaker 2: number three is going to take us to the rest

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Speaker 2: of what we saw at UFCAPEX one oh nine or

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. There By the way,

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Speaker 2: did Hunter Campbell just say publicly that they're looking to

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Speaker 2: expand the apex to five maybe ten thousand seats. That

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Speaker 2: would be a big upgrade. But we're talking right now

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Speaker 2: about this undercard, Luke, I want to pick off the

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Speaker 2: menu and go down to the prelimbs. Did you see

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Speaker 2: what Jocelyn Edwards did to Priscilla Catchiwera. We do not

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Speaker 2: get Ko's this nasty in the women's game. I'd love

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Speaker 2: to show you the highlights, but they would certainly take

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01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: us down for that. Basically, a three punch combination that

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Speaker 2: might legit be in the KO of the Year category.

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01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: And when you add in Joscelyn Edwards, somebody we don't

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Speaker 2: talk about a lot on this show. That's three straight wins,

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01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: all three by stoppage for the women's bandam weight. Is

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01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: this potentially like some life injected into one of the

1304
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: worst divisions in the sport?

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01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question. I mean, dude, When she started

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01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: out in the UFC, first of all, she had one

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01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: fight in LFA which she lost, and then she makes

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01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: it to the UFC with a nine to two record.

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01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: She beat Wu Yanan, who I don't know if they've

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Speaker 1: she's fought since. Then she loses to Carol Hosa and

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01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: then Jessica Rose Clark pretty convincingly. She gets a few

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01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: wins along the way and then loses again to a

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Speaker 1: bunch of fighters, including Eileen Petes. But the last two

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Speaker 1: of these BC the last one obviously against Priscilla CATCHWAA

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Speaker 1: this past Saturday, then Chelsea Handler before that, two back

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01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: to back first round stoppages.

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Speaker 2: Chelsea Chandler, Luke, it's not you know, I mean what

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Speaker 2: Chelsea Handler, Oh, Chelsea Chandler, I mean that was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: I apologize Chelsea Chandler. Uh either way, The point I'm

1321
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: trying to make is she got two back to back

1322
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: first round stopages. Yes, but it's the what you indicated me.

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Speaker 1: See that three punch combination here on catch where her

1324
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: hands have gotten visibly better. She's twenty nine years of

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01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: age now, Edwards is, and it just looks like the

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01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: parts of her game that needed maturation, and there was

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01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: a lot of them, they're getting it. Like she's starting

1328
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: to know how to like sit down on her punches.

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01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 1: Look at the result as a consequence, There's just much

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Speaker 1: more forcefulness to it. There's much more accuracy to it.

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Speaker 1: There's much more shot uh thoughtful I should say, shot

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Speaker 1: selection behind it. She did not start out in any

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01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: way an impressive figure in this division, and you know,

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Speaker 1: still a ways to go BC, But the way she's

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01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: looked more recently, it just seems like, you know, everyone

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01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: kind of you know, hits their stride at a different

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01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: point in their career. Some are you know, shot out

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Speaker 1: of a cannon and they're good from day one, but

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Speaker 1: guys you like, were not necessarily like that, you know, Max,

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01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: Max hollow excuse me, did not start out necessarily as

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Speaker 1: a as a terminator, but he just eventually became one.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Edwards is going to do that BC,

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Speaker 1: but she is definitely rounding a corner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a big way. Shout out to Joscelyn Edwards

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Speaker 2: on that breakthrough Elsewhere Luke. Elijah Smith slam ko of

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01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: Toshiomi Kazama brought back memories of old school MMA. If

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Speaker 2: Joscelyn Edwards belongs in the KO of the Year discussion

1348
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: for that three punch in a side of disrespect, where

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Speaker 2: does this slam ko from Elijah Smith fit in?

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely one of the best KOs of the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question about it. But let me

1352
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: ask a question that people have been pitching to me

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: that I, I don't know, hadn't fully thought about much, which is,

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01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: how much do you think KO slams like this should

1355
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Speaker 1: be illegal? Because because you can't punch the back of

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01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: the head, but I can lift you up and then

1357
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: slam you to the mat and it's the same area

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Speaker 1: being affected, why would that be tolerable?

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Speaker 2: I mean I felt the same way when Jessica Androge

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Speaker 2: did that to Rose where it was like damn, that

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Speaker 2: could have been like career ending.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I tend to think

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Speaker 1: that like MMA is sort of diminished when you get

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Speaker 1: rid of creativity like this, But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: you know it rules to see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't it instantly feel like nineteen or

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01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: two thousand and two Pride or you know what I mean,

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01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: Like it instantly brings you back to a different era

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01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: when you see that, it's so rare that it happens.

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Speaker 1: It's again. MMA is built on oh shit moments, Right,

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Speaker 1: That's what it's built on, and that is clearly an

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Speaker 1: O shit moment. So if that doesn't win KO of

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Speaker 1: the Year, it better be a very good one that does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Let's hear from Elliot Smith talking about

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Speaker 2: his slam where he let the boys be boys.

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Speaker 11: I could feel like with every shot he was like breaking, breaking,

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01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 11: and that's when he threw up the triangle and the

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Speaker 11: rest is history. I'm gonna be honest, I didn't believe

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01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 11: he could get me in a triangle. So I'll give

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Speaker 11: him again. I'll give him his flowers for attempting and

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01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 11: getting close to it. I promise the next time, I won't.

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Speaker 11: I won't even get close to that. But you know,

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Speaker 11: I just been being in jiu jitsu tournaments where I've

1384
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 11: been I have video of me like when I was younger,

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01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 11: and where guys got a triangle and I lifted them

1386
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 11: up in the same way. And always my dad always

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Speaker 11: told me. I remember one time he was like, if

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Speaker 11: this was a fight, man, you could have definitely slammed

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Speaker 11: the you know, you know, sugar honey ice tea out

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Speaker 11: of him. And this time I finally had the opportunity

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Speaker 11: to do it. I can't do it against training partners.

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Speaker 11: I love my guys, but you know, when it's somebody

1393
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 11: random that you don't know and it's for you know,

1394
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 11: everything is on the line.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're.

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Speaker 11: About to get slammed. You about to get slammed on

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01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 11: your done piece. This was definitely, in my opinion, this

1398
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 11: was the statement that I needed to prove to myself

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01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 11: that Elijah, you can go out there and you could

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01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 11: go get it finished. You could go get that highlight out,

1401
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 11: you know, go viral, and you can do that.

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01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: You're more than capable.

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01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 11: But when the time when the lights shine, just do it, man,

1404
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 11: Just be you be Elijah swift Smith be somebody who

1405
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 11: you've always been in your whole fight career, and yeah,

1406
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 11: it's just so crazy how it all played out.

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Speaker 2: That's Elijah Smith, shout out to me, calling him Elliott

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01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,440
Speaker 2: Elliot Smith. Yeah, songwriter who stabbed himself in the heart unfortunately,

1409
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: but Elijah Smith. Pretty funny, Luke in that interview, I

1410
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: want to I want to see and hear more from

1411
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: this guy.

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01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, he seems like a lot of fun.

1413
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: Great talk to me about touchy feely here. He he

1414
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: always win lost, win loss for about a ten fight streak,

1415
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: scores a close split decision over Christian Rodriguez. But he

1416
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: wasn't into that Holloway bit bit with pointing at the ground.

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Speaker 1: Luke, well play the audio first, if we have it.

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Speaker 10: We had like ten to twenty seconds left, and he

1419
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 10: looked at the clock and then looked at me and

1420
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 10: pointed down like the Holloway point, and I said, no,

1421
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 10: fuck you, and I've stuck in and I kept sticking

1422
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 10: and moving. That's that's what happened. I'm not doing that.

1423
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 10: Like I said, diapers are expensive, groceries are expensive. I've

1424
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 10: had lots of fights where I could prove that I'm tough.

1425
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 10: I think that fight was exciting. I hope it was

1426
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 10: an exciting fight. But I don't need to I don't

1427
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 10: need to stand there and go, Okay, point at the ground,

1428
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 10: let's go. First of all, no one does it right.

1429
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 10: Max is the only person that does it right where

1430
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 10: you plant your feet and you swing. And I'm not

1431
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 10: saying I'll never do that, but I'll probably never do

1432
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 10: that if I ever fought Max Hollowy again, which I'm

1433
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 10: not gunning for that. I love Max and I really

1434
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 10: have a lot of love for him. But if I

1435
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 10: ever fought Max Holloway again and he pointed the ground,

1436
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 10: I would say the same thing I said tonight, No

1437
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 10: fuck off, leave me alone, and I get back to

1438
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 10: stick in a movement.

1439
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 4: So you're one of those that would agree with the

1440
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 4: assessment Dustin gave after he after they asked him about

1441
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 4: the final ten seconds with his fight, nog Have.

1442
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 10: You seen how that's worked out for a lot of people.

1443
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 10: I'm cool, like we could gamble later after the fight, Bro,

1444
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 10: I'm not here to gamble. I'm here to be I'm

1445
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 10: here to be sharp. I'm here to be a world

1446
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 10: class fighter, and I'm here to collect two to three checks,

1447
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 10: and I'm here to make my p people proud. I'm

1448
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 10: not here to plant my feet and throw unless that's

1449
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 10: part of the game plan. More power to people. I'm

1450
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 10: actually pretty honestly, I got the mics. You guys got

1451
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 10: to listen to me right now. I'm pretty fucking sick

1452
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 10: of people doing the point and the dog. If you're

1453
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 10: going to point the ground and you're gonna say let's

1454
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 10: go for the last ten seconds and you're going to

1455
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 10: try to do it Holloway does. No one else can

1456
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 10: do it. It's only he's the only one that does

1457
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 10: it right. You got to plant your feet and throw.

