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Speaker 2: and Falcons at the Panthers. And Week fifteen has already

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Speaker 2: been fully loaded with storylines. We had some big games yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Rich and yes on Thursday, I was in Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: with my boys decked out in their Chargers gear to

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Speaker 2: witness one of the most unbelievable games that I've ever

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Speaker 2: seen in my entire life. Raiders score more points than

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Speaker 2: they ever have in any game in their history, Chargers

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Speaker 2: giving up more points than any game in their history,

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Speaker 2: and of course it led to the firing of Brandon

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Speaker 2: Staley and Tom to LESCo as as I've had a

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Speaker 2: theory here, and you know the Chargers organization as I do.

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Speaker 2: The NFL's not happy. The NFL is not happy with

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Speaker 2: the direction of a team. It's one thing when you're

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Speaker 2: playing small town ball in San Diego, but we gifted

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Speaker 2: you Los Angeles. You're six years in in LA. You're

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Speaker 2: not increasing your fan base in LA. The seats are

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Speaker 2: still being filled by fans of the opposing teams. You

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Speaker 2: got a franchise quarterback. You need to get your bleep together.

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Speaker 2: And I think the league has stepped in and made

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Speaker 2: it clear to Dean Spanos, if you can't play the game,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why we have you in LA. We

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Speaker 2: gifted you LA. You didn't have to pay a penny

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Speaker 2: in rent. Do something. Oh, we're gonna take this franchise

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Speaker 2: away from you. And he said, well, they can't do that.

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Speaker 2: They can do whatever they want in the NFL. So

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Speaker 2: I think that this double firing was a blow that

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Speaker 2: was coming down from a bigger source, because you know

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Speaker 2: Dean Spanos, he only does what he's told to do.

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Speaker 2: He's the good soldier for the NFL. But the league

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Speaker 2: can't be happy when you have an LA franchise down

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Speaker 2: forty two to nothing against a team that hadn't scored

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Speaker 2: an offensive touchdown in three weeks on national TV. The

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Speaker 2: league is demanding some big changes for that Chargers organization.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chargers have been just I mean, to be

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Speaker 3: perfectly frank, they've been terrible since they've moved to Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: They've only had two playoff appearances. They've only had one

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Speaker 3: playoff win since they've made their home in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: And they've had franchise quarterbacks the whole way. Philip Rivers

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Speaker 3: was replaced by Justin Herbert. And when you have talent

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Speaker 3: at quarterback like that and you have zero ability to

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Speaker 3: get beyond the divisional round of the postseason, it's a problem.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a huge problem. Actually, they have zero playoff

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Speaker 2: Chargers, look, they do have one. They had the one

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Speaker 2: playoff win when they were playing at the Soccer Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Look at six years into their LA experiment, right, and

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Speaker 2: they again the league gifted in LA. By the way,

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Speaker 2: they still owe six hundred and fifty million dollars to

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Speaker 2: the other owners. Remember, they extended what was supposed to

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Speaker 2: They're still waiting for that first payment. They have little tolerance.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to play small ball when you're in

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Speaker 2: markets for their thirty two teams, two in New York,

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Speaker 3: The Rams aren't doing it either, right. The Rams are

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Speaker 3: footing the bill for the whole LA experience. Exactly what

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Speaker 3: footed the whole bill. Yes, so when you have somebody

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Speaker 2: Now, I think he ruffled.

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Speaker 3: Stan Kronky did a lot of feathers when he forced

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to go down the path of conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine, uh, yeah, there's one hundred percent You

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Speaker 2: and I know how this works. Dean is going to

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Speaker 2: We know how close they are. But the idea of

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Speaker 2: he's had some hits and misses, but remember he catered

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Speaker 2: they do have a franchise quarterback. They need to get

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Speaker 2: their bleep together. So well, we'll have plenty of this,

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Speaker 2: a lot of things going on, some big games yesterday.

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Speaker 2: They're on the road against the bad Patriots, who did

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Speaker 2: just hasn't been working. I mean, I know they were

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Speaker 2: level of frustration that at this point of the season,

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Speaker 2: with just four games to go, the Chiefs really don't

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Speaker 2: have their stuff together right now. Rich, No, they don't,

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Speaker 2: And are they going to get this stuff together or

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Speaker 2: is this a team that's going to be a first

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Speaker 3: Huge pass down the middle to Noah Gray by the

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Speaker 3: So they're getting closer to the red zone. They're in

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Speaker 2: So off to a good start in Foxborough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But to comment on the Chiefs, look, we saw

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Speaker 3: Mahomes is getting found out. Right, He's into his third

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Speaker 2: They went on a huge.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the problem here for Mahomes is typically

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Speaker 3: come December, the Chiefs are playing some of the best

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs are still playing just a poor offensive football

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Speaker 3: that has never been the case. They're usually a team

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean right now. Mahomes comes into the week

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Speaker 2: He's just getting frustrated that it's not coming together. Well,

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Speaker 2: today's an golden opportunity for them on the road against

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Speaker 2: definitely an elimination game. Two six and seven teams that

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Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni and Shane Oh yeah so and very different personalities.

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Speaker 2: But I mean we talked about Sirianni obviously, when he's

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Speaker 2: done with the Eagles. How about Shane Steichen. They're eight

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Speaker 3: Oh and don't forget about Frank Reich who Frank Reich

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Speaker 2: With the Colts. This is the problem. You have a

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Speaker 2: guy in John Spanos and and I like John on

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Speaker 2: the personal love he's a good guy. But if you

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Speaker 2: can't identify potential head coaching talent within your own organization,

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Speaker 2: you got a problem. And he didn't. He didn't look

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Speaker 2: at Nick Sirianni, who's an outgoing guy, or Shane Stecken,

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Speaker 2: a real serious guy. He never looked at either one

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Speaker 2: of these guys as head coaching material apparently, but both

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Speaker 2: of them obviously have proven they are they have what

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Speaker 2: All right, seven games getting started, right now, We got

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Speaker 2: a long way to go. And ladies and gentlemen, for

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Speaker 3: Well, unless something really truly unforeseen happens here, the evil

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Packers. There you go. There it is right there,

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, and that's my point is you don't go

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make a comment I made this yesterday

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Speaker 3: Oh we just had a huge, huge play a screen

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Speaker 2: Well, I got another quick pass inside the five yard

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you am I out of line with

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Speaker 2: I definitely agree with that touchdown. Chiefs. There you go.

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Speaker 2: Hang on to your answer to my question about quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: are you today?

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Speaker 8: I'm so well.

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Speaker 2: How are you? I'm doing well? Yeah, yeah, well slow

436
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Speaker 2: that I was showing Monsey some photos from the game

437
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Speaker 2: on Thursday. My boys blanked out in their Chargers. Here

438
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Speaker 2: my oldest son, Draken has now now got the Gardner

439
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Speaker 2: Minshew mustache going. It's the full Minshew mustache.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable now and listen, I mean, were you guys

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Speaker 3: feeling uncomfortable because we know Vegas is now owned by the.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? So as the game in

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Speaker 2: the first half, obviously as they were going they were

444
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Speaker 2: getting a lot of abuse. But here's the worst part,

445
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: because obviously Raiders Chargers big rivals. As the game got

446
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: worse and worse, the Raider fans were actually showing sympathy.

447
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Speaker 2: There's nothing worse. As I mean, they accept the fact

448
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Speaker 2: that okay, we we deserved the abuse. But when Raider

449
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Speaker 2: fans like gee, We're sorry. That is way more painful

450
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Speaker 2: to be getting grief when your team is getting beat out.

451
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Speaker 2: So it was the ultimate humiliation.

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Speaker 5: That is that is rough. Yeah, that doesn't make it worse.

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Speaker 5: But I'm glad that you were able to spend some

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Speaker 5: quality time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you kuld with your kids.

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Speaker 8: You'll never you'll never forget it.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that is why I try to do these

458
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Speaker 2: road trip We hit the road, we you know what.

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Speaker 8: Just got exactly but his daughter went to So it

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Speaker 8: wasn't just.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no. It was my daughter's boyfriend, your daughter's boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: It was a boys. It was four of them, all boys.

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Speaker 8: I figured the daughters.

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Speaker 2: Still we get a lot of drinking at the stadium,

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot.

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Speaker 5: I'm proud of you. I'm proud of all my friends today.

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Speaker 5: Let's check in on the scores. Bears, Brown's scoreless five

468
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Speaker 5: minutes to go in the first. The Packers took the

469
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Speaker 5: lead against the Buccaneers at home, seven to three. Jordan

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Speaker 5: Love to tuck her craft for that touchdown. The Titans

471
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Speaker 5: mis missed the extra point, but will Levis with a

472
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Speaker 5: rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Have you guys seen the attack on.

474
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Speaker 5: Will Levis's ex girlfriend so apparently she was at the

475
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Speaker 5: draft with him, and you know how he fell in

476
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Speaker 5: the draft.

477
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Speaker 2: She was only there thinking that he was going to

478
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Speaker 2: be a high pick, and as soon as he was

479
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Speaker 2: and she left.

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Speaker 5: She left, but apparently got like a bunch of followers

481
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Speaker 5: and all of this stuff.

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Speaker 8: Right, she's an attractive girl.

483
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Speaker 5: But her last picture it's everyone commenting last game stats

484
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Speaker 5: for Will Levis with that drive with you remember at

485
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Speaker 5: the end, So everyone's commenting his like statline.

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Speaker 8: Everyone's like, you fumbled. He is him, He's the real deal.

487
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Speaker 2: Like it's so funny and well, her reaction through that

488
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Speaker 2: entire draft is his name disappeared, you could, I'm out

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Speaker 2: of here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she was so annoyed by it.

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Speaker 2: The only reason I'm sitting next to you is because

492
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Speaker 2: you promised me you'd be a high pick in the

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Speaker 2: direct right, and.

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Speaker 8: It did not work out.

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Speaker 5: Things are working out though, for Rickie Moster, his nineteenth

496
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Speaker 5: touchdown of the season, a franchise record for the Dolphins,

497
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Speaker 5: who are up on the Jets seven zero, and they

498
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Speaker 5: are in the red zone late in the first the

499
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Speaker 5: Chiefs up on the.

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Speaker 8: Patriots seven zero, even though both.

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Speaker 5: Of these teams have already missed a field goal late

502
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Speaker 5: in the first and on that one the Saints have

503
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Speaker 5: just scored, so they've taken the lead over the Giants.

504
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Speaker 5: It's seven three thirty seconds to go in the first.

505
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Speaker 5: Falcons and Panthers still scoreless. For the games that are

506
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Speaker 5: too come, Aaron Donald is expected to play for the Rams.

507
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Speaker 8: They're going to be hosting the Commanders.

508
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Speaker 5: He had a growin injury all week, and multiple Cowboy

509
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 5: players apparently are dealing with the stomach bug, including cornerbacks

510
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Speaker 5: to Von Gilmour and wide receiver Brandon Cooks. They are

511
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Speaker 5: expected to play against the Bills, but that sucks, and

512
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Speaker 5: Eagles have down graded a quarterback Jalen Hurts, questionable for

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Speaker 5: Monday night's game in Seattle due to illness.

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Speaker 8: Everybody is sick, guys, but you got a power through.

515
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Speaker 8: Tis the season.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, all right, Monzi, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: We'll check in with you a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve

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Speaker 2: look at some of these teams right now, I was

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Speaker 2: talking yesterday Matt Moseley and I were doing the show,

526
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Speaker 2: and of course he's based out of Dallas. By the way,

527
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Speaker 2: Tom Ornaldy's going to be joining us a little bit

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Speaker 2: later on. He's working that Cowboys Bills game. But I

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Speaker 2: made this comment looking at the current setings in the

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Speaker 2: AFC and the NFC, and the way I look at it,

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Speaker 2: with the forty nine Ers and the Ravens sitting atop

532
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Speaker 2: both these conferences. If the playoffs go through Baltimore or

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Speaker 2: the playoffs go through San Francisco, I don't see either

534
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Speaker 2: one of those teams losing. Remember the Hard Bowl back

535
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Speaker 2: in the day, when the Ravens beat the forty nine

536
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Speaker 2: Ers in that Super Bowl. I see that happening because

537
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at a lot of teams right now. I

538
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Speaker 2: know the Cowboys are hot, but we'll see how they

539
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Speaker 2: do on the road against the Bills. Remember, the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: have three road wins this year, and two of the

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Speaker 2: three teams they built have fired their coaches. That would

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Speaker 2: be Carolina and the Chargers. Their other road win was

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Speaker 2: against the Giants. But I mean, do you see any

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Speaker 2: team that would go into San Francisco or even on

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Speaker 2: the AFC side going to Baltimore and come away with

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Speaker 2: a victory.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get what you're saying, but the Ravens

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Speaker 3: have had some head scratching losses this season, Like the

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Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers. You could explain away they're

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Speaker 3: losing streak pretty easily. The Niners lost because they didn't

551
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Speaker 3: have they're all pro players healthy all at the same time,

552
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Speaker 3: and Brock Purdy got dinged up during that at that

553
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Speaker 3: time period too, and then they went on the week

554
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Speaker 3: and went, you know, got back on the role. But

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Speaker 3: the loss to the Colts earlier in the season against

556
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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, the loss to the Steelers on the road

557
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Speaker 3: against in Pittsburgh, that was a terrible football game for them,

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Speaker 3: The loss to the Browns, you know, and again Deshaun

559
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Speaker 3: Watson had an other worldly second half and I believe

560
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Speaker 3: that's the last time we saw him this season. But

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Speaker 3: it's just like there have been moments with the Baltimore

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Speaker 3: Ravens where I'm like, they just don't show up for

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Speaker 3: a half, and you can't do that in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with what you said about the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers.

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Speaker 3: There's no question in my mind anybody who travels to

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Speaker 3: Levi Stadium is going to struggle a great deal with

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Speaker 3: the Niners this season. But I don't have that same

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Speaker 3: They're not as invincible as the Niners are. When I

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Speaker 3: think about the Baltimore Ravens, Well, remember.

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Speaker 2: Again about the Chiefs. The Honor Mahomes have never had

572
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Speaker 2: a road playoff game. Actually they had one. They played

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Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on the road in a Super

574
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Speaker 2: Bowl and even know how that one came out. So

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Speaker 2: that's going to be the unknown with the Chiefs if

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Speaker 2: they have to play on the road. He's never had

577
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Speaker 2: a road playoff game, aside from that one Super Bowl

578
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Speaker 2: where they got blown out by the Buccaneers. So moving forward,

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Speaker 2: all right, The Buccaneers are on the move right now

580
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Speaker 2: after the Packers score. They've gotten into the red zone

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Speaker 2: against the Packers. They have a third and six right

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Speaker 2: now at the Green Bay nineteen and now.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown pass Evans.

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans on the receivent from that Baker Mayfield pass.

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Speaker 2: So Mayfield, remember that's that's that ugly NFC South with

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Speaker 2: the Falcons and the Buccaneers and the Saints all tied

587
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Speaker 2: at six and seven, somebody is going to get into

588
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Speaker 2: the playoffs out of that division. The Bucks have now

589
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Speaker 2: taken a ten to seven lead on the road against

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Speaker 2: the Packers, so check this out.

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield is making a case to be the Buccaneers

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Speaker 3: starting quarterback moving forward. He came in as a band

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Speaker 3: aid on a gushing wound that Tom Brady op been

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Speaker 3: for them the second time that he retired from football,

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Speaker 3: and I think expectations were he was going to be

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Speaker 3: a bridge quarterback. He was going to help them move

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Speaker 3: on to Kyle Trask, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were

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Speaker 3: going to give him the same hard look that the

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Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers. Oddly, since they're playing each other, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna give Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Love this year.

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Speaker 3: But Trash got buried during training camp because Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 3: showed up with different intentions. He didn't want to be

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Speaker 3: a bridge quarterback. He wanted to be a playoff quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And that may come to fruition if Tampa Baker finds

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Speaker 3: a way into the tournament and dare I say steal

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Speaker 3: a win against one of these top seeds, especially if

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay is hosting a postseason game. My goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 3: the Buccaneers absolutely, there's no question they have to keep

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield as their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He is one of those guys again that when he

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Speaker 2: has his back to the wall, he somehow surprises people,

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Speaker 2: and so what he's done in Tampa should not be

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Speaker 2: a surprise. It's gonna be interesting to see which team

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Speaker 2: survives in that division. The Saints, by the way, have

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Speaker 2: a seven to three lead going up against the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Giants obviously have been handcuffed losing their quarterback. This year.

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Speaker 2: Tommy Devido hasn't been terrible. He's become sort of a

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Speaker 2: fan favorite. But right now on the road and Derek Carr,

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Speaker 2: you know, it hasn't been overwhelming. But ultimately, if the

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Speaker 2: Saints come out on top of the NFC South, hey

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Speaker 2: mission accomplish.

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Speaker 3: Listen, dude, Derek Carr has been mediocre this season. He's

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Speaker 3: been injured, and when he's been out there, this offense

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Speaker 3: hasn't been in sync. I'm a Derek Carr fan. I

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Speaker 3: think that Derek Carr is a good leader. I think

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Speaker 3: that he's a good person. I think he's a good

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Speaker 3: football player. But this year has not been a good.

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Speaker 2: Year for Derek Carr.

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Speaker 3: He went to New Orleans with high hopes. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is a team that really felt like they were

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Speaker 3: quarterback away. I'm being ready to make a serious run

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Speaker 3: in the NFC South, and that's a very winnable division.

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Speaker 3: We're just talking about it, kind of laughing about Carolina

635
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Speaker 3: and Tampa Bay and Atlanta. Nobody wants to win this division.

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Speaker 3: We'll shoot Derek Carr had. This division was primed for

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Speaker 3: the plucking, and he's made it harder on the Saints.

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Speaker 3: It feels like then if they just wouldn't want to

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00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: it went with Jamis Winston for crying out loud.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, this has been a down year for Derek Carr.

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Speaker 2: All right, we will roll on right now. Again, I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at Miami and the Jets. This is the other

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Speaker 2: team that a lot of people are trying to figure

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Speaker 2: out is the Miami Dolphins. How legit is Miami? You

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Speaker 2: know we talk about well the Chiefs, my Cohen to

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Speaker 2: Baltimore and win No one's saying that in Miami. Miami

647
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Speaker 2: has feasted on bad teams all season long. They're doing

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Speaker 2: it again today to a Tongue Bailoa, a perfect eighth

649
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Speaker 2: r eight fifty two yards so far in this game. Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 2: who had that unbelievable game last week, not so much

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Speaker 2: right now. Dolphins averaging thirty six points a game against

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Speaker 2: teams with losing records. You think Miami is capable of

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Speaker 2: winning a road playoff game.

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Speaker 3: Not if they can't stay healthy. And this has been

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Speaker 3: the problem with the Dolphins since two has been the quarterback,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of it has been his health. But

657
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Speaker 3: now if you look down the stretch with an injured

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Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill, with an offensive line that's had a combined

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Speaker 3: twenty one games where they've had different offensive linemen injured,

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Speaker 3: I mean twenty one combined games.

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Speaker 2: That's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: They just can't seem to keep offensive players on the

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Speaker 3: field and healthy for very long, and so especially in December,

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Speaker 3: especially in January, I have significant doubts about the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they have every indication to be a first

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Speaker 3: round bounce if they get in.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll continue on with the games going on

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Speaker 2: right now, playoff implications, we're at that time. It's week fifteen,

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Speaker 2: only three more weeks in the regular season after this week.

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Speaker 2: Keep it right here for everything you need. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio six dropping Mayfield looking Mayfield

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Speaker 2: throws toward the end, Zel receiver, clop ball, touchdowns, have

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Speaker 2: a Bay Mike Tevans, a great throw by Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 2: That's ninety eight Rock Buccaneers Radio network. That gave the

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers at ten to seven LAB. But the Packers have

676
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Speaker 2: tied it up with the field goals seven minutes ago

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Speaker 2: in the half Bucks at Green Bay tied at ten.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve Harbin and

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Speaker 2: Rich Arnberger. We are live from the ti iraq dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Well, you talk about one team where everything

681
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Speaker 2: was going right and then one game changes everything, that

682
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Speaker 2: would be the Houston Texans, no doubt. They go into

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Speaker 2: the Jets last week fully expecting to win. Not only

684
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Speaker 2: do they get in Bears blown out by the lowly Jets,

685
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Speaker 2: but they lose their quarterback and this week without him,

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Speaker 2: they're already down thirteen to nothing on the road to

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Speaker 2: the Titans. So this is this is that fine line

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League because these teams are so

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Speaker 2: evenly matched that if you lose one key ingredient or

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Speaker 2: you have a hiccup and maybe it has an adverse

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Speaker 2: effect on how the next week goes. You look up

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, what looked like, hey, we're

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Speaker 2: in great shake to be in the playoffs, suddenly he's

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Speaker 2: in jeopardy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it's not just losing their quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I mean you just look around that offense. Nico Collins,

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Speaker 3: he had the calf before that tank dell out for

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Speaker 3: the season with the fractured leg. They lost other offensive

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Speaker 3: players all across the season, offensive lineman specifically, which was

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Speaker 3: why it was so impressive what CJ. Stroud was doing,

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Speaker 3: because with a patchwork group of offensive linemen in front

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Speaker 3: of him, within an interchangeable group of skill position players

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Speaker 3: on his flanks, he was still finding ways not only

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Speaker 3: to win, but to look like one of the better

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the NFL through a majority of the season.

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Speaker 3: So look, the Houston Texans, nobody expected this to be

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Speaker 3: the year anyways. So if they some how find a

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Speaker 3: way to sneak into the postseason, well great. I mean,

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Speaker 3: although again with a loss to the Tennessee Titans, that

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Speaker 3: that light is significantly diminished and they're trailing thirteen to nothing,

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Speaker 3: right now in Tennessee. But if they find a way

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Speaker 3: to sneak in, great, you're playing with house money. But

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Speaker 3: just the fact that they have seven wins already at

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Speaker 3: this point in the season, I mean, that's enough to

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Speaker 3: get excited about. Because this was supposed to be a

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Speaker 3: complete rebuild year and it turned into something more than that.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching this Chiefs Patriots game and the Patriots are

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Speaker 2: on the move again Bailey's Zappi, and we still got

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Speaker 2: ten mins to go in the first half. Is fourteen

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Speaker 2: of sixteen fo one hundred and thirteen yards. Who would

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Speaker 2: have thought the Patriots passing game would be doing damage

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Speaker 2: against one of the best defenses in the league.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Well listen, after that victory last week, there

724
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Speaker 9: was a lot of confidence with Bailly Zappi heading into

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Speaker 9: this matchup.

