1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,977 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,337 --> 00:00:22,497 Speaker 2: Hey everybody. On this episode of the Buck Brief, we 5 00:00:22,537 --> 00:00:26,977 Speaker 2: have Liz Wheeler with us. She is a host TV 6 00:00:27,137 --> 00:00:31,377 Speaker 2: and podcast and has a book out just out this week, 7 00:00:31,657 --> 00:00:36,937 Speaker 2: Hide Your Children, exposing the Marxists behind the attack on 8 00:00:37,017 --> 00:00:40,017 Speaker 2: America's kids. Liz, great to have you back. Good to 9 00:00:40,017 --> 00:00:40,897 Speaker 2: see you, Buck. 10 00:00:40,937 --> 00:00:42,617 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it. 11 00:00:42,697 --> 00:00:45,577 Speaker 2: So tell me about the book. What are the Marxists 12 00:00:45,617 --> 00:00:47,217 Speaker 2: doing to our kids? What's going on here? 13 00:00:47,617 --> 00:00:49,737 Speaker 1: You know, I put that word in the title intentionally 14 00:00:49,737 --> 00:00:51,777 Speaker 1: because I knew people would zero in on it, and 15 00:00:51,817 --> 00:00:54,137 Speaker 1: I think it's important that we do listen. This book 16 00:00:54,137 --> 00:00:55,977 Speaker 1: has been more than a year in the making. I've 17 00:00:55,977 --> 00:00:59,537 Speaker 1: been down in the deep dark hole of research to 18 00:00:59,617 --> 00:01:02,337 Speaker 1: figure out whether all these attacks that we're seeing on 19 00:01:02,377 --> 00:01:05,297 Speaker 1: our kids, whether this is new, whether this is a 20 00:01:05,297 --> 00:01:07,857 Speaker 1: concerted effort. Where it came from. I think a lot 21 00:01:07,857 --> 00:01:10,857 Speaker 1: of parents saw for the first time during COVID when 22 00:01:10,897 --> 00:01:12,377 Speaker 1: their kids were on zoom school. You know, you just 23 00:01:12,377 --> 00:01:15,097 Speaker 1: peaked over your kids shoulder and saw critical race theory 24 00:01:15,137 --> 00:01:18,697 Speaker 1: and trans ideology and moral relativism, and kind of wondered, 25 00:01:19,497 --> 00:01:22,297 Speaker 1: where did this come from? Why now is this a 26 00:01:22,297 --> 00:01:25,497 Speaker 1: concerted effort? And I dug into this question and found that, 27 00:01:25,897 --> 00:01:27,937 Speaker 1: you know, it is a concerted effort, but it's definitely 28 00:01:27,977 --> 00:01:30,137 Speaker 1: not new. The left, of course, has been trying to 29 00:01:30,177 --> 00:01:34,017 Speaker 1: re engineer our society for a long time, about a century, 30 00:01:34,097 --> 00:01:39,177 Speaker 1: and unfortunately they've been pretty successful at subverting capturing our 31 00:01:39,337 --> 00:01:43,297 Speaker 1: major foundational cultural institutions. They've captured the media, they've captured 32 00:01:43,297 --> 00:01:46,217 Speaker 1: the education system sadly, they've captured a lot of religious 33 00:01:46,257 --> 00:01:48,977 Speaker 1: institutions too. They've captured the law, and they have their 34 00:01:49,017 --> 00:01:53,097 Speaker 1: sites set on the nuclear family, particularly children. So what 35 00:01:53,137 --> 00:01:55,137 Speaker 1: I do in this book is first I name the 36 00:01:55,217 --> 00:01:59,177 Speaker 1: names of the people and the organizations behind the attack 37 00:01:59,297 --> 00:02:02,097 Speaker 1: on our kids, and then I offer a solution that 38 00:02:02,177 --> 00:02:04,217 Speaker 1: I will tell you buck is different than what the 39 00:02:04,257 --> 00:02:08,297 Speaker 1: Republican Party offers for how we recapture the institutions and 40 00:02:08,337 --> 00:02:09,217 Speaker 1: protect our kids. 41 00:02:10,377 --> 00:02:13,857 Speaker 2: So why have they been so successful in this? In 42 00:02:13,897 --> 00:02:16,897 Speaker 2: your mind? I mean, obviously institutional capture is a major 43 00:02:17,457 --> 00:02:21,337 Speaker 2: part of it, but generally people's children, that's the thing 44 00:02:21,417 --> 00:02:24,577 