1458
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 10: It's not plant your feet, throw twice and shoot, or

1459
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 10: plant your feet and clinch. It's plant your feet and throw.

1460
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 10: And if I ever do it, I'll do it right.

1461
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 2: I mean that's fair. It is getting old, right.

1462
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: I actually fully agree with him, do you know what

1463
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I get that people want to adopt

1464
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: it because, oh, Max did an awesome thing. I want

1465
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: to participate in an awesome thing. It's like, I don't

1466
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: think people realize how special Max is, you know what

1467
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, you know, even very good fighters don't

1468
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: benefit from that.

1469
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,520
Speaker 2: He is a unique.

1470
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: It comes from him having a unique makeup and frankly

1471
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: like not identity but composition about who he is. And

1472
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: you can't just take that and be like, oh, I'll

1473
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: do the same thing. It doesn't work that way. So

1474
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: I did think that the scoring was a little bit

1475
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: weird in this one, right, because you had twenty nine,

1476
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty eight, twenty nine and then thirty twenty seven.

1477
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 2: Long.

1478
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: I know, Luke, how did you score this one?

1479
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 5: I had a thirty twenty seven?

1480
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: Peely.

1481
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 4: I think the judge who scored it for Sea Rod

1482
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know how.

1483
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: You I agree. I agree. I thought I had a

1484
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: twenty nine twenty eight. I thought that was a pretty

1485
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: fair score, dude. Sea Rod is weird, right because he'll

1486
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: beat anybody who's an undefeated prospect, and then they match

1487
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: him up with like a veteran guy and he's just

1488
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: kind of left wanting as a consequence, and you know,

1489
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: it tells you like there was Emma on Pointed a

1490
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: video a long time ago where they were saying like,

1491
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, the sport's getting older and like older guys

1492
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: are doing better later now, and it feels like Sea

1493
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: Rod is kind of like a victim of that. Like,

1494
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 1: if you're not on the level, he'll find out. But

1495
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: if you are an experienced vet in then you know

1496
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: they're going to be doing some teaching, it seems like,

1497
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a difficult problem for some of

1498
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: these guys.

1499
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you reach Luke, we teach, That's how it works.

1500
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: Talk to me about Christian Leroy Duncan, who damn near

1501
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: sent Eric Anders to hell And now the only losses

1502
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: for Duncan are against Hobo kop and armand Petrosian. Did

1503
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,919
Speaker 2: he give you the feeling considering Anders as a durable,

1504
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: consistent veteran here that he's on his way to viable

1505
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: contendership at one eighty five?

1506
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: You know what, I would not have said that before

1507
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: this fight. I wasn't even sure who he was on

1508
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: the roster. But this was such a nice win. And

1509
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: Eric Anders is a limited fighter, but he's a tough

1510
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: out and he you know, has found relevance over the

1511
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: course of time by grinding out wins. And you know,

1512
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: he's won zom, he's lost some, but you know, kind

1513
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: of being there as a consistent presence, and he got

1514
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: handled in this fight, Like what was the last time

1515
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: what was the last time Eric Anders got handled?

1516
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't football field, I don't know, Luke. Let's see here.

1517
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: I mean he so he was stopped by a spinning

1518
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: back elbow and then the punches that followed up. He

1519
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: got subed by Andre Muanneze in twenty one, but okay,

1520
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: he got stopped by elbows against Maheta in twenty eighteen.

1521
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,799
Speaker 2: But it's a very rare sight.

1522
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying, Like, it's not a common thing

1523
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: for him. And then, by the way, is this is

1524
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: this his only first round striking stoppage?

1525
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: Probably? Yeah, I believe so, right, this is.

1526
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,520
Speaker 1: What I mean, Like, this was such a nice performance

1527
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: that I don't It's the same thing I'm gonna say

1528
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: with Erse, but in a different way, like I didn't

1529
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: know he's got to climb back out. But with this case,

1530
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: I was so impressed by it that I'm like, okay,

1531
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: let's see more. Let's see more. But it's very rare

1532
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: to beat a durable veteran like Honders the way that

1533
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: Duncan did, and that to me signaled something potentially interesting

1534
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: Long Island.

1535
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: Luke, you are a marauder. Marauder of the early cards

1536
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: for UFC on your Main Card Minute podcast. We didn't

1537
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 2: get Red Rocket Ronda on this one, but did we

1538
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: get anything else that moved you?

1539
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 4: I did see Red Rocket Ronda just got booked. I

1540
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 4: can't remember against who, but Earl smeititch, how about that dude?

1541
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 4: He gets dropped about ten seconds into that fight, and

1542
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, this dude's getting finished, and then he

1543
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 4: just sends Gilbert Urbina to hell.

1544
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 5: That was pretty sick. I gotta give a shout out

1545
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 5: to Juicy J. I believe his nickname is Julius Walker.

1546
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 5: Is that his nickname?

1547
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: Or mind is his nickname?

1548
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 5: I knew he had a cool nickname. Sorry, juice Box.

1549
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 4: Julius Walker and Rafael Sekera or half a Secra they

1550
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 4: put on a fun fight.

1551
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 5: It was a slobber knocker light heavyweight fight, but I

1552
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 5: enjoyed it.

1553
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gilbert Orbina looking like those people that who get

1554
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: their being out hit with the machete on as fun

1555
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: as farm, you know what I'm talking about? Maybe not

1556
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: all right? That was the UFCA and look you're done

1557
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 2: with UFCAPEX.

1558
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean, hey, listen, there was some phenomenal

1559
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: KOs on this card. I didn't watch it live. I'm

1560
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: not gonna say, well, I watched the main event live.

1561
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: I did watch the event live, but uh, you know,

1562
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: it was a fine, pretty fun fight night card for

1563
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: what it was.

1564
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: Friend of the program Cody Brundage getting a last minute

1565
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: split decision loss and the curtain jerker unfortunately, but shout

1566
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: out to Eric moconico.

1567
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 5: Mcconicamconico. That was kind of a robbery too.

1568
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 4: Most people thought Brundage won that fight, so I thought, yeah,

1569
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 4: I thought the same.

1570
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: I haven't butchered that name bad badly since Kyo and

1571
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: that time I called him Dick Rico. Remember that guy Luke?

1572
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, media, Yeah, that guy loves the media, all right.

1573
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: Topic number four, Hey, I got to shut out PFL

1574
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 2: because even though I don't like that, they do regional

1575
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: promotions all over the world and there's a tournament for

1576
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 2: everything and belts for everything. When they put on cards,

1577
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: people get brutally finished. PFL Africa from Johannesburg over the

1578
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: weekend took place. The bigger story here is certainly Don

1579
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 2: Davis and Ganawa will get that. Look. I wish we

1580
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 2: could show particularly two of the highlights. Did you see

1581
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: the just the vicious chaos that this card produced.

1582
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: Bro, I could not believe how good they were. That

1583
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: jumping knee where the guy when he did you notice

1584
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: the guy who got ko and jumping knee. One arm

1585
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: went like this and then the other arm went like this.

1586
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: You know how like when Family Guy when people die

1587
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: and fall over, their arms are all twisted like that. Yes,

1588
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: it reminded me of like the characters and Family Guy

1589
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: getting their bodies all twisted. I could not believe how

1590
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: good it was. And there was a question morek kicked.

1591
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: There was a bunch of them. Those two were probably

1592
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: the best. Dude. They've had two events in South Africa

1593
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: in about a month or whatever, the three weeks or

1594
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: something like that, and they were both sellouts and they

1595
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: both produced a ton of great response. This card did

1596
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: not have great names, but it was a home run

1597
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: in my estimation.

1598
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: It really was. And people are starting, okay, what do

1599
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: you make? I forgot the journalist that tweeted it out,

1600
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: but somebody tweeted out that, like, we got to try

1601
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 2: to turn our criticism around a bit, because what is

1602
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: actually happening inside the cage at PFL the smart gauge.

1603
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: Excuse me, this calendar year has been fairly consistently good.

1604
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: Would you say that, Luke, And you think it's fair

1605
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: to say that despite how many times from a peace

1606
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 2: level they've shot themselves in the foot.

1607
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: I think that they're doing in terms of their in

1608
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: cage product. Dude, they're killing it right now. To be

1609
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: perfectly honest with you, like you cannot in good faith

1610
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: look at the results of what has happened, watch the

1611
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: contests and then come to the conclusion that they're you

1612
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: know that this is a failing promotion in that regard.

1613
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: Now you can make a question about like can they

1614
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: succeed long term? I'm not talking about that. I'm saying,

1615
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: are they when they show up on fight night? Are

1616
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: they delivering? I would argue, not just good, mma, but

1617
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: in certain cases certainly would like to go to Ditchevia

1618
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: and whatever and other ones you know relevant Mma. The

1619
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: answer is yes. The answer is yes, Like these events

1620
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 1: are fantastic and they have been fantastic. And then to

1621
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: say nothing but what thad Gene has done. We've talked

1622
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: about it ad nauseum already, Like, dude, they're in cage.

