WEBVTT - Ep. 165: Whole as Hell 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is me eater podcast coming in you shirtless, severely 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:18.599 bitten and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You can't 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:34.559 predict anything. How's it going, guys? Yo? When we got 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.760 up here, we're doing a thing called sound check, and 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.000 we found out that well, Jimmy Dorn was all excited 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.559 about Eddie Vetter and him jumping around up here right there. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:51.760 But more important than that is who Denie. Who Deny 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.040 was on this stage was right about here two times. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.200 My brother always likes to talk about how who Deny died? Where? 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.800 Who Denie fell? That? Do you guys know this? He 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.240 felt that he could like clench his stomach and withstand 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.960 any blow, and some kid was like, well, I'll try 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:14.000 it and killed him man like hit him. He did. Well, 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.520 we got what we were discussing that. We thought you 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.839 were part of the conversation, but you obviously weren't listening 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:24.000 to us. The stage manager told us that, yes, that happened, 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.280 but that's not what killed him. Yeah, it did. It 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.199 rupture his appendence. He tried to do a trick after 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.880 that in a water tank right to get through his act. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.920 He couldn't get through his act, went back, wouldn't go 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.759 to the hospital or something like that, and died. Wasn't 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.200 this stage we should exactly he died and they said 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.360 they cut out they cut out a beam under the 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.640 stage that's still cut from his act in like nive 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:56.160 or more theater. Oh my introductions, um the Lavin Eagle, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:07.440 thank you, and uh Jimmy Dorn from Belltown Pizza, he's 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:14.040 been on the show. If if you wanna, if you 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:20.840 want to patronize Belltown Pizza under Jimmy Dorn's command your time, No, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.720 then you have a lot a long time to patronize 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.760 Jimmy Doran's pizza restaurant. Hopefully not that much longer. How 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:34.720 many years you've been at Belltown sixteen and then there's seventeen. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.840 But yeah, I've been running it for owning it for 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:43.040 fifteen and then uh yeah, hopefully winding down. So he 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.000 I told him he doesn't even if he doesn't say 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.320 anything tonight, that's all that I told him. He doesn't 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.280 ever say anything. We just wanted to be represented by 0:02:49.320 --> 0:03:00.160 a generalist, seattleite outdoorsman. This guy he likes he likes 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.480 to catch salmon, he likes to shoot at deer, he 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.440 likes to root and like like every dude I know 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.639 in Seattle, like every guy in Seattle. He's like, well, yeah, 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.240 but I like the Seahawks a long time ago. Oh 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:17.520 I did. I like the Seahawks when they sucked, but 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.080 we've been very fortunate they don't suck anymore. My favorite story, 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.400 I think is when you tell him about Jimmy's turkey hunt. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.960 How like overnight he became an expert turkey hunter because 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.760 you guys walked up on some turkeys one time. That's 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.120 a good story. We were actually driving back from a 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:35.880 set in the morning where we had sat out and 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.760 froze our asses off and didn't see a thing. And 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.920 we were two weeks into the turkey season, and I 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.600 believe the guide took us to a place where everything 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:48.120 had been shot and our guide, uh was We were 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:49.720 just literally driving back and he's like, hey, I just 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.000 want to check this little sliver Republic. And we were 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.160 just taking a meandering route through this one little sliver 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.480 around the Colville area, and we came around a corner 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.160 and there was literally eight tom's in the road and 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.680 we basically jumped out of the truck and shot him 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.080 and we got a tax. He's like, what's the heart 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.880 about this. Yeah, it always happens that way. I didn't 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.680 really call it a hunt. I called it more of 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:21.760 a shoeing. Get it gets a good way. And then 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:30.640 uh are very on Sam London? If you Sam? Sam 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.839 writes about all Sam writes about all kinds of stuff 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.440 for us? What's that your people are up top? I 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:42.880 don't know. The guys don't matter. Oh yeah, tell where 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.599 you're from. Yeah, I'd like to consider myself a generalist, 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.520 yadelite hunter all day carrying Montana. You quit moved? Yeah, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.520 I quitnt moved, but I did grow up on Wipy Island, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:57.240 live in Washington until I was twenty two. And then uh, 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.040 April Bokey, who's not only not she's not even in 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:10.160 the damn country? What what's the town? You know? You like? 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.320 Tell where you're from? And then how you always apologize 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:17.520 about it? Yeah, but I always say, don't tell anybodybody? Sorry, 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:25.160 what don't tell anybody? Yeah? Nothing yet it's surrean, don't 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:26.960 tell anyone. So now you even told everyone and everyone 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.480 knows to. People want to say hi to So happy anniversary. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.679 We have Ross and Megan Sharp. You guys here, all right, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.719 there's a bunch of like there's a bunch of gas. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.560 There's a bunch of people you would know from the show. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.880 Tommy Edson's here, he's been on that show. Tony Cola Ross, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.919 he's been on the show. Greg Blaskovich has been on 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.360 the show. I think my friend Bowman's here. I never 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:55.760 let him come on. Um and then down from joint 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.720 bass Lewis McCord, we have Seth Wheeler, who I met earlier, 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.320 So him and his teammate are here. Good dudes been 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.480 in and out of war zones for a long time now. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.880 As we were just discussing and um and then I 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.800 used to kind of be I was like a temporary 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.000 seatlite uh And I got all nostalgic here because we 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:16.560 rented a how's it air It's like a it's an Airbnb, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.080 but it's more like a hotel. I feel like it's 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:24.240 uh like an apartment building department which looks down on 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.599 my main most important squid jigging spot. And it got 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:33.039 super nostalgic about that. Um Man, I didn't realize how 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.719 much I was gonna miss it. I moved in August, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:39.000 and I got to thinking about razor clams, jigging squid 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:40.760 and the thing I like most. And this is why 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:46.279 I don't trust anyone in this audience. It's because when 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.120 I lived here, I discovered that you guys are sitting 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:56.720 on the continents greatest yellow perch fishery. Now, don't do that. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.440 Don't do that, because I'm telling you, me and my 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.799 little boy hit it hard and we never once saw 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:08.359 a serious perch fisherman on that lake. And you know 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.800 the lake I'm talking about, it's a big gass lake. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.400 And and as you catch fish, cyclones of perch come 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.320 up with the one you're reeling in. It's unbelievable. And people, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:26.880 because you guys are steelhead and salmon snobs, I had 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.640 to I had like defend myself constantly as a perch 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:35.120 fisherman from Michigan, but a guy from Oregon with a 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.240 boat so that we could get out there and fish together. Yeah, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.160 our body had to drive up with a boat from 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.280 Portland to take us perch fish in the time. That 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:47.080 guy that he ate his first ever small mouth bass 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:51.360 on Lake Washington in that bass boat, remember the spark 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.240 bash We fished perch out of that um that that 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.040 was Matt Elliott's Matt Elliott Special basketball. He came up 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.120 to fish bass, but I've filled his little live all 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.280 up the perch. Well, they haven't opened the socky season 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.760 for such a damn long time that maybe people should 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.560 just get into perch instead. Yeah, what is what is? Uh? 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.000 When was the last time that that wasn't six? I believe, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.720 So there's no sock fishery. No, they haven't come back 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.520 in the number of seas the last time. The last 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.920 time it was open, my dad and I ran our 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.640 boat down from Whidby through the locks through Lake Union 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.960 into Lake Washington fish stock for a couple of days 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.560 and then went all the way back. It's crazy when 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.920 that when that, I hope it happens again someday because 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.959 it's such a ship show. It's it's amazing to watch. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.800 It looks like you'd walk all the way across the 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.320 lake from boat to boat, like canoes next to yachts, 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:47.320 next to like drift boats to people are mostly trolling, okay, um, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.200 but I don't know. I imagine you could jig them too, 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.480 because in the Fraser we used to line up with 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.240 like bouncing betties and then twenty ft leaders and then 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:59.560 go through In philosophy right right Washington You know, people 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.800 always talk about how soccer I don't don't eat, don't 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.640 grab stuff that people always phlosoph the But but we 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.960 troll uh a big flasher with a bare red hook 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:13.080 behind it. Yeah, no, they'll bite the hammer that bare 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:17.120 red octopus hook like size too. That's legal in the snow. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.200 You can do that here. Yeah, you're not snagging. They 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.520 eat it. Yeah, we we weren't allowed because they would 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.920 eat a bear hook, but it was illegal in BC. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:25.680 So we had to put like a little tuft of green. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.000 Lot of dumb laws in b C. Did you have 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.640 to pinch your bar? There's a lot of dumb wall 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.120 laws in Washington two to play fair, yeah, but this 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.280 they got some wicked laws that she was just telling 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.840 us about it. Explain about if you're if you're not 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.600 a resident, you can't Yeah this is recent, but if 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.520 you're a non resident of British Columbia you can't fish 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.680 on weekends in the Skina system. Were on several classified rivers. Yeah, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.840 when I fished the Bulkley, I had to pay forty 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.640 bucks a day for Thursday and Friday, and then they 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.640 kicked me off and we had to keep on driving. Yeah, 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.400 the majority of the residents actually don't support it. It's 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.400 a long story and it's very political, but it was 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.160 the Guide movement that pushed that, not us the guy, 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.400 because if you're fishing with the guide, you can fish weekends. Yeah, 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.360 and I don't guide anymore, so don't don't point at me. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.600 But it isn't there aren't there some streams that are 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.800 completely closed to like yeah, actually, there there are rivers 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.120 that are BC resident only. So it's not it's not 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.880 just Canade. There are yeah, like the Talkla. Yeah, um, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.240 but even someone from Alberta can't fish the Talkla. No, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.400 you've got to be a BC resident. Can you imagine 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.959 trying to pass a lot like that in the United States? No, Max, 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:30.199 we believe in American rights. Yeah, yeah, told all these 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:34.040 people they can't come fish the Madison. Uh, Sam, while 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.840 you can you break down the thing I told you 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.560 to break down that that's happening here in Washington. Which 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.880 thing was that? You've got three things you gotta break down. 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.520 This is the first one about how the bill that 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.440 will never pass, but Washington's backpack in the example in 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.960 the proposed Yeah, this is something I just read about 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:56.600 this week that there's legislation in the Washington State legislature. Uh, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.320 that they're proposing to have what's broadly been taught about 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.400 is the backpack tax and hunting fishing world, which was basically, 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:10.600 have people who enjoy the benefits of what we as 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.120 hunters and anglers pay for with our excise taxes through 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.439 the Pittman Robertson Act and the Dinghill Johnson Act. Um. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.679 So what they're proposing is to have a tax on 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.600 outdoor equipment over two hundred dollars, you know in in 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.640 Washington state. No, no, no, no, two tents of one, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.839 but you would be exempted from said tax if you show, 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.160 if you could display a hunting or fishing license. Because 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:40.040 there I think it's a damn good idea. Yeah, I 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:44.320 am completely supportive of because you've already paid ten tax 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.040 on a bunch of your equipment and so now other 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.120 people are gonna pony up and it goes into the 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.760 wildlife fund. Yeah, it's great. It's great. And in Washington, 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.600 there's a hell of a lot more people who are 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.200 enjoying looking at wildlife and just that we're just enjoying 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.319 the idea of wildlife. There's a hell of lot more 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.920 than them than there are of us. Now, I haven't 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.800 seen any polling data, but I'm gonna venture to guess 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.839 that this will not be dead on arrival. That's a 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:12.200 good idea. You know a thing I want to mention. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.080 I should have mentioned it. I should have pivoted when 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:18.760 you guys were talking about uh, bear hooks. I just 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.480 want to throw this out because I was just we 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.960 just spent the weekend in Saint Martin, down in the 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.360 St Martin in the um, creeping for for a birthday party. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.560 And I flew down with like hooks in a carry 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:35.160 on bag. But down there you cannot carry on to 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:39.360 a plane a fish hook, and up until very recently 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.679 in Canada you couldn't carry on your fishing, like your line, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.200 and in Australia still you cannot carry line on because 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.600 you're gonna gear itt someone. I've had to gut reels 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:53.959 in airplanes. But but shoes, strings, neckties are fun. That's 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.120 like with the hook, because either are like small hooks. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:57.440 I was like, the worst you could do is you 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.840 could get it in someone's clothes and then they would 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:06.080 be like agitated trying to get it out until yeah, 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.040 they'd find a way to crimp the bar, and then 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.199 but every already lost their leather man at t s 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:12.640 a check and so they wouldn't be able to crimp 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.760 the bar. And then you'd like take advantage of the 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.000 confusion and fly the plane somewhere. But I'm like, that's 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.439 the case. You shouldn't be able to bring gum on 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:21.920 because that ship is annoying when it gets in your 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.160 clothes too. So it's like I could forgot. They want 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.360 to know, they want to touch on is you know 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.920 how everybody knows, Like like I'm sure everyone knows the 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:34.839 story of the guy in Colorado not too long ago 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:41.480 that's strangled the mountain lion like that that that story 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.360 and no fault of the guy that did it, like 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.200 he he didn't brag it up. But that story has 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:50.400 gotten less and less interesting. It's now it's now that 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:57.760 it was a three month old, emaciated, twenty four pound 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:05.480 orphan mountain lion kitten. That's like the media loved that story. 