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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you. Paul selling Back with us considered to be

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Speaker 1: one of the foremost spiritual channellers working today. In his

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Speaker 1: breakthrough works of channel literature, including I Am the Word

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Speaker 1: and Resurrection, he has recorded an extraordinary program of personal

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Speaker 1: and planetary evolution as human kind awakens to its own

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Speaker 1: divine nature. Who's born in New York City, Paul received

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Speaker 1: his master's degree from Yale. A spiritual experience back in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven left him clairvoyant. I'll have him explained

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Speaker 1: that served on the faculty of NYU for twenty five years,

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Speaker 1: directed the graduate writing program at Goddard College, offers channeled

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Speaker 1: workshops internationally. His website is linked up at Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast am dot com. His latest work Resurrection a channel

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Speaker 1: text and Paul, welcome back. How have you been. I've

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Speaker 1: been well. Thanks for having me back. Still out there

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Speaker 1: in Maui. I'm on Mauie. Yeah, how's the weather. It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It always is, isn't it. Yeah, it really is super

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Speaker 1: tell us about that event that happened in eighty seven. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was I was twenty five years old. I think

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Speaker 1: I had been clean and sober a couple of months,

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Speaker 1: maybe two or three. I was out of Yale. I'd

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Speaker 1: been raised an atheist, and I was I heard that

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Speaker 1: there was this thing happening. People were calling the harmonic convergence,

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Speaker 1: and people are going to be waking up. And I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: if there was a god or something you might call God,

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Speaker 1: and I was beginning to think there might be, why

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Speaker 1: somebody had given me a crystal in a mantra, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, you needed those things to wake up. But

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Speaker 1: I really went up with real sincerity, I think in

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Speaker 1: allow and to know. And I ended up having an

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Speaker 1: experience of energy moving through my body. It sort of

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Speaker 1: spontaneous Condelini awakening. I don't know what it was, you know.

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Speaker 1: I always think maybe I was just hyperventilating and I

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Speaker 1: was just ready for something. But I started seeing little

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Speaker 1: lights around people after that, like fireflies, and that was

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Speaker 1: beginning of a passage that's really gone on for the

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Speaker 1: last thirty five years. It's never really stopped. I still

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Speaker 1: think that I'm developing. And I think that was what

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Speaker 1: it took for somebody like me, who was sort of

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Speaker 1: I think it took an experience like that for me

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Speaker 1: in a tangible way. And in some ways that's the

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Speaker 1: their readers. Was it like an epiphany for you? No,

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Speaker 1: ended up hearing a voice telling me to get my

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Speaker 1: And that was really the first voice. And when I

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Speaker 1: don't write a word of the I sit in a chair,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a radio, so I'm speaking the books. The

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Speaker 1: and that's about it. So the books come out fully formed.

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Speaker 1: front of people that have to convene. Paul who are

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Speaker 1: the spirit guides that you tap into. Well, they call

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Speaker 1: themselves teachers. They say, we are who you become when

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Speaker 1: And I don't care how eloquent I might be. I'm

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Speaker 1: not capable of closing my eyes and dictating all these

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Speaker 1: this point. They're very consistent. The teachings are very consistent.

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Speaker 1: I don't really think that they've contradicted themselves yet in

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Speaker 1: have our best interests at heart, our personal interests and

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Speaker 1: been misled. It's funny. They've been loving and consistent, and

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Speaker 1: who taps into these spirit guides, and if you've not

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Speaker 1: heard them before, you're in for something very fascinating. And Paul,

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Speaker 1: a simple question from folks. Right. Well, you know they

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Speaker 1: hearing my guides, that's one station. If i'm reading for

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Speaker 1: hear her or the people in her life that she

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Speaker 1: so you're no longer scrambling to get you're moving to

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Speaker 1: what has been for you personally, Paul, the most satisfying

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