1623
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: This is why, this is why it's so important to

1624
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: me that we say this out loud, right, because if

1625
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: we're going to say that the PFL, you know, they

1626
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: got a new executive coming in, a new CEO coming in.

1627
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: They just hired Jamie Popps, was like head of Latin

1628
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 1: America for UFC. Now he's going to be head of

1629
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: Latin America for PFL. You know, they're bringing in talent.

1630
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,879
Speaker 1: I think bringing in Dan Hardy has been a fucking

1631
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: game changer for them because his sensibility about what works

1632
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: is almost exactly correct every single time. And just look

1633
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: at the product. Now they've simplified it. It's better. They've

1634
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: got better names from you know, not everyone from the

1635
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: belt or takeover, but they got some addition to their

1636
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: roster from that, and it's been phenomenal as a consequence.

1637
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: And so the reason why it's important to say that

1638
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: is not to just give them a pad on the back.

1639
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: It's to say this promotion is making good decisions, right.

1640
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: I mean, they made a lot of bad ones, but

1641
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 1: now they're making good decisions. What fruit does that bear

1642
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: long term?

1643
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: Does that get them? Are they going to be the

1644
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 2: only show in talent in ESPN? Are they going to

1645
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: get a big push now?

1646
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: Exactly? Good question what what does being a number two

1647
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: promo that makes good decisions get you. We're gonna find.

1648
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 2: Out who does number two work for? Right, That's what

1649
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: I wanted. Yeah, show two sold out shows in South

1650
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 2: Africa in less than a month. We know what they've

1651
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: been doing, packing crowds in Europe. I wish they would

1652
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: do a larger better job at simplifying who their true

1653
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 2: core of marketable fighters are and then marketing them aggressively.

1654
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: I like Coachman in the speaking role, so we'll see. However,

1655
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: this PFL Africa card had a little bit of controversy

1656
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: surrounding the fact that Francis and Ghana, who of course

1657
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: was signed as a massive free agent, not just to

1658
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: be a fighter as a heavyweight, although he's only appeared

1659
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: once in the cage since signing that deal after two

1660
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: consecutive big time boxing opportunities. He was also going to

1661
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 2: be a boarded like on the Fighter's board of directors,

1662
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 2: going to be the head of their PFL Africa movements,

1663
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: but he didn't show up to this card, and Don

1664
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: Davis took to Twitter to really express how dis appointed

1665
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: he was with Don with two nds said quote, I'm

1666
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: not going to hide it I expected him, meaning Francis,

1667
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: this is part of his vision so that all those

1668
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: fighters out there don't have to leave the continent like

1669
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: he did. We worked for two years. I'm disappointed, Luke.

1670
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 2: We've said a lot of really good things about Francis

1671
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: and Ghana, who I largely believe is a very good

1672
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 2: soul and in somebody I cheered for to get out

1673
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: of his UFC deal and get what he wanted, which

1674
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: is better treatment, big money in boxing. But I can't

1675
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: act like he's been a boon to PFL. I can't

1676
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: act like he's gone out of his way to help PFL.

1677
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: He didn't even hang around when they wanted him to

1678
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: face off him and for hate of that time ahead

1679
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: of the big fight that they ended up booking right there.

1680
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 2: Do you believe Don has a point? And would you

1681
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: go as far as saying and Ghanu hasn't kept up

1682
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 2: his end of the bargain.

1683
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: I think Don Davis is correct. I think he is

1684
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: well within his rights to say this, and I Francis, Okay, Listen,

1685
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: we don't know what's happening in Francis's life or you know,

1686
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: personal life, where perhaps there were a set of circumstances

1687
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,480
Speaker 1: that just made going to this for whatever reason impossible.

1688
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: But it's not like Francis made a big to do

1689
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: about not being there, like trying to make amends with

1690
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: the organization in some kind of way. He just didn't post,

1691
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's not like he contacted

1692
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: PFL and was like, hey, guys, I'm dealing with something.

1693
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: You know, I'm imagining something, some kind of scenario that

1694
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: he had to attend to that you know, precluded him. Like, dude,

1695
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: the PFL has been patient with him. They they gave

1696
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 1: him everything that he asked for. They let him go box,

1697
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They created this whole subdivision

1698
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: for him, and he doesn't even have the decency to

1699
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: go there. And it turned out that it was a

1700
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: phenomenal event that was actually a pretty big success. That

1701
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: what it will do for PFL Africa long term I

1702
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: don't really know. But you know, on that night, did

1703
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: they do that? Did the event deliver in the way

1704
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: that it was intended to? Absolutely? And it did it

1705
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: absent his participation, Like you know, the guy made a big,

1706
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: big stink about Oh it's not just you know, look him,

1707
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: even if he had said nothing else him leaving UFC

1708
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: to go to PFL to maximize his contractual rights. That

1709
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: alone is a win for fighter advocacy. Right, He didn't

1710
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: need to do the other stuff, but he chose to

1711
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: do the other stuff. He chose to make a big

1712
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: deal about this global board, and he chose to make

1713
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: a big deal about PFL Africa, and he chose to

1714
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: make this a part of his identity. He willingly went

1715
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: through with it, and then they have their launch and

1716
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: the one guy who is central to this, and the

1717
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: point that Don Davis raises is like, so guys don't

1718
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 1: have to leave the continent like he had to. Remember,

1719
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Francis obviously had to go through this incredible journey just

1720
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: to get to a gym where he could become what

1721
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: he ultimately became. You know again, I don't know what

1722
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,799
Speaker 1: the situation is in his personal life, but I'm guessing

1723
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: that Don Davis saying this is evidence of the fact

1724
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: that there wasn't really much necessarily that precluded him from going.

1725
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: He just simply chose not to for you know, again,

1726
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: for whatever personal reasons that may end up being. Yeah, dude,

1727
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: he let PFL down, Like we are very profighter on

1728
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 1: this show, but that doesn't mean we're always going to

1729
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: take their side if a promotion does this kind dude,

1730
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: this deal that he got, what other fighter in MMA

1731
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: history has gotten a deal like this? It is not.

1732
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 2: He's been under contract for like two plus years. He's

1733
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: felt once it didn't enter a tournament. He doesn't show

1734
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: up to other cars to promote like. It's it's weird, man.

1735
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: It's it's they did all of this for him. And listen,

1736
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna make something up here. I'm going

1737
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: to speculate, Okay. My speculation is that he probably had

1738
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: a lot of high hopes for what it meant to

1739
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: go to the PFL when he left UFC, and you know,

1740
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: and maybe like other guys, they'd be able to sign

1741
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: and it hasn't really happened, and you know, he doesn't

1742
01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 1: really believe in the life of this deal anymore. Okay, fine. Nevertheless, man,

1743
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: they gave you a great deal, like they gave you

1744
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 1: a deal unlike any other deal in the history of MMA.

1745
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, seems kind of shitty. He didn't post.

1746
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 1: I think Don Davis has a point here.

1747
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: I don't ask this question because we got shocked this morning.

1748
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: That paramount is now the official right so old they're

1749
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 2: beginning of twenty twenty six in the US for UFC.

1750
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 2: But could you see a scenario where maybe Dana was right?

1751
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: And I thought Dana was being a dick this whole time,

1752
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: constantly saying Francis is a bad guy at every turn,

1753
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: because when Dana has a grudge with somebody, that can happen.

1754
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder if he's right. Now, Look, I

1755
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know the specifics, but I wonder

1756
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: if he's right, is it fair to at least say

1757
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 2: we may change our tune on that one day?

1758
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, is Dana right that Francis is a bad guy?

1759
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if one event makes him a bad

1760
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: guy or what the full scope of it is. Also,

1761
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: why would Francis be a bad guy because he wanted,

1762
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, to get the best deal imaginable like that

1763
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: doesn't make him a bad guy. That might make him

1764
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: someone you don't want to do business with, but that

1765
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: doesn't make him a bad person, right, And so you know,

1766
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, everyone is going to make mistakes, and

1767
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: everyone's going to make poor judgment, and lord knows, I've

1768
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: got a life filled with incidences like that. But I

1769
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: just think on this one issue, could Francis have done

1770
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: more to be a willing participant to a company that

1771
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: you know, I mean rolled out the red carpet and

1772
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: then some for him. Yeah he could have, Dude, he

1773
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 1: could have. I think Don Davis is really right on

1774
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: this one.

1775
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's Jake Paul too?

1776
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: Well, that's not Francis's fault. I mean he can't fix that.

1777
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: I get that.

1778
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: I get that. All right, let's go to topic number five.

1779
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: A reminder. We will not have a show on Friday.

1780
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna have our pregame preview on Thursday, So now's

1781
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 2: the only time to talk about this. There is Big

1782
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 2: time boxing this Saturday. Whether it should be a pay

1783
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: per view on his own in the US is another argument.

1784
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: But twenty year old heavyweight prospect Moses Atama from the

1785
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: United Kingdom, Dude, I just did a video deep dive.

