Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never let our last
Speaker 1: second field goal get blocked. I'm here in the Chris
Speaker 1: Wesleyan podcast studio not annoyed at all that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: keep just winning these games somehow, next to my friend
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybon and joined by our friend Nick Shook live
Speaker 1: from Cleveland, who gets in his one word at the
Speaker 1: top of the show.
Speaker 2: One word to describe Week ten.
Speaker 3: So far grueling.
Speaker 2: Grueling. Okay, maybe he's.
Speaker 1: Talking about the late afternoon window. It disappointed us. And
Speaker 1: that's the great thing about this week ten recap show. Patrick,
Speaker 1: We just don't have to start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can just move that along as it did
Speaker 4: feel like like we were in line at like a
Speaker 4: Swedish prison and we were getting like ladled into us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like in the late eighteenth like, oh, would
Speaker 1: you like a little more Cooper Rush. Oh, here's a
Speaker 1: little Trey Lance. No interception, No thank you.
Speaker 5: I'll deal with scurvy.
Speaker 1: That's why we start at the beginning, when there was
Speaker 1: a lot of excitement, a lot of great games, not
Speaker 1: a lot of results that I think shocked me. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say we're settling into the part of the
Speaker 1: season where we're figuring teams out because the second you
Speaker 1: think that it'll flip again. But this was a Sunday
Speaker 1: where I don't think there were a lot of results
Speaker 1: that were crazy, but there were results in games that
Speaker 1: were entertaining. Starting in Landover, Let's go to Steelers against
Speaker 1: the Commanders.
Speaker 6: Wilson settles, back, raises the foot, gets the snap back
Speaker 6: to pass looking gonna floated up left for Williams.
Speaker 5: And why.
Speaker 2: In the end zone you want to throw? Want to catch?
Speaker 2: Mike Williams did his first game in a Steelers.
Speaker 7: Uniform, has hauled in a thirty two yard touchdown stripe
Speaker 7: from Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3: Oh, he threw that ball Wang Dang doodle down the sidelines.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen anything like this.
Speaker 8: First target, first catch could be a game Winter Ker
Speaker 8: is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: That was Rob King and Craig wolf Lee.
Speaker 1: You'll hear from both Wolfley brothers on this show WDV
Speaker 1: E Yes, Mike Williams. His first target as a Steeler
Speaker 1: was one of those tier drop Russell Wilson throws that
Speaker 1: you know he's made famous.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight twenty seven.
Speaker 1: The Steelers hold on after a little bit of controversy
Speaker 1: after some stupidity by Washington in the following couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: But Nick, I'm gonna start this game without having one
Speaker 1: big takeaway because this was not a game for one
Speaker 1: big takeaway. That like, if you watch every single step.
Speaker 1: Jayden and Russell Wilson both struggled for good stretches of
Speaker 1: the game. They only threw fifty percent completion. Both special
Speaker 1: teams really messed up. You look at the final score,
Speaker 1: you think the defenses didn't play that well, but the
Speaker 1: two offenses barely averaged more than four yards per play.
Speaker 1: It was situational, it was coaching, it was a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything. But it ends with Russell Wilson making
Speaker 1: the plays, having a couple great throws in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: one to Pickens, one to Mike Williams, and the Commanders
Speaker 1: not being able to execute at the end, and after
Speaker 1: a while, I think you just have to believe that
Speaker 1: the Steelers at seven to two, are here to stay.
Speaker 1: They can beat good teams, they can beat bad teams,
Speaker 1: and that they're gonna be a main character in this
Speaker 1: AFC race the rest of the way.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that if this is no knock on
Speaker 9: Justin Fields, but if he was still their quarterback, this
Speaker 9: might have gone differently for them. This win, more than anything,
Speaker 9: I think justifies Mike Tomlin's decision to go to Russell
Speaker 9: Wilson in the.
Speaker 3: Way that they finished that game.
Speaker 9: But that's not the only, you know, main takeaway from
Speaker 9: the Steelers performance. What it really was to me visually
Speaker 9: was a battle between playoff contenders and the records match
Speaker 9: what we saw now not two elite teams, not a shootout,
Speaker 9: but a team that, you know, the Steelers is a
Speaker 9: good defense. It's gonna limit the strength of the Commanders,
Speaker 9: which is Jaden Daniels's Cliff Kingsbury offense, and they're kind
Speaker 9: of gonna go toe to toe, back and forth. They're
Speaker 9: gonna have some mistakes. Like if you look at the
Speaker 9: possession chart for the Steelers, first off, a ton of possessions,
Speaker 9: but secondly it ends an interception, fumble, touchdown, end of game.
Speaker 9: That's about the entire spectrum of how drives can finish
Speaker 9: for you, because it was that type of game.
Speaker 3: But a gritty win.
Speaker 9: For a Steelers team that just specializes in winning games
Speaker 9: like this no matter the quarterback, and because they have Russ,
Speaker 9: they're able to throw themselves to victory in not a
Speaker 9: desperate situation, but the situation in which he's under pressure.
Speaker 9: He throws it off his back foot and puts it
Speaker 9: perfectly on the new guy, Mike Williams, who makes a
Speaker 9: big play in a big spot.
Speaker 4: I joked because we had the day on the trade deadline.
Speaker 4: We had Tom Pellisero on NFL Fantasy Live and we're
Speaker 4: asking him about the Mike Williams trade, and literally there
Speaker 4: were six Mike Williams highlights in the package that we showed.
Speaker 4: All five of them were balls down the sideline, like
Speaker 4: go balls or deep shots down the sideline, and the
Speaker 4: meme and criticism of Russell Wilson's that's all he does. Okay,
Speaker 4: Williams comes in and his first catch is a go
Speaker 4: ahead touchdown.
Speaker 5: The Steelers were able to take risks.
Speaker 4: They had the fake punt early deep in their own territory,
Speaker 4: and they had that it was a good look, it
Speaker 4: was a good call, just execution, a drop out on
Speaker 4: the edge, and so the Commanders get their first scoring
Speaker 4: opportunity there. But what leaps off to me was I
Speaker 4: was thinking the Steelers defense would give Washington and jayde
Speaker 4: Daniels problems was scrambling.
Speaker 5: He had three carries for five yards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I went back and looked his entire career
Speaker 4: at Arizona State and at LSU. Only one game where
Speaker 4: he had less than five yards rushing. It was when
Speaker 4: they got blown out by Georgia in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Other than that, that's a that's one play for Jane Daniels.
Speaker 4: The Steelers were able to shout them down all game.
Speaker 1: They had a great rush plan where I think they
Speaker 1: decided to give up a little bit of you know,
Speaker 1: getting sacks. It wasn't a huge sack day for them
Speaker 1: to stay in there, you know, with their integrity. And
Speaker 1: Tomlin said after the game, like you got to be
Speaker 1: careful comparedring him to Lamar Jackson. That's a multi time
Speaker 1: time MVP. That's mister Jackson. We'll see him in a
Speaker 1: few days. And I think what he was saying was
Speaker 1: just look, he's done it before against Lamar Jackson. Let's
Speaker 1: see what Jane Danis can do. And they only had
Speaker 1: sixty yards rushing the Commanders all day. I think they
Speaker 1: missed Brian Robinson. And you're right pointing out how many
Speaker 1: possessions they had. That short touchdown drive was part of
Speaker 1: a first quarter where they had four possessions and they
Speaker 1: barely moved the ball at all, like three three and outs.
Speaker 1: He just hadn't seen this. And yet they did get
Speaker 1: a lead because they got a short field. They had
Speaker 1: a nice touchdown drive before halftime. They were really good situationally.
Speaker 1: They had another one coming out of the half and
Speaker 1: they're kind of rolling. Cliff is getting Terry McLaurin open.
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with how Cliff Kingsbury has called games
Speaker 1: this year. And I flip it around and when they
Speaker 1: were in a good spot, thinking they're going to be
Speaker 1: able to stop Pittsburgh, and I'm wondering, like, why aren't
Speaker 1: these teams playing Russ with split safeties anymore. I texted
Speaker 1: our our friend me and about it, and she's just
Speaker 1: going crazy because eighty three percent they played cover three today.
Speaker 1: Russ was won for three for thirteen yards against Cover three,
Speaker 1: and like, that is his one move, and I think,
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive coordinator, you got to do everything
Speaker 1: you can to stop it. Because otherwise their running game
Speaker 1: was okay, I would say on Sunday, but the passing
Speaker 1: game was very erratic.
Speaker 2: They had the great.
Speaker 1: Touchdown early that Pickens adjusts for there's another deep sideline
Speaker 1: that Pickens makes a great play.
Speaker 2: But otherwise it was a lot of go balls that
Speaker 2: Russ likes.
Speaker 1: To throw to Calvin Austin and Van Jefferson, and they
Speaker 1: were not working. So this was a game with a
Speaker 1: lot of possessions. It was really intriguing both ways because
Speaker 1: Washington couldn't get much of a pass rush except for
Speaker 1: Frankie Luvu on a blitz. Their natural pass rush wasn't working.
Speaker 1: It was two I think really well coached teams, which
Speaker 1: is why the ending was a little surprising. Let's break
Speaker 1: it down here that Commanders get the ball back after
Speaker 1: that touchdown that we just heard, and Washington starts moving
Speaker 1: the ball. They don't get the first down on a
Speaker 1: play a fourth and nine to zach Ertz where he's
Speaker 1: coming back from the ball. They rule him just short.
Speaker 1: The replays aren't really conclusive. I actually think they probably
Speaker 1: made the right call. It was it was tough to
Speaker 1: really figure out. The Steelers get the ball back, just
Speaker 1: needing one first down to really ice the game. They
Speaker 1: get it to a fourth and one at midfield, they
Speaker 1: go out. Then they rushed to the ball to get
Speaker 1: a snap, they are able to draw Johnny Newton off side.
Speaker 2: Game over.
Speaker 1: They were never gonna snap the ball, they were gonna
Speaker 1: punt it away. So in the end, in a coaching
Speaker 1: game where the margins were so slim, I think like
Speaker 1: the Steelers kind of won it in the end, and
Speaker 1: a rookie on Washington's side, you know, failed them, and
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh gets out of here with a win.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that was a bummer for Newton in that instance,
Speaker 9: you knew they were never going to snapt the ball.
Speaker 9: At one point they thought they were gonna put the
Speaker 9: pun team out there. Then also the offense trots back out.
Speaker 9: But it is what it is. That's what happens when
Speaker 9: you're a young player in the NFL. On that spot, though,
Speaker 9: they did get the right call, like it was correct,
Speaker 9: he was short, but where they actually spotted the ball
Speaker 9: was wrong.
Speaker 3: I just won't point that out.
Speaker 9: And I know I'm completely splitting hairs, but he was
Speaker 9: not at the forty two. His foot was at the
Speaker 9: forty two. The rest of his body was near the
Speaker 9: forty one. So let's just get that straight.
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that, Nick, and I think it's
Speaker 4: something that again, it maybe only bothers those of us
Speaker 4: who truly are frustrated with consistent spotting of the football.
Speaker 4: But if you're gonna review whether or not the line
Speaker 4: to gain was obtained, at the very least, the very
Speaker 4: least we could do is put the ball on the
Speaker 4: right spot. The Steelers are gonna get the ball exactly.
Speaker 4: The Steels are gonna get the ball anyway. Okay, But
Speaker 4: I would just like to have seen it, because if
Speaker 4: it's in a challenge situation, we see it happen a
Speaker 4: lot where the coach is challenging that they didn't get
Speaker 4: the line to gain, but the challenge does reveal the
Speaker 4: spot was way off. I think coaches shouldn't lose that challenge.
Speaker 4: But ultimately, yeah, it's a rough one for Johnny Newton.
Speaker 4: You could see you could sell in the Steelers body
Speaker 4: language after they got him to jump off sides that
Speaker 4: there it was.
Speaker 5: In fact, no way they were going to snap the ball.
Speaker 4: That's why they were celebrating so viciously, like six Russell
Speaker 4: Wilson fist pumps to go with it.
Speaker 1: Brett Russell had some nice dance moves afterwards, like I
Speaker 1: haven't seen him move that well on the field in
Speaker 1: a while he did have one scramble like for six
Speaker 1: yards that was kind of key. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: he's moving a little bit better. I will point out
Speaker 1: I think Jane Daniels a little off in this game.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: It might have been what the Steelers were showing him
Speaker 1: before after the snap, but he just missed about four
Speaker 1: or five throws that would have made a difference by
Speaker 1: just a couple of yards, like a Noah Brown throw
Speaker 1: on that final drive right before the fourth down, where
Speaker 1: Noah Brown had a chance to come back and catch it.
Speaker 1: But if he had led Noah Brown, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he makes that catch. There was a big miss
Speaker 1: to McCaffrey. There was a couple others where maybe he
Speaker 1: didn't lead receivers in such a way, and just a
Speaker 1: couple of misses that we hadn't seen from Jane Daniels
Speaker 1: most of the season. I'll give the Steelers a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. I think we're kind of confusing him. He
Speaker 1: only ends up fifty percent completion, massive win for the
Speaker 1: Steelers to get to seven to two, cause their skeed
Speaker 1: is so tough coming up. The Commanders fall to seven
Speaker 1: and three, and while we're giving Russ some love. Let's
Speaker 1: look at his Instagram posts because I thought this was cool.
Speaker 1: Two of the class of two thousand and twelve, him
Speaker 1: and Bobby Wagner both getting it done in this game.
Speaker 1: They signed each other's jerseys. Forever, legendary, forever brothers. Love
Speaker 1: you for life, Bro. They gave us an F grade
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. This is true that I do remember. Actually,
Speaker 1: there were some like f's the Seahawks.
Speaker 5: Did not heed and shame.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't one where it's a straw man, because
Speaker 1: I remember this was a story.
Speaker 2: For a couple of years after that.
Speaker 1: There were their draft grades were not great when they
Speaker 1: drafted the great Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner maybe someday
Speaker 1: teammates in Canton. Let's go to Arrowhead, where, yes, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are quarterbacked by.
Speaker 2: A man who will one day in being kitting himself.
Speaker 5: Who looks for Boonie to snap, Riley to hold wot's
Speaker 5: the kick to watch.
Speaker 2: That is the great Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 1: We usually go locally, but Kevin Harlan's so freaking awesome.
Speaker 4: I hope to one day do something one time as
Speaker 4: good as Kevin Harland is on the microphone.
Speaker 2: That was the call of the block heard around the world.
Speaker 1: Leo Chanel, what a season this guy is having, gets
Speaker 1: the block more on him in a minute.
Speaker 2: Sixteen to fourteen looked like the Chiefs were.
Speaker 1: Finally gonna get picked off. Everyone would have been saying
Speaker 1: they were looking ahead to the bill.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. It was a division game.
Speaker 1: Broncos played well, but not well enough. They fall the
Speaker 1: five and five and the Chiefs remain undefeated. Patrick at
Speaker 1: nine to zero, Nick, Rather, it's your game. When you
Speaker 1: saw that happen, did you think, like ba don't lie
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs played well enough to win?
Speaker 2: Or were you just like, now, come on, man.
Speaker 9: No, I was bumped for the Broncos because they played well.
Speaker 9: Win Bonnicks had a great game. He had a rough
Speaker 9: second half, but he put together a great drive to
Speaker 9: get them in position. There he converts a third and
Speaker 9: six with a thirteen yard pass to Courtland Sutton. Broncos
Speaker 9: fans are going crazy both there, in Denver, online, everywhere.
Speaker 9: They're gonna pull it off. They bleed the clock down.
Speaker 9: They're in perfect position for Will Lutz to hit a
Speaker 9: relatively simple field goal, and then the overload block from
Speaker 9: the Chiefs just barrels through the left side of that.
Speaker 3: Line and they get the block.
Speaker 9: You know, if it wasn't Leo Chanalho got it, I
Speaker 9: think somebody else probably would have got it, because they
Speaker 9: obliterated the left side of that line there.
Speaker 3: They were all out going for it, and I don't
Speaker 3: know if it was an.
Speaker 9: Answering of a prayer, but the Chiefs were in dire
Speaker 9: straits there. And really it started on the previous offensive
Speaker 9: POSSESSI where it's third and goal and Patrick Mahomes as
Speaker 9: Travis Kelsey opened in the end zone and he sails
Speaker 9: it over his head. They have to settle for a
Speaker 9: field goal, which then opens the door for the Broncos
Speaker 9: to get down there. But yeah, I thought the Broncos
Speaker 9: played well enough to win. They played probably one of
Speaker 9: their best games of the season. They came out hot,
Speaker 9: they took a fourteen to three lead. Bonnicks was firing
Speaker 9: passes all over the field, but Steve Spagnello's defense did
Speaker 9: just in the second half, they got more pressure on him.