Speaker 2: that they are the most and rightly so. The most 45 00:02:24,737 --> 00:02:27,817 Speaker 2: protective of and you would think that would be the 46 00:02:27,897 --> 00:02:33,137 Speaker 2: hardest place for Marxist indoctrination to go to the extremes 47 00:02:33,137 --> 00:02:34,577 Speaker 2: that we've seen. I mean, I know it's been happening 48 00:02:34,617 --> 00:02:36,777 Speaker 2: for a long time in different ways. But it's one 49 00:02:36,777 --> 00:02:39,017 Speaker 2: thing to train your kids, or you know, for someone 50 00:02:39,017 --> 00:02:41,697 Speaker 2: to train your kids like America is not a great country, 51 00:02:41,697 --> 00:02:44,657 Speaker 2: which they've clearly been doing. It's another thing to say, oh, 52 00:02:44,697 --> 00:02:46,177 Speaker 2: you're a twelve year old, maybe you're not a boy, 53 00:02:46,217 --> 00:02:46,897 Speaker 2: maybe you're a girl. 54 00:02:46,937 --> 00:02:47,457 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 55 00:02:47,577 --> 00:02:48,897 Speaker 2: It feels like it's escalated. 56 00:02:49,017 --> 00:02:51,497 Speaker 1: Well, it's certainly escalating. I think we can. We can 57 00:02:51,537 --> 00:02:54,177 Speaker 1: see that plainly before our very eyes. The reason they're 58 00:02:54,217 --> 00:02:57,417 Speaker 1: so successful now isn't because their attacks are new. It 59 00:02:57,457 --> 00:03:00,257 Speaker 1: isn't because they've gotten more extreme. The reason they're successful 60 00:03:00,297 --> 00:03:03,017 Speaker 1: is because the Republican Party, which is supposed to serve 61 00:03:03,057 --> 00:03:06,337 Speaker 1: as a bulwark against the bad ideas of the Democrat Party, 62 00:03:06,697 --> 00:03:10,857 Speaker 1: hasn't fought back successfully. We've willingly rendered a lot of 63 00:03:10,857 --> 00:03:14,937 Speaker 1: these institutions which parents do inherently trust. We typically trust 64 00:03:14,937 --> 00:03:18,017 Speaker 1: our children's doctors, we typically trust the CDC, We typically 65 00:03:18,097 --> 00:03:22,097 Speaker 1: trust our children's actors, We typically trust our churches. These 66 00:03:22,097 --> 00:03:25,897 Speaker 1: are institutions that have a long history in American culture 67 00:03:25,937 --> 00:03:29,137 Speaker 1: of being trustworthy institutions, which is one of the reasons 68 00:03:29,137 --> 00:03:32,937 Speaker 1: that the Marxists subverted these particular institutions. But the Republican 69 00:03:32,977 --> 00:03:36,897 Speaker 1: Party made a mistake, maybe fifty sixty years ago, in 70 00:03:37,057 --> 00:03:41,497 Speaker 1: forgetting and neglecting to define what our agenda is. There's 71 00:03:41,577 --> 00:03:44,297 Speaker 1: oftentimes a joke in Washington, DC that the Democrats always 72 00:03:44,337 --> 00:03:47,697 Speaker 1: vote in lockstep. They're so cohesive they never have a dissenter, 73 00:03:47,937 --> 00:03:50,297 Speaker 1: and Republicans over here can't even get our acts together 74 00:03:50,417 --> 00:03:53,017 Speaker 1: enough to get our party to vote on the same thing. 75 00:03:53,497 --> 00:03:55,577 Speaker 1: And we kind of laugh about it. But the reason 76 00:03:55,737 --> 00:03:59,777 Speaker 1: is because Democrats actually have a worldview that they all share. 77 00:04:00,017 --> 00:04:03,297 Speaker 1: They all dislike America, they most of them dislike Christian 78 00:04:03,337 --> 00:04:05,697 Speaker 1: influences in America, and they fundamentally want to change what 79 00:04:05,737 --> 00:04:10,377 Speaker 1: our economy is. Republicans are very good at pointing Outmocrats 80 00:04:10,417 --> 00:04:12,137 Speaker 1: are doing what it's wrong. We're good at pointing out 81 00:04:12,177 --> 00:04:15,657 Speaker 1: critical race theory that's bad, trans ideology that's bad. But 82 00:04:15,737 --> 00:04:19,097 Speaker 1: we've forgotten that we also have to define what's right. 83 00:04:19,497 --> 00:04:23,017 Speaker 1: Because Buck I don't believe in this idea of neutrality. 