1786
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 2: This phenom is totally on the verge of being a

1787
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 2: very legit thing. Twelve and zero with ten KOs somehow,

1788
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 2: just twenty years old, and he's got a big fight

1789
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 2: against thirty seven year old Dylan Dillian White. Excuse me,

1790
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 2: this Saturday, we know White has battle tested just three losses,

1791
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: all on the elite level, and this will just be

1792
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: Atama's thirteenth pro fight. The bout will take place in Riod,

1793
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia. White might be thirty seven, but we don't

1794
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 2: really worry about that in heavyweight, and he's got an

1795
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: incredible amount of experience having faced the likes of Anthony

1796
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: Joshua Tyson Fury, knocked out Joseph Parker. So we're talking about,

1797
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 2: you know, split those fights with Alexander Povietkin, and he's

1798
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: fighting a kid who's twenty years old. Luke, does it

1799
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 2: feel like this is too much too soon for Atama

1800
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: who has fought only twenty five rounds in his career,

1801
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: or after you watch the tape, after you listen to

1802
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 2: him speak, which I did this week it's going to

1803
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: be an interview on my channel, does that change anything

1804
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 2: for you to the idea that is this kid ready

1805
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 2: for this fight and if he wins it, you already

1806
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 2: know Turkey wants to put him in there against Usik.

1807
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 2: So we're not talking about the future. The future is

1808
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: going to be right now.

1809
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: I think he's the most exciting prospect in combat sports.

1810
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,799
Speaker 2: Woh whoa, whoa, Wow.

1811
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: Okay, if I'm okay, who is more exciting as a

1812
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: prospect than him?

1813
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the question, right, that's the damn question.

1814
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you could say Gable Steveson if you're

1815
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: really projecting, But we don't. I mean we don't. We

1816
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: have so little to go on. You know that we're

1817
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: just looking at his wrestling and we don't know exactly

1818
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: what that will mean. You know, but a tama is

1819
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: do you look at him on tape? He's he's fast.

1820
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: I feel like he he like his body just naturally

1821
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: flows in in. How do I say this exactly? There

1822
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: are some people who can learn how to box, and

1823
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: there are some people it seems like boxing naturally flows

1824
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: through them, and he seems like the ladder of those. Now,

1825
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: I obviously have questions b see less so and whether

1826
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: he can beat Dillion White. However, to the point you raised,

1827
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 1: which is okay, well, let's say he goes out there

1828
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: and he just smokes Dillion White right inside three four rounds. Well,

1829
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: then what they're gonna give him ousik And now that

1830
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 1: seems like a bridge too far, because while the kid,

1831
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: the kid can't even legally buy a beer in the

1832
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: United States. That's how young he is. He can't even

1833
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: do that. He couldn't vote here. I mean, obviously he's British,

1834
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 1: but you know the point I'm trying to make, like

1835
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be old enough.

1836
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime soon, Luke, that's right.

1837
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever, whatever you know, demarcishline you want to

1838
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: use for being twenty one, he hasn't crossed it yet,

1839
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 1: and so it just seems like we're rushing him so quick.

1840
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: But like, dude, think about Moses Etomas Rise versus somebody

1841
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,799
Speaker 1: like an American fighter like Richie Torres. Now, Richie Torres

1842
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,719
Speaker 1: is good BC. He's a good fighter. He's not Moses

1843
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: he Tauma. I mean, he's just not. He just cannot

1844
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: do what that kid can do. He doesn't move like

1845
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: he moves, he doesn't hit like he hits. And Torres

1846
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: is a good, you know, accomplished fighter. So I feel

1847
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: like the hype on him is it's more than just real.

1848
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: It's it's in many ways justified. I guess it's the

1849
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,759
Speaker 1: same thing I worry about in MMA. You get someone

1850
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: who's young and they're killing it. They're like front of

1851
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: the line, and that can mess up everything thereafter, So

1852
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: I guess we'll just have to see how it goes.

1853
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: But do I believe in his upside, Yes, I firmly

1854
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 1: believe in his upside.

1855
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: So he's not gonna break Mike Tyson's record as the

1856
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: youngest heavyweight champion in history at age twenty. He'll turn

1857
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 2: twenty one in December, but obviously he has the potential

1858
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: to be pretty darn close. He was born in Slovakia

1859
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 2: to a Nigerian father and Slovakian mother. Moved to the

1860
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 2: UK when he was four years old. I also didn't

1861
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 2: want to believe that this was all real, right, but

1862
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: he has fought some durable old contenders and blown them

1863
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 2: away his hand, speed, the variety of his offense, these

1864
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 2: are he has phenom level abilities in there. Obviously. The

1865
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 2: questions we don't have answers for is he's gone the

1866
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 2: distance twice in six round fights early in his career,

1867
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: never been past six as a pro, has knocked out

1868
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,839
Speaker 2: so many fighters as he's climbed the ladder in the first, second,

1869
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 2: and third rounds. So I chat with him, We're gonna

1870
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 2: hear this. You can check out this interview in full

1871
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 2: on the Brian Campbell experience, I believe tomorrow. But let's

1872
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 2: first hear from Moses Atalma talking about just that, dealing

1873
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 2: with the pressure of potentially being the next big thing

1874
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 2: at age twenty.

1875
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 3: Pressure is always a thing, but press is a privilege.

1876
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 3: Pressure allows you to show you your metal. So I

1877
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 3: use this moment to kind of use it to my advantage.

1878
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 3: And I'm twenty years old, but I try not to

1879
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 3: think like a twenty year old.

1880
01:30:58,520 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: I tried.

1881
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 3: I've tried to think like as if I'm where my

1882
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 3: competition's at, you know what I mean, Because I don't

1883
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 3: ever want to use my age as an excuse. I

1884
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 3: didn't beat him because I was twenty years old. No,

1885
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 3: you didn't beat him because you wasn't good enough. I

1886
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 3: don't want to use that excuse. So I didn't wh

1887
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 3: big five. And it's if is going to be a

1888
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 3: big statement.

1889
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. I also asked him about this

1890
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: crazy fact, like ten years ago, he's in like the

1891
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 2: fourth grade watching this current heavyweight era kickoff with the

1892
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 2: likes of Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, all fighting

1893
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 2: for their first world title around that time. Ten years later,

1894
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 2: he's on the verge of potentially fighting most of those

1895
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 2: names if he gets that opportunity right, how does he

1896
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: deal with that fact fighting his boyhood heroes. Here's Atama.

1897
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 2: You're coming in at the end of what I think

1898
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:54,839
Speaker 2: is one of the most fun one of the greatest

1899
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 2: heavyweight eras of all time. You've got guys like Fury,

1900
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 2: Joshua Wilder, Parker, usik All at or around age forty.

1901
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: When they first came on the scene and came on top,

1902
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 2: you were like, what fourth or fifth grade? How weird

1903
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 2: is it that you literally could end up fighting all

1904
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 2: those guys or a bunch of those guys, and it

1905
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 2: could be in stadium title fights. Do you pinch yourself?

1906
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 2: Is that crazy to you?

1907
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: Yes?

1908
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know how the great system works

1909
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 3: in America. Obviously in England we have years. But I

1910
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 3: remember when Anthony Joshua when he boxed didn't white. I

1911
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 3: was ten years old. Now I'm boxing didn't Why to

1912
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Speaker 3: get what I mean? But you know, people don't really

1913
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 3: give me credit because like boxing didn't why it is

1914
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 3: a big thing. If didn't, why Wilts to box Joseie Parker,

1915
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 3: that's a big thing. If didn't why it was to

1916
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 3: have a rematch with Anthony Joshua. That's selling now O two,

1917
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 3: maybe even more. I'm fighting dilling White at twenty years old,

1918
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 3: and people ain't that. People ain't giving me no credit

1919
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 3: for that. People are matter of fact saying I'm going

1920
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 3: to knock him out in inside whatever rounds. But it's

1921
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 3: funny because the same people that think that I'm going

1922
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Speaker 3: to knock didn't why. I was saying I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Ready for.

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Speaker 3: USI's Parker's them them top of names, but then they

1925
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 3: don't think that that them top of names will knockout.

1926
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 3: Didn't why in two rounds. So it's like it's a

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Speaker 3: cycle of so.

1928
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Speaker 2: Look, he went through distance twice in six round fights.

1929
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Speaker 2: As I said, all ten of his other fights have

1930
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 2: not made it out of the second round. Atama promoted

1931
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 2: by Frank Warren, who had a quote that said Moses

1932
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 2: can be the flag bearer for British sport internationally, not

1933
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 2: just as a boxer, but I think he can be

1934
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 2: a cultural icon internationally. When you think about people like

1935
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods or Lebron James. He is one of those guys.

1936
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 2: End quote, Luke, you just heard how mature and sophisticated

1937
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: he seems to be he's got his head on straight.

1938
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 2: His trainer, Ben Davison will not stop talking about his

1939
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 2: ability to listen and how mature he is. Do you

1940
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 2: think these comparisons from Frank Warren are fair standard promoter

1941
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 2: hype or are you getting the feeling too that even

1942
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 2: though we don't have all the answers to how good

1943
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 2: he is, that there's something truly special in I mean, in.

1944
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: The end, Lebron had a lot of hype coming out

1945
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: of high school, but it's because he was doing incredible things.