Speaker 9: They had a Nick Bolton sack on the second or
Speaker 9: third down, a long, huge loss that set them back
Speaker 9: and they had to punt and give the ball back
Speaker 9: to the Chiefs. So a back and forth game, a
Speaker 9: classic divisional rivalry. But the first time really I've seen
Speaker 9: from the Broncos where I thought, you know, there might
Speaker 9: be a little bit of fraudulents to this team. They
Speaker 9: went toe to toe with the Chiefs in a low
Speaker 9: scoring affair, and the Chiefs were the same offense they
Speaker 9: were and at the end of the day, the special
Speaker 9: teams build them out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and coming into the game, this was something Greg
Speaker 4: Rosenthal predicted that the Chiefs offense, despite how they looked
Speaker 4: against Tampa Bay, going in a familiar team against the
Speaker 4: Vance Joseph defense that has given them problems over the
Speaker 4: past few years, would slow things down. Now again, Mahomes
Speaker 4: Salem won over Kelsey's head. That's just the universe. Sometimes
Speaker 4: it just doesn't necessarily work out. But I wondered watching
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, showed that just the wave of Chiefs
Speaker 4: defenders over the left side of that field goal unit,
Speaker 4: if we're not seeing the lingering impacts of the Giants
Speaker 4: and the whole down block kick where we've said multiple
Speaker 4: guys get jumped over, and so now perhaps these protectors
Speaker 4: are a little more upright in these pressure situations and
Speaker 4: getting bowled over just something to jump out.
Speaker 9: That's a losing strategy. Patrick low Man wins. That's the
Speaker 9: basis of football right there.
Speaker 1: Well, my old boss Florio did some good reporting on this,
Speaker 1: talking to Chanelle after the game, and they said some
Speaker 1: tape study just how the person he was going against
Speaker 1: had set up the last time, you know, indicated he
Speaker 1: would be vulnerable to just like a power rushing move
Speaker 1: that they could get him off his feet. But Chanelle
Speaker 1: pointed out, what you did, Nick, was that we had
Speaker 1: the time, we had their snap timed up so well
Speaker 1: that everyone was getting through. So something that they saw
Speaker 1: on tape just great job. It comes down to special teams.
Speaker 1: They've been one of the best coach special teams for
Speaker 1: a long time. It's Dave Tabb there, right, And so
Speaker 1: the Chiefs get a special teams win. They can win
Speaker 1: all sorts of different ways. What did you think about
Speaker 1: how Mahomes look And yes, Vance Joseph held this team
Speaker 1: to fourteen points per game last year. They beat them
Speaker 1: by two scores last year in one game. I know
Speaker 1: that Chiefs team was struggling at the time, but it
Speaker 1: was twenty four to nine in one of that Broncos games.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't surprise me coming off a short week,
Speaker 1: coming off a week where they had a ton of
Speaker 1: plays against the Bucks eighty three plays on offense specifically,
Speaker 1: and the Broncos really good defense takes advantage. What did
Speaker 1: you see out of Mahomes, because yeah, I heard some
Speaker 1: that you know, maybe didn't looked a little gimpy on
Speaker 1: the ankle, and the red zone efficiency not great. Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt leads them and receiving which is a little weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had some struggles in the red zone.
Speaker 9: But what really stood out to me was Denver's defense
Speaker 9: found a way to generate pressure all afternoon.
Speaker 3: Nick Benito went crazy against them.
Speaker 9: In fact, he should have had another sack, but he
Speaker 9: slipped off of Patrick mahomes shoulders and then he throws
Speaker 9: a pass down the sideline to samaj p Ryan, which
Speaker 9: then prompts Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 3: To go how does he do it?
Speaker 9: It's true like it's a magic act that Mahomes pulls off,
Speaker 9: but they weren't as frequent as they were in past games.
Speaker 9: They very much looked like the same offense, except the
Speaker 9: pressure rate was so much higher. Their success rate drops
Speaker 9: down to thirty six point nine percent offensively for the
Speaker 9: Chiefs and a huge that was a result of this
Speaker 9: Denver defense, which did a great job. They finished the
Speaker 9: four sacks they were getting after them all day, and
Speaker 9: it kind of undercut a lot of what they do offensively,
Speaker 9: which is not spectacular.
Speaker 3: They did take a couple of shots.
Speaker 9: He had Xavier Worthy down the sideline, kind of missed
Speaker 9: him toward the sideline out of bounds, and then Worthy
Speaker 9: got up slowly after that. So just one of those
Speaker 9: challenging games, and I think familiarity had a lot to
Speaker 9: do with it. Dead had a good game plan and
Speaker 9: they were able to execute. The only downside for them
Speaker 9: is that they came out as the loser.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's listen to Sean Payton reacting to the loss.
Speaker 10: It felt like we all played him, but we didn't finish,
Speaker 10: and we had an opportunity to Right at the end,
Speaker 10: we kind of controlled the.
Speaker 8: Ball and.
Speaker 10: We got to be able to finish that one'll we'll
Speaker 10: take a while.
Speaker 1: It'll sting, Yeah, it will, because they're at five and
Speaker 1: five and just the way their schedule sets up, that
Speaker 1: could have given them some cushion where they're like just
Speaker 1: solidly in for a while. Now they have Atlanta next
Speaker 1: week that's kind of a coin flip game. But then
Speaker 1: they have some easier games Raiders, Browns by weekend, then
Speaker 1: the Colts, and then they at Chargers at Bengals Chiefs.
Speaker 1: So the Broncos are going to be right in the
Speaker 1: thick of this. This would have given them a little
Speaker 1: bit of breathing room before some of those tougher games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and to make things worse, as as you
Speaker 4: guys pointed out that this is a this is a
Speaker 4: team that they're they're really familiar with, they knew that
Speaker 4: they had this opportunity. Patrick Mahomes got pressured on twenty
Speaker 4: of his dropbacks, which is the most pressure rate wise
Speaker 4: since that Broncos game the two referenced wow last season.
Speaker 1: I gotta say he doesn't allow that much pressure because
Speaker 1: pressure can be a quarterback start stats sometimes and usually
Speaker 1: he just avoids it gets rid of it.
Speaker 4: But even with the way that MNGS is generating pressures,
Speaker 4: and we talk about it's kind of a proximity alert,
Speaker 4: and it just shows that Vance is able to get
Speaker 4: bodies around Patrick Mahomes where other teams don't necessarily get that.
Speaker 4: Maybe they don't feel comfortable doing it, but the Denver
Speaker 4: Broncos have the personnel and they have the game plan
Speaker 4: to be able to do this.
Speaker 5: It's just you gotta you gotta protect me.
Speaker 2: And Broncos fans like they want everyone to just like.
Speaker 1: Admit, like just give bo Nicks the credit, like he's
Speaker 1: got as many touchdown any rookie. But it's like Bonnicks
Speaker 1: is getting better. I think it's the most important thing
Speaker 1: about this Broncos season is that bo Nicks has had
Speaker 1: a steady incline. I'm not saying he's like gonna be
Speaker 1: a superstar, like we don't know where it goes, but
Speaker 1: it's been obvious steady progress to being a capable starter.
Speaker 1: Before we go, I want to give a little love
Speaker 1: again to our friend Kevin Harlan and then to Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey because he doesn't get enough love.
Speaker 2: He set a record today.
Speaker 5: Gray the tight end.
Speaker 8: Mahomes to the touchdowns till Tom chis glitting Tex Dolly say.
Speaker 5: Some mahomes that we'll give you something to sing.
Speaker 1: About, perfectly timed with the shot of Taylor Swift. No
Speaker 1: one's doing it better than Kevin Hart, no one's doing
Speaker 1: it better than Mahomes and Kelsey. What a big play
Speaker 1: that was down fourteen to three on fourth down, Kelsey
Speaker 1: somehow gets a free release. His numbers have been awesome,
Speaker 1: especially since Hopkins showed up eight for sixty four in
Speaker 1: a touchdown for Kelsey.
Speaker 2: So they win. What about the team that they defeated
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl last season to Tampa to win
Speaker 2: the game?
Speaker 11: The North up rights and if fire a cannon shot
Speaker 11: right at the Pirates ship and win the game, Chaber
Speaker 11: Pepper will snap to Mitch Wishnowski number four.
Speaker 2: We'll try to make it here.
Speaker 11: Good snap, Jake has it away, Jake has the distance,
Speaker 11: and Jake Moody.
Speaker 8: Is good money.
Speaker 11: Wow, somehow someway the Niners winning Champa beee.
Speaker 1: That was Greg Papa on k nb R. Yes, a
Speaker 1: game that changed in so many different directions. I don't
Speaker 1: even want to talk about it. I just want to
Speaker 1: give it to the man who was locked in because
Speaker 1: I feel like so much happened in this game that
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened in this game, Nick took
Speaker 1: where do you want to start?
Speaker 3: It started with Rock Party. Everybody can talk about Christian
Speaker 3: McCaffrey's back.
Speaker 9: That's gonna change the offense, and he finished with over
Speaker 9: one hundred yards from scrimmage, which is great, right, But
Speaker 9: what really propelled them to victory was brock Perty's.
Speaker 3: Ability to overcome adversity.
Speaker 9: He finished twenty five or thirty six or three fifty
Speaker 9: three and two touchdowns. A lot of these drives stalled.
Speaker 9: A lot of these drives stalled and ended in Jake
Speaker 9: Moody missing field goals. He missed three of his six
Speaker 9: attempts today. Like he got to the point where I
Speaker 9: was like, are they gonna leave him on the tarmac
Speaker 9: when they go back to Tampa Airport and fly home?
Speaker 3: Because it was that ugly. I thought.
Speaker 9: He cost them a number of points obviously, and put
Speaker 9: them in a position where they could potentially lose the game.
Speaker 3: But when he gets.
Speaker 9: Down to the final seconds, he was able to squeeze
Speaker 9: one inside the upright and get that money. Moody call
Speaker 9: if they don't get there without party playing the way
Speaker 9: he did today, And he wasn't perfect.
Speaker 3: He put some.
Speaker 9: Balls on the wrong shoulders, guys and everything else, but
Speaker 9: he consistently moved this ball down the field. For the
Speaker 9: forty nine ers, they nearly double the Buccaneers in total
Speaker 9: yards four thirteen to two fifteen, and that's only with
Speaker 9: a three minute difference in time of possession. That's how
Speaker 9: efficient their offense was. They kept getting down there, they
Speaker 9: just couldn't finish drives. He made one spectacular play rolling
Speaker 9: out on the left and he has basically nowhere to
Speaker 9: go and Kittle hit scramble. Drill goes to the back
Speaker 9: corner of the end zone and pretty puts one perfectly on him.
Speaker 9: He makes a tot tapping grab in the end zone
Speaker 9: for a touchdown in a back and forth affair that
Speaker 9: required a full sixty minutes of effort from both teams,
Speaker 9: and the Niners were on the ropes. The Buccaneers led
Speaker 9: an incredible drive where Baker converts a fourth down while
Speaker 9: he's got a stiff arm holding out Nick Bosa off
Speaker 9: of him as he just lets one go out of desperation.
Speaker 3: They convert.
Speaker 9: They get down to the seven, and then they get
Speaker 9: stopped and they have to settle for three, which opens
Speaker 9: the door for them to get back down the field
Speaker 9: and kick the game winning field goal, Jake Moody getting
Speaker 9: it done there. So I think it's a win that's
Speaker 9: typical of the Niners this season. Nothing is easy for
Speaker 9: this team, at least when it comes to final score.
Speaker 9: Even when they win games like against Dallas, you know,
Speaker 9: they had to explode for points and then it got
Speaker 9: close Laid a few weeks ago, they lost that game
Speaker 9: to Arizona. There at one point, Debo is getting in
Speaker 9: an argument with the kicking unit on the sideline that
Speaker 9: gets physical for a second. Like the vibes are not good,
Speaker 9: but it was really good for them to get this
Speaker 9: win and get over five hundred on a very trying
Speaker 9: day in Tampa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, you can you can
Speaker 1: see the picture of Deebo swiping at the long snapper
Speaker 1: Taber Pepper and Jake Moody. And that's crazy because like
Speaker 1: he Debo straight up pushes the long snapper in the neck,
Speaker 1: who then follows after him. Deebo talked about it afterwards
Speaker 1: and played it down, said like we'll talk with you
Speaker 1: know afterwards. Jake knows it's not serious, and I think
Speaker 1: the long snapper was kind of like, leave my guy alone.
Speaker 1: Whatever you guys talking about. Debo said, it wasn't a
Speaker 1: big deal. I you know, I lost my head a
Speaker 1: little bit, but uh, you can't be swinging at your
Speaker 1: long snapper in the neck now during the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Debo says, it's probably a big deal. Not a
Speaker 4: big deal because of the player was directed at. You know,
Speaker 4: we gotta go look it up on the roster to
Speaker 4: see who the forty nine ers a long snapper is.
Speaker 4: Is not thinking too much about other than Taper Pepper.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tamer Pepper.
Speaker 4: He's got a fun name to say, and perhaps if
Speaker 4: things go great for him, we'll never say it again
Speaker 4: because that's the only time shout out to Trey Dunk.
Speaker 4: And we think about long snappers, especially with the San
Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers. But looking over, it's hard to
Speaker 4: go away from this game thinking anything other than because
Speaker 4: Baker mayfield stat line eighteen to twenty nine hundred and
Speaker 4: sixteen yards and a touchdown. Nothing really to sneeze it.
Speaker 4: But this Tampa Bay Buccaneers team is hurt. They were down,
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, were coming off the by They
Speaker 4: just lost an overtime game in the rain to Kansas City,
Speaker 4: and as Shuk said, they did not go away. It
Speaker 4: wasn't just that play. Baker had another incredible play avoiding
Speaker 4: a sack later on that drive, and perhaps they got rescued.
Speaker 4: The forty nine ers did by the motivation of Deebo
Speaker 4: Samuel because Jake d didn't miss that after that incident.
Speaker 1: There, Yeah, he actually even said, like, you know, he
Speaker 1: was trying to give Moody all the credit, but he
Speaker 1: kind of made it sound like maybe he motivated Moody
Speaker 1: and they were like, are you taking a little credit
Speaker 1: for it? He was like, no, no, they deserve all
Speaker 1: the credit, you know, for making that kick. Afterwards, like
Speaker 1: this could be a rare case where if Jake Moody
Speaker 1: wasn't drafted, I think he might get cut after hitting
Speaker 1: a game winning field goal. But because they drafted him,
Speaker 1: they've really stuck with him for so long that maybe
Speaker 1: they'll bring in another kicker. Who knows. I hear you
Speaker 1: on what you're saying about the Buccaneers. They're a really
Speaker 1: fascinating team at four and six. This game reminds me,
Speaker 1: just box score wise, a lot of the Lions game,
Speaker 1: which they managed to win despite getting doubled up in
Speaker 1: total yardage. And they've had a really hard schedule and
Speaker 1: they keep just losing these heartbreakers often to you know,
Speaker 1: really good teams. Here's their schedule after the bye, and
Speaker 1: this is why they're still relevant At four and six Giants, Panthers, Raiders, Chargers,
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. Cowboys, Panthers, Saints. Those are six
Speaker 1: of the very worst teams in the NFL out of
Speaker 1: seven games coming up. So they have been consistently playing
Speaker 1: above their skis. And they get Mike Evans back, I
Speaker 1: think they have a chance. But Nick, I want you
Speaker 1: to tell me, well, first of all, let's listen to
Speaker 1: the call of that Baker play, because that was one
Speaker 1: of the best plays I think I saw all year.
Speaker 10: Fifty percent of the time.
Speaker 5: Can we get seven yards Baker, bay Field get into.
Speaker 10: The forty four Candlin good snap dropping pressure coming out
Speaker 10: of the pocket, Bayfield with a step far, looks up field,
Speaker 10: looks up Field, throws them all hits caught first out
Speaker 10: at the forty five yard line. First not White pull
Speaker 10: a defender hanging on to my field and he pulls
Speaker 10: a pass up for grabs a gain of eight on
Speaker 10: third and fourth and seven.
Speaker 12: And he had Bos holding him by one arm, and
Speaker 12: he's running and running extending the play.
Speaker 1: Truly amazing the game on the line fourth and seven.
Speaker 2: Gotta have it that.
Speaker 1: Truly the game is over if he doesn't pick it up,
Speaker 1: He's hanging all over him. Tom Brady says, that's one
Speaker 1: of the best players I've ever seen. So I want
Speaker 1: you to explain to me, Shook, How how did they
Speaker 1: only end up with one hundred and five yards net
Speaker 1: passing three point four yards per play and Baker's pulling
Speaker 1: off magic like that.