84 00:04:23,057 --> 00:04:25,897 Speaker 1: I don't believe that you simply have this playing field 85 00:04:25,897 --> 00:04:28,897 Speaker 1: where everyone brings their own values. We are living in 86 00:04:28,897 --> 00:04:33,097 Speaker 1: a nation where either the Democrats beliefs and ideologies prevail 87 00:04:33,537 --> 00:04:37,617 Speaker 1: or ours do, especially in these institutions. And when Republicans 88 00:04:37,617 --> 00:04:39,817 Speaker 1: took a step back fifty or sixty years ago and 89 00:04:39,817 --> 00:04:44,457 Speaker 1: embrace this more libertarian idea that government shouldn't be ordering society, 90 00:04:44,497 --> 00:04:47,857 Speaker 1: it should just be protecting people's rights against violation, what 91 00:04:47,977 --> 00:04:50,057 Speaker 1: happened is the Democrats were like, well, okay, if you're 92 00:04:50,057 --> 00:04:52,297 Speaker 1: not going to control these things, we're going to and 93 00:04:52,377 --> 00:04:53,657 Speaker 1: Republicans just let them. 94 00:04:53,857 --> 00:04:56,177 Speaker 2: Come back with more on this. Liz, I want to 95 00:04:56,217 --> 00:05:01,057 Speaker 2: ask you about this school district in California that suspended 96 00:05:01,097 --> 00:05:04,577 Speaker 2: a kid for five days for misgendering. We'll get into 97 00:05:04,617 --> 00:05:06,617 Speaker 2: that in a second, but first up, my friends, I 98 00:05:06,697 --> 00:05:08,417 Speaker 2: want to talk to you the tone of the Towers Foundation. 99 00:05:08,457 --> 00:05:10,457 Speaker 2: The tune of the Towers Foundation to live on its 100 00:05:10,457 --> 00:05:13,977 Speaker 2: promise to do good and never forget the sacrifices America's 101 00:05:14,017 --> 00:05:16,857 Speaker 2: greatest heroes have made for US, Heroes who risk their 102 00:05:16,897 --> 00:05:19,657 Speaker 2: lives to keep our communities and our country safe. Heroes 103 00:05:19,737 --> 00:05:23,177 Speaker 2: like United States Marine Corps captain and pilot John Jeremy Sachs. 104 00:05:23,577 --> 00:05:27,097 Speaker 2: Captain Sacks sustained fatal injuries when his military aircraft crashed 105 00:05:27,137 --> 00:05:30,377 Speaker 2: during training, killing him and five other service members. 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Donate eleven dollars a month the Tunnel to 116 00:05:56,817 --> 00:05:59,777 Speaker 2: Towers at T two T dot org. That's t the 117 00:05:59,857 --> 00:06:04,337 Speaker 2: number two T dot org. Okay, Liz, So what happened 118 00:06:04,337 --> 00:06:05,617 Speaker 2: in this I mean, these are some of the things 119 00:06:05,697 --> 00:06:09,937 Speaker 2: you deal with in the book. This school district suspended 120 00:06:10,177 --> 00:06:12,697 Speaker 2: kid for misgendering. You got suspended for five days? How 121 00:06:12,737 --> 00:06:13,417 Speaker 2: did that come about? 122 00:06:13,537 --> 00:06:15,457 Speaker 1: Well, listen, this is a perfect example of what I'm 123 00:06:15,457 --> 00:06:18,857 Speaker 1: talking about. The left has declared that it is immoral 124 00:06:19,257 --> 00:06:21,857 Speaker 1: for people to quote unquote misgender. We know that that's 125 00:06:21,857 --> 00:06:24,297 Speaker 1: not a real thing, but they've decided it's immoral, and 126 00:06:24,377 --> 00:06:26,377 Speaker 1: so they are forcing it on other people. They're not 127 00:06:26,417 --> 00:06:28,817 Speaker 1: just deciding that this is a code of ethics that 128 00:06:28,857 --> 00:06:31,217 Speaker 1: they want to live by. They're not just encouraging other 129 00:06:31,217 --> 00:06:34,577 Speaker 1: people to follow it. They are using institutions to enforce 130 00:06:34,937 --> 00:06:38,657 Speaker 1: their beliefs and their ideology. And I challenge Republicans to 131 00:06:38,697 --> 00:06:40,177 Speaker 1: do the same thing. And what I mean by this, 132 00:06:40,257 --> 00:06:42,257 Speaker 1: I don't mean stoop to the level of the Democrats. 