1946
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 1: He did incredible things from his first game in the

1947
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: NBA onwards, and Tiger Woods was doing incredible things as

1948
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: a young phenom. But I guess the point I'm trying

1949
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: to make is they didn't really become Lebron James. It

1950
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: didn't really become Tiger Woods until they had something in

1951
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: their back pocket to show that, like, this is what

1952
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 1: the hype meant, to crystallize it, and to this point

1953
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: we don't really have that, So, like, is it a

1954
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: little premature now to say that? Certainly it could backfire

1955
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: if Petoma goes out there and gets wiped out by

1956
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Dillian White or something like that. But I think I

1957
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: would say this BC, if there's anybody I've seen in

1958
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: boxing as a candidate to do something like that. I mean,

1959
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: Lebron's obviously something kind of special, and so is Tiger, right,

1960
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, it's still an exaggeration. It's

1961
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: still an exaggeration no matter what. But I guess I

1962
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: would just say, is you just don't have a lot

1963
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 1: of prospects in boxing, irrespective of weight class at twenty

1964
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: who you feel like can move as fast to the

1965
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: top as this guy can. You know, everything else is

1966
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: very incremental, and partly that's because heavyweight's a little bit

1967
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: more wide open, but the fact that he's just bulldozing

1968
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 1: his way into it so effortlessly is kind of speaking

1969
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: to that effect. I just want folks to say whether

1970
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 1: or not it's a Tiger Woods or it's a Lebron thing,

1971
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, you can decide, But is there something seemingly

1972
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 1: special about him? I don't think that much is really

1973
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: up for debate.

1974
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, southpaw, huge hand speed, he said. The only heavyweight

1975
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 2: that might have faster hands than him is Andy Ruiz,

1976
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: who certainly has fast hands reaching for the food lately.

1977
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 2: I hope Andy can get back in gear and still

1978
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 2: get a big fight. But dude, he offensively is just

1979
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 2: a different level of a heavyweight we've seen up to

1980
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 2: this point. White's going to be a sturdy test three

1981
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 2: and oh since that twenty twenty two knockout loss to

1982
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury. And look, the interesting thing is Gillian White's

1983
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 2: been ko three times, all on upper cuts, so we're

1984
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 2: gonna see if that could be a punch Otama can use.

1985
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 2: And finally, here for Moses, if you're wondering what styles

1986
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 2: of which fighters he've will followed growing up kind of

1987
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: came together to make this style that he brings out.

1988
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 2: Now the list is fairly decorated. Let's listen. I read

1989
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: that you were a big fan of the great one

1990
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 2: Prince Nasim Hahmed as a youngster. How much did he,

1991
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 2: in what ways influence you as a boxer like I.

1992
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 3: Went through like us, that spurs of fighters like Nasim

1993
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 3: Hammad was the first fight I loved watching. Then for

1994
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 3: like a long period of time, it was Floyd may With,

1995
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 3: it was Golofkin, and then for a long time it

1996
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 3: became Lomachenko, then Givonne Davis and whatnot and blah blah blah.

1997
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 3: Then george fulman was one for a long time. Also,

1998
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,679
Speaker 3: I'm going to steal this from Ay with her uh.

1999
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to be like a fighter. I want

2000
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 3: my own kind of style, my own identity, and my

2001
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:21,719
Speaker 3: own identity is a mixture of all these fighters. There's

2002
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 3: fights where I've gone into them and like, for example,

2003
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 3: the fight against me versus Marius White, people are saying

2004
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 3: that I look like the heaywet Many patio. And then

2005
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 3: obviously when it comes when it comes to fights like

2006
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 3: Dempsey mckin or Mike Ballaghan, I think that's most is

2007
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 3: the town my style. To get what I mean like,

2008
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 3: I'm just confusing, just confusing them. Obviously it didn't it didn't.

2009
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 3: It didn't originate from me. There's nothing that I do

2010
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 3: that other people haven't done. It's just the fact that

2011
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 3: I managed to mix it in so well.

2012
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 2: Look, we're gonna find out on Saturday. This might be

2013
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 2: completely too much hype too early, but from what we've

2014
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 2: seen of him, it's super, super impressive. I can't wait

2015
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 2: to see it on Saturday.

2016
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm hyped again. I'm not really to me. Saturday's result

2017
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 1: is not so much in question. I guess we'll see

2018
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: but let's see what it happens afterwards. Are they going

2019
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 1: to strap a rocket to this kid's back and make

2020
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 1: him do stuff before he's ready? I don't know. I

2021
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 1: don't know, or maybe or maybe or maybe he's ready,

2022
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: who knows.

2023
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 2: You know, he's a ten to one as high as

2024
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 2: a twelve to one betting favorite against the durable Dillian White,

2025
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 2: So we're gonna see. And you know, he said to

2026
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 2: himself to me, he said, look, I might not deserve

2027
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 2: Whosick next if I win this, because he mentioned that

2028
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 2: Joseph Parker and Ajit Kabayel have you know, done some

2029
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 2: big things lately. But he said, it's not about what

2030
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 2: you deserve, it's about what you negotiate. So we'll see

2031
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 2: if Turkey picks him out of the group and puts

2032
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 2: him up there, we'll check it out. This podcast, This

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Speaker 2: Instagram we offer you an opportunity to get your questions

2064
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:19,400
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2066
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:32,719
Speaker 2: from our first fan. What do you got for us, folks?

2067
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 2: This one's from Tactical Underscore Athlete Underscore Motivation. With Luke's

2068
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 2: comments about Fluffy potentially fighting for a title in twenty

2069
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 2: six or twenty seven, this is, of course Anthony Hernandez.

2070
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 2: Do you think it might be expedited with the dominance

2071
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 2: of de Ledese? Maybe early twenty six? Now we hit

2072
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 2: that off the top, Luke. But you're telling me you

2073
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 2: would not be shocked if he fights the winner of

2074
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 2: Saturday's Man Event.

2075
01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 1: How can you? How can you look what he did

2076
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: to Deleds and be like, oh, it's inconceivable he would

2077
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: fight for a title soon, Like obviously that now is

2078
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 1: very much brought into clear view, Like he's one of

2079
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: these guys who can do it, So it's just a

2080
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 1: question of you know, again, the other part here be

2081
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:18,799
Speaker 1: seeing part of what part of why I was heston

2082
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,600
Speaker 1: was I wasn't sure about his upside. And then the

2083
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 1: other one is, again we've talked about earlier, he's not

2084
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: a great self promoter. These things affect you, These things

2085
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: affect how you can get picked. But you know, b C.

2086
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: Like if they do another notechay card, where would he

2087
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 1: fit on that? You know what I mean? Like, there's

2088
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: ways in which he could fit in to a broader

2089
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: set of circumstances that he could get the not I

2090
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 1: just don't see how he doesn't fight for a title

2091
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:42,719
Speaker 1: at some point. I really don't.

2092
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 2: Do you like his tats?

2093
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: The one on his I'd have to take a closer

2094
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: look a bunch of them, I don't. I don't like

2095
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: owls on the chest. I'm not a big owl chest guy.

2096
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 2: But you're more of like Chip and ze on the chest.

2097
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't you talking about Connor?

2098
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about Connor.

2099
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a gorilla. That's not a chimpanzee.

2100
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 2: Sorry, Luke, Okay, I mean you know where I come from.

2101
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,600
Speaker 2: It's kind of close similar.

2102
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean okay.

2103
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're animals lucas where I come from,

2104
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 2: all right, I mean you know, crocodile, alligator, same thing

2105
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:17,879
Speaker 2: to me, okay, really.

2106
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean I I yeah, that's it.

2107
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Second one here is from Pat

2108
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,839
Speaker 2: McCann thirty four, echoing my thoughts exactly. Luke has middleweight

2109
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 2: become a top three UFC division with the young talent

2110
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 2: coming through.

2111
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 1: Top three. I don't know, because what do you got?

2112
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 1: You got forty five fifty five?

2113
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 2: I like fifty five and seventy as the two best.

2114
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, then I would hold seventy Yeah, one forty five

2115
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 1: to one seventy I think is the sweet spot.

2116
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:46,480
Speaker 2: Bandam weight still kind of rules.

2117
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: Right, Banda Wade's also Benda wet. You could throw bandonweight

2118
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: in there as well. So like to me, it's thirty

2119
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: five to eighty five is obviously where Emma is great.

2120
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Everything after that is.

2121
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 2: Just long on. Look, what do you got for top three?

2122
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 4: I would just looking and I want to be like,

2123
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Speaker 4: featherweight's kind of stagnant right now, or.

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Speaker 1: Well, vandom weight's kind of games there, but stagnant is

2125
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: a strong word.

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01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,719
Speaker 4: Bandom weight, I sink corrected because you got Morob taken

2127
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 4: on Cory, but then like Morobs beat everyone after that,

2128
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 4: and it's kind of just like it's all the same guys.

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01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a really bad division. Heavyweight, women's bandamweight,

2130
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 2: women's featherweight, women's strawweight, these days, light heavyweight. There you go.

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Speaker 2: Third ones from short Underscore Fluke, which iteration of UFCS

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Speaker 2: hundreds do you think will be the last you cover? Okay,

2133
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 2: so they're talking about these sort of anniversary big number

2134
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 2: cards like UFC one hundred and two hundred, which one

2135
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 2: will be the last that we each cover as media

2136
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,919
Speaker 2: four hundred, five hundred, six hundred or one thousand?

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Speaker 1: I mean definitely not a thousand. You can write that

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Speaker 1: one off.

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01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 2: But these come on quick pretty quick with thirteen a year, don't.

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01:43:55,240 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 1: They not that quickly? I mean U two thousand, two

2141
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 1: hundred was twenty sixteen, UFC three hundred was twenty twenty four, right, no, no, no,

2142
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:08,799
Speaker 1: when was UFC I'm sorry, when was UFC two hundred?

2143
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 2: That was about a year or two ago, twenty four

2144
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 2: April twenty four.

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01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 1: Now two hundred.

2146
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 2: Oh two hundred was July of sixteen.