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Speaker 2: Now again, you know when.

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Speaker 3: You read the local press around Foxborough and you read

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Speaker 3: from people who follow this team, it's it they there's

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Speaker 3: definitely reporters and writers who can drink the kool aid

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Speaker 3: a little bit and be like, hey, you know, okay,

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Speaker 3: maybe they have a solution at quarterback. But Bailly's Appy

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Speaker 3: did this last year too. For stints, he looked really serviceable,

733
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Speaker 3: if not good. So this could be one of those

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Speaker 3: games where you get a special moment out of a

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Speaker 3: backup quarterback, especially against a team as talented as the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: or who have as high of expectations on them like

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs do. And I said it to you to

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Speaker 3: start this show, and I'll repeat it again. I was

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Speaker 3: saying this yesterday. This has every indication of being a

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Speaker 3: trap game for the Kansas City Chiefs. This is a

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Speaker 3: game I could very easily see the Chiefs losing and

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Speaker 3: then having the narrative tomorrow morning and all day tomorrow

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Speaker 3: and all early week next week or this upcoming week

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Speaker 3: being oh no, the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Are in trouble. All right. Now, there are two games

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Speaker 2: we haven't mentioned. I know people are anxious to find

747
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Speaker 2: out what's going on with the Bears at the Browns

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Speaker 2: and the Falcons at the Panthers. Let me put it

749
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Speaker 2: this way. Those four teams so far have a combined

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Speaker 2: zero points. Okay, we have no score in both of

751
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Speaker 2: those games. The Browns right now, they're in the playoffs.

752
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Speaker 2: They're city at eight and five. They've been able to

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Speaker 2: overcome the injury to Deshaun Watson with their outstanding defense,

754
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Speaker 2: and their defense hasn't even been all that effective Joe

755
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Speaker 2: Flacco today, I mean, come on, I mean he looked

756
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Speaker 2: at last weeks four of ten for thirty three yards

757
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Speaker 2: against the Bears. I mean, it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Can the Browns survive this? Can they survive with Joe

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Speaker 2: Flacco and actually get into the postseason?

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Speaker 3: I believe they can. I think that Joe Flacco still

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Speaker 3: has enough talent to guide the ship, but he can't

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Speaker 3: make mistakes. That's the one thing Joe Flacco. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what point in the game it is.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if it's third quarter and you're pressing

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Speaker 3: and half fourth, Yeah, you've got to play perfect ball.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Patriots.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Bailey ZAPPI is carving up the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: right now, Hunter Henry in the end zone. Touchdown Pats.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Bailly Zappy. Like I said, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people talking about how confident they are, and I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about not only just the press, but some of the

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Speaker 3: quotes from his teammates coming out of the locker room

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Speaker 3: after the win over the Steelers a week ago, there

774
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Speaker 3: was like there was real excitement around what he did,

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Speaker 3: and there's real interest in seeing what he has like

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Speaker 3: a true test down the stretch of the season as

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Speaker 3: the Patriots have moved on from Mac Jones. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: big score there for the Pats against the Kansas City Chiefs.

779
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Speaker 3: And right now the Chiefs are in for the fight

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Speaker 3: of their life in Foxborough. In the second quarter here

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Speaker 3: with seven minutes to play in this half, tied at seven.

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Speaker 2: Bailey Zappi is sixteen of eighteen, one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: five yards and that touchdown pass. So the Pats and

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs I did seven seven minutes to go in

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Speaker 2: the half. By the way, I had to sit down

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Speaker 2: in studio today and figure out which one of these

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Speaker 2: two games because none of them were obvious like must

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Speaker 2: watch games before the and I picked the Bucks Packers

789
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Speaker 2: and the Cheese Patriots. Both teams are tied. Genius. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know these games would be good? Uh I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I just guessed.

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Speaker 3: He was nineteen of twenty eight last week for two

793
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Speaker 3: forty three touchdowns in the interception, So if he can

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Speaker 3: put together string together a couple of good games here,

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Speaker 3: then that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: All right. We got a long way to go heading

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Speaker 2: toward halftime in these seven games around the NFL for

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Speaker 2: all the latest, keep it here. This is Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio. Play fake vi Zeppi. He's in the pocket,

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Speaker 2: he loves a thrown a heaving in the end zone.

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Speaker 10: That's Pup touched down Patriots Bailey Zambia Goods facing the

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Speaker 10: pass rush for the beautiful throw, butather to hundred Henry

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Speaker 10: touch down, New England.

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Speaker 2: That's ninety eight five. The Sports Hub and the Patriots

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Speaker 2: radio network. That tied the game and then the it's

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Speaker 2: intercepted Patrick Mahomes. They have the ball back. That game

807
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Speaker 2: tied at seven, could be the shocker of the day.

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Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We

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Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. The Patriots scored, but it

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Speaker 2: was negated by a penalty. So now they're facing a

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Speaker 2: fourth and goal and their field goal team is coming

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Speaker 2: onto the field. But I haven't seen this kind of

817
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Speaker 2: giddy up in the Patriots gate in quite a while.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they are fired up right now at home

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Speaker 2: against a it's got to be a shocked Chiefs team.

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Speaker 2: Here's a little story I just wrote. You might wanta

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Speaker 2: seeing it.

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Speaker 3: No fun, don't don't worry Mezappy.

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Speaker 2: The field goal attempt is good. So the Bajans take

824
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Speaker 2: a ten to seven lead over the Chiefs. And you

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Speaker 2: know they showed Bob Kraft sitting up there in his

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Speaker 2: owner's box. I mean, if they pulled this win at

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Speaker 2: home today against the defending Super Bowl, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: that could say Belichick.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of my point about bringing up Tom

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Speaker 3: Kern's report, him giving himself a little bit of an

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Speaker 3: out there saying things change, and yeah, things zoo change.

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Speaker 3: What happens? What happens if the Patriots beat the.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs this game?

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Speaker 3: What happens if the Patriots gone a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a tear to finish the season and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: belly Zappi looks like a pretty decent quarterback. Now, I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying any of that's going to occur. The Chiefs

838
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Speaker 3: could roar back in this game and do what they do,

839
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Speaker 3: but they stiff to go on the road to Denver.

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Speaker 3: They still have to go on the road to Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: They have to host the Jets to finish out their

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Speaker 3: season after this game. But a four game win streak

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Speaker 3: to finish the season, five game including last week, and

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Speaker 3: an eight and what would that be?

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Speaker 2: An seven to ten record?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, excuse me, a seven to ten record. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's good. It is the farthest thing

848
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Speaker 3: from good. But it is a hell of a finish

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Speaker 3: to what has been a hellacious season. And maybe it

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Speaker 3: gives you pause, if you're Robbert Kraft, to run it

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Speaker 3: back and give Belichick one last ride with this organization

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Speaker 3: to try to get it right.

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Speaker 2: If there was one easy play today, it was the

854
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Speaker 2: Dolphins at home against the Jets. The Dolphins have feasted

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Speaker 2: off of bad teams all year long. Seventeen to nothing

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Speaker 2: Dolphins total yards in this game. Miami has one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty two. The Jets have negative one. Tua is

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Speaker 2: a perfect eleven for eleven hundred and twenty six yards

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Speaker 2: passing in this game. Jaylen Waddle, by the way, has

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Speaker 2: been his main target today four catches ninety one yards

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Speaker 2: on a score. As far as Zach Wilson after that

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Speaker 2: great performance last week, not so much today. Three of

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Speaker 2: seven to twenty one yards. He's already been sacked three

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Speaker 2: times for thirty six yards in negative yardage.

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Speaker 3: This Jets offensive line is so bad. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: are so bad.

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Speaker 2: Now Aaron Rodgers is like he's on pace to come back.

868
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Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Seriously? Are you really gonna

869
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: put Aaron Rodgers back out on the field this year?

870
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is calling all the shots.

871
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: I know, he's calling all the shots.

872
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: So if he wants to play, he's gonna play.

873
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: Why would he want to play and put himself at risk?

874
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: As you said, this is one of the worst, if

875
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: not the worst offensive line in the National Football League

876
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: right now. I don't know the answer that question.

877
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: Now that that is a question that can only be

878
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: answered by Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if he wants

879
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: to go out there just to say he did, just

880
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: to say he could and to sort of complete the

881
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: promise he's made to himself to play again this season.

882
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: I look, competitors are strange cats.

883
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: You know.

884
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Speaker 3: And and again this is coming from somebody who played

885
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: at this level, and I understands the sacrifice, the sacrifice

886
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: to get there, and I mean, you have to be

887
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: a little bit insane to play football, you have to

888
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 3: be a little bit insane to fight mixed martial arts

889
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: or to get in a boxing ring, like.

890
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: You have to have a screw loose a little bit.

891
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: And so in order to complete this task of hurrying

892
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: through nearing forty a major injury recovery, he had a

893
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: set a goal and maybe he feels like it wouldn't

894
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: be honest to himself if he doesn't get on the

895
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: field this year, If he honestly feels.

896
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: He can you imagine if he got re injured, oh

897
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: my meaningless game.

898
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: It would be a disaster for it. Not only well,

899
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: let's put it this way. Is it a really is

900
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: it a career disaster? I don't know, but is it

901
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: a disaster for the Jets?

902
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: It would be.

903
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: It would be the most New York Jets thing to

904
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Speaker 3: ever happen if that's how this season ended.

905
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: All right, We got a couple of games they had

906
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Speaker 2: no score earlier, both have scores. Falcons just got on

907
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: the board first on the road against the pathetic Panthers.

908
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: Cordero Patterson to yard touchdown reception from Desmond Ritter and

909
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 2: the Bears are up seven out early on the road

910
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: against the Falcons.

911
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, really quick about that, About that Cleveland Browns Bears situation. Yeah,

912
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: so if you go to the play by play and

913
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: you look how the Bears got their first score, I mean,

914
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: it was just it was just nonsense. There was a

915
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: I believe it was twelve men on the field and

916
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: off sides and then there there were like three penalties

917
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: in a row for Cleveland that led the Bears down

918
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: the field. I think there were four penalties called on

919
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: that drive on the Bears making their way to the.

920
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: End zone with with Cole Kmet. So, look, the Browns.

921
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: The Browns could screw around and lose this game, and

922
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: this would be an embarrassing loss at home against a

923
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 3: Bears team that really doesn't have business beating them.

924
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: And if they if they beat them.

925
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: And it's not Joe Flacco's fault and it's not the

926
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: offense's fault, it's this defense giving up penalty yardage.

927
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Speaker 2: I mean, what a disaster that would be. Well, think

928
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Speaker 2: about this with the Bears right now. Normally a team

929
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: having a bad season, and the Bears came into this

930
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 2: week at five and eight, you're thinking tanking. But they

931
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Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that. They're going to have

932
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Speaker 2: the number one pick and that they're aft courtesy of

933
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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers, and so that's done. So whatever they decide,

934
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: how they decide to use that number one overall pick,

935
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: we'll see. But this is a team that has a

936
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Speaker 2: reason to play, they don't have a reason to tank.

937
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: And each week, again it's going to be an evaluation

938
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Speaker 2: of Justin Fields and just seeing again whether or not

939
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: if you're afforded the number one overall pick. And it

940
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: looks at this point like the Bears are guaranteed that

941
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Speaker 2: with the Panthers pick, then they'll have to make their choice.

942
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: I am not giving up on Justin Fields. I have

943
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: been in Justin Field's corner from the get go. I

944
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: know what this guy is capable of. And the Bears

945
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: have other needs, and again, somebody is going to overspend

946
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: for that number one pick, lamit him on the three

947
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: number ones.

948
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 3: I understand where you're at on Justin Fields, and I'm

949
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: not saying that Justin Fields is never going to figure

950
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: it out at this level, but it may not happen

951
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: with the Bears. And here's why a duel threat quarterback

952
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: is typically a tonic for a struggling offense, like a

953
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: dual threat quarterback typically is like vitamin C or B

954
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: twelve shot to the immune system of an offense. All

955
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: of a sudden, everything looks better. You know, you get

956
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: an injection of a little dual threat QB and if

957
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: he can play at this level, it just the sun

958
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: shines a little bit brighter, life smells nice, and the

959
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: leaves that you start noticing colors for the first time.

960
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: You're like, oh wow, you know, things aren't so bad

961
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: around here. Justin Fields has not been that for the

962
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears. Think about what Lamar Jackson, what he did

963
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: to the Baltimore Ravens offense. They were calling for John

964
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: Harbaugh's job, They were trying.

965
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: To fire Harbaugh.

966
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: Flacco was at the end of his rope and Baltimore

967
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 3: and Lamar Jackson saved the franchise from making a huge

968
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 3: change at head coach and front office and all that stuff. So,

969
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: I mean, Justin Fields has not been that for Chicago.

970
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact. I mean it's.

971
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Speaker 3: Possible he may get another head coach fired in Chicago

972
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 3: this season. I mean, he's already gone through Matt Naggi.

973
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: It could be Matt Everfluse, who knows maybe the front

974
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: office is going to get changed over before this upcoming draft.

975
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 3: I mean, it has been bad, So I get it.

976
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: I understand he's an elite talent in terms of his athleticism,

977
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: but I don't necessarily see what you see in terms

978
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 3: of quarterback play at this league level.

979
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Speaker 2: Well we'll see. I mean, Caleb Williams obviously is sitting

980
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: out there the projected number one overall pick. Again quarterbacks,

981
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: It's been a graveyard for quarterbacks for the Bears. I mean,

982
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: one after another after another. Talented guys. I mean, you know,

983
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: had a good record, was hit a twelve win season

984
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 2: and people forget that and he got let go. Browns,

985
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: by the way, are knocking on the door. They had

986
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: a first and goal at the one. Now they have

987
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: a second goal at the two Kareem Hunters Scott taken

988
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: down for a one yard loss. So the Browns looking

989
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: to even up this game against the Bears. All right,

990
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Speaker 2: coming up, we got Dallas at Buffalo. This is the

991
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: game of the week in the National Football League. Dallas

992
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: is on a roll right now, but can they do

993
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 2: it on the road against the Bills team that needs

994
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Speaker 2: to win. They got the big road win against the

995
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: Chiefs last week. How is this game gonna shake out?

996
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna check in with Fox Sports sideline reporter the

997
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: Great Tom Rinaldy will join us. This is Fox Sports

998
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Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio. Hunt us in the backfield.

999
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Speaker 11: Roll out right, here's lack A rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling,

1000
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 11: firing into the corner of the end zone. Hit Joko

1001
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 11: caught it, touchdown, the Chiefs pritsker, the safety was back

1002
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 11: there and the chief call.

1003
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Speaker 2: That's the Browns Radio Network. Browns a Bears tied at

1004
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: seven heading to the two minute warning in the first

1005
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Speaker 2: half of that game. This is Steve Hartman along with

1006
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger, Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We are live

1007
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: from the ti iraq dot Com studios. All right, let's

1008
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: get a sneak peek of the game coming up between

1009
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the Bills.

1010
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: It's time for the NFL on Fox Focus Toys once again.

1011
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: Is Fox Sports NFL reporter Tom Renaldi. Tom. He got

1012
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,479
Speaker 2: a big game today with the Cowboys on the road

1013
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: against the Bills. Let's start with the Cowboys. They're the

1014
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 2: hot team right now. They dismantled the Eagles last week.

1015
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: They've been unbeatable at home, but very ordinary on the road.

1016
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Speaker 2: In fact, two of their three road wins are against

1017
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Speaker 2: teams that have since fired their head coach. Do you

1018
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 2: feel like the Cowboys are ready to get it done?

1019
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: The conditions aren't going to be great and Buffalo, are

1020
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: the Cowboys good enough to win on the road against

1021
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: a Bill's team that needs this victory today?

1022
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, always good to be with you. Let's start

1023
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 6: with those conditions and just walked inside the tunnel. Was

1024
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 6: outside about the last twenty minutes or so a steady,

1025
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Speaker 6: mid to heavy rain, and that's forecast to continue at

1026
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Speaker 6: seventy percent through the entirety of the game. Speaking of

1027
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Speaker 6: both teams this week, it's interesting to hear how win

1028
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 6: is the number one challenge, but number two is rain

1029
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 6: because of the ability to grip the ball and the

1030
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 6: pressure that it puts on ball security. Obviously, what we

1031
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 6: know is it could be a lot older in mid

1032
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 6: December here in Buffalo. The temperatures are going to be

1033
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 6: in about the mid forties. But if that rain does persist,

1034
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 6: it's a turf field. It won't be as much about

1035
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 6: traction to these two teams, guys, that it's going to

1036
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 6: be about that ball security. Dallas went through the wet

1037
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 6: ball drills, all the things that a team normally does

1038
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 6: going on the road when the weather's forecast to be

1039
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 6: this way. Well, let's face it, it's got to be

1040
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 6: clear advantage to the Bills. They're used to playing in

1041
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 6: these conditions late in the season. They're a veteran team

1042
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 6: offensively that's used to it. We'll see if they can

1043
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 6: protect the ball. That'll be a huge part of this game.

1044
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 6: To look out for guys all security in these conditions.

1045
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: So the Bills, they're coming off obviously a very emotional

1046
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: win over the Chiefs on the road at Arrowhead. But

1047
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: you know, Tom, I keep thinking to myself, what if

1048
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: they lost that game?

1049
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: Like, what if.

1050
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: Instead of it being a three point victory for the Bills,

1051
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: what if it was a three point loss. And they're

1052
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: coming off of back to back losses against the Eagles

1053
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: and the Chiefs, and then two weeks prior to that

1054
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: losing to the Broncos. Like, how much different would the

1055
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Speaker 3: narrative be going into this game? And how much do

1056
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: you think that Chiefs win did for Buffalo in terms

1057
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: of confidence heading into this matchup against the Cowboys.

1058
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Speaker 6: You heard this term over and over again talking to

1059
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 6: players and coaches. This week, guys battle tested, right, and

1060
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 6: they don't mean that they've won every battle. They've lost

1061
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 6: overtime games, they've lost close games. They're that very anomalous

1062
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 6: team whose record might not actually be truly indicative of

1063
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 6: how good the team is. They're in the top three

1064
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 6: in margin of victory and closest margin of defeat. That

1065
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 6: is incredibly unusual for any team in an NFL season.

1066
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Speaker 6: So they lose close, but when they win, they tend

1067
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 6: to win big. I think, having been through those games

1068
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 6: right where they are three and six in nine games

1069
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 6: decided by six points or fewer, it is a huge,

1070
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Speaker 6: huge hurdle to get over last week to win a

1071
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 6: close game. And let's face it, guys, do you want

1072
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Speaker 6: to face the Bills even though they're only seven and six.

1073
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Speaker 6: If they find a way to win this game and

1074
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Speaker 6: have it and have a playoff ber on the line

1075
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Speaker 6: for the division in the final week of the season

1076
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Speaker 6: against Miami where they already have the tiebreaker, I think

1077
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Speaker 6: the Bills are a very dangerous out if they can

1078
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Speaker 6: get there, and this is a huge, huge step for

1079
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Speaker 6: them to do that today.

1080
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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that one, Tom, This is

1081
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Speaker 2: not a team you'd want to see in the postseason.

1082
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of postseasons, not only has been twenty eight years

1083
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: since the Cowboys won a Super Bowl, it's been twenty

1084
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: eight years since they even made it to the conference

1085
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: championship game. Tom, You've been around this team off and

1086
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: on for a number of years. They're the ultimate tease.

1087
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: You feel like at some point the football gods are

1088
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: going to finally smile on the Cowboys and Jerry and say,

1089
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: all right, we're going to give you one more. Is

1090
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: there anything different about this year's Cowboys team from the

1091
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: Cowboys teams we have seen over the last decade plus,

1092
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: which teams that have talent, but for whatever reason, they

1093
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: come up short. Is there any reason to believe that

1094
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: this year's team is any different?

1095
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 6: You know, guys, if you go back to when you

1096
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 6: were in school and you thought you did well in

1097
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 6: this semester and yet Vesser backloads the course where seventy

1098
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 6: five percent of your grade is dependent on the final exam. Right,

1099
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 6: You've nailed all the pop quizes, you've gotten all the

1100
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 6: homework assignments in, you've done well on the couple of

1101
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 6: tests that you've taken. But if you bomb the final

1102
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 6: None of that prior performance matters. That's the Cowboys. As

1103
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 6: you said, I think you put it perfectly, and they

1104
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 6: embrace and acknowledge that. No one has been more consistent

1105
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 6: with that message than Dak Prescott, and talking to him

1106
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 6: this week, he said, we have not been particularly high

1107
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 6: even after blowing teams out going on this winning streak.

1108
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 6: They know that their ultimate, the ultimate decider of what

1109
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 6: matters to this season comes later than now. This is

1110
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 6: another good test for them to see if they can

1111
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 6: win a big game on the hor because I'll ask you, guys,

1112
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 6: what's your answer to this. We asked this among our

1113
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 6: crew earlier this week. When is the last big road

1114
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 6: to reach for the Cowboys? You have the game that

1115
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 6: they were not supposed to win on the road. Can

1116
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 6: you come up with that?

1117
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1118
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: Jeez, Yeah, that's a great, great question.

1119
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: You know.

1120
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: Look, and that is a little bit of the issue

1121
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: late in this season being a Dome team and being

1122
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 3: a team that dominates at home, is it can become

1123
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 3: a self fulfilling prophecy. You know, Tom, I don't want

1124
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: to harp on the fact that the Bills could have

1125
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: lost the game to the Chiefs because they won and

1126
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter.

1127
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: What they did, what way they beat the Chiefs.