Speaker 9: Well, because they had three drives of double digit plays
Speaker 9: the entire game. You went punt, punt, field goal, punt, punt, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 9: That's when the game got really interesting because it became
Speaker 9: a back and forth, a fairy at that point, three
Speaker 9: and out, three and out field goal, and that triflely
Speaker 9: covered nineteen yards because thirty nine came in penalty for
Speaker 9: a total of fifty eight. So it was it was
Speaker 9: one of those games where, like the Niners were in
Speaker 9: a bit of a meltdown on that drive, all the
Speaker 9: momentum is going in the buccaneers favor. Kevin Berkhart and
Speaker 9: Tom Brady are completely lost in the sauce of the moment,
Speaker 9: like losing their minds over the fourth down conversion, the
Speaker 9: fact that they're even in a position to potentially win
Speaker 9: the game, and then they run it twice on first
Speaker 9: and goal from the seven, go absolutely nowhere, kind of
Speaker 9: box themselves in and has to settle for a field goal.
Speaker 9: So that's kind of what I mean. It was like
Speaker 9: offense in small spurts. The reliance on Kate Otten was
Speaker 9: not there like it was before. He finishes with five
Speaker 9: for thirty five. Like it was very much a checkdown
Speaker 9: to Rashad White. He had a really great screen pass
Speaker 9: for a touchdown, perfectly executed. They got Fred Warner out
Speaker 9: there and then sealed off and White made a perfect
Speaker 9: kind of dance move through the traffic into the end zone.
Speaker 9: But like the highlights in this game were it like
Speaker 9: there was no like sustained drives. Otherwise it was just
Speaker 9: like scoring drive and three and out three and out
Speaker 9: through and out scoring drive. So you could watch the
Speaker 9: highlight package, you basically get the whole story of this game,
Speaker 9: at least from the Buccaneers perspective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Christian McCaffrey gets over one hundred yards
Speaker 1: from scrimage, but only three yards per carry on the
Speaker 1: ground against a bad run defense. There were a couple
Speaker 1: cuts in this game where I just thought, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: like give it a couple of weeks I want to
Speaker 1: watch I want to watch it a little closer, more personally,
Speaker 1: but maybe not quite the CMC were used to.
Speaker 3: He didn't.
Speaker 9: He didn't quite have the explosiveness that you expect from
Speaker 9: him as a runner. But I thought the best play
Speaker 9: that he made was he ran the wheel right out
Speaker 9: of the backfield, did a little bit of a stutter
Speaker 9: step against the defensive back, and Purty laid it out
Speaker 9: there perfectly for him to catch and run and it
Speaker 9: was a big completion in the time in that game.
Speaker 9: That was probably his best contribution, and you know, a
Speaker 9: little bit of a quiet contribution, Like you know, he
Speaker 9: breaks one hundred yards, but he wasn't the star of
Speaker 9: the show. What else can we expect from somebody who's
Speaker 9: spent you know, all the season up until this week
Speaker 9: trying to get back and get healthy with a muscle
Speaker 9: injury that you know tends to affect your explosiveness.
Speaker 3: This is pretty much what we should expect.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Piercell is a real thing. A forty six yard
Speaker 1: touchdown in this game goes four for seventy three. Juan
Speaker 1: Jennings is back healthy. That really helps them. He's a
Speaker 1: reliable receiver in a way that Debo is just a
Speaker 1: different category and he comes back with ninety three yards.
Speaker 1: So all their big receivers had a thirty plus yard catch,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. Jennings, Pierce, All, McCaffrey, Deebo and kitt All.
Speaker 1: The numbers looked like the Kyle Shanahan with CMC numbers
Speaker 1: that you're used to seeing, and this was a massive
Speaker 1: win for them to get to five and four. I'm
Speaker 1: glad this NFC West Race is going to be fun.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you don't dig dirt on this Bronco,
Speaker 1: this Bucks team just yet. We're just getting started on
Speaker 1: NFL Daily. Going to take a quick break and be
Speaker 1: back to see how Eric's bills.
Speaker 2: I mean, you kind of know how he did. He's
Speaker 2: in a good mood, which.
Speaker 13: Tight ends sid Taylor to the right of Flacco in
Speaker 13: the shotgun on first and ten from the Buffalo forty five.
Speaker 13: Another fake handlef back to pass pressure coming and looking
Speaker 13: for Pierce.
Speaker 1: And it's picked off by Taylor Rap.
Speaker 14: It was tipped by Alec Pierce and Rap was all
Speaker 14: over it.
Speaker 2: It's another takeaway for Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Twenty three to thirteen was the score when Taylor Rap
Speaker 1: made that interception. The Bills finish off the Colts in
Speaker 1: a thirty to twenty victory that probably wasn't even as
Speaker 1: close as.
Speaker 2: The score indicated. Patrick sometimes we play touchdowns.
Speaker 1: For this highlight, we played a turnover because it it
Speaker 1: just felt like that was the story of the game.
Speaker 5: It was the story of the game for both teams.
Speaker 5: The turnover play game.
Speaker 4: There were five interceptions, but Josh Allen makes plays with
Speaker 4: his legs six point three yards per carry, enough for
Speaker 4: fifty yards.
Speaker 5: As well as a rush touchdown.
Speaker 4: The defense picking off Joe Flacco three times once where
Speaker 4: it's tough to rank them in terms of decisions from
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco because that last one Alec Pierce, fully extended
Speaker 4: at six feet three inches tall with a seventy eight
Speaker 4: and a half inch bakes fan that goes off his fingertips,
Speaker 4: So I'm not putting that one on Alec Pierce. The
Speaker 4: first one was a pick six on the opening drive
Speaker 4: from Tarron Johnson, but that pick against where it goes
Speaker 4: off of Alec Pearce's hands kind of seals the deal,
Speaker 4: and it kind of wastes a very solid performance from
Speaker 4: Gus Bradley's defense. I had been maligning this season Josh
Speaker 4: Allen hadn't thrown a single interception against zone coverage all season.
Speaker 5: He gets got twice today, won by E. J. Speed.
Speaker 4: The Colts playing a ton of zwe but Josh Allen
Speaker 4: wasn't good in the snicks, snicks and snaps. Excuse me
Speaker 4: of man that they played with no key On Coleman
Speaker 4: Noah Mauri Cooper both out with risk injuries. The Colts
Speaker 4: run game played well seventy eight yards over expected for
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor twenty one carries one hundred and fourteen yards,
Speaker 4: but not enough to overcome these Flacco ironts. There was
Speaker 4: also a Greg Russo stripsacked that Damar Hamlin recovered for
Speaker 4: the Bills, a workman like road win in the AFC
Speaker 4: for both.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid also left this game with an injury. I
Speaker 1: think it came back in and out. He said he
Speaker 1: just didn't feel good enough to protect himself out there,
Speaker 1: so we'll see if he's available. So any wins you
Speaker 1: can get when you're missing three of your biggest weapons,
Speaker 1: you know with it shows you the depth that they
Speaker 1: can still get production out of Khalilshakire and James Cook
Speaker 1: in the running game. But Yeah, their defense. It's why
Speaker 1: the Bills are so good. They can win all sorts
Speaker 1: of ways. It's crazy that there was a sequence, a
Speaker 1: six play sequence in this game where Joe Flacco was
Speaker 1: strip sacked and then threw a pass that should have
Speaker 1: been a pick six, and then a couple snaps later
Speaker 1: had a fourth and two where he just couldn't get
Speaker 1: rid of the ball and got sacked. So whatever you
Speaker 1: were going for with Joe Flacco, it's turned out even worse.
Speaker 1: And you could have possibly imagined because you've cranked up
Speaker 1: the negative plays to one thousand, but you actually haven't
Speaker 1: gotten many of the big plays.
Speaker 5: Suck.
Speaker 9: Yeah, for those watching on YouTube, you saw a look
Speaker 9: on Joe Flacco's face as soon as that ball was
Speaker 9: picked off. I think that explains the state of the
Speaker 9: Colts offense right now and especially in the last two weeks,
Speaker 9: which is, Hey, we're gonna make the change to Joe
Speaker 9: Flacco for the rest of the year because he gives
Speaker 9: us the best chance to win. And since then he's
Speaker 9: done nothing but turn the ball over fairly consistently. He
Speaker 9: had two touchdown passes today but three interceptions. They had
Speaker 9: four total turnovers. You lose the turnover battle, you're gonna
Speaker 9: lose the games, especially against teams like the Buffalo Bill's
Speaker 9: success rate below forty percent for this offense. They're searching
Speaker 9: for answers and they lose a game in which Taylor
Speaker 9: goes twenty one for one to fourteen. Like, at this point,
Speaker 9: it makes you question the whole decision. And I hate
Speaker 9: to do it because they've already committed to it. But
Speaker 9: did you act a little too quickly there, thinking like
Speaker 9: we gotta win games. Now we're gonna go to Joe
Speaker 9: flaccoh you gotta remember this guy is near forty years old.
Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't the smartest decision right now.
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: And you wonder now what the long term aspirations and
Speaker 4: how you try to game out the rest of the
Speaker 4: season with any particular decision that they could make at quarterback.
Speaker 4: But no, we have the benefit the hindsight. Some of
Speaker 4: us thought after immediately when the decision was made that
Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily do anything for the Colts.
Speaker 1: Well, Shane Steiken hit the reporters with something that an
Speaker 1: adult says to their child often, which he said, until
Speaker 1: I say otherwise, Joe is the starter, So like just
Speaker 1: stop until I say otherwise, Like, just stop asking me.
Speaker 1: There was another time he said, as of now, there
Speaker 1: are there's different reporting in Indianapolis about like whose decision
Speaker 1: is this? I think the front office would have wanted
Speaker 1: Richardson the whole time, Like the group that drafted. Ownership
Speaker 1: is a different matter. There's no way to know what
Speaker 1: ownership wants. There's no way to know for sure what
Speaker 1: Shane Stiken wants until I say otherwise. Joe is the
Speaker 1: starter is fascinating because they're right in mix in the
Speaker 1: AFC at four and six. The AFC is different than
Speaker 1: the NFC in terms of that last spot. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be wide open between let's just say that the Bengals,
Speaker 1: the Broncos, and the Colts. We got a ways to go,
Speaker 1: but right now there's at least one spot for those
Speaker 1: three teams, and the Colts are are one loss back
Speaker 1: and they're gonna feel like they're in it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: on a day where you're able to pick off Josh
Speaker 1: Allen a couple of times, you want to have a
Speaker 1: better final result than that.
Speaker 9: If I'm assigning competence points to these teams, like you
Speaker 9: just mentioned three teams right there, right the Bengals, the Broncos,
Speaker 9: and the Colts. The Colts are a distant third as
Speaker 9: they stand right now. Not that flac All isn't gonna
Speaker 9: be able to rediscover that magic, but whatever they're doing
Speaker 9: right now is not working.
Speaker 3: His accuracy is a little bit off. Some of it
Speaker 3: might have to do with pressure. I know it did
Speaker 3: the week prior.
Speaker 9: But like, I feel better even about Bonnicks in the
Speaker 9: way that they run that offense and get him out
Speaker 9: on the perimeter, and about the Bengals, Joe Burrow having
Speaker 9: a fantastic year and just trying to keep that team
Speaker 9: afloat by himself that I do about this team right now.
Speaker 1: So they're filling up the fantasy stat sheet, though, Pierce
Speaker 1: gits like the yards who dropped a touch To be fair,
Speaker 1: Josh downs dropped the potential touchdown early.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one that was still a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah eighty Mitchell goes for seventy one yards. So yeah,
Speaker 1: let's listen to the Josh Allen rushing touchdown which came
Speaker 1: in the second quarter. At this point, the Colts were
Speaker 1: leading late into the second quarter.
Speaker 5: Allan in the shotgun, here's the snaff and off.
Speaker 2: No, it's a keeper for Allen through.
Speaker 14: The left side ten five and he's into the end
Speaker 14: zone for the touchdown.
Speaker 2: The Beast has been released.
Speaker 14: At thirteen yard touchdown run by Allen.
Speaker 1: And yes, that was the most effective play in football
Speaker 1: that Josh I was waiting for it.
Speaker 2: Now, now you misquoted me once.
Speaker 1: You said that's like the bet, like the he's the
Speaker 1: best runner in football, you said, I said once, it's
Speaker 1: not that like when he runs, it's the most effective
Speaker 1: playing football, like every every time, it's like on a
Speaker 1: per play basis, it's a first down, it's a touchdown.
Speaker 1: They get through this game when my MATC Collins is
Speaker 1: your wide receiver one and you get a win on
Speaker 1: the road, Like, that's a good organization. Eight and two
Speaker 1: headed into this Chiefs showdown. I'm excited for it. Let's
Speaker 1: go to another game that Patrick and I were very
Speaker 1: excited to watch.
Speaker 2: In the newsroom.
Speaker 1: We tried to say, you know, the late window wasn't
Speaker 1: that exciting, but this one was exciting. It's time for
Speaker 1: the Sunday Drive, presented by the all new hybrid Toyota Camry.
Speaker 2: To the desert.
Speaker 12: Snap to Murray, drop straight back, a fake right corner,
Speaker 12: the ends on Harrison Cole want.
Speaker 2: A catch with one hand for a touchdown.
Speaker 12: Horbyn Harrison Junior holds it in with his right arm.
Speaker 12: Just a gorgeous drop in the bucket by Murray.
Speaker 8: Spin the pig, Kylo Spinens drop it. Sut dimes these
Speaker 8: drops into the buckets right over the shoulder. Marvin Harrison
Speaker 8: Junior spin that pig.
Speaker 1: Cool of Kyler, Yes, the second Wolfley the best brother
Speaker 1: combo in the league.
Speaker 2: Ron and Craig.
Speaker 1: It's also Dave passion involved their KMVP. Marvin Harrison catching
Speaker 1: that pig. Kyler spun that pig two incompletions on a
Speaker 1: day where he scored three touchdowns. Two of those around
Speaker 1: the ground went through the air two hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: six yards. It is a beautiful thing when this Cardinals
Speaker 1: offense is humming Drew Petsig Patrick he was calling up
Speaker 1: those plays.
Speaker 5: They were all working, gosh, every single one of them.
Speaker 4: And I will leave the pig references to Wolfley because
Speaker 4: I enjoyed doing this podcast with you guys.
Speaker 5: The Jets could do nothing.
Speaker 4: Nothing with Drew Petson's play caller and Kyler's execution as well,
Speaker 4: mainly simplified the fact that they started this game. The
Speaker 4: Cardinals did touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, They only had one punt
Speaker 4: on the day, and Kyler Murray had a run of
Speaker 4: seventeen consecutive completions, breaking a Cardinals we record. They gained
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy nine of their two hundred and
Speaker 4: sixty six receiving yards after the catch, and garbage time
Speaker 4: came early, much like us putting fraud Watch on the
Speaker 4: Jets this season. Defensively, the Cardinals held Aaron Rodgers to
Speaker 4: two and a half air yards per completion. I wanted
Speaker 4: to shout out Jesse Luketta and Xavier Thomas, who both
Speaker 4: came up with sacks. Buddha Baker had one as well,
Speaker 4: But I'm not reference again specifically because I'm affectionately calling
Speaker 4: this Cardinals defense the search bar, because every single time
Speaker 4: one of these dudes makes a play, I have to
Speaker 4: go into Google frantically during Game Day Live because I'm like,
Speaker 4: who was that Cardinals defender making a play?
Speaker 5: Those guys got sacks.
Speaker 4: One of seven under pressure was Aaron Rodgers for six
Speaker 4: yards on the day.
Speaker 5: Dominant performance by.
Speaker 1: The question, Yeah, another what is it? They're the space bar,
Speaker 1: the search bar, the search.
Speaker 5: Bit just that may go, hey, maybe yous being because
Speaker 5: Google's fell off.
Speaker 1: Res I did it as well. When when Rogers fumbled
Speaker 1: that ball right up in there, that was L. J. Collier,
Speaker 1: the big man who could have caught it and started running.
Speaker 1: They were all over the place. It is a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing when this offense is going like it's intoxicon Like
Speaker 1: it felt like Kyler ran a lot in this game.
Speaker 2: He only ran three times.
Speaker 1: It just was He's right there with Josh Allen as
Speaker 1: one of the most efficient runners in league. Whenever he runs,
Speaker 1: it's effective too for touchdowns. And just their players are awesome,
Speaker 1: which is you don't want to forget about like it's
Speaker 1: great play calling. But James Connor on that catch and
Speaker 1: run for forty four yards was awesome. The one hander
Speaker 1: by Marvin Harrison. Trey Benson is making some plays, and
Speaker 1: let's actually listen to another call of Trey McBride. He
Speaker 1: goes four for seventy one and just made one of
Speaker 1: the most athletic plays you'll see.
Speaker 12: A snaptain Murray's deep set looking over the middle, dumping
Speaker 12: it off short and it's caught by McBride, wrapped up,
Speaker 12: broke and tackled all and then he hurdles a defender
Speaker 12: at the forty forty five out of bounds at midfield.
Speaker 12: That was bronk As right there on a seventeen yard
Speaker 12: catch and run home.
Speaker 8: Oh my goodness. Trade McBride on the crossing round, put
Speaker 8: it on them, breaks the tackle of Sauce Gardner and
Speaker 8: then leaps.
Speaker 2: The next tackle.