2147
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have twenty nine, twenty sixteen, then twenty

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01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 1: twenty four was three. Yeah, I mean it might be

2149
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 1: a while. I mean for four, I'll probably be there.

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01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 1: I don't know after that.

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01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 2: I don't know after that, right, what will you be

2152
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 2: doing at UFC five hundred watching from home? Luke Thomas

2153
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 2: gets political? Or maybe Luke runs for the local office.

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01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:35,640
Speaker 1: By that way, Yeah, Luke Thomas runs for office and

2155
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: loses and then just moves to a cabin in the woods,

2156
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 1: never to be seen again.

2157
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 2: You should be full John fetterman when you do run

2158
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 2: for office and just like wear like sweats and just

2159
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 2: cropped us to everybody as you walk by.

2160
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: Just look like a useless ogre everywhere I go.

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01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 2: Yes, that's great. That guy's an American hero in so

2162
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 2: many ways, although I don't even know about his politicy.

2163
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 2: Do you support that man's politics?

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01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: No, he got brain damage and then turned into a

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Speaker 1: fucking idiot.

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01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 2: So okay, here we go. There's a little preview of

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01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,839
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas getting political. Our next one is from an

2168
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,879
Speaker 2: MVP in these parts Flannels and JITs a jujudor himself.

2169
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 2: What inspired you to start covering MMA and boxing? Was

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01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 2: there a particular fighter event that made you fall in

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01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 2: love with the sport as a fan.

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01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, I grew up watching it in the

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01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 1: late nineties. I didn't catch it early mid mid to

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01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: late nineties. I caught up with it, kind of fell

2175
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: out a little bit during college, and then picked it

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01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: back up right after that and then moved back to

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Speaker 1: DC and started training. And then that just set off

2178
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 1: a revolution in my life, I said, in my life

2179
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: has never been the same since.

2180
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 2: I had very early boxing fandom from the Rocky movies

2181
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 2: through a very important fight, which was sugar Y Leonard

2182
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 2: against Marvin Hagler in eighty seven that my dad, not

2183
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 2: a sports fan, bought the pay per view, had a

2184
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 2: party at my in my grandparents' basement, invited all his

2185
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 2: friends from work. So I got to feel at the

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01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 2: age of like seven in or eight, that that big

2187
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 2: fight feel and uh and see a you know, a

2188
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 2: contentious decision that people were debating. But you know, I

2189
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 2: came in and out as a fan for years, I

2190
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 2: think I don't know it was I always say it

2191
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 2: was me putting on the gloves, in the headgear and

2192
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 2: sparring regularly. In two thousand and four that that reactivated

2193
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 2: a hardcore thing that led me less than a decade

2194
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 2: letter to writing about boxing on a on a you know,

2195
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 2: on a full time level, or not a full time

2196
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 2: level at that point, but on a large level at ESPN.

2197
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 2: So I'm totally going to credit that path you have

2198
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 2: c like you, Luke, I was watching the on on

2199
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 2: illegal cable boxes, the early pay per views like UFC three, four,

2200
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 2: five six like that. I never thought I'd be an

2201
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 2: MMA media member, but here we are. You know, you

2202
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 2: never know.

2203
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 1: Life takes funny turns.

2204
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, why are we covering it? Because it's our passion,

2205
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 2: this is our life, this is the spirit we bring

2206
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 2: to the show.

2207
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 1: You know, that's right, that has to be explained. But

2208
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 1: there you go.

2209
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Speaker 2: Number five, our last one from probably Brian who spells

2210
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 2: it like a why, which is just absurd. Who are

2211
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 2: your top three musical artists to listen to? Let's say,

2212
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 2: in general, like of this modern era? Who are our

2213
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 2: top Who are your top three artists?

2214
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: I can only listen to say who I'm listening to?

2215
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: In rotation? Now? How about that? Okay?

2216
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 3: Uh?

2217
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:19,719
Speaker 1: The new Clips album is unbelievable good. I can't believe

2218
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:23,799
Speaker 1: how good that album is. It's so slick and well produced.

2219
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 1: So there's that. I'm gonna say. Harm's Way is kind

2220
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: of like this sort of like hardcore band that I

2221
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 1: found that I really like. Throwing a little Trapped under

2222
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: Ice is another one that I like a lot too,

2223
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 1: and then what's a third one? You know what, I've

2224
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 1: been digging back into the crates SPEC's. I've mentioned this

2225
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: many times on MK, but it you know, it just

2226
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: never seems to go out of style. Cameron, I'm a

2227
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 1: big camera on guy, dude. I mean, I just there's

2228
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 1: so many hits that have so many gems in the

2229
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 1: in the lyrics. That's where I'm at these days.

2230
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 2: All right, I'm listening to Bright Eyes obsessively. Again. I

2231
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,719
Speaker 2: was a big twenty years ago and now I can't

2232
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 2: get out. I'm massive on Deep Purple. I'm deep diving

2233
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 2: from start to finish. They change your lineup every three years.

2234
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 2: It's wild and aggressive. I love it. And I would say,

2235
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a massive traffic fan with Steve Winwood Luke.

2236
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 2: You know, I live in the sixties and seventies in

2237
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 2: my basement, so those are maybe maybe Joe Walsh and

2238
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 2: the and the the James Gang as well. It's been

2239
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 2: a big part of my life lately, but I'm all

2240
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 2: over the place. I got genres coming out of genres,

2241
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 2: but these are these are the lives we live. We love.

2242
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 2: Music is my life, Luke. Okay, it's your passion, it's

2243
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 2: my passion. Thank you very much. All right, that's our

2244
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,719
Speaker 2: our DMS from dunks. A reminder that you can reach

2245
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 2: out to our program at Morningcombat at gmail dot com.

2246
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 2: We won't have fan subs or dead wrongs this week,

2247
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 2: but you people have been on fire with the fans subs,

2248
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 2: so keep up the great work. We'll be back with

2249
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,919
Speaker 2: those next week. Don't show Mikey your butthole, thank.

2250
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: You, all right, show him your cock and balls.

2251
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 2: We got one more segment for you, and I mean

2252
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 2: it's it's fan frea fantastic because every Sunday I scour

2253
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:07,720
Speaker 2: the globe for the highs and lows, the good, the bad,

2254
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,919
Speaker 2: the ugly from the worlds of combat sports and beyond.

2255
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 2: This one's called BC's feces. Luke, would you say I've

2256
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:26,919
Speaker 2: been on a run lately or what are we stagnant?

2257
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 2: Where are we at?

2258
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 1: You know you're above ufc apex, but you're not pay

2259
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: per view.

2260
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 2: All right, let's see what grade you'll give me today

2261
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 2: Weekend Combat roundup time. Angela Hill had a moment at

2262
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 2: the weigh ins. Luke, let's watch this. I mean, she's

2263
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 2: she's trolling, but this is interesting, Luke, what do you

2264
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 2: make of it?

2265
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 1: Handing it to the old white guy.

2266
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 2: He probably sniffed those things, pulling those fake little uh

2267
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 2: bra implants out and then acting embarrassed. She's a she's

2268
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 2: a treasure even though she lost.

2269
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah she lost, but you know what a unique personnel

2270
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,160
Speaker 1: in the sport, to be sure, and.

2271
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 2: That was a fun little action fight. And she's forty

2272
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,879
Speaker 2: years old. She's gonna like redefine longevity in the female game.

2273
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 1: Right for sure already has.

2274
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Holly Holm as well, although she's getting back into

2275
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 2: boxing now. BKFC Edmonton happened and check out this way

2276
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 2: in between people named Santiago and Steve.

2277
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 12: What a good time we're gonna have tomorrow. As you

2278
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 12: can see, ladies and gentlemen, the fireworks and getting these

2279
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 12: two apart. It looks a lot trickier than it is

2280
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 12: in the middleweight division.

2281
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: Drew Stevie and Will.

2282
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 12: Santiago, This looks like a fight, you do not want.

2283
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 1: To miss.

2284
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 2: Now we did miss it, but to that Yary Jerry, Yeah,

2285
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 2: you're right, that does have those vibes. Did that make

2286
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 2: you want to watch the fighter?

2287
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: No? No, no, I have a family.

2288
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's go to Chinese regional mma

2289
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 2: where yeah, anything can happen. Luke, watch this gentleman try

2290
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 2: to celebrate a win. What do you think is gonna

2291
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 2: happen here?

2292
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 1: Okay? All right, guys, alright, all right, guys, don't concuss

2293
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:16,719
Speaker 1: yourself in a sport where you get concussed. Please please

2294
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: listen to me.

2295
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 2: Uh Luke, remember on Saved by the Bell where they

2296
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 2: had that recurring bit where screech would be like in

2297
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 2: the locker and then they'd open the door and he'd

2298
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 2: say something funny and they close it. They do that

2299
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 2: in the UFC. Now watch your thoughts.

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01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm not five. How was that? Okay?

2301
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:45,759
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, first.

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01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 1: Question, if you're not five, how is that funny? I

2303
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 1: don't know.

2304
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know. You know, I used to be

2305
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 2: uh certified with a jack in a factory and a forklift.

2306
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 2: Watch this fella get all jacked up. You know he's

2307
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:00,879
Speaker 2: moved big product.

2308
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:02,839
Speaker 1: All right, all right, he's got the little.

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01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 13: Oh my god, oh god, wow, No, yeah, where's oh

2310
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 13: Jesus wow, that was awesome.