1128
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 3: They won that football game and then they could beat

1129
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: the Cowboys today and that does more than just help

1130
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: them potentially secure a division win. They still have the

1131
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: Dolphins ahead on the schedule, they have an easier road

1132
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: to get to double digit victories, especially with the win

1133
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: against Dallas. Here's the question I want to ask, specifically

1134
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: personally for Sean McDermott, especially after what happened the release

1135
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: of that article prior to the Chiefs game.

1136
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: We can go back to back wins here.

1137
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: Does that completely quiet down all of the negativity that

1138
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: was surrounding Sean McDermott leading into the game in Kansas City.

1139
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 6: Completely is a tough word, but doesn't quiet it? Absolutely right?

1140
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 6: I mean, these would be two significant tests that they passed.

1141
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 6: And again, I'll go back to the earlier point we

1142
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 6: made in the famous bilf ourselves quote that you are

1143
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 6: which your record says you are, but every once in

1144
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 6: a while there's a team which perhaps isn't. Stefon Diggs

1145
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 6: talked to that issue. He said, I get what we are,

1146
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 6: I know what the record says and where we are

1147
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 6: in the standings, but his belief that they're better than

1148
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 6: seven and six because of the tight losses that they've

1149
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 6: had and because of the gauntlet of the schedule that

1150
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 6: they face. Do they have some very bad losses, no question,

1151
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 6: but they have played well against good competition, as we

1152
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 6: saw last week, and I think that that was a

1153
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 6: rallying point in this season for this team. You know,

1154
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 6: and listen, guys, Micah Hyde being out the veteran safety

1155
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 6: for the Bills is significant, not only for what he

1156
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 6: brings it in terms of his level of play, but

1157
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 6: talking to guys this week like Greg Grussou and him saying,

1158
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 6: hide is the touchstone at this defense. He's the heartbeat

1159
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 6: of our locker room. He was the guy standing closest

1160
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 6: to McDermott when that game went to zero. He's the

1161
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 6: guy that picked him up off the ground and embraced him.

1162
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 6: That gives you an idea of how last week, the

1163
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 6: cauldron of it, the criticism of it from outside. Tyler

1164
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 6: Dunn's twenty thousand word piece on the McDermott rain, that

1165
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 6: brought this team together. Obviously nothing brings you together more

1166
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 6: than winning, but that brought the team together. We'll see

1167
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 6: if it bears froot now in a couple of hours.

1168
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: All right, final question, Tom, do you have the right

1169
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 2: gear for the weather conditions in Buffalo today?

1170
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 6: Well, that again is also the final example. See I

1171
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 6: will say this to you, guys. I learned a long

1172
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 6: time ago that you have what's called a rain bad

1173
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 6: and that just travels on the truck every week. You

1174
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 6: hope you don't need it, but should you? The gear

1175
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 6: is there, and so the gear is there. We'll see

1176
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 6: how it holds up, because it looks like it's going

1177
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 6: to be pretty steady. And I what we hope, though, guys,

1178
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 6: and everybody hopes, is that the weather doesn't, I listen,

1179
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 6: muck the game up so that these two incredible quarterbacks. Guys.

1180
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 6: The truth is, we don't see a lot of games

1181
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 6: where elite quarterback faces elite quarterback in the league, especially

1182
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 6: with all the backup play we've seen the overall level

1183
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,959
Speaker 6: of play for the position this year. I just hope

1184
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 6: that both guys are really able to shine the way

1185
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 6: we'd like to see the Sean.

1186
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, I promise you will be watching in dry conditions.

1187
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: Good luck out there to Tom. We always appreciate the

1188
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: time you always bring your a game and we appreciate it.

1189
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1190
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 6: Okay, guys, enjoy.

1191
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: That is Tom Ornaldy. He'll be on the sidelines for

1192
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: a big matchup. And he brought up a great point

1193
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: at the end. I mean, how many games at this

1194
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: point of the season are we going to see top

1195
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: level starting quarterbacks going up against each other with Josh

1196
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,720
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1201
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: find out what is trending right now. I feel like

1202
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: you are stalling just a little bit from Monci. But

1203
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 2: she's ready to go, ready to go. Everyone everybody wants

1204
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: to talk to Monsie. It's understandable. She has a lot

1205
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: of interesting things to say.

1206
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 5: Yes, just talking to Briar editor who is pulling all

1207
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 5: of these highlights.

1208
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: She does a phenomenal job every week.

1209
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 5: I mean her and Ian are just so great on

1210
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 5: the weekends. They get these so fastest. Yes, when we

1211
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 5: have back to back scores, happening.

1212
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 8: So I'm Trevor Simeon is in for Zach Wilson. Was

1213
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 8: he benched or is it because.

1214
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 5: Of that hard hit he had that they kind of

1215
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 5: evaluated for evaluating him for a concussion, but they let

1216
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 5: him go back out there.

1217
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: He is. Is he having a up day at the

1218
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: office for sure? Sure? Yeah, he's been already sacked forty

1219
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: He has as many sacks as completions.

1220
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 5: Okay, no boy, no, no boy, noh, Yeah, it's been

1221
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 5: all Dolphins, no Tyreek kill, no problem, honestly for Miami.

1222
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 8: They're up twenty four.

1223
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 5: Zero against the Jets. Raheem Moster with another rushing touchdown.

1224
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 5: That's two for today. That's nineteen and twenty for this season,

1225
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 5: a franchise record. He had nineteen touchdowns in the first

1226
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 5: eight seasons of his career combined, and now he's got

1227
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 5: nineteen and twenty today.

1228
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 8: What a change, you go, Rehee Moster. He is keeping

1229
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 8: my fantasy team alive.

1230
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 5: The Chiefs have taken the leader right before halftime, Patrick

1231
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 5: Mahomes to Jerreck McKinnon and now they're beating the Patriots

1232
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 5: fourteen to ten. The Saints are still beating the Giants

1233
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 5: seven six is the score, even though New York added

1234
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 5: another field goal. The Falcons are up on the Panthers

1235
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 5: seven three. Desmond Ridder to Carderyl Patterson for that touchdown,

1236
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 5: but the Panthers did hit a field goal, so they're

1237
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 5: on the scoreboard. The Titans holding on to their lead

1238
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 5: after that pick six. They're beating the Texans thirteen to three,

1239
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 5: and they're about to start the third quarter. The Buccaneers

1240
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 5: added a field goal to take the lead over the

1241
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 5: Packers thirteen to ten. That's the score at halftime, and

1242
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 5: the Bears and the Browns Justin Fields to Cole Comet

1243
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 5: put them on the scoreboard first. But then Joe Flacco

1244
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 5: to David and Joku. So we have a tie game

1245
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 5: seven to seven in Cleveland. We're headed to halftime in

1246
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 5: that one. It's been fun so far.

1247
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 8: It started slow and now we're getting a rhythm here.

1248
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: Fellas what happens every week, mind set. We see yere like,

1249
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: oh man, we're going to get a game, and all

1250
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: of a sudden, all hell breaks loose. Great stuff is

1251
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: always mind see Jez. By the way, Tyreek Hill being

1252
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: out today, so he is four hundred and fifty eight

1253
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: yards away from two thousand receiving yards, which has never

1254
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 2: been done before. Calvin Johnson holds the all time record

1255
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: over nineteen hundred yards. But you know, we thought Tyreek

1256
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: Hill really had a great shot. Now four hundred and

1257
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: fifty eight yards. That would be averaging a little over

1258
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty yards a game for the last

1259
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: three games. Because this guy is capable of doing that

1260
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: in a half, as we know with Tyreek Hill. So yeah,

1261
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the thing when we talk about

1262
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: some of these records, Oh, he's going to break the record.

1263
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: Do you know how many times over the years I

1264
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: have sat with my dear friend Eric Dickerson when somebody

1265
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: is predicting that his record of two and five rushing

1266
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: yards in the season he's going to go down. And

1267
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: it's almost forty years now that record has still held up. Yeah, yeah,

1268
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: and probably well, I mean as little as people are

1269
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: running the ball these days that may go to distance,

1270
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: who's going to get over two thousand yards rushing in

1271
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: the way they play the game these days?

1272
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's look sports can be cyclical, yep, like

1273
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: you times where it looks like we will never see

1274
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 3: a return of a certain style of play, and then

1275
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, we see a team or a

1276
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 3: couple of teams have success, and then all of a

1277
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 3: sudden it changes again. It can it can revert. And

1278
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: also remember rule changes have a lot to do with this.

1279
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: I mean, football looks vastly different than it did even

1280
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: when I finished playing in the NFL and twenty fourteen.

1281
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I was it nine years ago, I retire.

1282
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 3: The game has changed so much in that time. The

1283
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 3: run game is so much less important now than it

1284
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: was even back then. We're talking about less than a decade.

1285
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 3: Imagine what this sport looks like in two decades. I mean,

1286
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 3: how many more you know, violent plays are going to

1287
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 3: be legislated out We're at a point right now where

1288
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 3: you're not allowed to hip drop tackle potentially next season.

1289
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: Well if that's the case, I mean, isn't it going

1290
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: to be harder to tackle running? You know, maybe the

1291
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 3: run game makes a resurgence at some point because the

1292
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: rule changes get to the point where now defenders can't

1293
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Speaker 3: tackle ball carriers the way they used to be able to.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, man, I it's it's a knee

1295
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: jerk reaction. It's easy to say this record will never

1296
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Speaker 3: fall or this this you know, touchdown record will never

1297
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 3: be beat because we see this all the time time

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Speaker 3: March is on.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you one thing we've seen so far today,

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Speaker 2: and that is a lack of scoring. I mean to

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Speaker 2: look at some of these scores. Falcons over the Panthers

1302
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: seven to three at the half, Saints over the Giants

1303
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: seven to six at the half, seven to seven, Bears

1304
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 2: and Browns nearly at the half. So scoring is down

1305
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: this year in the National Football League. And usually what

1306
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: this league does, and they do it as well as

1307
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: any league out there if they see a trend because

1308
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: scoring is popular, I mean on so many fronts visually,

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01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: if you're just watching a game, you want to see

1310
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 2: some scoring. Fantasy football, you need scoring, you need it,

1311
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: I mean you need scoring. So as they evaluate this

1312
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Speaker 2: season and this downward trend, market downward trend as far

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Speaker 2: as scoring as concerned, rules changes can be made, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of different ways to go about it to

1315
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: try to increase scoring. How do they go about this

1316
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 2: because this is not a good trend for the National

1317
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: Football It's just not a good look. And you could say, well,

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Speaker 2: that's because we've lost so many starting quarterbacks Well, that's

1319
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: another problem. How do you say that you've done all

1320
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Speaker 2: these rule changes to seemingly protect the quarterback, and yet

1321
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't remember a season starting with the Aaron Rodgers

1322
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: injury in the very first game, where we've lost so

1323
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Speaker 2: many big name quarterbacks during the course of the season.

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Speaker 2: How can they change this? Rich?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, there's a lot of different reasons

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Speaker 3: for injuries, and I don't think it's completely I don't

1327
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 3: think it's completely related to anything necessarily. I mean, there's

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01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 3: an argument to be made that we've seen an increase

1329
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Speaker 3: in injuries, but I We'll see. We need trends. We

1330
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 3: don't need just one off seasons to make decisions. We

1331
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 3: have to see what the trend looks like after five years,

1332
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 3: ten years, fifteen years before we can say for certain

1333
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 3: if any of these rule changes have led to more

1334
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Speaker 3: quarterback injuries. What I can tell you is this quarterback

1335
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: play definitely has suffered in the NFL, and the biggest

1336
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 3: reason for that is the inconsistency with coaching and with

1337
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: the players at these positions. Do you realize that before

1338
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 3: Tony Romo took over for the Dallas Cowboys, he sat

1339
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 3: as an undrafted free agent rookie, and then the two

1340
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,440
Speaker 3: years after that behind I believe it was Drew Bledsoe

1341
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 3: at the time, Bill Parcells and his offensive staff, they

1342
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: worked on him for years before he ever saw the field.

1343
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Speaker 2: Like there are just.

1344
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 3: Not many coaches in this league who are willing to

1345
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 3: make that commitment anymore because it's about what have you

1346
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 3: done for me.

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01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: Lately in this league. So there's not a lot of people.

1348
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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of coaching. I don't blame there.

1349
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of front office.

1350
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 3: People who are willing to bring in players to develop them,

1351
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: to keep them on the back burner, to wait until

1352
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 3: they're ready to give them an opportunity to play at

1353
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 3: this level. And as a result, what you're seeing is

1354
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 3: guys rushed onto the football field in very simplified offenses,

1355
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 3: and as a result, it's easier for defenses to defend.

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 3: And then with all the injuries this season, the offense

1357
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 3: has been further suppressed. So I don't know, those are

1358
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: two reasons that have been banging around in my head

1359
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: as potential answers to the question. But it has been

1360
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 3: a slower burn offensively this season than in years past.

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Speaker 2: It has been I mean I mean the numbers don't lie.

1362
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: I mean the scores are down this year as we

1363
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: had to have time with these games on the board

1364
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: right now, gives a chance to take a look ahead

1365
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: at some of the other games. I was talking about

1366
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 2: the Ravens earlier. More of a believer in the Ravens

1367
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 2: than you are. And again that's all predicated on a

1368
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Speaker 2: healthy Lamar Jackson. You have a healthy Lamar Jackson, the

1369
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: whole dynamic of the Ravens changes obviously. But you know

1370
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Speaker 2: they have the road game tonight against the Jaguars, and

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Speaker 2: the Jags are another team much like the Lions were,

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Speaker 2: although what the Lions did yesterday and blowing out the

1373
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: Broncos suddenly puts them back on the map. But we've

1374
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 2: been talking about both these teams that have risen from

1375
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: the dead, their playoff caliber teams. They've got quarterbacks that

1376
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: are playing well, but are they ready for prime time?

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Speaker 2: This is a huge game for the Jags, right I

1378
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: mean they're at home, They're in a precarious situation in

1379
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: their division suddenly, and they need to win this game.

1380
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 2: They're three and a half point dogs at home against

1381
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: this Ravens team. What kind of Jags team do you

1382
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Speaker 2: expect to show up tonight.

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Speaker 3: Well, Look, Doug Peterson, in my humble opinion.

1384
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: Is a great coach. I agree Trevor.

1385
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Speaker 3: Lawrence, in my opinion, is a great court And so

1386
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: when you can check both of those boxes, really special

1387
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 3: things can occur. And I think that the Jacksonville Jaguars

1388
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 3: have a good enough team to potentially make it a

1389
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: problem for teams that face them in the postseason, but

1390
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 3: they need to have a win like this late in

1391
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 3: the season for anybody to be believers, including the Jacks.

1392
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 3: Like we were just talking about the Buffalo Bills getting

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01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 3: that win over the Chiefs. They've been in a lot

1394
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 3: of close games, but they've had a lot of close

1395
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 3: losses this season. And Stefan Diggs or anybody else in

1396
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 3: that locker room for that matter, can say whatever they

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01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: want about what they think they.

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Speaker 2: Have inside that locker room.

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Speaker 3: We'll go back to all Bill Parcells quote, you are

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Speaker 3: what your record says you are. You know, so are

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01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 3: you gonna be that team in the case of the Bills,

1402
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 3: who can beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead and can make

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01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 3: a little noise at the end of season, build a

1404
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 3: little confidence heading into the postseason. Or you know, in

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01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 3: the case of the Jacksonville Jaguars tonight, are you gonna

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01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 3: be a team that folds up against our Do you

1407
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: believe the class of the AFC right now and kind

1408
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 3: of fade into the background as a potential division winner?

1409
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: Maybe it gets tougher there, Maybe you sneak in on

1410
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 3: the wild card. Maybe it gets tougher there. Yet, this

1411
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 3: is a hugely important game. And then tagging onto what

1412
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 3: Tom Ronaldi said to us about this Bill's Dallas game.

1413
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 3: I mean, two elite level offensive players in Dak Prescott

1414
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 3: and Josh Allen facing each other in the one thirty slate.

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01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: How about this?

1416
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean, we're really running out opportunities to see great

1417
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the regular season take each other on. But

1418
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 3: you got Lawrence and you got Lamar Jackson. This should

1419
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 3: be an exciting watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, where Jacksonville starts the day a half game

1421
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 2: ahead of those Indianapolis Colts, you know, Gardner Minshield getting

1422
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: the job done, and the Colts at eight and six,

1423
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: a half game behind this Jaguars team. I like the

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: Jags to show up tonight. I don't again, I've been

1425
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: riding the wave with Theves as long as Lamar Jackson's

1426
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: out there. Look at their point differential. They're a plus

1427
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 2: one forty three right now. The only teams in the

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01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: NFL with higher point differentials than the Ravens are the

1429
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers and the Cowboys. So it's not just

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01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: that they're winning. Like you said earlier, they've had a

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,839
Speaker 2: couple of ugly losses. The Cowboys had an ugly loss

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01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 2: to the Arizona Cardinals. By the way, isn't an amazing

1433
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: about the whole Joshua Dobbs situation in Minnesota?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we were riding this way for a

1436
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. He was the talk of the league

1437
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: and they benched him, and you know, it's like, this

1438
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 2: is the this is the point I've been trying to

1439
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 2: make really all week long about the quarterback position. Something

1440
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: is up, something isn't quite right. We just it was

1441
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: like a year ago, a couple of years ago, you

1442
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: and I were just talking about this infusion of all

1443
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: this great young quarterback down. When's the last time we've

1444
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: had There's many really legitimate outstanding quarterbacks in the league,

1445
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: and through injury and subpar play, all of a sudden,

1446
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 2: we're like, why are the quarterbacks. All right. On the

1447
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: other side, we're gonna get ready for the start of

1448
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: the second halfs around the National Football League, which games

1449
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: will end up going down to the wire for the answers,

1450
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: keep it here. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 10: Keetum takes the stamp Swinton down intercepting Titans forty thirty twenty.

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 2: Ten five zone hot Lie.

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Speaker 10: Touchdown Titan, donle work, Don work.

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Speaker 2: That's WGFX one ZH four point five Titans Radio Network.

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01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: Titans lead the Texans thirteen to six. No CJ straud

1456
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: for the Texans today case Keenum, don't ask, but they're

1457
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: still in the game. Defense is playing well. Titans over

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01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: the Texans thirteen to six, six and a half minutes

1459
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: to go in the third quarter. There Steve hartin Rich Ornberger.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Short's Red Zone Radio. We are live

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Speaker 2: from the tirerack dot Com studios. How about these Buccaneers

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: up twenty to ten on the road against Green Bay.

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01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: So the Packers have been playing well. You look at

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01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: this game, you're like, yeah, the Bucks. I know they're

1465
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 2: battling for somebody trying to win that division. But Packers

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01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: are playing well. Playing at home. There should be a

1467
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,959
Speaker 2: Packer victory, and right now the Packers are playing ketchup

1468
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 2: on the road at home against the Bucks. Yeah. Well,

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01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: I didn't look at it that way.

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Speaker 3: I didn't look at it as being an easy game

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Speaker 3: for Green Bay. I looked at it as being a

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01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: really fortuitous spot to have Tampa bay Land on your

1473
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 3: schedule because Jordan Love has been playing up to the

1474
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 3: caliber of a first round draft pick. He looks like

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01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: he's going to be the future quarterback for the Green

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 3: Bay Packers.

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Speaker 2: And that's all the good news.

1478
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 3: The bad news is Tampa Bay is a hot football team,

1479
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: and they've played some really good games this season, even

1480
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 3: in losses. So this is a tough out for Green Bay.

1481
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 3: They've been good at home this season, but trailing by

1482
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 3: ten at Lambeau here in the third quarter.

1483
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: All right, the Chiefs and the Patriots. So the Patriots

1484
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: defense played tough, so tough series of downs for Travis

1485
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: Kelsey had one ball go off his hands. I don't

1486
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: know what he was doing. He's trying to push off

1487
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 2: to fake a pass interference. Didn't play. They got a

1488
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: field goal, So Patriots get the ball back. Zappi's first

1489
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 2: pass intercepted and suddenly the Chiefs have the ball right

1490
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 2: back and touchdown Chiefs as we speak right now. So

1491
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: just what it looked like. Maybe the Patriots can keep

1492
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: it close, get in there key turnover deep in their

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01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: own end zone and of course own in their own zone,

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01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 2: and you know, let's face it, Mahomes is going to

1495
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: take advantage, and they did that. Edwards Hilaire with the

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 2: reception for the touchdowns, so twenty three to ten Chiefs

1497
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: on the road, penning the extra point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hilaire has had a busy day today, especially in

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01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 3: the passing game. So a touchdown there after a huge

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01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: screen pass in the first quarter of this game for Laire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 3: Look, you know you can't keep a good quarterback down

1503
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 3: for very long in this league. They're going to find

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01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 3: a way. I mean, that's the reason why for weeks

1505
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 3: what I was saying about Josh Allen is this national

1506
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 3: narrative that Josh Allen has regressed an incredible mount and

1507
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 3: you know, this Bill's offense and this and that. I

1508
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 3: understand they had to make some changes, tough choices. Ken

1509
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 3: Dorsey gets canned, and I know that Allen felt somewhat

1510
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 3: responsible for that, But the reality of the situation is

1511
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 3: the Bills don't have a Josh Allen problem the same

1512
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 3: way the Chiefs will never have a Patrick Mahomes problem.

1513
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 3: The problem is to help you put around those quarterbacks,

1514
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: whether that be from a special teams or defense standpoint,

1515
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 3: or the offense, the caliber of offensive player around them.

1516
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's injuries and sometimes, in the case of the

1517
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, it's been poor play. Travis Kelcey has looked

1518
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 3: off at times this season. He's been heard at times

1519
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 3: there's been injuries to the receiving corps and then there

1520
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: have just been flat out drops on game winning receptions

1521
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 3: in multiple games this season.

1522
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 2: For Kansas City. The Giants are without Tommy DeVito for

1523
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: the moment, he was taking out concussion protocol to Rod,

1524
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,839
Speaker 2: don't call me Tyrod Taylor and a quarterback for the Giants.