Speaker 8: You can't control Trade McBride.
Speaker 1: Just more Wolfley, I just this whole show should be
Speaker 1: a Wolfly show. And yeah, Cardinals fans who have stuck
Speaker 1: through this, stuck with this team through a lot of
Speaker 1: bad times, are loving this four game winning streak.
Speaker 2: What a fun team. They're six and four.
Speaker 1: Not surprised that they won one of my picks on
Speaker 1: Game Devut, Yes we're rolling here, but surprised that it
Speaker 1: was this one sided that this Jets offense shook. Just
Speaker 1: there's just not much to talk about. They lose Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith at some point in this game, but it's just
Speaker 1: dinking and duncan. Even in garbage time, they weren't able
Speaker 1: to like push the ball down the field.
Speaker 9: Yeah, OLiS Maashana replaces Tyron Smith at left tackle.
Speaker 3: It's not good for them. It hasn't been good for them.
Speaker 3: For a while.
Speaker 9: Rogers is still throwing a good amount of his passes
Speaker 9: under two and a half seconds. It was basically even
Speaker 9: between under and over two and a half seconds this week.
Speaker 9: That didn't matter. I mean, they were fighting an uphill
Speaker 9: battle that you knew they weren't going to catch up.
Speaker 9: They had a pass to Devonte Adams the N zone
Speaker 9: that was broken up. Initially perceived as a drop, but
Speaker 9: you could see on replay that the defender got in there.
Speaker 9: The Cardinals defense is playing well enough to shut down
Speaker 9: opponents like the Jets, who are a short passing offense
Speaker 9: that likes to rely on Breese Hall out of the
Speaker 9: backfield a lot, or go to Garrett Wilson and DeVante
Speaker 9: Adams and if that's not working, they're basically going nowhere.
Speaker 9: And I hate to say it, but at three and seven,
Speaker 9: I mean, we're beyond fraud watch with it. It's a
Speaker 9: team that, like when they win last week, you're like,
Speaker 9: oh wow, I can't believe they actually finished that game strongly.
Speaker 9: That's less likely and less frequent than the opposite, which
Speaker 9: is what we got more of on Sundays.
Speaker 3: So it's a bummer.
Speaker 9: Because they already fired their coach and they're still going nowhere.
Speaker 9: It's going to be a dark winter for them. They
Speaker 9: might pull out a couple more wins because Rogers is there,
Speaker 9: but the whole this is why you go get Aaron
Speaker 9: Rodgers to make plays like this.
Speaker 3: It's gone, it's gone. Let's get rid of the wishes
Speaker 3: for the Jets. It's over.
Speaker 9: But on the flip side, the Cardinals, Trey Bentson, baby
Speaker 9: is we know when they run the ball well. When
Speaker 9: they run the ball well with James Connor, this whole
Speaker 9: offense opens up. Well, let's throw Trey Benson into the
Speaker 9: mix and now you got a three headed backfield of Connor,
Speaker 9: Amari de Mercado and Trey Bentson combining there to break
Speaker 9: one hundred yards on the ground in a runaway win.
Speaker 9: So look, man, they're six and four and they're the
Speaker 9: team that nobody's paying attention to, and you always say, yeah,
Speaker 9: butt with them. But they're fun to watch. They've been
Speaker 9: fun to watch. Kyler played great today, and look, hey.
Speaker 3: We're paying attention to them.
Speaker 2: We matter the most.
Speaker 9: That took we have to now we have we have been,
Speaker 9: we have has.
Speaker 1: To the NFL daily we over indexed on Cardinals content
Speaker 1: in late July and mid August, we were in on
Speaker 1: the Petzig bandwagon.
Speaker 2: So I'm enjoying this, Uh, I'm not.
Speaker 1: At some point in this game, I was not enjoying
Speaker 1: watching the Steeler I mean the Jets offense. Like I
Speaker 1: got Devanta Adams and Garrett Wilson on my fantasy team,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, can we get some garbage time yards?
Speaker 1: And like this is how it ends? They can't even
Speaker 1: get garbage time touchdowns.
Speaker 4: And at one point it was thirty one six. There
Speaker 4: was there was plenty of time left. I think it
Speaker 4: was six minutes to go thirty one six, and I
Speaker 4: was concerned because I have DeVante Adams shares fantasy wise.
Speaker 4: Perhaps there's too much information for everybody out there, but
Speaker 4: my concern was Aaron Rodgers was gonna get snatched from
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 5: He actually stayed in the game. They stayed in.
Speaker 4: To perhaps work on whatever these offensive issues are that
Speaker 4: they need to try to get it figured out. That
Speaker 4: maybe folks had hope with what could have been other
Speaker 4: than a Malakaw Corley fumble, a near thirty point performance
Speaker 4: against the Houston Texans on Halloween. Nothing to speak of today,
Speaker 4: just just absolutely nothing. I understand the Cardinals ran the
Speaker 4: ball well that they couldn't get the Cardinals off the field.
Speaker 5: They didn't have a ton of possessions.
Speaker 4: But Aaron Rodgers threw the ball thirty five times and
Speaker 4: got one hundred and fifty one yards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is below the Gabbard zone we used to call,
Speaker 1: which is the five to six in yards per attempt.
Speaker 1: So if you're under five, that's even below it. The
Speaker 1: opposite of a Josh Allen or Kyler Murray run right
Speaker 1: now is a target to DeVante Adams.
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, nikes Greg.
Speaker 1: But thirteen targets for thirty one yards and if you
Speaker 1: look at the numbers he's joining the Jets. It's one
Speaker 1: of the most inefficient plays in the league, is throwing
Speaker 1: the ball between those two. And the crazy thing is
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's miscommunications. It's just like they're
Speaker 1: they're not on the same page, which is supposed to
Speaker 1: be the whole deal of this happening. And yeah, that
Speaker 1: the this is how it ends. I am not going
Speaker 1: to forget this play. Fourth down near the goal line,
Speaker 1: just trying to finish out a garbage time drive.
Speaker 2: Rogers gets flushed out.
Speaker 1: He's sprinting right, he's not looking fast and he throws
Speaker 1: the ball kind of in the dirt behind Conklin and
Speaker 1: then he just starts barking at Conklin. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened on that play, but it's just like,
Speaker 1: this is sad man like, none of it, none of
Speaker 1: it is how you want it to look. And you
Speaker 1: start to think about the future of Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 1: New York, whether he'll be there next year, whether the
Speaker 1: Jets will be there three and seven.
Speaker 2: So they got to just keep trying to win.
Speaker 1: Everyone's pointed out they have an easy schedule, but everyone
Speaker 1: that plays the Jets says, oh, well, that's an easy
Speaker 1: team to play this week, so they're struggling for wins.
Speaker 1: That was the Sunday Drive person by the all new
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Speaker 1: Learn more at Toyota Camry dot com. And uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had to use the Sunday Drive there because we
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be taking a drive in New Orleans
Speaker 1: after the mess, the enjoyable mess that was New Orleans
Speaker 1: versus the Falcons.
Speaker 8: Third and twenty one stunt cousins to throw dust road
Speaker 8: complete the call, Pitts Pits takes it all the.
Speaker 7: Way down inside the forty five yard line.
Speaker 2: But here comes to the may Day is a oh
Speaker 2: if the clocket Webb clockett you can't it's down.
Speaker 5: We gotta be they're going for it. They can't clock it.
Speaker 5: Fourth down and the thirty nine complete.
Speaker 8: Ball game.
Speaker 5: The clock's gonna continues.
Speaker 7: Bad.
Speaker 5: It's ball games yet tackling in top ballgame.
Speaker 1: Come on by costUS mcallisters all over this w w
Speaker 1: L with the call from New Orleans yes to start
Speaker 1: that Harry sequence. The Falcons had the ball on third
Speaker 1: and long from their own thirty nine yard line with
Speaker 1: twenty eight seconds left in the game. You got a
Speaker 1: call two plays there, right, because you can't assume you're
Speaker 1: gonna get the first down on a third and twenty two.
Speaker 2: But they didn't have two plays called. In the huddle,
Speaker 2: they threw it over the middle and then Cousins comes
Speaker 2: up calls to play. It takes so long to get
Speaker 2: that off you don't even get out of it like this. Wow.
Speaker 1: The Falcons, in the most Falcons Saints rivalry game possible,
Speaker 1: find a way to lose a game that they absolutely
Speaker 1: will feel that they should have won based on the
Speaker 1: way they played the second half.
Speaker 2: The ending of this game had everything. This was a
Speaker 2: fitting end.
Speaker 1: It started with Darren Rizzy, the interim head coach of
Speaker 1: the Saints, kind of getting a little nervous a couple
Speaker 1: times with some fourth down calls, punting it to the
Speaker 1: Falcons when he had a fourth and short at midfield,
Speaker 1: but you know what, his defense bails him out. And
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, who despite not having a touchdown on this
Speaker 1: day I thought mostly played really well until getting frantic
Speaker 1: at the end, but throws absolutely killer interception to Honey
Speaker 1: Badger with a handful of minutes left in this game.
Speaker 1: Just threw it blind, panicked against pressure. Kind of the
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins moment that we haven't seen a lot of lately,
Speaker 1: but you used to see quite a bit. You think
Speaker 1: that the game is over there, the Saints just really
Speaker 1: need one first down to ice it, and they don't
Speaker 1: get conservative. They drop a perfect play that gets Alvin
Speaker 1: Kamara matched up against a linebacker. He dusts them by
Speaker 1: about fifteen yards. Derek Carr, who played well on the day,
Speaker 1: lays it out there perfectly and Kamara just blows it
Speaker 1: he just drops the easiest catch ever. He said it
Speaker 1: was the worst play he's ever made on on the field,
Speaker 1: like in his entire career, Like that was the most
Speaker 1: foul play I've ever made. And you think, oh man,
Speaker 1: they're gonna blow it, but Falcons end up blowing it
Speaker 1: right back.
Speaker 2: It was on a day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Coup missed three different field goals in this game,
Speaker 1: including one that was blocked, and Darren Rizzy get to
Speaker 1: win America.
Speaker 2: Be happy. I'm happy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, congratulations to Darren Rizzy.
Speaker 4: Congratulations to to all the Sants fans who wanted not
Speaker 4: that it was particularly Darren Rizzy, but the end of
Speaker 4: the Dennis Allen era was something that was wished upon
Speaker 4: by a lot of folks down in the fave before
Speaker 4: and they get this game.
Speaker 1: I think, including on the team, I mean, judging by
Speaker 1: some of the statements afterwards go ahead no clearly.
Speaker 5: And Michael Thomas watching from home as well.
Speaker 4: But this was the Marcus Valdez scantling game, yes, just
Speaker 4: maximum not game the Marqus Valdez scantling first half where somehow,
Speaker 4: out of nowhere, NBS just gets to the team. A
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, he has three catches for one
Speaker 4: hundred and nine yards and two touchdowns. One touchdown is
Speaker 4: a deep pass, It's like, okay, got beat by MVS.
Speaker 4: The second one was a sixty six yard bomb down
Speaker 4: the sideline where he gets out of bounds. And so
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, of course, typical MVS. He's only got three
Speaker 4: touchdowns shorter than ten yards in his entire career. Well,
Speaker 4: MVS doesn't help you here, No, Derek Carr goes back
Speaker 4: to MVS on second and goal for the touchdowns.
Speaker 5: Let's gone, and we never hear from him again.
Speaker 4: But again, this ultimately was just a nasty, nasty loss
Speaker 4: by the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2: Yes, who to you know?
Speaker 5: The Universe's point right.
Speaker 4: The Falcons have been the beneficiary of some nasty losses
Speaker 4: by other teams, like the one where Saquan drops the
Speaker 4: pass in prime time late. And then there's the Saints,
Speaker 4: the initial Saints game when the Saints were much better
Speaker 4: football team before they went on the seven game losing
Speaker 4: streak where we've seen, we've seen the Falcons now be
Speaker 4: on both sides of this thing.
Speaker 1: How about either Bucks game they've won, They've won on
Speaker 1: both sides of it.
Speaker 2: And yes, you said, did you say it? Was stinky,
Speaker 2: is nasty, nasty.
Speaker 1: We speaking of which, Darren Rizzy's toilet free game.
Speaker 2: That was nasty.
Speaker 15: You guys know, man, I'm a pretty open guy. So
Speaker 15: this is how my day started. I get down here
Speaker 15: to the stadium, get down our super down my goat
Speaker 15: in the head coaches locker room, which you know I've
Speaker 15: never used before, right, So here, I am early the
Speaker 15: more I go to the bathroom, and this is how
Speaker 15: my day started. I clogged the toilet and I'm like,
Speaker 15: this is gonna be a crappy day, pun intended.
Speaker 5: And so we listened.
Speaker 15: I'm like, Okay, this is how a really great start
Speaker 15: to today. Here we go and so yeah, I'm not
Speaker 15: really feeling like a head coach.
Speaker 2: He's still talking.
Speaker 15: So I'm like, really, this is really how we're gonna
Speaker 15: start my day.
Speaker 1: Yes, Darren Rizzy, this is what we want out of
Speaker 1: our interim.
Speaker 5: This is it, honesty.
Speaker 1: I think he went back and he watched old Jovit
Speaker 1: press conferences, not just Jovid with the Saints, Jovit with
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Saints. About one percent of our
Speaker 1: listenership knows who I'm talking about here. Well, one of
Speaker 1: the great interim press conference holders. We want Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: when he was with the Dolphins. We want Bassacia. They're
Speaker 1: getting the rizzy bump shook. This was a fun game.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, as soon as this game inut I
Speaker 9: was like, there it is the interim coach bump again.
Speaker 9: But my question is this, if you were watching on YouTube,
Speaker 9: you saw how red his face was.
Speaker 3: Was his face that read from that moment on the.
Speaker 9: Toilet, like did he just carry over the flush face
Speaker 9: all afternoon? Because that right there is the face of
Speaker 9: a man who was pushing one out earlier and then
Speaker 9: pushed his team to victory on the field on Sunday.
Speaker 2: I was worried about this man.
Speaker 1: When they blocked the coup field goal, which I believe
Speaker 1: was right before halftime, he was as intense in the
Speaker 1: next five seconds as any head coach has ever been
Speaker 1: on any sideline. He was so freaking fired up. Let's
Speaker 1: listen to him talk after the game.
Speaker 15: I yelled at Payton Turner with thirty seconds left because
Speaker 15: he's celebrating before the game's over. So I screamed at him,
Speaker 15: and so he's spraying water and I ripped his ass
Speaker 15: quite frankly. So when the game was over, he wanted
Speaker 15: to get me, so he came up to me and
Speaker 15: I wasn't looking at Jack in the back, and I
Speaker 15: got a history of stingers. So he Mike left arm
Speaker 15: like completely know, literally completely know. So I'm sure the
Speaker 15: video has me like this. I'm like, I'm looking at
Speaker 15: my thanks lot, Peyton. So I'm fine, I'm fine. I
Speaker 15: just uh, I got a little see five six going
Speaker 15: for years from the old sound like the old guy,
Speaker 15: but and I am that's what happened my whole literally
Speaker 15: gaming for lack.
Speaker 4: Of a better phrase, I'm sorry, thinker and a stinger
Speaker 4: on the same day for Darren Rizzy that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: We're gonna just over index on Rizzy clips the rest
Speaker 1: of uh the season and certainly tonight.
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: He brings up Peyton Turner to bring a real football
Speaker 1: point out that some of the players were talking after
Speaker 1: the game to Nick Underhill of New Orleans Football dot
Speaker 1: Com that they changed up the rush schemes, that they
Speaker 1: were doing all these games and twists and having all
Speaker 1: these different assignments, and instead their defensive coordinator, I think
Speaker 1: it was Joe Woods calling the plays just got them
Speaker 1: singled up. Just just attack one on one go win.
Speaker 1: Hey Cam Jordan, you're one of our best players ever.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you thirty plus snaps. Cam Jordan with
Speaker 1: a big time sack. They had more pressure in this game.
Speaker 1: That was the thing that was absolutely different in this
Speaker 1: game than every other, and Cam Jordan said it was
Speaker 1: validation of like what he thought of that they should
Speaker 1: be doing. Essentially, he had a big day. Peyton Turner
Speaker 1: had a big day. They were pushing the pocket. That's
Speaker 1: why I think Cousins played well was actually he was
Speaker 1: under a lot of quick pressure all day and mostly
Speaker 1: got the ball moving. And John Robinson was awesome in
Speaker 1: this game, one hundred and sixteen yards, a couple just
Speaker 1: magical plays.
Speaker 2: Tyler Owls year played well.
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts completely changed the complexion of this game by
Speaker 1: mossing Alante Taylor on a third and long. The very
Speaker 1: next play, Bijon Robinson goes for a long touchdown where
Speaker 1: he just shakes off two or three defenders. So it
Speaker 1: was a good football game. The Falcon Saints they always deliver.