2311
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 2: Luke, would you say Babe Ruth still has an argument

2312
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 2: to be baseball's goat? Or did Barry Bonds eclipse him? Maybe? Yeah,

2313
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 2: let's check out this Babe Ruth moment.

2314
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 7: Now batting number three, Babe Ruth, here's the pitch strike one.

2315
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 11: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa blue whoa whoa whoa?

2316
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 1: What is the picture plat?

2317
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just you know, it's a fair recreation.

2318
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 2: If if Babe Ruth had played in modern times, right.

2319
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 1: He would be asking questions, you know he would.

2320
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 2: All right, Well, speaking of baseball, it's time to head

2321
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 2: out to the old ball game. Watch this Indians fan

2322
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 2: try to catch a home run.

2323
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 1: Okay, he gets halfway through, then dawas is that lady? Yeah? Yeah,

2324
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 1: take that?

2325
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 2: Yeaheah. Do you think that's his significant other or just some.

2326
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 1: Broad, just some broad, he's just pointer. Take that.

2327
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 2: Yankees had Old Timer's Day over the weekend, where Mario

2328
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 2: Revera Mariano Rivera tore his acl But we also found

2329
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 2: a new mythical creature called wash Johnny Damon, Luke, tell

2330
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 2: me about that?

2331
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: Is that Johnny Damon?

2332
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 4: It really is bro No, literally unrecognizable.

2333
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,679
Speaker 1: Dude. Why is his face the size of the moon.

2334
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 2: It's the size of my head. I mean it's insane.

2335
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'm not even kidding. It looks like someone

2336
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: put a rubber mask on a pumpkin.

2337
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 2: He's eating good Luke with that caveman hair. That's insane.

2338
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:47,719
Speaker 1: I mean I can't. I mean, after you know, after

2339
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 1: going to uh Portugal and then the beach, I've been

2340
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 1: eating like like he's going on a style too, so

2341
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 1: I can hardly talk. But he's If you had told

2342
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 1: me that's Johnny Damon, I would not have like, like,

2343
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 1: I just that is a it's a real fat man

2344
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 1: right there.

2345
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope he's not sick. And now I'll have

2346
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 2: to feel bad for showing that look, but you know,

2347
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 2: fuck him. I once went to when I was a

2348
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,439
Speaker 2: high school sports reporter for a newspaper. I once had

2349
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,640
Speaker 2: a game in Stanford, but then it rained out, so

2350
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 2: I just kept driving to the Mets game. I bought

2351
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 2: a six pack and drank it on the way, and

2352
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 2: then I went to a game alone, moved my seat around,

2353
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 2: spent two hundred dollars on food, and then got ejected

2354
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 2: for talking about jose Mesa's mother while he was warming

2355
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 2: up in the bullpen, and he gave me the blowjob

2356
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 2: sign to try to and then he called with on

2357
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 2: the bullpen phone security to remove me. That reminded me

2358
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 2: of this clip with Pirates Tommy fam Yeah, yeah, I

2359
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 2: take that fans right.

2360
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 1: That's how we greet each other in the Thomas household.

2361
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 1: Let me make no mistake.

2362
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean, look, is that lame at age twenty two

2363
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 2: to go to a game alone and get loaded?

2364
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 1: The former you admitted on cameradges now to drinking and

2365
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 1: driving was a lot.

2366
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean it was like when I got to the

2367
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 2: parking lot.

2368
01:54:57,960 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah right right right, not on the way.

2369
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 5: For sure, you.

2370
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 2: Would do that in two thousand and one. I mean

2371
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 2: that'd be so awful. Luke. Let's go to a We

2372
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 2: unlocked a new comic book hero for you. His name Volcanos.

2373
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 1: He strikes with living lava. Yeah, this is me after

2374
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 1: Taco Bell.

2375
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that is uh?

2376
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 1: Or is he just shitting blood? We don't know?

2377
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 2: That could be just like you right there. Let's go

2378
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 2: over to New York City. They got construction. Check out

2379
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 2: this sign.

2380
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: Cock and balls.

2381
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't hate that, right? Come on?

2382
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 1: New York is the best. I fucking love New York, Luke.

2383
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:39,959
Speaker 2: Would you say the worst place to be is anywhere

2384
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 2: near NFL fans?

2385
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 1: Yes? I mean, and you go to an NFL game,

2386
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: you're white trash. I'm sorry. All right?

2387
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 2: Check out this fight between a Ravens fan and two

2388
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 2: Commanders fans.

2389
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: So I actually have a story about this. This is

2390
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 1: an old one. This was after the commander. Yeah, this

2391
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: after the Commanders. So this dude in the Ravens Jersey

2392
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 1: they found him. Oh, and he was charged with multiple

2393
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 1: crimes for doing this. Would it surprise you BC that

2394
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: he ended up being a finance bro and a trust

2395
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 1: fund kid? Would that surprise you?

2396
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 2: Was he part of this w NBA dildo crypto scam

2397
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 2: or what?

2398
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 5: Look?

2399
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 1: He looks like he would be the first guy at

2400
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 1: the front lines of an NBA w NBA dildo crypto scamp.

2401
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: But he got his The law enforcement got him. So

2402
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 1: shouts to that piece of shit.

2403
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 2: All right, would you hang out with these New England

2404
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 2: Patriot fans by any chance?

2405
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 1: I'll make an exception in their case.

2406
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 2: That guy in the tied eye. That's incredible.

2407
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: I'll make an exception, dude. I like how they didn't

2408
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 1: even bring like a pen. They just brought pure flower

2409
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 1: and then Jerry rigged the Michelo Ultrick bottle to get

2410
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 1: it done.

2411
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 2: I have done that in the upper deck of Yankee

2412
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 2: Stadium before.

2413
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, are you really yeah, of course, I mean

2414
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 1: I've brought I've brought the pen to the stadium before,

2415
01:56:56,680 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 1: but I've never brought flower. Never.

2416
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, different people, Luke, Let's go to Cowboys wide receiver.

2417
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 2: Here's an NFL bonus clip CD lamp. Watch out for

2418
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 2: that referee.

2419
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: Bro cde lamb Oh.

2420
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 2: I see turn off the lamp. Now, Luke lights out. Wow,

2421
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 2: that is fantastic right there. I don't really watch much

2422
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 2: NFL these days. Okay, Luke, Suffolk County.

2423
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 1: One of the stars of the NFL.

2424
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 2: But okay, Luke, Suffolk County of New York is getting

2425
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:31,000
Speaker 2: excited about usay's two hundred and fiftieth celebration come this

2426
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 2: July fourth. This was actually a press conference listening.

2427
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 5: This is my county.

2428
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 3: By the way, It's gonna be a gang bang like

2429
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 3: you have never seen we've been send off the rockets.

2430
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 3: We're going to enjoy all independence.

2431
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 10: Thank you?

2432
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 1: Hell yeah brother, heyng Luke, you're gonna go to the

2433
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 1: Gang Bang. Yeah.

2434
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 5: Me and Frovolo will both be there.

2435
01:57:57,240 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 2: Did we sell like Bob Arab never screwed so many

2436
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 2: women in my.

2437
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 1: Life, so many broads.

2438
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 2: It was a two day augy. It was great stuff.

2439
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 2: All right, what else we got here? Let's go down

2440
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 2: to uh hey, the whole Hogan tributes continued. Did you

2441
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 2: see the day of his funeral that the clouds look

2442
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 2: like it was doing the Hogan pose? You didn't you?

2443
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 1: H once again? I'm not five?

2444
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,480
Speaker 2: Oh sorry? Okay, Well here's the hard Rock Cafe paying

2445
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 2: tribute to Hulk.

2446
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 1: Hogan hard R. Okay, that's pretty good.

2447
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

2448
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 1: Okay, he got a little pop from me. There you go.

2449
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 2: Time for your KOs of the week. NASCAR's Connor Zillish

2450
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 2: chaoted himself and broke his collarbone after winning an Exfinity

2451
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:46,080
Speaker 2: Series race. I've never seen anything like this before, Luke.

2452
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what the fuck?

2453
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's maybe they should get NASCAR doors that open.

2454
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: How about that guy's Okay, why are we doing dukes

2455
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 2: of Hazzard style.

2456
01:58:58,120 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 1: Dude, did he tear his kneet? Go show it one more?

2457
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 1: Did he tear his knee to.

2458
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 2: Brook his collar bone and and was knocked out?

2459
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so watch it. He slips there by the way

2460
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 1: he slips on that rubber already and then sure enough

2461
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 1: slips again.

2462
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 2: Good lord.

2463
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 1: Oh and he did the he did the I'm not

2464
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: trying to you know, I'm not trying to hate, but

2465
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: he did the two tongue of ilow of fencing bit.

2466
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 2: You know, he's.

2467
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 4: The broadcast too, so they they were the commentators were

2468
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 4: like awkwardly like, oh uh, just got away from it.

2469
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 2: Let's go to commercial. Yeah, all right, Luke watched this

2470
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:36,360
Speaker 2: motorcycle debut did dispute Excuse me? It looks like South America,

2471
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 2: but it gets wild, you know, the classic dude that

2472
01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 2: guy came back to life.

2473
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 1: Somebody he had to get it though. He's like, you

2474
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 1: just hit the guy with the crutches. Somebody's gonna get it.

2475
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 1: That's insane.