1525
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 2: But they're down fourteen to six on the road to

1526
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: the Saints again, a team that is battling right now

1527
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: to get into the postseason. Derek Carrs had an outstanding

1528
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 2: game today, sixteen of nineteen, one hundred and fifty three yards,

1529
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 2: two touchdowns and no picks. You know, when you look

1530
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 2: at the NFC right now, remember we used to say, well,

1531
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,440
Speaker 2: If you really want to be in the wildcard conversation,

1532
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to win ten games. We could look

1533
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: at two wildcard teams. Wildcard teams in the NFC with

1534
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: nine to eight records, Oh yeah, easily, easily. You know,

1535
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: the AFC looks like it probably would be around ten

1536
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: and seven to be a wild card, but we could

1537
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 2: get two nine and eight teams because they're top heavy.

1538
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 2: You got four teams right now. You got the forty

1539
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: nine ers, you got the Lions, you got the Cowboys

1540
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: and the Eagles, all with ten wins. No other team

1541
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 2: in the NFC has more than seven wins.

1542
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: Well, let me let me put it to you this way.

1543
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 3: I'm I know there's a lot of people who complain

1544
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 3: about this and belly ache about this. I'm fine if

1545
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 3: you have playoff teams with winning records. Where this gets

1546
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 3: wonky is where you could have an eight to nine

1547
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 3: division winner, yeah, or a seven to ten division winner.

1548
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: And get a home game and yeah, and then all of.

1549
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 3: A sudden, it's like Dallas facing Tampa Bay and Tampa

1550
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 3: with a losing record. Are you kidding me like that?

1551
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: That?

1552
01:19:54,600 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 3: To me, that smacks of a disappointing playoff equation. But

1553
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 3: but in terms of the wild card, as long as

1554
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 3: their nine win teams, you're not going to get too

1555
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 3: much argument out of me. And it's a down year overall,

1556
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 3: especially at the bottom of the NFC.

1557
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, very competitive for these playoff spots. I don't know

1558
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: what it actually means. Like I said earlier on the

1559
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 2: NFC side, if the forty nine ers stay healthy, all right,

1560
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 2: at home, he can punch their ticket to the super Bowl.

1561
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 2: All right, we continue on now, We're gonna get some

1562
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 2: exciting finishes. That's a guarantee for all the latest. Keep

1563
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: it right here. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

1564
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 12: Mahomes look plump, faking now turns left, Chase flits it

1565
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 12: for the back of the end zone.

1566
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 2: Tough Clyde Edwards Hilaire touchdown.

1567
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 12: Chanzu st Ceh nine and a half yards deep in

1568
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 12: the end zone, went up the elevator to get a

1569
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 12: six yard reception from Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs lead

1570
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:48,919
Speaker 12: by thirteen.

1571
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 2: That's one OO six point five the Wolf and the

1572
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 2: Chiefs Radio network. Chiefs lead the Patriots on the road

1573
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 2: twenty four to ten a little over six minutes to

1574
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 2: go in the third quarter of that game. This is

1575
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1580
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Speaker 2: One thing about Rich over the years is that he's

1581
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 2: always going to be put a positive spin on the

1582
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: Patriots as long as he possibly can. Okay, long as

1583
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 2: I can, as long as you possibly can. And earlier

1584
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: in the show, you're even talking about rattling off five

1585
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 2: straight wins at the end of the season. Let's take

1586
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 2: the opposite route. Let's say they don't win another game. Yeah,

1587
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: we finished very possible, and they could go three and fourteen,

1588
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: and they part ways. The Patriots and Bill Belichick at

1589
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 2: age seventy two, which is how old Bill would be

1590
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: next season. His legacy obviously securities on the Mount rushmore

1591
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: of the greatest coaches in the history of the National

1592
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: Football League. Again, the only way I can judge that

1593
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 2: is by wins, and he's won more Super Bowls than

1594
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 2: any one else. Do you honestly believe that he if

1595
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: given an opportunity would start over again with another franchise.

1596
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 3: I think it's possible. I don't know if I could

1597
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 3: see Bill retired, especially look, I things can change. I mean,

1598
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 3: an offseason can change you, especially if there's less interest

1599
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 3: in Bill Belichick than maybe we're thinking.

1600
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 2: There will be.

1601
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, could I see it being the

1602
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 3: end of the line, Yeah, sure I could. He is,

1603
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 3: after all, a seventy year old man, and I don't

1604
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 3: know how much longer he really has to coach at

1605
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 3: this level, just in terms of age, you know, I mean,

1606
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 3: an energy level and desire to want to do this.

1607
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm not seventy, but I can

1608
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 3: tell you I look at life vastly differently in my

1609
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 3: late thirties than I did in my late twenties. I

1610
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 3: imagine when I make it to seven, I'm going to

1611
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 3: feel vastly differently then than I do now. So it's

1612
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 3: just one of those things where perspective can can change,

1613
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 3: and it can change in a hurry, especially depending on

1614
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 3: the circumstances. You know, if he gets fired by the

1615
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 3: Patriots or if they part ways quote unquote, that could

1616
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 3: change a lot of that. The calculus inside of his

1617
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 3: head we'll see what happens. But if I had my

1618
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 3: guests today, you know, middle December season still going on

1619
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 3: here in twenty twenty three, if if the Patriots want

1620
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 3: to move on from him, he's not going to be

1621
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 3: ready to move on from football, and so he is

1622
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 3: going to immediately make it known that he's looking for

1623
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 3: his next job, you know. So whether it be the

1624
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 3: Washington Commanders, if they move off of Ron Rivere or

1625
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: you know, or want to hire him as their next

1626
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 3: head coach, I should say, Or if it's you know,

1627
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 3: one of these teams like the Los Angeles Chargers, which

1628
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 3: a lot of people are talking about, I don't really

1629
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 3: see that as being the case though.

1630
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 2: Or can I stop you with the Chargers here, because okay,

1631
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 2: I think we are all in agreement. The one higher

1632
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: the Chargers could make that would make a huge splash

1633
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: in LA would be Jim Harbaugh. But the asking price

1634
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: is going to be through the roof Michigan obviously is

1635
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: going to offer him untold amount of money to stay

1636
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 2: at Michigan. He's going to use that leverage to really

1637
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 2: jack up the price, and it just would be very

1638
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 2: uncharger like, especially since they still have to pay off

1639
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: the remainder of Brandon Staley's contract for them to throw

1640
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 2: that kind of money around. But if you're the Chargers

1641
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 2: right now, you think about what Belichick brings to the table.

1642
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 2: Forget the wins and losses. First of all, he brings defense, right,

1643
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 2: and this team desperately needs a defensive overhaul. They have pieces,

1644
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: but whatever system they were trying to use under Staley,

1645
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 2: they had the wrong pieces. So that would be a

1646
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: correction in the right direction on the defensive side. And

1647
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: then as far as a quarterback, he hasn't had a

1648
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 2: quarterback since Brady left that is anywhere near the talent

1649
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: that a Justin Herbert would have. I don't know how

1650
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: much buzzer would be for Belichick. I mean there would

1651
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: be an initial curiosity factor, like really hired Belichick. I mean,

1652
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: it's not been all that great since Brady left. But

1653
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: could you see him in the La Market no, doing

1654
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: his thing standing next to Dean Spanos, No, dude, I'm

1655
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 2: with you, man, I just don't see that look.

1656
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 3: And also, look, Belichick also pays attention to history. Yes, right,

1657
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: So the reason why the Washington Commanders make sense to

1658
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 3: me is go back to the eighties. You know, Joe Gibbs, Yep, Joe, thisman,

1659
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 3: Mark Rippin, the Super Bowl winning Hoggs, you know, the

1660
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,480
Speaker 3: offensive line, Russ Grinn.

1661
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 2: Doug Williams, making history.

1662
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like like I think, I think a place like

1663
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 3: Washington matches Belichick, Chicago, you know, the Hollis family, the

1664
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 3: oldest rivalry in the NFL, between the Green Bay Packers

1665
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 3: and the Bears, Soldier Field, lambeau Field, like some of

1666
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 3: some of the great games that have been played historically

1667
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 3: in that division. Like that makes sense to me going

1668
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: out to LA to play for to excuse me, to

1669
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 3: coach for the Chargers.

1670
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: It just it doesn't think he's gonna follow the Ormberger

1671
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 2: legacy with the Chargers. That's what you're talking about, Hallas.

1672
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 2: You're talking about Joe Giz But what about the Ormberger

1673
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: legacy with the Chargers. That's not enough to entice him

1674
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 2: to put the bolt on.

1675
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 3: I would imagine it would. I would imagine it's going

1676
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 3: to be discussed. I don't think it's going to be

1677
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 3: the biggest, the biggest topic.

1678
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: Points he wear a hoodie indoors at so far, Oh

1679
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: of course please well but but you get my point.

1680
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 3: And also, I mean, think about think about the price tag,

1681
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 3: like you just were talking about Jim Harba being expensive.

1682
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick is probably making upwards of twenty million dollars

1683
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 3: annually to be the head coach in New England.

1684
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 2: Are you upset as a player where every single players

1685
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: salary is very much public knowledge and yet no coaches salaries?

1686
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 2: We guess is all we do on how much a

1687
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 2: coach makes in the NFL. That's by design. I know

1688
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: it's by design, but why well, it's it's it's so.

1689
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 3: That management can make it very clear to to the

1690
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 3: fans how much money these greedy players are making. So

1691
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 3: when they hold out and when they say that they're underpaid,

1692
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 3: you can get the fan base on your side if

1693
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 3: you're the front office. That's the reason why they're made public,

1694
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 3: you know. And and in terms of the coaching staff, yeah,

1695
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 3: owners they don't want to share that information because either

1696
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: they don't they're embarrassed, they don't want other owners to

1697
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 3: know how much they're spending on their head coach, or

1698
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 3: or you know, from the other standpoint, like you don't

1699
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 3: really want your locker room knowing how little you're paying coach.

1700
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 3: So coach getting paid what three million dollars a year,

1701
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 3: you know, is a player earning you know, four times

1702
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 3: that amount of money, or shoot, in certain cases, ten

1703
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 3: times amount of that money, fifteen times that amount of money.

1704
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 3: Really gonna listen to a guy who's making three million

1705
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 3: dollars a year. Who's more important the guy who's making

1706
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 3: thirty or the guy who's making three. So I think

1707
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 3: that's part of the reason why those coaching salaries are

1708
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 3: kept under wraps all right.

1709
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 2: Game of the Day from a quarterback standpoint so far

1710
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: belongs to Baker Mayfield. Twenty of twenty six, three hundred

1711
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 2: and eighteen yards, three touchdowns, no picks, A perfect passer

1712
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 2: rating is one fifty eight point three. He's at one

1713
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 2: point fifty five point six and the Buccaneers have a

1714
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 2: ten point lead on the road against the Packers. By

1715
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: the way, Jordan Love has played not quite to the

1716
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 2: Mayfield level, but pretty close. He's also twenty at twenty six,

1717
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 2: only one hundred ninety one yards, but two touchdowns and

1718
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: no picks. But once again we talked about this with

1719
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield making his case that the Buccaneers have found

1720
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: their quarterback. Do not go back into the draft. You

1721
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 2: got a guy with an established track record and it's working,

1722
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: especially if this Bucks team actually finds their way into

1723
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 2: the postseason. Yeah.

1724
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 3: Look, Baker Mayfield's a baller. So is Jordan Love. Though

1725
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: I mean late in the season. I really at the

1726
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 3: halfway point, it felt like Jordan Love finally settled in

1727
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 3: and it finally felt like he had in some ways

1728
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: unsheathed themselves from the shadow that Aaron Rodgers casted. I

1729
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 3: will say this about Aaron Rodgers. He did make it

1730
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 3: easier for Jordan Love because he made it such a

1731
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 3: bumpy ride at the end of his tenure in Green

1732
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 3: Bay that I think there were as many fans eager

1733
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,879
Speaker 3: for him to leave as there were wanting him to stay.

1734
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 2: Sort of like with Brett fav ed it off to

1735
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, I completely agree with that.

1736
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 9: That.

1737
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 2: I mean for people who remember bumpy finished for far

1738
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: Oh it was the worst. Remember SNL spoofed it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1739
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:18,879
Speaker 2: they had him. He actually had commercials spoofing his own unretirement. Correct.

1740
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I do think that Jordan Love it actually

1741
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 3: was made. The red carpet, in a very awkward way,

1742
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 3: was rolled out for him by Aaron Rodgers to take

1743
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 3: over as a fan favorite in Green Bay. And look again,

1744
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 3: if they lose this football game is at the end

1745
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 3: of the world.

1746
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 2: No, does it mean that.

1747
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 3: Their playoff hopes diminish greatly?

1748
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 2: Yes?

1749
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 3: But have they found their franchise quarterback? I think the

1750
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 3: answer can still be yes, even if they lose today.

1751
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 2: Hey, don't look now, but the Carolina Panthers could actually

1752
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 2: take a lead in a game. They have a second

1753
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 2: and one right now at the four yard line of

1754
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: the Falcons. They ran a straight handoff for a three

1755
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 2: yard law us. That's not a good play right there,

1756
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 2: Bryce Young? I mean wow, I mean it just a

1757
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 2: straight and off and the guy gets buried. Bryce Young

1758
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: thirteen of eighteen, just ninety nine yards passing in this game.

1759
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 2: Atlanta needs this game again. The Saints are winning, the

1760
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 2: Buccaneers are winning, and if the Falcons lose on the

1761
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 2: road to the Panthers, uh oh, could take them right

1762
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: out of that chase for that elusive NFC South title.

1763
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 2: I we continue on right now. We're heading the fourth

1764
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:36,959
Speaker 2: quarters around the National Football League seven games in progress.

1765
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 2: We got all the updates you need. This is Fox Sports,

1766
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio and Joe Colin Motion out of the

1767
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 2: right punch set. So the numbers left is I'mari Cooper

1768
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 2: throw bleco hit.

1769
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 13: By Edwards into the hands. I bet there's putting the

1770
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 13: right thirty twenty five hits on the twenty ten end

1771
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 13: zone touchdown, touchdown Bears.

1772
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: That's the Bears Radio network, and the Bears with the

1773
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 2: pick six have taken US seventeen to seven lead on

1774
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 2: the road against the Browns. By the way, Rich, these

1775
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 2: are the last three offensive possessions for the Browns with

1776
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. You just heard that. That was the first

1777
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 2: play of that series, pick six. They get the ball back,

1778
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 2: three plays, seven yards punt. Next time three plays negative

1779
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 2: ten yards punt. Browns six and one at home this year,

1780
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 2: they cannot lose this game at home to the Bears,

1781
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 2: but they're in trouble five minutes ago in the third quarter,

1782
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 2: Chicago leading seventeen to seven. By the way, this is

1783
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We're live from the tire

1784
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,640
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1785
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,600
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1786
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,240
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1787
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,040
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1788
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,120
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1789
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,360
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1790
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,360
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1791
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 2: off the So the Brown's Rich in trouble.

1792
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and we started the conversation this morning with

1793
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 3: this Bears Browns game talking about Joe Flacco and what

1794
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 3: he cannot do. The one thing Joe Flacco cannot do

1795
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 3: is give games away. And I understand Montes Sweat, who

1796
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 3: right now, unless I missed one, has five and a

1797
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 3: half sacks over his six games with the Bears, and

1798
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 3: he's got one in this game as well, has just

1799
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 3: really lit it up for Chicago since making this making

1800
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 3: this trade with the Commanders, I mean, it's incredible how

1801
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 3: different their their front seven, their pass rush looks with

1802
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 3: Sweat up front. But getting back to Flacco, you're gonna

1803
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 3: see that pressure. I mean, you play in the AFCD North,

1804
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 3: that's you know, TJ. Watt territory, you know the Baltimore defense.

1805
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 3: You gotta be able to withstand the pressure. And if

1806
01:33:55,760 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 3: you can't take the sack, don't don't throw it to

1807
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 3: the other team, because then you have no chance. Then

1808
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 3: your defense can't keep you in it because you're shooting

1809
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 3: yourselves in the foot.

1810
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 2: Boy, you want to hear some ugly numbers. So the

1811
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 2: Titans and the Texans, Texans without CJ. Stroud today, they're

1812
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 2: hanging in despite the fact they're getting almost nothing out

1813
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 2: of case Keenum today. Actually, Devin Singletary's had a pretty

1814
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 2: good game on the ground. But for Tennessee leading this

1815
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 2: game thirteen to nine, twelve minutes to go in the

1816
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, Derrick Henry twelve carries for five yards. Does

1817
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 2: that even seem possible? He's averaging zero point four yards

1818
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 2: of carry. He's had twelve carries for five yards. Oh

1819
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:40,799
Speaker 2: my gosh.

1820
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1821
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 3: Oh man, Look, there there were times in the very

1822
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 3: recent past where you and I we look at each

1823
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 3: other watching some of these games and we'd say, yeah,

1824
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 3: but it's fourth quarter. Derrick Henry time, like he's about

1825
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 3: to rattle off a forty or seventy yard touchdown. Run

1826
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 3: just wears teams out, So it doesn't matter what his

1827
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 3: stats look like even halfway through the third quarter. Don't

1828
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 3: judge him early, judge him. Waite, do you still have

1829
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 3: that same feeling around Derek Henry anymore?

1830
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 2: No, it's long gone. Yeah, it's on. I mean, you know,

1831
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 2: he's he's had a Hall of Fame career, but it

1832
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 2: is over. I'll tell you, he's had a hot day.

1833
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 2: Derek Carr another touchdown pass and the Saints are pulling

1834
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 2: away right now inside elevemnusgo on the fourth quarter, twenty

1835
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 2: four to six over the Giants. Derek Carr twenty three

1836
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 2: of twenty seven, two hundred and eighteen yards, three touchdown passes,

1837
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 2: no picks. So the Saints getting the job done and

1838
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 2: looking like they're well on their way to getting back

1839
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 2: to seven and seven on the season. Doesn't sound great,

1840
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: but at least for the moment, it could be enough

1841
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,679
Speaker 2: to lead that NFC South.

1842
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look, the NFC South. It feels like it's

1843
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 3: gonna be a limp to the finish line, but who knows.

1844
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 3: Any one of these teams could potentially catch fire, and

1845
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 3: if it is New New Orleans, if somehow they figure

1846
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 3: it out and they become the team that they were

1847
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,560
Speaker 3: supposed to be this season. With Derek Carr quarterback, and

1848
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 3: I understand he's dealt with injuries and it hasn't been

1849
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 3: you know, all his fault. There have been other issues too.

1850
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 3: It'll make sense, you know, the postseason will make sense, even.

1851
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 2: If they're a nine win team.

1852
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 3: You know, ten win teams probably at this point asking

1853
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 3: for too much. But a nine win football team. If

1854
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 3: New Orleans is hosting somebody and it's Derek Carr at

1855
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 3: the Helm and they have a little bit of momentum

1856
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 3: heading into the postseason, that makes sense.

1857
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if it makes as much sense with

1858
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 2: the Falcons or Tampa Bay.

1859
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Bakers played great this season, but it felt

1860
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 3: like this was supposed to finish with New Orleans on top.

1861
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 3: So if it ends up finishing that way, I guess

1862
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You know, the ends

1863
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 3: justify the means, I guess, is the point I'm trying to.

1864
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 2: Make, all right, for the Jets, who are trailing the

1865
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 2: Dolphins twenty seven to nothing, not a shot fucking score.

1866
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 2: I mean, the Dolphins again had been feasting on bad

1867
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 2: teams all season long, but we are now into the

1868
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 2: fourth quarter of this game and the Jets have forty

1869
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: seven total yards. Forty seven. I mean, forget the fact

1870
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 2: that Zach Wilson he came out of this game. I

1871
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 2: think he just wanted out. Trevor Simmions come in. They've

1872
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: both been awful. Ten to twenty two for thirty yards.

1873
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 2: How about Bresaw six carries for twelve yards. They don't

1874
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 2: even have a running game. You sure you want to

1875
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 2: come back Aaron Rodgers? I mean when you have an

1876
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 2: offensive line that's incapable of protecting your quarterback. Again, they

1877
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 2: have thirty yards net passing in this game, and then

1878
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 2: you don't have a running game to couple it. I mean,

1879
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 2: come on, I mean you talk about a sitting duck,

1880
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 2: and I don't know what kind of mobility Aaron Rodgers

1881
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 2: would have if he came back coming up that blown achilles.

1882
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 2: It really does seem like insanity, right, I get some

1883
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 2: point the organization has a step in and say, look eron, yeah,

1884
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 2: you know, we got you on a two year deal.

1885
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 2: This is a lost season. We'll see you fully healthy

1886
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: next year. You can't even let him on the field.

1887
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 2: I know Aaron's calling his own shots, but at some

1888
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 2: point you got to step in and say no, sorry,

1889
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 2: not happening.

1890
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully it's somebody who he'll listen to, right. I

1891
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,560
Speaker 3: don't know if there's anybody in the front office with

1892
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 3: the Jets who can tell him no, but maybe it's

1893
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 3: maybe it's Nathaniel Hackett. Maybe one of the best things

1894
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 3: that the Jets, you know, and we'll never know if

1895
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 3: this is the reason why he makes the decision not

1896
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 3: to play, but maybe if offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett.

1897
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 2: Who has a job with New York because of Aaron Rodgers.

1898
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,600
Speaker 2: By the way, how does he look as a coordinator

1899
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 2: without Aaron Rodgers as the quarterback? Oh my goodness. I

1900
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 2: mean it's just I mean, we saw Deva would have

1901
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 2: the last year. We've seen this year with the Jets.

1902
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about a guy who needs to

1903
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 2: be kissing the feet of Aaron Rodgers on a daily basis,

1904
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 2: it would be Hackett, right, yes, one percent.

1905
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 3: Also, look, see, I have such a tough time with

1906
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 3: this because I don't want to necessarily say the only

1907
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 3: reason why Nathaniel Hackett can coach in this league is

1908
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 3: because of Aaron Rodgers, because I don't know that to

1909
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 3: be necessarily true. But let's just put it this way.

1910
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 3: With incomplete evidence, it certainly appears that way.