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.240 If you think the lion attacked the jogger, the jogger 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.400 attacked the lion instead of the other way around, like 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.840 it's been reported. It was a kid. And again, the 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:15.880 dude didn't brag it up. I'm not saying he like 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.120 sold it to something that wasn't. But the story has 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.160 just and has just gotten less interesting. There's less reporting 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.400 on it. I haven't heard a word about it. Pretty 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.840 soon it's going to be that he strangled a therapy 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:35.480 dog rescue puppy. That's the only that's the only thing left. Uh, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.920 you know, Uh, there's a guy and I had to 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:39.560 coax this out of it. At first, this guy didn't 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.800 want me to even say what stated happened in but 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.640 then then he came. He warmed up to me saying 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:50.120 what stated happening. But as you know, Washington um did 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.600 a very naughty thing years ago and made it that 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.840 you're you're not allowed to use hounds to pursue mountain lions, 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.200 but you still held outlines. Let's check this out. Though. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.400 There's a dude in this state. I don't want to 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.120 say where he is, but he he's careful to say 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.800 that he did not pioneer this technique where he's been 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.400 going out here. We we exchanged some emails. He's been 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.840 going out and cutting mountain lion tracks in the snow. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.040 So he does the same way like a houndsman does. Wait, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.960 so the right amount of snow covers on the ground, 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.600 and he goes out and cuts a track, and he 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.400 just follows that track and wait till things look right, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.360 and he sits down and uses a predator call, and 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.840 then he follows the track and uses the predator call. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:30.680 And he just got a nice big time doing that. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:36.080 Hundred sixty pounds. That's awesome, dude, that's awesome. That's a 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:42.880 tricky hunting man. Yeah, man, I like that guy. Yeah, 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.240 we're also working in the difficult system that you get 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.280 placed in. I remember that happening when they banned hunting 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.800 with hunt lions with hounds. So he, uh, life gave 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.320 him lemons and he made a lemonade. Lemonade out of it. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.440 A hot tip guy roared in about this. I might 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.560 be the only guy that's gonna appreciate this. I previewed 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.040 it with you guys. Maybe you know what, how many 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.400 people in here run a stand up freezer instead of 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:14.800 a chest because it's a smart audience. This guy, this 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.040 guy you was writing in that you know how you 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:18.680 get all your stuff in there and then it all 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.240 falls out when you open the door. He buys those 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:26.120 spring loaded um curtain rods and crams everything in there, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.360 and it puts a springloaded curtain rod in there to 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.040 hold his to hold the ship in there so don't 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.840 come out prevent the meat. How does he do it? 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.800 Does he hold the one arm in and then try 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.000 to adjust him. Maybe he has his wife ELTI out. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.360 I don't know what he does. But like some people 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.960 get all excited about, like you know, the iPhone ten, 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.320 I hear ship like that, and I'm like, man, that's solid, 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.720 that's a thing. That's the real new tech. Quickly, I 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.640 want to touch on too. A guy I was chatting 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.040 with recently was talking about ice fishing, and he had 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.960 the observation that ice fishing it's just a place where 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:10.480 people go to do whatever they already normally do well 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.600 even better. Whereas like guys that like to talk, they 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.280 just talk better, and more guys that like to drink, 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.840 they just drink more. People like to fish fish more. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.440 And that concerns me because that means that my kids 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:30.080 are only good at getting wet and cold because they 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:35.480 do that even more. Out there, Um northing to touch on. Honest, 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:37.280 we've talked about this. I'm gonna I'm gonna put it 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.760 to bed. After this, But if you don't mind, for 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:45.320 like the nineteenth time breaking down your advice your marriage 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:52.040 advice thing, because there's two final thoughts I have about it. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:53.760 But but I want you to tell everybody to get 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.919 everybody up to speed. I just wish I remember to 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.240 use it as often as you asked me to tell 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.400 everybody about the advice because now, and like you, I'm 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.240 like man last week, that would have been really good 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.120 to bring up the one to ten uh scale game. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:11.280 Um so I actually stole it from Wayne Dyer, who 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.520 my dad used to not really force his vast to 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.200 make us listen to Wayne Dyre tapes. Mostly I would 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.919 just fall asleep, but every now and then you pick 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.600 up something. But he's got a thing where if you're 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:25.000 in an argument, most arguments with spouses, um really aren't 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.120 that all that important about like like who's gonna win 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.920 it or who's gonna be right. It's just you really 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.320 just want to get through it. So his his way 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.679 to do that is to stop. And everybody assigns of 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:41.560 value to how important they think the argument is and 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.040 how important like having it go their way is on 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.320 a scale one to ten, and so you just stop 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.040 the argument and everybody just throws a number out there, 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.439 and so if it's a really not that important, it's 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.440 a two, you throw your two, and for the other 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.000 person they might throw it eight or nine, and you 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.760 just stop and they get to go on and and 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.040 you go of their direction, right, and it's just an 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.439 easy way to quit arguing and move on. And you 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.760 said a lot of times it's worked for you because 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:11.159 we've been it's been improving our marriage. Man um, I 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.800 may be honest, I make you explain this every week. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.560 This is the last time you're gonna explain it. But 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.239 there's two thoughts that came in because people have been 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.600 writing a lot about marriage. Honest is, I don't know 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.600 what you stole from someone, but it's gonna call your thing, 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.720 your marriage savor thing. And one guy is in a 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.719 he writes him where he's in a fight with his 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.800 wife because she likes to put vinegar in the soap 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.200 in the dishwasher, and he's arguing that if if dish 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.200 soap needed vinegar, they would just put it in there 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:45.000 in the factory. So what's weird about it is he's like, 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:49.080 but the trick worked because like, I actually didn't really 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:50.879 care once I thought about it, and I threw a 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.719 three and she threw like a nine, so she wins. 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.399 But then he sits down and writes me a diet 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:01.639 tribe like this, it's blaming how stupid it is to 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:06.920 put vinegar and soap. Another guy rolled in about he 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.399 he didn't even get into what his fight was, but 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.840 he gets in a big fight and he's like he 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.480 wants to do Nice's trick to get out of the fight, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.360 and he throws a two and then gets in trouble 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:29.000 for how little he cares. So it's like, yes, that 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:33.359 would absolutely be The biggest concern is underestimating somebody else's anger. 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.000 So if I think if it's a two and you 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:38.960 think it's a nine, I might just be digging my 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.400 hole even deeper. Were fighting about it at that point, 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:49.760 So you don't care ashes, Um, what else you wanna 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:57.520 talk about? Oh, irrational behaviors? Where this vinegar in the dishwasher? Account? 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.200 Is that? No? Because I don't really know about that. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:01.679 That might be like a great idea. I don't know. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.960 Here's a hot tip vinegar is um. I've been frying 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:07.800 a lot in the house lately because I got my 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.240 bitch in New hood over my stove, you know, and 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:15.600 I'm always blasting, I'm frying, and it's it's working, but 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:19.520 it's still not like completely diffusing all you know, grease, 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.280 and I think it's it is. But what we do afterwards, 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:27.280 or I should say, my wife Jennifer does, is um, 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.040 I don't know, maybe a cup or two of some 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.560 vinegar with a splash of lavender oil and to send 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:33.679 a pan and throws that on the stovetop and just 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.240 lets it simmer and kind of disappear, and that just 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:41.199 dials the house right back in. Yeah, very nice problem. 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.959 That will improve your marriage. Yeah, because I remember when 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.199 we used to live in a we used to live 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.840 in a small apartment and being from Michigan, I fry 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.560 a lot of fish and my wife be like, how 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:55.280 is it even the bath towels smell like fried fish. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.320 That's the one thing I wouldn't want to smell like 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.919 fried fish. Yeah, you get out of the show. Everything 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.200 else is fair game. But but the irrational behavior there, 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:07.639 and I don't mean to be penning. This is not 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.040 like a guy for this isn't like, you know, like 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.920 a guy versus wife deal. But this is a guy 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:17.439 wrote in where he was complaining about just coping with 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:21.919 irrational things. Where he kills a deer, guts it, and 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:26.800 then rinses the chess cavity out with I don't know 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:28.640 if it was creek water or creek water. I didn't 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.120 see the actual body of water, but rinses it out 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:37.280 with creek water, and now she refuses to eat the 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:41.040 deer for fear that it has been contaminated by creek water. 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:47.000 And he wanted advice. I have no advice, but in 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:49.760 that like, in that situation, you can only point out 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:55.879 other activities, like like other things that seem irrational that 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:57.600 you need to cope with. And I think that the 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.399 reason this happens so much in the outdoor for suits, 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.760 is because you're just dealing with so many unknowns and 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:09.720 untested things. Right, it's just and practices to get handed 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.520 down over time, and things that aren't really you can't 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.440 replicate it in the laboratory, like certain orders you might 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.800 encounter that you could never make. So I think that 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:23.200 it breeds like breeds uncertainty. So do you guys feel 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.600 like have you encountered in your personal lives where you've 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:31.520