133 00:06:42,537 --> 00:06:44,697 Speaker 1: But if we think about the history of public education, 134 00:06:45,137 --> 00:06:48,137 Speaker 1: these school districts that we're talking about, public education only 135 00:06:48,217 --> 00:06:50,897 Speaker 1: became compulsory in the United States in eighteen fifty two, 136 00:06:51,057 --> 00:06:53,537 Speaker 1: not that long ago. Massachusetts was the first state that 137 00:06:53,617 --> 00:06:57,137 Speaker 1: adopted it. And the reason that they adopted public education 138 00:06:57,217 --> 00:06:59,577 Speaker 1: being mandatory is because at the time there were a 139 00:06:59,617 --> 00:07:03,497 Speaker 1: lot of immigrants coming into the United States, particularly Catholic immigrants, 140 00:07:03,737 --> 00:07:07,177 Speaker 1: and the Protestant politicians at the time wanted these children 141 00:07:07,297 --> 00:07:09,857 Speaker 1: to be taught American values so that they would be 142 00:07:10,217 --> 00:07:12,417 Speaker 1: to America first rather than the country of their birth, 143 00:07:12,817 --> 00:07:15,657 Speaker 1: and they wanted them indoctrinated in Protestant beliefs because they 144 00:07:15,657 --> 00:07:18,297 Speaker 1: were Protestant and they didn't want, you know, the ongoing 145 00:07:18,577 --> 00:07:21,697 Speaker 1: battle between Protestants and Catholics. All this being said is 146 00:07:21,737 --> 00:07:25,737 Speaker 1: our education system actually was designed to be an indoctrination center. 147 00:07:26,017 --> 00:07:28,817 Speaker 1: It was designed to teach children right from wrong, not 148 00:07:28,977 --> 00:07:32,217 Speaker 1: just reading, writing, and arithmetic. But somewhere along the way, 149 00:07:32,577 --> 00:07:36,777 Speaker 1: Republicans forgot this, and when we pulled back and surrendered 150 00:07:36,977 --> 00:07:40,697 Speaker 1: our position of power in the educational institutions, the Democrats 151 00:07:40,697 --> 00:07:44,297 Speaker 1: swooped in recognized that it's a perfect place, a perfect 152 00:07:44,337 --> 00:07:47,697 Speaker 1: apparatus to use to brainwash children, and ever since then 153 00:07:47,697 --> 00:07:51,657 Speaker 1: they've been using it to enforce their own morality, which 154 00:07:51,697 --> 00:07:55,097 Speaker 1: is exactly what we're seeing in that school district in California. 155 00:07:55,177 --> 00:07:59,257 Speaker 2: And there's also an effort under way to do more 156 00:07:59,337 --> 00:08:01,417 Speaker 2: now to fight back against this. I mean, Governor Ron 157 00:08:01,457 --> 00:08:03,977 Speaker 2: de Santis has done a lot in the state of Florida. 158 00:08:04,097 --> 00:08:06,297 Speaker 2: Let's start there. What do you think about some of 159 00:08:06,337 --> 00:08:10,017 Speaker 2: the DeSantis' actions when it comes to stopping the indoctrination, 160 00:08:10,417 --> 00:08:15,337 Speaker 2: this sort of Marxist trans ideology stuff and doctrination of children. 161 00:08:15,777 --> 00:08:17,897 Speaker 1: I think he's done a lot of amazing things in Florida. 162 00:08:17,937 --> 00:08:22,177 Speaker 1: And he's set an example for what governing not like 163 00:08:22,257 --> 00:08:27,777 Speaker 1: a libertarian looks like, governing with the idea that there's 164 00:08:27,817 --> 00:08:30,977 Speaker 1: a just authority of government and helping order our society 165 00:08:31,017 --> 00:08:33,777 Speaker 1: towards human flourishing. 