Speaker 1: Both games this year came down to the wire. But yeah,
Speaker 1: six and four, this does feel like they didn't deserve
Speaker 1: to be seven and three type of team, and sometimes
Speaker 1: the schedule gods just pull you back.
Speaker 2: It's like the.
Speaker 1: Falcons were due, like they're not a seven and three team.
Speaker 1: Six and four I'll buy there are six and four
Speaker 1: type of team.
Speaker 5: Shook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair, I'll take that too.
Speaker 9: I Mean, it felt like when they won their last
Speaker 9: few games, like oh, they're getting hot. But there was
Speaker 9: like glimpses of all, right, well, there's a weakness or
Speaker 9: there's an issue, or they're not finishing that properly, or
Speaker 9: they're not paying attention to the details there. And then
Speaker 9: it all kind of comes to a head on a
Speaker 9: day in which you know, they put up enough yards
Speaker 9: to win a football game, like they definitely did that,
Speaker 9: and yet they come away with just seventeen points.
Speaker 3: They have multiple missfield goals. You leave points out on
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 9: I mean, you finished with four and sixty eight yards,
Speaker 9: but you only converted five fourteenth third Downs's that end
Speaker 9: of the story of the game right there.
Speaker 3: It's the little things.
Speaker 1: Look the first half of the game, the Saints had
Speaker 1: a great game plan. They moved the ball, they hit
Speaker 1: those shots. Derek Carr was very efficient. Those are dimes.
Speaker 1: Great job by Derek Carr. Second half of the game,
Speaker 1: it was all Falcons and it was somehow like the
Speaker 1: coach bump gods just letting them hold it on because
Speaker 1: the Falcons really dominated for the most part in the
Speaker 1: second half. Good win by the Saints.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: Fun game by the Saints and the Falcons. Let's go
Speaker 1: to another fun one. Unless you were a Bears fan.
Speaker 12: Stephenson a single bath Selhutter motions, why may with the
Speaker 12: Playfick and the.
Speaker 14: Pop receiver Polk if it's an easy and catch crotch
Speaker 14: down Patriots, Oh you have you have an adversity to
Speaker 14: hitch it your first two corners and Drake By settles
Speaker 14: down on his stride.
Speaker 8: That's a good job by him moving to the football team
Speaker 8: to get a touchdown before the first half.
Speaker 1: Fens Hey Jalen Polk made a play that was Bob
Speaker 1: Soci and Scott Zolak on wb Z. The Patriots defense
Speaker 1: closes out mora bun Bears team nineteen to three. Who
Speaker 1: nine sacks on the day for the Patriots defense. And
Speaker 1: that one out there is is for my dad who
Speaker 1: said he was listening to Scott Zolach and thought Zolac
Speaker 1: did a good job even tho he's a big homer.
Speaker 1: He was listening on the radio while raking those leaves
Speaker 1: because the Patriots, they don't deserve the television necessarily all
Speaker 1: three hours. But this was an old school Patriots win. Defense,
Speaker 1: timely offense and man just no pass protection for caleboy Yeah.
Speaker 4: And Drake May and the Patriots offense did enough to
Speaker 4: get the win. There didn't play perfectly avoided some some
Speaker 4: mistakes did have a couple, including an interception where he
Speaker 4: tried to fit a ball in the window smaller than
Speaker 4: the football itself, which is tough to do. But disaster
Speaker 4: looms for a Bears offense that was one of fourteen
Speaker 4: on third down, and you mentioned the non sacks. They
Speaker 4: lose fifty one yards and then a lot of that's
Speaker 4: due to the fact that oh Darnel Wright and Braxton Jones,
Speaker 4: both starting tackles, were out, as well as backups Karan
Speaker 4: Amigaje and Nate Davis. The only starting lineup that the Bears.
Speaker 4: The starting lineman that they had was the center Coleman Shelton,
Speaker 4: which eventually led to this Patriots pass.
Speaker 2: Rou Tevin Jenkins was in there and then got hurt
Speaker 2: during the game.
Speaker 5: It was brutal.
Speaker 4: They actually equaled the season long output of the team.
Speaker 4: We just talked about the Atlanta Falcons, who have nine
Speaker 4: sacks on the season. The Patriots got nine sacks today.
Speaker 4: Keon White generated six pressures and one sack on thirty
Speaker 4: five pass rush snaps. He got two pressures against double
Speaker 4: teams as well. Just a great performance that It's almost
Speaker 4: difficult to celebrate and praise this New England Patriots defensive
Speaker 4: performance because the Bears, while being heard, it just seemed
Speaker 4: like there was no plan on offense and everything they tried.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there watching begging them to go into the
Speaker 4: two minute drill early in the second half because the
Speaker 4: play calls from Shane Waldron were not working.
Speaker 1: No, the Patriots go six and out, three and out,
Speaker 1: three and out to start the second half, and you're
Speaker 1: just waiting for the Bears to do something and they
Speaker 1: just can barely pick up a first down. This is
Speaker 1: one of the worst offensive performances by any team all season.
Speaker 1: Eleven drives, only one went over twenty one yards. They
Speaker 1: averaged one point eight yards per pass play, which is
Speaker 1: just crazy. On thirty nine pass plays against the defense
Speaker 1: that only had thirteen sacks on the season coming into today.
Speaker 1: So let's just get the praise for the Patriots out
Speaker 1: of the way. I think may has been building every week.
Speaker 1: You see smart decisions except for the really dumb ones.
Speaker 1: So he's just one of those quarterbacks right now. But
Speaker 1: some really nice throws down the field and they take
Speaker 1: care of business. Brandon Schooler, their longtime special team, really
Speaker 1: gets in on the sack parade.
Speaker 2: That's fun.
Speaker 1: And these are the type of wins that I think
Speaker 1: are important for Drod Mayo to just start establishing some
Speaker 1: sort of identity and idea of what this team wants
Speaker 1: to be as they inevitably head to a top five,
Speaker 1: top six type of pick.
Speaker 2: So good job by them.
Speaker 1: But this Bears offense right now had put up what
Speaker 1: I thought was maybe the worst tape by any offense
Speaker 1: all season, in any game last year, all year against
Speaker 1: the Cardinals last week, and then they do it again.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Matt eb Refuse after the game, getting
Speaker 1: some pointed questions, how do you defend.
Speaker 5: Your work as head coach when it looks at this bad?
Speaker 16: Well, I would just say that I would just go
Speaker 16: back to we have the men in the room, and
Speaker 16: we have evidence on tape of doing it. You know,
Speaker 16: we've played some good commentary games in terms of offense,
Speaker 16: defense and kicking, and we've you know, score points, you know,
Speaker 16: a few games in a row, you know, and done
Speaker 16: a good job of that, you know. So we have
Speaker 16: to find the winning way and our winning formula to
Speaker 16: get that done.
Speaker 5: Oh that's rough.
Speaker 1: I think he when he said we've scored points a
Speaker 1: few games, I think I mean it's the streak where
Speaker 1: they were scoring a lot of points, because yeah, three
Speaker 1: points nothing to talk about. Let's listen to Kevin Bayard
Speaker 1: talking after the game. This is courtesy the Marquee Sports Network.
Speaker 5: Guys in this locker room still believe in this coaching set.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to go there any day. We got
Speaker 5: to play better and we gotta win. You know.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's just someone that doesn't want to answer
Speaker 1: that type of question, but on the heels of DJ
Speaker 1: Moore really not defending his coaching staff.
Speaker 2: You feel for Eberflus.
Speaker 1: When I watched some of his press conferences, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of tough questions in there. Nick, I actually think
Speaker 1: he's kind of built for this. Answering him well, like
Speaker 1: he's not built for it in terms of being able
Speaker 1: to figure out how to fix his team, which is
Speaker 1: ultimately the thing that matters. But I'm impressed with how
Speaker 1: he carries himself and handles that situation. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like they have any answers offensively of how to
Speaker 1: turn things around.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, with Kevin Byron's comments, ever since he
Speaker 9: was in Tennessee, he's always been known as a straight shooter,
Speaker 9: so I think he just knew to a non answer
Speaker 9: is the best way to handle that right now with
Speaker 9: so much of the season still left and things getting
Speaker 9: really bad.
Speaker 3: But Flus kind of teed me up.
Speaker 2: If he loves that coaches, you would defend the coaches, right.
Speaker 9: I feel like that he's not going to outright say
Speaker 9: that he hates them because there's still half of well
Speaker 9: about half of the season left to play. Flux teed
Speaker 9: me up though, because that's immediately what I thought was,
Speaker 9: this is a team that was ascending or at least
Speaker 9: building momentum. They put twenty four points in the Rams
Speaker 9: and win thirty six on the Panthers and a win
Speaker 9: thirty five on the Jaguars and a win But unlike
Speaker 9: you know, coaches like Kyle Shanahan and Andy Reid, who
Speaker 9: are good out of the bye week. The Bears have
Speaker 9: been miserable since the bye week. Fifteen points in a
Speaker 9: loss of Washington, nine points last week, three points today.
Speaker 9: There is no explanation for this other than pointing to
Speaker 9: your offensive staff and saying, what the hell is going
Speaker 9: on schematically right now? Yes, we can't protect our quarterback,
Speaker 9: but we can't do much of anything right now. DeAndre
Speaker 9: Swift coast for three point seven yards per carry. When
Speaker 9: you become one dimensional with a rookie quarterback behind an
Speaker 9: offensive line and they can't protect you, you're boxing yourself in.
Speaker 9: Even against a team like the Patriots who pinned their
Speaker 9: ears back and got after them. So if you look
Speaker 9: at their schedule going forward, like, where does it get
Speaker 9: any easier? You play Green Bay, Neck, Minnesota, the Detroit,
Speaker 9: San Francisco, it's awful. It's just gonna get worse and
Speaker 9: worse and worse. So now we're basically on a firing watch,
Speaker 9: I think for the people involved here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only remaining non division games are against the
Speaker 4: forty nine ers in the Seahawks, Like that's it. They've
Speaker 4: got three consecutive division games and it's just a murderer's
Speaker 4: row of teams that they have to go up, and
Speaker 4: four of those games are on the road as well,
Speaker 4: And you wonder, like you mentioned a watch for you know,
Speaker 4: Matt Eberflus's Bears career. It's just anybody that steps in there,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a difficult ors Shane Waldron.
Speaker 1: Maybe they change out offensive coordinators. I thought this team
Speaker 1: was done for the season after last week, not like
Speaker 1: they wouldn't win any games, but I was like, this
Speaker 1: team is not making the playoffs. I haven't really believed
Speaker 1: in them all seasons, So maybe it's confirmation bias. Although
Speaker 1: that under eight and a half or nine and a half,
Speaker 1: whatever it was, that's hidden from that show way back then.
Speaker 2: But like they just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I am not nearly as worried about Caleb Williams as
Speaker 1: Bears fans seem to be. That's the only thing I
Speaker 1: would say to Bears fans out there. I've seen rookie
Speaker 1: quarterbacks really struggle and come out of it on the
Speaker 1: other side, and I actually don't think he's near that
Speaker 1: level even of struggle, like of the Jared Goffs, the
Speaker 1: Eli Mannings, the Drew breeses like different guys who have
Speaker 1: turned things around. He's really not at that level to me,
Speaker 1: and it is getting worse and he's not helping. But
Speaker 1: this thing just needs a restart. Amazingly, the Patriots have
Speaker 1: have surrounded their rookie quarterback with a better situation. I
Speaker 1: guess at least the vibes are better. Let's before we
Speaker 1: uh take a break, let's at least listen to Drake
Speaker 1: May after the game try to get the New England
Speaker 1: media uh to to appreciate their defensive performance. Drake May
Speaker 1: coming up to the podium after Christian.
Speaker 17: Phones down, phones down, clap it up to the defense,
Speaker 17: clap it up, top it up, somebody else, top up
Speaker 17: the appreciate here go.
Speaker 5: It's a foul for whoever classe.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was either a PR staffer or someone
Speaker 1: else that was not in the media, but really cracked
Speaker 1: me up that Drake days like clap it up for
Speaker 1: the defense, like he's he's in there asking questions to
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzales for for during their press conference, a good time.
Speaker 3: Everybody take a knee, Take a knee. Coach has got to.
Speaker 1: Talk enjoy, enjoy when why why you can Patriots get
Speaker 1: done there at three and seven, the Bears at four
Speaker 1: and five and sinking fast. Let's take a break and
Speaker 1: we'll be back with his call from one of the
Speaker 1: very best play by play man in the world.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's a tease, very good way too.
Speaker 6: They're gonna go for it to a four this season
Speaker 6: on fourth down, and they're gonna go for it from
Speaker 6: the shotgun and they're gonna go empty. Herbert rolling to
Speaker 6: the right, and.
Speaker 17: Here we go, Hibert into the episode touchdown Shugers four
Speaker 17: yards justin Herbert puts the team on his back and delivers.
Speaker 1: That was some QB power by Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: Gotta love it.
Speaker 1: Gotta love Matt money Smith and from kys R. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're leaning into Herbo's legs and I love it.
Speaker 2: You bring Greg Roman in.
Speaker 1: Let's see some Greg Roman fun like QB power on
Speaker 1: the goal line. Herbert also juked a defender in the
Speaker 1: open field later in the game that had Derwin James
Speaker 1: and all the defense just kind of going wild, like
Speaker 1: when you see your teammate just undress an opponent, how
Speaker 1: much you love that?
Speaker 2: And Chargers are having fun.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven to seventeen, they're six and three over the Titans,
Speaker 1: and yes, another take care of business game by the Chargers. Nick,
Speaker 1: I have a theory on what this Chargers team is
Speaker 1: and what it is is it's so Unchargers if they
Speaker 1: were a running back like they would be Kyron Williams,
Speaker 1: Like you block up four yards for them, they get
Speaker 1: four and a half or five, they get what's there.
Speaker 1: They do what they're supposed to do. They don't make
Speaker 1: mistakes in a league where teams are up and down.
Speaker 1: I kind of know what the Chargers are on a
Speaker 1: week to week basis, which is which is wild.
Speaker 9: You know that they're going to play a team like Tennessee,
Speaker 9: They're going to go down seven to three, and they're
Speaker 9: going to take care.
Speaker 3: Of business and cruise the victory. That's the first thing
Speaker 3: that you know.
Speaker 9: You also know that with a healthy Justin Herbert that
Speaker 9: the ceiling is much higher both through the air and
Speaker 9: as we saw on Sunday and that clip just there
Speaker 9: on the.
Speaker 3: Ground as well.
Speaker 9: Because Greg Roman's the one calling the place and guys,
Speaker 9: I want to go back to the cemetery because I
Speaker 9: want to describe and make it a little bit of
Speaker 9: an analogy here of how Justin Herbert looked on that play.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 9: Last week, I'm working from home and I see a buck,
Speaker 9: a young buck, stroll into the cemetery. I live in
Speaker 9: an urban neighborhood. The cemetery is fencing on all sides.
Speaker 9: There's a little gap next to my house, and I'm
Speaker 9: wondering how did he get in there? And about thirty
Speaker 9: seconds in, he realizes, oh my god, I can't get
Speaker 9: out of here, and starts darting around the cemetery.
Speaker 3: Four pointer, just running around, back and forth.
Speaker 9: That's how Justin Herbert looked on that running play, and
Speaker 9: that's how this offense can look. No matter who's running
Speaker 9: the football, they're darting around, they're finding the gaps. He
Speaker 9: eventually made out of the cemetery, just like Justin Herbert
Speaker 9: made it into the end up.
Speaker 3: They do the job that you expected to do.
Speaker 9: They have a physical defense and they find a way
Speaker 9: to make it work through the air. Whether it's Lad
Speaker 9: mccauckey or if it's Quinton Johnson, whoever it is, they
Speaker 9: are a team that's tough to beat because they take
Speaker 9: care of the details. And I'll say you what, as
Speaker 9: a purist, a football purist.
Speaker 3: Warms my heart that a team takes care of the details.
Speaker 5: They did and today executing Arty.
Speaker 2: We can't just move on off from his analogy. What
Speaker 2: do you rate?
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he was going to be able
Speaker 1: to stick that land. No he did there with the moose,
Speaker 1: or if he's just jamming in a great story a
Speaker 1: buck a moose, four point buck. I think he did it.
Speaker 1: I think he nailed it. A degree of difficulty was
Speaker 1: extremely high, nine point seven.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, it's it's it's it's up there in the
Speaker 5: ten range.
Speaker 2: Okay, now all we got to do.
Speaker 4: The folks are left wondering, you know how it got
Speaker 4: in there? Did it get out the same way it
Speaker 4: got in it? It's a very high trafficed cemetery. You know,
Speaker 4: people are dying to get in there. The buck was
Speaker 4: apparently as well. It's able to get out, So the
Speaker 4: buck goes one. It gets the cemetery by else having
Speaker 4: a little bit tougher time. But it was the start
Speaker 4: of this game, saw because Will Levis was back. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and the idea was when's Will Levis gonna implode? It
Speaker 4: just didn't happened. He hit Calvin Ridley for two touchdowns.