1911
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 2: Well, he's had a whole year to figure out. You remember,

1912
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 2: you remember all the promise with the hard knocks about

1913
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, and you know he's going to work under

1914
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 2: the feet, you know, watching Aaron Rodgers. But you know

1915
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 2: the preseason he looked okay, right, and so you're like,

1916
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: oh right, And Aaron Rodgers was insisting when he went

1917
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 2: down with the injury, don't worry, They'll be okay. And

1918
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 2: you watch Hackett with Zach Wilson, and I know last

1919
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 2: week was like this aberration, like he had this unbelievable game.

1920
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 2: Well he is quickly reverted back to for him today,

1921
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 2: not even in this game, by the way, the Dolphins

1922
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 2: just added a field goal thirty to nothing. Dolphins. But

1923
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, you take Aaron Rodgers out of the equation.

1924
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Nathaniel Hackett hasn't shown all that much to

1925
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 2: me that he is some kind of offensive genius and

1926
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 2: can create something out of nothing. Because the Jets offense

1927
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 2: has been unbelievably bad this year.

1928
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it look without Aaron Rodgers. And what's so weird

1929
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 3: to say about that? Aaron played four plays for the

1930
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 3: New York Jets. Yes, right, so this whole season, this

1931
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 3: whole season has been without Aaron Rodgers.

1932
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 2: So yes, there there's plenty of time to figure this

1933
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 2: out the first month of the season.

1934
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I'd be reeling too if I'm

1935
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 3: the Thaniel Hackett if I'm the Jets offense. I mean,

1936
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 3: it felt like a funeral when there were when the

1937
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,719
Speaker 3: players were being interviewed after that game, that opener against

1938
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:05,799
Speaker 3: the Bills. I remember what's his name, Wilson, his young receiver,

1939
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 3: talking about him like it was like someone had just

1940
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 3: passed away, you know it was it was they were

1941
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 3: mourning immediately what happened to Aaron Rodgers. But Aaron Rodgers,

1942
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 3: that happened week one of the NFL season. It is

1943
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 3: week fifteen, So I'm with you, man, this is a

1944
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:26,719
Speaker 3: big boy sport. Everybody in the buildings, they know what's

1945
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 3: on the line, and they know what's expected. When it's

1946
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 3: week fifteen and your offense really doesn't look much better

1947
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 3: than it did week two, there's a huge issue with that. Now,

1948
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, if he wants Nathaniel Hackett, guess what. Nathaniel

1949
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 3: Hackett will be back, because again I think he's calling

1950
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 3: all the shots in New York right now, and Robert

1951
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 3: Sala he's probably thanking his stars that he's got Aaron

1952
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 3: Rodgers for next year because it may save his job too,

1953
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 3: if Aaron likes him.

1954
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 2: But outside of that, I don't really, I don't.

1955
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 3: See much keeping this staff together, especially if next year

1956
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 3: is anywhere equaling the disappointment that this year was.

1957
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield just threw his fourth touchdown pass of the game.

1958
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 2: David Moore. Was a short pass. Two Packer defenders ran

1959
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 2: into each other and he goes the distance fifty two

1960
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 2: yards for the score. So Tampa Bay increasing their laid

1961
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 2: to two scores on the road against the Packers. Let's

1962
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:29,799
Speaker 2: find out what is trending right now and well Montcie,

1963
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 2: it's not been the most electric day in the National

1964
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 2: Football League, no little bits and pieces at best.

1965
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 8: Moments, yeah, and all terrible. The moments I mean, Baker

1966
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 8: Mayfield is you just mentioned it. He's throwing the vaull

1967
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 8: to everybody.

1968
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:44,600
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

1969
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 5: The day he's having, Yeah, HETEs making sure everybody gets

1970
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 5: a little bit of the love.

1971
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:50,759
Speaker 8: The four touchdown passes.

1972
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't.

1973
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 8: He's on my bench, guys, He's on my bench.

1974
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 2: By the way, I have a cool Mayfield with Mayfield

1975
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 2: with that touchdown twenty to twenty eight, three hundred and

1976
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 2: eighty one yards, four touchdowns, so no picks. Officially, he

1977
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 2: now has a perfect faster RATINGSKA.

1978
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 3: But you are starting Josh Allen, Yes, oh you're fine. Yeah,

1979
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 3: I think I think Allen's gonna go off.

1980
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 2: I think so too. You know how, how is that

1981
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 2: genas Smith did against the Cowboys?

1982
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 8: Right right, right, right right? That's what I'm going for exactly.

1983
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 5: But go Baker Mayfield that Yeah, the Bucks are beating

1984
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 5: the Packers.

1985
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 8: I don't think my score has updated just yet.

1986
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 2: What is it?

1987
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 5: Thirty four now to twenty is on the score? Yep,

1988
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 5: thirty four to twenty the Bears in the Browns. It

1989
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 5: was interesting for a hot second, but Joe Flacco has

1990
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 5: struggled three interceptions in this game. He's thrown for one

1991
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty two yards and one touchdown. But the

1992
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,759
Speaker 5: Bears with the pick six are all over the Browns

1993
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 5: at this point. Seventeen seven is a score they're about

1994
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 5: to start the fourth quarter. That tightens up on the

1995
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 5: Texas sixteen to nine halfway through the fourth and that one.

1996
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 5: It really has been all Dolphins despite no Tyreek kill.

1997
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 5: I mean Raheem Moster with two touchdowns nineteen and twenty

1998
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 5: on the season. Jalen Waddle eight receptions, one hundred and

1999
01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 5: forty two yards and one touchdown in the air from

2000
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,640
Speaker 5: to a Togo bay loa and they're up on the

2001
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 5: Jets thirty to.

2002
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 8: Zero early in the fourth.

2003
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,799
Speaker 5: Now, apparently Zach Wilson is out with a head injury,

2004
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 5: but he's not in concussion protocol. Make what you want

2005
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 5: of that. But Trevor Simon is in the game. Thirty

2006
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 5: zero is the score. Chiefs up on the Patriots twenty

2007
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 5: seven to ten. Early in the fourth. The Saints have

2008
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 5: extended their lead. Derek Carr you mentioned that also having

2009
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 5: a pretty good game. He's thrown another touchdown pass. So

2010
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,679
Speaker 5: the Saints are up twenty four to six against the Giants,

2011
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 5: and the Falcons are beating the Panther seven to six.

2012
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 5: The Panthers just intercepted a pass from Desmond Ritters. See

2013
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 5: if they can actually get the ball going. Six minutes

2014
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 5: left in that one for the games to come. Defensive

2015
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 5: tackle Aaron Donald is active against the Commanders for the Rams.

2016
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 8: Despite the growing injury.

2017
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 5: Cornerbacks ste Von Gilmour and wide receiver Brandon Cooks, who

2018
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,440
Speaker 5: have been battling a stomach bug, are active.

2019
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,560
Speaker 8: For the Cowboys as they take on the Bills. No

2020
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 8: update yet on Eagles quarterback Jaalen Hurts.

2021
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 5: Remember he's now questionable for Monday night's game in Seattle

2022
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 5: due to illness. Everybody is sick, but he did travel

2023
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 5: with the team separately so that nobody else gets sick.

2024
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 5: Positive news for Bengals fans because receiver Jamar Chase suffered

2025
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 5: a sprained ac joint in his shoulder in Saturday's afternoon

2026
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 5: overtime went over the Vikings. It seems like it's not

2027
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 5: that bad because now he's just day to day.

2028
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 8: Is the latest report. And you guys were talking about

2029
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 8: Jets quarterback.

2030
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 5: Yes, he is likely, according to ESPN, going to be

2031
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 5: medically cleared to play next Sunday against Washington, but obviously

2032
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 5: that was going to determine on whether the Jets had

2033
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 5: any playoff hopes.

2034
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:29,839
Speaker 8: I don't see that happening.

2035
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:32,639
Speaker 5: So even though he might be cleared, I don't think

2036
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 5: we're gonna see mister Aarons.

2037
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 2: But we shouldn't. Again, if if Rich is right, and

2038
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 2: I believe he is, that call will one hundred percent

2039
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 2: be on Aaron Rodgers. Yeah.

2040
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,560
Speaker 5: No, of course, I think if you tell him no,

2041
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 5: he's and he wants to go out there, he's gonna

2042
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 5: go out there.

2043
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 2: All right. I mean, I mean it's crazy. We do

2044
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 2: not exaggerate how bad this offensive line is.

2045
01:45:58,920 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 8: No, no, it's real bad.

2046
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean really Yeah.

2047
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 8: Yes, I wouldn't want to go out there.

2048
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 2: No, no, I would not want to. I don't know

2049
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 2: any quarterback in this league. Honestly. What's the Zach Wilson story? Like,

2050
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 2: did he just check out of this game? Or no?

2051
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 2: He has a head injury. He has a headache.

2052
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 8: And they're saying it's not that he is not in

2053
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 8: concussion protocol, but that then what is he in?

2054
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:26,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's called a headache when you're getting hit repeatedly

2055
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 2: and sacked as many times as he got sacked. He

2056
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,480
Speaker 2: had as many sacks today as completions.

2057
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, he's probably like, y'all, my head hurts, My

2058
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 5: head hurts, My head hurts.

2059
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 2: Trevor, you're in buddy, Get out there, get out there.

2060
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 2: Good luck? All right, Monzi, thank you very much. Check

2061
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 2: with you a little bit later on. Meanwhile, Oh, by

2062
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 2: the way, this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve

2063
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 2: Hartbin and Rich Ornberger. Three picks for Flacco. It's going

2064
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 2: sideways on him, man.

2065
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, Yeah, just to comment on something

2066
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 3: that that months he was just discussing Zach Wilson going

2067
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 3: back to the locker room to get hydrated, which was

2068
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 3: the report, and then getting ruled out with a non

2069
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 3: concussion head injury. Maybe the first time I've ever heard

2070
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 3: of that in my entire life. Yeah, so, okay, there's

2071
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 3: two reasons why this happened. Okay, and maybe there are

2072
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 3: more reasons other people can come up with, but here

2073
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 3: are the two that make the most sense to me.

2074
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 3: Wilson didn't want to finish this game, and the Jets

2075
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 3: were reluctant to call this a concussion because maybe he

2076
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 3: didn't have a concussion. Okay, So how can you call

2077
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:45,560
Speaker 3: it a concussion if he went through the protocol and

2078
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:47,600
Speaker 3: they're like, no, you're cleared, You're good to go, and

2079
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 3: he goes, well, I'm not going back in.

2080
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I said, I don't blame him, pretty honest. Okay,

2081
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 2: I mean all right. So that's one way this went down.

2082
01:47:56,360 --> 01:48:01,560
Speaker 3: The other way is maybe the Jets that's realizing that

2083
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 3: Zack Wilson is most likely their best chance to stay

2084
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 3: competitive in this game and not get their doors absolutely

2085
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 3: blown off. And you know, have especially on the heels

2086
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 3: of Brandon Staley getting fired losing sixty three to twenty one.

2087
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 2: To due respect, that's a reach. This game was out

2088
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 2: of hand from the kickoff of the game, but so so.

2089
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 3: I guess my point is maybe the Jets were there

2090
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 3: was a little monkey business here where it was kind

2091
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:33,719
Speaker 3: of like, okay, yeah, he's got a non concussion head injury.

2092
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 3: Maybe they were trying to buy themselves a little time

2093
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 3: to see if the symptoms would clear and the maybe

2094
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 3: there was a chance Zack Wilson back in the game.

2095
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 3: But either way, this is weird, and it's been weird

2096
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 3: in New York at the quarterback position the whole season.

2097
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 2: Well, this is why it is weird with the Jets.

2098
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:56,440
Speaker 2: I mean, one thing that Aaron Rodgers has to recognize

2099
01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 2: is that this is a lousy organization. There's a reason

2100
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 2: why the Jets have been so insignificant for so many years.

2101
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:07,719
Speaker 2: It's the same thing we talk about with the Chargers

2102
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 2: all the time. Why do certain teams, no matter how

2103
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:15,560
Speaker 2: many good hands their dealt always seem to fail. And

2104
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 2: it starts at the top. And if I'm Aaron Rodgers

2105
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:25,680
Speaker 2: seriously and I want to extend my career, it's not

2106
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:29,799
Speaker 2: going to be in a Jets uniform. If I'm Aaron Rodgers,

2107
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 2: whenever this season ends, I want out out. I'm not.

2108
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 2: This is not going to be the end of my

2109
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 2: career in a Jets uniform. I mean, the football gods

2110
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 2: maybe gave him a reminder with that blown achilles on

2111
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 2: the fourth play of the year. Don't do this. This

2112
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 2: is not going to end well for you. This is

2113
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 2: not going to be a harken back to Joe Namath.

2114
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 2: You know that whole hard Knocks self made promotion for

2115
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. This is not happening. This is the Jets.

2116
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 2: They're a bad organization and you're not gonna make them better.

2117
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 2: I just I mean, if I were Rogers, I would say, guys,

2118
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 2: thanks for the time. I want out.

2119
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2120
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 2: Here's the here's the thing. He's not gonna say this franchise,

2121
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not. The Jets.

2122
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 3: As bad as their offense has looked this season, I

2123
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 3: think they would have looked vastly different with Aaron Rodgers. Now,

2124
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 3: can he save a season like this? Well no, not necessarily,

2125
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 3: But I mean, would the team have made more of

2126
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 3: an investment at the trade deadline up front on the

2127
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 3: offensive line potentially, or maybe even sign some players free agent,

2128
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 3: take a I don't know, take a look and see

2129
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:51,679
Speaker 3: what's available out there on the on the waiver wire

2130
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 3: or off of other teams practice squads to try to

2131
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 3: make a difference.

2132
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 2: I mean, yep, probably.

2133
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 3: I just think the Jets are in a holding pattern

2134
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 3: this season there, and I think Aaron Rodgers understands public

2135
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 3: relations probably better than most quarterbacks.

2136
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 2: There would be there would be a lot of.

2137
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 3: Ruffled feathers if he all of a sudden abandoned his

2138
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 3: second team in as many years. So I think he's stuck.

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Speaker 3: I frankly think he's stuck. He can retire that, I mean,

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01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 3: that's always on the table, and he's flirted with that

2141
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 3: thought process before, but I don't think he can walk

2142
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 3: away from the Jets. I think it would destroy his

2143
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 3: legacy if he walked away from the Jets after asking

2144
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,560
Speaker 3: them to bend over backwards to feather his bet for

2145
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 3: him before he got there.

2146
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 2: So what would be worse for him? Retire, force a

2147
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 2: trade or have a five to twelve season next year

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01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 2: with the Jets. I mean, look, I doubt they would

2149
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 2: be five and twelve. I mean, again, there is a

2150
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 2: reason why this franchise has been such a loser for

2151
01:51:58,760 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 2: so long.

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01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, to answer your question head on, obviously, five

2153
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,719
Speaker 3: and twelve five to twelve season would be a disaster.

2154
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,560
Speaker 3: But outside of that, I mean, even if it's a

2155
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 3: middling record, it's.

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01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 2: Not it's it's fine. Let's go seven and ten. Okay,

2157
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 2: seven and ten wraps up his career boom seven and ten.

2158
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 3: But that's still that's a bad record.

2159
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 2: That is a bad record. If you are a guy

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01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 2: that you know thinks of yourself, there's I mean, there's

2161
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 2: no lack of self promotion in Aaron Rodgers. I mean,

2162
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 2: he constantly cites his four MVP awards. He talks about

2163
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 2: these things all the time. I would love to hear

2164
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 2: his spin on that. All Right, we have a game

2165
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 2: that's actually tied right now. The Texans and the Titans

2166
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 2: are tied at sixteen. Hey, let's give it to Damiic

2167
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 2: o'ryans and this Texans team without c J. Stra Today,

2168
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 2: they got off to rough start. They were down thirteen

2169
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 2: to three at the half, but now they have outs

2170
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 2: scored the Titans thirteen three in the second half and

2171
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 2: after Shaky's star case Keenum it's got to be one

2172
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 2: hundred years old. It's sort of even things out twenty

2173
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 2: at twenty nine hundred and seventy six yards and he

2174
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 2: has that touchdown pass to Noel Brown. So look out,

2175
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 2: this was a game that you thought. Man, the Texans

2176
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 2: have got to win this game to stay in the

2177
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 2: playoff chase, and right now they are even with three

2178
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 2: minutes to go in the fourth quarter of this game.

2179
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Speaker 2: Let's see if Will Levis can lead the Titans to

2180
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:31,560
Speaker 2: a victory. All right, much more coming up. Keep it

2181
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 2: right here. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Deana

2182
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 2: to throw Tenum Scramley to the right, throws to the

2183
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 2: end zone.

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01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 7: Touchdown Houston, Noah Brown three yard TV pass.

2185
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 2: Case Keenum, welcome back, touchdown pass. That's Texans Radio Network.

2186
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:55,480
Speaker 2: Texans and Titans are tied at sixteen and the Titans

2187
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 2: just had to punt. So Case Keenum and the Texans

2188
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 2: had the ball high game one forty five to go

2189
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. They will start at their own

2190
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 2: twenty one yard line. This is Fox Sports Red Zone

2191
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Speaker 2: Radio Steve Harbin. Rich Ornberger will live from the tyrach

2192
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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. All right, so we have a game here, Rich,

2193
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 2: We got a game now, Case Keenum, Case Keenum. He

2194
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 2: was at the University of Houston for six years. I

2195
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 2: love six year guys. It's one thing. Go five like

2196
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 2: you were a five year guy Penn State. Yeah, but

2197
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 2: when you get that sixth year, oh man, that's special man.

2198
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 2: And he was a six year guy at the University

2199
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 2: of Houston putting up some ungodly numbers. But right now,

2200
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 2: the Texans, I mean, how big would this be for

2201
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 2: the Texans without CJ. Stroud to pick up a road

2202
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 2: victory and keep their playoff hopes very much alive. I mean,

2203
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 2: this would be enormous.

2204
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 3: And frankly, in this year, it wouldn't shock me at

2205
01:54:57,200 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 3: all if the Houston Texans, where nobody had that square

2206
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 3: on their bingo board getting filled this year, find their

2207
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 3: way into a postseason, not only on the backs of CJ.

2208
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 3: Stroud having a sensational rookie season, but then also case

2209
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 3: Keenum coming in and saving the day. I mean, it's

2210
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 3: just the most twenty twenty three headline you could possibly write,

2211
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 3: and it makes perfect sense because that's all we've seen

2212
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 3: all year long is star quarterbacks getting injured from Game

2213
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 3: one all the way through until current day. I mean,

2214
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 3: just go through it's been a litany, right, Aaron Rodgers,

2215
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, he was injured early and then he's out

2216
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 3: for the season. Wats Justin Herbert of CJ Stroud. Derek

2217
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 3: Carr has been out for stints. I mean Desmond Ritter,

2218
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 3: who just drew the ugliest interception I think I've ever

2219
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 3: seen in NFL history. He's gotten banged up at different

2220
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 3: points during the season for the Falcons. It's just been

2221
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:01,919
Speaker 3: a disaster for the majority of teams at quarterback.

2222
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 2: They have not been able to stay healthy. All right,

2223
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't help, By the way, bo, can we get

2224
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 2: that game the we can take off this game? By

2225
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 2: the way, as a final, the Buccaneers have defeated the

2226
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 2: Packers thirty four to twenty. This was pretty much an

2227
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 2: elimination game. Packers fall to six and eight. If they

2228
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 2: went out, they might still have a shot. But as

2229
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 2: far as the Bucks are concerned, they are still tied

2230
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 2: for first place right now, guaranteed in that NFC South.

2231
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 2: All right, so we have a minute to go right now.

2232
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 2: Texans have the ball at their own thirty five yard line.

2233
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 2: They were not helped here by an illegal procedure call.

2234
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 2: Can you be when you're on a drive. All right,

2235
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 2: Keenum's going deep, he's got Oh he overthrew him. I

2236
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 2: don't know where that was. He's he's looking at the

2237
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 2: official like this guy. So now they have a fourth down,

2238
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 2: so it looks like the Texans are gonna have to

2239
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 2: punt the ball away and look at Mike Vrabel, you

2240
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 2: know he's I think about Vrabel, man, he's an incredibly

2241
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 2: That win they got against Miami was one for the ages.

2242
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 2: Oh that was. That was the most unbelievable game where

2243
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 2: they completely unravel the Titans like they were hanging top.

2244
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 2: They're playing Miami top in Miami, and then all of

2245
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 2: a sudden turnover, turnover, a couple of touchdowns like ah

2246
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 2: man got away from him, and then to come all

2247
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 2: the way back and win that game. That was unbelievable.

2248
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 2: Well that's the type.

2249
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 3: That's the type of coach, and that's an example of

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Speaker 3: a culture maker who the locker room adores. Yes, like

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01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 3: like Mike Vrabel is gonna go.

2252
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 2: Wait, the Texans just get called for a late hit.

2253
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 2: They didn't call it. Oh wow, did you see this

2254
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 2: on the punt return? He was clearly out of bounds

2255
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 2: and there's no call on this.

2256
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 3: Oh my God, yeah, is going to be speaking of

2257
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel.

2258
01:57:56,400 --> 01:58:00,080
Speaker 2: He's losing his mind. So Kinsey feels the punt and

2259
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 2: he was out of bounds and he gets rocked and

2260
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 2: no flag. Holy smile. And that could have been a

2261
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 2: game changer to get obviously the Titans much better position.

2262
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 2: But instead they will start at their own twenty nine

2263
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 2: yard line. Big difference starting their own twenty nine in

2264
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 2: your own forty four yard line. Yeah, I would say

2265
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 2: that is bad, man. I mean AGAINI here has been terrible.

2266
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I but you know what, we say that

2267
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 2: every single season we do. But I mean there's certain

2268
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 2: calls that are so obvious. All right, deep passed by

2269
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:39,040
Speaker 2: Will Levis and it's almost intercepted. Good defense there. This

2270
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 2: one looks like it's probably gonna go to overtime. One

2271
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:45,120
Speaker 2: other game that's actually still in play, the Bears and

2272
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 2: the Browns. The Bears are gonna have to punt right now.