2476
02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:07,800
Speaker 2: All right, Good news this week. Do you remember former

2477
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:13,120
Speaker 2: Morning Combat social media engineer Brendan Lynch. Of course, he's

2478
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:16,000
Speaker 2: like a poor man's Gordon, but he's like ripped his

2479
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 2: shit he got his Brazilian Jesuits black belt this week

2480
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. Look at that handsome, tanned fellow. And

2481
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 2: in the comments congratulating was not only Christian Daguerro of

2482
02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:32,920
Speaker 2: Amateur Mma fame, but Ac Slater. And here's a picture

2483
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:36,880
Speaker 2: of Mario Lopez and the aforementioned Brendan Lynch. Hey shout

2484
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 2: out to that fellow, right, Luke.

2485
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:40,720
Speaker 1: Amazing. I think he was like a blue or purple

2486
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 1: belt when he worked with us, so he flew up

2487
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 1: the ranks. Good for him, man, I.

2488
02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:46,840
Speaker 2: Hope he gets chicks too. I mean that guy, ow,

2489
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 2: well done, Lynch.

2490
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:49,920
Speaker 1: Why don't you go have sex with him? And Bretto Kamoto?

2491
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Well you want to be in the human Centipede. But

2492
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,120
Speaker 1: between the o Kamotos and the Lynches.

2493
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,520
Speaker 2: Well, currently I'm the meat and a Sawolf fan sandwich.

2494
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 2: But I'm also married. Look please, okay, here you go,

2495
02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 2: all right? Thank you? Uh, Luke, let's honor, honest? Abe?

2496
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 2: Maybe my favorite President Abraham Lincoln. You a big fan

2497
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:09,280
Speaker 2: of him.

2498
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck.

2499
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, here's an impression of him.

2500
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 12: This is my impression of Abraham Lincoln carrying two very

2501
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 12: full cups.

2502
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 1: Of water wait, hold on, shot late.

2503
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:37,280
Speaker 14: Sorry, that's good. God right, that's good, not bad.

2504
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 2: I don't know where he ranks in your favorite President countdown,

2505
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 2: but here's here's somebody who's ranking Lincoln just the same,

2506
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 2: ranking every US president by how much I want to

2507
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:49,200
Speaker 2: go to the theater with them coming in At last place,

2508
02:01:49,240 --> 02:01:53,520
Speaker 2: we have Abraham Lincoln. That guy gets me every time.

2509
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 2: Apparently I'm alone, all right. Clothing Items of the week.

2510
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 2: Here's the best T shirt I can find.

2511
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 1: I may not go down in history, but I'll go

2512
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 1: down on your Okay, geez.

2513
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 2: Fuck, here's the runner up, Luke, What did you like this? Better?

2514
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,560
Speaker 1: War bad? Boob's good? Yeah, I mean this is a

2515
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 1: platform I think we can all get behind, all right.

2516
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's your Heat of the week, which of

2517
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 2: course is honoring two thousand and one.

2518
02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:18,400
Speaker 1: Luke, I must be an eighteen year old in two

2519
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:25,760
Speaker 1: thousand and one the way I'm ready to die for Bush.

2520
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:27,840
Speaker 2: Luke, speaking of the good old days, do you ever

2521
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:31,080
Speaker 2: think about like acquiring old toys that you played with

2522
02:02:31,120 --> 02:02:32,720
Speaker 2: in the eighties and being like, Twuky, this is what

2523
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 2: we used to have, you know what I mean?

2524
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:35,920
Speaker 1: Sort of, But I mean it's hard to do that

2525
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: with a little girl.

2526
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, do you remember a view masters

2527
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 2: that you put them on your eyes and you put

2528
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:42,840
Speaker 2: the thing you got to get these for twoky.

2529
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 1: Luke crime scene photos?

2530
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 2: Well you know, I mean that's aggressive faces of death? Okay, okay,

2531
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 2: do we have one more? I don't know, okay, okay,

2532
02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 2: all right, alright, alright, alright, all right, speaking of never

2533
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,840
Speaker 2: forgetting Luke, check out this tribute tattoo. This is not

2534
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:04,520
Speaker 2: a joke. This is a a real thing. Are you

2535
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 2: forard or against it?

2536
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm against that. That is a ship tattoo, if ever

2537
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 1: there was one.

2538
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:12,280
Speaker 2: All Right, I mean, do you think people can honor

2539
02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:13,760
Speaker 2: nine to eleven or is it always?

2540
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible to honor that.

2541
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:19,760
Speaker 2: All right. Check out this Japanese restaurant. They are honoring

2542
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:23,240
Speaker 2: nine to eleven here on the sushi menu, of course,

2543
02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 2: with the if you're con zuoming a little more, oh

2544
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 2: the twin tower roll, Luke, you into that?

2545
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 1: What was on it?

2546
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:32,000
Speaker 2: Can we see one more time?

2547
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:32,120
Speaker 1: Here?

2548
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 2: Long?

2549
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 1: Is you're a way to pose it? I don't know

2550
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 1: if there's a way to pause it.

2551
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 5: There's not a way to pause it. It's said shrimp

2552
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Speaker 5: tempura well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I'd eat it. I'd eat it.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of food tributes for nine to eleven, Luke, check

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Speaker 2: out this pancakes place.

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Speaker 1: I took down the towers and under, Okay, in under, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean that's aggressive.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't do. There was a debate raging on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: like political Twitter, like a month ago and one per

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02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 1: Someone's arguing like, guys, I don't know if you know this,

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02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 1: but like nine to eleven, humor is everywhere, and everyone

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02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 1: in the comments was like, that's absolutely not true. And

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02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know for a fact it's true. I

2566
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that there were people like aggressively saying that

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02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't true. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it at all, to be honest. All right,

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02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 2: let's go to this guy's wedding. Here, watch the best man, Luke.

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Speaker 1: He's the test one. We see this one. Yeah, this

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02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 1: is the rerun his pants fall down?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, see you now I'm getting caught the reruns.

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Speaker 1: All right, pants up, fella father.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Luke, we know that you're like the late Kobe Bryant.

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02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:37,720
Speaker 2: You are a hashtag girl dad. You ever just race Tukes,

2576
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:40,840
Speaker 2: just you know, just for fun. Sure, Okay, watch this dad,

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Speaker 2: He's a great dad here. Wow, Wow, Luke, that's all

2578
02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 2: the ship I can handle this week.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well he's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that's a big that's a B

2581
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:02,120
Speaker 2: plus with my shoes.

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02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeahs plus, I'll give you that. We go for sure.

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Speaker 4: Right.

2584
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 2: One more reminder, folks, Morning Combat's August exclusive merchandise available

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Speaker 2: right now exclusively at Morningcombat Dot Shop until the end

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Speaker 2: of the month or until they last. You can get

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Speaker 2: the Morning Combat Beavis and butt Head T shirt. The

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Speaker 2: vaping is for closers and ho how about the autographed

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Speaker 2: super wash Dad's posters with BC and LT's signature on there.

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Speaker 2: We have less than five to go to get those

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Speaker 2: off the shelves and get ready for next month. Also,

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Speaker 2: we've got some evergreen items. You can get hats, you

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Speaker 2: can get a lot of things, and most importantly, folks,

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Speaker 2: colors on the T shirts to match your personality. Check

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Speaker 2: it all out at Morningcombat Dot Shop. Great shit, right there? Look,

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Speaker 2: anything else you want to tell these fine people?

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Speaker 1: See All Thursday, See All Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Pregame preview UFC three nineteen eleven am Eastern Time

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Speaker 2: on YouTube this Thursday live for Manhattan in UFC Lightweight.

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Speaker 2: Matt Fravola joining us. You can like and subscribe, by

2602
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 2: the way, if you haven't, please this does help the

2603
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Speaker 2: show go a long way. We'll see what the paramount

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Speaker 2: era of UFC looks like. But you know we're gonna

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Speaker 2: be there along the ride with you. You can check

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Speaker 2: out our extended channels and Luke Luke of the Long

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Speaker 2: Island fame like, are you pretty fired up for for

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Speaker 2: Vola this Thursday?

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Speaker 10: Or what?

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Speaker 5: Pretty fired up for that?

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Speaker 4: I'm even more fired up for UFC three nineteen and

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Speaker 4: Contender Series starts tomorrow. I'll be doing a watch along

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Speaker 4: for that if anyone wants wow Contender series.

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Speaker 2: L T your thoughts on his boyfriending.

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Speaker 1: He's the worst boyfriend I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, you know, I mean a war machine

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Speaker 2: wasn't great to be fair, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Ray Caruth not a good boyfriend right now?

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Speaker 1: Boyfriend? All right?

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Speaker 2: For Long Island Luke and LT i'm BC. Thank you

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02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:55,560
Speaker 2: very much for joining us. Luke Thomas, do you have

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Speaker 2: any special three nineteen content this week? For the people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna be doing a watch along

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Speaker 1: for the full thing, the full main card on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'll have I think I'm working on a uh there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of shit going on now, but working on

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Speaker 1: a bit of a breakdown for that. I'll definitely have

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Speaker 1: one after the fight. So yeah, stay tuned. A lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff coming your way.

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Speaker 2: If they ever asked you nicely, would you attend Just

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Speaker 2: Bleed Radio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, shout out those mouth don't get fed though.

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Speaker 2: You know, Danger Mouse and David Sandin of Expensive Women Fame.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's all we got. We love you guys.

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Speaker 2: Take care of yourself, take care of it up here. Uh,

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Speaker 2: that's it, the end of the show. See you later.