Speaker 4: One of them was late as we got closer in
Speaker 4: to garbage time. But the one, as Nick referenced, that
Speaker 4: seven to three lead, was a deep shot from Will
Speaker 4: Levis to Calvin Ridley, and they didn't have that. Taj
Speaker 4: Spears and Tony Pollard both old. Taji Spears was over
Speaker 4: six point seven six point. He actually did have six
Speaker 4: point seven yards per carry. Tony Pollard had almost five,
Speaker 4: and they weren't really able to get the ground game
Speaker 4: going because they were playing from behind. I guess the
Speaker 4: Chargers team that throughout this season where we've wondered are
Speaker 4: they going to be in that eighteen to twenty one
Speaker 4: point range?
Speaker 5: Get up to twenty seven points today.
Speaker 1: Right right, because they just squeeze you to death. They
Speaker 1: didn't get the ball because they just didn't have enough plays.
Speaker 1: They only had eight total drives on the day because
Speaker 1: the Chargers were so efficient with like us twelve play
Speaker 1: drive and eleven play drive, nine play drive, eight play drive,
Speaker 1: and they'll hit you with a couple big plays. Josh
Speaker 1: Palmer had a nice deep perception. Quinton Johnson found himself
Speaker 1: wide open once again somehow for a touchdown. Lad McConkie
Speaker 1: has somehow turned into a deep threat like he's had
Speaker 1: some days like this where he goes two for fifty two.
Speaker 1: It's like a thirty seven yarder, but another chunk play
Speaker 1: to Lad McConkie, and Herbert's just avoiding mistakes.
Speaker 2: I thought this was much better out of Will Levis.
Speaker 1: He spun it pretty well, but he probably overcorrected because
Speaker 1: he's been told so much to avoid making a mistake
Speaker 1: that he just held onto the ball forever a couple times.
Speaker 1: And he took seven sacks in this game, and sometimes
Speaker 1: it was quick pressure. Tully Plot two has played really
Speaker 1: well since thereby Joey Bosa was better in this game.
Speaker 1: They played really good team defense. Sometimes Levis just probably
Speaker 1: held the ball too long, but I don't kill him
Speaker 1: for that. I give the Chargers defense a lot of credit.
Speaker 1: They're very similar to me. Took to the Chiefs, good
Speaker 1: offensive line, a really great quarterback. You know, obviously Herbert's
Speaker 1: not Mahomes, but I think Herbert's playing that like a
Speaker 1: top seven quarterback level, a defense that's not going to
Speaker 1: give up much, and and they kind of just squeeze
Speaker 1: you to death. These two teams look kind of similar
Speaker 1: to me, even if they're not always the most explosive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at their margin of victory of
Speaker 3: the last few weeks.
Speaker 9: It's not really all that telling, but like twenty seven
Speaker 9: to ten over the Browns, twenty six to eight over
Speaker 9: the Saints, twenty seven to seventeen over the Titans. These
Speaker 9: are all teams that they should beat, and they're all
Speaker 9: beating them in similar fashion. The Browns it was blown
Speaker 9: coverages and they were taking advantage of it. This time
Speaker 9: they just squeeze you to death. I think it's a
Speaker 9: perfect compliment in that division to the Chiefs, and I'm
Speaker 9: very very much looking forward to their rematch, which isn't
Speaker 9: until December, because who wins in that battle of styles.
Speaker 9: You think that the Chiefs would, but the Chargers are
Speaker 9: gaining a lot of steam. My question on the other
Speaker 9: side of the ball here on the other side of
Speaker 9: the field, what has happened is Titans defense. That was
Speaker 9: their strength early in the season. I know they've had
Speaker 9: to deal with Mason Rudolf at their quarterback for you know,
Speaker 9: the last month basically because Levis has been.
Speaker 3: Out, but that was the strength and it just seems
Speaker 3: like it's not quite there.
Speaker 1: They were always one sided. They've had injuries in the secondary,
Speaker 1: but the lagarious Steed pickup has not work for them.
Speaker 1: They really have not been a hard team to pass
Speaker 1: on all year. They're very tough to run a guns
Speaker 1: and they have a good front, and that's just no
Speaker 1: way to win in twenty twenty four. And who knows
Speaker 1: that they're getting later into the season. They're stuck at
Speaker 1: at two wins and they blow a lead quickly. I
Speaker 1: have been enjoying Jim Harbaugh, and I have really been
Speaker 1: enjoying Jim Harbaugh enjoying Justin Herbert.
Speaker 18: I mean just I'm changing his name to Beast. He's
Speaker 18: a beast. Herbert, half man, half beast. He made the
Speaker 18: two biggest plays of the game, you know, the fourth
Speaker 18: down touchdown run that he made. I mean, I don't
Speaker 18: know how many people he blocked, you know, or who
Speaker 18: actually got a block and who didn't, but there's a
Speaker 18: lot of unblocked guys and he just went beast mood
Speaker 18: and got that ball in the end zone.
Speaker 1: There was like one unblocked guy. They did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job, but that is what makes Herbert specially. He
Speaker 1: makes that first guy miss and he did a great
Speaker 1: job with that. They're six and three. They are at
Speaker 1: the point in the season where I would be surprised
Speaker 1: and disappointed if they don't make the playoffs. I think
Speaker 1: they are gonna find a way to get in and
Speaker 1: they have a really fun Sunday Night game. Great job
Speaker 1: by the flex committee Bengals Chargers. Next Sunday Night, let's
Speaker 1: go to a team that was flexing too Sunday Night.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a snoozer a week ago. Vikings Colts.
Speaker 1: Did the Vikings give us more or less entertainment? In Jacksonville?
Speaker 7: First and ten from the Vikings forty three yard line,
Speaker 7: Mac Jones goes out of the shop, dun Travis et
Speaker 7: into his left. The Vikings blitz maxw Mac on a
Speaker 7: very deep drop.
Speaker 2: He's gonna throw it right.
Speaker 7: Nobody's there, to the exception of the Minnesota Viking who picked.
Speaker 14: Him off interception team fine them hend.
Speaker 7: The Minnesota Vikings are going to improve just seven and two.
Speaker 1: Vikings get to win twelve to seven. It wasn't quite
Speaker 1: over really at that point though. Either a little early
Speaker 1: on the call, but you can't blame Paul of K
Speaker 1: fan for his excitement. When you see a mac Jones
Speaker 1: pass just fluttering in the breeze and your guy gets it,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get fired up.
Speaker 2: What a bizarre game.
Speaker 5: That puts it nicely.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars were out gained four hundred and four to
Speaker 1: one forty three. They had forty three plays, the Vikings
Speaker 1: had eighty two. They had the ball for seventeen minutes,
Speaker 1: the Vikings had it for forty two. The Vikings managed
Speaker 1: to get twenty eight points on the board without twenty
Speaker 1: eight first downs on the board without a touchdown, and
Speaker 1: yet it came down to some Tom foolery, a mac
Speaker 1: Jones interception and then a Trayvon Walker penalty. Shook is
Speaker 1: what actually finally sealed the deal for Minnesota.
Speaker 9: Yeah, let's not overlook that celebration in honor of the
Speaker 9: breaker Raygun from the Olympics.
Speaker 3: So that was a great poll by cam Bine him
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 9: Now look, the only worst pass than any of Sam
Speaker 9: Darnold's three interceptions was the one that he threw that
Speaker 9: then inspired that celebration. If you're watching on YouTube, I mean,
Speaker 9: good job, Cam, that's pretty good. I don't know if
Speaker 9: he gets you in the Olympics, but that's pretty good.
Speaker 9: Sam Donald was rough today and that explains why they
Speaker 9: could not put any touchdowns on the board. He threw
Speaker 9: three interceptions. I suddenly found myself seeing Sam Donald in
Speaker 9: the Jets uniform or in a Panther's uniform for the
Speaker 9: first time in a Vikings uniform.
Speaker 3: This time it was rough.
Speaker 9: He had won that he should have had four picks,
Speaker 9: but it got called back because of illegal touching or
Speaker 9: illegal use of hands on the Jaguars, which by the way,
Speaker 9: that return was fumbled back to the Vikings.
Speaker 3: None of that mattered.
Speaker 9: Mac Jones completely ineffective. This offense completely ineffective. They lost
Speaker 9: Tank bigsby early to injury, Travis etn goes eleven for
Speaker 9: forty four.
Speaker 3: They just couldn't maintain possession at all.
Speaker 9: They very much missed Trevor Lawrence and in fact mac
Speaker 9: Jones didn't break a hundred passing yards until that final
Speaker 9: possession which ended in that disastrous throw that was picked
Speaker 9: off by cam Byden. It was an ugly football game.
Speaker 9: It was a football game that I thought the Vikings
Speaker 9: may not find a way to win.
Speaker 3: Despite pilot all these young because.
Speaker 9: Sam Donald was so locked on Justin Jefferson for so
Speaker 9: much this game before he accept Actually TJ. Hockinson and
Speaker 9: Josh Oliver are probably my best options, which he then
Speaker 9: used to get them into field goal range. Weird, weird
Speaker 9: day in Jacksonville for both teams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nine targets for Justin Jefferson. A couple of those
Speaker 4: were the ones that were picked off. One where the
Speaker 4: defenders fighting back through the ball that Justin Jefferson couldn't
Speaker 4: quite keep away from the defense. And it goes to
Speaker 4: the Jags who kind of wasted, not kind of absolutely
Speaker 4: wasted their best defensive performance of the year with Darnell
Speaker 4: Savage and Andre Cisco back there, the corners as well,
Speaker 4: dealing with Justin Jefferson, where the Vikings routinely were making mistakes,
Speaker 4: not just the three Darnold interceptions, but you know, just miscommunications,
Speaker 4: a couple of third downs that didn't quite go their way.
Speaker 4: Aaron Jones leaves the game on a cart is able
Speaker 4: to actually eventually come back in, but everything that could
Speaker 4: go wrong for the Vikings did, But the Jags just
Speaker 4: out jaggsing the Jags at this point where you had
Speaker 4: Mac Jones score on the quarterback sneak Travis etn down
Speaker 4: at the one on the played before that, and that
Speaker 4: was it. That was the highlight of the game for Jacksonville.
Speaker 4: Was a one yard quarterback sneak for Mac Jones. He
Speaker 4: did hit Gabe Davis on like a seventeen yarder to
Speaker 4: get down there. Yeah, but other than that, it was
Speaker 4: just absolutely nothing for the backup.
Speaker 1: Well, if you liked today's performance by Mac Jones, have
Speaker 1: I got a seven games coming up for you, because
Speaker 1: it sounds like Trevor Lawrence could be out for the season.
Speaker 1: Since we last taped, we didn't even know he was
Speaker 1: for sure out for this week, but Diana Wesini and
Speaker 1: Mike Silver the Athletic reported that they're looking at surgery
Speaker 1: that would knock him out for the season.
Speaker 2: They're at two and eight.
Speaker 1: We'll see that it's not official yet, and so we'll
Speaker 1: hold analysis on kind of what's next for them in
Speaker 1: that decision when we know for sure. I do think
Speaker 1: the Vikings have a bit of a Darnold problem and
Speaker 1: a bit of an Aaron Jones problem. Not that Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones isn't amazing, but just the difference of this offense
Speaker 1: when he's not on the field is so noticeable. He
Speaker 1: goes seven for seventeen for eighty eight today and has
Speaker 1: a couple of catches too, But when he was off
Speaker 1: the field and was Acres. Just it's not working as
Speaker 1: well and just little things are coming up. So just
Speaker 1: I'm really hoping that he can stay healthy and be
Speaker 1: the consistent back because they're at an interesting point in
Speaker 1: the season. Nick, They're seven and two, They're on this
Speaker 1: three game road trip, very rare to have three straight
Speaker 1: road games, and they're all very winnable Titans next Bears
Speaker 1: after that, and so I don't know how for real
Speaker 1: this Vikings team is. And yet, if they can just
Speaker 1: win these games against teams that are really struggling, and
Speaker 1: I think they can, they're gonna be ten and two
Speaker 1: or something, at the very worst nine to three. But man, Donald,
Speaker 1: this we've just seen like more and more of him
Speaker 1: making fritzing.
Speaker 2: Out type of decisions. And that's what I've blame.
Speaker 1: I've pushed back when I see people put Donald and
Speaker 1: Mayfield in the same category this season, I'm like, come on,
Speaker 1: I was like, Baker's proven a little more like Donald.
Speaker 1: This is more of what we've seen out of Arnold
Speaker 1: in his career. So I need to see more good
Speaker 1: to really believe that it's here for good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and this is coming from somebody who is admittedly
Speaker 9: critical on Baker. Mayfield has been the last few weeks
Speaker 9: that's you and you're you're right in that criticism as well.
Speaker 5: But he's proven himself.
Speaker 1: But Baker's like a better than average starting quarterback are
Speaker 1: at the very worst, is proven himself to be a
Speaker 1: solid starter.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm there with Darnold yet.
Speaker 9: Especially in a performance like today, because it's not like
Speaker 9: the Jaguars are doing anything that was completely mystifying or
Speaker 9: something that you wouldn't see from a defense prior. It's
Speaker 9: just that he was forcing balls to Justin Jefferson in
Speaker 9: the first half. It's like he's got a crutch and
Speaker 9: now he's just leaning on it. And it wasn't until
Speaker 9: the second half came that he realized, oh, I should
Speaker 9: go look somewhere else. So maybe you learn from this
Speaker 9: and you take that and you build upon it. But
Speaker 9: you know, mentioning that schedule, this is a perfect time
Speaker 9: for them to really seize upon it because the back
Speaker 9: half gets a little tough. Now you get Chicago twice
Speaker 9: over the next what five weeks, You get Tennessee. You
Speaker 9: got to win Tennessee and Chicago right away, because then
Speaker 9: you play Arizona, you got Atlanta, You get Chicago again,
Speaker 9: then you get Seattle, Green Bay, Detroit. You have to
Speaker 9: be able to win both Chicago games Tennessee and try
Speaker 9: to eque out against the Seahawks in order to get
Speaker 9: to eleven wins, because if you don't, if you drop
Speaker 9: a couple of those games, suddenly you find yourself in
Speaker 9: a position where the pressure is quickly on you.
Speaker 3: And at that point, I'm going.
Speaker 2: Is this this?
Speaker 9: Are they a fraudulent team like they were a few
Speaker 9: years ago when they were winning all those one possession games?
Speaker 3: Is this truly who they are?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: They have a better defense than they did at that time,
Speaker 3: at least in terms of scheme. So we'll see.
Speaker 9: But you cannot afford to put out another performance like
Speaker 9: you did today or you will lose games against better teams.
Speaker 3: It's that simple.
Speaker 1: It was very similar to their game last week. And
Speaker 1: look they're showing they can do it. You know, they
Speaker 1: they can win ugly games against bad teams.
Speaker 2: I think that's important one.
Speaker 4: I just I'm not saying we can win ugly games
Speaker 4: against bad teams, but.
Speaker 1: That's an important thing to do. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender. I don't think many people really
Speaker 1: do So what's a win for this season? It's getting
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and you hope maybe you can win
Speaker 1: that game, and so beating beating bad teams, they'll get
Speaker 1: to the playoffs if they continue to do that. Let's
Speaker 1: listen to Doug Peterson after the game, asked about that
Speaker 1: what happened on that final Mac interception?
Speaker 5: Was the play?
Speaker 4: What was supposed to happen on the final Mac interception
Speaker 4: if he didn't get hit and throw the pick. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to go through the details of the
Speaker 4: play because you guys wouldn't figure it out.
Speaker 13: But we'll go look at tape tomorrow and we'll make
Speaker 13: those corrections.
Speaker 5: He's pissed off, Angela what they do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you right.
Speaker 2: Figure it out.
Speaker 4: I just want to know, brain journalists, who is the
Speaker 4: room particularly upset Doug Peterson?
Speaker 5: And why am I catching as straight forward?
Speaker 2: Right? Jack?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Justice for John Shipley, one of the best beat writer.
Speaker 5: That was John's question.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know that, but I'm just saying he's
Speaker 1: out there. He's saying, y'all wouldn't understand John Shipley would understand?
Speaker 1: How about John Osher one of the longtime beat writers
Speaker 1: in the game. He works for the Jaguars as a
Speaker 1: senior writer there. He's great, so he would figure it out.
Speaker 1: I take offense to that, Doug Peterson. I also take
Speaker 1: offense uh to the Cowboys being the only national game
Speaker 1: at four twenty five, get this team out of national windows.
Speaker 7: Stack Hurts puts Calcaterra in motion, Hurts buck Hurts looking, Hurts,
Speaker 7: still looking, still looking.
Speaker 5: Hurts has started to run.
Speaker 3: Now he fires.
Speaker 2: Complete huts down.