2273
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 2: Back to the Browns. It's been a bad day for

2274
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. I mean, woof. If you look at if

2275
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 2: you look at their last let's let's take a look

2276
01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 2: here at their possessions. You're ready for this. This is

2277
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 2: the last six possessions for the Browns one play pick

2278
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 2: six uh, three plays seven yards punt, three plays negative

2279
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 2: ten yards punt, four plays thirteen yards punt, one play interception,

2280
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 2: then they got a field goal, and then their last

2281
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 2: possession three plays zero yards punt. Yeah. I mean, at

2282
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 2: some point, do you say maybe we should throw Drian

2283
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 2: Thompson Robinson in their dtr just for a little change

2284
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 2: of pace. I mean, it's a seven point game, It's

2285
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 2: a winnable game with seven and a half minutes to go.

2286
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Speaker 3: Look, Joe Flacco isn't the answer, because here's here's the

2287
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 3: because here's here's what the Bears are doing in Any

2288
01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 3: defense who can do this will stop the run, stop

2289
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 3: the run and put the game on Joe Flacco and

2290
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 3: he and he will not be able to bail out

2291
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 3: this Browns offense.

2292
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 2: All Right, The Chiefs are trying to add to their

2293
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 2: ten point laid two minute warnings second a goal at

2294
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 2: the New England four yard line. The Pats are falling

2295
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 2: to three eleven on the season. Is that enough to

2296
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 2: save the job of Bill Belichick. We're gonna find out

2297
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 2: in about three weeks whether or not that is the case.

2298
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 2: All Right, what kind of finishes are we gonna have

2299
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Speaker 2: You'll find out. Keep it right here. This is Fox

2300
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Speaker 2: Sports Red Zone Radio. The ball is between the hashes.

2301
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,720
Speaker 3: It is a twenty three yard a chip shot for

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02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 3: the wind.

2303
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:22,840
Speaker 2: Chancey to snap. Hecker puts it down. Eddie swings the leg.

2304
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:26,400
Speaker 2: The kick is up. It's good. Chew up, Neil Diamond.

2305
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Speaker 2: That's ninety nine seven of the Fox Panthers radio network.

2306
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:35,040
Speaker 2: Who believes it. The Panthers have doubled their win total

2307
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,400
Speaker 2: on the season. They go to two and twelve, a

2308
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 2: brutal loss for the Atlanta Falcons as they now dropped

2309
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 2: a third place in the NFC South. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: get their second win of the season, and with the

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02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 2: Patriots losing to the Chiefs, Patriots are narrowing the gap

2317
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,160
Speaker 2: to get that number one overall pick. They're sitting at

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02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 2: three and ten and the Panthers are now two and eleven,

2319
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:19,840
Speaker 2: can I two and twelve? Can I tell us three

2320
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Speaker 2: and eleven and two and twelve. So there you go,

2321
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:22,320
Speaker 2: they're getting close.

2322
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 3: If there's one thing this early slate of games has

2323
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 3: made abundantly clear, and this is actually something that Tom

2324
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 3: Ronaldi brought up earlier in the show when we were

2325
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Speaker 3: breaking down this Dallas Buffalo game that's about to kick off,

2326
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 3: it's how few and far between good quarterback matchups are

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Speaker 3: in this league.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if we just look at the early

2330
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Speaker 3: slate alone, we saw Zach Wilson Tua. We saw case

2331
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 3: Keenan will Levis. We saw Tommy DeVito and then Tarad

2332
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 3: Taylor take on Derek Carr. We saw Justin Field's Joe

2333
02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 3: Flacco and then Bailly Zappi.

2334
02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 2: Take on Patrick Mahomes. Like this is this is what

2335
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 2: it is this year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, on Saturday, that slate of games that we

2337
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 3: watch Saturday, the only game that had two starting quarterbacks

2338
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:18,720
Speaker 3: from the beginning of the season was the Detroit Denver

2339
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 3: game with Russell Wilson and Jared Goff.

2340
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Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't prevent us from having close games. Now,

2341
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 2: this Texans Titans game, which has been pretty forgettable, without CJ.

2342
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 2: Stroud is in overtime right now. So we got that game.

2343
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Speaker 2: And then this unbelievable pass I mean were talking about

2344
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. He throws a perfect pass, hitting Amari Cooper

2345
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 2: on the run. He does the rest. So the Bears

2346
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 2: and Browns are tied at seventeen. The Bears have the

2347
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 2: ball right now, a little over two minutes to go

2348
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:50,520
Speaker 2: deep in their own territory, and on third and fifteen

2349
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:53,840
Speaker 2: the Browns have stopped them. So now the Bears are

2350
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:57,240
Speaker 2: gonna have to punt, and there's gonna be two minutes

2351
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 2: to go. Yeah on this punt because running down to

2352
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 2: the two minute warning, let's see if Joe Flacco could

2353
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:06,840
Speaker 2: pull this game out for the Browns. So anyway, we're

2354
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 2: in the overtime right now. As far as the Titans

2355
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 2: and the Texans are concerned, Titans will get the ball first,

2356
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 2: and unfortunately Will Lews just got sacked. So there you go.

2357
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 2: That's not a good way to start this series. But

2358
02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:21,800
Speaker 2: you're right, rich And and this is something again where

2359
02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 2: I talked about, you know, all these rules that they

2360
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 2: keep putting in to protect the quarterback. You know, we've

2361
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:31,400
Speaker 2: been sort of kidding over the last few years, why

2362
02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 2: if you even breathed on a quarterback. But you've had

2363
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks blow out their achilles, Aaron Rodgers and Kirk

2364
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 2: Cousins some of the I mean, Deshaun Watson in his

2365
02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:46,480
Speaker 2: last half never played better. Remember he had a perfect habit.

2366
02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 2: He didn't have a single incomplete pass in that one.

2367
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:52,879
Speaker 2: It was against the Ravens, right and he looked unreal.

2368
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 2: And after the game they announced he's out for the year.

2369
02:03:56,720 --> 02:04:01,000
Speaker 2: It's like, what what just happened there? The year? We

2370
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:03,960
Speaker 2: were just finally seeing Deshaun Watson for what he was.

2371
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with quarterbacks around the

2372
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 2: National Football League this year, but you're right, it becomes

2373
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 2: a survival game to do whatever you can with these quarterbacks.

2374
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:17,720
Speaker 2: What a catch, What a catch in this Texans game

2375
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:21,840
Speaker 2: right now, Will Levis was lucky that pass was not intercepted.

2376
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:25,280
Speaker 2: It went right through the defender's hands. And look at

2377
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 2: this catch, yeah, right through the Oh wow, what a play. Unreal?

2378
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 2: That was more with the catch right there, went right

2379
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 2: through the defender's hands into the Texans hands. So first

2380
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:41,360
Speaker 2: down for the Titans right now. They have a first

2381
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 2: down at their own forty eight yard line, trying to

2382
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 2: get in an at least field goal position to take

2383
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 2: the lead in this game. So the Bears punting right now,

2384
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 2: fourth down from their own twenty three yard line. We've

2385
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:55,680
Speaker 2: mentioned this many times. The Browns can't lose this game.

2386
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 3: No, No, this is a game they absolutely cannot lose.

2387
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:06,200
Speaker 3: Is there any wiggle room because let's look at their schedule.

2388
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 3: I keep saying that, but you know, after all, it

2389
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 3: is an NFC opponent. They've struggled with all of the

2390
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 3: NFC opponents they face so far this season. They wrap

2391
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 3: up the season with the Texans on the road, then

2392
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:21,600
Speaker 3: the Jets come to Cleveland to face them, and then

2393
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:26,040
Speaker 3: they go to Cincinnati against Jake Browning, who's red hot

2394
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:28,160
Speaker 3: right now with the Cincinnati Bengals.

2395
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 2: That that.

2396
02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 3: That is going to be how they finish up the season.

2397
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:36,920
Speaker 3: So conceivably, you know.

2398
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 2: If CJ.

2399
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:40,280
Speaker 3: Stroud is back next week, you know, maybe there's a

2400
02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 3: little rust he's knocking off.

2401
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 2: The Jets are a mess.

2402
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 3: I mean, this still could this still could end up

2403
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 3: a ten win season for them if they pick up

2404
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:49,240
Speaker 3: two of.

2405
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:52,000
Speaker 2: The next three and loose to the Bears today. All right,

2406
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 2: if you look at the AFC playoff picture right now,

2407
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 2: I think we would both agree that the Raiders, despite

2408
02:05:57,560 --> 02:06:01,400
Speaker 2: their smashing victory over the Chargers at Sick, not gonna

2409
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 2: make it. New Titans not gonna make it even if

2410
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:07,840
Speaker 2: they pull this game out. Both the Broncos and Steelers

2411
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 2: had bad losses to fall to seven and seven. You

2412
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 2: got the Bills playing tonight at home against the Cowboys.

2413
02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 2: A win does them a lot. The Texans again, if

2414
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:21,160
Speaker 2: they can pull this game out, would do them a lot.

2415
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 2: Both those teams trying to get to eight and six.

2416
02:06:23,240 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 2: The Colts are already at eight and six, The Bengals

2417
02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 2: are at eight and six. If the Browns lose, they

2418
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 2: fall to eight and six. Right the Jags are at

2419
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 2: home today but dogs against the Ravens. They could lose,

2420
02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:38,200
Speaker 2: They could fall to eightons. I mean, this is just

2421
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 2: you know, now, if the Chiefs big win today to

2422
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:44,640
Speaker 2: nine and five, they are securely in that three slot

2423
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 2: right now, behind the Ravens and the Dolphins. So that's

2424
02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:51,040
Speaker 2: that's where they stand right now, all right. So the

2425
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 2: Titans could not get it done in overtime. They are

2426
02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:57,800
Speaker 2: gonna have to punt the ball back to the Texans

2427
02:06:57,880 --> 02:07:01,080
Speaker 2: and again for the Texans. Let's see if you can

2428
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 2: get a little magic right now out of Case Keenum

2429
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:05,520
Speaker 2: and win this game. All they need is a field

2430
02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 2: goal because they get the ball second six and a

2431
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:09,680
Speaker 2: half minutes to go in the overtime, So a field

2432
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 2: goal will win it for the Texans.

2433
02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 3: Well, what's crazy, and it is crazy saying this out

2434
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 3: loud this season, but what a veteran backup can do

2435
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:22,800
Speaker 3: for you in situations like this.

2436
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 2: This moment isn't too big for Case Keenum. He's been

2437
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:26,040
Speaker 2: here before.

2438
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:29,040
Speaker 3: He's been a starter several times throughout his career in

2439
02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:32,000
Speaker 3: the NFL, and he's been a backup in situations just

2440
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 3: like this one with the Houston Texans with a lot

2441
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,280
Speaker 3: riding on this game in division.

2442
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 2: One of the biggest plays in Viking's history.

2443
02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:43,400
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, I mean the the Minnesota Miracle, Minneapolis Miracle.

2444
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 3: For crying out loud, that was him that he was

2445
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:48,320
Speaker 3: on the throwing end of that stuff on Dig's pass.

2446
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:54,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is this is exhaust He just got sacked.

2447
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 2: Jesus is. So both of these.

2448
02:07:56,360 --> 02:07:59,520
Speaker 3: Series open up with sacks against these quarterbacks.

2449
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:02,560
Speaker 2: Will Levin Swiss sacked and now Case Keenum. By the way,

2450
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 2: if this game were to end in a tie, Oh God,

2451
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:07,960
Speaker 2: think about where that puts the Texans. I mean, that

2452
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 2: could really throw a few things off. But it didn't

2453
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 2: get off to a good start. Meanwhile, the Browns are

2454
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:17,680
Speaker 2: in Bears territory. They have a first and fifteen at

2455
02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 2: the forty seven yard line of the Browns. Clock is ticking.

2456
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:24,200
Speaker 2: We are inside two minutes to go in this one.

2457
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:28,839
Speaker 2: Brown's trailed throughout. They were down seventeen to seven. Flacco

2458
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:32,240
Speaker 2: has thrown three interceptions this game, but tie the game

2459
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:35,120
Speaker 2: up with a fifty two yard touchdown passer Marii Cooper

2460
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 2: and now at their own forty seven yard line and

2461
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 2: he throws a pass it is almost intercepted. Oh man

2462
02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 2: behind the receiver right there. This game could end up

2463
02:08:45,960 --> 02:08:47,280
Speaker 2: in overtime as well.

2464
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no question about it. You know the thing

2465
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:54,080
Speaker 3: about the Texans without CJ. Stroud starting, if they tie

2466
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 3: this game, if they tie this game, how.

2467
02:08:59,640 --> 02:09:02,240
Speaker 2: Do I about this? I think it's still a win.

2468
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:03,400
Speaker 2: I really do.

2469
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 3: I mean, if you think about it, they get to

2470
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:09,840
Speaker 3: face the Titans again, except they host them in two games.

2471
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:13,640
Speaker 2: They go we just talked about this, So another break

2472
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:16,320
Speaker 2: sack of Keenum. I'll tell you one thing. Right now,

2473
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 2: they got fourth on a mile and they're gonna have

2474
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:21,520
Speaker 2: to punt. They're at their own four yard line, so

2475
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:23,760
Speaker 2: they're going to be punting out of their end zone

2476
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 2: with four and a half minutes to go, which means

2477
02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 2: that Tennessee and Will Levi is gonna have some pretty

2478
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:32,680
Speaker 2: good field position to just get a field goal. Yeah,

2479
02:09:32,720 --> 02:09:34,520
Speaker 2: you got to try to flip this field if it's

2480
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:37,720
Speaker 2: even possible at this point, fourth and thirty one, two

2481
02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:39,960
Speaker 2: sacks for Keenum. I mean, you can't do that.

2482
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 3: Now, you got to throw the ball away, make better

2483
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,840
Speaker 3: decisions there, and Keenum really really failed them in that spot.

2484
02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2485
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:51,320
Speaker 3: Like I said, a loss obviously is the expected outcome,

2486
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 3: but when you get them all the way to overtime

2487
02:09:54,200 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 3: tie is a win in this case, especially being able

2488
02:09:56,760 --> 02:09:59,839
Speaker 3: to host the Titans in two games.

2489
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 2: Hmm, Well, the Titans have just returned the ball to

2490
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:06,760
Speaker 2: the forty six yard line. However, there's a flag on

2491
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 2: the play man if this is against the Titans, and

2492
02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm Mike vrabel I am losing my mind. I mean,

2493
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:17,160
Speaker 2: basically you could have fair caught the ball at midfield.

2494
02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:20,720
Speaker 2: Instead they get called for holding. Oh my god, the return,

2495
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:24,520
Speaker 2: and rabel is just beside himself. You have got to

2496
02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:27,640
Speaker 2: be kidding me. We have the ball, just fielding the

2497
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:32,160
Speaker 2: punt at midfield and all they need is a field goal.

2498
02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Holy smoke? Geez, I mean sometimes

2499
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:42,840
Speaker 2: being a coach. All right, the Browns are now in

2500
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 2: business a big play. They've gotten down to the nineteen

2501
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:49,560
Speaker 2: yard line of the Bears, and we've got forty six

2502
02:10:49,640 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 2: seconds to go, So at the very least, now the

2503
02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 2: Browns are in position for a game winning field goal.

2504
02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 3: And how about that throw from Joe Flacco off the

2505
02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:04,000
Speaker 3: back leg and Djoku wasn't he wasn't quite open at first,

2506
02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:06,040
Speaker 3: or he wasn't sure if you love the matchup, and

2507
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:08,920
Speaker 3: then he realized, oh shoot, and Joku is covered by

2508
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,200
Speaker 3: a defensive lineman. Let me pop this over his head

2509
02:11:12,240 --> 02:11:15,320
Speaker 3: real quick. So they have a first intent opportunity well

2510
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:17,880
Speaker 3: inside of Bears territory nineteen yard line going in.

2511
02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:20,520
Speaker 2: All right, will levi us on the first place scrambles

2512
02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:23,240
Speaker 2: to get nine yards so that they are Titans are

2513
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 2: at their own forty six yard line a second to one.

2514
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 2: We got four minutes to go in overtime in that game,

2515
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 2: By the way, Joe Flacco's last game winning drive was

2516
02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:36,240
Speaker 2: last year fourth quarter game winning drive when he was

2517
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:39,400
Speaker 2: with the Jets. All right, so the ball now is

2518
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:43,960
Speaker 2: at the where are we at the nineteen yard line line?

2519
02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:47,040
Speaker 2: We got forty six seconds to go at this point.

2520
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:50,400
Speaker 2: You just don't want to do anything stupid, Yeah, right,

2521
02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:53,520
Speaker 2: just you know, just hand the ball off, which is

2522
02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:57,040
Speaker 2: something they did right there. I'm looking. The Bears have

2523
02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:01,000
Speaker 2: all three of their timeouts. Yeah, they only get to

2524
02:12:01,160 --> 02:12:04,480
Speaker 2: use one if so they use one right there, So

2525
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:08,240
Speaker 2: two timeouts are remaining forty two seconds. So even if

2526
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:12,560
Speaker 2: the Bears get a or the Browns get a field

2527
02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:15,560
Speaker 2: goal here, the Bears can stop the clock and get

2528
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:17,560
Speaker 2: the ball back. Not with a lot of time left,

2529
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:20,680
Speaker 2: but they could get the ball back. Meanwhile, Nick Folk,

2530
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:23,240
Speaker 2: who's already missed an extra point in this game, which

2531
02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 2: is the difference, by the way, he missed an extra

2532
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:28,440
Speaker 2: point on the Titans first score of the game. Otherwise

2533
02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 2: the Titans be up a point instead of tied in

2534
02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 2: this game. And overtime, Will Levis throws the ball away,

2535
02:12:34,920 --> 02:12:38,760
Speaker 2: So two forty two to go in overtime, and they

2536
02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 2: need they need yards here. They're not even near field

2537
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:45,960
Speaker 2: goal territory. Let's keep it here though. We got the

2538
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 2: Browns at the seventeen yard line. Second and eight, they

2539
02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:52,760
Speaker 2: hand the ball off again and get a couple of

2540
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:55,640
Speaker 2: yards of the fifteen. I don't take any chances of that. No, no, no, no.

2541
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:57,800
Speaker 3: They should hand it off to Hunt three times and

2542
02:12:57,880 --> 02:12:58,880
Speaker 3: then kick the seal goal.

2543
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:01,200
Speaker 2: And well, you want to burn the Bear time out? Yeah, exactly,

2544
02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 2: so the burn the Bears just use their second time

2545
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 2: out there, they still have one remaining. Meanwhile, the Titans

2546
02:13:07,240 --> 02:13:09,360
Speaker 2: have a second and ten, they're at their own forty

2547
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:12,200
Speaker 2: seven yard line, and they hand the ball off for

2548
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:15,280
Speaker 2: very little game there. They're gonna have a third and

2549
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:18,560
Speaker 2: eight at their own forty nine yard line, and the

2550
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:21,640
Speaker 2: clock is running two and a half minutes ago in overtime.

2551
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:25,040
Speaker 2: If they don't score here, we could easily be looking

2552
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:25,800
Speaker 2: at a tie.

2553
02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:28,080
Speaker 3: Which again is a win for the Texans. And then,

2554
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:31,920
Speaker 3: you know, let's face it, if something crazy happens by.

2555
02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:33,960
Speaker 2: The we haven't had a tie in the NFL this season.

2556
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:35,280
Speaker 2: Oh that's correct. Yeah.

2557
02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:39,600
Speaker 3: If if the Browns find a way which is highly

2558
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:42,680
Speaker 3: unlikely to lose this football game, the Texans and the

2559
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:46,640
Speaker 3: Browns facing each other is hugely important coming up next week,

2560
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:49,560
Speaker 3: because all of a sudden you have a battle for

2561
02:13:49,720 --> 02:13:52,040
Speaker 3: one of these wild card spots, and a heads up

2562
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 3: win obviously gives you a distinct advantage.

2563
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:56,760
Speaker 2: So even walking away with a tie for.

2564
02:13:56,800 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 3: The Texans, it it's it's it's not the best thing

2565
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:02,600
Speaker 3: in the world, especially when you get yourself into this

2566
02:14:02,720 --> 02:14:04,000
Speaker 3: position where you can win.

2567
02:14:04,600 --> 02:14:05,080
Speaker 2: But it's not.

2568
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:09,160
Speaker 3: It won't doom your season in terms of playoff hopes.

2569
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:12,560
Speaker 2: All right, So the Browns Flacco just kept the ball

2570
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:15,000
Speaker 2: for a one yard loss, so they're going to have

2571
02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:18,720
Speaker 2: a field goal attempt right now, about thirty three yard

2572
02:14:18,760 --> 02:14:21,880
Speaker 2: field goal attempt thirty seven seconds left. The Bears did

2573
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:24,640
Speaker 2: use their last time out to stop the clock, so

2574
02:14:25,280 --> 02:14:28,720
Speaker 2: even with a successful field goal attempt, they will get

2575
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:32,080
Speaker 2: the ball back. Actually, it'll be a thirty four yard

2576
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:36,280
Speaker 2: field goal attempt for the Browns who were down seventeen

2577
02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:39,320
Speaker 2: to seven in this game and now have a chance

2578
02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:43,200
Speaker 2: to take a lead. And here we go for a

2579
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:49,120
Speaker 2: field goal attempt, and the field goal is perfect right

2580
02:14:49,640 --> 02:14:52,280
Speaker 2: down the middle. So that's it. The Browns have now

2581
02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:55,680
Speaker 2: taken the lead thirty five seconds ago. The Bears will

2582
02:14:55,880 --> 02:14:59,160
Speaker 2: get the ball back, all right, We continue on Don't

2583
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:04,200
Speaker 2: Go Anywhere, Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Steve Harvey, Rich Harberger,

2584
02:15:04,440 --> 02:15:08,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Live from the Tirak dot

2585
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:10,880
Speaker 2: Com studios. All right, the Bears are down to their

2586
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:15,880
Speaker 2: last breath right now, trailing twenty to seventeen. They have

2587
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:19,680
Speaker 2: a third and ten at the Cleveland forty five yard line.

2588
02:15:19,840 --> 02:15:21,560
Speaker 2: Justin Fields throws one into the end.

2589
02:15:21,560 --> 02:15:25,120
Speaker 10: Zone at is how almost by the bars.