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So what do you think we can 203 00:10:21,217 --> 00:10:24,777 Speaker 2: do to build institutions or is that the answer to 204 00:10:24,817 --> 00:10:27,697 Speaker 2: build institutions on our side, or to maybe seize control 205 00:10:27,737 --> 00:10:30,777 Speaker 2: of institutions, school board meetings, things like that that we've 206 00:10:30,817 --> 00:10:34,417 Speaker 2: been seeing in recent years to stop the indoctrination of kids. 207 00:10:34,737 --> 00:10:38,177 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think some of the institutions. While I would 208 00:10:38,257 --> 00:10:40,857 Speaker 1: like to abolish them, take the public school system, it's 209 00:10:40,897 --> 00:10:43,217 Speaker 1: unlikely that will happen, So we need to do what 210 00:10:43,257 --> 00:10:45,457 Speaker 1: we can to take it back. It's going to be 211 00:10:45,497 --> 00:10:48,017 Speaker 1: a thing. Somebody is going to control it. It's up 212 00:10:48,057 --> 00:10:49,737 Speaker 1: to us to decide who that's going to be, whether 213 00:10:49,777 --> 00:10:51,377 Speaker 1: we want to surrender that to the left or whether 214 00:10:51,417 --> 00:10:53,737 Speaker 1: we want to be the ones in control of it. 215 00:10:53,977 --> 00:10:56,857 Speaker 1: And I challenge conservatives listen. I was libertarian leaning when 216 00:10:56,857 --> 00:10:58,217 Speaker 1: I was younger. I think a lot of us were 217 00:10:58,257 --> 00:11:00,577 Speaker 1: because it sounds great. I wish I could be libertarian, 218 00:11:00,857 --> 00:11:03,057 Speaker 1: but it just doesn't work. It leads us to this 219 00:11:03,177 --> 00:11:06,257 Speaker 1: cultural chaos that we are existing in right now. So 220 00:11:06,297 --> 00:11:08,817 Speaker 1: we have to have a cohesive idea of what our 221 00:11:08,857 --> 00:11:12,257 Speaker 1: political agenda is. We have to use the just authority 222 00:11:12,297 --> 00:11:16,057 Speaker 1: of government when necessary to order our society, and yes, 223 00:11:16,097 --> 00:11:21,257 Speaker 1: we have to take back institutions that are influential in 224 00:11:21,297 --> 00:11:25,257 Speaker 1: our children's formation, and we have to be unafraid to 225 00:11:25,337 --> 00:11:28,377 Speaker 1: then indoctrinate our children and what is objectively true and 226 00:11:28,417 --> 00:11:29,257 Speaker 1: good and beautiful. 227 00:11:31,537 --> 00:11:35,697 Speaker 2: Liz, I think that the Republicans could use a wake 228 00:11:35,777 --> 00:11:37,497 Speaker 2: up call on this a little bit. I mean, at 229 00:11:37,497 --> 00:11:41,617 Speaker 2: the national level, is anyone really speaking about this in 230 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:44,657 Speaker 2: a way that you think is moving the needle in 231 00:11:44,697 --> 00:11:48,017 Speaker 2: a positive fashion? I mean, who's doing the most to 232 00:11:48,057 --> 00:11:50,137 Speaker 2: fight against I mean, your book has Hide Your Children, 233 00:11:50,217 --> 00:11:53,817 Speaker 2: exposing the Marxists behind the attack on America's kids. What 234 00:11:53,937 --> 00:11:57,537 Speaker 2: are organizations or what politicians or leaders come to mind 235 00:11:57,537 --> 00:11:59,497 Speaker 2: when I say who's fighting back effectively? 236 00:12:00,137 --> 00:12:02,977 Speaker 1: Well, listen, you know my view on politicians. I dislike 237 00:12:03,057 --> 00:12:05,337 Speaker 1: them all on principle. I think we should be skeptical 238 00:12:05,377 --> 00:12:08,617 Speaker 1: of every single one of them because they're all They're 239 00:12:08,657 --> 00:12:11,097 Speaker 1: all the same, They're all the same type. Politicians are 240 00:12:11,097 --> 00:12:13,017 Speaker 1: a lot of times there for power and for money, 241 00:12:13,257 --> 00:12:17,137 Speaker 1: not there to represent our interests. Governor DeSantis, as I mentioned, 242 00:12:17,177 --> 00:12:21,337 Speaker 1: has done this. He has replaced in doctrination with or 243 00:12:21,377 --> 00:12:25,337 Speaker 1: He's replaced leftist indoctrination with the proper values in many 244 00:12:25,377 --> 00:12:27,537 Speaker 1: venues in Florida. I think he's a good example to 245 00:12:27,617 --> 00:12:30,537 Speaker 1: follow his lead. I always encourage Governor DeSantis to be 246 00:12:30,617 --> 00:12:33,337 Speaker 1: a little more based even than he is. 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