Speaker 12: This time it goes to Johnny Wilson, has Hirst huts
Speaker 12: down in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Oh, Johnny Wilson, another guy that might have sent us
Speaker 1: to the search bar, like.
Speaker 2: Who's that tall eighty nine?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, literally the super tall rookie tight end that
Speaker 1: was Merril Reese on wip the Eagles in the ultimate
Speaker 1: take Care of Business game. Get a thirty four to
Speaker 1: six victory over the Cowboys. Jalen Hurts gets a couple
Speaker 1: of touchdown passes, gets a couple touchdown runs. He has
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns on the ground in the last four weeks.
Speaker 1: That's outrageous. Field The eights of ESPN pointed out there's
Speaker 1: only been fifteen seasons with that many rushing touchdowns from
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 2: He's done it in the last month.
Speaker 1: I hope you are listening everyone that is tuning in
Speaker 1: to the man versus model. Cynthia Freelan and I making
Speaker 1: our picks against the spread every week when we're on
Speaker 1: the same side of things, and we both say this
Speaker 1: is a no brainer. It's a no brainer. Eagles in
Speaker 1: the seven points. I mean, people were putting their their
Speaker 1: feet up and just enjoying this game. Twenty four points.
Speaker 1: They won by what twenty eight points? We also had
Speaker 1: it as our survivor pick, so good job.
Speaker 5: I usual, oyay, we did it.
Speaker 2: We keep getting it done another week. Looks this is
Speaker 2: the word.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the worst team in
Speaker 1: the NFL with Cooper Rush as the starting quarterback, but
Speaker 1: they're don't be in the mix shook, right.
Speaker 5: They gotta be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's ugly.
Speaker 9: First off, A lot of courage out of you to
Speaker 9: pick this game. Guys, good job we're trying.
Speaker 2: It's against the spread. They're all even.
Speaker 1: That's it's all even. That's why we said, wow, up
Speaker 1: surprise at seven. I would have thought it'd be thirteen
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 9: If I was there, I'd patch you on the back,
Speaker 9: but I can from two thousand miles away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this team's bad. Michael Barblos came back.
Speaker 2: I don't need to hear it from you.
Speaker 1: Suck three and oh this week six and oh the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks.
Speaker 9: I'm just gonna press you on people every week now
Speaker 9: now Sorry. Michael Parsons came back. He played about fifty
Speaker 9: three percent of the snaps. I believe made a difference.
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously he's an all world player, and he
Speaker 9: got in the way the Eagles offense in the first quarter,
Speaker 9: but eventually, well, his snapcunt was limited first off and secondly,
Speaker 9: the Eagles found a rhythm after they turned the ball
Speaker 9: over twice early and they went down the field, they
Speaker 9: scored a touchdown and it was a It was actually
Speaker 9: one of the best plays I've seen from Jalen hurtson
Speaker 9: probably a few weeks, where he evaded a free rusher,
Speaker 9: stepped up and found Dallas s Gottard in the end
Speaker 9: zone for a touchdown that preceded the Johnny Wilson touchdown.
Speaker 9: A guy that I didn't have to search for because
Speaker 9: he's the only six foot six receiver in this past
Speaker 9: draft class. So thatsclaimed to fame, and now he's finally
Speaker 9: got a touchdown in his career. And then we officially
Speaker 9: could put it to bed. When Jalen Hurts scrambled for
Speaker 9: eight yard touchdown run, it was over from there. Designed
Speaker 9: run got the job done, put the Cowboys to bed,
Speaker 9: put them to bed for the season. I don't care
Speaker 9: if Dak comes back or not. It's not worth it
Speaker 9: at this point. They have no talent offensively. Their offensive
Speaker 9: line has been a bit of a shuffling, you know,
Speaker 9: act recently, and their defense outside of Debarvin Overshown and
Speaker 9: Michael Parsons and Trayvon Diggs, they're just it's not a
Speaker 9: good football team in general. They're not exciting to watch.
Speaker 9: They were horrible offensively with Cooper Rush. They put Trey
Speaker 9: Lance in, didn't get anything better out of them. Cooper
Speaker 9: rush for forty five passing yards. Okay, Like, I don't
Speaker 9: care what defense you're playing. That's awful. That's just not
Speaker 9: good NFL football right there. So pretty easy game to
Speaker 9: explain there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can see it.
Speaker 4: The lack of velocity that Cooper rush has really jumped
Speaker 4: off the screen today, even more so than in his
Speaker 4: previous games. I'm not sure if he lost the lost
Speaker 4: a few mph off the fastball or what, but just
Speaker 4: a lot of hot air balloon balls that really didn't
Speaker 4: have the opportunity. His best throw at the day gets
Speaker 4: defended by our dearly neighborly star ninety three million miles away,
Speaker 4: sending photons in a span of eight minutes all the
Speaker 4: way into the eyes of CD Lamb where he's looking
Speaker 4: into this beam of sunlight, can do nothing with it.
Speaker 4: I also think it played on both sides because Jalen
Speaker 4: Hurts got a strip sack where he's looking into a
Speaker 4: secondary and I'm sure all he could see our is
Speaker 4: our friendly neighborhood star providing all the energy that we
Speaker 4: need here on this planet.
Speaker 5: Hopefully we keep the planet long enough, the sun's going
Speaker 5: to be our.
Speaker 4: But it's just truly just a disastrous performance by the
Speaker 4: Dallas Trade. Lance comes in and then comes back out.
Speaker 4: So we get a couple of worthless plays by Cooper Russia,
Speaker 4: including a fumble where it's what's going on and you know,
Speaker 4: the president and CEOs coming back and taking shots at
Speaker 4: folks asking him questions about this Stuy.
Speaker 5: It's a lot happened and none of it was good
Speaker 5: for Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Jerry Jones getting asked about the sun
Speaker 1: blinding Cede Lamb on that potential. Well, you know catch
Speaker 1: and Jerry said, quote, by the way, we know where
Speaker 1: the sun's going to be when we decide to flip
Speaker 1: the coin or not. We do know where the damn
Speaker 1: sun is going to be in our own stadium, which
Speaker 1: I read as they should have, you know, taken the
Speaker 1: side that wasn't going to have the sun at that time.
Speaker 1: He's blaming his coaching staff there for being on that site. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, you might not win the flip, and
Speaker 1: it's he's saying, we need to avoid taking the ball
Speaker 1: or not, you know, based on which side we want
Speaker 1: to be on, to avoid our own sun no matter what.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous, he said.
Speaker 1: They asked, well, why do not put up curtains over
Speaker 1: the windows, because they do do that for other events
Speaker 1: at that stadium, and he said, well, let's tear down
Speaker 1: the damn stadium and build another one. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Everyone's got the same thing. Every team has to come
Speaker 1: in here and they have the same issues. But yeah,
Speaker 1: not if you're happy to face that way. And then Finally,
Speaker 1: he said, the world knows where the sun is. You
Speaker 1: get to know that almost a year in advance. Someone
Speaker 1: asked me about even more, what about the sun? Where's
Speaker 1: the moon?
Speaker 3: Jared Doft didn't know. Hard knocks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good post. It's a very good So.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that the Bears average one point eight yards
Speaker 1: for passing play earlier today, which you almost never see.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys averaged one point five with all the sacks
Speaker 1: that they took. On one hand, I want to just
Speaker 1: blame everything on the Cowboys. On the other hand, this
Speaker 1: Eagles defense really is totally different. So I think the
Speaker 1: level of dominance is consistent with what this front has
Speaker 1: been doing lately, and that, to me, is the most
Speaker 1: encouraging things shook out of this season. Because hurts like
Speaker 1: he he took five sacks. I think in this game
Speaker 1: he was holding the ball forever. He actually had kind
Speaker 1: of an up and down firstaff They probably should have
Speaker 1: put it away even earlier. But man that their offensive
Speaker 1: line is awesome, and their defensive line in this young secondary,
Speaker 1: keeps playing better. I know that there's almost not too
Speaker 1: much you can even take away from playing the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: but I think this is a team that's building confidence.
Speaker 1: And again we have another week where now Nick Sirianni
Speaker 1: is not the main character.
Speaker 2: Again he did it.
Speaker 1: Nothing weird happened with Nick sirian Congratulations, congrats.
Speaker 9: You got to hang out in the background this week
Speaker 9: because it was that easy of a win. There was
Speaker 9: one sequence where the Eagles defense really shined to me,
Speaker 9: and it was when they decided to trade fumbles deep
Speaker 9: in Eagles territory. First, the Cowboys were on the goal line.
Speaker 9: Zeke fumbles it into the end zone. It's recovered. I
Speaker 9: think it was Cooper Dejina got it in the end zone,
Speaker 9: and then Jalen Hurts the strip sacked, and the Cowboys
Speaker 9: find themselves essentially in the same spot they were before,
Speaker 9: first and goal. Four plays, one yard settled for a
Speaker 9: field goal, Jalen Carter stuffing a run I think it
Speaker 9: was on second or third down, just waiting for Rico
Speaker 9: Dwell in the hole. Yeah, this defense is really coming together,
Speaker 9: and it's again the result of investment up front in
Speaker 9: the secondary, those kids are all kind of maturing at
Speaker 9: the same time, and Vic's doing a great job of
Speaker 9: organizing all and taking advantage of their strengths. Bryce Huff
Speaker 9: got a sacked today, like Bryce hoff did something all right,
Speaker 9: Like they're coming together. I'm super excited to watch this
Speaker 9: team because they've started to work out the kinks offensively
Speaker 9: when serirown, he's not the main character, they're really fun
Speaker 9: to watch and the defense is coming together. So like,
Speaker 9: this is a team that I see very much obviously
Speaker 9: contending for the NFC East, but also being a bit
Speaker 9: of a player in the playoffs. Yeahl conference where they're
Speaker 9: playing right now.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, okay, who's who's the team in
Speaker 1: the NFC. Yeah, right now, they're seven and two. They're
Speaker 1: one of the top two seeds in the NFC after
Speaker 1: ten weeks. That's a good place to be, not a
Speaker 1: good place to be this low in the order. And
Speaker 1: that's not the Eagles fault. That was me punishing you
Speaker 1: Cowboys for what you've become and for putting, you know,
Speaker 1: being in such big spots. The Thanksgiving Game is Cowboys Giants.
Speaker 1: That that's annoying. You got to get them out of
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football in week sixteen. So you know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't your fault, Philadelphia, but Dallas, we were putting you
Speaker 1: as deep into the rundown as possible. They were the
Speaker 1: final domestic game, but we wanted to save a really
Speaker 1: fun game in Germany for the last game before Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football.
Speaker 19: Gonni Hacker and Eddie Pinero going over the placement. The
Speaker 19: ball is on the right hash just inside the right
Speaker 19: hand officially at thirty six yarder for the win in Munich.
Speaker 19: Chance of Snappeckers hole Pinero's kick.
Speaker 2: And it is hey Eddie who lig it for the Panthers,
Speaker 2: and ot.
Speaker 1: That was any stroff of WRFX, Yes, Eddie Pinero. Twenty
Speaker 1: to seventeen. Panthers get a win in Munich. He blew
Speaker 1: the lead late. They thought Danny Diames was gonna do it,
Speaker 1: but a fumble by Tyrone Tracy on the first play
Speaker 1: from scrimmage in overtime, forced by trusty veteran Ashawn Robinson
Speaker 1: has had a nice career. People thought he was a
Speaker 1: bust in Detroit and he's bounced around help help the Rams.
Speaker 1: Now he's helping the Panthers win a game here. Twenty
Speaker 1: to seventeen. They get it done on NFL Network. It
Speaker 1: was close. We had back and forth scoring in the
Speaker 1: second half. Considering these two teams, I think it was
Speaker 1: all we could have asked for and one thing I
Speaker 1: enjoyed and I have a feeling you'll agree, Patrick is
Speaker 1: I think the Bryce Young rejuvenation is a thing. I
Speaker 1: think he's played better football over the last three weeks.
Speaker 4: He has, and even in because there were there were
Speaker 4: the ten incompletions that he had today, one a late
Speaker 4: third down where I feel like the Giants got away
Speaker 4: on a hold on a wheelwout that could have been
Speaker 4: a first down. Cooker had a dropped ball in the
Speaker 4: end zone that was beautifully thrown on a fade. Bryce
Speaker 4: stepping away from pressure, stepped up on the touchdown pass
Speaker 4: to Newton earlier in the game, where you know the
Speaker 4: pressure is coming. In early season, Bryce maybe doesn't get
Speaker 4: to that point in the read, maybe the rush gets
Speaker 4: to him, but he gets through there. The Panthers as
Speaker 4: a team looked better. But I think it allows us
Speaker 4: to get a better evaluation of Bryce Young, who shows
Speaker 4: the things that got him drafted number one overall in
Speaker 4: the first place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his misses in the last few weeks, really all
Speaker 1: three weeks, I've understood them all, Like all the decisions
Speaker 1: now he's forced it in a couple but that's okay.
Speaker 1: If he's being a little over aggressive like his misses today,
Speaker 1: we're all close to decisions were good. They trusted him
Speaker 1: for a big third and eight late in the game
Speaker 1: that you thought was gonna ice it, and he has
Speaker 1: a money throw on the sideline that was to Cocher.
Speaker 1: Did you mention that or that was the league? And
Speaker 1: I thought that ends up, you know, icing the game.
Speaker 1: But he went out of bounds there. It's always a
Speaker 1: catch twenty two. You got to get the first down.
Speaker 1: But he goes out of bounds there. And then the
Speaker 1: clock stops a few more times with Giants timeouts, and
Speaker 1: then Tubbahrbard drops a swing pass that probably wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: be a first down, but at least would have run
Speaker 1: the clock down a little bit, and so it gave
Speaker 1: Danny Dimes a chance to send the Giants to overtime.
Speaker 1: Nick after just a dispiriting day watching Danny Dimes, and
Speaker 1: he does what Danny Dimes does, which is after having
Speaker 1: so many bad moments, he actually has a really nice
Speaker 1: two minute drive and I'm thinking, oh, they're gonna win
Speaker 1: this game, and then they're gonna be in between again,
Speaker 1: not knowing what to do about Dimes and then they
Speaker 1: end up losing through no fault of his own. But
Speaker 1: that was really the only just about the only highlight
Speaker 1: from him at the end, where he did conduct a
Speaker 1: good two minute drive to get the tie at the
Speaker 1: end of regulation.
Speaker 9: Yeah, sometimes in football things don't go your way, but
Speaker 9: it ends up working out for the best because you
Speaker 9: can assign blame elsewhere, or maybe you just you know,
Speaker 9: avoid winning games that make you think twice about keeping
Speaker 9: somebody or proceeding forward with somebody into future seasons. And
Speaker 9: I feel like this is one of those games because
Speaker 9: it's the Panthers, right, the same team that beat the
Speaker 9: Saints and forced them to fire their coach. It's it's
Speaker 9: a low level loss, like it's it's one that you
Speaker 9: have a hard time explaining. But that's been Dimes for
Speaker 9: most of this year. Like he was a guy who
Speaker 9: was good between the twenties. First stretch of this season,
Speaker 9: He's had some good games. He's also just been wildly inconsistent.
Speaker 9: And that was kind of You got the full experience,
Speaker 9: minus like a million fumbles from him today.
Speaker 3: So this is what I've come to expect from the Giants.
Speaker 9: Tyrone Tracy had a good day until he fumbled away
Speaker 9: possession in overtime. The fact that they got to overtime
Speaker 9: I thought was impressive considering the way that the game
Speaker 9: was going. But I was, you know, to kind of
Speaker 9: serve go all the way back to Bryce Young. That
Speaker 9: was what stood out to me the most. Like, and
Speaker 9: he's been on this path for a few weeks now, guys,
Speaker 9: you know, it's got to the point where last week
Speaker 9: I wrote in QB Index he deserves to continue playing
Speaker 9: like there's no use in putting Andy Dalton back in.
Speaker 9: He had to throw early in this game. It was
Speaker 9: the top of my notes where I just said, he
Speaker 9: made a really nice, like off platform throw. He's in
Speaker 9: the pocket, he's moving left and he sees a guy
Speaker 9: crossing over the middle of the field and.
Speaker 3: Rips it wide open. I mean, great throw, right on target.
Speaker 9: Did it again later with a touch pass over the
Speaker 9: middle of the over routes have really been somewhere that
Speaker 9: he's found a lot of success. I love what I'm
Speaker 9: seeing from him. He's got confidence now. He didn't have
Speaker 9: any last year or in the first two weeks of
Speaker 9: this season. He's starting to build it now. They might
Speaker 9: be able to reclaim this and then get on a
Speaker 9: path forward and not worry about quarterback anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to overpraise him like as almost
Speaker 1: like a backhanded compliment. He's just built up the last
Speaker 1: three weeks consistent performances that look like an NFL quarterback,
Speaker 1: like an NFL start, and that that's a big change,
Speaker 1: and so it makes you excited for what they could have,
Speaker 1: Like they still have a lot more to see, but
Speaker 1: it's been really incouraging. That's like, Okay, here's a dude
Speaker 1: that's an NFL quarterback. How can we figure out everything
Speaker 1: around him? They gave Chuba Harvard a nice contract this week.