2590
02:15:25,840 --> 02:15:29,000
Speaker 2: It was in his hands and as he went to

2591
02:15:29,080 --> 02:15:32,320
Speaker 2: the ground he kicked the ball up into the Novendors heads.

2592
02:15:32,800 --> 02:15:38,280
Speaker 2: That was unbelievable. He had it it and as he

2593
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:41,520
Speaker 2: went down his ball, he just kicked it out of

2594
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:45,400
Speaker 2: his own hands. So the Browns survived. Look at the replay,

2595
02:15:45,440 --> 02:15:48,640
Speaker 2: there's a rebound. He's got the ball and it goes

2596
02:15:48,760 --> 02:15:52,680
Speaker 2: home much and it kicks it away. So the Browns survived.

2597
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:55,600
Speaker 2: Now here's what's happening in the other game. Over time,

2598
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:58,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a fifty four yard field goal attempt

2599
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:01,920
Speaker 2: by the Texans. Actually scored a touchdown, but it got

2600
02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:05,600
Speaker 2: called back for a holding call. So this is it.

2601
02:16:05,800 --> 02:16:10,800
Speaker 2: Two seconds to go in overtime. The Texans and the

2602
02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:13,520
Speaker 2: Titans are tied at sixteen, and it's gonna come down

2603
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:16,720
Speaker 2: to Fairbarn and a fifty four yard field goal attempt

2604
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:20,320
Speaker 2: to pull this game out for the Texans. Otherwise we're

2605
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:23,880
Speaker 2: gonna have our first tie game of this NFL season. Wow,

2606
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:26,520
Speaker 2: what a finish there, But a huge win for the Browns.

2607
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:29,440
Speaker 2: They almost blew one at home, but they survive against

2608
02:16:29,480 --> 02:16:34,040
Speaker 2: the Bears to get to nine and five on the season.

2609
02:16:34,720 --> 02:16:38,000
Speaker 2: Very much in the playoff picture and the AFC. So

2610
02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:41,680
Speaker 2: let's see what happens here with the Texans. There's a

2611
02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:44,400
Speaker 2: big difference. So between a tie and a win. Oh yeah,

2612
02:16:44,480 --> 02:16:47,000
Speaker 2: I mean the Texans trying to get to eight and

2613
02:16:47,240 --> 02:16:50,800
Speaker 2: six keep their playoff hopes alive. Seven to six and one,

2614
02:16:50,840 --> 02:16:53,680
Speaker 2: they'll be on the fringe. But here we go. Fifty

2615
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:58,480
Speaker 2: four yard field goal attempt for the former Bruin Kamey Fiairborne.

2616
02:16:58,879 --> 02:17:01,039
Speaker 2: Let's see what we do. Here's the kick is up

2617
02:17:01,959 --> 02:17:10,280
Speaker 2: and the kick is gone. The Houston Texans have coupaways

2618
02:17:10,320 --> 02:17:13,880
Speaker 2: see that UCLA guy house did Texans have won this

2619
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:18,680
Speaker 2: game on the road against the Titans without CJ. Stroud.

2620
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:24,320
Speaker 2: That's a huge kick, man, Holy smoke, Fairburn delivers from

2621
02:17:24,600 --> 02:17:27,800
Speaker 2: fifty four yards out. That was a bomb.

2622
02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 3: That's unreal. That is unreal. So case Keenum and the

2623
02:17:34,600 --> 02:17:38,640
Speaker 3: Texans find a way on the road. And again, so

2624
02:17:38,879 --> 02:17:43,520
Speaker 3: now with the Browns winning and the Texans winning, you've

2625
02:17:43,560 --> 02:17:46,440
Speaker 3: got what is it an eight win Browns taken on

2626
02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:51,199
Speaker 3: an eight win Texans team? Next week yep, hugely important

2627
02:17:51,240 --> 02:17:53,840
Speaker 3: games in terms of the AFC Wildcard matchup. And then

2628
02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:59,039
Speaker 3: the Texans face the Titans in Houston, most likely with CJ.

2629
02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:00,520
Speaker 3: Stroud back in two weeks.

2630
02:18:01,800 --> 02:18:06,160
Speaker 2: Win for the Browns, huge win for the Texans. And again,

2631
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:08,840
Speaker 2: if you look at the AFC playoff picture right now,

2632
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:13,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to have ten wins. You're gonna have

2633
02:18:13,160 --> 02:18:15,800
Speaker 2: to win ten games to check in. So right now

2634
02:18:15,840 --> 02:18:19,360
Speaker 2: in the wildcard Cleveland at nine and five, Cincinnati at

2635
02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:23,119
Speaker 2: eight and six, Indian eight and six, Houston is eight

2636
02:18:23,160 --> 02:18:25,560
Speaker 2: and six, where the they're the odd team out right now,

2637
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:27,640
Speaker 2: at least in the moment they lose the tie break

2638
02:18:28,120 --> 02:18:32,040
Speaker 2: to the Bengals and the Colts that obviously still tied

2639
02:18:32,080 --> 02:18:34,000
Speaker 2: at eight and six. Wow, this makes for a very

2640
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:38,080
Speaker 2: exciting finish. There we mentioned on the NFC side today

2641
02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:43,640
Speaker 2: with the Falcons losing to the lowly Panthers, that takes

2642
02:18:43,680 --> 02:18:45,680
Speaker 2: them out of a tie for first place in that

2643
02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:49,400
Speaker 2: NFC South. The Saints took care of business and the

2644
02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:53,680
Speaker 2: Buccaneers huge win on the road today against Green Bay

2645
02:18:53,879 --> 02:18:56,480
Speaker 2: with Baker Mayfield throwing for three hundred and eighty one

2646
02:18:56,560 --> 02:19:01,040
Speaker 2: yards and four touchdowns. So the Bucks and the Saints

2647
02:19:01,480 --> 02:19:05,760
Speaker 2: at seven and seven share that lead in the NFC South.

2648
02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:10,400
Speaker 3: Just a division that continues to not want to be

2649
02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:13,360
Speaker 3: won by any of the teams playing in it. This

2650
02:19:13,440 --> 02:19:17,000
Speaker 3: stems back from last year. This is a tradition that

2651
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:20,640
Speaker 3: the NFC East has now shared with the NFC South.

2652
02:19:20,879 --> 02:19:23,320
Speaker 3: You remember that year. I think it was the pandemic

2653
02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:26,520
Speaker 3: year where the NFC East was just dread film. Yeah,

2654
02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:30,279
Speaker 3: nobody wanted to win that division, and finally I believe

2655
02:19:30,360 --> 02:19:34,279
Speaker 3: it was the Cowboys who emerged. That's exactly That's exactly

2656
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:36,680
Speaker 3: what's going on in the South this year. But it

2657
02:19:36,720 --> 02:19:39,800
Speaker 3: could be Tampa Baker and if it is, I mean,

2658
02:19:40,520 --> 02:19:43,680
Speaker 3: holy smokes, Tampa Bay may have found their starting quarterback

2659
02:19:43,760 --> 02:19:45,200
Speaker 3: for the next couple of years at least.

2660
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:47,600
Speaker 2: Wow, we just saw a weird play. So forty nine

2661
02:19:47,680 --> 02:19:51,240
Speaker 2: Ers and Cardinals are underway. It's actually tied at seven. Yeah,

2662
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:53,520
Speaker 2: six minutes in the first quarter. Brock pretty through a

2663
02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:57,840
Speaker 2: touchdown pass the Deebo Samuel James Connor rushing touchdown for Arizona,

2664
02:19:58,160 --> 02:20:00,920
Speaker 2: but there was a deflection play on what was a

2665
02:20:01,040 --> 02:20:06,920
Speaker 2: pass interference call to Arizona. The ball is deflected and

2666
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:10,359
Speaker 2: it's right to another Arizona player, so they declined the penalty.

2667
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:13,360
Speaker 2: So Arizona tied with the forty nine Ers at seven.

2668
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:18,039
Speaker 2: This game is in Arizona, and right now the Cardinals

2669
02:20:18,080 --> 02:20:21,080
Speaker 2: are looking pretty good. Rams early three to nothing lead

2670
02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:24,840
Speaker 2: over the Commanders. The Commanders right now have a fourth

2671
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:28,160
Speaker 2: and one at the Rams twelve yard line. By the way,

2672
02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:32,760
Speaker 2: Rams win today gets them to seven and seven. Sean

2673
02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:34,600
Speaker 2: McVay has done a pretty good job this year.

2674
02:20:34,640 --> 02:20:37,240
Speaker 3: Well and again this goes back to what we were

2675
02:20:37,320 --> 02:20:42,680
Speaker 3: talking about with Trevor Lawrence and Doug Peterson, with Russell

2676
02:20:42,720 --> 02:20:45,040
Speaker 3: Wilson and Sean Payton this season, although they just got

2677
02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:51,280
Speaker 3: their breaks beat off yesterday, and frankly, in the case

2678
02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:54,280
Speaker 3: of this game, you know you got Matthew Stafford out there,

2679
02:20:54,320 --> 02:20:58,520
Speaker 3: Sean McVay, great head coaches and great quarterbacks. You can

2680
02:20:58,600 --> 02:21:01,280
Speaker 3: never count out teams like that. You know they're gonna

2681
02:21:01,280 --> 02:21:03,480
Speaker 3: find a way to get some wins. Now, it took

2682
02:21:03,520 --> 02:21:05,640
Speaker 3: a little while for Peyton and Wilson to get on

2683
02:21:05,720 --> 02:21:07,640
Speaker 3: the same page together. I mean, it's their first year

2684
02:21:07,720 --> 02:21:11,160
Speaker 3: working together, and it was a mess in Denver, especially

2685
02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:14,440
Speaker 3: on defense against the Miami Dolphins. But they've recovered well

2686
02:21:14,480 --> 02:21:18,600
Speaker 3: this season. Jacksonville Jaguars underwhelming season for I think where

2687
02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:21,840
Speaker 3: the expectations were placed last year after a getting to

2688
02:21:21,959 --> 02:21:25,480
Speaker 3: win in the postseason and then in terms of the Rams,

2689
02:21:25,879 --> 02:21:29,199
Speaker 3: this was supposed to be a down year, low expectations,

2690
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:34,000
Speaker 3: but they've cobbled together a passable season that manned up

2691
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:35,320
Speaker 3: become a playoff Berth.

2692
02:21:35,560 --> 02:21:38,960
Speaker 2: All right, the Bills and the Cowboys. Game of the week,

2693
02:21:39,280 --> 02:21:43,760
Speaker 2: and Bills get the ball first, and they're already into

2694
02:21:44,480 --> 02:21:47,520
Speaker 2: Dallas territory. Well, no, they're close. They're almost at midfield

2695
02:21:47,640 --> 02:21:51,200
Speaker 2: right now. So Bills and Cowboys underway. All right, let's

2696
02:21:51,240 --> 02:21:53,840
Speaker 2: find out what is trending right now. She's been following

2697
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:57,360
Speaker 2: the action, and I'll tell you what. Monsuite. Again, not

2698
02:21:57,560 --> 02:21:59,800
Speaker 2: great games early, but we end up with too exciting.

2699
02:22:00,200 --> 02:22:03,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, no, no, I it was a fun day.

2700
02:22:03,640 --> 02:22:05,680
Speaker 8: It wasn't too stressful, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes

2701
02:22:05,720 --> 02:22:06,280
Speaker 8: it's stressful.

2702
02:22:06,280 --> 02:22:08,320
Speaker 5: It's hard to keep up it was easy to keep

2703
02:22:08,440 --> 02:22:11,560
Speaker 5: up and some fun exciting endings. Like you just mentioned

2704
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:13,960
Speaker 5: three games currently going on, and you did just mention

2705
02:22:14,040 --> 02:22:16,120
Speaker 5: the Rams up on the Commanders three zero late in

2706
02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:19,240
Speaker 5: the first quarter. The Cardinals actually scored first against the

2707
02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:21,880
Speaker 5: forty nine Ers, James Connor with a rushing touchdown, but

2708
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:25,600
Speaker 5: rock Perty has responded with Deebo Samuel connecting for a touchdown.

2709
02:22:25,640 --> 02:22:27,959
Speaker 5: So it's seven to seven in Arizona. With less than

2710
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:30,200
Speaker 5: five minutes to go in the first Cowboys and Bills

2711
02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:33,360
Speaker 5: just got going, So this one is scoreless.

2712
02:22:32,879 --> 02:22:33,480
Speaker 8: At the moment.

2713
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:36,080
Speaker 5: But let's recap the seven games that we started the

2714
02:22:36,200 --> 02:22:39,320
Speaker 5: day with. The Dolphins dominated the Jets thirty to zero.

2715
02:22:39,440 --> 02:22:43,080
Speaker 5: Rahu Moster with two rushing touchdowns. That's nineteen and twenty

2716
02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:45,160
Speaker 5: four the season, a franchise record.

2717
02:22:45,320 --> 02:22:48,520
Speaker 8: He had nineteen in his first eight seasons combined.

2718
02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:51,720
Speaker 5: So it's crazy eighteen and nineteen today with this and

2719
02:22:51,879 --> 02:22:55,480
Speaker 5: everything that's happened today, the Jets have officially been eliminated

2720
02:22:55,560 --> 02:22:58,520
Speaker 5: from the playoffs, so do what you want with that information.

2721
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:00,199
Speaker 8: When it comes to Aaron Rodgers.

2722
02:23:00,200 --> 02:23:03,600
Speaker 2: Actually were eliminated when Aaron Rodgers went down fourth play to.

2723
02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:06,080
Speaker 5: The game, but now online it'll say a little e

2724
02:23:06,600 --> 02:23:10,039
Speaker 5: next to nex to the Jets name. The Saints Day

2725
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:12,800
Speaker 5: Cruise passed the Giants twenty four to six. Derek Carr

2726
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:15,560
Speaker 5: through for two hundred and eighteen yards and three touchdowns.

2727
02:23:15,760 --> 02:23:18,920
Speaker 5: The Panthers as the Falcons nine to seven. Panthers won

2728
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:22,000
Speaker 5: that game with just three field goals. That is how

2729
02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:24,920
Speaker 5: they won that game. The Buccaneers outscored the Packers thirty

2730
02:23:24,959 --> 02:23:26,840
Speaker 5: four to twenty. The Bucks are now seven and seven.

2731
02:23:26,879 --> 02:23:29,879
Speaker 5: The Packers are now six and eight. Baker Mayfield ended

2732
02:23:29,920 --> 02:23:32,480
Speaker 5: with a perfect passer rating one fifty eight point three.

2733
02:23:32,720 --> 02:23:34,280
Speaker 5: He threw for three hundred and eighty one yards and

2734
02:23:34,400 --> 02:23:37,160
Speaker 5: four touchdowns. Chris Godwin had ten receptions for one hundred

2735
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:39,520
Speaker 5: and fifty five yards. So with the Falcons losing to

2736
02:23:39,560 --> 02:23:41,720
Speaker 5: the Panthers and the Packers losing to the Bucks, the

2737
02:23:41,879 --> 02:23:45,200
Speaker 5: Cowboys have clinched a playoff spot, so that is official.

2738
02:23:45,440 --> 02:23:48,240
Speaker 5: The Chiefs defeated the Patriots twenty seven to seventeen, so

2739
02:23:48,280 --> 02:23:50,000
Speaker 5: the Chiefs are now nine and five for the season.

2740
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:52,400
Speaker 5: The Texans, they walked it off with the field goal

2741
02:23:52,480 --> 02:23:56,560
Speaker 5: against the Titans in ot Kaimi Fairbairn, did I say

2742
02:23:56,560 --> 02:23:58,840
Speaker 5: that with the fifty four yard winning touchdown.

2743
02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:01,240
Speaker 8: That was nuts, but they held on Day one.

2744
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:04,439
Speaker 5: In overtime nineteen to sixteen, and the Browns they survived

2745
02:24:04,520 --> 02:24:09,000
Speaker 5: because that was a totally catchable hail Mary throw the

2746
02:24:09,080 --> 02:24:10,720
Speaker 5: Bears had, but they lost.

2747
02:24:10,840 --> 02:24:13,119
Speaker 8: Browns came out on top twenty to seventeen.

2748
02:24:13,520 --> 02:24:16,320
Speaker 5: Joe Flacco three hundred and seventy four yards, two touchdowns

2749
02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:19,560
Speaker 5: and three interceptions in the victory. And in case you

2750
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:22,360
Speaker 5: haven't heard, the Eagles have downgraded quarterback Jaalen Hurts too

2751
02:24:22,400 --> 02:24:25,080
Speaker 5: questionable for Monday night's game in Seattle due to illness.

2752
02:24:25,320 --> 02:24:26,360
Speaker 8: He did go to Seattle.

2753
02:24:26,720 --> 02:24:28,880
Speaker 5: He traveled separately from the team, though, so try not

2754
02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:32,240
Speaker 5: to get everybody else sick, because there is something going around.

2755
02:24:32,320 --> 02:24:32,560
Speaker 2: Guys.

2756
02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:36,320
Speaker 8: Everybody's sick, like a cough or something a snee.

2757
02:24:36,480 --> 02:24:36,760
Speaker 2: I don't.

2758
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:40,080
Speaker 8: Everybody's a little cool. The flu I had, I thought

2759
02:24:40,120 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 8: I had food poisoning, like two weeks ago.

2760
02:24:41,720 --> 02:24:43,840
Speaker 5: I think I had the stomach bug because them two

2761
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:46,080
Speaker 5: days later, the boyfriend got it and I felt real bad.

2762
02:24:46,920 --> 02:24:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say anything because obviously I don't

2763
02:24:49,320 --> 02:24:51,000
Speaker 2: want to jink. Smile, Well, don't jinks yourself.

2764
02:24:51,080 --> 02:24:51,959
Speaker 8: Drink a lot of vitamin C.

2765
02:24:52,280 --> 02:24:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just shots. I just I have my own way. Yeah,

2766
02:24:55,840 --> 02:24:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, you know it works for me. Yeah, I

2767
02:24:58,120 --> 02:24:59,880
Speaker 2: told you you're like a vampire. I don't.

2768
02:25:00,520 --> 02:25:03,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, he stays away from Garlish.

2769
02:25:04,720 --> 02:25:11,080
Speaker 2: Empire. Great job today is always Stellas pleasure match, always

2770
02:25:11,160 --> 02:25:14,040
Speaker 2: a great time. This Fox sports a red zone radio.

2771
02:25:14,640 --> 02:25:17,520
Speaker 2: So the forty nine ers get a pick six to

2772
02:25:17,640 --> 02:25:20,480
Speaker 2: take a fourteen to seven late on the road against

2773
02:25:20,560 --> 02:25:25,640
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. I'm watching this Bills Cowboys opening drive for

2774
02:25:25,840 --> 02:25:29,600
Speaker 2: the Bills right now. By the way, apparently Josh Allen

2775
02:25:29,800 --> 02:25:33,080
Speaker 2: was watching East and Stick, who must have set an

2776
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:36,000
Speaker 2: NFL record in that Chargers loss of the Raiders of

2777
02:25:36,200 --> 02:25:40,199
Speaker 2: throwing passes directly into the ground. Yeah, I've never seen.

2778
02:25:40,280 --> 02:25:42,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I get the idea you don't want to

2779
02:25:42,080 --> 02:25:45,879
Speaker 2: get intercepted, but I've never seen any quarterback have more

2780
02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:49,600
Speaker 2: ground ball passes than East and Stick had in that

2781
02:25:49,720 --> 02:25:50,560
Speaker 2: Thursday night game.

2782
02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:53,200
Speaker 3: Well, you know the reason why I don't mind it

2783
02:25:53,800 --> 02:25:55,640
Speaker 3: is two reasons, and we don't see it a lot

2784
02:25:55,720 --> 02:25:59,400
Speaker 3: in the NFL anymore. Is because it saves you from

2785
02:25:59,480 --> 02:26:03,640
Speaker 3: getting Yeah, and that's the thing in the NFL that's

2786
02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:04,600
Speaker 3: becoming very common.

2787
02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:07,560
Speaker 2: You see this with Justin Herbert his injury. CJ. Stroud

2788
02:26:07,640 --> 02:26:08,080
Speaker 2: his injury.

2789
02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:10,080
Speaker 3: We might have talked about this last week, Steve, but

2790
02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:13,280
Speaker 3: a lot of these quarterbacks, and it's because there are

2791
02:26:13,360 --> 02:26:16,760
Speaker 3: great athletes, and Josh Allen included, a lot of them

2792
02:26:16,879 --> 02:26:20,520
Speaker 3: try to improvise while they're within the grasp of a defender.

2793
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:22,440
Speaker 2: And so when you're.

2794
02:26:22,440 --> 02:26:24,920
Speaker 3: Looking down field and you're trying to fire the ball

2795
02:26:25,040 --> 02:26:27,920
Speaker 3: off over the heads of somebody over by the sidelines,

2796
02:26:27,959 --> 02:26:30,400
Speaker 3: say don't take the sack, and it's just an incomplete pass.

2797
02:26:30,879 --> 02:26:34,119
Speaker 3: What happens is you fail to protect yourself going down

2798
02:26:34,760 --> 02:26:36,480
Speaker 3: and you know, in the case of Justin Herbert, he

2799
02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:38,960
Speaker 3: breaks his finger. In the case of CJ. Stroud, he

2800
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:42,959
Speaker 3: gets a concussion. I mean, if anything happens to Josh Allen,

2801
02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:45,000
Speaker 3: the Bill season is over.

2802
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:47,240
Speaker 2: You know who did this old skills. I was sort

2803
02:26:47,280 --> 02:26:49,720
Speaker 2: of racking my brain. Damn Marino. Yeah, he threw it

2804
02:26:49,760 --> 02:26:51,840
Speaker 2: into durt A Ton. He did it a lot. He

2805
02:26:51,920 --> 02:26:54,000
Speaker 2: didn't want to get hit. Marino was one of those

2806
02:26:54,080 --> 02:26:55,960
Speaker 2: guys that did not want to get hit. I mean,

2807
02:26:56,000 --> 02:26:58,920
Speaker 2: no quarterback does, obviously, but he wasn't one of those

2808
02:26:59,000 --> 02:27:03,880
Speaker 2: guys to hang in and hang in take it far. Basically,

2809
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:06,840
Speaker 2: if the play wasn't gonna work. He threw the ball away,

2810
02:27:07,560 --> 02:27:09,920
Speaker 2: and he threw dirt balls, a lot of them. So yeah,

2811
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:13,600
Speaker 2: Dan Marino is one of those guys that definitely the

2812
02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:17,920
Speaker 2: famously the ground. All Right, Bill's on this opening drive,

2813
02:27:18,000 --> 02:27:20,440
Speaker 2: have a first and goal at the Dallas three yard line.

2814
02:27:21,080 --> 02:27:23,560
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's going to keep it on first down a

2815
02:27:23,680 --> 02:27:26,200
Speaker 2: design play gets down to about the one one and

2816
02:27:26,200 --> 02:27:29,200
Speaker 2: a half yard line. So an opening drive. But you know,

2817
02:27:29,360 --> 02:27:33,199
Speaker 2: you're you're at home. Bills actually were a slight favorite

2818
02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:36,080
Speaker 2: at home in this game. Huge game for them, obviously

2819
02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:38,879
Speaker 2: with all these other teams winning, they need to keep

2820
02:27:38,959 --> 02:27:41,240
Speaker 2: pace right now for them to have any chance to

2821
02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:44,800
Speaker 2: get into the postseason. And Josh Allen's look good. You know,

2822
02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:48,080
Speaker 2: the Cowboys again have only won three games on the road.

2823
02:27:48,080 --> 02:27:50,360
Speaker 2: They're seven to zero at home this year. There only

2824
02:27:50,480 --> 02:27:53,320
Speaker 2: three road winds are against the Giants, remember that opening

2825
02:27:53,400 --> 02:27:56,560
Speaker 2: game blowout, and then against two teams that have fired

2826
02:27:56,600 --> 02:28:00,680
Speaker 2: their coaches, the Chargers and the Panthers. Right, that is

2827
02:28:00,760 --> 02:28:04,199
Speaker 2: it for the Cowboys, and the Bills have pushed the ball.

2828
02:28:04,440 --> 02:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Did they get into the end zone? Yes, touchdown Buffalo.

2829
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:12,840
Speaker 2: The Tavious Murray gets into the end zone with a

2830
02:28:12,840 --> 02:28:15,920
Speaker 2: little help from his friends, big push there. So just

2831
02:28:16,040 --> 02:28:19,560
Speaker 2: what the Bills needed is by the way, you remember

2832
02:28:19,600 --> 02:28:22,280
Speaker 2: we had Tom Ornaldi on. I don't see any rain

2833
02:28:22,400 --> 02:28:22,800
Speaker 2: right now?

2834
02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it looks like the weather's holding up. And

2835
02:28:25,800 --> 02:28:29,760
Speaker 3: by the way, thirty six degrees or thirty four degrees

2836
02:28:29,840 --> 02:28:33,000
Speaker 3: that kickoff. I mean, we're not talking about a balmy

2837
02:28:33,160 --> 02:28:37,240
Speaker 3: night in Buffalo, but it could be way worse. Trust me,

2838
02:28:37,760 --> 02:28:40,280
Speaker 3: I remember playing December games when I was with the

2839
02:28:40,360 --> 02:28:43,520
Speaker 3: Patriots in Buffalo. Western New York can be brutal this

2840
02:28:43,640 --> 02:28:46,960
Speaker 3: time of year. So when you have still air, you know,

2841
02:28:47,160 --> 02:28:50,120
Speaker 3: I think right now wind is at like five or

2842
02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:54,160
Speaker 3: six miles per hour, no rain, and you're hovering above

2843
02:28:54,280 --> 02:28:55,200
Speaker 3: the freezing point.

2844
02:28:55,560 --> 02:28:57,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you're doing good. You're doing good in Buffalo

2845
02:28:57,879 --> 02:29:00,240
Speaker 2: in December. Well you got to take advantage of a

2846
02:29:00,280 --> 02:29:02,120
Speaker 2: little break in the weather, and the Bills did that

2847
02:29:02,280 --> 02:29:05,360
Speaker 2: on their opening drive. For just like that, Buffalo takes

2848
02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:08,240
Speaker 2: the lead by a score of seven or nothing. So again,

2849
02:29:08,400 --> 02:29:12,520
Speaker 2: as we were looking at those NFL standings, understand how

2850
02:29:12,920 --> 02:29:16,640
Speaker 2: vital is skintting is for Buffalo because already checking in

2851
02:29:16,760 --> 02:29:18,600
Speaker 2: at eight and six, So at the top you have

2852
02:29:18,680 --> 02:29:21,640
Speaker 2: the Ravens at ten and three. Obviously they got a

2853
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:25,119
Speaker 2: game later against Jacksonville. Miami's at ten and four, Chiefs

2854
02:29:25,160 --> 02:29:28,320
Speaker 2: at nine and five, Jags at eight and five, and

2855
02:29:28,400 --> 02:29:31,600
Speaker 2: then you have the Browns at nine and five, so

2856
02:29:31,720 --> 02:29:34,920
Speaker 2: they're that five seed right now. And then you have

2857
02:29:35,000 --> 02:29:37,720
Speaker 2: the Bengals at eight and six, Colts at eight and six,

2858
02:29:38,280 --> 02:29:41,080
Speaker 2: Texans at eight and six, and that's where the Bills

2859
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:43,200
Speaker 2: need to get to otherwise they fall back with the

2860
02:29:43,240 --> 02:29:46,400
Speaker 2: Steelers and Broncos. And I think we talked about this

2861
02:29:46,440 --> 02:29:49,120
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier. If the Bills can get on

2862
02:29:49,240 --> 02:29:53,400
Speaker 2: a December roll and get themselves into the postseason, because

2863
02:29:53,680 --> 02:29:56,640
Speaker 2: I asked the question earlier, who could win a game

2864
02:29:56,720 --> 02:30:02,640
Speaker 2: on the road in the AFC, Dolphins, Chiefs, We don't

2865
02:30:02,680 --> 02:30:04,720
Speaker 2: know because they've never been there. You would guess yeah,

2866
02:30:05,040 --> 02:30:10,560
Speaker 2: because they have Mahomes, Jaguars, Browns, Bengals, Colts, Texans, and

2867
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:14,960
Speaker 2: then there's Buffalo with their playoff experience. That is a

2868
02:30:15,080 --> 02:30:19,240
Speaker 2: team that you don't want to see in the postseason. No, no, no, no,

2869
02:30:19,320 --> 02:30:21,160
Speaker 2: no no. If they have a healthy Josh Allen.

2870
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:24,560
Speaker 3: If they have a healthy Josh Allen, that is a long,

2871
02:30:24,640 --> 02:30:25,880
Speaker 3: hard day in the postseason.

2872
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah.

2873
02:30:27,120 --> 02:30:30,279
Speaker 3: I mean, look, here's the tricky thing about the NFL

2874
02:30:30,400 --> 02:30:34,040
Speaker 3: this year. When you look around the league and you

2875
02:30:34,120 --> 02:30:36,800
Speaker 3: look at all the injuries to quarterbacks, you say, ah,

2876
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:39,160
Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of a down year. But then

2877
02:30:39,160 --> 02:30:41,480
Speaker 3: when you look at the standings and you think how

2878
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:44,440
Speaker 3: the postseason is going to shake out, well, then all

2879
02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:45,520
Speaker 3: of a sudden it becomes clear.

2880
02:30:45,600 --> 02:30:46,320
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, no, no, no.

2881
02:30:47,120 --> 02:30:49,840
Speaker 3: I mean at the top of the AFC, it's kind

2882
02:30:49,879 --> 02:30:53,879
Speaker 3: of murderer's row, you know, Lamar Jackson to a tongue

2883
02:30:53,879 --> 02:30:56,400
Speaker 3: of I low if there's any modicum of health coming

2884
02:30:56,440 --> 02:30:59,280
Speaker 3: into the postseason for the Miami Dolphins upfront, on their

2885
02:30:59,320 --> 02:31:04,000
Speaker 3: offensive line, in their skill positions. I mean, like, it's

2886
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:07,040
Speaker 3: pretty scary at the top of the heap. Trevor Lawrence

2887
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:09,480
Speaker 3: and the Jags dangerous team. We'll see if they can

2888
02:31:09,560 --> 02:31:11,920
Speaker 3: hang on to win that division. You know, you look

2889
02:31:11,959 --> 02:31:16,760
Speaker 3: at the NFC side, Jared Goff, I mean, inconsistent at times,

2890
02:31:16,840 --> 02:31:19,240
Speaker 3: but he's been a good performer past two seasons for

2891
02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:23,680
Speaker 3: Detroit and dak and Brock Purdy. I mean, nobody wants

2892
02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:26,080
Speaker 3: to see those teams right now. And the Philadelphia Eagles

2893
02:31:26,120 --> 02:31:30,240
Speaker 3: don't forget even with the recent loss. I mean, Jalen

2894
02:31:30,320 --> 02:31:33,080
Speaker 3: Hurts is a baller, he's a gamer, and I don't

2895
02:31:33,080 --> 02:31:36,160
Speaker 3: know if he's been one hundred percent healthy. But Philadelphia

2896
02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:39,600
Speaker 3: Eagles they're scary team too. So yeah, it's been looking

2897
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:43,480
Speaker 3: a little desperate around the league. But there's enough health

2898
02:31:43,640 --> 02:31:48,760
Speaker 3: and enough weapons to make a really significant postseason, especially

2899
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:49,440
Speaker 3: when you look at.

2900
02:31:49,400 --> 02:31:51,680
Speaker 2: The top of the board in each conference. I had

2901
02:31:51,720 --> 02:31:54,200
Speaker 2: a little flashback here, so when I was at Allegied

2902
02:31:54,280 --> 02:31:58,120
Speaker 2: Stadium on Thursday with the Boys, we got there early purposely.

2903
02:31:58,280 --> 02:32:00,520
Speaker 2: Take a look around the stadium. By the way, it's

2904
02:32:00,520 --> 02:32:03,400
Speaker 2: the third smallest stadium in the NFL, but it's a

2905
02:32:03,480 --> 02:32:07,000
Speaker 2: perfect home for the Raiders, and they have this endless

2906
02:32:07,080 --> 02:32:09,720
Speaker 2: wall of Raiders that are in the Pro Football Hall

2907
02:32:09,760 --> 02:32:12,480
Speaker 2: of Fame and includes guys like Eric Dickerson who was

2908
02:32:12,520 --> 02:32:14,920
Speaker 2: only there for a year, Right, you don't You don't

2909
02:32:14,959 --> 02:32:17,640
Speaker 2: think of him as a Raider, which in the back

2910
02:32:17,680 --> 02:32:21,119
Speaker 2: of my mind, I'm thinking if Mike Shanahan is ever

2911
02:32:21,200 --> 02:32:24,680
Speaker 2: elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, considering he

2912
02:32:24,879 --> 02:32:27,199
Speaker 2: sued the Raiders to try to get back Bay because

2913
02:32:27,240 --> 02:32:30,120
Speaker 2: Al Davis refused to pay him after firing him. Yeah,

2914
02:32:30,800 --> 02:32:32,760
Speaker 2: would they put it would they put him up on

2915
02:32:32,840 --> 02:32:36,000
Speaker 2: the wall. And by the way, I was worried. That

2916
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:38,480
Speaker 2: was my last year working for the Raiders when we

2917
02:32:38,600 --> 02:32:41,760
Speaker 2: hired Mike Shanahan, this quarterback, he wouldn't even coordinated. He

2918
02:32:41,879 --> 02:32:44,880
Speaker 2: was a quarterback coach for the Broncos, thirty five years old.

2919
02:32:45,240 --> 02:32:48,080
Speaker 2: And I remember at the press conference him introducing me

2920
02:32:48,200 --> 02:32:52,160
Speaker 2: to his eight year old son, Kyle. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2921
02:32:52,280 --> 02:32:53,160
Speaker 2: his eight year old.

2922
02:32:53,480 --> 02:32:57,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's uh, look, it's it. I well, first

2923
02:32:57,120 --> 02:32:59,359
Speaker 3: and foremost, my guess is doubtful.

2924
02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:04,440
Speaker 2: Doubt right. I mean, I know that Mark is his son,

2925
02:33:04,520 --> 02:33:06,400
Speaker 2: has been trying to undo some of the bad blood

2926
02:33:06,440 --> 02:33:08,720
Speaker 2: that's his dad had, but that that would be a

2927
02:33:08,760 --> 02:33:12,760
Speaker 2: little weird if if Shannon Obviously, Mike Shanahan, many people

2928
02:33:12,800 --> 02:33:15,320
Speaker 2: feels long overdue to be in the Pro Football Hall

2929
02:33:15,320 --> 02:33:17,520
Speaker 2: of Fame with his two Super Bowl wins. All right,

2930
02:33:17,879 --> 02:33:20,760
Speaker 2: cowboy's trying to get back in this one. Seven nothing bills,

2931
02:33:21,040 --> 02:33:22,640
Speaker 2: seven and a half minutes to go in the four

2932
02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:24,520
Speaker 2: score in this game. All right, We're gonna wrap things

2933
02:33:24,600 --> 02:33:26,840
Speaker 2: up with some of our thoughts on games to come

2934
02:33:27,280 --> 02:33:30,240
Speaker 2: and what just happened today in the NFL. This is

2935
02:33:30,320 --> 02:33:35,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Beelds, Chase Bot Garrett flushed. Look,

2936
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:43,600
Speaker 2: it sets up throwing deep Hail Mary ensoled deflict, old accepted,

2937
02:33:44,400 --> 02:33:48,160
Speaker 2: almost caught, and then a deflection into the hands of

2938
02:33:48,280 --> 02:33:54,200
Speaker 2: the Anthony Bell, donl Broody, he king way close to

2939
02:33:54,360 --> 02:33:56,400
Speaker 2: a deep winter head.

2940
02:33:56,480 --> 02:34:00,720
Speaker 3: Instead, the Browns survive twenty I'm seventeen.

2941
02:34:01,640 --> 02:34:05,680
Speaker 2: That's Fox TV right there, so close to a Hail

2942
02:34:05,760 --> 02:34:09,840
Speaker 2: Mary victory for the Bears, but the Browns survive big

2943
02:34:10,000 --> 02:34:13,360
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve Hartin and Rich Ormberger.

2949
02:34:30,560 --> 02:34:33,440
Speaker 2: We are live from the Tyraq dot Com studios and

2950
02:34:33,560 --> 02:34:36,959
Speaker 2: our crew is simply second and none. Montcy of course

2951
02:34:37,040 --> 02:34:41,680
Speaker 2: doing a phenomenal job as she always does on all

2952
02:34:41,760 --> 02:34:44,520
Speaker 2: the updates. Chris of course, feeling on top of the

2953
02:34:44,600 --> 02:34:49,119
Speaker 2: world after Jared Go's five touchdown pass performance last night

2954
02:34:49,680 --> 02:34:53,400
Speaker 2: against the Broncos, just absolutely tore them apart. So everyone

2955
02:34:53,480 --> 02:34:56,120
Speaker 2: saw about the Lions. They're not playing well. Do you

2956
02:34:56,200 --> 02:34:58,080
Speaker 2: feel much better about your Lions right now?

2957
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:00,440
Speaker 7: I think it's exactly what we talked about. We talked

2958
02:35:00,440 --> 02:35:02,720
Speaker 7: about this a little last week, that the Lions just

2959
02:35:02,879 --> 02:35:05,480
Speaker 7: needed a much better matchup game to get right and

2960
02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:08,720
Speaker 7: you could run on Denver. Like, I know Denver was hot,

2961
02:35:08,760 --> 02:35:11,040
Speaker 7: but I felt like, you come out of those division games,

2962
02:35:11,080 --> 02:35:13,640
Speaker 7: you get a game like Denver at home, the loudest

2963
02:35:13,720 --> 02:35:16,440
Speaker 7: it's been at Ford Field all year. That's exactly what

2964
02:35:16,520 --> 02:35:19,720
Speaker 7: the Lions wanted to get their mojo back, especially next

2965
02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:23,920
Speaker 7: two of three games you're playing Minnesota probably for the

2966
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:27,440
Speaker 7: division here. Yeah, right now, the Lions are in really

2967
02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:28,000
Speaker 7: good shape.

2968
02:35:28,520 --> 02:35:32,600
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Bo Benson and of course are brilliant producer his

2969
02:35:32,840 --> 02:35:37,800
Speaker 2: Eagles back to back blowout losses after you know, you know,

2970
02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:39,840
Speaker 2: ten and one start all of a sudden, sitting at

2971
02:35:39,879 --> 02:35:42,720
Speaker 2: ten and three on the road against the Seahawks and

2972
02:35:42,920 --> 02:35:44,840
Speaker 2: your quarterback Jalen Hurts isn't feeling well.

2973
02:35:45,480 --> 02:35:47,039
Speaker 14: Yeah, Steve, I got to be honest with you, Since

2974
02:35:47,080 --> 02:35:50,160
Speaker 14: about noon last Saturday, I've been in a show. Hey

2975
02:35:50,200 --> 02:35:53,680
Speaker 14: o Tani induced coma. Yeah, so everything else just kind

2976
02:35:53,720 --> 02:35:54,360
Speaker 14: of doesn't matter.

2977
02:35:54,640 --> 02:35:58,039
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're good, and are you we're getting we're.

2978
02:35:57,959 --> 02:35:59,960
Speaker 14: Getting Marcus Mariota versus Drew Locke tomorrow.

2979
02:36:00,160 --> 02:36:01,480
Speaker 2: He was he was not feeling great.

2980
02:36:01,520 --> 02:36:03,920
Speaker 7: And then we also saw this morning that Matt Patricia

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Speaker 7: is going to be calling defensive plays.

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Speaker 14: Matt Patricia is suddenly the Eagles defensive coordinator and everything

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Speaker 14: but title. So what's going on there?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So, I since you're talking about your beloved Dodgers

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Speaker 2: and the addition of show heyo Tani, he's under lock

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Speaker 2: and key for ten years, how many World Series Championships

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Speaker 2: do you expect over the next ten years? Was sho

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Speaker 2: heyo Tani?

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Speaker 14: Did I expect?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? How many World champion you expect? Ten? Like that?

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Speaker 14: Are they going to win ten? I doubt it, But

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Speaker 14: it's still worth it.

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Speaker 2: It's still worth And now if there's zero, will you

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Speaker 2: be okay with ye? Still worth it? Still worth it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You see that? Yeah, to make a shot, This is

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Speaker 2: a shot. This is how things have changed for Dodgers fans,

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Speaker 2: at least some Dodgers fans.

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Speaker 14: You noticed during Otani's press conference that he he said

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Speaker 14: that the culture of winning that they have built over

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Speaker 14: the last decade or so is one of the main

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Speaker 14: reasons he signed there.

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Speaker 2: Well, it makes sense he's going to be in the

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Speaker 2: playoffs every year exactly. That's how you can do.

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Speaker 14: You just got to get there and then you see

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Speaker 14: what happens.

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Speaker 2: But when you have Dave Roberts after they clinched another

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Speaker 2: NL West title this year, in the locker room with

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Speaker 2: the celebration, he said, this matters, guys, Well, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter if you then turn around and get swept in

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Speaker 2: the first round by the Arizona Diamondbacks. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Richie for the Patriots, because you were on

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Speaker 2: one of those legendary organizations and you were there when

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Speaker 2: they lost a Super Bowl to the Giants. Any any celebration,

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Speaker 2: well we won the afcast or we got to the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, anything of that mentality or was it an

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Speaker 2: all or nothing situation playing for an organization like the Patriots. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: there was.

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Speaker 3: There was no celebrating outside of outside of yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 3: I guess in the end, you know, you feel good

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Speaker 3: that you got to the final game, but nobody felt

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Speaker 3: good about the about the season. I mean still there

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Speaker 3: are times where you know myself day dreaming about it

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Speaker 3: and think like gosh. I mean, how different things would

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Speaker 3: be if if you get that that win in instead

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Speaker 3: of the loss. But look, that's sports. In the case

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Speaker 3: of show Hey Otani or any team from a front

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Speaker 3: office standpoint who's making an acquisition like this. You can't

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Speaker 3: just strictly look at it in terms of WS and

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Speaker 3: ls though. You have to look at it in terms

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Speaker 3: of P and L profit and loss. I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna lose a ton of money over the next whatever

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Speaker 3: it is, two decades while they're paying deferred payments and

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Speaker 3: paying out this contract. But they are gonna make so

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Speaker 3: much money internationally. He is the biggest star in Japan.

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Speaker 1: But I.

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Speaker 2: Get it. From an organizational standpoint, it is a win

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Speaker 2: win win win win. Okay, good, but fans don't care

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Speaker 2: that the organization is making more money. Right, fans won

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Speaker 2: a championship, and more than not Dodger fans that I

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Speaker 2: know discount twenty twenty. I mean, they won the World Series.

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Speaker 2: It was a short year. All the games are played

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Speaker 2: in Texas. There was no parade from so many Dodger fans.

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Speaker 2: Ice fair or not. They say, we haven't won a champion,

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Speaker 2: a legit championship since nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 7: They sound miserable. Yeah, every Dodger fan I knew in

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Speaker 7: this building celebrated that championship.

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Speaker 14: Really, you know what, if you want to do that,

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Speaker 14: I'll take it as a compensation for twenty seventeen when

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Speaker 14: Dashers got to cheat.

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Speaker 2: And didn't have anything. Naigers sounded like the Dodgers, but

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Speaker 2: that you see what. They actually put more legitimacy in

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Speaker 2: being robbed in twenty seventeen than they do and actually

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Speaker 2: win he in twenty twenty. Well, the bottom line is

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Speaker 2: they expect o'tawne to be the guy that's going to

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Speaker 2: deliver them a world championship, and fair or not, and

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Speaker 2: there's nothing to dislike about o'twani. He's got a seven

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollar target on his back if they fall short. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: now he's gotta make good on that. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: that's where it is. Who do you like tonight? Ravens

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Speaker 2: and Jacks? He got one second? Uh Jacks going with

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Speaker 2: the Jags at home. This is Fox Sports Radio