Speaker 1: He was breaking tackles all over the place. He had
Speaker 1: a costly fumble in this game too, but ends up
Speaker 1: with one hundred and fifty three yards and a touchdown
Speaker 1: on the ground. And yeah, like the decision making on
Speaker 1: the Dimes interception, there was just a couple of plays
Speaker 1: that I think is why he's going to get bench
Speaker 1: during their bye week. After the game, Brian Dable was
Speaker 1: asked if he was still going to be the quarterback.
Speaker 2: And he said, we'll evaluate it.
Speaker 1: And usually, as if said on this podcast so many
Speaker 1: times when they say we're evaluating it. It means the quarterback
Speaker 1: is going to be changed, because in the past he's
Speaker 1: always said he's our quarterback, and I think he'll look
Speaker 1: back to a couple decisions. There was a flea flicker
Speaker 1: in the first half where Wandel Robbinson's just wide ass open.
Speaker 1: It's on a three third and one, and just Dimes
Speaker 1: just doesn't throw it, and there's just been a lot
Speaker 1: of and then there was the interception late in the
Speaker 1: game where again Kurt Warner I think was getting frustrated
Speaker 1: watching this, like they're in the red zone, they're trying
Speaker 1: to catch up. They're down by three, I believe at
Speaker 1: that point in the fourth quarter, and the read is
Speaker 1: the slant he's thrown on third down in the flat
Speaker 1: to a guy that has no chance to score. And
Speaker 1: not only was it a bad decision, but it was inaccurate,
Speaker 1: so it's behind the receiver and then it pops up
Speaker 1: in the air for an interception. So it was like
Speaker 1: every Dimes thing combined bad decision, like not seeing the
Speaker 1: field well and also just bad luck. Frankly, like it's
Speaker 1: like it's also just bad, Like he's had a lot
Speaker 1: of bad luck. It's enough it's not even about the
Speaker 1: injury guaranteed that he has. I think when they go
Speaker 1: into the by they will at some point announce that
Speaker 1: Drew Locke is the starting quarterback, and yeah, they might
Speaker 1: as well give Lock a chance. Maybe it'll be Tommy DeVito,
Speaker 1: who knows the Bears. I'm the Panthers rather get a win.
Speaker 1: Three wins on the season for the Panthers. Suddenly they're
Speaker 1: on a winning streak.
Speaker 4: Yeah, first ever with Bryce Young as the start. We
Speaker 4: go back to back wins. So congratulations of the Panthers
Speaker 4: and to Bryce Young. But yeah, just a brutal Dimes
Speaker 4: performance where it's not just the catastrophic plays because the
Speaker 4: ball goes off well, first of all, just Davian Clownbey,
Speaker 4: you know, the six foot four inch long arm right
Speaker 4: in the face. It's not like JD got a hand
Speaker 4: on it. He hit it directly in the face while
Speaker 4: jumping to make a play. It's not just those, just
Speaker 4: the scattershot accuracy because the Doom's turnovers can happen, but
Speaker 4: just ball placement has been wayward all season long. They
Speaker 4: come into this game against the Carolina Panthers defense that
Speaker 4: hasn't stopped anybody on the run at a historic pace
Speaker 4: and they end up throwing the ball thirty seven times
Speaker 4: with Jones trying to get I guess something going with
Speaker 4: the offense.
Speaker 1: He had his chance, right, They had like a ninety
Speaker 1: six year touchdown driving there. They have things to like,
Speaker 1: like Malik Neighbors is a real player. Theo Johnson keeps playing.
Speaker 1: He's a real player. And you want the bright side though,
Speaker 1: electric right side is with the win, Carolina dropped to
Speaker 1: tenth in the Tankathon draft order, and what the Giants
Speaker 1: are number two right now?
Speaker 2: Now, we got a long way to go. There are
Speaker 2: so many teams.
Speaker 1: Eleven teams have either two or three loss two wins
Speaker 1: right now, so more than a third in the league
Speaker 1: has either two or three wins. So there's a long
Speaker 1: way to go. But this could be a big one
Speaker 1: for the Giants, maybe getting their future quarterback. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Sunday Night football, the Lions and the Texans, two
Speaker 1: teams that they don't need a quarterback.
Speaker 11: From fifty two yards out, hashmark left side.
Speaker 5: Baits was good from fifty eight to tie the game.
Speaker 14: Can he send it through from here to send the
Speaker 14: Lions home with a victory.
Speaker 2: There's the snap spot kick away, it is up and
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 5: Gode Hey got it. We're gonna front home on the
Speaker 5: wings of kick baked pud back.
Speaker 11: Good from fifty eight, Good from fifty two cutting out
Speaker 11: for the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: That was Dan Miller and Lomas Brown from wx YT.
Speaker 1: If it's Sunday, it's Dan Miller having a good time
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily of Victory.
Speaker 2: You didn't see.
Speaker 1: Coming at halftime when it was twenty three to seven Texans,
Speaker 1: but the Lions come all the way back to win
Speaker 1: it in the fourth quarter. A touchdown to Amon Ross
Speaker 1: Say Brown at the beginning of the quarter, a fifty
Speaker 1: eight yarder for Baits with five minutes to go, and yes,
Speaker 1: the buzzer beater to send us home. Just a little earlier,
Speaker 1: Nick shook, although you're you're already at home. What a
Speaker 1: game between the Lions and the Texas. It was crazy,
Speaker 1: It was sloppy, But I guess if you can't beat
Speaker 1: the Lions when you pick off Jared Goff five times,
Speaker 1: you just can't beat the Lions.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean anytime you win the turnover margin five
Speaker 9: to two and you managed to go scoreless in the
Speaker 9: second half, I mean, there's there was multiple instances.
Speaker 3: Really, the turning point the game was CJ.
Speaker 9: Stroud having a wide open tank down on the end
Speaker 9: zone and slightly under throwing it almost because he was
Speaker 9: so panicked because Dell was so wide open that he
Speaker 9: left a little bit too much air out of the ball.
Speaker 9: That was the turning point. And then it just started
Speaker 9: an avalanche of points for the Lions. You're right, if
Speaker 9: you turn them over five times and don't beat them,
Speaker 9: then you can't beat them. Even if some of those
Speaker 9: picks by Jared Goff were unfortunate outcomes, not necessarily his mistakes.
Speaker 9: What a crazy game, right, Even the field goals they
Speaker 9: got by by about I don't know. If you plug
Speaker 9: three of my eyelashes and stacked them up together right
Speaker 9: here on the inside of the goalpost, that's about the
Speaker 9: margin for air on those kicks.
Speaker 3: R Yet he drilled knock them through.
Speaker 1: I mean, Collinsworth got us halfway there, compared it to Raftery.
Speaker 1: But he's got to do the impression. He's like with
Speaker 1: the kiss, you know, he's got to do the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And then he did it on the right side too.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The last one maybe didn't quite nudge the goal post,
Speaker 1: but it just got in there.
Speaker 2: What a story.
Speaker 1: First of all, Jake Bates again NFL Daily July, shout
Speaker 1: out this UFL kid who yes, he was laying bricks
Speaker 1: in Houston at some point, and then he gets back
Speaker 1: into kicking. He was a soccer player and to be
Speaker 1: taken from the UFL to where he's built up now
Speaker 1: and hitting nails kicks. Look, the Texans did a lot
Speaker 1: of right things in this game, and ultimately you can
Speaker 1: look at it, like the officials I think missed a
Speaker 1: pretty clear PI on a third and four that would
Speaker 1: have gotten their field position even better, would have given
Speaker 1: them a first down to run down the clock and
Speaker 1: try to get closer with about a minute forty left,
Speaker 1: they don't call the PI. Terry Arnold leaves the game
Speaker 1: and they go for the long fair bearon kick. He
Speaker 1: misses it. So one guy misses the long kick, the
Speaker 1: other guy doesn't make it. But I do look and
Speaker 1: you can look at it. That's the difference in the game,
Speaker 1: and I understand being upset there. But in the second
Speaker 1: half they had seven turnovers, I mean seven possessions. The
Speaker 1: first play of the second half was an interception by Stroud,
Speaker 1: great play by car to Davis. You mentioned the other
Speaker 1: one that he had, which was an absolute turning point,
Speaker 1: but they also had five other possessions where they just
Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball. All the problems that have been
Speaker 1: happening that were gone in the first half that CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud overcame in a really fantastic performance for thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: We're back where the offensive line couldn't protect their running
Speaker 1: game wasn't there the whole night. And I give the
Speaker 1: Lions defense a ton of credit in this game. They
Speaker 1: sneaky had an amazing performance because Brian Branch was making plays,
Speaker 1: Kirby Joseph was making plays in the first half, and
Speaker 1: I actually thought a lot of the plays that Stroud
Speaker 1: made to Metchi that last touchdown he had before the
Speaker 1: end of the half, some of the throws to Schultz,
Speaker 1: one to Tank Dell, those were just outstanding football plays
Speaker 1: that you give more credit to the quarterback than you
Speaker 1: take away from the defense. And the pressure was there
Speaker 1: throughout the game. They ended up being fourth in the
Speaker 1: entire NFL NICK this week in success rate in terms
Speaker 1: of defense, so they really show Houston's offense down pretty
Speaker 1: consistently in this game and they get out of there
Speaker 1: in a win, and just I know, Dan Campbell's gonna
Speaker 1: love this being able to win different types of games.
Speaker 2: That's what great teams do.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know the Lions were on the ropes. I
Speaker 9: mean you looked at the score and it was twenty
Speaker 9: three to seven. You thought, where is this Lion's team?
Speaker 9: I thought the score would be twenty three to seven
Speaker 9: in favor of the Lions, not the Texans, considering all
Speaker 9: the problems that the Texans have dealt with in recent weeks.
Speaker 3: And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 9: The passing protection really broke down the second half, and
Speaker 9: a lot of credit is due to that Detroit defense.
Speaker 9: There was that one play in particular where James Houston
Speaker 9: just speeds around Larryman Tunsel and he completely whiffs on it.
Speaker 9: I laughed like I giggled as I watched the replay,
Speaker 9: just because it shows the speed off the edge and
Speaker 9: how a guy when he reaches out and tries to
Speaker 9: extend and whiffs, how it can destroy a play. I
Speaker 9: think it was on that same play that Titus Howard
Speaker 9: tried to take the ball out of CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud's hands.
Speaker 2: What is happening? What is happening that should count as fall.
Speaker 9: And it illustrates the breakdown that was this I half
Speaker 9: for the Texans, who moved the ball a little bit
Speaker 9: and then they just stopped and a little bit and
Speaker 9: then just stopped. What a performance, but a gutsy performance
Speaker 9: for the Lions where everything was going against them. They
Speaker 9: were not playing like themselves, and then they found themselves
Speaker 9: in the second half. They were able to create the turnovers.
Speaker 9: They were able to shake off their own turnovers because
Speaker 9: Jared Goff, you don't get to five interceptions without turning
Speaker 9: over a little bit in the second half too, which
Speaker 9: he did.
Speaker 3: And honestly, I think his last.
Speaker 9: Two picks were his worst two picks because one was
Speaker 9: an anticipatory throw to San La Portal that was never open,
Speaker 9: and the other one was a great defensive play but
Speaker 9: also a ball that you probably shouldn't throw down in
Speaker 9: the deep third there. So they were able to overcome
Speaker 9: all of that. That is the mark of a winner.
Speaker 9: That is the mark of a team that has been
Speaker 9: through the fire like they were in the playoffs last year,
Speaker 9: and it's a very encouraging sign for one of the
Speaker 9: best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's a heartbreaking loss for the Texans. I think you
Speaker 1: just put it so well that these two teams are
Speaker 1: two of that cool, hot, like rising exciting organizations teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and they're at different stages of their development.
Speaker 1: And the Texans were so close to having a six
Speaker 1: Nichure win tonight, so I don't want that to get
Speaker 1: lost in what happened. Because their defense was flying all
Speaker 1: over the place in the first half. Petrie was awesome.
Speaker 1: They had injuries. Kamari Lassiter with some friendly fire, leaves
Speaker 1: the game. In the second half, they lose Fatakasi, so
Speaker 1: they lose a couple of pieces. Will Anderson didn't even
Speaker 1: play in this game, and they really pressure Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: His pressure numbers for most of the game were just awful.
Speaker 1: The success rate on Detroit's runs were so bad going
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter, and they're still pretty bad, but
Speaker 1: they finally got a running game going in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: so they were so close. They did a lot of
Speaker 1: really good things. I actually think this was the best
Speaker 1: Texans game that they've played in a wild They came
Speaker 1: out angry, they played really physical after that Jets game,
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing some like fraud watch with the Texans,
Speaker 1: and I get that. Actually, I think to this point
Speaker 1: in the season they have not been as good as
Speaker 1: their record. I actually do take positives out of tonight.
Speaker 1: I think was more composed in the pocket for the
Speaker 1: most part. The fact it all fell apart is still
Speaker 1: concerning the fact they don't have a running game and
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, they're not real super super super Bowl contenders,
Speaker 1: but I do think they have a toughness. I think
Speaker 1: they have a defense, and I think they have a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And when they get Nico Collins back and Will Anderson
Speaker 1: on the field, I do think they have things. I
Speaker 1: actually think this was the most encouraging game by the
Speaker 1: Texans in a while, maybe since the very beginning of
Speaker 1: the season, and that the Detroit Lions are just they're
Speaker 1: just those dudes.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: They had individual.
Speaker 1: Players Gibbs Laporta that made great individual plays, branch as
Speaker 1: a Defensive Player of the Year candidate. A great call
Speaker 1: by Ben Johnson on a third and nine, like like
Speaker 1: when they were facing on their own zone, like where
Speaker 1: they got it to get.
Speaker 2: To that play, like they were in trouble there.
Speaker 1: There were so many little moments where they were in
Speaker 1: such big trouble and so that's my long winded flowers
Speaker 1: to the Texans fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not feeling too good right now.
Speaker 3: Glad.
Speaker 9: I'm glad you mentioned that Gibbs play because it was
Speaker 9: a beautiful example of Ben Jonson getting creative and getting
Speaker 9: a guy open when you know you're the situation's kind
Speaker 9: of stacked against you. He pulls Pennay Sewell out on
Speaker 9: the right side with a great little you know, he
Speaker 9: sheds the rusher and says, all right, go after him.
Speaker 9: It's kind of like a screen action that you would
Speaker 9: get as an offensive lineman gets out in front, perfect
Speaker 9: swing pass to Gibbs, He gets down the field. They
Speaker 9: go from inside their own ten to near the forty
Speaker 9: yard line, and that jump starts a drive that was,
Speaker 9: you know, obviously crucial for them. That's what the Lions
Speaker 9: do well. They get creative in spots and usually it
Speaker 9: works out for them. The startling fact was that it
Speaker 9: wasn't working out for them for two quarters, which is,
Speaker 9: you know, a credit to the Texans. I think that
Speaker 9: this despite the loss, and you know, you can say
Speaker 9: whether there are moral victories or not there or not,
Speaker 9: because this could be a crushing loss for a worse team.
Speaker 9: But I think that The Texans are built to rebound
Speaker 9: from this because of what you just said about their defense.
Speaker 9: They also get Dallas, Tennessee and Jacksonville's the next three
Speaker 9: and a really late eye. So I think it's going
Speaker 9: to set up really well for them where they can
Speaker 9: go on a bit of a run before they go
Speaker 9: into that final month, which is tough Miami, Kansas City,
Speaker 9: Baltimore and Tennessee again. But you're coming out of the
Speaker 9: by As long as you can stay healthy, you get
Speaker 9: Collins back, I think you'll be okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they their defense played more than well enough to
Speaker 1: win one of the better games of the season by
Speaker 1: a defense that touchdown field goal field goal. That's tough
Speaker 1: stuff in the fourth quarter to give up. But that
Speaker 1: was the twelfth, thirteenth and fourteenth possessions the Lions had
Speaker 1: in the game.
Speaker 2: They turned them over five times.
Speaker 1: The game should have been over by then, and the
Speaker 1: Texans offense they just couldn't hold up their end of
Speaker 1: the bargain. Wow, what a fun way and a fun
Speaker 1: week ten. We will be back on Monday night. Bridget
Speaker 1: Condon coming into the Chris Westling podcast studio.
Speaker 2: I'm doing the Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: If you're watching over in the UK, so she's going
Speaker 1: to come up with me and Nick has a night
Speaker 1: in the podcast off. Thank you Nick for an outstanding
Speaker 1: performance on this recap.
Speaker 2: And yeah, when the Lions are.
Speaker 1: The best team in the NFL, you know football is
Speaker 1: back back in the nineteen fifties or something. I don't
Speaker 1: care if I went too long.